Dieppe 1942 - Slaughter on the Shingle

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@chantalgadoua5144
@chantalgadoua5144 4 жыл бұрын
My father in law was taken prisoner at the raid on Dieppe. To this day he maintains that they were sacrificed and used as cannon fodder. He is still alive and was reluctant to discuss the experience as he spent 32 months in a German pow camp. Now 98, he has shared parts of the experience with us and our children. He is still very sharp and memories are still vivid. He was interviewed by the projet mémoire. Thank you for helping us to remember.
@bolivar2153
@bolivar2153 4 жыл бұрын
''We were very glad to go, we were delighted, we were up against a very difficult situation, and we didn't win. But to hell with this business of saying the generals done us dirt.'' - Lt. Col. Charles Cecil Merritt VC
@marcusaetius9309
@marcusaetius9309 4 жыл бұрын
Your father in law is correct...
@bolivar2153
@bolivar2153 4 жыл бұрын
@ "Merritt led his regiment [The South Saskatchewan Regiment] in the Dieppe raid on 19 August 1942. Before being taken as a prisoner of war, Merritt was wounded twice. For his extreme bravery and inspirational leadership under fire, Merritt was awarded the Victoria Cross." Yea, real political guy ... I'd take his opinion over yours any day. What did you say your qualifications for passing judgement were ... ? Edit : He'd long since left the army when the quote was made. I assume you took the trouble to read this man's citation for his Victoria Cross (you can find it in the London Gazette archives) before proceeding to attempt to belittle him and his views?
@tamaustralia4949
@tamaustralia4949 3 жыл бұрын
Gday mate Hes correct used and left to die or worse...
@francishuddy9462
@francishuddy9462 3 жыл бұрын
The raid was stupid, idiotic. Simple as that. 5,000 land at Dieppe. Then what?? An idiots' raid.
@williamjeffersonclinton69
@williamjeffersonclinton69 4 жыл бұрын
Videos like this is why KZbin is great. Too bad KZbin doesn't have the stones to promote content like this. Bravo sir.
@gearoidbergin5096
@gearoidbergin5096 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I love you tupe.
@garykuiken6191
@garykuiken6191 4 жыл бұрын
Well said from a great president from a Canadian liberated by Canadians in the north of Holland very near the end of the war. We had the privilege to have them stay in our house.
@dellingson4833
@dellingson4833 4 жыл бұрын
​@@Soltra45 Mark puts up some very rare content. Many classic documentaries and content creators have been scrubbed which made this company what it was. But now these great classics are showing up on Bitchute etc. for instance the 4 hour long, "The Greatest Story Never Told". which is the German version of WW2. I have noticed they promote everything everyone quit watching such as late night shows which they themselves have destroyed. There will never be another Johnny Carson. Also msm with no viewership such as msmbc and cnn have the Food Channel beating their ratings. The great utube days are long gone as we move to new platforms. Now to find a streaming company with good content is even tough, like what's happened to the content on Netflix and Hulu. I don't think hiring unemployed gender study graduates to pick your movie selection for your platform is a good idea. As long as hollyweird keeps putting out garbage the public will keep letting them know what they think our wallets. Sorry for carrying on like this on Mark's comment section but his channel is one of a handful left that are awesome. Just think if a lot of these WW2 and other war documentaries had been edited and narrated by Mark, wow.
@robertfrench2807
@robertfrench2807 4 жыл бұрын
Or even monetise videos like this. Never mind they’ll be over taken soon
@catified2081
@catified2081 4 жыл бұрын
You tube is run by liberal trash that hate history! They hate history because liberals always make the wrong decisions so of course they need to suppress it.
@fishhaggisify
@fishhaggisify 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin was on the command ship. He made sure that I knew his story of Dieppe. He was deeply and humbly impressed at the bravery of the Canadians going ashore. He said that even when it was becoming clear it was a mess, the Canadians still got in the landing crafts and went ashore to join their fellow soldiers with the fight. He said two Canadians, pinned down on the beach for hours and watching their group get picked off, decided that swimming back out was their only option. They dumped their gear and started swimming towards the ships. They had almost made it and started floundering when a boat scooped them up and delivered them to the command ship. They were the only ones left of their group that had gone ashore. They were hypothermic and in shock, so they were given blankets and a pot of hot tea and jammed into the head next to the radio room. The head was a small room and they could warm up there. The Germans targeted the command ship radio room and a shell went crashing through were those two men were, tearing them apart. My cousin said that it was just their day to die. My cousin remarked that there was no doubt Canadians were extremely brave and did their bit. As my cousin is Scottish, he poured himself a whisky while telling me this story, while me being Canadian I got a beer as well as a whisky. He is long gone now but he looked me in the eye and implored me to tell anyone willing to listen this story of the brave Canadians that went to war.
@jakubswitalski7989
@jakubswitalski7989 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Their memory lives on
@jellybean4049
@jellybean4049 2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame we don't know their names. Prehaps someone does.
@fraserdougall8965
@fraserdougall8965 2 жыл бұрын
Amen 🙏
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 2 жыл бұрын
There is a church in Toronto that used to have the regimental flags of these different units hanging from the rafters. As many men in WW1 and 2 from that church died in the war. I was saddened a few years ago to find the flags removed and remembrance day activities with a military unit that had been done for decades stopped.
@tejedestinos-petonboostead6733
@tejedestinos-petonboostead6733 2 жыл бұрын
*The canadian nerd commenting on his 145th account*
@ELMS
@ELMS 4 жыл бұрын
Mark, here’s an interesting sidebar. My high school vice-principal, J.G.W. Mills, (a Canadian) participated in the raid. He told me a little bit about it one time. He was a radio operator who was landed one one of the flanking beaches. He was equipped with the radio, an Aldis Lamp and a revolver. His unit was making good progress, but as the raid progressed he began to hear over the radio that it was all going sideways, and everyone should return to the beach for extraction. He became terrified that he would be captured and the Germans would use his Aldis lamp to give false signals to the incoming rescue boats. So he threw it on the sand, drew his revolver, and shot the lamp four times. When he made it to the beach he was told the lamp was needed to signal the boats. In spite of reporting that he’d shot the lamp he was ordered to go and get it. After walking and finding it he discovered that his four bullets had merely pierced the sheet metal at the four corners of the battery box, and that the lamp worked perfectly. “I always thought they should have given me the Victoria Cross for being such a bad shot!” he laughed. Mills stayed in the Canadian Army (PPCLI) and got his commission. In Korea he was with 2PPCLI at the battle of Kapyong. He was mentioned in dispatches for ordering artillery fire directly onto his own position at the top of hill 677. Captain Mills was a pretty incredible person.
@aventari
@aventari 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for this
@gabrielcalin4238
@gabrielcalin4238 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent story
@tekis0
@tekis0 4 жыл бұрын
Thank-you for sharing this! Hey Mark, this post needs your red star!!👍
@majorhawker4776
@majorhawker4776 4 жыл бұрын
Your Principal was Capt. Mills. I would have been a pain in his arse, as I would have always been in his office asking questions.
@robsmith8310
@robsmith8310 4 жыл бұрын
those old veterans had the hearts of lion and the strength of character you can only wish for these days,many an afternoon i sat in a hotel lounge listening quietly as they remenesed,surprisingly they all felt horrible to a man at taking the lives of the enemy,putting it down to foolish youthful bravado,tearing up at the talk of fallen friends,always warning us younger people to avoid war at all cost`s...they were truly unsung heroes that we sadly only remember on nov 11and i truly miss those old warriors and the stories of long ago escapades.....
@noeouvry2011
@noeouvry2011 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Dieppe and i think this is sad that we aren’t teach more about this raid, only my grandma told some story of her father
@bruce8321
@bruce8321 4 жыл бұрын
I as a Canadian visited Dieppe to see where my countrymen died. It was a sad visit for sure.
@model-man7802
@model-man7802 4 жыл бұрын
@@bruce8321 It wasnt for Nothing,Thanks and Honor to Canada.❤✌
@johnnieireland2057
@johnnieireland2057 4 жыл бұрын
Tell more people in your town of Dieppe about it when you have the chance
@Surv1ve_Thrive
@Surv1ve_Thrive 4 жыл бұрын
Noe Ouvry salut. I am a Brit and worked in France often, lived there too. I was in Cambrai for work. a young hotel receptionist guy when I was checking out v early one winter morning was making conversation, said there is nothing interesting in Cambrai (I speak v good French) so I said well there is the countryside, the town buildings, the history, also the battlefields etc he had no idea about any interesting history. I said it’s the first place tanks were used, WW1, although it’s not a happy history. he had no idea at all. I thought he was joking but he was young and very hippy and I think it was true. I said he’s not missing anything I suppose if he’s not interested. Later on I saw a tank on a plinth so someone remembers!
@TheSpritz0
@TheSpritz0 4 жыл бұрын
MANY teachers these days in Europe are Communists or Social Democrats so they will suppress any mention of ANGLOS sacrificing themselves to help France, only Russia and the Maquis are mentioned as the "Saviors of Europe"...
@anthonystagliano9795
@anthonystagliano9795 4 жыл бұрын
I stood on that beach three years ago and it was absolutely heartbreaking. You could see how those rocks could grind a tank down, and the view toward the town and and surrounding cliffs left no doubt that these poor lads had no bloody chance. It was a senseless slaughter. As a Canadian, Dieppe moved me even more than Juno, at least the boys there had a fighting chance. May they rest in peace; I will be eternally grateful.
@johnhardin4358
@johnhardin4358 3 жыл бұрын
Fighting chance in Normandy? The emplacements there stored a few thousand rounds and in the action could not be resupplied. The Allies just had to absorb the bullets until the forts ran out. War is all about calculation.
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 3 жыл бұрын
Canadians have always stepped up to the plate and it looks to me like they were taken advantage of
@CaptainRon1913
@CaptainRon1913 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhardin4358 Juno was backed up by the 21st Panzer division with 350 tanks, the 12th SS with 150 tanks & 20,000 soldiers, and 3 battalions of 716th Infantry coastal defense division with 7700 soldiers. They had no shortage of ammo
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
I heard a story from a German who knew a German soldier who was at Dieppe. That soldier didn't feel good about fighting there because according to him those poor Canadians didn't have a chance.
@horrortackleharry
@horrortackleharry 4 жыл бұрын
Always beware politicians with an obsessive desire to 'do something' during an armed conflict.
@kenvandeburgt1232
@kenvandeburgt1232 4 жыл бұрын
Correction 'to be seen to be doing something' Not exactly the same.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын
@@kenvandeburgt1232 Yes, well picked up.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just politicians its a certain weak minded segment of people who feel they "have to do something". I had one idiot sgt who would say you gotta do something even if its wrong. He got one promotion to sgt then the brass figured what dork he was and his upper mobility stopped.
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
You mean like Churchill?...thank god he did.
@henrikknudsen8125
@henrikknudsen8125 4 жыл бұрын
"Just as we are going to evaluate these experiences for the future so is the assaulting force ... perhaps even more so as it has gained the experience dearly. He will not do it like this a second time!" -
@doubledekercouch
@doubledekercouch 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Felton for History channel chairman Goals: A. Get actual history shows on there B. Tell the ice road truckers to seek warmer climates
@archstanton1628
@archstanton1628 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the History channel is not savable, it just needs shut down. The only decent US channel that isn't obsessed with aliens and other pseudoscience is PBS, a truly great channel that needs love.
@dancollins4755
@dancollins4755 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Magellen and Curiosity stream both are subscription but worth it.
@4T3hM4kr0n
@4T3hM4kr0n 4 жыл бұрын
@@archstanton1628 history channel was really fun to watch with "modern marvels" in the early 2000's. I remember avidly watching it when I was in grade school.
@2011woodlands
@2011woodlands 4 жыл бұрын
The curse of oak island is that it is still on tv.
@erepsekahs
@erepsekahs 4 жыл бұрын
According to Justin Trudeau all they have to do is stay right where they are and wait a few years.
@brianlopez8855
@brianlopez8855 3 жыл бұрын
with his endless stream of WWII documentaries, Mark Felton, has, single handed, stopped 50% of the UK population from going round the bend in Covid Lockdown. Great work !
@vinniemoran7362
@vinniemoran7362 3 жыл бұрын
A fair percentage of Americans too. ;)
@Mike12522
@Mike12522 3 жыл бұрын
Brian, it's often said that every third person out there is stark raving mad. Fortunately, there are only two of us.
@clebmedia
@clebmedia 3 жыл бұрын
And Australians. Too bad covid and lockdowns are a massive fucken scam
@bobbarker2726
@bobbarker2726 3 жыл бұрын
I've met several people who enjoy it here in Canada also.
@shearwave7885
@shearwave7885 3 жыл бұрын
Another for America here
@rexmundi3108
@rexmundi3108 4 жыл бұрын
I knew an old gentleman who survived this raid. I used to buy him a drink every Remembrance Day that I ran in to him. As is typical, he never spoke of it but once at a ceremony he met a man whose life he had saved. It was an emotional reunion. They no doubt discussed their experiences that day. After all, words are useless without shared experience.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 4 жыл бұрын
Not always, but how did that topic come up with the old man?
@evandotterer4365
@evandotterer4365 4 жыл бұрын
You really can’t imagine how stressful and horrible that experience must have been. I mean just look at the losses. Immense
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm, some of them old salts would tell you if you had asked....it depended on HOW you asked, genuine interest they liked, reporter types....never....usually when a bunch of old soldiers drank together, you couldn't shut em up....ANZAC day years ago, had to be seen to believed, these days it has become a family affair as they are mosly all gone.
@CRAIG5835
@CRAIG5835 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottleft3672 Hear Hear. RIP old diggers, your contribution shall never be forgotten, thanks to your sacrifice we still speak English, not German or Japanese.
@joeinfax4190
@joeinfax4190 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottleft3672 Went to a regimental reunion in the 70's and the Dieppe veterans sat at a table and kept to themselves. I was a kid and we did most jaw flapping, maybe it's different down under:)
@whitecrane3714
@whitecrane3714 4 жыл бұрын
My good friend here in Calgary, Bill Stewart was the driver of Bert no# 6. Bill will be turning 98 here in April. Heard many stories over beer at the legion. Bill is a strong and humble man. God bless you Bill and thank you.
@humphreeyy3726
@humphreeyy3726 4 жыл бұрын
White Crane Scissors god bless his soul 🇨🇦
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын
God bless him. Buy him a beer on behalf of this Aussie. Did he do D-Day as well?
@guywerry6614
@guywerry6614 4 жыл бұрын
@Private Account Please, let me return the favour. As a Canadian who is a casual WW2 buff I know the debt that we owe to the Aussies, NZ, Rhodesians, South Africans - if I have missed any I apologize. Much really awful and dirty fighting in the Pacific and Africa. Thanks to you all.
@vincentlefebvre9255
@vincentlefebvre9255 4 жыл бұрын
@@guywerry6614 Don't forget soldiers from India .
@curtismes
@curtismes 4 жыл бұрын
and once again I learn more in 10 minutes about Dieppe than a year of the History Channel...well done.
@scottabc72
@scottabc72 4 жыл бұрын
Ive read about the Dieppe raid several times but I was never aware of it being part of a plan to provoke a major air battle, I always learn something with these videos.
@andrewcharles459
@andrewcharles459 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is my skeptical look with that claim. I've read a few RAF and RCAF fighter pilot memoirs which cover this period, and none of them ever suggested they were looking for things to do. "Flower" and "Rhubarb" missions over occupied territory were frequent and hair-raising.
@jonsmitt9769
@jonsmitt9769 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one of the vague and puzzling objectives attached to the raid. In 1942 the RAF was limited to small short range fighters. Even though Dieppe is just across the channel, spitfires had as little as 10min over the battle before they had to head back for fuel. The predictable result was a reverse of the Battle of Britain. The Germans now could quickly land to rearm/refuel which gave them local numerical superiority compared to the RAF who had to work in relays and if damaged were unlikely to get home.
@rscott2247
@rscott2247 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonsmitt9769 I was under the impression that the RAF Spitfires & Hurricane fighters had a much better range than the Bf-109's ?
@waynemiller7382
@waynemiller7382 Жыл бұрын
Too much over stating in the UK of how wonderful the spitfire was, when the reality is it was no better a fighter aircraft at the time than the Luftwaffe had. This video shows that. Much of the success of the spitfire in the battle of Britain was due to poor Luftwaffe tactics and lack of perseverance. i.e. had the Luftwaffe continued for a couple of more weeks or so, the Luftwaffe probably would have come out better due to unsustainable attrition on the RAF (aircraft, pilots and airfields). The merlin engine was the real jewel as demonstrated later in the Mustang .
@wakeup8052
@wakeup8052 4 жыл бұрын
I had the great pleasure of meeting one of the tank comanders from Alberta at the Calgary war museum in 2014 i believe. He told me that his tracks broke due to all the stones. He said he knew he was a sitting duck so he fired off all his ammo so he would be less explosive when he was he eventually hit. He said the tank was full of smoke and guys were trying to get in to save themselves. He told me the young German he surrendered to was holding a pistol and shaking. He thought that was it. In the museum there are pics of the Canadian prisoners marching through dieppe. The old man points to a couple and says, "there's me, amd there's me again". It was just absolutely amazing. I'll never forget that.
@cgaccount3669
@cgaccount3669 4 жыл бұрын
Great museum! I got to chat with a cold war fighter pilot! It seems like they treat us with some interesting volunteers. If you see an old person in a military museum try to wander their direction and you might hear some amazing personal history
@SO-vv9dn
@SO-vv9dn 4 жыл бұрын
What. museum?
@dennisboyd5157
@dennisboyd5157 4 жыл бұрын
My father John McMaster Boyd was on this raid with number 4 Commando. He was wounded in the dunes and taken prisoner. He never talked much about the raid other than the Germans were waiting for them. After he passed I started a Family tree. I was contacted by a ex Liverpool Fireman who was researching those Cammndos that were KIA, Wounded and sent me documents about my Dad. My Dad served his whole life in the Army serving in many trouble spots around the world ending up serving in Ulstet his home Country. He always looked after the weak and those in need he was a protector all his life. He always taught us how to look after ourselves and respect others. Reading his records it was clear he was under age and that the Deppie Raid and POW experience had a profound impack on his life. We lived in Canada for 2 years and I think this was due to Dieppe. Respect to all those men who fought be side each other on this terrible raid We will Remember Them All.
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Dennis Boyd, thank you the great story of your Dad
@andrewprunitis6059
@andrewprunitis6059 Жыл бұрын
Shoot. Gordon Lightfoot should have wrote a song about this.
@johnnytruth9100
@johnnytruth9100 4 жыл бұрын
I've had the honour to know Ken Curry, one of the members of the RHLI captured in Dieppe most of my life. He now lives in Victoria BC, and is the last surviving member of the regiment who participated in the raid. Every year, on the 19th of August, there is a candlelight vigil held at the Dieppe Memorial site located on the beach strip in Hamilton. When Major Curry is able to attend, he arrives with a full motorcycle escort, and he is treated like royalty. He is such a kind and gentle man, and he once said to me, Everyone says I am a Hero, but I didn't do anything that special. I am grateful for his influence and his respect.
@mikeharrison4768
@mikeharrison4768 4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Truth I was in the RHLI at the end of the 80’s and recall a veteran come into the Jr Ranks Mess. We were always happy to see veterans and I asked him about his time in the Rileys. He said he was at Dieppe, and that he hoped I would never have to do that. Then he changed the subject.
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Johnny Truth, thanks for telling that story, so glad to hear he is treated like royalty.
@magellandufour1
@magellandufour1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you Mark for covering this! As a volunteer at the Calgary Military Museum, home of the Calgary Tank Regiment, I am glad that this raid is covered by your channel, and remember the sacrificed of the 14th Army Tank Regiment on that day, many of whom went to POW camp afterward.
@johnnieireland2057
@johnnieireland2057 4 жыл бұрын
i'll have to come visit your museum sometime. I'm in Vancouver :)
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 4 жыл бұрын
My Dad was with the Calgary Tanks in WW2, and I am a close friend of the Museum's Curator (Col R Boehli, Ret). My Dad's Uniform is on display there. He joined shortly after the raid, but he knew most of the guys who made it back after the raid, as well as most who survived the POW Camps. I wasn't surprised to find out that the whole thing was a cover to the REAL operation - which was to try to capture a new (4-rotor) Naval Enigma machine, as I always suspected there MUST be some underlying reason to KNOWINGLY set up a raid that you KNEW was going to fail. If the Enigma "snatch" had succeeded, though, it would probably have shortened the war by 6-8 months, and saved THOUSANDS of lives. Unfortunately, in wartime, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and this time was a loss. Many paid the ultimate sacrifice, many were injured and many spent the rest of the war in POW Camps. But they TRIED, and they made the attempt! They were ALL Heroes! From One Veteran to all those who preceded me.... I Salute you!
@cgaccount3669
@cgaccount3669 4 жыл бұрын
I love the museum! The staff seems more interested in history and respect than getting money as most Alberta attractions focus on now. It's a shame it isn't completely free though. History should be for the poor too but Ralph Klein put an end to free museums in Alberta. I'd go more often if I wasn't on the far side of town. I had the pleasure of talking to a volunteer cold war fighter pilot. He had amazing stories!
@davidmulhall2710
@davidmulhall2710 4 жыл бұрын
I learned about Dieppe at school as a Canadian, and I’ve read a bit as a history buff and this is the first time I’ve heard that the reason for Dieppe was to draw the Luftwaffe into a large aerial showdown ! Thanks!
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear David Mulhall, there were other reasons for the raid. A Canadian military historian ( last name O'KEEFE, first name David , l believe) did an investigative documentary that uncovered that a special British Intelligence Unit, which James Bond author Ian Fleming was high up in, was wanting to capture a top secret German coding machine , known as the Enigma, from a secret location in Dieppe. Accordingly to Mr. O'Keefe, Ian Fleming was waiting in the Dieppe harbour for the machine.
@frankryan2505
@frankryan2505 4 жыл бұрын
Never realised Dieppe was such a large scale operation, great video as usual.
@Souleman561
@Souleman561 4 жыл бұрын
Well too allied troops was number at 1520 total so make sense that it goes unnoticed as well as the fact the mission failed..
@silentwulffff
@silentwulffff 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a story allied command would tell you
@sjfrouleau
@sjfrouleau 4 жыл бұрын
It was a horrific mission... The British used Canadians as cannon fauther.... The mission was also leaked few days before ... Much of the poor planning and mistakes days before was left out of the story.
@sjfrouleau
@sjfrouleau 4 жыл бұрын
@@Souleman561 Of the 6,086 men who landed, within ten hours, 3,623 had been killed, wounded or became prisoners of war.
@davidhughes3337
@davidhughes3337 4 жыл бұрын
@michael dowson - I’ve just looked this up and it is not believed to be the case.
@liampett1313
@liampett1313 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather fought in this battle. He was apart of the unit who's job it was to capture the Casino, this was done successfully however seeing reinforcements arriving he ran back to the beach and was able to get back into the landing craft and escape. He still had the bottle of alcohol he took from the Casino till the day he died.
@visionist7
@visionist7 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have that bottle still?
@brute6896
@brute6896 4 жыл бұрын
The bottle needs to be a heirloom, it must not be forgotten
@davidmarshall1259
@davidmarshall1259 4 жыл бұрын
Good Lad Grandpa!
@raf0083
@raf0083 4 жыл бұрын
I live in Berneval and m'y grand farmer looks the raid
@liampett1313
@liampett1313 4 жыл бұрын
@@visionist7 my father is working on piecing everything together! Including an in depth story and posting it to a Veterans page somewhere. I don't believe much of his war memorabilia was found as he hated the war a lot. I'll be sure to ask around and see if the bottle was recovered after his death!
@wpenrose
@wpenrose 3 жыл бұрын
As a schoolboy in Hamilton, Ontario, almost everyone knew someone who'd lost their father at Dieppe. If Mountbatten had shown his arrogant royal face in Canada, he risked being torn to pieces. No one wept when the IRA blew him up on his yacht. My wife's uncle escaped by stripping down and running into the water. All around him, swimming comrades were drowned or shot but he made it back unscathed and was in fierce fighting for the rest of the war. The only positive outcome of Dieppe was that Mountbatten was excluded from the planning of D-Day, or he would have made a shitshow of that, too.
@spm36
@spm36 3 жыл бұрын
Pressured to do so by YOUR Canadian government as it was clearly stated here..but hey ignore the facts to appease your feelings
@kayak1969p
@kayak1969p 3 жыл бұрын
aye i believe mountbatten was a total Smeghead
@douglapointe6810
@douglapointe6810 3 жыл бұрын
@@spm36 the British also promised naval and air support that disappeared after the troops were committed..
@celticdodge5282
@celticdodge5282 3 жыл бұрын
Well for what it's worth, I can tell you as an Irishman, no one wept over here either when he was blown to pieces off the coast of Mullaghmore by the Provisional IRA.
@nicoz5624
@nicoz5624 3 жыл бұрын
Are you saying your wife’s uncle stripped down and swam across The Channel to continue the war?
@belbro62
@belbro62 4 жыл бұрын
what a clusterfack .commanders being cavalier with grunts lives. god rest your souls gallant fighting men
@thebeagles2025
@thebeagles2025 4 жыл бұрын
My father was there. Royal Regiment of Canada. Blue Beach. 97% casualties. For the longest time, we could not figure out why a private would spend 2 years, 11 months and 1 day in Stalag 9C, because that prison was for officers. But he'd been wounded pretty bad and Stalag 9C was the closest prison to the hospital he'd been in. In 2017 I was speaking with some people who belong to a Dieppe veterans group and Dad's description of where he'd been taken after the fighting on the 19th came up. Dad always maintained that they were put in a tennis court. This gentleman I was talking with went to Dieppe that summer for the 75th anniversary and he sent me text message saying, "Its still here. I get it. Its not a tennis court but it looks like one." So Dad's memory had been right. He tried to escape three times... once while he was working in a mine. Once, he and a buddy rolled off the side of a cliff while on the way to the mine. He got caught both times. The third time was the night of The Great Escape. The official history of the Royal Regiment of Canada shows that three Canadian enlisted men went out that night and he was one of them. He was within sight of the Swiss border when the dogs found him. I am often asked as a photographer, if I could take one photograph at any point in history, what would I photograph? There are no known photographs of my father in combat. Even knowing what that day was like, I would choose to be there to take one photo of him. He wouldn't want me too, but I would.
@jackroutledge352
@jackroutledge352 4 жыл бұрын
Richard Dupuis Thank you for sharing this. You must be very proud of your Dad, and rightly so. I have to say, I’ve learnt more from the comments section in Mark’s videos than a lifetime’s subscription to the discovery channel!
@thebeagles2025
@thebeagles2025 4 жыл бұрын
@eric kowalski And the Canadians paid for it. Or at least the Germans tried. Every day the Germans shackled the hands of the Canadian prisoners (at least at Stalag 9C) and the shackles did not come off until lights out. That was in retaliation for the binding of prisoners by the Canadians. Don't be too proud? That's seriously what you have to say about the men who fought in WW2? I'd tell you what I think of you but I wouldn't want to ruin Mr Felton's rating here.
@iamconmasfra
@iamconmasfra 4 жыл бұрын
@eric kowalski Bud get your head out your ass and think about what you are saying for a few minutes
@josephosheavideos3992
@josephosheavideos3992 2 жыл бұрын
We in the United States are seldom informed of how our Canadian allies (who entered WWII shortly after it began) fought so bravely, particularly at Dieppe. Thank you, Mark, for this video; and thank you, Canada, for your part in the war effort.
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
Like you hint at, Canada, along with South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and India, all declared war on Germany within two days of the British declaration. That was in, for Canada, 7 days after Britain's. South Africa was the 11th June 1940. All of which certainly seemed to support the thought that the US was more interested in supplying both sides as long as it could. Only when the U-boats started the indiscriminant attacks on every ship did the US start to shift away from supplying both sides. And only after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour did the US start to think about war with Japan, not Germany and Italy. If Hitler hadn't declared war on the US, then the US would never have voluntarily declared war on Germany. Your brave nation didn't get involved in any war until over two years later than the brave countries who were fighting from 1939. Even Cuba got involved before you did.
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Жыл бұрын
So all the still non independent parts of the British Empire and the other countries directly dependant on Britain decided to do what Britain did? Wow how brave and unexpected! (Which century were we talking about again, I already forgot?)🤦‍♂️ And what exactly was the USA exporting to the German military in 1940-1942? Weapons? Explosives? Food? Machinery for expanding aircraft/vehicle/ammunition and artillery production? Because I think that's the type of material that was being delivered to the British side by them... However I haven't seen many pictures of Germans running around with Pattern 14 Enfields chambered in 8mm Mauser 🤔 🤷‍♂️ Maybe you are thinking of the Swiss supplying "both sides" and everyone is still waiting on them to pick a side... Even today 🤣 I guess if you bankroll both teams you can never really lose 🤨
@Demun1649
@Demun1649 Жыл бұрын
@@berryreading4809 Grow up! Have you forgotten the First Line of your Constitution? "Anything that makes a buck is legal, even if it is stolen, or you kill to get it". The Ultra Secure Asylum was notorious for supplying metals, oil, fuel, and wood to Germany, while at the same time, telling the British that it wasn't happening. It seems that you Trumpanzees have fallen for the same lie.
@berryreading4809
@berryreading4809 Жыл бұрын
@@Demun1649 I'm completely lost in what you are talking about,l but judging from this response I'm guessing you must be an American who also thinks everyone else is an American? Farewell and good luck to you and your future youtube comment section pursuits 👍
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
From me & l sure others in Canada, thank you Joseph O'Shea
@BillBird2111
@BillBird2111 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark Felton. My father, Andrew Jackson Bird, was an American who served with the Essex Scottish unit that landed at Red Beach. Somehow, he managed to survive. He never got off the beach. He not only survived the battle, but also managed to survive nearly three years of captivity in a series of POW Camps before he was liberated near Hamburg, Germany following the Long March. I was born more than 20-years after this battle took place. As more time passes, I fully begin recognize the incredible sacrifice my father, and so many others around him, made in the fight against Fascism.
@rudyseigfriedausman7438
@rudyseigfriedausman7438 4 жыл бұрын
@rusty shackleford that's very true
@kylegoodreau2170
@kylegoodreau2170 4 жыл бұрын
he was an American that served in a Canadian unit ?
@HartDoug
@HartDoug 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Mark Felton, Thank you. I was born in 1948 (3 years after the end of the 2nd World War). My father was in the American Army Air Corps and later, the U.S. Air Force so I have always had an interest in Air Corps and that soon expanded to all aspects of the conflict. I had heard of Dieppe but didn’t know the specifics... So, again, Thank You!
@keltin2010
@keltin2010 3 жыл бұрын
My father and uncle were in this raid. My uncle, a lieutenant, was KIA at the age of 24. My father, a major, ended up as a guest of the Germans for 2 1/2 years until the war's end.
@mookie2637
@mookie2637 4 жыл бұрын
It's frequently occurred to me (and I'm a Brit) that Mountbatten was a bit of a twat.
@bonjovi1612
@bonjovi1612 4 жыл бұрын
My father used to meet/greet him when he flew into Northern Ireland, let’s just say he was considered by all to be one arrogant SOB! Apparently one day his dog ran off and Mountbatten lost the plot, apparently it wasn’t only his blood that was blue! The dog turned up a few weeks later looking all the better for it’s holiday! 😂
@andreraymond6860
@andreraymond6860 4 жыл бұрын
British understatement.
@yiannimil1
@yiannimil1 4 жыл бұрын
“ a bit of a twat “ ???
@seang3019
@seang3019 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreraymond6860 I'm only an immigrant but I think 'bit of a twat' is a worse insult than 'twat'. I may be wrong.
@stevepowsinger733
@stevepowsinger733 4 жыл бұрын
The Canadian government volunteered their troops, a decision they must have regretted. It was an invasion on the cheap and Germany was still very powerful. Blame Churchill if anyone.
@rickriede2166
@rickriede2166 4 жыл бұрын
Dr Felton.I sure would like to see a more detailed account of the Dieppe air battle being there is so little concrete information available..I feel if anyone is up to the task it must certainly be you.Thanks again for your outstanding content.
@garyhewitt489
@garyhewitt489 4 жыл бұрын
There's quite a bit of information available. Essentially the Brit planners closed there eyes and ears to reality, not wanting it to ruin a lovely plan. RAF squadrons had been reporting on the FW190s abilities for quite a while, they were Initially ignored but the "stopgap" mk9 spit was developed, there were six squadrons at Dieppe. MkVs at max range were never going to win a great battle. It was the BoB in reverse. Lots of bad reasons for the raid culminated into it being carried out. Fortunately they did learn lessons from the raid, also gave the Germans some reassurance as to allied ineptitude and poor equipment
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын
@@garyhewitt489 Wait, the RAF was using the outclassed Mk V at the edge of their range against German FW 190's operating close to home? BoB in reverse or worse.
@garyhewitt489
@garyhewitt489 4 жыл бұрын
@@markfryer9880 they used 74 squadrons @dieppe 66 were fighter squadrons 6 were mk 9s. All at extreme range, some reportedly had as little as 5 mins over the battlefield. Worse than the BoB In the BoB the 109 was comparable, some ways superior, others not as good to the RAF fighters. At Dieppe only the mk9 were comparable. The Mk5 was outclassed, the hurricanes were used for ground attack but useless against a 109, the Mustangs were used for low level intruder work and down on the deck pretty fast but no good at height. So the RAF was up against it in this operation. It was not a time or place they would have chosen to have a battle
@foresight87
@foresight87 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend you read 'Unauthorized Action: Mountbatten and the Dieppe Raid' by Brian Lorring Villa. It explains the immense political pressure that resulted in the decision to go ahead with an operation that was deeply conceptually flawed. It also debunks the 'lessons learned' myth that was spun in the aftermath of the catastrophe.
@hoatattis7283
@hoatattis7283 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Challis As far as I am aware there were no Canadians in North Africa
@gimenovax1
@gimenovax1 4 жыл бұрын
With the Germans ready waiting for them it was amazing any of them got off the beach into the town at all. Most Canadians believed Mountbatten knew the operation was compromised but sent them anyway, he was a very hated man in many Canadian circles.
@michaelroudybush7069
@michaelroudybush7069 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of content, quality and the content itself on this man's channel is completely mind blowing. This is absolutely amazing stuff.
@paulperez6163
@paulperez6163 4 жыл бұрын
You have the best WW2 history documentary channel on You Tube hands down. Keep up the good work. Really enjoy your videos.I turn off the tv as soon as a new video pops up and watch better entertainment on my phone than all the. Bullshit on television. Keep sending us more videos Mark. Will be waiting. Thanks.
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 4 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the stories! - Keep it up! There are SO many stories to tell!
@Will-no6te
@Will-no6te 4 жыл бұрын
I had a relative who survived this. He lived the rest of his days as a hermit in the Canadian wilderness, traumatized. Terrible. Thank you for your great video on Dieppe - it's often overlooked.
@fritzkralle4689
@fritzkralle4689 4 жыл бұрын
How many German babies did he kill?
@davidlynch9049
@davidlynch9049 4 жыл бұрын
@@fritzkralle4689 How many did your Nazi ancestors kill?
@TheOtherFagola
@TheOtherFagola 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlynch9049 Not enough.
@fergusmallon1337
@fergusmallon1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@fritzkralle4689 Apparently he missed your dad
@johndamon9488
@johndamon9488 3 жыл бұрын
Canadians saved my Father at the bulge , he was in the Gordan Highlanders and fell to an anti personal mine , he took a long time to crawl of to a road where a Canadian group of guys carried him to a field hospital . his leg was promptly amputated . He was a stoic English man and disliked the yanks for reasons I took many years to fathom, but had a deep respect for Canadians .
@faithandfreedom
@faithandfreedom 4 жыл бұрын
As always! A high quality historical video. As a Canadian i really appreciate this video. My father fought in Dieppe but not at the landing but at the liberation. Thank you Mark!👍
@SeaJayBelfast
@SeaJayBelfast 3 жыл бұрын
My grandad was there (Commando from Belfast). He refused to talk about the ordeal except to say how he admired the Canadians and felt they were basically sent to their death by upperclass Englishmen who couldn't care less.
@Boragath
@Boragath 4 жыл бұрын
Showed my opa your channel (was a kid during the occupation of holland). He absolutely loves it.
@artdeadcowulrik240
@artdeadcowulrik240 4 жыл бұрын
Nice that opa, now has a lot of super cool, great and thoroughly documented and explained material from WWII. Been following Mark for years and he keeps impressing me. All the best from Jordaan: -)
@williamwilliam5066
@williamwilliam5066 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliantly broad and deep analysis. Events mean nothing without the broader picture. Well done Mark
@danyarwood1432
@danyarwood1432 4 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather fought at Dieppe with the RHLI and was one of the few to get back to England! I joined that same unit myself in the 1980s🇨🇦
@reallyhappenings5597
@reallyhappenings5597 4 жыл бұрын
My father, born in 1935, was part of the RHLI youth parade band in Hamilton, he played the glockenspiel! Later he somehow came to possess a large genuine Nazi flag which he donated to the RHLI museum.
@MIKEL843
@MIKEL843 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on Gruppe Fehrmann, it was a makeshift last ditch Kampfgruppe that used "Frankenstein" Tiger and Panther tanks made running from salvaged parts. It would make for a great video.
@tophat2115
@tophat2115 3 жыл бұрын
My great uncle was a company sergeant major in the South Saskatchewan Rifles, one of the regiments tasked to the raid. He however was tapped about a month before the raid to be trained as an officer and dodged that bullet, returning to Europe after D-Day to fight his way across Europe and ending the war as a captain.
@jamesyoung1022
@jamesyoung1022 4 жыл бұрын
The generals never take responsibility for their screw-ups.
@christoperrees2521
@christoperrees2521 4 жыл бұрын
So the great man Ch Winston Churchill said this was justified great talk as long as you are not there all bulls hit talk
@carpecervisiam9366
@carpecervisiam9366 4 жыл бұрын
Not a great fan of either, I am well aware that one saw Australians as cannon fodder & the other was a pedo. Rule Britannia
@Blei1986
@Blei1986 4 жыл бұрын
it wasn't a screw up it was a suicide mission to test for strength and weak spots in enemy defense (and your own units) as grimm as it is, that's what officers have to do. bring 1 in danger (and most likely killed) to make the (rather save) way for the other soldiers to advance.
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 4 жыл бұрын
@Keith Christie Correct!
@tomperkins5657
@tomperkins5657 4 жыл бұрын
@@lespectator4962 "Why didn't they put up a determined struggle?" You're not serious, right?
@whisthpo
@whisthpo 4 жыл бұрын
Another, well researched, in-depth analytic spotlight on one of WWII's milestones. A lesson is most valid, when learned the hard way....
@dhall058
@dhall058 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Felton's videos are so excellent, I don't even mind watching the Simpli-Safe ad!
@gkett001
@gkett001 4 жыл бұрын
My Uncle was in that raid. He was shot in the arm and had it amputated by a German Doctor on a flat bed train car with a stick to bite on, to deal with the pain of the crude surgery. He then clung to life in a prisoner of war camp until a prisoner of war exchange took him out of the war.
@barriewright2857
@barriewright2857 4 жыл бұрын
Orsome ! . My condolences and utmost respect.
@johnnieireland2057
@johnnieireland2057 4 жыл бұрын
holy....that's terrible.....
@kirbyculp3449
@kirbyculp3449 4 жыл бұрын
RESPECT!
@MrC00kieM0nst3r
@MrC00kieM0nst3r 4 жыл бұрын
Heard many stories of 'opposing' docters helping each other out. Very cool.
@johnnieireland2057
@johnnieireland2057 4 жыл бұрын
@das wright I may have to.
@throwabrick
@throwabrick 4 жыл бұрын
A story every Canadian knew when I was growing up. "DIEPPE"... often just said as a single word followed by silence.
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 4 жыл бұрын
Gallipoli, used to have a similar effect here in Australia.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 4 жыл бұрын
Even Bernard Montgomery said it was a decision “that I myself would not agree.” He later burned all his papers regarding Dieppe according to his biographer so that he would not be implicated. British military historian John Keegan called it a “hair-brained enterprise.” Show me one similar amphibious assault of this magnitude during the war where the tactical objective was to learn some lessons.
@Chiller01
@Chiller01 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry,” I should not myself have agreed.” Slightly misquoted old Monty.
@danielb7117
@danielb7117 4 жыл бұрын
@@Chiller01 but ask yourself, did the Americans at Omaha learn anything from Dieppe, I personally think not.
@danielb7117
@danielb7117 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, when I was at Dieppe Canadian War Cemetery there was nobody there. So when a young couple, who were reporters from CHEX Hamilton wanted to ask Canadians 'why they were there?' I was the only young person they could talk to. That was in August of 2005.
@lockjohnston41
@lockjohnston41 4 жыл бұрын
Four Canadian boys did a post war tour of England and Europe. They were sitting in a restaurant in Dieppe discussing whether they would have something to eat or buy passage back to England when the woman running the restaurant walked over and said "No Canadian pays here"
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 4 жыл бұрын
Really nice story
@gegwen7440
@gegwen7440 4 жыл бұрын
@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 Yes it is, just that no doubt a story (would love it to be true)
@MrPancake777
@MrPancake777 4 жыл бұрын
Ge Gwen it’s a nice story but probably not true. Have heard the same thing but with Australians; in Normandy in this version.
@lockjohnston41
@lockjohnston41 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPancake777 Since this was told to me by my brother, who was there, I'll go with him. And who is this Clare person?
@Celedan
@Celedan 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrPancake777 And then they all clapped
@traceycrossman1295
@traceycrossman1295 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was a vet in the second world war. Your videos give an insight into things he was too traumatized to talk about. Bless him and all who had and have to endure war.
@epicdude1944
@epicdude1944 4 жыл бұрын
Dieppe was the single most costly day in the second world war for Canada.. it’s the battle that still haunts us today... never forget those brave souls that day.
@vitis65
@vitis65 3 жыл бұрын
Yank here. Several weeks ago I gave my boss and a coworker a good dressing down after overhearing them ruminating on whether Canada had "ever been in any wars?" I was like "are you kidding me?". Their heads are full of useless sports trivia but of course they know next to nothing about history including that of our brave allies.
@decentish8546
@decentish8546 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitis65 Brutal. Canadians joined both world wars before the Americans did even.
@charliesmith4072
@charliesmith4072 3 жыл бұрын
Without Dieppe the Normandy landings would have met the same fate. Eisenhower, who had no significant part in the Dieppe raid, saw the critical lessons: No invasion without command of the air; absolute secrecy and tactics of deception (inflatable tanks, etc., at Dover); a massive naval bombardment; cooperation with the French resistance.
@noone3272
@noone3272 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitis65 tell them of the war when canda burned down the white House. Greatest moment in canadian history
@vitis65
@vitis65 3 жыл бұрын
@@noone3272 LOL. 1812 was a real Jekyll and Hyde performance by the US military. Embarassing on land (battle of New Orleans excepted) but shocked Britain with many victories at sea and on the Great Lakes.
@partickthompson1164
@partickthompson1164 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Felton I enjoy your video's and your descriptions when it's an audio only recording.I have to say I am so thankful that there are people such as yourself.Not only saving our history but also spreading it to other people and to other generations.Your videos and audio segments.Are very interesting and informative .The way you convey the historical events of world war two is totally captivating.
@Bluewah96
@Bluewah96 4 жыл бұрын
My great Grandfather was a Tank gunner and got his tank knocked out right out of the Gate. He was captured and didn’t get freed till 45
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
They sure don't look happy in the clip.
@Bluewah96
@Bluewah96 4 жыл бұрын
scott left he was happy when Mouthbouton died
@scottleft3672
@scottleft3672 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bluewah96 And the child with him?
@chuckhitter5541
@chuckhitter5541 4 жыл бұрын
Bummer
@eggiwegs
@eggiwegs 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, my great uncle Howard died with the Queens Own Cameron Highlanders that day. Rest easy Howard....
@mooshyboy900honda4
@mooshyboy900honda4 4 жыл бұрын
Lest we forget Rip your great uncle HOWARD Forever may there giving be remembered and honoured by all and respect paid.
@eggiwegs
@eggiwegs 4 жыл бұрын
Phil yes, he is buried there in a mark grave.
@fernandomazarro2551
@fernandomazarro2551 2 жыл бұрын
An amazing video. Mr. Felton is the Master of the Masters telling little known (and/or with unknown details) WW2 stories... Congratulations and thanks so much!
@keithmitchell6548
@keithmitchell6548 4 жыл бұрын
It's very emotional to walk around Dieppe and see the little plaques that indicate the limit of advance or where a Canadian soldier had been killed.
@alanblanes2876
@alanblanes2876 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the best summary of Dieppe I've ever seen. I will share this with the Royal Canadian Legion page on Twitter.
@AmazingPhilippines1
@AmazingPhilippines1 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of all of your research and reporting Mark. Also, thanks to the many who comment and share additional information. Watching from the Philippines.
@HD4all
@HD4all 4 жыл бұрын
Again a great video about a historic event during WW2. In the past I have visited the Museum "Le Mémorial du 19 août 1942" in Dieppe. This video completes for me the picture of this event. @Mark Felton, thanks again!
@gunny1234
@gunny1234 4 жыл бұрын
my Grandfathers' brother was Company Sergeant Major of the Black Watch company that landed on Blue Beach..he was wounded and taken prisoner..spent the rest of the war as a POW..including surviving the winter 'death march' of Allied POW's late in the war.I have walked the same stretch of beach he did that day.Mark can you do an episode on that infamous march..thank you
@chester-chickfunt900
@chester-chickfunt900 2 жыл бұрын
These segments are so well done. Dr. Felton is living the life of a WWII historian...which I had always hoped to be. Best wishes and continued success.
@terryrussell8527
@terryrussell8527 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was one of the Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada (in the green group) that survived that raid. He had mentioned he made it into the town. Neat to see it confirmed. He had multiple bullet wounds from that raid, and tattoos to cover the scars.
@spencerennis9545
@spencerennis9545 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin was in that group and perished that day. Glad to hear your Grandfather made it!
@alanwood5857
@alanwood5857 4 жыл бұрын
Padre John Foote deserves a mention here for his actions - VC winner for Canada.
@Thetruthhurts708
@Thetruthhurts708 4 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention that. I remember in elementary school in the1960s our reading books were actually Canadian and were all about stories from our history. I recall the one about Padre Foote to this day. Sadly, today's schooling is so PC that teaching kids about our military heroes would get teachers fired.
@z3r0_35
@z3r0_35 3 жыл бұрын
I’d also heard somewhere that the Dieppe Raid provided cover for a commando operation that managed to sieze a treasure trove of intel, including a functional enigma machine. One of those alleged to be involved was Ian Flemming, the future author of the James Bond novel series (among others).
@BenWeeks-ca
@BenWeeks-ca 2 жыл бұрын
I heard the Enigma was an objective, that Fleming was involved but the Enigma was not captured. Though in chapter 41 of "A man called intrepid" there is described 2 other secret objectives: rescuing captured French intelligence chiefs and capturing the latest german radar technology. Britain's tech was ahead of Germany's but command didn't know what Germany's capability was. Two british radar experts joined in the raid and had body guards who were ordered to shoot the experts if they were at risk of capture.
@thedwightguy
@thedwightguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenWeeks-ca small world. my buddies uncle was born in Mexico and is now back in Canada. His father worked for Intrepid in Mexico!!
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Z3r0, yes , that's what they were after, & the operation included Bond author Ian Fleming. I'm curious, did they actually get it?
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Ben Weeks, thanks so much for your info, you answered one my questions( about the Enigma machine)
@z3r0_35
@z3r0_35 Жыл бұрын
@@robertbruce1887 I believe they did get SOMETHING, but maybe not an intact machine.
@markrowley2739
@markrowley2739 4 жыл бұрын
Once upon a time videos as informative as this was the staple programming of the History channel
@Surv1ve_Thrive
@Surv1ve_Thrive 4 жыл бұрын
Best wishes to Canadians from the British. You are respected and welcomed here. 🇨🇦. 🇬🇧
@PurpleCat9794
@PurpleCat9794 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. It means a lot to Canadians, especially those who lost their loved ones that their sacrifices are not forgotten.
@albertaaardvark966
@albertaaardvark966 4 жыл бұрын
Always interesting and informative. Bonus: You pronounced Saskatchewan and Calgary correctly, just for that this deserves a like.
@MarkFeltonProductions
@MarkFeltonProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I've even been to Calgary!
@cgaccount3669
@cgaccount3669 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkFeltonProductions Hello from Calgary! Love your videos!
@negativeindustrial
@negativeindustrial 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Saskatchewan just pronounced exactly like it’s spelled? Canadians I know pronounce it like that, anyway.
@JayM409
@JayM409 4 жыл бұрын
Calgarians pronounce it Calgree. Both my Mom and Dad were born there.
@Willysmb44
@Willysmb44 4 жыл бұрын
Many years ago, I met a Ranger veteran from this landing. He said the most annoying part of the whole thing was even back then, nobody believed him when he said he did a landing in France that early.
@stephenmcdonald664
@stephenmcdonald664 7 ай бұрын
Thank you to Mark Felton Productions for posting this.
@tomg5187
@tomg5187 4 жыл бұрын
What a tragedy, i’m so pleased the memory is bring kept alive! I love how i’m learning so much more than i ever did at school from THIS excellent channel! Subscribed!!!
@robinblitz5213
@robinblitz5213 4 жыл бұрын
My dad was on that bloody raid,luckily his L/c never made it on to the beach He commanded the Black Watch mortor platoon
@patb5266
@patb5266 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you fo sharing.
@leemichael2154
@leemichael2154 4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was black watch
@adamrichardson6821
@adamrichardson6821 8 ай бұрын
My uncle Ken Richardson went in with the Royal Marines, got ashore, and had to swim back out to sea. He was picked up by a destroyer. Some of his experiences are recounted in the book The Dieppe Raid, by Robin Neillands. He continued to serve with No. 40 Royal Marine Commando until being severely wounded in Italy at the battle of Termoli in 1943, which knocked him out of the war. He lived to the age of 92, raising a family in Kilmarnock. One of the finest men I've ever known, he is greatly missed by the family. I spent Remembrance Day with him at his home in 2011, which is one of my fondest memories.
@krwood8371
@krwood8371 4 жыл бұрын
great video. my great uncle was at Dieppe with the South Saskatchewan Regiment. im suprised you didnt tell the story of the other VC from that day. John Foote, the Royal Hamilton Light Infantrys chaplain spent the battle on the beach tending to the wounded and dying. then during the evac picked up a bren gun an repeatedly fired it over the heads of the german defenders to provide covering fire. he made it aboard a landing craft but decided to climb over the side swim ashore and surrender so that he could continue to help his men.
@chrisbrandenburg1701a
@chrisbrandenburg1701a 4 жыл бұрын
My grandpa was at dieppe as well.south saskatchewan regiment.private arthur howes.the bravest man i ever knew
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
krwood83: good of you to mention Chaplain John Foote, a hero in the true sense of the word.
@joshthomas-moore2656
@joshthomas-moore2656 4 жыл бұрын
Their was a Canadian documentary called "Dieppe uncovered" which said that Ian Fleming the writer of James Bond made a unit called 30th Assault Unit to go in with the landing to steal an enigma machine.
@chaz8758
@chaz8758 4 жыл бұрын
The unit already existed and it did small raids or participated on larger raids with the aim of identifying any crypto or intelligence documents it could. One documentary tried to claim the sole reason for the Dieppe raid was to get an enigma machine to decode subs, despite no subs operating from there so it's enigma would be an older outdated an incompatible version.
@DavidTokio
@DavidTokio 4 жыл бұрын
Just found you 2 weeks ago and love your work..Very informative in all of your videos which are usually around 15 minutes which is enough to keep us watching and on to the next one.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 жыл бұрын
Dieppe was one of my country's Finest Hours. Despite how horribly it was planned, we still fought valiantly on those beaches. And it is true, that the lessons learned paved for final victory in 1945. On a separate note, I appreciate your use of stabilization of the historical footage, Mark. I didn't realize how much easier to see the intricacies of the footage with it.
@DieterRahm1845
@DieterRahm1845 4 жыл бұрын
Paved the road to final victory? In which way exactly? I only see a huge defeat.
@jasonweaver6524
@jasonweaver6524 4 жыл бұрын
@The legacy. The road to victory in 1945 was paved by a gigantic superiority of Allied military hardware, troops and in particular by the Soviet army, not by a failed landing in Dieppe.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonweaver6524 Yes and no. I suspect casualties would been far greater if not for the lessons learned in Dieppe. Greater to the point where the war could have dragged on for a few years longer. Long enough that, perhaps, Germany would have developed the nuclear bomb. Or long enough that the Allies sued for peace.
@michaelpalmer937
@michaelpalmer937 4 жыл бұрын
My uncle Thomas Sartain was on that raid (British commando )..he spent 2-1/2 yrs as a a POW in Austria.. RIP to all of them . English Mik
@Robotdad474
@Robotdad474 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t ever get enough of this channel
@TheTruePopeFrancis
@TheTruePopeFrancis 4 жыл бұрын
“Dieppe - How Not To D-Day”
@madwolf0966
@madwolf0966 4 жыл бұрын
MathiasJames2002 how not to Amphibious Landing/Assult
@howardchambers9679
@howardchambers9679 4 жыл бұрын
@@madwolf0966 they didn't make the same mistake n D-day. Steel tracks on shingle. Not a good combination. D-day beaches were tested for blue clay as well.
@jasonmickey1613
@jasonmickey1613 4 жыл бұрын
Well said!!
@thebeagles2025
@thebeagles2025 4 жыл бұрын
wrong. My father was at Dieppe. Royal Regiment of Canada. He landed at Blue Beach. 97% casualties. He was wounded and spent 2 years, 11 months and 1 day in Stalag 9C. The official history of the RRC says he was one of three Canadian enlisted men who went out the night of the Great Escape. A few years before he passed away, I asked him if he had any regrets. He said, "None. What they learned at Dieppe saved lives at Normandy."
@notlikely4468
@notlikely4468 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebeagles2025 Oddly..."they" learned very different lessons The Allies learned that amphibious assaults into built up areas were a poor strategy The Germans learned that the only way to secure a beachhead was to capture a useable port
@danielb7117
@danielb7117 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You for this video Dr. Felton, it was nicely done. In 2012 I was lucky enough to meet the driver of Churchill Tank 9, he was a museum usher/volunteer at The Museum of The Regiments in Calgary Alberta. Very interesting fellow. A very neat museum in Canada, which at that time was staffed by WW2 veterans and some volunteers. Sadly, when I was there the museum was fairly empty. Although, I found that good, as it gave me a chance to speak with the veterans personally. On an interesting note Maj. General Roberts was from a small Manitoba town just North from my hometown. The town just to the West of Pipestone, named Reston has a fellow who very well may have been the first Canadian KIA of WW2 as he was killed serving with the RAF when they attacked the Heligoland in Dec. 1939. Squadron Leader Archibald Guthrie (his name is the second name on the Runnymede Memorial, if I recall correctly).
@brendanr.ogorman3586
@brendanr.ogorman3586 4 жыл бұрын
Mark, thank you. As usual, it was an EXCELLENT documentary. It was (and continues to be) a very dark day for us Canadians. At some point you may wish to add an addendum to this, concerning the hundreds of Canadian troops who died in cattle cars enroute to their POW camps. Again, very well done - Bravo Zulu!
@javiervonsydow
@javiervonsydow 4 жыл бұрын
The footage is impressive; is it really all from the raid? I'm very interested to know; it's really rare and highly testimonial footage and that'd be an amazing feat of Mr Felton, for which I'm very grateful. The same goes for the concise and succinct explanation, typical of Mr Felton as well. We are all here very much indebted to his love and professionalism in putting this work out.
@jeffkeith637
@jeffkeith637 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering exactly the same thing - some of it seems footage that has been seen countless times, but much seemed unique.
@rinscheida
@rinscheida 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of it I’ve seen many times before, but some of the pics of the tanks disabled on the beaches I haven’t
@kurgisempyrion6125
@kurgisempyrion6125 4 жыл бұрын
@suspicionofdeceit Pretty sure the tank footage is directly taken from the German propaganda film made after the raid had failed for obvious purposes. The combat footage not sure about
@xGoodOldSmurfehx
@xGoodOldSmurfehx 4 жыл бұрын
i believe much of it does come from the Dieppe raid indeed, many of these films can be accessed from the Canadian archives of war, in fact if you check the series of documentary films "Canada At War" you will find nearly all of these films in the documentary (and especially the Dieppe raid)
@ant7936
@ant7936 4 жыл бұрын
And where could those brave men have gone, if they hadn't been cornered? Utterly futile waste of young lives and material to satisfy the egos of politicians and war leaders.
@somebloke13
@somebloke13 4 жыл бұрын
The loss of life was horrific, but it may have saved lives on D Day, so a difficult choice. Not a decision I'd want to make...
@leemichael2154
@leemichael2154 4 жыл бұрын
This was war and it taught the allies not to try and take an enemy port so strongly fortified thus leading to the decision to land on the calvados coast , sometimes the right decision is taken by the wrong reasons, but very brutal for the young men carrying out the assault on Dieppe
@TheArchaos
@TheArchaos 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that it was a pointless waste of human life but the lessons learned were indeed crucial to the invasion of Normandy 2 years later. I'd like to add there must have been a way to artificially create a scenario like D-Day under controlled conditions somewhere else on the coast of England or America rather than jumping in with both feet.
@ant7936
@ant7936 4 жыл бұрын
@david edbrooke-coffin So that's ok then, is it? Perhaps that's why we haven't learned peace.
@robertfrench2807
@robertfrench2807 4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Roberts unfortunately as a race we will never learn peace
@Carlos-nq7up
@Carlos-nq7up 3 жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the best channels on KZbin. 👍
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
My father told me that the Germans showed the film of the Dieppe landing and the unfolding disaster full of glee saying that there was no chance, the Allies would get anywhere if they tried again. Perhaps, they became over confident after this debacle.
@angelonunez8555
@angelonunez8555 4 жыл бұрын
No, the Germans didn't become overconfident. The German commander in France, von Rundstedt, said "He (referring to the Allies) will not do it this way a second time". The German command also would have been well aware of the fact that when an invasion (as opposed to a raid) was undertaken, the American contribution would be considerably more than the 50 Rangers who landed at Dieppe. The Germans didn't get off lightly on this day, the army losing over 300 KIA, which implies that wherever the Canadians and Commandos were able to get off the beach and engage the enemy in close combat, they more than held their own, as only a relatively small number of those Germans killed would have been the work of the RN and the RAF, which made only minor contributions to the ground fighting when compared to what was to come on June 6, 1944. The film which is refered to would clearly have been made for propaganda purposes, to re-assure the citizenry in Germany that everything was completely under control in the west.
@panzerofthelake506
@panzerofthelake506 4 жыл бұрын
@wyomarine no the Germans concentrated their forces near Calais and not Normandy. The raf and USAF prevented the Germans reinforcing the Norman garrison so you are the blithering idiot here.
@hoatattis7283
@hoatattis7283 4 жыл бұрын
@wyomarine It did not nearly work at Omaha the rest got ashore quite well
@hoatattis7283
@hoatattis7283 4 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Challis Guderian was not on good terms with Hitler by DDay
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelonunez8555 Yes, it would have been a propaganda film and I imagine the sequences we see now are taken from it- having had the propaganda and other added aspects removed. We often see this film shown in other inappropriate documentaries not connected to the Dieppe raid.
@cryptickaoz9494
@cryptickaoz9494 4 жыл бұрын
Us Canadians don't get enough recognition for what our men and women did in both wars. We had some of the hardest battles thrown our way. I am extremely proud to be Canadian
@kane357lynch
@kane357lynch 3 жыл бұрын
Except on d day where americans got the most defended beach. Also we lost more men, and our battles weren't so hard due to training and materials.
@tomasg851
@tomasg851 3 жыл бұрын
@@kane357lynch actually Juno was best defended by faaar, you guys bungled it at Omaha while we took Juno and went farther then anyone despite it
@walterthecat2145
@walterthecat2145 Жыл бұрын
@@kane357lynch What happened after the landing in Caen?
@NastyNate18B
@NastyNate18B Жыл бұрын
​@tomasg851 That's so far from the truth it should be a crime 😂 Omaha is known to be the hardest, most defensible beach involved in the landings. One quick Google search would clear that up for you. Not to mention 3rd Canadian Division was on Omaha and lost over 80%. Before you go claiming it was blundered, let's see you invade a fortified position. Juno, being the 2nd easiest beach ahead of Utah, Didn't even require a single Division. Do the math.
@vacciniumaugustifolium1420
@vacciniumaugustifolium1420 4 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather and his brother ( both french Canadian ) fought during that raid, both survived but one was lost in battle for a few days but finally reapered ( in a hospital I guess ). Never had the chance to meet them but my grandmother told us about how they never been the same after.
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Vaccinium, I can certainly understand why they would never be the same afterwards.
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 4 жыл бұрын
In the mid-90s, Bell Canada ran an ad where an elderly man gets an unexpected call from a grandson, back-packing in France. "How are the girls in Paris?" asks gramps. "I'm not in Paris, Grandad... I'm in Dieppe" The kid pauses, alone on a beach of small black stones. Finally, "I just wanted to say...thank you." (STILL brings a tear)
@jjt1093
@jjt1093 4 жыл бұрын
I remember that can find it on youtube
@fritzkralle4689
@fritzkralle4689 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for what? For crossing the Atlantic ocean to kill Germans? For helping to bring Bolshevism and terror to all of East Europe? He should be ashamed.
@timsullivan4566
@timsullivan4566 4 жыл бұрын
@@fritzkralle4689 You are the one who should be ashamed for your absurd perspective.
@fritzkralle4689
@fritzkralle4689 4 жыл бұрын
@@timsullivan4566 Granddad helped the bolshevics to cover all of eastern Europe with a shroud of terror and helped US and England to mass murder German kids in the cities. I would have killed myself in grandpa's position.
@islandlife6591
@islandlife6591 4 жыл бұрын
@@timsullivan4566 What is absurd is that theses soldiers were sent to the slaughterhouse, so that Canadian politicians could say “look we are doing something”
@stevenweaver3386
@stevenweaver3386 4 жыл бұрын
My mom and dad were teens in Hamilton during the war. Dad said the Hamilton Spectator had page after black-edged page of casualties, after the raid. Many of the men were dads, uncles and older brothers of his school friends.
@nosignal88
@nosignal88 3 жыл бұрын
As a student of history, thank you ever so much Dr Felton for all of your contributions to the field.
@stevewright8204
@stevewright8204 4 жыл бұрын
My father was in this battle, he was on M/L,s he never went into details apart from a disaster,but a learning curve for D day,he spoke fondly of the Canadian lads
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Steve Wright, thank you for passing that on.
@johnmcclellan9020
@johnmcclellan9020 3 жыл бұрын
I'm Canadian and my father fought in this war. Not a good day for Canada but we had to fight for us all.
@blueridger28
@blueridger28 3 жыл бұрын
From a US infantry soldier, much respect to the Canadian fighters!
@attilakonkoly4329
@attilakonkoly4329 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You Canada ! All respect for your heros!
@SeaJayBelfast
@SeaJayBelfast 3 жыл бұрын
Aye, my grandad (Commando from Belfast) said little about that day, except that the Canadians were tough as hell and were sacrificed by upperclass Englishmen. The way he spoke so highly of Canadian soldiers has always stuck with me.
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Attilla & Blueridge28, thank you so much for your comments appreciating Can
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Attilla & Blueridge28, thanks for your appreciative comments about Canada's participation in WW2. Cheers
@angelvillamor4838
@angelvillamor4838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching me something about these landings, which I never knew of before today. Congratulations Mr Felton on a fantastic KZbin Channel.
@bartbley1269
@bartbley1269 4 жыл бұрын
A relative of mine was involved with this action and was wounded . John Edmonson . He helped write a book about it . Canadians baptism of fire as my dad said a WWII vet
@lib556
@lib556 4 жыл бұрын
Canadian baptisms of fire were Hong Kong Christmas 41 and our pilots fighting in the Battle of Britain. Admittedly Dieppe was of a higher scale.
@vernonmcphee6746
@vernonmcphee6746 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Sanders If I remember a book I read (The Regiment by Farley Mowat) about the Hasty P's some of them were sent to Brittany about the same time as Dunkirk but manege to be evacuated in time.
@lib556
@lib556 4 жыл бұрын
@Tom Sanders In fact, IIRC, elements of or the bulk of 1st Canadian Div were sent into France after Dunkirk but were withdrawn when France was essentially 'written off'.
@MrChronicpayne
@MrChronicpayne 2 жыл бұрын
My great uncle fought and died on Dieppe with the RHLI. He never saw his 19th birthday. So much arrogance from higher ups ended up throwing these eager young men into a wood chipper... still hurts to this day. Someday I hope to go visit him at Bologne-sur-Mer.
@cowgoesmoo3850
@cowgoesmoo3850 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about not being on KZbin for a while, is all the uploads get to watch by Mark.
@ryandaly3948
@ryandaly3948 3 жыл бұрын
My Grandmothers cousin fought in Dieppe, my Grandfather was also a veteran and fought with the First Canadian Division, he told me every winter her cousin would have to go the Dr. and get his armpit drained because he had a piece of shrapnel in his side that they couldn’t get out or it would kill him, it would get infected every winter and had to be drained.
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Ryan Daly, sad to hear your Grandmother's cousin had to suffer the rest of his life with that war injury.
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 4 жыл бұрын
G'day Mark, Thanks for your inspired overview of the tragic Dieppe raid. My readings on Op. Jubilee, over the years, not only angers me but also leaves me in the quandary of either too few to blame or too many to take responsibility for the incredible slaughter of Allied fighting men. Although nowhere near the obscene haste of less than 10 days’ notice of Op. Market Garden; Dieppe was pushed along too quickly by the RAF's desire to destroy Luftwaffe fighters that hampered the bombing of occupied Europe; and, as you pointed out, they were a “force without a mission” at August 1942. This ill-fated urgency was also expressed by Mountbatten, Churchill and, initially The Canadian government. But what really gave the game away were the devious actions of French double-agents gaining operational information from Britain. The part I don't fathom here is that MI5's, highly successful, 'Double Cross' operation, established in January 1941, had the capability to feed misinformation to the Nazis in Germany and France. Surely, one of the XX agents could have sniffed out traitors in the French resistance. Or, other security services could have kept a closer eye on the information being sent to the British and French agents on the ground in France. One also has to ask what were Bletchley Park's intercepts of German troop movements prior to the Dieppe fiasco. It would have been unusual for Station X to miss a large Nazi troop movement to such a specific area of the North West Coast of France. One can totally understand Canadian hatred of Mountbatten, and Churchill after the fact of Dieppe, although, I still think the all 'round lack of good intelligence is probably the root cause for this sorry page in Canadian and British military history. For some, it was all well and good to say that without the failure of Dieppe that D-Day could have been a disaster; but then the planning of every conceivable aspect of that mammoth operation, that took nearly 3 years, could never be compared to Op Jubilee. It’s probable that the Allies learned more from the invasions of Sicily and Italy that aided D-Day. Another great video, Mark. Thank you. Cheers, BH
@giefg551
@giefg551 4 жыл бұрын
well said.
@unclestuka8543
@unclestuka8543 2 жыл бұрын
In operation Market Garden an SS division was "resting" in the area. Why the hell wasn't this picked up by Bletchley. It came as a surprise to the Para's who landed amongst them.
@BillHalliwell
@BillHalliwell 2 жыл бұрын
​@@unclestuka8543 ​ G'day Uncle, You've hit upon a very interesting point; one I've looked at in the past. Sorry, this answer isn't short. In the ridiculously small space of time allocated to plan, then execute, Operation Market Garden (between 7 and 10 days, depending on who you read) two individual commanders stand out for possible blame. Firstly, there was Lt.Gen 'Boy' Browning who was the commander of British airborne forces, and whom had been given overall command of the airborne facet of Market Garden. He was fiercely opposed by two US generals (Brereton & Ridgeway) who commanded US airborne forces and who were, in fact, junior to Browning's rank and position. In general terms, US commanders looked down upon General Browning because Britain only had one division in Market Garden and the US had two divisions (82nd & 101st). The timing involved in this process moved too quickly for any German opposing force to be aware of what was coming so, Bletchley Park had no German traffic to intercept on this mission, still in its brief planning stage. Also, once the logistics of Market Garden got underway, most of the forces involved were in lockdown and there was little to no chance of German agents catching wind of what was about to happen. There were also a few photographic sorties flown by the RAF that did confirm there were German forces in the region but no accurate indication of their numbers. However, there was a small smattering of wireless traffic from the Dutch resistance on the placement of German forces. The first real hint of problems came from US General Gavin's HQ who got a report from G2 (Intelligence) at SHAEF that there were "1000 tanks reported in the forest of Reichswald (E85) in Holland on 8 September, presumably a pool for refitting Panzer Divisions." This message was dated 13th September. It must be noted that the discovery, via the Dutch resistance, was in addition to the two SS Panzer Divisions in the area that the British and US planners knew about. Herein lies the huge 'hunt for the blame' of Market Garden. Many say that Montgomery knew of these SS tank divisions and decided that Allied forces could avoid them and race to the bridges before the Germans could react and attack or then counter attack. This, by the way, seems to fit into 'Monty's' character. In the North African campaign 'Monty' refused to move until he had sufficient forces and equipment. Here, in Europe, 'Monty' had a much greater sense of urgency and, one must add, more perceived competition from the Americans and other British Generals. Also, the stupid rumor of "Berlin by Christmas" and an assumed end of the war was consuming both US and British troops; egged on by the print and radio media who had caught wind of this hint of an 'early' end of hostilities. The main reason that 'Boy' Browning cops most of the flak over Market Garden is because, like US General Gavin, Browning knew about the extra "1000 tanks" in the area and failed to use this information to argue for a delay while a better intelligence picture of the battle zone could be gained, as he should have done. But, in Browning's defence, one must remember that Montgomery's unrealistic view was that this was a huge tank servicing area and that most of the tanks there would be out of commission. The most accurate contender for much of the blame has to go to the RAF and the USAAF who simply refused to drop all the airborne forces in one or two days; claiming the aircrews would be too tired and that the aircraft would need servicing in between drops. They would only agree to do one drop per day. The total amount of aircraft allocated to this hasty plan simply were not sufficient to get the job done quickly. Thus robbing Allied forces a much greater chance of success. The Polish forces weren't dropped till day 5 of the operation. Way too late to affect the outcome of the battle. After the fact of the ultimate route of the Allies: sadly, the commander of Polish airborne forces was sacked; the main British forces had been forced to fight separately and it was only then that the scramble to avoid carrying the entire blame for this monumental failure and loss of life truly began. As was usual, Montgomery seemed impervious to tactical blame during the war. Churchill, ever eager never to damage the alliance with the Americans saw to it that the scale of the debacle of Operation Market garden was swiftly swept under the carpet. On the 'carpet' that was left; there was General 'Boy' Browning; the last man standing. Personally, I believe that 'Monty' and even Eisenhower should have carried the blame. Both senior leaders should have known that the size of the endeavour was far too big to be properly planned and executed in around a week. Eisenhower could have stopped this operation with one letter and some phone calls. Churchill and Browning had served in the same WW1 Regiment and had become good friends. A phone call from Browning to Number Ten might have changed the planning schedule. But he never made that call. Many books have been written on this topic and Mead's book on Browning is a good place to start. So, Uncle, Bletchley Park never got a chance to warn anyone because they were like the planners; they didn't have a clue what was really going on... Cheers, Bill H.
@unclestuka8543
@unclestuka8543 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillHalliwell Thank you Bill for a really comprehensive explaination of M.G. In my view Ike should carry the can for the debacle, as someone said, it was a bridge too far. So as overall supremo He should have stopped it. I never did like Ike's broad front strategy. if the western Allies had adopted blitzkrieg tactics with a massive armoured spearhead with heavy bombers, they would have arrived in Berlin for Christmas. German army men always wondered why this tactic was not adopted. But that's another story. Again many thanks. Uncle
@robertbruce1887
@robertbruce1887 Жыл бұрын
Dear Bill Halliwell: thank you for sending such a thorough & informative comment.
@gerbear1907
@gerbear1907 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Felton, I enjoy your videos very much. I learn information about WWII history I was not aware of, or your videos expand greatly on what I thought I knew. Thank You.
@brianpeters7847
@brianpeters7847 4 жыл бұрын
I knew some of the old guys who were on this raid.. they would talk about at the Legion Hall over beer and cigarettes.. their memories of the raid was incredible.. they all thought they would die that day and they were young men..
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound 4 жыл бұрын
Sacrificial lambs to the slaughter, is how that entire event looks.
@larrysimpson6135
@larrysimpson6135 4 жыл бұрын
Robert, what are you smoking? And where can I get some? 😄😄😄😄😄😄
@MorrowMatty
@MorrowMatty 4 жыл бұрын
Churchill: "Oh God its Gallipoli all over again"!
@readhistory2023
@readhistory2023 4 жыл бұрын
To give you a idea of how limited their intell was back then they were probably using tourism maps for their battlefield maps vs a contour map and the situation was far more desperate than you give credit for. You know they won the war. The Brits during WW2 had no such certainty, so they gambled. They lost.
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 4 жыл бұрын
Same as the "soft underbelly of Europe". The Poles, Indians, Canadians and Japanese-Americans often got the worst assignments. I have a strong feeling they knew it also.
@ZacharyDarkes
@ZacharyDarkes 4 жыл бұрын
The British Empire always treated it's Canadian troops like this no respect for Canadian lives
@neilnacchio9647
@neilnacchio9647 4 жыл бұрын
All I want to do is watch your videos during quarantine over and over again.
@CitizenSnips69
@CitizenSnips69 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the sponsorship Mark!!
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