The Power Company Charged me $52,000 for this!!

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8 ай бұрын

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@usalaxbro11
@usalaxbro11 8 ай бұрын
As an electrician, you’re completely right in this is exactly how we prep for wire pulls. String and vacuum. Never tried vacuuming mule tape directly but cool to know it’s possible. Also side note: mule tape has measurement markings printed the entire length. So you didn’t have to pull the mule tape out to measure. Simple subtract the number at the end to where your mark was. But 10/10
@jonathanwilliams4501
@jonathanwilliams4501 8 ай бұрын
You have never used a "rat" with jet line?
@jdsparky288
@jdsparky288 8 ай бұрын
You can use two vacuums of the same CFM rating and double yours suction power too. I have two old dewalt battery/AC combo vacs that I use in tandem and they work great. Simply plug the suction end of the second vac into the exhaust of the first vac. The key is making sure they’re identical vacs or have the same CFM. I’ve pulled mule tape 500+ feet with them on battery power and no issues where one by itself wouldn’t quite do the trick on 4” conduit
@MGower4465
@MGower4465 8 ай бұрын
You mean, like, do math???
@charlesemmer8856
@charlesemmer8856 8 ай бұрын
I have used this method many times myself. After you have the pull length it is easier to calculate the wire needed for the run.
@allenandtammyterwilliger1201
@allenandtammyterwilliger1201 8 ай бұрын
I've done this many times but with 6"pipe using a commercial compressor and a mouse you don't want to be close to the pipe when the mouse comes through or you can get very wet as it will spray about 10 ft in the air
@TgWags69
@TgWags69 8 ай бұрын
Hey Matt. If you feel the electric company overcharged, you can open up a claim with the Pennsylvania Utility Commission. They are the agency put in place to protect the consumers from predatory practices of the utilities. I've had to open claims against National fuel a couple times for doing estimated final readings when tenants moved out. One time even when the gas was shut off they tried to stick me with a $300 bill. Anyways, it's free and if they charged for work that you already accomplished on your own as part of the job it may well be worth it.
@kirdot2011
@kirdot2011 8 ай бұрын
He was supposed to sue them
@johnhouchins3156
@johnhouchins3156 8 ай бұрын
Having a career with a state regulated utility, I can assure you that many of those costs and fees charged were set by the regulating body itself. Much is considered, including future consumption. When you get out into the network, no, you're not going to get to do any of the wire work. Everything will be done and determined by the utiliy because they're legally on the hook for everything.
@braydenbelt456
@braydenbelt456 8 ай бұрын
@@johnhouchins3156 Then I feel for the price they’re charging they should’ve laid all the conduit. For hell sake they basically had their hand held for them, all they had to do was the bare minimum. Total BS
@KenFullman
@KenFullman 8 ай бұрын
If I had £52,000 to spare I'd totally use it to invest in an "off grid" solution. He's still going to have to pay regular bills and a large part of that charge will be for infrastucture that he has already paid for outright.
@DietzmanLTD
@DietzmanLTD 8 ай бұрын
Everybody wants to 'feel' like this is a ton of money for the task. I'm in California. I've done dozens of these transformer runs for utility connection. I've cleaned up every site after the utility AND never seen one under $35k. We had a 1/2 mile run for 2 homes, rn tandem 3" PVC to a pad mount and paid just under $100k.
@user-eg9ov1zl9p
@user-eg9ov1zl9p 5 ай бұрын
My grandmother recalled when electricity was brought to their farm in Chemung, NY in the Southern Tier. The electric company ran a free line on a few poles to the house but only if they bought two appliances. The got one electric light and a toaster. Later, small fractional horsepower electric motors revolutionized the farm in many ways. It was a huge important change.
@gastonbell108
@gastonbell108 2 ай бұрын
Lots of folks in Tioga Center who still don't have electricity to this day... course, that's because they don't pay their electric bills. 🤣
@texan2560
@texan2560 7 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience with the power company. They wanted 80K to pull a few poles to my remote house. I told them to f*** off and I installed solar. Best decision I ever made.
@WarrenLacefield
@WarrenLacefield 5 ай бұрын
I don't know for sure, but there may be more to it than that. The power company may incur liabilities way into the future, caring for easements, restoring power after some unforeseeable but statistically likely outage, maybe even more serious potential issues, things that could cost way more than the supplies and labor to run the line. I would imagine they just don't want to serve remote customers. Nowadays, fortunately you have much better options with solar and batteries, maybe even in some places geo-thermal ... and, as far as the power is concerned .. well, it isn't and you are on your own.
@scottsthaname1
@scottsthaname1 5 ай бұрын
$52000 would buy enough solar and batteries to power him for a week without sun...🤷‍♂️
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 5 ай бұрын
Yeah after he said he went 52k for them to just charge him an electric bill. I was thinking, he could build a whole solar farm for that cash and have the company pay him! Cannot believe he accepted their very inflated deal.
@WesleyChuen
@WesleyChuen 5 ай бұрын
Very nice! When I start watching the video, I was thinking the exact same thing! For 52K, you can have a hack out of solar/wind and battery set up!
@Jeepy842000
@Jeepy842000 4 ай бұрын
Got to love monopolies
@asarand
@asarand 8 ай бұрын
I will be watching this on my television. Just wanted to put in a comment and say that $52,000 is a lot to pay. Especially given that you did the majority of the work preparing the trench.
@djreese1885
@djreese1885 8 ай бұрын
Typical town/city/government type company to bend ya over and take all your money for minimal work. Very sad and disgusting. Especially like you said he did most of the damn work
@williamevans6522
@williamevans6522 8 ай бұрын
1/ 2mile of copper ain't cheap.
@nicholas4839
@nicholas4839 8 ай бұрын
Who cares what you're watching this video on
@objektivone3209
@objektivone3209 8 ай бұрын
​@@nicholas4839Because the video is so dang well made.
@objektivone3209
@objektivone3209 8 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@ThatPartsGuy
@ThatPartsGuy 8 ай бұрын
There's no denying it. Power company will always get theirs!
@tetedur377
@tetedur377 8 ай бұрын
This is what happens when the Goobernment creates/allows a public utility to have a monopoly stranglehold on a geographic region.
@GlobalistJuice
@GlobalistJuice 8 ай бұрын
Just wait until everyone and their brother have the electric company in high demand to install their automobile battery recharge stations - it will be just one more checkmark on the long list of "progressivism" and their love of bending-you-over via state sponsored extortion!👍
@212caboose
@212caboose 8 ай бұрын
@@tetedur377 ^^THIS^^ Remember kids: Monopoly's are okay, as long as the gov't (and it's subsidiaries) is the one benefiting from it.
@MattyEngland
@MattyEngland 8 ай бұрын
All about the shekels. Some of those Israeli shareholders still haven't gold plated their driveways 😢😢 Gravel is NOT befitting of gods chosen people.
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz 8 ай бұрын
​​@@tetedur377 not sure private monopolies are any better... See the absolute state of the water utilities here in the UK. The issue is a lack of regulation and oversight. I don't care if a utility is public or private, provided it's held accountable to the public, and our money is being used on investment, not inflated shareholder bonuses.
@thomasbarrett3175
@thomasbarrett3175 7 ай бұрын
In the 80s, someone at work was selling shirts that said, "VEPCO has Virginia by the bulbs". It wasn't long before the company banned wearing those to work.
@Molon_Labe1776
@Molon_Labe1776 3 ай бұрын
Now they have 'Dominion' of the state.
@TrashwareArt
@TrashwareArt 3 ай бұрын
I pay $250 a month powerbill for a 500 sq ft apartment
@CrypidLore
@CrypidLore 3 ай бұрын
@@TrashwareArt Might want to have them check your meter, that seems extortionately high.
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 3 ай бұрын
@@TrashwareArt yeah, you gotta figure out whats wrong there.
@randyjackson2127
@randyjackson2127 7 ай бұрын
Mr. Creek, you are living the dream. I’m an equipment operator turned foreman in the gold mining industry in rural Nevada. Seeing all this vintage equipment saved and used warms my heart, especially the old shovels and dozers. I think that’s 52K well spent to be able to continue work on what is shaping up to be an incredible property.
@jimhill5472
@jimhill5472 8 ай бұрын
You should make a shadow box to hang on shop wall with power company's needle nose pliers in it with an engraved brass plate that has date you got power and maybe "worlds most expensive pliers" with their $52,000 cost. I am sure it would give anyone seeing it a chuckle.....and it could be seen in your videos when filming in shop. Great channel!
@Golgi-Gyges
@Golgi-Gyges 8 ай бұрын
Ha!
@GeminiWoods
@GeminiWoods 8 ай бұрын
I like that idea
@charlesroberts6965
@charlesroberts6965 8 ай бұрын
My exact thoughts...but extremely happy for you and the end of this ordeal.
@Curtislow2
@Curtislow2 8 ай бұрын
I'D FRAME THOSE " $52,000 pliers".
@derschwartzadder
@derschwartzadder 8 ай бұрын
It's the electricity to light they pliers that cost 52k. Not the pliers
@chrisellertson3352
@chrisellertson3352 8 ай бұрын
I was a tradesman welding in oil and gas industry, for locals and farmers. It does not matter what I did or where I did it I cleaned up after and did not leave a thing behind and for 52000.00 there should not be a speck left behind. Great job Matt and congrats on an ever expanding work space. I appreciate your ethic and the integrity of your channel! All the best in the season up and coming!
@Timothy-lb2vr
@Timothy-lb2vr 8 ай бұрын
Public utilities are legal monopoly’s. The few humans that operate a monopoly become wealthy and politically powerful. The reason they don’t include the copper wire is that copper itself is a commodity and subject to the open market regarding its pricing. Monopolies hate dealing with uncontrolled open market stuff any more than they have to. As you found out while trying to get power to your work shop. They feel what their customers (you) have to say about their golden goose monopoly is not worth their time, which by the way they include in their billing at open market pricing.
@bsg2580
@bsg2580 8 ай бұрын
For $26,000 an hour it could’ve been cleaner
@johndenton5555
@johndenton5555 8 ай бұрын
We worked in Drs offices, clinics & hospitals, all the trades would leave us a mess to clean up, the rooms floors were there trash cans - though one was left in the room PROMINENTLY MARKED 'TRASH' . They always appreciated that whenever we worked, no matter how much crud and trash was generated, when we left, their rooms were spic & span, floors cleaned, and equipment wiped down to hospital sanitary specs. At our hourly or daily rates, we could not afford to do less than 'turn key' whether install, repair, or periodic maintenance. I used to joke with new guys they were training to become the highest paid janitors in the US.
@garrydonnelly6433
@garrydonnelly6433 8 ай бұрын
What a shame that this situation has been let develop and continue to rip people off, especially nice folks like Matt.
@artm5294
@artm5294 8 ай бұрын
Did the $52,000 include the copper wire inside the conduit ?
@ngrader
@ngrader 5 ай бұрын
30:35 When you said 'sketchy' earlier. I didn't realized the plug you had on there. LOL.
@ClearComplexity
@ClearComplexity 7 ай бұрын
We dinged a poorly placed meter in our drive way a bit back, and they gladly sent 2 trucks and 3 guys to replace the meter housing (some light tin metal that I could have bent back, zero damage to the meter or wiring) and swap the meter over in 10 minutes, proceed to sit in the driveway for another 20 or 30, then leave and bill us for 1200 dollars. Traditional work crew too, 1 guy dug the hole and did the work while the others talked about something else entirely.
@AlAndValOffGrid
@AlAndValOffGrid 8 ай бұрын
I am SO glad I decided to go totally off-grid on our property. We were looking at an 800' to 1000' run of buried line from the closest pole to our home site on our 30 acre property. The cost for that would have been around 15K not including any other items to make the actual connection to the house. We went with solar (and are looking at micro-hydro for 24/7 power generation from our creek) which came in at around 18K so far. We can generate far more power than we can use or store during most of the year, and in the winters here, we supplement the lack of sunshine with a propane generator to charge our battery array. At present, we can get 2 to 3 days worth of power from our batteries for snowy, rainy or cloudy days. We'll be adding some more solar panels and a few more batteries to the system and if we add the micro hydro, we can generate 1 to 1.5 kw/hr 24/7 to keep our batteries topped off even during the longest periods of no sun. And no power bills.
@DarkFlamage
@DarkFlamage 8 ай бұрын
@ucsncinc That's totally awesome! I bet you never have to replace batteries either so no recurring upkeep costs. Am I right?
@Pinz314
@Pinz314 8 ай бұрын
Hydro is the best en you can use it 24/7 365. Would love to have that.
@danielw.556
@danielw.556 8 ай бұрын
​@@DarkFlamageWhen they will have to replace batteries in 10-20 years, there will be Sodium ion batteries that cost much less than today's lithium. So yes, recurring cost, but a) not so much and b) you probably don't know the smile it puts in your face, when you don't have to pay for electricity or when there's a power outage... It's the same as a propane conversion on a car (at least here in Europe). It costs you 1-3k initially, but the smile in your face, every time you fuel up at half of the cost, priceless. I have 5.2 kWp solar on my house and shop, with 35 kWh of old forklift lead acid batteries and a 5kW inverter. Just about to add another 8-9kWp of solar on east and west, to extend my autark. At the moment, I don't use any grid power from February to October, including hot water, air conditioning, and some electric heating during spring. Only in winter, I need like 3-500 kWh (yes, so little) from grid. Thinking of better putting a Lister diesel as a heating-power-plant.
@JeffTaylor-qm7gg
@JeffTaylor-qm7gg 8 ай бұрын
Yes , solar is the way to go. All I can say is ....Matt I wish you would have given more thought to solar.
@AlAndValOffGrid
@AlAndValOffGrid 8 ай бұрын
I shouldn't have to. The batteries are good for about 20 to 25 years of charging cycles and warrantied for 10 years. As long as I take care of the equipment, it should last for years. But I've made plans to keep a little something set aside in the event I do have an issue and need to replace anything
@bmacd2112
@bmacd2112 8 ай бұрын
I'm a real believer in paying a little extra to buy quality tools. However, I think $52,000 is a little much for a small pair of needle nose pliers! 🤣 Congratulations on getting it done.
@chrisgreenhalgh6358
@chrisgreenhalgh6358 8 ай бұрын
yes ,very expensive pair of pliers, you should have them framed Matt
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 8 ай бұрын
That's too funny, man you would be fun to work with.
@stevewilliamson4635
@stevewilliamson4635 7 ай бұрын
Those are government prices..
@NigelTolley
@NigelTolley 7 ай бұрын
@@stevewilliamson4635 LOL! Like the power company is "the government"... No, it's a very rich company.
@stevewilliamson4635
@stevewilliamson4635 7 ай бұрын
@@NigelTolley I was referring to the comment about 52,000 dollars just for needle nose pliers...the government is notorious for charging 6,000 dollars for an American standard toilet..not including installation..!!!
@dishtech43
@dishtech43 7 ай бұрын
install the primary outside your property , and pull it onto your property yourself. Thats what we did on a long pull too our lake to supply water too a hog barn. They dont have too have the primary at your house...
@geoffh1
@geoffh1 3 ай бұрын
At 2200ft the voltage drop would be massive. It would also require much larger wire which would cost much more than $50k.
@jonathanspencer8244
@jonathanspencer8244 3 ай бұрын
No it wouldn’t you bing bong. The voltage is too high for any issues. You need about 4 miles plus to use a regulator bank to boost back up voltages. Even then most times you’re good.
@user-ve5dn5lw5z
@user-ve5dn5lw5z 7 ай бұрын
Just for comparison, I installed an underground feed 14 years ago from the highway to a location 3900 feet away on our farm. This is in Ontario so requirements are quite different from that in your location in the US. The primary wire was basically a large coax cable about 1 1/4" in diameter and good for 16000 volts if my memory is correct. Even though I am an electrician myself I hired a contractor to help due to the size of the job. An excavator was used to dig a 24" trench up to 5' deep. A stone slinger layed 6" of sand in the trench as well as on top of the cable after installation. The only conduit used was at the pole to get into the trench and at the other end where the cable entered the concrete transformer base. The transformer base also had a ground field installed around the perimeter as well as the installation of the central metering base. The total cost was just over $42,000, $20,000 of which was for the aluminum primary coax cable. For the pad mount transformer, I only had to pay the difference between the cost of a pole mount and a pad mount. This gives me enough for approximately 700 amps at 240 volts. I know that here have been lots of increases in costs of just about everything in the past couple of years so no idea how much this would cost today.
@richardgadoury8452
@richardgadoury8452 7 ай бұрын
Could you have put in 600V or was it not available at source
@user-ve5dn5lw5z
@user-ve5dn5lw5z 7 ай бұрын
I assume you are talking three phase 600 volts. This would have required a lot more costly underground cable. Three phase was available at the source. @@richardgadoury8452
@infblu3808
@infblu3808 6 ай бұрын
@@richardgadoury8452 What he said was 240 on the Low End(user end) of the XFMR. He said the high side was 16kV. 600V would mean he would need another XFMR for all normal loads.
@chaps7976
@chaps7976 3 ай бұрын
Yep for sure on the cost part. Construction prices in the US have nearly gone up 50% if not more since covid.
@marksaddler
@marksaddler 8 ай бұрын
An electrifying episode! Glad you are all connected up, but for $52k you would have hoped they would clear up properly after themselves.
@harveylong5878
@harveylong5878 8 ай бұрын
their sparkies, Im shocked it was a clean up as it was.
@cda32
@cda32 8 ай бұрын
For $52k they should massage you in a deck chair while they dig the trenches and all the other work.
@scottschenk5456
@scottschenk5456 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! Hope this'll help with some material costs! Good to see it's has been working for you. Still waiting for an update on the overhead crane. Scott from California
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
He just needs another $51,950 more.
@DinDooIt
@DinDooIt 8 ай бұрын
@@calholli I will never understand people who donate to yt'ers who have 500k+ subs and good view numbers, they are giving money to people who make more than themselves, its hilarious actually.
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
@@DinDooIt The world is full of simps.. I don't know where they come from
@docdurdin
@docdurdin 8 ай бұрын
Most generous of you and given from the heart it's worth thousands.. Some don't undersatnd that..
@DieselCreek
@DieselCreek 8 ай бұрын
Thanks a ton!! ill be working on the crane here eventually. still gathering pieces to that puzzle.
@davidconner-shover51
@davidconner-shover51 Ай бұрын
Not power, but cable. Local cable company had an easement on the property with a buried cable. New building went up 50 feet from the cable, all marked and whatnot. the cable company wanted $60,000 to connect
@KC6UFO1
@KC6UFO1 7 ай бұрын
Matt, I love your video, and you have a great property and shop. In terms of cost, it cost me 18k to put in direct burial cable, 8 years ago in Colorado, including the setting of the transformer. $18 per foot. It was hell digging in the rock, and conduit just doesn't cut it here. As a plus, I received $3.5k back when the adjacent neighbor ran power to his place. Given the cost of things today vs 2015, and the price of both labor and wire, while I understand your frustration, all things considered I say at $23 a foot, even with your work, that you got a pretty good deal. If anything goes bad, the power company is on the hook to fix the cable and everything else associated with the installation for life. All in all, your project looks great! And you're blessed. Merry Christmas
@huntz3215
@huntz3215 7 ай бұрын
Power Co tried to charge my folks $120k for running 100mtr inside property to house. Turns out they had to upgrade street lines and tried to add that to the bill. When that was rejected they said how about $60k for the 100mtr trench. That was rejected & my folks managed with a generator for a few yrs. Eventually they got the trench in & mains power but whenever there was a storm & branches cut the lines it would take 1-3 days to be fixed being a rural sector. Last yr my folks went Solar with battery so if the power goes they don't lose perishables.
@summerforever6736
@summerforever6736 7 ай бұрын
God damn criminals!!
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 7 ай бұрын
For less than that today they could be 100% offgrid.
@alanrogs3990
@alanrogs3990 7 ай бұрын
@@davefroman4700 Please explain.
@davefroman4700
@davefroman4700 7 ай бұрын
@@alanrogs3990 Solar is dirt cheap today. You can get 20kw for under $13k today. And even on a cloudy day it will still produce more than enough to keep a 30kwh battery system ($10-$12k) happy. You put in a 5kwh backup generator to charge the batteries if needed in the winter? And it still will only run 4-6 hours a day. The average household uses less than 25kwh a day.
@ChrisWilson999
@ChrisWilson999 7 ай бұрын
$120K buys one heck of a battery and solar system.@@alanrogs3990
@dddevildogg
@dddevildogg 7 ай бұрын
You have a good show, and a person can learn from your experiences-even if they have no Diesels in their garage Thumb up
@bryceburns429
@bryceburns429 2 ай бұрын
As a bonus, you can use that cable puller as a hanger for wire running up to you rafters
@concankid4202
@concankid4202 8 ай бұрын
I checked on a run like that at my place in south Texas for overhead and it was about $40,000, but that was 5 years ago. The power company has a cost estimator on their website so I just calculated based on 2,600 feet and today's cost is $66,434 for overhead and $111,800 for underground. The good news, if any, is that these costs are all inclusive. Looks like you did OK.
@bigtxbullion
@bigtxbullion 7 ай бұрын
Never would have expected a run to cost that much. Its not even a three phase commercial property. Yikes. Who is the power provider in STX?
@johnarnold24
@johnarnold24 7 ай бұрын
It has been almost 30 years since I quit the field work but these prices seem outrageous.
@brucesherman5625
@brucesherman5625 8 ай бұрын
As a retired IBEW Electrical worker I am surprised that they showed such disrespect to you and your property. I'm sorry sir we were trained how to act in public.I don't know if these people were union people or not but everyone knows you don't leave a mess when you leave a job. Glad to see that you finally got power. Thank you for sharing your videos with us.Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New year.
@mcarroll598
@mcarroll598 8 ай бұрын
I’m IBEW as well 26 years, I make it a point I have everything cleaned when you’re done with your job!
@irunwire8528
@irunwire8528 8 ай бұрын
As a former industrial electrician I have seen both IBEW and non union leave jobs like this all the time, it seems to be just an electrician thing. I am my crew were never this way at all. After I started working in hospitals it came even more important to clean up after yourself, but again contractors coming in don’t always care anymore. I would have never left a tool though and that’s a fact, that stuff cost money.
@jamesstewart-me1zp
@jamesstewart-me1zp 8 ай бұрын
After 40 years in the industry and retired from local 3 ibew, I have found that electricians do not like to clean up after themselves!@@irunwire8528
@janosszabo98
@janosszabo98 8 ай бұрын
I don't want to say it's a generational thing, because I'm sure it happened back in the day, too, but yeah... Some people take pride in what they're doing and make sure it's done to the very best of their ability, leaving the site the same or better they found it. Others just doing it for the paycheck ... and it seems like this is the more prevalent these days.
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 8 ай бұрын
The clean-up is your reputation if you are a private contractor but as a carpenter I have rarely met an electrician that does so but those chaps, I guess, know they won't be back and at least Matt has power now. Reading the other comments suggest to me that we trained at a time when pride in your work came before the pay check, as an apprentice our motto was "Do it once, do it well".
@tallboy49
@tallboy49 7 ай бұрын
That meter means money, lots of it and it all belongs to the power company. Power companies must be all the same around the world as in Australia they charge an arm and a leg plus one kidney to connect the power to your premises in rural areas. I knew one guy who was quoted $52000 to connect the power to his rural property and there was only pole involved. No underground. He went full solar with batteries and a back up generator and with the government subsidy the system cost him nothing.
@knight0334
@knight0334 7 ай бұрын
I work the telco side, and we pull U/G cables via same method. We jet thru or on shorter runs, rod/mandrel thru, a pull string/mule tape. Then use it to pull through our cables. In some districts they have a jetting machine to directly jet thru fiber cables.
@flowerstone
@flowerstone 8 ай бұрын
I would suggest that you build a really solid steel frame around the transformer and junction boxes. Protects them from falling trees and somebody backing into them.hust make sure you make the frame in front of the doors removable for access. 😊
@thesteelrodent1796
@thesteelrodent1796 8 ай бұрын
"somebody" ;)
@jeffriley-lq5np
@jeffriley-lq5np 8 ай бұрын
bollards ? is that what your trying to say dont roof over it
@alanjarvis8777
@alanjarvis8777 8 ай бұрын
Great suggestion!!!
@hobens1
@hobens1 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree for 52k they're probably diamond encrusted 😂😂
@Drostron
@Drostron 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely!! Nobody and nothing would ever hit them...😮😂
@christopherdolin8641
@christopherdolin8641 8 ай бұрын
Glad to see you've got power Matt, with the kind of activities that you are likely to have around the farm, I would suggest maybe putting up some reinforced concrete bollards around the junction boxes before you get too carried away with the landscaping. One swipe with an excavator or a trailer backing into them would tear one up pretty bad.
@tomlind2
@tomlind2 7 ай бұрын
The power company charges a lot of money but those guys do amazing work. Ten years ago a bad storm hit the town i lived in and it looked like a bomb went off. The power company swooped in with a bunch of different crews from all over the state (WI) and they had us up and running within a day and a half. I thought we were going to be without power for weeks. We had whole blocks of power lines down in the middle of the street and trees everywhere. They did amazing work and they were even nice about it.
@weathermannax416
@weathermannax416 6 ай бұрын
Well, I paid $1,800 to replace my 20-gal steel well water pressure tank & switch. In its place is a 30-gal composite tank. Mind you, I dug up the old tank with a standard spade shovel & I had to bury the new tank. A regular plumber quoted me $3,500 to do it. Service call just to come to my home is $300 & if he had to use his own mini excavator, that is an additional $200/hour. And the tank replacement is still $1,800. When it is a necessity - it will cost you and arm and a leg, then some more. Which is more of an eye-sore? Small green boxes or wood poles sticking in the aire?
@vanessah-ee2sl
@vanessah-ee2sl 8 ай бұрын
Matt, my husband introduced me to your videos and I gotta say, you're my favorite channel from his selections. For some reason, I am never bored with what you do or teach me about your love of mechanical stuff. You've got to be the hardest working KZbinr I know. You're a genuine hard-working nice guy. Hey, everyone, let's get Matt to a million subscribers for Christmas starting with me. Hey, fellas out there watching Matt, get your wives and girlfriends to add him on too! Thanks, Matt!
@Niander101
@Niander101 8 ай бұрын
Not all our lasses are interested in this stuff
@vanessah-ee2sl
@vanessah-ee2sl 8 ай бұрын
​@@Niander101True enough, my friend. But if they don't, then they never truly appreciate their man.
@SquidgyTTV
@SquidgyTTV 8 ай бұрын
Chill out
@eric_seguin
@eric_seguin 8 ай бұрын
@@Niander101 Doesn't matter if they're interested, the body count is what matters.
@vanessah-ee2sl
@vanessah-ee2sl 8 ай бұрын
@@eric_seguin my point exactly 👍
@geraldrooke4922
@geraldrooke4922 8 ай бұрын
Apparently I have been waiting three months to see how you put the draw rope into that ducting. It was worth the wait. Well done Matt. I just need to see the wood burner installed now. Keep up the good work.
@burkepete110
@burkepete110 7 ай бұрын
It would have been smart to include a transfer switch to facilitate use of a generator during power outage. You make a pretty good case that the job was costly.
@jwbranham2009
@jwbranham2009 6 ай бұрын
You did a good thing to get this done now! Your shop looks awesome and love all of the older "vintage" equipment you have. Great video and thanks for putting that together for us to watch.
@donaldstevenson2475
@donaldstevenson2475 8 ай бұрын
Matt the Chinese finger clamp are very handy in more cases than you can imagine, but big ones are even better for pulling hydraulic hoses around a dozer or other equipment, so hang on to them ,just pull old hose out as you pull new hose into connect it .
@offroad3574
@offroad3574 8 ай бұрын
15:00 I will never not be impressed at the ability to use excavators and such as precision equipment! Keep up the awesome work Matt!
@chris_dahlen
@chris_dahlen 3 ай бұрын
Saw on another Y.T. channel, they made a small building near the pole by road, had power company set transformer near that and saved a ton of money. Then had a licensed electrician run wire to main building
@joshuawatson8569
@joshuawatson8569 4 ай бұрын
Costs I’m seeing for 15kv underground is around 25/foot, I wouldn’t be surprised if you were only charged for this cable and everything else was socialized. There’s a world of difference between your 120 volt wire and a primary underground conductor.
@tracywagoner4907
@tracywagoner4907 8 ай бұрын
As a retired old electrician, I can say that the power companies around here usually pro-rate based on expected future KWh usage. I am a bit shocked by the 52,000 when you have a semi-commercial shop and a residence both going in. But when you live out in beautiful countryside instead of suburban hell, that happens. Congrats on having it done. Glad you found out about the vacuum trick, we always used that when it was available. Works a treat.
@longshot726
@longshot726 8 ай бұрын
Mine will pull 250 feet before they even start charging you and everything after that is prorated. It does matter how it is zoned and if you are currently building though. Residential they won't prorate at all unless they see a residence going up on the property before they pull it. They won't let you pull your own here since they don't know if maybe you branched something off underground.
@swedishpsychopath8795
@swedishpsychopath8795 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Norway for inventing the vacuum technique to pull wire.
@Hoaxer51
@Hoaxer51 8 ай бұрын
@@swedishpsychopath8795, What!! I’m pretty sure that Thomas Edison invented the vacuum so he could pull wires, he did that right after he invented electricity! I think it was the second thing he ever invented, just for that reason. lol
@DavidBeckerSr
@DavidBeckerSr 8 ай бұрын
Great Video! For $52 K, you’d thing these Overpaid Prima donna’s could at least clean up their mess 😢. Everybody is entitled today, it’s the world we live in. The work you did, was perfection,learned a lot, but then again, I always do . Enjoy your new power!⚡️ 😊❤
@calholli
@calholli 8 ай бұрын
@@swedishpsychopath8795 Norway invented space?
@ianlevine273
@ianlevine273 8 ай бұрын
Great episode again. Once the wallet recovers a bit, you could avoid a lot of last minute scramble having your electrician buddy help you put in a transfer switch and hookup box on the side of the barn to hook in the generator when the utility fails you. Probably not a big deal now but a huge convenience once it’s also backing up the house.
@keithstudly6071
@keithstudly6071 8 ай бұрын
Yes, you will be so happy every time the power goes down. Every time you throw that switch and the lights come back on you will thank yourself.
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 2 ай бұрын
Yep the same backup generator would be used for heavy snows covering solar panels had he wanted a foolproof and much cheaper solution. No, thank you. This man loves the old skool tride an true pay thru the nose for the utility hose method. If God wanted his lights to stay on, it would stop snowing..
@jeepsaround
@jeepsaround 4 ай бұрын
In commercial electrical, it seems there is always water in at least 10% of the underground feeder conduit. Obviously some people don't try hard enough to properly glue fittings but they are never concerned (it is too late) and they don't talk about doing it better next time. It seems to work time and again without issue.
@TheEquineFencer
@TheEquineFencer 3 ай бұрын
Years ago I worked on generators. A customer I went to do a start up on a 400Kw generator had your same problem. They wanted well over $2000,000 to bring him 3ph. He had 1ph near the site. It was a rock quarry. He did the math and figured out he could buy a generator, use the single phase for basic power and run the block heater on the generator. Between the fuel cost and price of the generator it'd take him 4 years to break even, after that he was saving money.
@WhiteOutHunting
@WhiteOutHunting 8 ай бұрын
I love how you do all the work and still have to pay 52k to get it connected!
@timziegler9358
@timziegler9358 8 ай бұрын
I am sorry for all the problems you have had to endure with the power company. I wish you the very best!
@rmck6830
@rmck6830 8 ай бұрын
It's great to have a monopoly when it comes to pricing things out! It's highway robbery of the worst kind.
@mbengambenga-xi6dp
@mbengambenga-xi6dp 8 ай бұрын
Electric utilities are regulated and politicians say what they do, so usually they have some basis for their prices even if hi... None of us are experts in utility economics. Power is cheap in PA so I wouldn't be totally sure they're wrong to say $50000 is fair price. They are now stuck with a cranky rural user who may be bozo and sever his line and in February start demanding emergency crew. And a mile of line seems a big risk, for 1 user who likes to dig.. Vs a city user who just needs 20 ft of power line from pole to corner of house. It's not popular but utilities are NOT rolling in money and are tightly controlled . Normally a house wanting mile of line would be a $2m mansion so yeah $50,000 would be fine for the millionaire, this may be a nice way for utility to get nice profit to subsidize the poorer city people, so maybe it's yes inflated 3x over likely cost, do we wanna insist they not gouge the mansions?? World is complex man.
@mbengambenga-xi6dp
@mbengambenga-xi6dp 8 ай бұрын
@@iridium8341 Electric utilities are regulated by politicians. If angry bother politicians daily, sabotage risking fed jail for 20 years ain't worth risk for $50k. In life we are screwed many times, my god health care costs are ridiculous that's more than $50k each decade, , but we still have great life if we calmly grumble and think what would Jesus do .. in China if bother politicians you get a bullet. I say this to myself weekly, that life has frustrations and unfairness but it's overall ok, helps with my rage issues my alcoholic family badly taught me, haha..
@bizzfo
@bizzfo 8 ай бұрын
@@mbengambenga-xi6dpI doubt this kind of thing is regulated. It’s probably just the rates that are regulated.
@chrisjohnson4666
@chrisjohnson4666 8 ай бұрын
@mbengambenga-xi6dp what are you talking about my power line is 1800 feet long, my neighbors are five houses farthest one is 3000 feet or more back and the coop ran everything only had to set the conduit... Im about positive the 5 houses didnt spent 50k on the 2000 foot long main feeder line thats buried... We probably have 100 to 200 houses in my twp 1000 feet or more back... If you go above ground I believe the first 300 or 500 feet is free poles included then its 500 bucks every extra 100 feet.. ...
@mbengambenga-xi6dp
@mbengambenga-xi6dp 8 ай бұрын
I could be wrong, none of us are utility accountants. But as a guess at $100 an hour per man, and $100 for equipment hour, and paperwork of having to check out and map rural properties, OR a fair amount, it seems utility SHOULD charge maybe $10000 or so for halfday spend on rural property. Unless rural properties get charged higher rate the utility shouldnt pass that real cost on urban people... I'm totally guessing.
@SilverXTikal
@SilverXTikal 3 ай бұрын
I only clicked because that green box was my childhood “kind of the hill” spot in every neighborhood I went. The humming and warmth or pure radioactivity is oddly nostalgic
@DemsAreDemonic
@DemsAreDemonic 3 ай бұрын
A single 1200 Amp ground transformer on a concrete pad for our business cost us $11,400. The run was 80ft from a pole. However, if you’re running 2600 ft of copper line from the source then you’re not out of range. They didn’t overcharge you.
@maineadventureswiththetayl7191
@maineadventureswiththetayl7191 8 ай бұрын
I live in Maine and I did everything from the excavation to installing the line they required to my shop which was 1080'. I bought all the wire and installed so we didn't need to use CMP. After paying all the materials not including my time the electricians to do the meter hook up and all the fees associated I was at a little over $21,000. Your setup was twice the distance and they pulled the power cable and supplied I actually think you got a good deal other then its stupid expensive for what it is. The only reason we did ours was the waiting list was much longer then yours due to Covid. With that having power is worth the pain to the pocket in my opinion.
@DXT61
@DXT61 8 ай бұрын
That's interesting.
@Hwb415
@Hwb415 8 ай бұрын
52k is a bit absurd but as a lineman there is a bit more that goes into the process. Factor in the cost of the primary cable (we use 2/0 aluminum primary cable for this type of service), medium voltage elbow on transformer side (possibly additional elbows in junction boxes. Not sure of that style junction), medium voltage termination on pole side plus possibly a cutout and other hardware to run cable up pole and connect to existing infrastructure. Again 52k is a lot but having the equipment and manpower to come out and energize the service isn’t cheap and the power company is obviously making a fair bit as well. Primary cable is also a bit more involved to terminate than your regular 600v or 1000v secondary cable.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 8 ай бұрын
My suspicion was that the power company wanted to make sure nothing went wrong with the pull, like a gash in the insulation or sketchy splices in the middle that could overheat and cause a short later on.
@nathangandara9607
@nathangandara9607 8 ай бұрын
He said he is supplying the cable for 15k he paid they're just pulling it with the string he also had to install
@Monkeh616
@Monkeh616 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention taking responsibility for the entire installation from that point on. People seem to take that for granted.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 8 ай бұрын
@@Monkeh616 Yeah, it's like the people who drive without motor insurance and get into a car accident. Like, whether or not there's price gouging involved is a separate issue, but regulations exist for a reason!
@MrEndzo
@MrEndzo 8 ай бұрын
@@nathangandara9607 $15k was for the conduit and renting the trencher.
@user-xi9nn8xx9k
@user-xi9nn8xx9k 7 ай бұрын
I just watched this video and have to say what a COOL way to run string through conduit!!! I really enjoy your show and watching you fix old machines that most people would give up on. This was a Great video it was like I was right there with you!! Keep up the Great Work!!!
@CharlesDAlessandro
@CharlesDAlessandro 7 ай бұрын
As an licensed electrician in New Jersey for 40 years running a company that was established in 1918 the power company is the authority having jurisdiction in simple terms there in charge. The wire they use is high voltage primary wire once the wire is installed they take responsibility for it. Voltage is usually any where from 4160 to 13000 volts that's why you or I being an licensed electrician can't touch it. They have you by your short hairs, its not something to play with. Most utility company's will credit you back the cost if you are a new customer. Lots of luck the installation it perfect. Also the primary wire is very expensive. And the vacuum is a neat I use a nerf ball of different sizes for the long pulls
@tommosier3832
@tommosier3832 8 ай бұрын
As a professional Electrician I can confirm that this is the best way to get a line in the conduit. Lol. Nice job!
@braddokken9191
@braddokken9191 8 ай бұрын
Another huge accomplishment. It seems like yesterday you were prepping for the first shipping container. It's a lot of money but what else can you do? It's not going to get any cheaper. Congratulations! I'm looking forward to seeing a wood boiler install in the future.
@30dayride67
@30dayride67 6 ай бұрын
Wow, what they charged was insane. That's over 5 times more than we paid to have our electric buried a little over a quarter of a mile into the timber to the house, barns and grain bins and we didn't do any of it ourselves, but we have electrical co-ops in rural areas. If they profit we get the dividends which are generally small if anything at all because most of the "profits" are used to upgrade services and repair storm damage or set aside for that. It works and has been so much nicer than having some public utility with outside investors. Many of our phone/internet companies work the same for those of us who live rurally or in small townships.
@robincross4625
@robincross4625 5 ай бұрын
I had the Elec service buried to my house. $6 grand. You hit the nail on the head. A licensed Elec had to do the job per elec co. I was not allowed to.
@SummerOf1970
@SummerOf1970 8 ай бұрын
Thats CRAZY expensive! Congrats on the barn build. This old operator really appreciates you saving all the old machines! Thanks Matt!
@Bierkameel
@Bierkameel 8 ай бұрын
Not really for a transformer, a lot of wire and 15 guys showing up, it just sounds expensive.
@dylanb8427
@dylanb8427 8 ай бұрын
Shit, for $52k I could have set you up with an off grid solar setup that would power that shop 24/7. I think my last large one was ~$35k including a shipping container and 100kw backup genset (2 stroke detroit!). Produced ~40kwh/day in the summer and 20kwh/day in the winter. Plus had 40kwh of battery storage. It provided 240V split phase and easily started larger loads like big motors and even ran a 240V welder just fine. Hell, I usually did my laundry at night, off a 240V well pump, full size washer and full size electric dryer - without the genset.
@brandon4185
@brandon4185 3 ай бұрын
Does seem crazy not to do solar+battery given the prices… it was over $65k which buys a lot of solar and battery.
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 3 ай бұрын
add 50% to that price and you can have Tesla branded solar, installed, and 25 yr warranty. But still less than this! (AND NO BILLS)
@mad2barxhst
@mad2barxhst 7 ай бұрын
Utilities will usually charge one a high price for electric infrastructure if one is the first and only customer utilizing the infrastructure. When more customers start utilizing the infrastructure, the initial customer usually gets a refund on the initial cost of the primary power infrastructure. The utility does this to recoup their cost of putting in the primary power infrastructure and normally is in accordance with the public utility commission having jurisdiction of the area. The utility recoups the cost of putting in the primary infrastructure from the energy used by the customers. Depending on the power consumption by the customer the utility may shoulder the entire cost or charge the customer for the initial primary power installation. The utility has to recoup their cost in accordance with guidelines of the public utility commission.
@terryjohnson7572
@terryjohnson7572 7 ай бұрын
You hire a electrician, have the power company put the transformer on the right away. Electrician run the service wire and meter box. Transformer on right away is normal to be 20 to 100 feet from road depending on where you live or buy the wire, rent a dich which and do it your self. That's what we did.
@scotpettengill7801
@scotpettengill7801 7 ай бұрын
Another step in the right direction. The price to do the power is never cheap. In New Hampshire here at my son's house I did a power service upgrade from 150.amp service to a 200 amp service this spring. I dug the 225' trench and laid all the 3 inch pvc and 1 inch pvc with my son. Public Service had us pull the strings as well and install slip joints at the meter box. There was no cost for the wire underground because when, they are upgrading the power it's free, so that was a huge savings. Your progress on your shop and land is amazing, keep up the good work. Happy Holidays.
@matthewerwin4677
@matthewerwin4677 8 ай бұрын
I believe the high cost is for the power company taking ownership of that stretch of underground line to the meter. They're responsible for it from now on. From the main line to the meter.
@xlerb2286
@xlerb2286 7 ай бұрын
At my farm there's a power pole that has the HV feed from the line coming into it underground. The feed runs up the pole, then back down the pole to a transformer that sits at the base of the pole. There is no need for that pole, the HV feed could go right into the transformer. But to have the power company do that would have been over $10K in 1980's dollars. Doesn't bother me any, the pole isn't in the way. (The reason the pole is there is that the HV lines used to be above-ground and there was a transformer at the top of the pole).
@dalemettee1147
@dalemettee1147 2 ай бұрын
Matt now that the umbilical cord has been attached to the power grid, the next big surprise is the monthly utility bill gets delivered to you. Also, during the recording of this project, I noticed a view of what looks like the trolley crane on the side of the driveway. I guess the next thing to buy is the 12" "I" beams for the crane.
@DieselCreek
@DieselCreek 2 ай бұрын
I have the beams
@spoolin55psi
@spoolin55psi 8 ай бұрын
Mule tape might be the best thing ever made very little stretch super strong and easy to use.
@chris_martin
@chris_martin 8 ай бұрын
As a heavy equipment mechanic, I absolutely hate mule tape, and when it gets into brushes of a sweeper, gets into bearings etc
@dandan7726
@dandan7726 8 ай бұрын
Matt ,you can claim a credit on your taxs for energy efficiency improvements made to your home and property using form 5695 and it equals 30 percent of certain qualified expenses. Hope this helps lower price it cost you for the shocking amount it cost to get power. Keep up the good videos.
@jeffwilson1399
@jeffwilson1399 8 ай бұрын
Taxation is theft.
@GeoffreyMorrison-xh2eo
@GeoffreyMorrison-xh2eo 7 ай бұрын
Very fine point!
@over-engineered
@over-engineered 7 ай бұрын
what you could do is have the power company meter close to the boundary of your land, then everything after that you could run your own cable. BUT if they are running HV to you, your cable after the transformer/meter (LV) would have to be a lot larger. might not save anything!?
@moosescorner
@moosescorner 5 ай бұрын
when you had the generator hooked up to the entrance feed my first though was might be a worthwhile idea to add a manual transfer switch to the building with a plug so if power goes out you can just hook generator up with little work and be back online in a jiffy.
@tiredoldmechanic1791
@tiredoldmechanic1791 8 ай бұрын
The power companies are like the phone companies used to be when there was only one provider for each area. My uncle lived on the border of a phone company service area. The neighbors house, that was within 200 feet of his house was a long distance phone call away. As Lily Tomlin used to say as Earnistine the telephone operator on Laugh in. "We don't care, we don't have to, we're the phone company."
@powrguy1696
@powrguy1696 8 ай бұрын
Yeah; the phone companies USED to be a bundled service, and MUCH cheaper. Now, just like utilities, it's per-piece-pricing.......how much would it cost to build your car, on nut and bolt at a time, and all components billed separately? ROFL
@netking66
@netking66 3 ай бұрын
Nothing which two tin cans and a length of string would not sort out.
@roycsinclair
@roycsinclair 8 ай бұрын
The one box right beside the road, for safeties sake I think you should put in a couple of hefty barrier poles on each side of the box just to mark them clearly (especially in snow) and to keep any slightly off the road vehicle from tearing through that and forcing you back onto your generators.
@jeffriley-lq5np
@jeffriley-lq5np 8 ай бұрын
if matt marks them he’s liable for them. did matt set them off the right away? that’s in him too
@DieselCreek
@DieselCreek 8 ай бұрын
All laid out to spec
@MetalSphere10
@MetalSphere10 8 ай бұрын
@@DieselCreek Matt, it’s late. Go to bed.
@warrenmichael918
@warrenmichael918 8 ай бұрын
None of his boxes were close to the road. They were in his driveway but not the road people drive on. The one at the end of his drive was at least 60 feet or more off the road.
@warrenmichael918
@warrenmichael918 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffriley-lq5np Right of way? They are all on his property, he doesnt need to make sure any right of way distance ion kept. The power company gave him a spec sheet to follow and if he wasnt 1000% within that spec, they wouldnt pull the wire. This was inspected a few times before the guys showed up to pull the wire, even though we didnt see the inspections, it was all gone over very well.
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 5 ай бұрын
It ain't just power that they rake you over the coals for. I almost bought a property that had zero internet service. No cable, no fiber, nothing. I could get DSL, but it was SLOW SLOW. The local ISP had service 1/4 mile up the road. They wanted $80,000 to run service to that property. This wasn't buried cable, but above ground on the poles. $80k. This was to a neighborhood, mind you. So they could have capitalized on that. No thanks.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 6 ай бұрын
Glad to see you finally got your Electric Meter and Electricity in the Shop Matt 32:00 @Diesel Creek
@jimlaredo87
@jimlaredo87 8 ай бұрын
Hi Matt! Been watching your videos for years now, always fun watching you tear into all these heavy projects on your own! Can’t describe the sense of inspiration you give to work through a tough obstacle! Just wanted to maybe give you a few tips on installing basements and terminating in meter bases in the future. I am an electric lineman in Michigan so we do this work all the time. When burying your basements we typically don’t burry them flush against the ground because they will tend to settle into the ground over time. I’ll leave roughy 8-10 inches or so exposed out of the ground to set the transformers and switch cabinets (which is what is by your gate) on for settling and also it gives you more room for the primary and secondary wires to bend around and more room for us to work with them easily to terminate as well as have extra wire for when the frost starts to pull on the wire it won’t pull the bushings out of the transformer. This also applies to your meter base. I always make a decent bend on our wires so there’s a few inches of wire to play with for frost. Doesn’t have to be much but a little snake bend can make all the difference as opposed to just running straight up like that. Been to many homes over the years where it’s pulled the meter base right off the home or barn and everything has to be redone. Just some little tips and tricks for you for next time if you ever have to do it again in the future!
@ellesmerewildwood4858
@ellesmerewildwood4858 8 ай бұрын
When you got the bill for the power did it come in the form of little bits of letters cut out from various magazines ? I can't imagine how much they would have charged if they'd done EVERYTHING themselves.
@braveworld2707
@braveworld2707 8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 8 ай бұрын
25:08 52k.
@normhowes2975
@normhowes2975 8 ай бұрын
@@bobbg9041 That's 52 grand just for the transformer, wire, pulling the wire, plugging in meter and hooking things up. It does not include the conduit, burying it, pull tape, pulling pull tape OR the run from transformer to building.
@ellesmerewildwood4858
@ellesmerewildwood4858 8 ай бұрын
@@bobbg9041 I know it cost Matt 52K but he did most of the work himself. What I wonder is how much it would have cost if the power company had done everything. Dug holes, dug trenches, dug up and repaired the road, laid pipes, filled trenches, placed transformer boxes, run the strings then the pull lines, then the wiring and lastly the connections. It would have cost at least 150K.
@jrock865
@jrock865 7 ай бұрын
@@ellesmerewildwood4858 it would be a fortune and with wire prices now especially high voltage this price with transformer and all those guys actually is accurate people just don't understand what all it takes but leaving all that stuff is ridiculous.
@MichaelDillin
@MichaelDillin 3 ай бұрын
My uncle was a 35 year electrician. He taught me a trick when we pulled my wire from my house to my shop. He said if it’s it all uphill, you pull it from the downhill side even 2 feet of climb will make the wire tougher to pull we had about 16 feet of drop that wire basically slid right through the conduit, because it was all downhill
@EtherealVirago
@EtherealVirago 3 ай бұрын
This is very true, sometimes when pulling wire vertically in conduit up multiple floors we have to pull the wire up instead of down. The wire is so heavy that if you pulled down, it would start to fall into the conduit uncontrollably, causing a dangerous and costly situation. We then install specifically sized blocking in the end of the pipe at the top floor to prevent the wire from falling down after the tugger and rope are disconnected.
@justkelly6992
@justkelly6992 3 ай бұрын
I always tie wrapped the pipe in the spool to the center of the cross supports so it did not swing back and forth which causes jams and the ladder to topple over. I used the distances you stated in your video and then entered them into the power line calculator provided by my utility. Ours said $27, 500.00 for the same setup. however I quoted overhead lines. For $25,000 dollars difference I could have looked at a few phone poles for a very long time.
@rossx5468
@rossx5468 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on finally getting mains power Matt, loved the vacuum cleaner trick. I would frame those needle nose pliers if I was you, along with the caption "the $52000 pliers".
@chrisb2239
@chrisb2239 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic!! Nice “clean” work all around. Given you have so many trees and often use heavy equipment in the area, I suggest you build a “corral” of concrete piers with a couple runs of good steel rails between them that keep a height well above the transformer. This way if a tree falls on it the corral will hold the load rather than crush the transformer.
@7wingsaseagles89
@7wingsaseagles89 7 ай бұрын
Working in communications industry we have a different technique we blow fiber optic cable in instead of sucking a string through. It's much faster and more efficient. This does require a different technique in different material but it accomplishes the same thing.
@davidking2811
@davidking2811 7 ай бұрын
I'm a retired lineman. Puling the primary cable is not the issue. The important part of this deal are the high voltage terminations on the pad mount transformer and bringing the cable up the pole and understanding the limits of approach to the primary power line. You need to have a lineman trained in installation of the high voltage cut out (fuse) and lightning arrestor up near the energize 14 k on single phase. The termination is not like just simply pressing on a lug. It's a bit more complex than that for safe installation. Many are the fools missing an arm or dead because of not understanding the power system or correct safety precautions. If the termination at transformer end (elbow) is not assembled by a qualified tradesman,it blowing up after closing the cut is not uncommon. Then you'd really be out of pocket big time. Reinstalling, replacing the burned up cable an having qualified lineman do it all properly would probably double your cost if you weren't in the burn unit of your hospital. Just saying.....
@samssungs4495
@samssungs4495 8 ай бұрын
Congrats, Matt! 52 grand is a lot of doe ray me, but that's the price you have to pay when dealing with the establishment! It's done, and it's time to start a new chapter at Diesel Creek. Your videos are the best, and we all look forward to seeing many more!
@systemsrenegade9888
@systemsrenegade9888 8 ай бұрын
Worked out just over 5 grand a truck maybe that's how they price it.
@ctdieselnut
@ctdieselnut 8 ай бұрын
@@systemsrenegade9888 transformer, high voltage line, etc., man hrs, overhead, profit. Materials/labor, no different than any other business. It aint cheap. Water company charged my buddy 80k to run water 600' to his new house, all utility work is like this. Sad but true.
@onlooker774
@onlooker774 8 ай бұрын
For 52k you probably may set your own solar farm plus generator as a backup...
@silverbackag9790
@silverbackag9790 8 ай бұрын
He'd have to take out a huge swath of trees and he'd probably need double and maybe triple that amount for his power requirements (I am assuming he had 400 amp service installed, maybe three phase). You don't run a trolley crane, milling machines, plasma cutters etc on whatever Chinesium crap David Poz or other similar youtube creatures are slinging. It can be done, but not Growatts and EG4s.
@sccarguy8242
@sccarguy8242 8 ай бұрын
You’re correct but he wants to build a house there as well in the future, and he lives in PA so in the winter they get snow, so this is better long term. If it was just the shop you would probably be right.
@tookitogo
@tookitogo 5 ай бұрын
Little tip for anyone doing this alone: do not use a standard household vacuum, make sure you use a wet/dry vac as shown in this video. Why? In a household dry-only vacuum, the air vacuumed in is the same air used to cool the motor. So if the bag makes its way into the vacuum and blocks the airflow (as we clearly heard happen here, as the motor sound changes), it would block the cooling and the motor could overheat before you make it back to turn it off. Wet/dry vacs, on the other hand, have a totally separate airflow path for motor cooling, since the vacuum airflow can be mixed with water and inconsistent. So a wet/dry vac can operate with its vacuum inlet blocked indefinitely, since the motor will continue to be cooled.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 3 ай бұрын
Well if one has two people that is not an issue.
@JohnFarrell-jo2sw
@JohnFarrell-jo2sw 4 ай бұрын
Don’t you love how the power company makes you do all of the work and pay for their equipment they are a utility so they don’t need to be inspected by the electrical inspector but you need to pull a permit for the secondary side from the transformer to the meter socket
@curtisnewton895
@curtisnewton895 8 ай бұрын
the amount of stuffs we learn with you is baffling
@afineliner740
@afineliner740 8 ай бұрын
A momentous occasion, happy for you Matt. Shame you couldn't get it cheaper, but no looking back now, full steam ahead. 👍
@wecole
@wecole 7 ай бұрын
I think -this- episode finally makes Matt's shop workable. Everything else is just sorta extra.... but now he finally has a real working shop. Congrats Matt!
@l.ls.8890
@l.ls.8890 7 ай бұрын
Regarding the mule tape, just pay a kid a few dollars to put all of it on a spool. Put some caution electrical stickers on all of them for safety warning.
@keithwallick7440
@keithwallick7440 8 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the power hookup! Maybe on a future video you can show a clean up, lubrication and will it run on a $52,000 pair of pliers! 😅
@Adventures-of-Life
@Adventures-of-Life 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate the honesty and full disclosure of the cost of the project. Some people want to do something like this is nice to know what it cost. At least they can base their estimate on his and see if they're getting a better deal or not.
@dukeedward5754
@dukeedward5754 3 ай бұрын
never seen someone so happy to be on the grid. most people are trying to get out of the matrix not into it.
@mh0862
@mh0862 7 ай бұрын
Seen some comments on here about solar. I've worked in factories in the midwest. We had dozens of machines consuming enormous amounts of power. We didn't have electric lines, we had electric cables. I don't think most people today have any idea how much power it takes to create things they take for granted. I can't imagine the electric motor factory I worked at being powered by a solar array. Do agree that for a residence, solar is somewhat viable. I'd keep it off the grid though. There's gotta be a hitch somewhere when the power companies want your solar system on the grid.
@kenn5894
@kenn5894 8 ай бұрын
I tried pricing 15Kv primary wire and it's about $15 per foot. I'm guessing the single phase transformer was $5,000, and the new pole was probably 5,000. So about $43,000 in materials and the rest was labor and profit. I'm happy you finally have power. I've been thinking you'd want 3 phase power but i can't imagine what they would have charged you to run that.
@jeffs2809
@jeffs2809 8 ай бұрын
I’d put that transformer closer to the $10k range, depending on size & manufacturer. I would guess it’s an around a 25kva.
@glennschlorf1285
@glennschlorf1285 8 ай бұрын
You dont own the transformer
@DXT61
@DXT61 8 ай бұрын
I know a fellow who doesn't live this far out. I mean he has power already to his shop but 3 phase was still going to cost something near this to have it as his residence. He just went the rotary converters. I just remember it being stupid expensive .
@jonathanbradtke860
@jonathanbradtke860 8 ай бұрын
I just installed 15kv primary and it’s $2.80 per ft for 2 awg full neutral stranded. Not sure where you got $15 from
@kevink4914
@kevink4914 8 ай бұрын
Them prices are maybe from 5 years ago. Transformers can be closer to $20,000 and primary wire $10 a foot
@parttimewoodcrafter307
@parttimewoodcrafter307 8 ай бұрын
Hey Matt, if you see this, for future reference, mule tape has a little number printed on it every couple of feet. Those are footage. Read the number at both ends, subtract the smaller from the larger. That's your wire length without pulling the tape out to measure.
@DieselCreek
@DieselCreek 8 ай бұрын
I checked my mule tape before I pulled it. No numbers on mine.
@parttimewoodcrafter307
@parttimewoodcrafter307 8 ай бұрын
@@DieselCreek gotcha, I figured it was worth mentioning. Thanks for the effort you put into your vids.
@philipcecchini5474
@philipcecchini5474 2 ай бұрын
Interesting process. What an easy way to install the pull tape! I thought the electrical junction boxes went on concrete pads to keep the ends up out of the water!
@deal492
@deal492 6 ай бұрын
What a lot of people don't understand with that initial cost is.... once the power company energizes the cable (in our area) is they take ownership of all of the infrastructure. Pipes, boxes, transformer box, transformer, and cable, and connections... FOREVER.. trans former goes bad, you get a new one, wire burns up, you get new wire, box collapses they dig and set new one... but what you get within your property is safe reliable power from wildlife and trees.. because it buried. How many feet of pipe? I think the cable is about 8.00 a foot..
@LC-uh8if
@LC-uh8if 3 ай бұрын
You pay the full cost [plus some extra] to build it and then the power company gets to own it and charge you [or whoever you sell to] monthly forever. You move, everything remains in the ground and the power company still gets their monthly payments. Having a customer is mutually beneficial. Lets not act like the power company is doing him some kind of favor by charging $52k to hook him up.
@richardthomas1743
@richardthomas1743 8 ай бұрын
WOW! I have never seen that before with a bag , string and Vacuum , and yes you NAILED IT Matt! 👍
@johnrobichaud130
@johnrobichaud130 8 ай бұрын
Trade method for years
@richardthomas1743
@richardthomas1743 8 ай бұрын
@@johnrobichaud130 Yes but it is NOT something that all of us see everyday.
@georgewelker853
@georgewelker853 8 ай бұрын
It always blows my mind when there’s enforcement of extortion rules like this situation. Power companies, gas companies and health departments that have complete control of their perspective trades. They have rules to follow but they are essentially a monopoly with law enforcement behind their monopolies
@tbas8741
@tbas8741 8 ай бұрын
Only in 1 Country tho so there is a Solution, Change Country.
@nathangandara9607
@nathangandara9607 8 ай бұрын
U forgot insurance
@czogg99
@czogg99 8 ай бұрын
Don’t forget health insurance .the biggest scam and monopoly.
@keithstudly6071
@keithstudly6071 8 ай бұрын
Yes, they are a monopoly. That is why they are regulated by the public utilities commission. The question is who is keeping the PUC honest?
@derschwartzadder
@derschwartzadder 8 ай бұрын
Several thousand feet of copper ain't cheap. Especially at primary gauges
@rexhavoc2982
@rexhavoc2982 7 ай бұрын
I'am surprised they did not require Bollards around the transformer. Save the bull tape. 20 foot chunks in the truck comes in handy.
@AntonioClaudioMichael
@AntonioClaudioMichael 6 ай бұрын
Atleast for the 52k they showed up in full force as a army and Got it done in less then 3 hours 36:02 @Diesel Creek
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