The mention of me and the fact that I more or less "get" you was extremely affirming to me. Thank you.
@thekinotion65058 жыл бұрын
wow lucky you. I feel that I know as much as you, I usually just dont comment.
@mrupload43818 жыл бұрын
I hate when people think you are being defensive when trying to explain yourself, they think you can't take criticism.
@eff-fume8 жыл бұрын
I actually get you all the time. I also totally got your boring taste of anime video, because i just got the point you made. All people who misinterpret everything probably never wrote a summary of a long scientific text because they only get everything around the core and not the core information. Also many people don't get the concept of empathy or just don't care. I am a person that is highly interested in psychology that is why I want to know everything a person does or think because I can object that on other people. So I know how a person will react or handle a situation before they even know it. It is very thrilling. Like hacking someones mind, sounds villainous. I get it!
@fabulousknight19608 жыл бұрын
People don't mean objective when they say objective. They mean well argued, well analysed, coming to a conclusion after considering multiple perspectives. Or even just an unprejudiced one. This can, itself, just be confused with "an argument which was convincing". I think the reason people use "objective" like this is because people associate the scientific (with empirical objectivism) with "good", or logical, and so on. But that's just my own, subjective, biased guess.
@aqwthetroop8 жыл бұрын
+Fabulous Knight Maybe I don't understand your point (If not then please correct me) but it's possible to find media that is objectively good. One purpose for analysis videos is that they highlight what a show does correctly. The problem with this, however, is that like you state, "I think the reason people use "objective" like this is because people associate the scientific (with empirical objectivism) with "good", or logical, and so on." The problem with this arises as it leads to 'tastes' that people fight over. 'Tastes' are dangerous as it defeats the purpose of the artistic medium (In my opinion) since the point of art is to send out a message crafted by the author (In most instances). In many instances, people will tend to latch onto art (as digi mentioned in his 'The Most Boring Taste In Anime') because others enjoy it. As you stated earlier, people will often misunderstand an objective argument with a convincing one, this is the exact problem that leads to a hierarchy of 'good' art. So while not a direct argument, I just wanted to expand on the idea of being able to judge art "objectively".
@fabulousknight19608 жыл бұрын
aqwthetroop I do not think it is possible to objectively determine the quality of art, except in the other meaning of the word (its properties). For example: you can objectively determine that a story has complex themes, that it uses a certain style of prose or cinematography. You can objectively determine whether a work has the qualities of that which would normally be considered of good quality. But you can't objectively determine whether that itself is good quality, as this is an evaluation, which must be personal. You can highlight what it does (and this can be done objectively), then you can highlight what the effect of this is (which *can* be done objectively) and then you can say why this is good or bad, which cannot be objective, not least because it cannot involve empirical fact. The concept of taste is often incorrect, in my opinion. You like what you like. If this tends to follow a certain theme, so be it; perhaps you could describe it as a certain taste. But this is suspect. In terms of "good" or "bad" taste; these terms can be used if there is an already agreed upon definition of good and bad between all parties. Then, what you really mean is "conforms with X, which we have called good, or conforms with Y, which we have called bad". Or simply just "does X which I like, and does Y which I do not" (although this is often not what people mean -- how many times have you heard people admit they have bad taste in something? A lot, for me at least). I wish we could post anonymously.
@murrox71178 жыл бұрын
+Fabulous Knight I would argue that you couldn't even say that you can determine anything objectively (were we to take the definition of it from subject vs object). If you say a story has complex themes, how did you reach that conclusion? The idea of story has no matter, complex has no matter, themes has no matter, so if everything talked about does not deal in any way with material object or energy then how could it be objective? Would love for someone to explain that split between objectivity vs subjectivity as I feel that would simplify most discussions about art.
@aqwthetroop8 жыл бұрын
+Titus Meyer Well the idea is that art is entirely subjective. The objectivity from art is a bit more abstract but I'll try my best to simplify it. If you look at a drawing such as 'Napoleon Crossing the Alps' versus something you or I might doodle on a paper. You would most likely say that the Napoleon portrait is better. How do you come to this conclusion? The quality of the image, the different application of artistic theories, etc. The same goes for any other medium of art. You can state that one show is objectively better because it has better choreography, better directing, the show presented its themes clearly (it didn't confuse the audience). You can argue that this is all up to the viewer, but as my example with the drawings, it would be rather difficult to argue that a simple doodle is 'better' than 'Napoleon Crossing the Alps'. Granted, this isn't objective the same way a scientific discovery is, but that's because art is entirely subjective. The reason this kind of objectivity exists is to improve the quality of art in general. The problem is, however, when people use this type of objectivity to determine what is good and what isn't. You can have a show that most people would consider 'objectively' bad and still enjoy, that's what makes art so enticing.
@fabulousknight19608 жыл бұрын
Titus Meyer To take Macbeth as an example -- you can determine that there are themes of good and evil, responsibility, perception, reason and unreason, and so on, and which are explored and considered from many points of view and in many different ways. This might contrast with (the fictional) children's book Timmy's Day Out, which might deal with the theme of acceptance, from one point of view. The themes and how they are dealt with is independent of your own personal judgement. But, whether this *is* complex or simple is, yes, subjective, and I worded that poorly. I meant it in the same way that a book's word count can be determined objectively, while whether this amounts to short or long cannot. The way I've always understood objective vs. subjective was -- objective does not require your personal opinion to be correct, while subjective does. So, to imagine a law case -- I can say "the murder weapon was found in this dude's luggage" objectively, as it can be measured, and is fact-based. I can say "so I think he is almost certainly the murderer" subjectively, as this cannot be measured, and is not a factual statement. I can also *deal* with these things objectively, saying only the facts; that the dude was found with the murder weapon, and perhaps that some other people think he did it while others do not, without making a personal judgement. This gets messy, considering the validity of empiricism and so on, but you can draw a descriptive line somewhere.
@vazerd8 жыл бұрын
I feel like you said the definition of gonzo journalism in a 24min loop ^^ I appreciate this vlog and the loli-shota one as they fill many blanks on you as a person.
@LimeyLassen8 жыл бұрын
+vazerd mostly the loli-shota one that was a contribution to humanity
@vazerd8 жыл бұрын
+Limey Lassen hey, don't try to make people interpret my comment as a stupid joke.
@LimeyLassen8 жыл бұрын
+vazerd The video itself was kind of a joke tho
@vazerd8 жыл бұрын
+Limey Lassen I walked out remmembering "gender identity issues" and "bullying", finally understanding why digibro likes hourou musuko that much. We can have fun making jokes about fapping to loli-digi but this was not what I was going for here. Clarifying is such a pain.
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
This is a really authentic video that tells me alot about you. I LOVE IT!
@GamingEthos8 жыл бұрын
feel this alot. recently I've been hungering to learn other people's mindsets to why they like the things they do in gaming. alot of time that in its own is misunderstood as many times where i ask someone to explain why they like a certain game they see it as im making them justify what they like instead of just me wanting to understand. on top of it being comments where tone is invisible and it only make things worst. it's funny, it's a misconception within itself. great video.
@Thunder-Sky8 жыл бұрын
I took a class on video game aesthetics in my last semester of university, and it was really enlightening on that front. I've always hated sports games and thought they were pointless, but when we were doing our presentations on our final papers, one person had done a hockey game, and he went into great detail explaining the fanbase and their desires with sports games. I came out of that with a much grander appreciation of other genres.
@lebeaumuni62478 жыл бұрын
Way to be real and vulnerable man. As a person who silently watches your videos, and ignores your comments section; in my perspective, I don't watch your videos as though it's a math lecture with super ultra "logical" rules. Most of my friends are not into anime the way I am and I'm not into it the way you are, and I love getting a perspective from you. For me, I'm a kid who is new to anime and I love hearing the perspective of someone who has been into anime for a long time. Keep up the good work.
@hawksnacks-24198 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons you're my favorite KZbinr is because I feel like I get to know you through your videos. Lots of KZbinrs play a characters and I have no problems with that, but it really is nice just to get to know such an interesting person.
@hawksnacks-24198 жыл бұрын
I know it's only a what you'll allow us to see, but we couldn't have met any other way and it's still you.
@Alienrun8 жыл бұрын
I get where your comming from. Really I do. I used to operate by this idealogy. But I eventually got weared out by it and...I think thats why you might feel lonely sometimes. I just try to relate to people who are similar to me and don't bother trying to get people to understand me unless they actively want to and vice versa. Basically if I don't take it so seriously, then others won't have to as well. It's all about finding balance and setting priorities that are consistent and aren't based on what others think about you. For me that's religion, but for you it might be something else! :)
@mybloodismadeofteaitreally40808 жыл бұрын
I actually understand most of your content. Even if some of the time I don't fully get it I will at least know where you are coming from. Great thought provoking content :)
@Me1265468 жыл бұрын
I hit the like button on this video because I greatly appreciated what you were doing with this video and helping us understand who you are and why you do this. I find people making themselves "naked" in the sense of explaining their bare nature very interesting and gratifying. Thank you for sharing this with us
@zigalkodonverven38628 жыл бұрын
You make some good points in After Dark. I can relate to the urge to explain myself. I grew up unable to get into the interests others had. I didn't care for sports, I couldn't trade cards, and I couldn't understand the excitement fellow classmates had when they sneaked a Nintendo portable at school. I was very by-the-rules and met most people because of mere proximity. No one could quite explain themselves to me while they were attached to the games (rather, they ignore the question when they were in the zone, which left me out of the zone if immediate defeats weren't enough). I got the appeal of figuring out myself through such moments over time, and I didn't always have the means to get into what they were into. Nowadays, I have an extensive rambling journal entries I either type into a document or write on the margins of any paper, hoping I don't lose what I write. Things about how I think, how my outlook functions, new words and ideas, and concepts I'm becoming interested in. I haven't quite reached the point where I can look into a lens without stuttering (It may help for me to be in the mood for overacting, but even when I regard the camera and audience as separate entities, it bothers me more to look at the lens. Maybe also because I worry about it falling or because I have so little room in the frame even at its widest setting.), but I'd like todo it for free-lance. I just feel like I have more time to be open about something so specific when I'm in here, whereas in the real world, I could ponder a simple yes-or-no into a thought process and the closest people would assume I'm arguing an excuse. There is no way to explain that without raising more questions that lead to "arguments". It may also seem strange for me, as a slow writer in general, to fantasize about having to write an autobiography so detailed down to every blink and sound I had, already far too long to explain without images and sound, but that was exactly my thought process: to observe as much as I could, regardless if others think I'm left behind. My mind was most active when I was left behind, and passive in the action. I have some urge to explain that, but it's so common for people to be into the action or expecting people to get into the action (or in KZbin's case, a viewer expecting the video commentator to agree with them in the long run). Constructive criticism has become a bit of an art to me, one not everyone can do verbally. I couldn't do it without needing very specific examples. ~~~~Now, I'm new to anime and I'm no comics/manga reader, but I'd also want to give a shoutout to what you said about the concept of Boogie-pop: be uniquely personal to yourself, but find a way to appeal to an audience before your story becomes incomprehensible to the general public; to immerse the reader before you place him. ~~~~The most boring tastes in anime: The equivalent of making a personal favorites list featuring nothing but Oscar bait movies/ copying the AFI top 50 list. Studio Ghibli appreciation has had such a problem BECAUSE it's so praised (When someone says they love a Ghibli film and assume that equals anime in general). Of course we know those films are good or should be good. But it also shows that if your list of favorite anime is filled solely with films as popular as the Ghibli films, you're showing that you have not check that many nooks and crannies to find other anime. Now, objectively, there's no reason not to call them your favorites; it just means your favorites appeal more objectively than personally. ~~~~(Yes, I'm aware I'm commenting for 3 of your videos here. I haven't watched much of your content, but I appreciate what I have seen so far.)
@Dingocrikey8 жыл бұрын
I love watching all of the recent videos on this channel - especially due to how casual the tone is compared to the vids on your main channel. Can't wait for more.
@pyrored52128 жыл бұрын
I can strongly relate with the need to be better understood or better understand other people, but from my experience that leads to you thinking about the reasons behind the way people act and think a lot more than most would even bother, ironically leading to people not understanding why you think so much about minor things. As long as there's at least a few people who understand what your trying to say you should consider that a victory because I doubt they put as much thought in to the subject as you did.
@12fcali118 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. What gives me motivation as an artist, is looking inside the mind of the artists i admire most. Watching this videos make me feel like someone understands what im doing, and its really fun to hear you complain about shit i complain about. Keep up the good work on both channels man, 👌
@Ricotlan8 жыл бұрын
Dude, Digibrah, you being genuine and letting us know your thoughts like this, that is appreciated. I love the integrity. Thanks for that. It makes me want to continue making content I feel like making, with the intention of being understood. I have that obsession too. I have my own interests and I want others to get why I am so interested. Thanks, bro....Digibro...digi...br-you. If that wasn't the point...let me know!!!
@SuperDuckPro8 жыл бұрын
I think for every new Digibro or Digibro After Dark video I watch "I get it" less and less. But it doesnt really matter because thats part of the experience I want for myself. I wont try to interpret Digi's intentions on the comments ill just keep watching his videos and experiencing them from my perspective. I know Digi wants to be understood, but maybe I cant help it, so ill just shut up and I wont pretend that I know what im talking about, I dont, but I like that.
@Micoolman8 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I was super non-argumentative with my opinions, and exactly like Digi mentioned, I always hid my true interests just so other people wouldn't think I'm weird/nerdy. But as of recently, I've been getting better at defending my opinions and explaining myself to other people. Part of that is me getting older and more confident in myself, but I also feel that watching Digi's videos have helped me become better explaining myself more than any writing class in school has.
@coyote34348 жыл бұрын
Came for the objectivity, stayed for the quality cinematography.
@Snieder58 жыл бұрын
I'm going to patreon you soon mainly because of your vlogs. It's so affirming to listen to someone that I can relate to in so many ways. I'm subbed to 914 youtubers, and you're my favorite.
@TheLovelyMudkip8 жыл бұрын
I feel like I understand you and your tastes in anime on a more personal level now and it effects how I currently watch anime. I'm really glad I found you and I'm glad that your personality is the type to argue, it makes for insanely interesting content
@swervenights8 жыл бұрын
dont worry digi, im a huge fan and i admire how you can communicate your thoughts to others. It inspires me to try to write more (even though im not that great lol). I make music and for me this was how i would share how i feel and even then its hard. But now trying to put it to words is only helping me not only communicate my thoughts but also better understand myself, so digi, im grateful you do what you do because if you can explain yourself then maybe i can too :]
@MissFictionFreak8 жыл бұрын
I think when people call your work 'objective', the spirit of the comment is usually, "you seem rational and argued your point of view well", and to some people that is objectivity. I think that's most likely why people say it like it is a compliment. I think.
@PyryOikarinen8 жыл бұрын
I think I watch KZbin differently than a lot of people. All channels have way more subs than an average video of theirs get views. I watch nearly everything the channels I'm subscribed to put out, because they've proven they can make content that interests me. I don't want to be out of the loop, I don't want to misunderstand and I want to see how they progress. Entertainment on KZbin isn't just about singular videos for me, I rarely watch something and think it's amazing. Subconsciously picking up on changes and trends in someone's videos, seeing how different KZbinrs interact and knowing the whole story from watching all their videos and possibly following them on Twitter is part of the fun. I enjoy the metanarrative of KZbin and KZbinrs, I guess you could say. I wish I had subscribed to you earlier than I did. Our tastes in anime might be very different (and that is why I avoided you for a while) but you make a good case for yourself, your videos are well put together and the content you make is infinitely more interesting than the endless reviews that fill the anime KZbin landscape. (Any recs for anime content that isn't reviews, anyone?)
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
Wow you and me are suprisingly similar in that regard only difference being I like anime reviews XD
@oliverchristie51758 жыл бұрын
+Pirita Oikarinen i recommend Subsonic Sparkle, most of his videos are review + analysis and are consistently insightful and detailed
@Alienrun8 жыл бұрын
+Pirita Oikarinen Can I reccomend Video game review channels that are good? I know plenty of those! :)
@PyryOikarinen8 жыл бұрын
Alienrun I don't play much video games and the ones that I do aren't usually the kind people review. Thanks for the offer but I'm not really interested.
@Alienrun8 жыл бұрын
Pirita Oikarinen DigiValentine has a few reviews on some anime characters...its not much but its something.
@ethan370668 жыл бұрын
Don't worry digi after we achieve human instrumentality everyone will understand you. Also totally make that live stream
@SaberStash8 жыл бұрын
Ever since I started watching your videos, my anime horizons expanded, I guess. I absolutely love your analytical style and I can't get enough of it. I instantly gave up to any other anime youtubers and never looked back, since they couldn't compete (there are like 2-3 others which I can tolerate). Plus we have similar tastes, so that helps. Oh, and I would've never gotten into K-On! (which is one of my all time favorites now) and like some cgdct shows now, so thanks for that. I'm glad your channel took off since it keeps you somewhat safe from copyright. I'm loving all these vlogs. Keep 'em coming. Also, my comment about making a vlog with your thoughts on GTO, Hajime no Ippo, Haruhi and Samurai X Trust and Betrayal has quiate a few upvotes, so make it happen. (on your video about death note and CG)
@SomethingWithAnime7 жыл бұрын
I came here this week. Through a weird coincidence I finished watching the ass war and found your series on it and have been hooked on the channel ever since. I don't think we see eye to eye on everything but I agree that it is hard for people to understand you especially when you just want to be your true self. Lastly I just wanted to say I appreciate your world view and perspective on things, it is fresh compared to what I am used to, especially from the perspective of another analytical anime fan.
@elsa_g8 жыл бұрын
I think lots of people kind of equate acknowledging that others have valid opinions with being objective. I appreciate how you don't say your opinions are the be-all-end-all, you just justify them with your thoughts and let their strength support you.
@youthproblem6718 жыл бұрын
Some very fair and objective points in this vlog -- brilliant as always my friend.
@letslovelain17508 жыл бұрын
you make people think and try to understand you and that is really important, there are some of us who are here because we want to understand and we will try until we do
@distortioncharizardalive8 жыл бұрын
As a long time fanboy of yours myself, I find the "you're very objective" compliment to be a little hilarious, though not entirely. I'd certainly consider you respectable, and your opinions are backed with a lot of logic and heart, which I think is what those people mean. This seems like the perfect video to comment on what _I_ get from your content. While there are a lot of surface level things that make your videos appealing to me, such as the high-quality writing and wide vocabulary, I think that on a deeper level, I relate to a lot of your ideas and philosophies to the point where even if I personally disagree with an opinion of yours, I still respect and understand it totally, which is all you can ever really hope for in writing a review. When it comes to relating to a specific opinion of yours, I think your love for Bakuman is something that I can agree with and _feel_ so strongly. The way you talk about it and the reasons you love it remind me so much of myself and the reasons I love Bakuman, and why it's one of my favorite manga. I hope I haven't misunderstood what you're aiming for, if I have, feel free to correct me. Oh, and if the insanely long emotional comments every other video are getting annoying, I'll stop that too; I know you hate when comments repeat things that people have said before. Though, to be honest, I'd like to think that I have a good grasp of who you are, or at least what you are aiming for as a writer, being someone who has watched and read pretty much everything you've ever made because I'm fucking _insane_
@lildarienttv8 жыл бұрын
That livestream idea sounds exactly like something you'd do and do well at. Don't write it off! People would LOVE to argue with you live.
@CoolioMan27138 жыл бұрын
One of the things you said that really resonated with me the most was that your videos aren't for everyone. What you is post is clearly meant to appeal to certain people, targeted if you will. This isn't to say that you are catering to people for views, just that you are opening for discussion slanted in your direction. Your videos are not objective (something you never stop pointing out, but I completely understand that you need to) and certainly contain bias towards whatever point it is that you are making. Part of the reason your videos get so many negative comments in comparison to positive comments is simply because when people like something you post, a lot of the time they (and I do this too) will simply go, "that was a good video," *like*, and move on. People who either disagree with your point, or what they perceive your point to be, feel obligated to point out that they are right, and you're wrong. Don't let this make you think the majority of people don't agree with you. You have been one of my favorite channels for a while, and my opinion of you has only gone up as I have gone deeper into your videos from the past and watched your latest videos on Digibro After Dark. This primarily vlog channel HAS given me more insight into your beliefs as a person, and more than that, an insight into the reasons behind them. I do, however have a question regarding your belief that people should not view your videos in a vacuum: People will all be new to your account at some point, and what they see initially is what will motivate them to either check out your channel, or forget you; this being said, would you not agree that all your videos DO accurately portray your beliefs? If so, why would you say they shouldn't be viewed in a vacuum? I really do hope you continue to make these wonderfully in-depth videos about any and everything, and as soon as I have a steady/reliable income you are the first person on my list of Patrons I strongly want to support.
@gttguy8 жыл бұрын
i love your videos i subbed to all of your channels after the SAO video. after i saw that i started looking at why i like one anime over the other and what makes them good. i also stared ranking anime diiferently
@dankestcabin71527 жыл бұрын
great video! i have a art portfolio review tomorrow and im rewatching all your important art videos!!! ill send u a package w some prints of my projects soon !! luv u digi!!
@reee0plb4658 жыл бұрын
long time sub, got hooked by the SAO hate and didn't leave because you were so objective :^) ay jk I can't remember when I discovered your channel, but these couple of times you said "I fucking love myself !" pushed me to watch more of your videos. There's so few people I heard say that in my entire life, be it on the internet or not. I think listening to you changed to some extent the way I behave for the better or the worse, and I've come to appreciate myself more through that process. I'm not trying to sound edgy or anything because my life has never been horrible to begin with, but you did really help me a lot when it came to understand myself since I could relate to you on some levels. And I got better knowledge about anime and shit, that's also cool. I believe you've always been clear in your videos, as it is the perfect way for you to express yourself. You also did made me re-watch K-on and appreciate some other shows for their qualities. If you're reading this, thanks, Digibro. Never stop fucking loving who you are.
@awesomezaka8 жыл бұрын
Love your content and perspective. keep making moves digibro.
@lachlanstill48138 жыл бұрын
I think that part of the curse is that those people whose engagement with you is shallow enough that they don't get you will by and large never get you because they only engage on that shallow level. I thought about pitching a "get to know Digi" series where you'd briefly explain your critical process in order to give people that context, but in all likelihood the very people who most need that info are those who would skip that video, only watching the ones where you shit on stuff and never understanding why and/or by what process that shitting is occurring, and simply being upset by its existence.
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
Ha I've found you! #Missionaccomplished
@lachlanstill48138 жыл бұрын
The Hunter x Hunter 2011 Dickriding Association *Takes a Dignified Bow*
@polkjmsb8 жыл бұрын
+Lachlan Still I think if such a video existed I'd love to watch it. I've only found digibro recently, but I already love him and what he makes, and wish to know him better.
@lachlanstill48138 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Laferté-Coutu I think that most of us would love to watch it; I just think that the shame is that we would be the only ones to watch it.
@Seraliena8 жыл бұрын
You make a particularly good point about how the audience perceive you as a KZbinr expressing his opinions and the creation process as a whole. It's the same for anyone who stumbles on a well-established channel just as yours. The thing is that you appeal to a niche audience, like any KZbinr. I'm not saying that a limited amount of people like your content, but if you don't like the content, you don't like it. That's the beauty of KZbin, because there's a massive ocean of videos for people to pick and choose what they like. There is a problem however, when the audience doesn't understand what the creators go through. One of the issues you mentioned concerns time. I've just watched this, but this video is 3 months old for me. Not enough people, as it seems, take the consideration that a person's opinions and interests flow and change with time. Whatever they've watched at some time does not necessarily coincide with what the creator and their followers are interested in at the same time. I could be badgering you to make more SAO videos, but you're way past that point. And if you could choose to continue beating that dead horse (I'd still watch it), you'd risk confusing your updated followers, because they don't see that you're still seeing new people making new comments (since it's new for them). Ultimately though, it comes down to see how you view the feedback, and how you should respond to them. It's obviously very overwhelming to see people taking their time to comment and message you, especially if they have paragraphs like this post. Seeing your "Digi and Footwear Respond to SAO2 Comments!", I have an idea how jaded you are towards meaningless comments like, 'you suck!' and 'SAO is the best!' and so on. But anyone should agree that constantly getting repetitive comments like, 'You're an objective analyst!' that reveals their direct understanding of who you are in KZbin, is exhausting. You are, after all, someone who prides himself in being able to express himself in specific points, rather than vague and sweeping notions. These are the people who apparently don't get it, because they all have different concepts of where you sit as an anime analyzer because they watched different videos of varying numbers. (Then again, you make a point to say that you're not being objective in those videos, so maybe people somehow have different ideas of 'objectivity'.) I'm not a KZbin creator at any means, but people need to see this and starting thinking from your perspective, because it applies to all creators, especially those who do not make videos with numbers in the title. Again, it's been 3 months since this video was posted, so I'm not sure how mentally past this point you are right now, and how redundant this post would be. In any case, I wish I could structure this post in a way that is more conversational instead of having to repeat what you've already said, so that I could make my point. Long sentences are long. I appreciate your channel, and I hope you keep making more!
@RainSnowHail8 жыл бұрын
That live stream idea actually sounds super fun. Like, you do a stream where you try to convince everyone of the active commenters to agree fully on one topic (aka everyone agrees on all conditionals), or have them change your view on something. It would take hours but it would be fun!
@vullture28 жыл бұрын
Ha, you saying that your channel is about the career reminded me of career sports anime, then that got me thinking that you're channel is like the Hajime no Ippo of anime analysis. Sometimes you're the hero, sometimes you're the person that everyone rags on, but you keep on going because you love it.
@kitenkaiba66848 жыл бұрын
I think they are taking how you are aware of your biasses and that you are so good at detailing why you feel a way that it can "feel" objective because you don't just say "I like this" you detail why in so much detail that you sound like your speaking facts because people are so used to people who are just talking feelings to be more "I just like it" with little detail or assessment as to why. So I guess the best way to put it is you speak objectively about you feelings which is proving to be my favourite kind of analyses.
@SanjiTyloxion8 жыл бұрын
Well that was a video. Learnt a new definition. I really enjoy your videos, I don't always agree with you, and but I quite enjoy your content nonetheless. You've gotten me into anime I wouldn't have given a chance to and I've learnt quite a bit from differing things here and there as I've been looking through as many of your videos as I can while I have time. The idea of wanting to feel like people agree with you is common. It's really relatable though different people show it in different ways. The way you stick to your opinion I find respectable even if it may be aggravating at times. Trying to get your point across is good as well so long as you don't try to change how people think, which I'm sure you're not trying to do, reaching middle grounds and understandings is great but having people whose opinions differ from your own is something I think is really important. I don't know what I'm talking about anymore. I may be saying things that don't even make sense. Oh well.
@jmiquelmb8 жыл бұрын
It's rare to see a relatively large youtuber make videos where he really want to express his feelings and views in such a personal way. I really respect you for that.
@fendas1234 жыл бұрын
10:43 So I’m special. This is flattering. I have spent way too much time trying to convince unreasonable people.
@TheStormthehedgehog8 жыл бұрын
I relate to this video so much as a lot of the time when I try to justify to other people why I like a certain show, I can't explain it the way I want to. With your videos I've learned so much more on how to analyze shows and movies and communicate why I enjoy them. I've realized that everybody has a different perspective or way of watching shows. There is no right way to watch a show, for example, I have a friend who watches anime and they analyze the crap out of it, while I have another who watches anime and just allows themselves to enjoy it. Both of these ways are fine, people should be allowed to watch a show how they want to watch it. However since I want to become an animator myself I've learned that I should analyze why certain shows are good so I can emulate that in my own work. Also it's important to know that you can't convince everybody so you have to know what demographic you're trying to appeal to. I wanted to make a show that everybody I knew could enjoy but I've realized that that's pretty much impossible. Like I said before, everybody has different tastes and opinions that trying to appeal to all of them will really only muddy up your work. Having a set demographic you're trying to impress allows your work to stay simple and focused. Create something that you want to see created, not what other people want to see created. Focus on your dream and work hard to make it real.
@edl01reviews8 жыл бұрын
I think I get where your coming from, even if I haven't been through that exact experience. When I first started getting into anime when I was 12 my parents clearly viewed it as a weird phase that I would grow out of, but the older I got the more condescending they became about it, how could a University student enjoy cartoons, which were all made for young children and had no meaning. Of course I've offered to show them something I found to be excellent to change their minds, but they just outright refuse and dismiss it out of hand. The other day they saw my Girls und Panzer DVD and I think they wanted to disown me. :P I think a very important lesson to learn is that there are people out there who will never affirm various hobbies or interests you may have due to personal biases, but you just have to accept that and try to meet other people who will affirm you.
@ThE6CoN4TRaSt8 жыл бұрын
I love the more personal touch of these after dark videos.
@acrupio2118 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that I watch this channel much more often than your regular one.
@PlanetTrendy8 жыл бұрын
Anime Everyday's video showed that he really did not understand the point of that video what-so-ever. Watching the video was almost painful. I ended up clicking the whole "Not interested in this channel" thing when another one of their videos popped up on the front page, since if someone can't grasp the point of a 15 minute video, how likely are they to understand an entire show?
@Lucols48 жыл бұрын
+Peaches McGooch (Mr Scientist) He refuted a Straw Man. He should've made a response because he was named specifically, but a more clever way to do so would be to explain why he loves each of these anime and why they are special to him. I'm saying that because I watch his videos for enough time to know that he really loves Mushishi, Aria and Ghost In The Shell. But the weirdest part is that he updated his favorites in MAL and added a bunch of manga he hasn't even finished. And they are also basically the only manga he read. By doing that he basically proved what Digi said about him.
@marlonyo8 жыл бұрын
+Peaches McGooch (Mr Scientist) i did not wached all, because that was too cringe inducing and pointless unlike cringe videos who have a point of being cringy, but what i got was they thought he was saying those shows where bad when in reality what he was saying was those shows are good and thought of as such so saying you like them is boring
@PlanetTrendy8 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. They seemed to be so anal-pained that Digi said it was a "boring top 9" that they completely missed the point that "a boring top 9" doesn't mean "top 9 boring shows". I fully agree with Digi. If a top-9 doesn't tell me anything about the curator, then it's a bad top-9.
@HxH2011DRA8 жыл бұрын
I completely agree
@fou-luthedragonemperor86488 жыл бұрын
+Peaches McGooch (Mr Scientist) Nah AE's understood the point. He was dealing with the logical fallacies.
@AnimeFlyz8 жыл бұрын
To sum it all up, don't be a fucking normie. do what you love because you love it. your future self will look back on it and appreciate it.
@XTheJaws8 жыл бұрын
+AnimeFlyz Not the point of the video, there exists no normal only being authentic and not being authentic. But even that is not the point of the video. Digi gives being authentic and often being misunderstood as a reason why he is making videos in the first place. To explain why he likes the things he likes and why he dislikes the things he dislikes. And his desire to be understood leads him to make follow up videos to his already existing content because he sees in the comments that some people he thinks are smart enough to get it, still don't get it and he therefore feels the need to explain himself even more.
@AnimeFlyz8 жыл бұрын
XTheJaws I was just referring to the very first section of the video where he is talking about nintendo.
@XTheJaws8 жыл бұрын
Except he never argues being authentic to be a good thing, even saying people disliked him for it. Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that being authentic is the best decision to make but I had the need to correct you for stating something Digi did not say.
@xXBlackFireXx118 жыл бұрын
I get that Digi, the desperation to be understood. It is also what drives the things I do
@Zcomett8 жыл бұрын
I don't know if that is fucking obvious or anything, but it just *hit* me that what you're trying to do here is very interesting. you're pumping out a lot of 'personal' content, exposing your views on a number of various matters, but in an embracing way, so that others can fully understand who you are, and what are your values and objectives in life. so that they can construct a model of who is this Digibro. and I mean, I don't think this is groundbreaking or 'new', but the fact that this "life work" of yours extends to your blog, your main channel and this 'after dark', makes it very intriguing for me. I don't suppose it's fair to say this, as you *are* trying to be understood, but I see you as a 'puzzle', with scattered pieces that could be found to complete a bigger view. I'm familiar with the concept of gonzo journalism, but not enough to know if this is part of the process - I've read a bit of Jon Ronson, and this profound desire to be understood is not as prevalent in his works, although it can be a difference in media. even if this were the basis of this 'style', it would continue to impress me, as I can relate to you much more than I probably could relate to other adherents of the movement - even though I'm not from your country, and English is not my native language. I don't know the purpose of this comment. I just wanted to say that I very much appreciate what you're trying to accomplish, and how you're doing it.
@LimeyLassen8 жыл бұрын
I'm at the point where I can disagree with like 1/3 of the things you say and still eagerly consume everything you make. But what amuses me is when I post a comment disagreeing with some point or other and I get a bunch of replies eagerly agreeing with some wildly exaggerated version of my statement, like I was totally ripping you a new one. The comment notifications I get are so terrible, Digi. I'm surrounded by fools, Digi.
@mirtemporal24258 жыл бұрын
I like the objectivity of your stance in this video. Keep it up!
@boostedbonobo89138 жыл бұрын
Longing for acceptance is something that all humans experience to a degree. We want the things that we like, indulge in, and hold dear to our hearts to be understood in the same way by other people. I think I've come to this revelation a while ago, but no two people in the world see something in the exact same light. There will never be this true connection of "wow we see things in the exact same way" because everybody is different. In a way, convincing others to look at something from your perspective is futile because they are not you. They will never be able to understand the exact way you feel about a certain thing because they've have not been through life in your shoes. This isn't to say that you should never share your feelings and opinions about a certain topic, but I feel that actively looking for acceptance through doing so is something that will often times just end in negative emotions that are derived from that other person's "inability to understand what you see". I've tired many times to convince my friends to watch the Monogatari series, telling them that from my perspective, the series had a cast of interesting characters who embodied real emotions and an interesting premise and general visual aesthetic to boot. You don't know how shitty it felt when they told me that it was just another harem show with a boring MC and annoying flashing visuals. After this though, I just came to the conclusion that everyone is different. You can't just use the argument that "oh you're just not digging deep enough or understanding it correctly." (trust me I've tried) in order to convince people that they should share your feelings about something. Their feelings belong to themselves, and your feelings belong to yourself. Keep on sharing your opinions and feelings, but don't always expect anything in return "Whatever you value... What you consider right is up to you. But don't force those ideals onto other people." - Yozuru Kagenui (Nisemonogatari)
@modco2.18 жыл бұрын
I think I'm one of the missunderstandig viewers you mentioned but I like listening to your voice and ideas about disagreements and it improves my english skills so its a great deal. Maybe I will even get more into anime because of your videos. ; )
@simonyeh16198 жыл бұрын
I get it.
@Thunder-Sky8 жыл бұрын
I am literally watching almost all of your videos because I relate to you so well. I honestly wish that you were in west Canada so we could hang out.
@cizd8 жыл бұрын
I don't think you are actually more objective than other KZbinrs, but I think you are really good at making it really clear if you are talking about your opinions or the fact and that makes it seem more objective than other KZbinrs(and people) that state their opinion as a fact. I would not describe it as Gonzo journalism. I would describe it as good journalism.
@HmaHam12288 жыл бұрын
Although there are some unfed assholes here, it's really cool to see people speaking to each other in these comments. On a Digibro video no less! Really enjoyed the vid and appreciate what you're doing, please keep it up!
@mothernature5218 жыл бұрын
I won't try to understand you completely. But I do respect you a lot. I really like your channels because they are analytical. Whether it is anime, people or yourself you are an interesting human.
@daltonriser11258 жыл бұрын
on the topic of liking videos often times i'll like a video before it starts because of how much i like that paticular youtuber
@TheMaplestrip8 жыл бұрын
I should comment more, apparently. I think your earlier "fighting the ocean" comments made me feel like you probably generally stay out of the comments section, but I guess I should have known better ^_^; What you say at 5:33 really describes me: "Because I want to understand other people, and that can even help me to understand myself better - when I can compare those things; compare what other people are into against what I am into." This is basically why KZbin is such a favorite platform for me, and why I love watching your videos, regardless of whether I feel the same way about content. It's frustrating to watch someone criticizing something you love (like when, probably Mother's Basement (I forgot), compared _Baccano!_'s opening to _Durarara!!_'s opening and criticized the latter), but that's good. That gets you to understand other people and allows you to think about what makes things great for _you_. "you" being me in this example ^_^
@Laxhoop8 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I didn't even know what video games were. This was before the Wii, so not everyone had access to all the games in the world. I only found out that there was more to entertain me than TV when an older kid brought a PSP to my after school program. (Where the kids with late working parents and no school bus go.) There, I learned what games were. And two years later I learned what KZbin was. Twenty years late for one thing, two years late for the next. Honestly, I was never "cool". In fact, if you ask me, I don't really even think it's possible to be cool anymore. Everyone knows you. There can't be any cool kids, because everyone's personality is made crystal clear by social media. So I never really had to worry about any of that. When I was younger, because of my Aspergers and ADD, I never payed much attention to my social life, and now that I do, there isn't much to worry about. Maybe I'm just blind. Maybe I'm just lucky. Either way, I don't have to worry about it.
@ratska968 жыл бұрын
I can definitely relate to the feeling of being unable to fully express yourself. for me it was more that I was incapable of fully expressing my ideas rather than my opinions. everything always made sense in my head but I could never find the words to express them fully. I took a psychology class my first year of college and subtlety asked my teacher about some of the problems I had in regards to my schooling by saying that I was talking about "a friend", she said that there was probably somthing wrong with the language part of "my friends" brain. luckily I'm a lot better at conveying shit when I have alot of time to think it over, like right now. Anyway, there's my fucking life story for anyone that's interested.
@Serje12278 жыл бұрын
I find your view on your videos as a whole to be intriguing. I myself usually see individual videos as somewhat self contained texts that are part of a larger series, a larger narrative of the channel and the one running it. So I guess I've also been viewing them as another step in someone's career and never really consciously thought about it, only realizing it when writing this comment. Huh.
@KingCreepa8 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you live during the heat death of the universe arguing about anime XD Honestly tho great video and it made me think alot :)
@Адил-г1н8 жыл бұрын
It is scary just on how many points this vlog hits home with me. I just have one thing to ask. How do all these things not make you tired and want to give up what you are doing? Don't you sometimes just get tired fighting the ocean? I not a youtuber and do not do what you do on such a scale but I still do understand where you are coming from. For me this fighting the ocean thing is at the same time the most energizing, compelling yet incredibly draining and loathsome. I sometimes also hate myself for trying to be too objective. I know that this show does not appeal to me and I do not enjoy it as much as some other shows which may seem less objectivly well done. Still there is a part of me that tries to appeal to others and praise these shows acclaimed by the majority which drives me absolutely nuts. I have no new or cool things said about them exept for them being well written and executed, yet I still do and try to. I mean this entrire paragraph does not even have much if anything to do with the video, yet I just felt like writing it somewhere.
@theraven19688 жыл бұрын
+Джамиль Ахундов Again, the point here is to not be as "subjective/objective" as possible, but rather what the current situation and information you are providing to individuals. It is very difficult to come across "cleanly" without bringing miscommunication and also your context being misunderstood; being misunderstood and bring miscommunication is inevitable. I believe a reason that +Digibro keeps making videos, or this could be a partial-reasoning known as "intrinsic value", defined as: an ethical and philosophic property. It is the ethical or philosophic value that an object has "in itself" or "for its own sake", as an intrinsic property. Meaning this particular occupation as a gonzo-journalist, he is very good at being one, and also an otaku. As he has mentioned before in previous videos and so has a couple of other people I've watched, Digibro is very good at what he does and could do it for hours without difficulty. In addition, correct me if I'm wrong, but you Digibro, find it enjoyable to bring these debates to fruition, so as people can learn something new, or as you said "--make others question or see things differently--".
@theraven19688 жыл бұрын
+Джамиль Ахундов Again, the point here is to not be as "subjective/objective" as possible, but rather what the current situation and information you are providing to individuals. It is very difficult to come across "cleanly" without bringing miscommunication and also your context being misunderstood; being misunderstood and bring miscommunication is inevitable. I believe a reason that +Digibro keeps making videos, or this could be a partial-reasoning known as "intrinsic value", defined as: an ethical and philosophic property. It is the ethical or philosophic value that an object has "in itself" or "for its own sake", as an intrinsic property. Meaning this particular occupation as a gonzo-journalist, he is very good at being one, and also an otaku. As he has mentioned before in previous videos and so has a couple of other people I've watched, Digibro is very good at what he does and could do it for hours without difficulty. In addition, correct me if I'm wrong, but you Digibro, find it enjoyable to bring these debates to fruition, so as people can learn something new, or as you said "make others question or see things differently".
@Адил-г1н8 жыл бұрын
I think in a way he does.
@joshuafalck_8 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we had this talk.
@kymox99458 жыл бұрын
Hey digi, if you ever get a chance can you talk about your thoughts on black lagoon? I've read "Roberta's Blood Trail and The End of the World - God, I Love Violence" on your blog and it was interesting but there were so many interesting arcs (pirate episodes, vampire twins, roberta, etc..) that I feel could be discussed on your KZbin channel. I especially enjoyed the segment where you talked about the the development of Multiple Personality and Disassociate Identity Disorder in children who suffer sexual abuse. That plot arc with the vampire twins was so good!
@Kalazar3218 жыл бұрын
+Kymo x I recently watched that show for the first time and it's one of my favorites. I also would love it if he made a video on it sometime.
@kymox99458 жыл бұрын
***** yah just finished it, so good.
@DarkpaladinEXE8 жыл бұрын
That fucking bye bee at the end takes me back.
@mainkyuss8 жыл бұрын
I subed after finding your Pablo album review. That shit was fucking hilarious.
@basedweeab71668 жыл бұрын
I'm just a soul who's intentions are good, oh lord, please don't let me be misunderstood.
@ethan370668 жыл бұрын
I know the live stream won't make everyone understand but it would still be fun
@KennethLyVideography8 жыл бұрын
On your topic of Nintendo. My friend used to get bullied in 7th grade because he liked Nintendo while everyone else thought Nintendo games were childish and gay and not as "manly" "cool" and "adult" as Call Of Duty, Fifa, Need For Speed and Battlefield. They never ever listened whenever he tried to explain. Sometimes people just don't want to understand.
@symbioticcoherence84358 жыл бұрын
like for the part with the heat death. though "big rip" seems more likely to me. well I subscribed to you beacuse of your video on SAO. In the beginning I was really angry, but your arguments were not dumb shit (they were actually really good) and thus you impressed me.
@miniondaechir8 жыл бұрын
I really wanna give you a big hug now digi~. :D
@toastyman1118 жыл бұрын
I don't think that it's that people are unable to understand some of your points, but more that they're just not even willing to try. It's always a losing battle trying to explain yourself to people who are never going to be receptive in the first place. There are plenty of people whose interest in anime or whatever else only goes to a certain point and never beyond, seemingly due to simple lack of deeper interest in the topic. When someone has to come to grips with broader concepts (especially seeing as you often dip into stuff like wider cinematography, even psychology etc) in order for you to explain what you're trying to say, then it's pretty unlikely that they'll bother.
@AnimeFlyz8 жыл бұрын
I demand a 24 hour live stream where Digi tries to argue with moronic comments.
@toadboy74938 жыл бұрын
This was very cathartic. Is this the season finale?
@StarAgeReactionary8 жыл бұрын
@Digibro As a writer myself I understand seeking affirmation from like-minded individuals as well as trying to convey why you feel a certain way about something in an easy-to-digest fashion and I must say that most of the negative comments you receive are from people who are not taking enough of the context into account. On the other hand you cannot expect people to try to understand your views if you refuse to try to understand theirs. Just because you SAY you understand where someone is coming from doesn't mean you DO. I've seen on a few bases where you instantly dismiss other's opinions and logic clearly before you have time to even consider it. Just my current thoughts.
@ZontarDow8 жыл бұрын
You know, the single most confusing this about this video to me is nothing that is being said in it, but the fact its' being posted after 10 in the morning when it's not after dark.
@Cybershell138 жыл бұрын
Mind briefly explaining how your thoughts on Kill La Kill changed?
@SarxTheJew8 жыл бұрын
23:59 ... that you're fighting. Kind of a mixed metaphor.
@IceKiller1598 жыл бұрын
I would love too see you play through Rin's route in katawa shoujo.
@TacticalTop8 жыл бұрын
I totally get you on the Nintendo thing, I also had a Gamecube during elementary school/middle school and every kid would be all about GTA and other PS2 games. That's maybe why I can't relate to other Nintendo fans anymore because they all seem to either come from the NES/SNES era and the Wii/U era
@GabeSweetMan8 жыл бұрын
Day 4 of Digibro Vlog Drought Water is starting to run low. Morale is strained. We are uncertain how much longer we can maintain our vigilance.
@thekinotion65058 жыл бұрын
I know you were most likey joking about the live streaming, I, and most likely others, would love to see that. I wont pretend that I understand everybody, but I rarely judge people on their beliefs and and life styles.
@deadlywork8 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people even if they understand your approach probably won't understand or care for it. Basically, the idea is that "subjective" things aren't necessarily more worthwhile than any other "subjective" thing. "Objective" things exist independent of people's personal perceptions, so they are valid even if some people disagree with them or not. This is especially applicable in a lot of real world scenarios that happen in our day to day lives. I can believe that alcohol doesn't cause damage to my liver, but if I drink excessively in spite of that, I will still feel the effects. Therefore, I imagine some people's reactions are "well if it's just your opinion and personal biases, why exactly do I care? If you're not trying to be objective about this, what value is there in this?" There IS a consensus on what makes things "good" in various fields, like writing, art, music, etc, but there is no standard that is 100% absolute. There is no 100% objective viewpoint on anything, especially when it comes to artistic things which are about expression and the subjective experience of life. Just because an argument is mostly rooted in people's perceptions doesn't mean it can't be convincing or valid.
@braveheart68168 жыл бұрын
After watching so many of digi's videos I feel like I know him better than some of the people I hang out with in real life lol
@RibbyCribby8 жыл бұрын
you could change the name to watch digi get tilted IRL. love your videos
@erilaz74498 жыл бұрын
Digi is vaporwave Jesus.
@TuskyBaby8 жыл бұрын
Wowwee digi, I've always appreciated how objectively you criticize the animu. You just be tellin the truth son. Okay but actually though I can relate to this video quite a bit (except for the whole comments that don't get it thing cuz I don't get views lol). I've always found it more entertaining to listen to or create something subjective, but only to an extent. One of my favorite pieces of shitty reviews is one I read on a Dynasty Warriors game on Metacritic. The writer immediately states how much he hates the series before saying anything else. To me, this immediately makes the review meaningless because obviously people that enjoy the series don't care what someone who doesn't has to say. Whatever, nice video and all that jazz.
@reiconsidera1938 жыл бұрын
Please do more videos like invitational art. Love ur videos big brazilian fan.
@Nezumin68 жыл бұрын
I don't know you, but you are really interesting. So I find trying to understand you kind of fascinating.
@Pacal_II8 жыл бұрын
Have you read the comment by ZephSilver on your "Most Boring Taste Ever" video? He commented quite a bit on the theme of communication that's prevelent in your videos and he related it to that video. To me it seemed like a very well-thought out and insightful comment. Plus, I think when people say objective in the context of something like anime analysis they don't use it in the same way you'd use it in the context of science or math. It's more along the lines of something being consistent, well thought out and looked at from different angles.
@terrydactyl75098 жыл бұрын
You sound like Holden Caulfield from Catcher in the Rye. He goes the entire book not being listened to until the very end.
@SourBitters8 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if I was in your shoes I would have deleted that video out of sheer frustration. Since you've been doing more videos on the Boring Taste video I looked at it again and walking into that video really is just walking into the middle of a conversation. The main message I got out of that video was like, "Digi gets frustrated when he feels people are just trying to look good or have socially acceptable taste. Digi wants to see 3x3 that reflect individuality. And this ties into all kinda of opinions you've expressed about being hungry for others opinions.