Different Size Winter Tires and Rims

[@bobbydigital8243]

Thank you for this information for years. I’ve been driving the same size winter tires to my summer tires and every winter I’ve always got stuck in the snow.

[@marimavu]

Thanks big fella u just saved me lots of hustle! I have 17 for my Malibu, found 16’ steelies on Marketplace, will fit it with studded winter tires and hopefully survive this Saskatoon winters

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Nice! We can’t use studded here 😢

[@gdstruthers]

Rob thanks for taking the time to post the video!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You're welcome! Thanks for your comment! Cheers! Rob

[@rybread278]

This is awesome information! Just saved $300 by going with 225/65/R17 instead if 225/60/R18's for my Wife's 2016 CRV

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@rybread278 Fantastic! Thanks for your comment! 🍻

[@serious_in_seattle6917]

Thanks. This is good information. I just bought a gently used 2021 Corolla XSE with low profile tires. A lot of people simply pay to have their regular tires swapped with winter tires on the same rims each fall and spring. here in the Seattle area. I prefer to buy winter tires already mounted on rims so I can switch them easily myself. Since TPMS sensors are required that increases the cost substantially, unfortunately. Anyway, I need to find steel rims in 15 or 16 inch sizes that fit properly on my Corolla and get winter tires next fall that provide a near identical total diameter. I suspected that what you suggest was possible but it has been difficult finding the information. It seems that tire stores want people to come back twice each year to have tires mounted. That’s a pain in the butt.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yeah it's next to impossible to get help from tire places. Try to find a young guy starting out of his garage or off a farm. I use tire size calculators for reference all the time. Here is a link to one. www.calculator.net/tire-size-calculator.html

[@serious_in_seattle6917]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin thanks for the calculator link.

[@HONDAKING1000]

Im The same boat with my corolla XSE, Curious what tires and rims you ended up getting for the winter ? Any Info would be much appreciated !:)

[@Dupedupedean]

Thanks for this video. I have been looking for someone addressing downsizing for the winter tire. I have 20 inch all season and the dealership advised that I go for the 18 inch for the winter tire. I wasn't sure what to make of it, until I stumbled across your video. Thanks a lot!

[@PreludeSon]

Excellent! This is what I'm hoping to see. Thanks for the post my friend.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You're welcome! Cheers! Rob

[@richardpc7097]

Hello, it seems I’m a little late to the discussion but your spot on. I have a Honda Accord Sport 2014 and with a good deal I’m looking at over $800 for a set of snow tires not including rims (235/45R18). I bought snow tires with a smaller rim and they work great (205/65R16). I tried to order tires from Costco and they won’t put them on since they aren’t what’s on there now. I’ll probably just have my mechanic order some and have him swap out old snow tires with new since it’s time for a change. Helpful video. Thank you!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Thanks for your comment Richard! Cheers! Rob

[@Boki9]

Thank you. Very helpful

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@Boki9 You’re welcome! Thanks for your comment! 🍻

[@billseiler4952]

Many people will laugh at snow tires but they are great in the winter. Thanks for sharing

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yes they make a huge difference! Thanks for your comment! Cheers! Rob

[@rulinghabs]

I have a 2019 Honda Accord Touring 2.0 with 19 inch rims. I live in Vancouver and thought I could live on all seasons. No chance. It snowed the other day and my car is useless. I am glad I saw this. I have no problem downsizing to save money.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Exactly! How do you like the Accord? It's a nice looking car and that 2L Turbo must Rock!

[@rulinghabs]

Rob's Garage Woodworking car has a ton of bells and whistles. Very happy with it. I would say it is more quick than fast. Does have a noticeable lag unless it is in sports mode. Great car though. Had an Acura before.

[@ziawalizada3184]

Hello sir I have 3 the same shape tyre and one different shape but same size does it effect my car performs

[@acoast84]

Great video!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@acoast84 Thanks!

[@jakegerrior7066]

My mum has the same thing with the 2015 civic touring and she had 17 inch rims for summer and for winter she had 15 inch

[@Toddington444]

My 2011 civic takes 195 65 15, yesterday I bought snow tires that are 205 65 15. Hoping they aren't too big

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

LOL! That's pretty close though! Was that a mistake or a good deal?

[@Toddington444]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin yeah it was a mistake on my part, I bought second hand (almost new) so a little late to return. If it's too close I'll possibly sell. Thanks for the insight

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@Toddington444 Looked it up on tiresize.com/calculator/ and the circumference is 78.4in Vs 80in and width is 7.7in vs 8.1in so your speedometer might be off a bit but they will fit no problem.

[@Toddington444]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin Good to hear Appreciate you looking up the math!

[@cheezblood10]

Thanks for the info Downsize from 20" to 17? That too much of a difference

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@cheezblood10 no you can totally do that. Get the same overall height the same with a smaller rim. Look up a tire calculator to find the equivalent size.

[@cheezblood10]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin Thanks again,u take care

[@Goatizgone]

As per books in need 235/40/19,please recommend me different size for my car

[@johngaudet6316]

Yes your so right about the price savings down sizing winter tires and rims, another plus is that a higher profile tire in winter is better going over frost heaves or really bumpy roads less chance of rim and tire damage. I down size from low profiles to studded winters. Its amazing the difference !

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You are totally right! Unfortunately studded tires are illegal in Ontario. Sad but true. Thanks for your comment! Cheers! Rob

[@Italianborn]

I found 4 used rims with tire i want to buy, 225/60/r 18 …I’m not sure if they would fit ?!

[@youtubehand]

Bob, thanks for the video! I leased a suv with 275 35 R22 performance summer tires. The lease will end by December next year. I think it's still a good idea to install winter tires in Vancouver for safety reason and to purchase mint condition second hand winter tires makes more financial sense. I am torn between two options in the secondhand market: #1. 275 40 R22 winter tires set for $1200. #2. 20inch Rims +275 35 R20 winter tires set for $1800. (All listing prices). These options are still rather expensive. I also notice the first option will make the diameter of the vehicle 3.7% larger. My thoughts are: The first option will save me rim money in the short run, but may be difficult to resale when the lease ends. The second option is convinient and may be easier to resale, but cost more up front. I wonder what would you suggest? Observations and advices are welcome! Thank you Bob.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Sorry for the late reply. Both are Crazy Expensive! I'm a big fan of tires on rims. That way you can change them yourself in the driveway in 1/2 hour vs. waiting for an appointment in the height of "tire season" and maybe weeks later than you wanted to wait. Or even worse, driving an expensive SUV on performance summer tires and ending up in the ditch. Hoping you find a great deal! Good Luck! Rob

[@markanthonyidos3463]

Hi! Please I need your advice, I have a suzuki swift with a stock wheels of 195/50(F) 60 (R) R16, I'm planning to downsize for a winter tire. What size of tire & rim is suitable? Thank you.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@markanthonyidos3463 www.wheel-size.com/size/suzuki/swift/

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@markanthonyidos3463 You have to find the correct bolt pattern rim for your car (see other reply for more info) but it seems another stock option for your car is 175/65R15.

[@markanthonyidos3463]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin Hi Rob, thanks for your reply. These are the details of my swift: Center bore/hub: 60.1mm Bolt pattern: 5x114.3 (5x4.5) Thread size: M12 x 1.25 Rim: 6Jx16 ET50 Offset: 48-52 Should I go to 14's or 15's?

[@markanthonyidos3463]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin Thanks. I planning to buy a yokohama iceguard IG53 175/65 R15 T(84). Just don't know yet what size of rim should i choose.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@markanthonyidos3463 I would see your trusted local tire shop and see what they can get, check cost also. 14’s are cheaper than 15’s generally but if you get the 15’s you can grab some Suzuki hubcaps and keep the factory look.

[@sajidreshmi1]

Hello, I have 225/45 17 summer tyres. What is the suitable winter tyre option? 195/60 16 or 205/55 16? Or should i still go for 17 incher

[@sajidreshmi1]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin thank you. There is plenty of options but an expert opinion from you would be a bonus.!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@sajidreshmi1 Use tirecalculator.com tire comparison. The 205’s are closer but if you want thinner tires the 195’s aren’t as wide. Both look like a good match.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@sajidreshmi1 not an expert by any means- just an informed consumer

[@sajidreshmi1]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin alright thanks

[@gpaz2439]

Hello sir. i have 2017 highlander 2455519 tires with 19 inch rims. im looking for rims and tires for the winter but dont know what size. i need help

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Inside the driver door is the sticker with the recommended tire size. Also printed on the side of the tire. Here is a good website for further info www.calculator.net/tire-size-calculator.html

[@trevorstolz8580]

There is another reason steel rims are far superior to "performance rims". I live in northern Canada where we can get six inches of snow overnight. What happens with alloy rims is that you get a spoonful of snow in the rim and this unbalances the tire. The part of the rim that covers the interior space between the sides of the tire is parallel to the road. Centrifugal force just makes the snow, ice and/or mud more and more compact. If it gets above freezing, the ice melts and the mud remains. The whole car shakes and the only solution is to go to a car wash or try and scrape the mud out of the rim. The steel rims are somewhat more bowl shaped. Centrifugal force throws the snow out of the rim constantly. The wheel doesn't get unbalanced. I put the best winter tires on my vehicle that money can buy so even with a front wheel drive, I can drive through almost anything. However, when the wheel gets unbalanced because the depth of the snow is deep than the height of the side of the tire, it gets in the rim. I ONLY use steel rims for winter tires. They are far better "performance" rims.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Good points!

[@diegoeleazar9154]

Automotive industries always try to grab your money. Thanks for advice!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Totally! Thanks for your comment! Cheers! Rob

[@manuelsalgado8510]

I have a utility trailer with 215/70R14 I’m having a hard time finding them, what Zia’s can I go to that would be easy to find in the future?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

I would go to a place that sold trailer tires and wheels and just swap the set. Or you could find a similar set of tires on rims in Kijiji or marketplace.

[@jotsidhu6100]

Urgent Really 🚨 Hi, i got honda civic 2012 Lx modeL sedan. I want to buy winter tires when i check online it shows tire size p195/65R15 but my old tires size is p205/65R16 and same thing mentioned on door side. So should i get p195 or should i stick with the same old one size ?? Please let me know

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@jotsidhu6100 The 15” size will be cheaper but you have to have 15” rims. Sometimes the DX had smaller rims than the LX or EXL and Touring. The overall tire height should be the same. You can compare on tire calculator on the internet

[@jotsidhu6100]

@ first of all thank you so much for your fast response. So yes i have Lx model and yes 15 is cheaper but i do not know the rim size how can i check that and i checked on the calculator it says rwsult is good it is below three percent so is it okay to go with 195 cheaper ones ?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@ the tire is on the rim now right? The tire has the size written on the side example - 205 65 R16 the R16 means 16” R15 means 15”

[@allthegrassisgreen]

2:14 is my favorite part of the video 👍👍

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@allthegrassisgreen lol! Exactly 😉

[@sunilgodson298]

2155017 stock and for winter - 20565r15. 17 is for performance and 15 rim you will get more tire grip which is good for winter life and grip.. Good point.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Thanks for your comment Sunil! Cheers! Rob

[@EduardoGac]

Excelent! I have a AWD Toyota Highlander Can I do that ? My current summer Rims are 19” Could I get a 17” rims with winter tires?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yes. Just make sure the rims clear the brake assemblies. Look at tire sizes for the old highlanders or lower models. Chances are they will have 17" rim/tire combo with the same diameter as your new highlander's tires. Good Luck! Rob

[@randomrazr]

is it worth getting alloys over steel rims

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Up to you. Depends on how you want your car to look. I have winter steelies and my parents had to have stock alloys. If I had the money I'd get nice summer alloys and run stock alloys in the winter. Cheers! Rob

[@danielj9932]

Thank you❤

[@patrickbass3118]

Thanks for the info. Would it be ok to run a winter tire that ends up being around a half inch bigger/smaller overall?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yes but it will make a slight difference in your actual speed vs what the speedometer says. Also depending on how your car checks tire pressure it can cause the tire pressure monitor system light to be on all the time.

[@muhammadkhan9773]

Hey need your advice I have civic 2019 with 215-55-16 inch rim Can I put 215-50-17 winter tire and 17”rims Please reply

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You can’t put a 17” tire on a 16” rim

[@muhammadkhan9773]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin original size is 215/55/16 So I want to change with 215/50/17 Can I do that

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@muhammadkhan9773 oh sorry I guess I read that wrong. Should be fine. Here is a tire calculator site to give you more details. tiresize.com/calculator/

[@muhammadkhan9773]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin honestly just watched your video and though you are the right guy who can answer my question 16 to 17 no issue right Some one says your car alignment get issue coz car set on 16” and you putting 17’’ But you said no issue I can upgrade 215/55/16 to 215/50/17 Thank you 😊

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

@@muhammadkhan9773 yeah it should be fine. The idea is to keep the aspect ratio the same or close. Use the tire calculator to compare.

[@adamdj3271]

Hello Rob, Thank you for sharing. Just wanted to ask. I recently bought a 2nd hand 205/65/16's winter tires for my honda civic 2012. would it be suitable for this car because the one I'm currently using is 205/55/16's Thank you in advance!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Those are a little taller but they "should" be fine. Here is a link for further info. tiresize.com/comparison/

[@foff159]

Is it ok to use those Honda rims you took off and add winter tires to them, Would they get damaged?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yes, but it will cost more because they are a larger rim size and they are low profile tire. The new tire machines are much better and are far less likely to damage rims.

[@123danks]

I’m thinking going down 2” on my rav 4.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You can use this website to find the right overall dimensions of the tire to keep your speedometer accurate tire-calc.com

[@123danks]

Rob's Garage Woodworking thanks

[@jinyu6514]

yeah it’s true, but if your driving on the highway 100+mph without snow, it’s too bouncy becaused of the height.. i prefer 205/55/16 or 215/55/16

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Yeah they aren't quite performance handling but they perform much better in the snow.

[@davidviner4932]

I am having winter tyres fitted to my BMW convertible on Saturday, I’ve acquired a matching set of M Sport alloys for the new tyres so the car will look the same but drive ok under 7 degrees centigrade, I don’t want steel wheels with narrower tyres when I can keep it looking the way it should and the grip will still be excellent

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Wider tires tend to float in the snow and slush. But if you don't have too much of that in the winter where you are then I'd buy the sexy alloys too! Cheers! Rob

[@greeneking77]

Hi I have a civic 2010 that came w/ 16 " rims and 205 55 16 tires. I want to go down to 15" rims and 185 narrow tires for better fuel economy. I know my speedo will be off but would there be any other problems? Also what aspect ratio would I need on the 185s or does it matter? thanks for the video

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

I really don't think you will get better fuel economy but if you look at the tire and rim size for the older civics they all fit the newer civics and the overall height is very similar. Here is a link that can help you out. tiresize.com/calculator/

[@photoMorg]

Hi Rob thanks for the video. I have a 2007 Honda Civic Coupe Rims 16x6.5 Tires P205/55R16 any suggestion on steel rims and wheel size I can get away with to save money. Thanks Paul

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You can use the ones off the previous generation civics. 195/65R15 or even 185/75R14 *note* some tire shops will only sell you rims and tires size based on the cert. label on frame inside drivers door. Here is a tire calc. link tiresize.com/calculator/

[@RoomiesGarage]

in this case..... seize does matter...cheers

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

LOL! Couldn't resist could you...

[@tysondaniels6001]

Hi Rob, I was looking into winter tires for my wife’s suv with p255/65R 18 and found some nice winter’s on rims with the size 235/55 R17’s Was wondering if you think that’ll work for her vehicle? And thanks for sharing ur knowledge and definitely subscribed 👍🏾

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

So you just have to make sure the rims have the same bolt pattern and size and that the rims clear the brake caliper assembly. The size can be off a bit and it's best if you can get tires with the overall diameter the same so your speedometer is accurate. Here is a tire calculator and I have checked your tire sizes. They claim the difference in height is "dangerous". It's probably OK but it's a pretty big height difference. Your call. Good Luck on your search! tire-calc.com/#

[@falconeye577]

Question I want to change the WHEELS and Tires on my 2017 F-150 it came with 17 in factory wheels I want to put 20 or even 22 wheels on the rear, but keep the 17 in wheels on the front My Question is will the truck have any issues with this setup

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

That's old school! If you change wheel size make sure they won't rub or bottom out on the box when fully loaded. This may change your speedometer reading. This was VERY popular in the 60's, 70's and early 80's. Have Fun! Cheers! Rob

[@falconeye577]

Old School, Yup. I got my first car, a 66 Mustang, in the mid 70s, guess what I did to it I take it your telling me it will not have a major effect on the truck other than looks

[@McHughFilmCompany]

Hey rob! Would 195/65R15 be too small for my 2016 civic? They came off a 2015 civic and was wondering if its possible to do that so I could save a few bucks.. Thanks!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Those are the same height and the rims will fit perfectly! Don't forget to get some Honda hubcaps to go with them... Cheers! Rob

[@McHughFilmCompany]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin Perfect! I just wanted to make sure it's safe to use since the only difference between mine and yours is the 10mm in width. Thanks again.

[@rogerhudson9732]

And don't drive as fast in winter. Don't forget the TPMS system needs to be set on the new steel rims.

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You are absolutely right! Many first generation TPMS cars needed wheel sensors but now most operate with the wheel speed sensors in the ABS system to monitor tire pressure. (they compare rotation speeds between tires) Thanks for your comment! Cheers! Rob

[@hermaj33]

How do you reset your TPMS system? Just put winter tires in Honda Accord 2014. Thanks and thanks for the explanation and the video

[@m.m1048]

It dont come with 215/55/16?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Stock tires are 215 50 R17 and the snow tire package from the dealer is 205 65 R15 on steel rims Cheers! Rob

[@brendanH2O]

Hey, thinking of getting downsized winter tires for my 2015 Genesis Sedan... they usually run all seasons 245/45/18. Would I be able to go to a smaller rim/tire package and it not effect the larger breaks the Genesis has 345mm? Thanks!

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

You just have to clear the brakes with the inside of the rim. You should be able to go to a 15 or 16 inch rim. Just check the rim before you put tires on. Then get the same overall height of tire - a good tire shop can do this for you, or you can check online. Good Luck! Rob

[@brendanH2O]

Thanks :)

[@huzaifaq123]

Hi Rob I have a Honda Civic Sport 2020 that are 235/40R18. Can I downsize for the winters to 215/50R17? I’ll be saving $300 Canadian . Will there be any issues?

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

The winter tire package that the dealer gave me was 15" steel rims and a tire size of 205/65R15. This gave me the same height as the stock performance summer tire but slightly narrower. It has higher sidewalls too. The smaller the rim the cheaper the tire generally. You will need new wheels if you get 215/50R17. I suggest always getting winter tires permanently mounted on their own rims so you can change your tires/wheels whenever you want free of charge. It's also much better for the tires not to be put on and taken off the rims every 6 months and you can save the look of your alloy rims for the summer. Your Civic will accept 205/65/R15 on 15" rims (circumference 80 width 8.1) as your stock tires have a circumference of 79.8 and width of 9.3. It's a 10th gen civic just like mine. Plus you save money on the tire/rim package and save money not having the tires removed and mounted every 6 months. The downfall is a slight performance decrease in cornering but huge performance increase in snow. Here is a tire calculator link tiresize.com/calculator/ Happy Shopping! Rob

[@huzaifaq123]

Hi rob thanks for the response. I ended up buying 215/50R17 for my winter tires . I brought the Michelin X-Ice Xi3 For 542.92 from Canadian tire.It was on sale. I also brought steel rims for 247.92. My local tire shop can install for 80 plus tax.

[@panthpreet-u3i]

Also alloy wheels paint get faded with winter salt 🥶

[@detmer87]

@1:58 1000 dollars for the tires?! that can't be in dollars, euro's or pounds :P

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Canadian Channel = Canadian prices. 215 50 R17 for mid grade winter tire=$175 each, mounting cost=$15 each X 4 wheels X taxes = $858. For 205 65 R15 mid grade tire=$140, mounting=$15, steel winter wheel=$50 X4 X taxes =$926 When you change tires 2X per year the cost is $135.60 So if you use stock 215 50 R17 your first year price is $933.60 (initial tire price and install plus spring changeover back to summers) and every year after is 135.60 for tire changeover(2X per year) Yep, it's expensive here... Cheers! Rob

[@micheleacegamer7730]

1000 $ for tiers?! Wtf are you driving a formula 1? That's way too much here in Europe you can get a really Good winter set tires for 1/4 of that

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

Costs vary per country but I'll break it down for you. Tires $137.50 X 4 = $550 Steel rims $60 X 4 = $240 Installation $15 X 4 = 60 Sub total $ 850 X 13% tax = $960.50 TOTAL This is the Canadian cost. It's a better idea to permanently mount tires on rims for longer tire life, cost savings and convenience.

[@micheleacegamer7730]

@@robsgaragewoodworkin well those numbers make more sense. 2000$ for rims and tires seemed too much

[@robsgaragewoodworkin]

If you bought another set of the 17" factory rims they would be around $1000. If you bought the factory rim size snow tires (215 50 R17) the same brand tire is $205.00 each + $15 installation X 4 = $880 + tax = $994.00