Another sorry sight from yesteryear. Went with my young son PJ. Apologies for commentry errors, I was only an ameature then,,,,,,,,,,Still am !! SEE ALSO. Vic Berry's Scrapyard 1987
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@johnhodgkinson71475 ай бұрын
The tour of the brake van brought back some happy memories of my first two years on the job as a freight guard at Toton. Apart from the ballast jobs, we had lots of colliery work to pits like Rufford,Clipstone, and jobs to Wellingborough and Tinsley. Great in summer, and bearable in winter,IF you could scrounge enough wood, coal for the stove, and paraffin for the tail lamps. ( And to light the stove, of course)!!😊
@MandoMohan10 жыл бұрын
I was a freight guard out of Cambridge ('77, '78), grew up around March and just was made so joyful at seeing inside one of my old guard vans all designed with vacuum brakes for which the guards's van had a release valve so we could stretch out the old 3 linkers. Brilliant video! Thank you so much!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome. Thank you for viewing and enjoying the memory
@BrianSeaman8 жыл бұрын
I loved your tour of the old guards van - I've never seen inside one so thanks for the grand tour. You've captured a moment in rail history even if it is a sad sight to see, so thank you for sharing your films.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
+Brian Seaman So glad I recorded this and Vic Berry's. Brings back so many memories.
@MK55A11 жыл бұрын
Went here in August 1988 when the Class 45's were here, the foreman at the time asked if we had our master keys on us, because we worked at Holbeck. He explained that when most of the loco's had arrived, the drivers just shut down the loco's, they were still full of water, oil and fuel and they would have started up. Two were running in the yard at the time but were not allowed off the depot. Nice footage.
@frankbarrington32786 жыл бұрын
sad to see all these old class 45s, i either drove, or was second man on them when based at holbeck.
@TheCastleMarch4 жыл бұрын
frank barrington nice
@soulman35903 ай бұрын
You were so privileged to be driving in that era. I loved the variety of locos that were about in the 70's/80's. Still love them now. I've just retired from driving class 444's/450's/455's/458's etc. Hate them as I hate modern trains. I drove veps, cigs and ceps. They were the good days on the railway. I used to go to Bescot. I still have pictures of all the 31's awaiting scrap and that was about 35 years ago. They don't last long as time flies. I also used to go to M.C Metals and Boothes. The sights of them all being cut up was heartbreaking (for me anyway). I also remember as a kid spotting at St Pancras when the peaks were in service, Deltics at King's X and Class 86's etc out of Euston. I love all of those memories and wish I could turn back time. It's all changed for the worst but that's coz I love the old railways and the good times.
@DiddlyDom10 жыл бұрын
Superb video,i remember going to March one cold and frosty morning to look around the scrap line with my Dad and his mate Alan who used to be a fireman on the steam locos,he used to work out of Kings Lynn to March on a regular basis. Thanks for posting,it brings back great memories!!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
Pleased to oblige mate. Memories are a special part of life
@TheKilroyman5 жыл бұрын
Despite the majority in favour of steam locomotive preservation, many of the older diesel locomotives had a charm to them, especially the Deltic. I swear I can see Mavis from Thomas and Friends when looking at the 03s. XD Also, seeing those 08s lined up for scrapping is just heartbreaking. The 08s are the most successful diesel shunters ever built and there dozens still in service and in preservation including the first one built. Diesels didn't get as much love due to the overall majority in favour of steam locomotives. Scrapping the old diesels went almost unnoticed compared to the scrapping of steam locomotives
@philiprufus4427 Жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a small boy and being taken into Glasgow St Enoch or Central and to see a diesel was exciting. They were just being introduced on main line trains. Although the yard at the end of my street had an 08 and an 040 Barclay . The iron ore trains were handled by Austerities sometimes a 280 paired with a 2 10 0 which apparently were unique to Scotland,both being buillt in NB Loco which shut in 1962. From the railway wall you could actually see the ore ships and massive unloading cranes. Little trace of any of it now,whole area including the docks is covered with house's,American Style Dinners and a Multi Plex. Prettry Dull. Those Austerities pulling a train out could be heard from Dawsholm Park Apparently.Thats about three mile away on the other side of the River Clyde. Glasgow was an exciting place to a mechanically minded kid in those days, no wonder the late Robbie Coltrane was an Enthusiast. Met him once,great guy.
@mattorr775 жыл бұрын
Just done some reading up on 45022 Lytham St Annes. It had been in the yard since July, and in September (after this was taken) it left the yard to assist with the northern end of the ECML electrification, renumbered 97409 for this purpose. It survived until October of 1991.
@des_smith76586 ай бұрын
I last saw this in St Pancras loco, each one a friend..
@eaglevp12 жыл бұрын
It's great that you are putting all this archive material on youtube for all to view,some great memories Keith.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. Sure does bring a tear to ones eye. I do have a class 45 cabside number. Hopefully one day it will fetch a very good price.
@andrewderrett81092 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to sell it?.
@delticbob699310 жыл бұрын
Very glad you recorded these loco's - I still think that although these loco's were old, they still had many years of use in them - they should have been refurbished - but changing times dictated otherwise - Many thanks.
@class_31clag Жыл бұрын
It Is a shame but the availability of these older diesels were dropping by the day but still shame so many were scraped with lots of life left in them
@orangepatriot8511 жыл бұрын
i wish there were more of the older locos going through Bristol. we only seem to get 60's, 66's, 70's and occasionally the odd 56 and a 37 on a wednesday carrying nuclear waste. i can remember seeing 58's, 47's 37's and 56's all the time.
@bigadefourfiveonezeroseven40634 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories,when visited there, sad site to see glad you captured it on video👍
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@plane1510 жыл бұрын
Quite eerie seeing all those old engines, imagine how many journeys they have been on. I miss those old BR colours.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
How interesting. Thanks for that.
@philmorse21212 жыл бұрын
Nice video, those were the days when railway locos had class.. Went to March possibly same year or maybe earlier, can remember taking photos of the Peaks. Thanx for the memories. 👍
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@philmorse21212 жыл бұрын
@@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Thank you for replying, and keep enjoying the trains. 👍
@Sam_Green____41147 жыл бұрын
After you filmed this some of these 45s were resurrected and given a new lease of life with a 97 xxx number .I can`t remember how many but it must have a least four or five .The best ones were chosen and they worked for at least another year or a year and a half at most .they definitely worked through 1988 until about early 89 .They were restricted to about 45 mph ,I think ,and for use on ballast trains and engineers trains only to and from the sight of the work. Mainly weekends and in the Peterborough and Ely areas . Although I remembered seeing one hauling the scrap train from Snailwell into Whitemoor yard which was a commercial freight .Which was a suprise and a bonus . It was scrap material chopped up and carried in old 16t mineral wagons.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS7 жыл бұрын
I don't think I knew that but cant really remember now.. Thank you
@Sam_Green____41147 жыл бұрын
I `ve edited my comment a bit because the memories keep flooding back in snippets ! It was so long ago now ! I remembered they were restricted in speed ,then remembered seeing one on the freight from Snailwell
@LektroiD3 жыл бұрын
I used to go here as a young teenager with my friend. Video brings back so many memories
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS3 жыл бұрын
Shame half the are is now a prison. thanks for comment
@mikeytrains16 жыл бұрын
And yet their predecessors had met the same fate twenty years before...
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
thank you verty much
@chefowen55thackeray5510 жыл бұрын
Was a trainspotter late 70s to early 80s what great memories.what a v sad sight to see all these locos ready to be scrapped.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
Hear Hear. Very sad indeed. Thank you
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@eaglevp Thanks Keith.. It's nice that people are showing an intertest. It makes it all worth while
@waldenhouse8 жыл бұрын
All I ever think of when I see these videos (apart from the sadness of destruction) is how many lives the building of these saved, working in the factories, depots and warehouses, manufacturing, inventories, stores, staff, canteens, wages & mortgages paid, overtime worked, families supported etc etc! Nice video, but quite sad.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
+RMLectronics East Yorks Very good comment sir.. Thank you very much
@Pmjs6 жыл бұрын
The old Guard's van was used on Freight Trains before Driver Only. My Dad was a Freight Guard at Millerhill. The 2of us were Conductor's at Waverley.
@flippop1015 жыл бұрын
What a great vid! Hard to accept though!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@eaglevp Thanks Keith. So pleased that others are showing an interest. Makes it all worthwhile
@NGAUGEMICKVIDS201111 жыл бұрын
Great one Keith took me back years ( only 15 ha ha ) what a video for the youngster looking for history or even the likes of me
@DarrensVlog12 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video!
@europeandiecastracing21284 жыл бұрын
25202 had already been stripped of parts at both Derby and Stratford before reaching March, so parts that were interchangeable with other classes, like instruments and seats where probably removed there. I would have loved to have seen inside the steam heat boiler van at 1:41 on the right hand side, they always fascinated me, but very little has ever been written about them.
@sandydogy8 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for uploading, your lad looks same age as I was in 1987 about 8
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
+sandydogy Yes he was. Thanks for view and comment
@orangepatriot8511 жыл бұрын
nice video mate. i miss those old beasts
@NiallMS16 жыл бұрын
An ignominious end to some great locos and rolling stock!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Dont we all. Thank goodness some are preserved.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Stay young at heart and you'll be forever young....We hope.
@kevinchestney20758 жыл бұрын
Visited March many times in the 1980's, particularly the hump marshalling yard. The German style control towers built in the 1930's were very interesting. Nothing left now as a Prison built on the land.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
Oh, Did not know about the prison.. Lots of memories we both have then
@gameoholic19946 жыл бұрын
Meh... The steam engine scrapyards are more heartbreaking than the diesel ones.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS6 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but probably the younger generation who grew up with diesels would have a different opinion
@mikeytrains16 жыл бұрын
gameoholic1994 Deltic scrap lines are amazingly as heartbreaking as the steam engine scraplines. Though I wouldn’t knownthat, it’s my opinion.
@aestheticcruise88075 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a steam locomotive, I put myself in the shoes of all the engineers who developed those amazing machines that brought people to new places never achieved by the antiquated horse buggy.. sadly now in this generation, steamies are completely antiquated and most are near extinction... :(
@realdavidii5 жыл бұрын
STEAM RULES!!!!!!!!!
@rmgilyard Жыл бұрын
😯 WTH, diesels have their place on earth too! Diesels always seem to be placed last place after steam engines. Why can’t people show a little compassion to diesels, they may not huff or puff, but they don’t need to, they helped with saving costs and measured heavy loads freely. I’m so sad that they’re going away soon. 😢
@MK55A11 жыл бұрын
Drove that a few times, they were all good locomotives.
@Sam_Green____41147 жыл бұрын
I saw 25 202 idling in at Peterborough New England yard a few weeks before this was filmed .it was the last Class 25 I ever saw working on BR . It made its way to March depot under it`s own power and was switched off .
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS7 жыл бұрын
Sad days eh.
@paulbennett29026 жыл бұрын
What a horrible sight but a well recorded visit !
@beeble200312 жыл бұрын
Of the ones where I could read the numbers, 45112 (2:22 and 4:57), 03158 (4:57), 03084 (5:04) and 45118 (6:14) have been preserved. The rest were almost certainly scrapped. The snail on a lot of the 45s was something Tinsley depot did in those days.
@ewoodrailway5 жыл бұрын
I payed a visit in 1993, sadly most had gone but it was odd to see the 08 in the middle of the trees ..think it was 427
@MikesMovies10 жыл бұрын
Great video on a sad subject! well done
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
Well the saying goes... Time marches on...But wish we could av saved more
@PreservationEnthusiast9 жыл бұрын
+SMILEVIDEOTRAINS I have just checked the number of preserved class 37's - 48 of them and counting. 33 class 47's - do we need these huge numbers - are they sustainable in the long term?
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS9 жыл бұрын
Seems they are mate. So long as there are enthusiast with plenty of money to keep them running....The will remain.
@PreservationEnthusiast9 жыл бұрын
SMILEVIDEOTRAINS A lot of these diesels rusting away on the sidings of heritage lines though. I am not sure of the overall need for this number.
@lewis729 жыл бұрын
+heelfan1234 Surely what you think is irrelevant !!
@PreservationEnthusiast9 жыл бұрын
Lewis72 It's about as relevant as what you think! As time goes by I think some owners may well sell back for scrap. The amount of preservation is too big to fund or support this level of heritage diesel traction.
@ashfaq19993 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Video, Sad To See These Legends Going To Scrap.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS3 жыл бұрын
it's murder. and they are still doping it.....
@ashfaq19993 жыл бұрын
@@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS yes definitely, but good too see some still appearing at train shows & gala’s.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@TheAnorak1 Cheers mate. Yes I got loads of stuff but mainly Gala's at Preserved Railways. Takes quite a bit of time to re-vamp them but they will appear from time to time,
@michaelnaisbitt16395 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand this. Diesels cost millions to make and only last 10-15 years before scrapping. Steam locos regularly ran for 40-50-60 years surely a better rate of return. Or are the modern diesels being scrapped because of the ever diminishing rail network and freight and are therefore surplus. Either revamp them or sell them overseas
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for viewing and comment
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Well I'm lucky in my area co's we get a great variety of loco's within a 50 mile radius plus a number of old timers and steam on preserved lines. Thanks for view and comment
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@TrainSpotter365501 This was years ago when there was virtually no restrictions.
@gazzab32245 жыл бұрын
It's sad to see any loco looking like this. Weather it's steam , diesel or electric. Shame about the guards vans also.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
Yes, intersting comment...Time is the main factor I think. Thank you
@joncrawford34854 жыл бұрын
Bit late to the party here but oddly - 45112 - as of 08/08/2020 - is currently mainline registered. So maybe the snail @ 2:29 brought her some luck :)
@121Jaykay11 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I wonder why those old coaches have not been preserved?
@Bolivar2012able6 жыл бұрын
Probably have! This is a very old video. Vic Berry's Scrapyard shut down about 15/20 years ago. He Literally bought the loco's and just cut up all the old coal wagons. A lot of class 20's have benn refurbished, both with the old Sulzer and newer German Engines. Just watch Dereks Video's he is always catching a convoy going to some diesel or Steam Weekend.
@whitemoor6611 жыл бұрын
Just found this super, if sad, video of yours Keith. My Dads old workplace, where he used to take me when I was a small boy. Have you got any more video or photos of the actual depot?
@johnebigguns8 жыл бұрын
Remember seen the 45's coming out of Derby works brand new 'Peak"class as we knew them in the late 50's & early 60's ....Ironic really as then at Derby there where lines of steamers ready for the torch...
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
Yup.. Interesting stuff.
@ericwilliamson44010 жыл бұрын
what a shame to let magnificent machines left to rot
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Thank goodness we did preserve a few. Thank you for comment
@CullenRick9 жыл бұрын
Before they were stripped blind then towed off for scrap. Glad a couple of them survived.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS9 жыл бұрын
Richard Cullen Agree and thank you
@realdavidii5 жыл бұрын
Me when diesels are scrapped: meh, don't care *Me when steam locomotives are scrapped: *crying loudly**
@rockabilly3755 жыл бұрын
I guess it all depends on what era you grew up in
@lennoxschannel7484 Жыл бұрын
Me when steam engines get attention: Ob Gah! That’s so much love! Me when diesels don’t get much attention: I’m wish I could do you a favor.
@paulmartin64536 жыл бұрын
Made me loco shed a tear
@4vepvik7816 жыл бұрын
Would You believe they are scrapping Eurostars now!!😲😲
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS6 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely. Money seems no object at all. The talk about millions these days as if it a couple of bob.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Just the sort of thing that happens in this country...We have loads of loco's sitting idle, just need care and attention and we buy Class 70's from overseas.
@ewloe0111 жыл бұрын
so so sad! but interesting as well!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@shazam75 T'is sad. I wish I'd done more photography in the 70's 80's
@daveflavell44083 жыл бұрын
A very sad scene indeed, great old footage though
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS3 жыл бұрын
thank you
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
I guess there is a big surplus
@baniorztrains50544 жыл бұрын
dzięki kolego!
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS12 жыл бұрын
@sam8alex12 Thanks. Theres a lot of interest in this old stuff.
@joethetrainphotographerint86782 жыл бұрын
Sad to see them like that. So long ago now
@johnyounger8389 Жыл бұрын
As a spotter born in 1960 this is sad
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Жыл бұрын
YES. and still scrapping perfectly good stock unnecessarily
@johnyounger8389 Жыл бұрын
@@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS You are the man, hope your lady is good
@Fcutdlady5 жыл бұрын
By the way, were these scrapped on site or were they moved to yards such as Vic Berry's
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS5 жыл бұрын
Long time ago.. I think they were moved to various locations for scrapping over quite a long period of time. Thank you
@RPKGameVids8 жыл бұрын
Wow, I started secondary school around then.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
+RPKVids Was lovely place to visit. Thanks
@thehstman11 жыл бұрын
Great Video Mate A Sorry Site Mate Do U Have A List Of All The Loco's Mate Please Mate?
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
No, sorry Andy. Only did vids in those days
@frankbarrington32786 жыл бұрын
the class 03s, that where there, i was on the train that dragged them from Norwich.
@stuartpattison15766 жыл бұрын
This what privatising the railways did. A lot of these engines had millions spent on them not long before. sad
@nlo1149 жыл бұрын
A shame indeed. However when you look closely, a lot of these locos are life-expired, rusting through from the inside, knackered engines and frames etc. To give them to a developing country would be as patronising as posting off a pair of your old dirty trainers to the same country. Refurbish and sell by all means, like the 86's to Hungary etc. Every year I watch the HST's / I-C 125's get older and tattier, body panels rusting out, fittings wearing out. We will soon be weeping over their demise, but I hope the best ones get saved into preservation.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS9 жыл бұрын
+nlo114 With electrification coming in I understand that HST's will go to Scotland so there is life in the old dogs yet. Thanks for commenting
@lewis729 жыл бұрын
+SMILEVIDEOTRAINS Paddington to the West still isn't electrified.
@mickhargan32647 жыл бұрын
nlo114
@rog376856 жыл бұрын
Woah soo many locos
@andrewsewell91793 жыл бұрын
I remember March well a loco grave yard
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS3 жыл бұрын
yup and good locos and stock are still being murdered and replaced with uncomfortable trains. Just my opinion
@Branch17012 жыл бұрын
Buen material de archivo,,,!!!
@MetrobusChris11 жыл бұрын
Hi there why did the 40's and 45's Peaks Etc were scrapped early I'm starting to like these old beasts but I'm a class 37 fan :)
@Bolivar2012able6 жыл бұрын
60's 70's locos have character with their Sulzer, Maybach, or Pax Valenta engines. Everything since are just bland boxes on rails.
@user-zw5ye3mg4m8 ай бұрын
逝去的不仅仅是机车,也是一去不复返的时代
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 ай бұрын
👍👍
@kevingoodrum53525 жыл бұрын
what suprised me that there were no class 47's based and MR (March) and the old stream shed code was 31B for stream the main area for stabling loco's was on Norwood road near the fueling point
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I have no idea.
@thunderboltisthebest2 жыл бұрын
YES
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS2 жыл бұрын
thank you lots.
@Embracing013 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't allow people to go mooching round a train scrap yard today, health and safety would have a fit.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS3 жыл бұрын
yes you are correct. We also visited Vic Berry's scrap yard which is on here. thank you
@Mil_Sim_Matty6 жыл бұрын
So many peaks 😞
@michaelhampton94939 жыл бұрын
I'm looking at a Class 25 which is really a Class 45 Divi.
@muttt.whopull32524 жыл бұрын
Where did all the work that all these locos here and other scrap lines at other depots go to?
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS4 жыл бұрын
Suggest you look it up on the Internet.. One big one was at Barry Island. Other was Vic Berrys scrapyard at Leicester. You can see my rare film if you search my channell.Just type in the search bar....Vic berrys Scrapyard
@funkyvictoria57364 жыл бұрын
Good
@timgrist96498 жыл бұрын
It's a crying shame to see them in the state.
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
Rotten to the core.
@annescholey65464 жыл бұрын
Want past March late in 1993. Last opportunity.
@railwayfansingongyi64176 жыл бұрын
Very well
@MrMegamicheal39 жыл бұрын
seen it now my your voice is different from how it is today
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS9 жыл бұрын
michael west I guess it's co's I drink more these days. lol
@MrMegamicheal39 жыл бұрын
SMILEVIDEOTRAINS NO IT'S COS YOUR OLDER NOW AND YOUR VOICE HAS BECOME WEAKER FAILING THAT IT'S TO MUCH WHISKEY HA
@Fcutdlady5 жыл бұрын
It's not always just vandals. They could have had some stripping done for spare parts too.
@anthonydavies524810 жыл бұрын
What were the snails painted over the number??
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS10 жыл бұрын
If you go to your search engine. Type in. 45112 Diesel locomotive snail. You should be able to find out about it. I think it is associated with a part of the locomotive engine.
@bus1317 жыл бұрын
such a shame to see them all sitting there waiting to go to the grave. The more saddening thing is the next mass exodus like this will be for the HST Fleet, a day I'm not looking forward too
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS7 жыл бұрын
Thought they were going to be shortened and sent to Scotland eventually. Cheers a lot
@oddities-whatnot8 жыл бұрын
Would any of them still start? Just curious
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
Dunno at the time of filming....All gone now anyway.
@abbeymaddox31147 жыл бұрын
were is the place located?howd u get in there?
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS7 жыл бұрын
Sorry it's not there anymore.
@abbeymaddox31147 жыл бұрын
SMILEVIDEOTRAINS oh ok but thx for telling me
@JheoFaul667098 жыл бұрын
This is too sad...
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS8 жыл бұрын
Afraid everything is born or made and must eventually die,
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Hear hear....
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS11 жыл бұрын
Yes, true, Now the government write it in everything we use and do...lol