Fasting may help kidney function

A new study reports that a fasting mimicking diet can help the kidney function for people with type 2 diabetes and early kidney disease. It can also help with weight loss and blood sugar, but there are some important caveats to consider.
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[@lornahowerton1379]

I reversed my Stage 3 Cronic Kidney Disease to normal function with Keto and Intermittent Fasting.

[@emiliapoprawa5962]

Could you please share your story?

[@emiliapoprawa5962]

Could you please share your story?

[@lornahowerton1379]

I started in 2001 knowing I had Metabolic Syndrome and insulin resistance. I diligently followed the keto diet and fasting lifestyle for 2yrs. The next routine check of my kidneys showed normal kidney function. After being Stage. 3 Chronic Kidney Disease since 2015. It took a year to get my liver health enough to have significant weight loss, but I stuck with it because it made sense for my healy. I've lost 25lbs and still normal kidney function. Good luck on your healthy lifestyle.

[@TC-vc7oe]

@@lornahowerton1379 Congrats! You are an inspiration!

[@cryptodeath854]

@@lornahowerton1379what form of intermittent fasting did you use?.. 16/8, 18/6, 5/2..etc. thanks and congrats.

[@thomasbradley512]

What has worked for me, has been full-time intermittent fasting 15:9. My last meal is at 5 p.m. and my next meal will not be until 8 a.m. the next morning. Breakfast at 8 lunch at 11 dinner at 5. Once per month I do a fat fast. This consists of 2 tbsp of olive oil three times a day plus 1 tsp three times of ghee. Just over 900 calories per day. I do this for 48 hours. Do not exceed seventy-two hours.

[@jenniferbruce7201]

I experienced this in real life. I did an extended fast as a hail Mary last effort, and I saw my kidney disease move into remission.

[@seanwalden5213]

how long of fast?

[@jenniferbruce7201]

@@seanwalden5213 My 1st fast was 14 days.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@jenniferbruce7201 😏 WOW ❕️

[@jenniferbruce7201]

I give credit to Dr Jason Fung. His KZbin and books inspired me

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@jenniferbruce7201 - Yes indeed ... 👌

[@MR.FACTSS214]

People fasting should be a way of life 16/8 it becomes part of life i dont even feel im fasting anymore my body adapted to it🙏🙏

[@DK-pr9ny]

Then it’s no longer considered fasting as your body adapts to it..

[@MR.FACTSS214]

@DK-pr9ny if you not eating for a long period you fasting

[@rebeccaarcher5139]

I cannot wait to listen to this! My type 1 diabetic husband with huge low-carb successes had stage 1 or 2 kidney failure. Of course, he was told KETO was “dangerous” and fasting? Horrible! Stupid! Suicidal practically! Tests no show NO kidney damage but still…can’t wait to see you put normal medical advice on its ear…again!!!!!

[@Vincent-qh7zz]

Fasting mimicking and intermittent fasting changed my CKD from stage 4 to stage 2, and I lost 45 lbs. 🎉

[@kamaronbrown]

Please share your story! What is your diet & were you also working out?

[@Vincent-qh7zz]

@@kamaronbrown You cannot exercise vigorously while fasting. Short walks are fine. Drs Jason Fung and Volter Longo teach fasting.

[@user-um7tw6kx4r6]

You're helping so many people by putting this info out there!

[@jamescalifornia2964]

~ Just did 5-day fasting. Very calming experience ... 😌

[@SimiAcheronsDemon]

Well my kidney function increased from 45% in 2019 (was 21 year T2D) before Keto and Carnivore now since almost 3 years Carnivore it is 70% with 1 kidney left due to a kidney surgery (removal of a shrunken kidney) in 2011. I‘m off my T2D medication since June 2020. Lost 40+ kilogram. I do OMAD and once in a while a 48 hour fast.

[@SmartWizzard]

OMAD is the best diet schedule for anyone and one suffering from a chronic disease. But my worry is doctor won't approve any keto or fasting diets.

[@SimiAcheronsDemon]

@@SmartWizzard my doc didn’t approve first too but that I wanted to try it. I got diagnosed with a non-alcoholic fatty liver around June/July 2019 and going Keto was the best option for me to reverse the non-alcoholic fatty liver since I didn’t a future with dialysis and a kidney transplant due to my diabetes nor wanted I to be on a liver transplant list. I researched Keto for almost 2 1/2 month before I decided this is my way this was September 28, 2019. My doc wasn’t really happy with my decision but my body my decision. In the time before I switched Carnivore at December 6, 2019 I researched the Carnivore lifestyle cause I transitioned slowly to Carnivore not because I wanted it so bad but cause my body decided it for me. The way my body decided it was not liking the Keto approved veggies, berries or goods baked with nut flours. What it wanted was protein and healthy fats like butter, tallow, lard, goose fat, bacon fat. When I told my doc that I switched to Carnivore she was staggered but when she saw the results she was ok with my decision. She still is asking me if I‘m still on this weird diet and I say always yes. Another doctor took a test and so I found out that I‘m carbohydrate intolerant. I reduced my medication intake from daily 10 prescription drugs before Keto and Carnivore to 1 prescription drug daily. Talk to your doc and when your doc is against it find another doc with more knowledge who will work with you to give Keto a try and don’t see only the dollar signs when the doc looks at you. I know a lot of doc’s who have KZbin channels and approve trying Keto and Carnivore and don’t see the dollar signs when they see their patients. Contact Dr. Sten Ekberg, Ken D. Berry or Shawn Baker they might can you give the address of an Keto/Carnivore friendly doc who will work with you. All 3 doc’s I mentioned have KZbin channels. Ken D. Berry usually shares useful studies and every studie he talks about in his videos to the show notes so we can read it ourselves and learn and usually you can print those studies out for your doc to read. The best way to heal is to educate one self and go prepared with knowledge and printed studies to the next doc appointment. Ken D. Berry is the author of the book Lies My Doctor Told Me. It is ver educational and debunking a lot of myths still used by doc’s to make their patients fearful to asked if the doc would help them to try another approach. There is still the myth to much salt is the culprit for high blood pressure or cholesterol is bad and the cholesterol we ingest with our food is bad and so on.

[@yt091]

WoW I am inspired!! I have hi cholesterol, suffered 9 strokes and a heart attack in 2017. I have been fasting since Nov 25 last year. Feb 5 I went for a lipid panel test. My trig/HDL was .77 which is fantastic. I'm 63

[@helendillard7784]

Thank you, Dr Scher. Important info, and so glad for Rebecca’s husband.

[@johnmadany9829]

I questioned the benefits of fasting when not fat adapted. When I was fat adapted I did a DEXA scan for body composition before I learned about fasting. After doing intermittent fasting I only lost visceral fat. I was already insulin sensitive. My good days are my fasting days. I did some fasting for religious reasons many years ago. I did not know anything about the physiology of fasting. I would always try and fast on days when I had low demands both physically and mentally. Now it is the opposite. If my back is against the wall I do not eat!

[@littlevoice_11]

It also increases BDNF which is essential for cognition and protective when it comes to age related cognitive decline.

[@dcmarvelunited5529]

OMAD is the way to go. Lost 14 pounds in 5 weeks.

[@ThePresentation010]

It depends Kiddo. Not everyone can do omad. If your job is to basically sit or chill, then yeah, omad can be easily be done.

[@kurakuson]

2-MAD

[@dcmarvelunited5529]

@@ThePresentation010 actually sit and chill is alot harder. Constantly moving around is alot easier. It gets your mind off food

[@yellowfuchsia1]

I'm glad you found success on OMAD but, when I tried it, it made me unwell. I don't think my digestion could cope with one large meal. However, I do fine on two meals a day. As ever, it's about finding what works for each of us individually.

[@Jules_Jules]

OMAD WITH LCHF IS THE WAY TO GO, EITHER YOU SIT AROUND AND DOING NOTHING OR WORK YOUR GUTS OUT FROM 7AM TO 5PM, IT DOES WORK! I PROVED IT MYSELF🙂👌

[@edwcnj1]

Decreasing HgA1c reduces the constant attack on the tissues that higher levels cause. Fasting and low carb/keto are definite protectors of overall health.

[@GianniVitucci]

You do great vids/podcast. Especially love your objectivity and not buying in to every study rather pointing out the flaws of said study as well. I am not diabetic however my aic is probably higher than I want it to be. All my pcps and other drs i see give me the "oh don't worry about it its fine" . Yeah fine for them, its me that will have to live with it and I don't want to. They are ok with , if i get there there are meds for that.

[@clavo3352]

I trained as a teacher. Sure would like to see that which you think important be written on a dry erase board. It helps the listener recall and impress the long term memory. You have greatly important information !!

[@kamalsultana1014]

After 6 months fasting my hbaic is 6.2 to 5.8..and creatine 1.7 to 1.2

[@WishZyrus]

what fasting you do 16/8 or extended fast?

[@anneangstadt1882]

Would be interesting to know what their regular ("optimized according to current guidelines" ) consisted of vs the Med diet

[@perrysebastian6928]

Five days of fasting per month is not a small effort for someone with a potential carb addiction concern. Compliance measurement must be a part of these studies. We have the tools to do that, CGMs and heart rate monitors, will indicate for example, high excursions of BG that would indicate some insulin production; which in turn would indicate a shift from a fasted to a fed state

[@freetrailer4poor]

Fasting is a good start to a new diet. After 2 days no hunger. You can then eat salads and be happy.

[@BeckyBlanton]

Can you add a link to the study?

[@kalkeikuu]

Do we have proteinuria because we are low on HCL or stomach acid?

[@MrSpecialized75]

Love your work Bret. Can you please do a video on the randle cycle.... With a focus on average times for the body to switch from higher and lower percentages of Fat burning... pretty please🙏

[@user-on6ck6ep1w]

Diet Doctor ... sometimes you say "5 days of Fasting" ... when I think you mean "5 days of intermittent fasting' ...also how was the intermittent fasting done...i..e, was 16 hours, 20 hours of no eating. And was the 5 days intermittent fasting done over 5 consecutive days or spread out over the month?...thank you...very helpful.

[@ouradventures1024]

Ok people I’ve had kidney issues all my life swelling protein urine nothing els was left but by fasting I noticed one big thing my swelling wud go away so eating one’s a day and drinking 2 3 cups water or tea been fine for me

[@ouinono6675]

هل شفيت من نزول البروتين في البول . وما هو الدواء المناسب

[@ouradventures1024]

@@ouinono6675 eating one meal a day drink rose flower tea

[@ukelilly]

Do you have a video/info on Fasting and cancer ( esp Lung non small cell & Kidney Lymphoma ) ? i have done a 1 day fast but not more. I like to do a 3 or 5 day fast but couldnt stand being hungry. I tried drinking water with some link salt..dont remember if it helped. thx

[@ohkabomb917]

Does this work also for non-diabetic CKD? OR is it only for diabetic nepropathy?

[@The_Gallowglass]

I keep trying to get my dad to try a keto diet with intermittent fasting. He has a huge sweet tooth and has diabetes and starting to get retinopathy.

[@tourdelance3698]

Is He talking about 5 days in a row? Thanks 🙏🏻

[@deshia1471]

No one ever talks about PKD. 😢 I wish there was more information about the inherited form of kidney disease.

[@slayerment]

From what I have seen the same diet and fasting done for CKD works for PKD also.

[@eh235]

No! The mediterranean diet and fasting mimicking diet had a major difference in outcome. The people who stayed on a Mediterranean diet seen very little difference compared to the fasting mimicking diet who had huge gains showing fasting works.

[@robinbeers6689]

There are as many definitions of "Mediterranean Diet" as there are diet related studies.

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

Once upon a time, NASA required astronauts to do as many things as possible and pack their schedules as tightly as possible, in the space anyway, because the time in the space is so valuable. Then, 3 exceptional astronauts protested in the space for break time, break day I mean, which NASA had to agree no matter what, because they were in the space. One day off. Then the 3 astronauts finished all planned assignment earlier than the well planned super tightly packed schedule. Give your body/stomach/liver/organs a break, except maybe the super Uber hard working heart...

[@ytbeLaw]

What do you think about a water-only, 5-day fast?

[@anavas7684]

I think u need some type of protein like meat atleast which aren't carbs . Could work .

[@freetrailer4poor]

Hunch it would be better than mimicking. You maybe could also have small salad, apple, and maybe salmon as a snack.

[@heyyou2104]

Go for it, just a bit if salt in the water to help the electrolytes

[@richiprosadmistry414]

Anytime I see research study results with FMD, It makes me suspicious as FMD seems to be a marketing gimmick.

[@mariaantoniaramunnoloumari1797]

What does it mean 5 days fasting Can you please explain I interpret it 5 days not eating at all Is that correct I would appreciate your response Thank you

[@mikefeddersen2476]

I'm not sure he really knew, he guessed they did a 700 calorie low 10% protein diet. When I fasted it was water and my multivitamin, a bit of No Salt(potassium) and pink Himalayan sea salt. Check into water fasting.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

@@mikefeddersen2476 - Just did the same thing myself - 5-day fasting. Electrolytes are important 👌

[@cryptodeath854]

I believe the “Fasting Mimicking Diet” allows 600 cals on your fasting days. So not a water fast as many think. You get most of the benefits of fasting with the negative side effects..hunger, difficulty, and you give your body some needed nutrients.

[@carolinecollins2441]

It's most likely Dr. Valter Longo's Fasting Mimicking Diet.

[@agr8h2o]

👍👍

[@ouradventures1024]

If your slow fast

[@methanial73]

Is it true that by time you can detect kidney damage it's too late and it can't be remedied? This seems to suggest otherwise.

[@dietdoctor]

Our kidney guide may be helpful for you! www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/kidney-health

[@slayerment]

It can absolutely be remedied. People do it all the time.

[@andrepatterson7058]

What diet do you recommend for a person with stage 3 kidney problem 🤔

[@dietdoctor]

This guide may be helpful for you! www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/kidney-health

[@kirshens]

Took my awhile to realize fasting =fasting mimicking diet. Why not sponsor some food studies.

[@nobueno8652]

Can fasting eat my kidney stones?

[@timm285]

I love fasting

[@KenJackson_US]

Do you mean you love the results it gives you? Or do you actually enjoy some feeling you get?

[@timm285]

@@KenJackson_US I enjoy the results and the feeling. I can fast for 24+ hours. I almost never get low blood sugar. If I skip a meal it’s not the end of the world

[@KenJackson_US]

I love the knowledge that autophagy is destroying the bad and repairing the good, @@timm285. But I can't actually tell that it's happening. Though I'll say I find it easier to not eat anything at all than it is to limit and restrict my eating.

[@timm285]

@@KenJackson_US I guess we just have to trust that it’s happening. Autophagy is supposed to help with joint pain and injuries as well. That’s one way to gauge it.

[@maragrace820]

A chinese Acupuncturist says heart beat is related to kidneys. 70 is perfect. if higher you have kidney disfunction. during fasting mine was 107 resting

[@jodyjackson5475]

I’ve had tachycardia for two years. Recent kidney test shows eGFR poor

[@tomdalton4016]

It was fasting mimicking not fasting like to see true fasting results compared to these

[@dicksyphilis3914]

You’re not going to lose protein if you’re not eating anything. You have to be eating to lose protein.

[@hermanharper4594]

To much saturated fats and meat protein common sense.

[@mistysmith5392]

Not a very good study. I think a long water fast and a controlled plant based diet would show significant improvement. Not jus reducing caloric intake for five days a month and then letting people eat bacon, etc. for the rest of the month. Ridiculous. If you have kidney disease your diet got you there in the first place.

[@hermanharper4594]

It's not the meat you eat it's the junk poison you not eating. Eat Real food not to much mostly plants. Common sense

[@ThePresentation010]

Just coming to say something real quick. Of course fasting helps. When you fast certain body processes take a rest. Duh.

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

Depends on your goals, lifestyle, sport. Want to grow and want to be a 400lb strongman competitor you might need to wake up in the middle of the night to eat : ) even a lot of young bodybuilders and powerlifters have to ensure they are eating ever two hours. Also for my type 1 diabetics frequent eating is important. For my anorexic patients, fasting can kill. Fasting is not for everyone. For many, just the normal stop eating a couple hours before sleep, then 8 hours of sleep is enough.

[@eugeniebreida1583]

@@DrAJ_LatinAmerica I agree with Dr AJ, for me my largest challenge is NOT Losing weight. Info is difficult for we low bmi types (am 63yrs), as somehow or another so many ‘modern’ people are so extraordinarily overweight. I am in awe of their morbidity. If I could, I would gain 15 pounds of muscle And subcutaneous fat. This would add to my longterm health. It is so frustrating seeking out optimal health in these crazy societies/online forums where seemingly everyone neither moves enough, not exercises good judgment regarding what/when/how much they pop into their mouths. I am very sorry for those who are following horrible habits created by their families . . . but must say I was raised on pb&j’s on white bread, canned fruit (but fresh bananas), frozen foods/veggies, burgers/hot dogs etc. When I turned eighteen I attended college in colorado, where the veggie salad bar ruled . . . and my athletic lifestyle was further enhanced - all good for next 40 years of health. Yes, I was an omnivore, but nothing was wrapped/canned - except el vino roja ; ) and aged cheeses. Yum. I was also raised on sugary chocolatey packaged candy . . . left that in the dust as well. I took a very strict hardcore diet when I was a working girl at 18, kinda drastic, but short term. These days it might be called a teeny tiny OMAD (but the ‘food’ was a couple of saltines and some applesauce (what work cafeteria had). I basically starved myself, jogged, tennis, etc until 118lbs (from 130lbs or so?) One other time I got back to a heavy weight ? 135? . . . was bumming about a guy and overdoing the ‘health food’ yogurt/kefir/nuts etc - ‘emotional eating’. When I realized my plight (fav dress didn’t fit for an event!) I was back to the healthy salads and veg and fish etc, no more ‘healthy milk fat : )’. Easy peasy. When you can’t zip your dress or trousers You’ve Got Mail! You are Overweight. Stop eating so much and move more. Get on with your healthy life. STOP FOCUSING ON FOOD! Get off your internet and go outside! It will save your life and happiness! (Honestly, am lying on couch w/phone, after 6 hours of gardening. Put feet up after a first meal of day (fridge pretty empty so heading out on bike to fetch some fresh lamb from neighborhood store . . . will eat w/steamed kale, rosemary, garlic, leeks, canned lentils I’ve gussied up, etc etc - wish I could indulge w/bread but: zonulin - ugh! Bummer that leaky gut is the result, and an autoimmune PsA makes this a real no-no. ) So: How do I GAIN weight? Any good ideas very much welcome!

[@DrAJ_LatinAmerica]

@@eugeniebreida1583 at 63 and "if" you are in good health based on combination of blood work, functional health, MRI and treadmill test then the best way to start gaining weight is to resistance training, limited cardio and add whey protein shakes mixed with whole milk and yogurt to your diet of eggs, meat, seafood and cheese. I have one patient who is 76 yrs old male trying to gain weight and is drinking one gallon of milk a day with an eating plan of 5 meals a day like a typical bodybuilder would eat. He also adds white rice, carrots and a orange in the morning to promote hunger. N of 1 but working well. No alcohol, no smoking, 8 to 10 hours of good sleep, great social interaction and sex life, stays active during the day helping others for added life satisfaction....

[@jodyjackson5475]

Please don’t wave your hands around so much…it’s very distracting as is your overly quick way of speaking. Hard to listen…relax a bit would be my suggestion

[@mynexusca]

Asalamalaikum that's why follow God in Islam we are asked by God to fast in the month of Ramadhan. God bless everyone please followers of God Read the Holy Quran in entirety at least 3 times and learn about God.

[@sharingthebounty2488]

Seriously...This was a lot of beating around the bush and not really saying anything. There's no way I would feel comfortable having this man as my physician. He's clearly got his own opinion and agenda, (regarding what HE thinks a person's diet should be), and slips it in as he rambles on. It's important to choose people for your information who are transparent, and not simply grabbing a topic and using it without a definitive REAL and proven result either one way or the other. Kind of sad that there are doctors here, (in this venue) who do things like this when they are desperate for video topics and content. Won't be coming back here again.

[@yay-cat]

yeah but like I understand this man’s views backwards and agree with them so when he looks at a random study it’s his interpretation that I want more than just to know what the study says

[@user-um7tw6kx4r6]

If you don't want to fast then just say so instead of criticizing the doctor...

[@eugeniebreida1583]

Hey man, seems you don’t like one of my trusted sources out here on the webs. I’m guessing you’re lost - or YOU might have the agenda. I am very glad Bret has a (highly educated, experienced and open-minded) point of view. Why would I listen if his analysis was mooshy?

[@ineedhoez]

He is talking about a study. What are expecting?