You’re one of three channels that I follow on KZbin that I’ve seen keep this bike long term. Thanks for hanging on to it and giving a good, in-depth, long-term review!
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! Stay tuned for some serious off-roading.
@durtyred866 ай бұрын
Let me guess, Pavel is one of the other 2?
@ComfyDadShoes6 ай бұрын
@@durtyred86 ARiemann1, longhaulpaul
@ComfyDadShoes6 ай бұрын
@@durtyred86 ARiemann1, and Longhaulpaul. What’s the full username for Pavel. I’ll definitely check that one out too! 🍻🤟
@allenhuling5986 ай бұрын
@@ComfyDadShoes Motorcycle Adventures - Great channel!!
@allenhuling5986 ай бұрын
10,000 Alaska miles on my '21 model and still love it!! I have done a few tweaks and farkles to make it fit me even better but really haven't changed it much. The best additions have been a taller wind screen (I'm 6' 1"), and three items from Camel ADV - a tail tidy, one-finger clutch arm, and 'the fix' rear brake lever! Got my bike with the same 'Rally' package' that you did, including the crash bars, I am in the process of changing those out to a set of just the 'lower' bars from Altrider. The T7 is an awesome bike and I'm glad you like yours so well - looking forward to your coming videos!
@torbjornwiklund92216 ай бұрын
very good description of the advantages and disadvantages of the t7. I bought a t7 in 2023 and it is top heavy, but I still like it because of its simplicity. Drove 9900 km last year. Torbjörn in Sweden
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing!
@jothain6 ай бұрын
Top heavy? Xt600e has fuel cap higher than handlebars. I've looked that T7 is somewhat heavier than the ol XT, but cmon guys. It's YOU that makes biggest difference in bike feeling top heavy 😏
@IAmYourReflection6 ай бұрын
@@jothain lol nah it’s the higher weight distribution and center of gravity.
@The3336 ай бұрын
Good update. As a T7 owner myself, I would point out a couple of things: 1) The headlight is pricey - agreed - but not untouchable - about $450 (US) - the issue more is if you can get one - currently listed as "unavailable" on Partzilla (not even "out of stock") 2) Multiple companies are now making ABS type plastics for the T7 (I got mine from Camel) - ABS plastics are the same as used on motocross and enduro bikes (unbreakable)- so they sort of make the necessity for full on crash guards null now (more over some of the full crash guards actually end up causing more damage to the engine cases if they bend back too far on hard spills.) 3) Multiple companies are also now making high pipe adapters for the T7 - so the wonky exhaust mount issue will only bite you if you choose to stay with the OEM mounts. 4) SW Motech makes a center stand with an adjustable spring grab - install loose, then tighten after the springs are attached - one man job. 5) The Oxford grip controller can be better integrated by customizing it's supplied hardware to bolt on/under the left mirror lug (there are several vids on this customization) - looks and works more smoothly than how Oxford suggests installing it. 6) Seat Concepts lower seat for the T7 shaves off about 3/4 of an inch in height plus increases ride comfort dramtically. The Rally Raid 20 mm lowering link kit is actually very easy to install.
@blade15356 ай бұрын
The seat concepts low seat is the worst motorbike seat I’ve ever ridden. I was also heavily disappointed with the build quality of it. Not comfortable either.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks for all the info! I'll have to look into those plastics.
@Icatchbigfish-b6l6 ай бұрын
Not sure where you are getting a price of $400 US for the headlight but here in Canada it's $2,174.
@IAmYourReflection6 ай бұрын
From what I’ve seen those plastics don’t look that great but maybe they’ve updated them since then? And tubeless wheels would be so much better unless you do extreme off-road trails.. That’s the biggest con of this bike IMO
@Icatchbigfish-b6l5 ай бұрын
@@anon91153 I just looked again on the Yamaha oem parts website here in Canada and it says $2,174.75 for the headlight assembly. . It must be a mistake. part number BW3 H4300 00 00
@SmokinZen6 ай бұрын
I liked my T7 but it did feel a little tall and it was difficult to manage after my accident last year despite being 6ft. So I lowered it by 20mm and lowered the front forks to 10mm. What a difference that made I actual love the bike more now. I know I know I lose capability off-road but I have more confidence off-road. I have aggressive tires for off-road which is a trade off for on road but I only ride to work on road and dirt the rest of the time. In the desert it is a good compromise. Lowering it was has not been an issue yet so far it is not bad at all.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yeah, more and more manufacturers are offering factory lowering for that reason. Some models now come in two heights.
@ZinoAmare5 ай бұрын
I did my first off road a month ago on the T7 and I was scared, I only have my license since January, and I was nervous and we went "extreme" off road wet Mud and loose dirt right away, but I had a lot of fun and was able to do well :D
@stepheneldridge69986 ай бұрын
Nice review...I've had my T7 for 4 years now, and love it! Does everything i want and looks terrific..its a great bike. The only bike that tempts me is another T7..the extreme .
@tommyinoz21004 ай бұрын
its not a big hassle to turn a standard into an extreme
@Sweetw4ter6 ай бұрын
I had hard luggage panniers (sw motech trax adv) and these panniers completely ruined the handling of the bike. i recently stripped all those racks and panniers off the bike and installed soft luggage bags from rhinowalk and the difference is unreal... Almost cant feel the luggage. My old luggage setup was 19 kg empty, just the panniers and the racks! Now total weight of luggage loaded is 15kg.
@MotoGuzziMoto6 ай бұрын
Top heaviness can be much improved by lowering on the suspension, replacing the rally tower with an after market headlight (Acerbis or Unit Garage) and a lithium battery, and surprisingly with the Acerbis 23 litre fuel tank. You can also avoid the heavy bar work by reinforcing the plastics or replacing with dirt bike plastics. If you get the opportunity to try a T7 with these changes then jump at it. You wont believe the difference taking 8-13 kgs off the top of the bike will make.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips! I can imagine they do.
@Picklerides3 ай бұрын
I saw a bike just like this over the weekend. Was stopped on the side of the highway. I was on my CRF300L so I waved to the fellow biker! Looked just like yours. Had the Paniers and was the same color. I am looking into getting a T7 next year so I watch every video I can on them :P Cheers from NB!
@davidangus75596 ай бұрын
Surely if you break the exhaust mount you weld it or even make a new mount with sacrificial bolts. Replacing the whole frame because of a comparatively minor damage seems like overkill
@thodoris37906 ай бұрын
i test ride one,the rally version.after 120km/h the wind noise drived me crazy.terrible
@advswede6 ай бұрын
I love my T7, it´s just keep going without any problem :-)
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yes, mine has been perfect despite me dropping it repeatedly.
@DanielHelc6 ай бұрын
Good and realistic review. I had mine for over a year and 11k on it and agree. Its probably one of the best ADV bikes when looked at it in general terms. As far as some weaknesses you mentioned, its to be seen. I took mine up to cat 4 rough terrain and if I am in the mood it goes fine. I have seen guys push them in Moab on cat 4 and 5 terrain and it gets trough, so its more to the rider. The only thing I wish is Yamaha to release more variants to the NA market and maybe bolt the exhaust to the frame with single bracket that holds pilion foot pegs. And revise the new screen again and switch controls. ABS options should be controlled from the switch on the handle bar. Lets see T7 V.3.0 .lol
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yep, if the Extreme version was available when I was buying mine I would have gone for that one. But it's still not available in NA.
@BlackUnitAdventureSport6 ай бұрын
Very Honest Reviews... that's the reason why i love this bike.. Reliable..Easy maintenance and After sales service parts easy to get n cheap too...i traded my 2021 Tenere 700 base model after rode it for 100k km on mark and yet still on stock Sprocket and chain including factory battery..No breakdown so far...oh yeah..i owned this bike for 1 year and 11 months..Now traded to World Raid 700 2023...From Tenere to Tenere😂... Changes of Specs...tats all..
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
👍 Yeah, I wish we had all the variants here in Canada. I'd love to try out the Extreme version with the KYB suspension.
@ColdWarVeteran-r2j2 ай бұрын
Fair Review... I take my T7 into some relatively narly desert roads. Its mainly about the rider.
@paul.vanhout576 ай бұрын
The T7 definitely a legitimate and trustworthy adventure bike. I had the chance to rent one in South Africa and rode over 4K Km in a wide range of conditions. Thoroughly enjoyed the power delivery and overall capabilities. Complaints would be the spongy rear brake and a minor nit on lack of steam at higher rpm. Very thorough and informative review👍
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I'll do more stuff on the T7 in the next month before going back to reviewing bikes.
@mikef33004 ай бұрын
I have a 2017 Ktm 690 enduro r and it’s been a very reliable bike for me. It’s great fun both on and off-road but not so much at highway speeds. I’ve been thinking about replacing it with a T7 for awhile now. The only reason I haven’t is the extra 100lbs the T7 carries over my 690. I wish I could ride one as I’m sure that would help me decide on which bike I’d prefer but there’s no test rides at the dealership near me and I don’t know anyone that owns a T7. Closest thing I’ve rode to its weight and power is an old GS800 that my buddy has. Much more stable on road but off-road you really feel its size and weight difference .
@EverydayBronco-dh8hs6 ай бұрын
Looking forward to your suspension settings video!
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@nightterror51316 ай бұрын
I only ride on the road and I traded my tracer 7, for a T7 world raid and the world raid is really comfortable. I also got my world raid fully kitted out I had Yamaha do it as the fitting was free.i also have the full luggage with locks again all fitted by Yamaha and I have no problems at all.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yes, and the World Raid gives you the range you need for serious touring.
@rexparker67165 ай бұрын
The Honda TransAlp is the Best all round bike , plenty of Mods for the Trans Alp if wanna take off road ? Also the Trans Alp has an aftermarket Cruise Control
@ColdWarVeteran-r2j2 ай бұрын
Touratech sells bags without locks as well. They are expensive and leak in the rain. I would get Bumot if I had to do it over again.
@etruscanadv32966 ай бұрын
If you have the chance, try to ride the Suzuki 800 de. I own a KTM 790 adv s and I have the chance to try a Vstrom 800 de and the Tuareg. The Suzuki is amazing. A lot of torque down low, and it doesn't feel like a 500lb bike. It is not as nible as a 790 but it is very close. The cons are quite a bit of engine heat and annoying vibrations on the footpegs above 5000rpm. The Tuareg has amazing suspensions and a lovely engine. It is also very easy to reach the ground for short people (easier than the 790 adv s). The tuareg is a nearly perfect bike. However, the engine of the 790 is too fun. You don't need 95hp until you have it.
@MrG-254Ай бұрын
best review i have seen so far.... the only thing is to always mention metrics... like these pounds and inches don' t mean a thing to 90% of the rest of the world... a pound in europe is 500 grams, and a US pound is more like 400 grams
@SandraOrtmann19766 ай бұрын
Well...hubby is very happy with his (same generation and same colourway as yours). Particularly after I convinced him to try the slightly lower seat.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
That's great! Yes, the bike is tall and the Euro Extreme version is even taller because of the KYB suspension.
@dirkdiggler51646 ай бұрын
LOL I 'd be dam'd if I'd replace the whole frame if that exhaust hanger breaks. Get it welded. PS. you could make your own break-away bracket for the exhaust mounting point and attach it to the frame. And bypass where Yamaha mounts the muffler. Like a pipe hanger type thing. If the exhaust gets clobbered, the hanger you made will just bend or break, not anything welded to the frame.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Good point!
@Sweetw4ter6 ай бұрын
In my country (germany) it is illegal to weld frames of road vehicles. Not saying i like that law, but it exists.
@dirkdiggler51646 ай бұрын
@@Sweetw4ter That's a little bit too much nanny state for my tastes. The frames are welded in the factory, after all. So there's no hazard with welding a frame as long as the welding is done right.
@anthonymalfino14 ай бұрын
I have tusk d sports on my KLR. Huge knob. Love em. Love the bike man
@christophepoteaux39323 ай бұрын
If it wasn't so damned top heavy, and if I wasn't 5'6 (1.67), I would rush to my local dealer where the T7 can currently be purchased at around $8,500.
@leeinwis3 ай бұрын
I'm 5'10" and still don't wanna deal with the top heaviness , my CRF is alot less weight but still top heavy enough..
@davidhall3704 ай бұрын
Have you or anyone on here had cam chain tensioner issues? There is plenty in the internet about the poor quality of this part and how owners have had it changed under warranty only for the tapping/ rattling noise to return a hundred miles later.
@orientationandmobilitywith59026 ай бұрын
Awesome video! I agree, the T7 is a great bike.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
It really is!
@lcdubs78475 ай бұрын
I'm seriously tempted to switch from a V-Strom to a Tenere, I just hate the tube type wheels. I don't really trust the tubeless conversion kits, and having tube type tires on an adv bike is just stupid.
@ikutiap59236 ай бұрын
Nice review that actually shows the actual bike in details. Everybody commenting here should add his/her own weight and height. 6.2 (185cm) - 175lbs (circa 75kg?)
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks! The height of the bike will no problem for you at all.
@aa_lunksАй бұрын
The scenery/trail starting at 24:10, is that hydro line route in the GTA? Very interested in finding out where this is.
@kostasrestas6 ай бұрын
11 thousands only at 4 years ?? wow !! i have one 2023 tech kamo European model for a year and im very huppy with it ! Chers from sunny Greece man !!
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yep, I'm riding other people's bikes all summer and between that, a full time job, riding my dirt bike and family responsibilities I've been neglecting the thing.
@Axr24have6 ай бұрын
Good vid! Re your centre stand springs, there is a tool available used to place vehicle drum brake springs on studs, similar to the arrangement on your bike. One person can do it in seconds. If i could, i would send a picture of this tool that i have.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip,. I'll look that up.
@gingernaut2550Ай бұрын
I wanted an Africa twin the second i saw one. I'm an adhd research guy, and more my list of bikes i want is about 16😂 I really really like the looks of the t7, but I'm 270 lbs right now, down from 310, on my way to around 255ish. I dint like that a full suspension job would likely be a requirement on a T7. I'm leaning towards a vstrom 800de, or maybe depending how this winter goes jumping up in price to a tiger 900 rally exp, or bmw f900. I think they offer a bit more performance than an Africa twin, and look on par, similar price range. Me and the wife's combined weight is between 430 and 450, so 2 up options are limited, obviously I'm not talking about getting at7 for 2 up😅 But the tiger 1200 actually capable of carrying 496 lbs! Which is 100 more than an A twin. I'm thinking a Honda Valerie for 2 up trips, mid sized adv for most riding as we live way up Northern Alberta and the roads are terrible, with endless dirt opportunities
@larrywade90416 ай бұрын
How's Brook, & how much longer do we have to wait? Best wishes to you both!! Cheers!! Illinois, USA
@hondaryder37796 ай бұрын
Still looks good to me, especially compared to the competition. Ps. Ik zweer bij Mitas E07 plus' tyres, great 50/50 tyres for light offroading and hard wearing and comfortable on road.
@davidthomson40452 ай бұрын
Re: the exhaust, or changing the flow of air in/exhaust out, does the T7 adapt to them or are we upsetting stoichiometry and risking detonation damage?
@ADobbin15 ай бұрын
One of the things I never see in bike reviews like this is fuel economy. How far does it get per litre? How does a road bike perform on really rough roads? how does an offroad perform on roads. All reviews ever talk about is accessories and electronic gadgetry on the bike. They never talk about the performance of the bike itself.
@leandrooliveira83076 ай бұрын
I have the same side cases, i have put them when bought the bike and they come with locks even i use the bikes key to open and close them all
@takeshikusao46746 ай бұрын
It's a shame they do not have anything for a bit more casual rider. Like T5, with a tad less weight, height, power... Not so much ATV, but still all-round capable, and easier to uplift, and handle around.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yes, I've been expecting a T3 with the R3 engine bute Yamaha still hasn't come through.
@superbikemike6 ай бұрын
great info... thank you👍
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@100868ful6 ай бұрын
Dear lord if you brake the hanger to the exhaust you can simply have it welded for less than 100 dollars. You don’t replace the whole frame.
@ValentinBeeeeeeАй бұрын
Has this happened to anyone you know about? Couldn’t find one case of a broken hanger on the web!
@halinabiegalski95096 ай бұрын
Good, honest review, thank you 👍
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@alneno98406 ай бұрын
Good video and nice motorcycle..the only issue you forgot to mention..PRICE!! in canada this motorcycle is 14k out the door and if you buy the loaded version it's 16k!!..it's good just way overpriced
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I bought mine when they first came in so I paid just over 13 in 2021, but inflations has been crazy since then.
@leulgeorgis32162 ай бұрын
The headlights cost a thousand and if you drop the bike in the exhaust pipe side you may have to change the frame? Is it just me .?
@bobz17366 ай бұрын
I'd have thought the locks would come with the bike when new so can use the ignition key... Great review 👍
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍 Yeah, I thought that when I ordered the bike.
@HaJoSchatz6 ай бұрын
The locks have to be ordered separately but the shop can key them to work with the ignition key. Installed properly they do lock the box and the disconnect. The boxes and their mounting system are Givi btw.
@alisonpimentel36614 ай бұрын
you forget to mention XSR 700 with the same CP2 engine
@anthonymalfino16 ай бұрын
Awesome mate!
@joshdoddadbod6 ай бұрын
If I could afford a t7 I'd be riding it offroad alot. I think the t7 is a great one bike option.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Yes, it's the only bike you need as long as you're not doing hard enduro.
@gingernaut2550Ай бұрын
Replacement headlights are a couple grand!? Fuck that!
@atnv-jd4vbАй бұрын
In which province u do offroading??
@2wheels.are.better.than46 ай бұрын
We are the same height and weight so I’m curious to see what your suspension settings are. 👍🏼
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
I'll have that info for you in a couple of weeks.
@2wheels.are.better.than46 ай бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV if you didn’t have hard panniers, do you think it’s necessary to reroute the exhaust to go under the exhaust bracket like so many have done to prevent damage to the swing arm / frame, or do you think that concern is overblown?
@johnDukemaster6 ай бұрын
I would say that the KTM 790 Adventure is another competitor. And if I would go offroad, I would use an enduro bike. Lightweight and nimble. Cheers!
@hogueraleksander58686 ай бұрын
No KTM can come close to a Yamaha reliability. And off road all alone... you need your iron horse to be dependable.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
Totally agree! I almost bought one when I was waiting for my T7 for 6 months.
@johnDukemaster6 ай бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV All these "luxury" problems. Like "which bike should I chose?" Cheers!
@XxGyromancerXx6 ай бұрын
If I didn't settle for my current bike (2015 V-Strom 650), I'd have gotten a T7. But the price of the Strom was more attractive. So was the handling for my tall self. I don't know what it is about ADV bikes and their awful looks. I don't like that demented looking bird beak most of them have. I almost did a title for title trade for a 2014 Kawasaki Concours 14. After some research, I decided to stick with the Strom. I pay $15 a month on insurance, upkeep is simple and affordable, it uses 87 octane gas, and its power is fine during the winter here in PA. The Concours, however, is a different beast. Insurance quotes were a range of $120 to $185 per month, upkeep would have been pricey, and the bike requires no less than 91 octane. The power of the 14 would be way too much on cold pavement, during the frigid winter. I ride all year-round except for when it's snowing and the frozen snow melt is present. I'll stick with the cheaper option.
@fingerscrossed23176 ай бұрын
Iemand ook roest zichtbare roest aan de voorzijde van de benzine tank ?
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
I haven't on mine but will check again.
@fingerscrossed23176 ай бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV oké, good for you. Mine is as new but with it, 7300 km, blue one, 2019. Bought with 3500 km, a year ago , second hands.
@patrickkennedy77565 ай бұрын
I chose a T7 over Aprillia for the exact same reasons you did. Love the T7
@hogueraleksander58686 ай бұрын
I have no place anywhere near where i live to ride a bike like a T7. But this guy really has me wanting one. And the Tuareg is nice but i cant trust the italian engineers.. and that T7 with the dual tanks is bad ass. 💪🏼
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
The T7 is great on the road but if you're going off road that much there are better pavement bikes out there.
@hogueraleksander58686 ай бұрын
@DifferentSpokesTV that's why I have a bobber for bar hopping and a sport touring to eat miles fast. But I live in Florida. You gotta ride 8 hours of pavement just to get to another state and ride more hours of pavement to get to dirt.
@CesarRamirez-cn5fw6 ай бұрын
Isn't the point of a adventure bike is too travel to a place that can ride it ???
@hogueraleksander58686 ай бұрын
@CesarRamirez-cn5fw you can drive from Miami to Alaska without ever touching anything but asphalt. So in the US not so much.
@iamjdag6 ай бұрын
🤣 glad to see someone else put hard panniers on On my Tuareg I put my sw motech trax panniers on because I already had them from my v Strom. Even says Suzuki on the boxes 🤣🤣
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
I don't bring the hard bags for more difficult off-roading. I think I'll get some soft bags in the future if I'm going touring in the rough stuff.
@iamjdag6 ай бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV I don't prefer them, it's just all I had and I'm a cheap bastard. Suzuki panniers work for me if I already have them. I'm sure I'm an abomination to the Tuareg community
@lcdubs78475 ай бұрын
I thought this was a Canadian channel?
@thodoris37906 ай бұрын
your bike its not old man.old its my 2002 xt600 with 67500km
@davidangus75596 ай бұрын
Oops, just noticed someone else made the same point
@mikeisland73826 ай бұрын
16:40 "It does feel like a gigantic dirt bike". My favourite bit about the T7. Still holding out hope to see a proper dual sport 550cc-600cc single cylinder version of the Tenere with 890 fuel tanks and a big seat.
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
That would be something like the old 660 one.
@mikeisland73826 ай бұрын
@@DifferentSpokesTV Hoping for something between the 690 and the 450L but slightly detuned and based off Yamaha's WR450 platform except setup for dual sport. Dreaming big...
@m3ld4r10n6 ай бұрын
Ridden millions of bikes but didnt know was in 4th gear pulling away.What? xD
@louiskirby42666 ай бұрын
T7 tank looks shithouse the rest of the bike is killer
@jamesonpace7266 ай бұрын
You're 6' with 33" inseam? Ha. I'm a 5'7", 28" man who's just not gonna bother, although I did fine on the XLs, XRs & MTs of my youth....
@DifferentSpokesTV6 ай бұрын
My wife is 5'7" but her inseam is 30 inches. There's a shot of her on the lowered bike with the shaved seat.
@samhill34966 ай бұрын
good vid east kentucky usa t7 country
@john02706 ай бұрын
sadly yes, its an overweight dirtbike for me. Got my money on the 800de
@SoulfulKira3 ай бұрын
Sounds like a skill issue
@paulscott11006 ай бұрын
You know if you remove the sticker, it will now be road legal 😉