That Valkyrie vs Hela shot still blows my mind. Need to get a full wall frame of that scene.
@RigoOXx2 жыл бұрын
For real man
@DinoNuggies3332 жыл бұрын
Loki’s face when Odin says “I love you my sons” always gets me
@cgxrabbit10332 жыл бұрын
My fav is , Your Savior Is Here
@colleenross87522 жыл бұрын
Cause he knew Odin meant it
@SethXB5 ай бұрын
my fav is "I am your rekoning" because it just sounds so good and badass when Ragnarok was reborn at the end.
@39Hundred2 жыл бұрын
The Grandmaster is the brother of The Collector. They are part of a group called The Elders Of The Universe. I like how Marvel selected odd, awkward, kooky actors to portray them. If they ever introduced more, I hope they hire other strange actors like Crispin Glover, Aubrey Plaza, Gary Busey and Nicholas Cage lol.
@LuxRoyale2 жыл бұрын
I believe they're also the only surviving race from before the creation of humans, eternals, and deviants so they're incredibly old/immortal.
@TheRedPeril2 жыл бұрын
Probably the gayest sentence ever and Nic Cage would be the WORST choice of actor. Actually that would be Gary Busey on reflection. Jeeeez.
@jeambeam31732 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedPeril you must be fun at parties
@jeambeam31732 жыл бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 it seems like something they did on purpose and also comics and the movies have similarities you act like there as separate at DC is to marvel
@jeambeam31732 жыл бұрын
@@TheRedPeril like the whole point is picking actors who act cookey and Nic Cage is a good actor he just doesn't care how good the script is for said movies so just does whatever for the money which he is in his right too
@r.h.62492 жыл бұрын
Cate Balnchett's Hela might be one of the most enjoyable villains in MCU...you can tell her she is having the most fun while playing this villain...i loved seeing her in this role
@paulmahon16132 жыл бұрын
Cate was smoking hot in this. Man, best looking villain eveer.
@colleenross87522 жыл бұрын
Best female villain in the MCU so far
@blueberrydenim48072 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised how little she’s laughing, I thought the movie was hilarious from start to finish
@brianvalencia77172 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the humor was a little overbearing at times & not enough pacing through the film.
@BigJoe66692 жыл бұрын
@@brianvalencia7717 i always tought it was cheap and childish humor so did my wife she tought it was meh at best
@44.caliberbrainsurgery632 жыл бұрын
It’s really not that funny
@Caseytify2 жыл бұрын
Well, _I_ liked it. ;)
@BigJoe66692 жыл бұрын
@@Caseytify and it's quite alright friend glad you liked it ! 👍
@sirjohnmara2 жыл бұрын
4:25 I can't believe that so few people noticed Matt Damon as "fake" Loki in the "play". Sam Neill as "fake" Odin and Luke Hemsworth as "fake" Thor.
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
Most reactors aren't movie buffs so don't know actors very well
@sirjohnmara2 жыл бұрын
@@Diegesis Yes, I get that. I ment in general - not you specifically. They tried a lot more humor in this one... I hope they keep that up in Thor 4.
@DAGGETT0628912 жыл бұрын
But its Matt Damon. He's pretty recognizable.
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
If you've seen Matt Damon films.
@phenomenonk12 жыл бұрын
Matt damon also is in deadpool 2🤣
@shainewhite27812 жыл бұрын
My favorite line in the movie was, "We know each other! He's a friend from work!"
@frenchynoob2 жыл бұрын
Thats kinda weird, so many fun quotes and you choose that one? Okay...
@1do42 жыл бұрын
the funny thing it was suggested by a kid at the set
@daking9122 жыл бұрын
@@frenchynoob well that quote was improvised by a make a wish kid who wanted that line to be in the movie
@Will-nn6ux2 жыл бұрын
@@frenchynoob It's a really funny line! Just the fact that he is able to accurately describe the Incredible Hulk as 'a friend from work'.
@beetlebob46752 жыл бұрын
That's one of my top favorites, too. 🤣
@55titles122 жыл бұрын
Cate Blanchett steals the show for me in this movie she's hamming it up clearly enjoying herself and its great she's so good 😅 Jeff Goldblum is also really good 🙂
@rivervixens062 жыл бұрын
She’s hot n badass and i wish they didn’t kill her after one appearance like they did Pietro
@solid.john472 жыл бұрын
She's the best thing in the movie for me, because I didn't like this movie at all.
@beetlebob46752 жыл бұрын
I watched this for Evil Galadriel. 😍 lol i ended up loving the whole movie "...over all others..." She said that in the same tone as she said it in the intro for Fellowship. I nerded out satisfactorily. 😆
@mizrolist2 жыл бұрын
@@rivervixens06 I'm not sure Hela is dead...
@55titles122 жыл бұрын
@@mizrolist Naa she's dead you can see her get obliterated by Surtur's sword when he stabs the ground
@colleenross8752 Жыл бұрын
Odin dies in Tonsberg, Norway, where he first fought the Frost Giants and adopted Loki, and where Red Skull found the Tesseract.
@JBPVFL2 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite marvel movies to date. Love the humor, action, and everyone involved in it. Actors and actresses seemed to have a lot of fun while making it
@oneandzero62512 жыл бұрын
Also feel it is my favorite. Went to the cinema with my dad and he loved it. Not often I have heard him laugh and be as excited during a movie.
@dylancole19102 жыл бұрын
Man I love this movie. Loki’s reaction to Hulk was priceless. It’s funny how Bruce was just as uneased by Loki as Loki was of the Hulk. Also Mark and Chris’ chemistry was out the roof with this movie. 😄
@shainewhite27812 жыл бұрын
The opening is pretty badass! Love how Thor uses Mjolnir to fight off the demons, while the background music has Led Zeppelin Immigrant Song!
@chrisbiebel62052 жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioning Lord of the Rings considering you had Galadriel (Kate Blanchett) as Hela and Eomer (Karl Urban) as Skurge/The Executioner in this movie.
@kratoscallofduty2 жыл бұрын
In the 'play', Thor was played by Chris Helmworth's brother and Loki was played by Matt Damon. I found it interesting that Hela is Thor's sister...but she looks a lot like Loki. As for the "we know each other....he's a friend from work" line, that was suggested by a fan and the director decided to put it in the film. Very cool.
@Caseytify2 жыл бұрын
In the original mythology, Hela was the daughter of Loki, who also fathered Fenris and the World Serpent.
@iceman_894202 жыл бұрын
And Odin is played by Sam Neil
@MrNorthz2 жыл бұрын
We don't care
@mauricecupido33252 жыл бұрын
”oh my God. The hammer pulled you off”. Most underrated joke in this movie 🤣🤣😂
@somebodythatyouusedtoknow91262 жыл бұрын
Is that a guitar joke?
@jeffthompson96222 жыл бұрын
In Norse Mythology Hela was one of Loki's children, along with the Fenris wolf, Jormangandr, the Midgard serpent, and Sleipnir, Odin's eight legged horse. I recall that during Ragnarok Fenris kills Odin. Jormangandr and Thor kill each other
@Caseytify2 жыл бұрын
Sleipnir too?
@jeffthompson96222 жыл бұрын
@@CaseytifyIf I remember correctly, Loki transformed himself into a mare and is actually the mother of Sleipnir.
@MarvRoberts2 жыл бұрын
The 'Get help' line was improv. Hemsworth said it and Hiddleston stayed in character and went with it.
@nickthepeasant2 жыл бұрын
This and the Avengers movies that follow are the high water mark for the MCU - this one is a lighter, genuinely funny palate cleanse before the emotion and turmoil in Infinity War and EndGame. (And Immigrant Sing bookending this is so satisfying, never gets old).
@rkstevenson54482 жыл бұрын
I love that the auto-generated captions think Maple is saying "diet Jesus."
@SubterrelProspector2 жыл бұрын
The most humdrum reaction to Jeff Goldblum I've ever seen. Lol he's a legend.
@estoy10012 жыл бұрын
"He's so dramatic." Actually, the cape is dramatic- like most capes.
@athena92602 жыл бұрын
cloak* lmao
@jeffthompson96222 жыл бұрын
Good point about ammo capacity. The magazine in each M-16 looked like a 20 rounder.
@cybergeek112352 жыл бұрын
rule of cool
@Caseytify2 жыл бұрын
Magic ammo; it's Asgard. ;) I've read elsewhere that there were two Dallas football players actually called Des and Troy. In the scene Walt Simonson originally scripted in the comic (nothing to do with Ragnarok) the issue of ammo was addressed. Skurge was around for a long time in the Thor comic. He was the sidekick to The Enchantress, who was not nearly the evil psycho Hela played here. Come to that, Hela in the comic wasn't an evil psycho. {shrug} The MCU changes things from the comics. This is my surprised face.
@jeffthompson96222 жыл бұрын
@@Caseytify Yes, the MCU made Skurge a harmless goof, although his redemption at the end was interesting. It ignored Amora and Balder, and threw away the warriors three.
@jeffthompson96222 жыл бұрын
Taika Waititi the director, voices Korg. Korg's physical design is based on the alien invaders of Earth featured in the first Thor story in Marvel comics.
@Val1Zod2 жыл бұрын
Actually in the comics Hela is Loki’s Daughter.
@spyling8002 жыл бұрын
Also in, you know, mythology. She is the daughter of Loki and the sister fo Fenris and Jormungandr the midgard serpent
@damon61262 жыл бұрын
@@spyling800 And Ragnarok came about by the death of Baldur the Brave. :D
@VergilArcanis2 жыл бұрын
when Hela fights the Asguardian army, there was one soldier who managed to get a hit on her. props to that dude in particular
@rimasmuliolis11362 жыл бұрын
How is it that anyone in an interplanetary movie can steal any ship and get across the galaxy but I spend 20 minutes looking for the windshield wipers in a rental car?
@jackson8572 жыл бұрын
Someone forgot the post credits scene from Thor the Dark World. 7:24 Didn't laugh at my favourite joke in the MCU. Did nobody tell you this was a comedy before watching? I probably use "I have been falling for 30 minutes" at least once a week in my daily life. This movie was the best theatre experience. The whole cinema couldn't stop laughing. The MCU's funniest movie and out of all the reactions I've seen to this movie, probably the least laughs.
@Caseytify2 жыл бұрын
They made a sideways reference to that in Spider-Man: No Way Home.
@tidjydesiree85862 жыл бұрын
@@Caseytify what?? When?
@dezo3432 жыл бұрын
Maples face the first few moments Cate Blanchette is on screen is me realizing I'm bisexual the first time seeing Michelle Pfeiffer in Batman Returns when I was 15 lol.
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
Haha
@TheGrunaldi2 жыл бұрын
0:12 every time my brain hears :"Diet Jesus "
@yobogoya43672 жыл бұрын
"Hey man, my name is Korg, I'm made of rocks, this is Meek, he's made of scissors, you've got nothing to fear unless you're made of paper; that's a rock, paper, scissors joke." He was my favorite character of this movie 😂 "Goodbye, New Doug."
@paulmahon16132 жыл бұрын
And as the voice of Surtur... Eugene Krabs (Clancy Brown)
@Dannydarko27 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the funniest film in the MCU, with some great character development for Thor and Loki
@_subzero_39412 жыл бұрын
missed matt damon...can´t believe it
@Mirikal2 жыл бұрын
"That dog is freaking me out." Oh, imagine if you knew the stories!
@martywittenberg14272 жыл бұрын
The funniest part of this movie is that Loki left the allfather Odin at a old mans home LMFAO. And to think that destroyed hammer now somehow ended up in the hands of Thors old flame. I'm dying to know how that happened.
@Brooke-rw8rc2 жыл бұрын
Something a lot of people don't pick up on is HOW LONG the Hulk was on Sakaar. Two years? No. Grandmaster: "Time works differently on Sakaar. Anywhere else in the universe, I'd be millions of years old, but here on Sakaar... *extreme discretion as he is billions of years old*" Loki, who was knocked out of the Bifrost about 10 seconds before Thor was: "I've been here for weeks!" So seconds in the rest of the universe can be weeks on Sakaar. The Hulk flew off in Age of Ultron two years ago in Earth time. Who knows how long he was on Sakaar. He was there long enough to train with Valkyrie enough that he managed to beat out Beta Ray Bill as the Champion, and Bill can trounce Thor, so... (And we know Hulk becoming Champion was recent because they weren't finished building his face on the side of the building when we first arrive on Sakaar.)
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
Astute point
@paulanderson7712 жыл бұрын
Your face is so photogenic..i love it. This is a fun movie!!!
@Twigpi2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reactions! Loved the Odin pep talk moment. That was a such a great smile. Yeah, there is a lot of weird humor in this one. I think they felt more comfortable making jokes. I saw this one in theaters and braced myself the whole time because I knew what Ragnorak is. And I agree, Thor is really cool 😎
@ddox20102 жыл бұрын
Feel like that was one of the weirder reactions to this movie Ive seen. Was confusion to the humor. Expectation. Bet Maple will def like it more on a rewatch
@MapleDivine2 жыл бұрын
I really like this movie but the humor did throw me off a little because Thor has been so serious in all other movies until this one. I was just digesting the new tone they gave Thor.
@ddox20102 жыл бұрын
@@MapleDivine Yeah sorry. Just getting into the discussion...and you loved it! Lol great
@jayanthkumar79642 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Maple comes into the movie without watching any promos, trailers, or any context at all. Her reaction is the purest emotions you'll get.
@ddox20102 жыл бұрын
@@jayanthkumar7964 Yup, wasnt trying to hate, Maples great. Movie was a bit of a swerve lol
@wesley.peterson2 жыл бұрын
the Humor is 100% New Zealand Humor.. You either get it or you don't I guess. The director Taika Waititi really made it in his own way and gives Thor a new purpose and gives the character more life! Much more relatable than some pomp God.
@Yahweh-Chase-Bella2 жыл бұрын
I just came across this channel today find it genuinely entertaining never thought watching someone's reaction to movies would be lol. First one was the Matrix now this. I am curious what Diegesis mean or come from
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
A story or narrative especially in relationship to a film
@jerryward33112 жыл бұрын
Have to laugh when Maple says Hell yeah! While they are literally fighting Hel. 😄
@zzzkoszzz2 жыл бұрын
The Grandmaster won. He always wins. Its always his game. "I Just Gotta Say, I'm Proud Of You All. This Revolution Has Been A Huge Success. Yay Us!"
@bigdream_dreambig2 жыл бұрын
He didn't win! "It's a tie." 😝
@Poss12 жыл бұрын
Gonna be fun! Your joyful reactions and Taika's playful storytelling. As usual, I'm excited. See you there! :)
@pirategoku62382 жыл бұрын
Hulk saying please is rare
@a1sawse9392 жыл бұрын
Mjlonir was hela’s first from the mural photo and Thor got it after, that’s why she was able to destroy it because she understands the hammer better
@danielruiz82592 жыл бұрын
45:55 Get you someone who looks at you like Loki looks at the Tesseract.
@grimfargo78582 жыл бұрын
MAPLE you are the best, love your reactions ❤️
@yaboysjdior2 жыл бұрын
In this whole movie I just remembered how loki is improving him self becoming better with his brother then dies that's not fair even in those moments that smiling face not knowing it's last moment is fear
@marclewis55052 жыл бұрын
Great reaction to Thor Ragnarok Maple.😃🥰
@idhunepijl14042 жыл бұрын
This was definitely one of my favorite Marvel movies. Some parts are really funny.
@TakeCareOfYourself244342 жыл бұрын
yea
@ryanadams26712 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to this one. Easily my favorite MCU film even more so than Infinity War or End game. The amount of fan service in Ragnarok is honestly insane. I’ve genuinely been enjoying your series.
@ashtonsebastian89372 жыл бұрын
17:29 easter egg ( thanos gauntlet )
@Pinkielover2 жыл бұрын
Hela is actually loki 's daughter , in everything but the MCU , Even in mythology She's the ruler of the realm of the dead basically when anybody ever and all as guardians die and humans die they go there.. Look into comics and cartoons she's a pretty cool character
@crossbones132 жыл бұрын
"Safe passage through the anus!" Thank you for granting that, Maple-D!
@johnmurphy69282 жыл бұрын
I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REACTIONS SO MUCHHHH
@Nekrovelho2 жыл бұрын
One of the top movies of this phase, fun as heck but also hits hard at times.
@Zaburino2 жыл бұрын
This is the MCU vid I've been waiting for!
@tonyyul7032 жыл бұрын
Okay Maple 🍁...... After *Black Panther* 💜🖤💜 be sure to bring a roll of tissue because *infinity war* is that type of movie
@Andjelka992 жыл бұрын
I love how confused you were with humor in this. Complete 180 in tone for Thor (witch Chris highly appreciated he was ready to give up the role). I very very much suggest to add What we do in the shadows(!) or Jojo rabbit as movie to watch. Same director as this, Taika has his own style and I love it so much
@Zane171982 жыл бұрын
I love her reaction😉👍
@jagdtony2 жыл бұрын
“HOW THE HELL YOU TURN UP MISSING?” Lmao love it
@HydraulicDesign2 жыл бұрын
How do almost no reactors realize that's Thanos at the end? It was obvious in the theater, like who else would it be, what movie is coming up soon? Fascinating.
@daking9122 жыл бұрын
Most reactors don’t know who thanos is
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
She hasn't watched trailers and doesn't even know the movie order
@APhilosophicalMind2 жыл бұрын
Love how they incorporate the Nordic Pantheon (my peoples pantheon) in Marvel :) Just 1 small correction... Hela and the Fenriswolf (and Jormungand - which is not in this movie) were NOT the children of Odin but the children of Loki... so when they are fighting Hela and the Fenriswolf they are fighting Lokis daughter and son (and Thors Neice and Nephew) hehe But other than that... great movie :D
@dunringill17472 жыл бұрын
Marvel Comics took a lot of liberties with Norse Mythology, but the comics did stick with Hela, Fenriswolf, and Jormungand being the children of Loki. As for the Disney MCU - they took even more liberties with both Norse Mythology and Marvel Comic Lore. And not in a good way. The Marvel MCU story telling spirit has been slowly changing to Disney Groupthink MCU story telling.
@kermitcook84982 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Maple, still my fave preamble. You go girl.. Hey to Chad.
@DogmaBeoulve2 жыл бұрын
Maple is too damn cute... "Mister Doctor Straaaange!" XD She knows what a kidney punch is?! WIFE MATERIAL!
@matanzaoui6992 жыл бұрын
Still in love with Maple 🥰🤓
@Shauncollier2 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this since January
@ricardoortiz4870 Жыл бұрын
Red Skull, Ronan, and Hela have a few things in common.
@MrCoalmin2 жыл бұрын
really great recording and editing!
@Vibranium_man2 жыл бұрын
40:00 said every older sibling when younger siblings get in the front seat of a car.
@Steve-qy6yk2 жыл бұрын
One of the best Marvel films - and Chris Hemsworth at his comedy best! Your reaction to Hela was hilarious - totally crushing on her😄😄
@alanhilton36112 жыл бұрын
Excellent film The humour has to be the best in a Marvel film the one thing I don't get how can Thor be electrocuted by that device when he produces lightning from his body😳
@Khay-772 жыл бұрын
It's adapted from the Planet Hulk comics and was used to capture powerful beings such as the Silver Surfer.
@bigdream_dreambig2 жыл бұрын
I just assumed it wasn't actually electrical, but rather some high-tech, future-sci-fi device that disables the nervous system or something.
@geekgirl6162 жыл бұрын
I believe Kyle Hill did a video on this some electric eels are the same way they can handle high voltage but lower voltage shocks will still stun them we can infer the same is true for Thor
@dylancole19102 жыл бұрын
@@bigdream_dreambig same
@Grizzlox2 жыл бұрын
Jurassic Park sequels couldn't manage to get Jeff Goldblum and Sam Neil together in a movie again, but Taika Waititi could.
@dontwitty16562 жыл бұрын
did you notice it was Mat Damon as the stage Loki and stage Thor was another Hemsworth
@ricardoortiz4870 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Hulk had “needs” while he is in Sakaar for 2 years.
@randeecarreno42892 жыл бұрын
So excited for this one! 😊 This is my favorite of the "Thor" movies thus far. The trailer for the 4th one "Thor: Love and Thunder" looks fantastic! I'll always love how, if Maple remembers from when Hulk smashed Loki at the end of the first Avengers movie, Hulk smashes Thor in the same pattern as he did with Loki. I remember when I first saw this movie I was wanting for Hulk to call Thor a "puny god" like he did with Loki. But I love Loki's "YES! THAT'S HOW IT FEELS!". Jeff Goldblum is great as the Grandmaster. And Tess Thompson is also a fantastic addition to the cast. Thor and Loki's "get help" scene is one of my favorite scenes of this movie. Phase 3 is starting to wind down. Next up: "Black Panther". Looking forward to your next reaction. 😊
@Mwoods22722 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Maple reaction
@TheWindcrow2 жыл бұрын
oh come on, how do you not laugh your ass off at this stuff Maple XD
@MapleDivine2 жыл бұрын
I am used to Thor being more serious 🥲 just wasn’t prepared haha
@TheWindcrow2 жыл бұрын
@@MapleDivine I love drax and Thor humor. It breaks up the seriousness of the avengers movies. Plus Jeff goldblum is so eccentric 😂
@alive4metal7312 жыл бұрын
Contrast this "coronation" scene with the coronation scene from the first Thor movie... night and day..
@Rytonic692 жыл бұрын
Ragnarok was the best Thor movie because it was the first one that used Chris Hemsworth's sense of humor. The guy is actually really funny
@TheWindcrow2 жыл бұрын
Jeff Goldblum.........Such a treasure AHAHA
@hardiksen28052 жыл бұрын
You guys cut her some slack. Humor is supposed to be subjective.
@nathiSTEFF2 жыл бұрын
Where the Kratos fans at🔥🔥💪🏾
@JuanRamos-td3ws2 жыл бұрын
How did Tony’s pants stretch enough to accommodate Hulk?
@ricardoortiz4870 Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't want to see Hulk not hide his "zucchini" would you? lol
@VOXNISAQT2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the god of sparks
@mfrey56432 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked Loki didn't realize the tesseract was in the vault the whole time he was pretending to be Odin
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
Oh wait yeah! How the hell
@stevechitty58612 жыл бұрын
In Norse mythology the gigantic wolf was actually one of Lokie 's children
@jinwoosmile2 жыл бұрын
mr.dr.strange MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
@scottredding73572 жыл бұрын
Stan Lee must have been a heckuva hairdresser. He took perfection and made it better.
@athena92602 жыл бұрын
16:15 believe me, i have read at least 56 different theories about this scene, and you dont want to know what 55 of them are
@DonaldHolben2 жыл бұрын
The new Trailer for Love and thunder looks wicked!
@TheStormyClouds2 жыл бұрын
NGL, I'm new here and I thought you said "Diet Jesus" as your name and had to scroll down.
@jonahpedersen54292 жыл бұрын
“Thors so fuckin cool” ought to be an MCU movie
@normlee65662 жыл бұрын
You are on the verge of a finale that is one of the best franchise endings I have ever seen. More satisfying than the Potter franchise ender (which were actually pretty good), and far more satisfying than Star Wars finale (not so good), IMO.
@bugsbunny_96182 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question , but can someone explain to me how thor still shocks when he is the god of thunder?
@IndependentConversations9 ай бұрын
Lighting shocks?
@bugsbunny_96189 ай бұрын
@@IndependentConversations I guess Electrocute or electrocution would have been a beter choice of word
@felipemedina50732 жыл бұрын
So the big ship at the end is thanos the father of Gamora and nebula from guardians of the galaxy. It's leads to the next movie avengers: infinity war.
@Diegesis2 жыл бұрын
Next movie is black panther
@simung73122 жыл бұрын
Maple is gorgeous
@Hopelessboy-Av72 жыл бұрын
23:50 same reaction when I saw this scene 😂😂 Love from india 🇮🇳❤️
@tusharrajgautam55772 жыл бұрын
By the way hela didn’t died. She teleported herself watch in slow-mo
@richarridernova2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see you watch infinity war, one of the best perhaps the best