AlphaTheta Omnis Duo Review - Sleek All-In-One With A Trick Up Its Sleeve!

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The AlphaTheta Omnis Duo is a battery-powered compact all-in-one DJ system in the Rekordbox ecosystem, slightly larger than its only obvious competitor, the Denon DJ Prime Go. It does the basics very well, has a neat Bluetooth trick up its sleeve and is undeniably desirable, but no access to streaming services and no key shifting option take the shine off it at launch a little - things that’ll hopefully be added down the line. As a neat “lifestyle” all-in-one unit, and as second system for mobile DJs, it will likely do well.
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0:00 Intro
0:11 Input Playback
1:50 Layout & design
5:33 Rear panel
6:46 Screen functionality
10:54 Effects
11:45 Bluetooth & other settings
14:55 Who's it for?
15:24 What we think
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@SherwinBajao
@SherwinBajao 5 ай бұрын
Love the evolution of standalone portable controllers. Can't wait for Denon's next unit.
@rorz999
@rorz999 5 ай бұрын
I just hope Demon's next one has better build quality than the Prime Go... and better filters!
@SherwinBajao
@SherwinBajao 5 ай бұрын
@@rorz999 I hope they have a portable battery one with a more standard layout.
@rp_a3480
@rp_a3480 5 ай бұрын
The Numark Mixstream Pro Go seems better and for half the price. $1500 is a hard sell for a compact unit. Nonetheless thanks Phil for the review , as always, very informative
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
We do indeed rate the Mixstream Pro Go - a great value unit.
@lucasmaia8315
@lucasmaia8315 5 ай бұрын
Lmao you can buy a mixstream, monitors and headphones for the price of the omnis.
@censoredialogue
@censoredialogue 5 ай бұрын
when i found out about this, i considered selling my Mixstream for one just because having native Recordbox support would be super convenient for playing club gigs. for $1500 tho? LMFAOOOO
@DirtyJokesFan
@DirtyJokesFan 5 ай бұрын
There’s not enough here for me personally to choose this above a Prime Go. Bit of an underwhelming start to AlphaTheta era.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Let's see how it hits!
@JAYSS422
@JAYSS422 5 ай бұрын
Loved your review on the dennon prime go, have had it for a few years and as a unit it has aged very well. I Really love the way this one looks but sticking with my prime go. Access to streaming services was one of the major selling points and buying points for many surprised this unit doesn’t have it. Great review once again A1 content as always
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Thanks! And yes, we're surprised too.
@djNineshoxxx
@djNineshoxxx 5 ай бұрын
The Prime Go is still better overall and is cheaper the bluetooth feature is a cool edition but not enough for me to sell my Go to get this and Denon will likely be able to do something similar with Engine
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Good point - would be fun to see the Bluetooth In function in Engine DJ!
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz 5 ай бұрын
Pioneer seems to know DJs like the feel of a bigger jog wheel, longer battery too compared to the denon prime go.
@james141111
@james141111 5 ай бұрын
I have a suspicion its on the way ;) @@digitaldjtips
@georgesheridan8185
@georgesheridan8185 5 ай бұрын
I'd be happy-ish if I could just use Engine DJ software on a computer and control it with the Prime Go. Not every gig is a standalone gig.
@djNineshoxxx
@djNineshoxxx 5 ай бұрын
@@Nogi-aka-DJNugzthe reality for most I would argue is you are not going to be using the device for more than 3-4 hours at a time so I don’t see that as a selling point personally re jog wheels it is preference I don’t really scratch so it isn’t a deal breaker for me but numark has the answer if bigger jogs are what the customer wants in the pro go.
@philipmurphy9711
@philipmurphy9711 5 ай бұрын
Great review Phil as usual. Price is a bit ambitious, i think even $1000 would be a push for this. It feels very consumer with a pro price. Will be interesting to see what Numark do next as it looks like a mixstream pro with a bit of added functionality.
@DirtyJokesFan
@DirtyJokesFan 5 ай бұрын
Or a boujee Prime Go. If I were in Denon DJ, I’d be quite relieved that it’s fewer features for a heftier price tag.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Let's see...
@JohannesNielsen
@JohannesNielsen 5 ай бұрын
​@@digitaldjtipsboth Dennon and Numark are laughing hard right now
@zerosdotworld
@zerosdotworld 5 ай бұрын
1000 bucks i would buy it stat. but ur right it’s spendy.
@19rayrayray90
@19rayrayray90 5 ай бұрын
AlphaTheta : this is our new product. Phil 1 second later : this is our full review
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
🤣
@ShaunyWalker
@ShaunyWalker 5 ай бұрын
Great review Phil. Thank you!👍😎🖑
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No problem 👍
@ezedjay
@ezedjay 5 ай бұрын
Nice one Phil. Great review as always.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@xelverano
@xelverano 5 ай бұрын
wonderful review! thank you
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@JYMBO
@JYMBO 5 ай бұрын
Ahh yes Alpha Feta... the daddy of all cheeses
@Wingless_Oracle
@Wingless_Oracle 5 ай бұрын
Nice to see innovations coming in from Alpha Theta. The Bluetooth input, usb-c charger and looks are welcome! As for the rest I think the 4 year old Denon Prime Go does mostly better. You'd think Alpha Theta would be able to do better than play catch up after 4 years and for +500 euro.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
All fair points, let's see how this pans out in the marketplace...
@tom_mac
@tom_mac 5 ай бұрын
I dare say the technical superiority of the Prime Go, although significant- will be outshone simply by the layout not feeling totally alien here. If you won't compromise on having technicals at hand, you probably won't settle for any gear in this implicitly compromise-making market spot in the first place. As for me, i got me a gig playing music at the food court KFC so this is the ideal system. Come down and see me Oracle, we can play Wingless B2B Boneless. @@digitaldjtips
@nermaldigital
@nermaldigital 5 ай бұрын
Definitely USBC charging for the next Prime Go iteration. I only recently bought the Prime Go (very late to the party I know) but it's just so well laid out as a portable pro controller, except that darn proprietary brick.
@iugalder
@iugalder 5 ай бұрын
As always great review!! You might not know, but there’s great deal of fans in México Phil. Thanks for keeping us up to date on the industry’s news. Now, the Omnis… dissappointing… I loved the denon vs pioneer match… Now the match is unexisting… denon doesn’t even have to show to the match, It can send its little brother Numark to kick the sh. Out of Pioneer (ir whatever’s left of it) and win on the first round. I hope Alpha Theta makes ir exciting again in the near future.
@mark_spit7839
@mark_spit7839 5 ай бұрын
If Ikea made a DJ controller……
@DaveCeeRocker
@DaveCeeRocker 5 ай бұрын
I think the Blue Tooth feature is gonna be 'interesting' at parties! :) as always great review phil.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Which one, BT in or BT out?
@DaveCeeRocker
@DaveCeeRocker 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips well. the post i put into the Student Lab explains it lol. i see many dj's getting caught out if they BT customers tunes during a gig!
@ShaunyWalker
@ShaunyWalker 5 ай бұрын
I like it!
@brett-m
@brett-m 5 ай бұрын
You've upgraded your camera 👍
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Always looking to improve, thanks for noticing!
@shitflicks
@shitflicks 5 ай бұрын
If ever I have any concerns over a unit or unanswered questions, I always get the answers from your videos. I've got the OG numark Mixstream and I'm more than happy with it, and even 3 years later they're still updating it and making it more useful and current. It's a good starting point and a great launch product for their "new" brand (yes I know it's not a new brand per-say, but to most of us it is). It's worrying though in a way, because their previous controllers have been carbon copies of studio and club standards, and people get used to using them. This is like nothing else on the market. Even the DDJ 200 and DDJ 400 are similar in layout to other pioneer gear.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the support! We think that is why there is a brand name change here, to differentiate from Pioneer DJ products that do follow that club paradigm.
@jamesmacdonald2803
@jamesmacdonald2803 5 ай бұрын
Great review, thanks Phil. It’s a cool bit of kit with some nice features and the portability plus Bluetooth are the main selling points. But I think it’s a bit too pricey, especially as you can get a pro 4 channel mixer for cheaper.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Certainly it is priced beyond the reach of everyone, although we think it'll do well at this price nonetheless.
@DJ_V_squared
@DJ_V_squared 5 ай бұрын
​@@digitaldjtips I don't think it will. They really missed the mark with the price especially with units like the Denon prime go out there that are still getting updated features with firmware updates. I could see why they didn't brand it with the pioneer DJ name.
@JohannesNielsen
@JohannesNielsen 5 ай бұрын
​@@digitaldjtipsso it's a failure waiting to happen and is unable to compete with Dennon and makes a good table weight
@andyraps
@andyraps 5 ай бұрын
@@DJ_V_squared the Prime Go - whilst flawed, I can’t stand the horizontal EQs - is a brilliant unit with IMO better features than this at 2/3 price. Tech like Lexicon gets around having to maintain RB and Engine libraries.
@fokisensei
@fokisensei 5 ай бұрын
Hey Denon & Numark, can i copy your homework? Sure, no thing, just modify a bit :D edit: I just realized that this is for 1,499 USD? Are they on drugs?
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 5 ай бұрын
AT is just as crappy as Pioneer. Their fansheep still buy it. Even for 1500 bucks. LOL
@starli7448
@starli7448 5 ай бұрын
Hiya Phil, great review as always mate! Do you think Pioneer/AlphaTheta will reveal anything else at NAMM this week or do you think this and the Wave Eight are it for now? Cheers
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Think that's it
@djcaru1
@djcaru1 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@PlantsmithAgro-bn7zt
@PlantsmithAgro-bn7zt 5 ай бұрын
This is amazing looking forward much more funny time on the way 💯🙏🎶✌️👌🤘👍👊💗✨
@djruslandiniodj
@djruslandiniodj 4 ай бұрын
good design
@emeryssschizii7518
@emeryssschizii7518 5 ай бұрын
Hello Phil. Do you know if this device can directly control the rekordbox software in a mac/PC, like a normal controller? I normally use rekordbox in my mac to set up the hot cues... Also, do you think we can scratch on this thing? Great vid btw!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yes, it can control RB in software mode (with Serato coming in the summer apparently). And yes, you can scratch on it.
@JimONeill
@JimONeill 5 ай бұрын
The should rename the company AlphaBeta because with this gear, they're not fully there yet. :)
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
See what you did there...
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz
@Nogi-aka-DJNugz 5 ай бұрын
Love the bigger jog wheels Phil! How’s the battery life? I use the Denon Prime Go twice a week, this sounds interesting! Battery life is 5 hours per the website
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
We didn't run the battery flat so can't give you our "roadtested" battery life figure. Several hours though.
@JimONeill
@JimONeill 5 ай бұрын
For that price it should have built in speakers. Nah, I'm not impressed with this device. Denon & Numark are ahead on this one.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
to be fair, not everyone wants built in speakers
@JimONeill
@JimONeill 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips but considering the price. not having them begs the question why would I need to purchase this item when other products have more benefits including streaming at a lower price bracket.
@EdPottsUK
@EdPottsUK 5 ай бұрын
Seems pretty cool to be and the Bluetooth option is brilliant. Like others have said though is a little pricey.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It's easy to lower prices than to raise them
@MarcDesco18
@MarcDesco18 5 ай бұрын
Wow when I saw the rumours about this I was quite worried about PRIME GO being completely blown out of the water. Glad I don't have to replace that one just yet. At least AlphaTheta is paying attention to the competition... just not what the DJs actually want/need
@NiGhTsHaDeGr
@NiGhTsHaDeGr 5 ай бұрын
Great review!!! AlphaTheta rebranding post was all about creativity and innovations. I was expecting to see a standalone with STEMS feature after Prime 4+. Such would be quite competitive. Sadly even streaming services are missing. I hope "streaming features" are hidden and will be revealed with some firmware upgrade soon.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You and me both! I don't think it's as important as some people think but it is a curious oversight.
@james141111
@james141111 5 ай бұрын
Historically Pioneer have not been great at adding features to already released kit in my experience, one its out its out. I get the feeling they always want to sell you the next shiny thing rather than look after their existing customers.
@verybighomer
@verybighomer 5 ай бұрын
Like the layout and overall look. Very clean and not cramped, everything you need available. Personally I would prefer some colour on the pads. Not necessarily full colour, but a little strip like on the newer Denon devices. And a screen that can be tilted would be nice.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yeah at least the two colours for loops and cues would have been nice on the pads.
@dranek
@dranek 4 ай бұрын
How does the sound quality of this compare to the rx3 and xz?
@JohnHermans
@JohnHermans 5 ай бұрын
Hi Phil what do you think about the price ? I think it is expensive.especially when you compare it to the DenonDJ GO
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
People will pay it
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 5 ай бұрын
'cLuB sTanDard' sadly still seems to work on their sheep, so yeah, they will sell a lot. People buy Opus quad like stupid, even that ancient XZ... for $2500
@fruitysuit
@fruitysuit 5 ай бұрын
You really hit all the points I needed to hear! Super review! Key shift feature is such an integral part of how I DJ since getting on the engine OS with my Mixstream and i am always surprised how it is often overlooked and a missing feature in 2024. I do miss 8 pads, color effects and beatjump on the MIxstream. With those features it would be perfect for me.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@billmaries
@billmaries 5 ай бұрын
Yeah i feel like my flx4 does more, and I hate the tempo faders on that. These look the same size? BTW, if your doing key changes check out software called Rip X Daw to do so beforehand... million times better quality than doing it live plus stems are very high quality if you wanted to do that with some tracks also. I used to do key changes all the time on my old ddj 1000 but now prefer to do it beforehand as high quality as I can with Ripx daw
@JJaybic
@JJaybic 14 күн бұрын
I love your shirt. It is amazing. I also have a opus quad.... pioneer saidI was going th have Amazon music on it but....not so much. Didn't bring it in after beta.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 14 күн бұрын
Thanks! And I do not recall Pioneer DJ ever saying that...
@larslotto
@larslotto 5 ай бұрын
Nice review! Do you know if it will support HFS+ on usb drives? I know the Denon Prime Go only supports FAT32
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Not sure from memory, but maybe!
@RodrigoVolta
@RodrigoVolta 5 ай бұрын
InMusic já tinha a Prime Go e a Mixstream faz tempo e só a gora a Alpha-Theta (ou seria Pioneer) resolveu lançar um "clone" custando o dobro?? Por esse preço pego uma SC-Live que é muito mais equipamento!
@slutstegetstudio3473
@slutstegetstudio3473 5 ай бұрын
Does it analyze tracks on the unit or do you still need to use rekordbox and pre-analyze all tracks?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You analyse ahead of time
@hardkore360
@hardkore360 5 ай бұрын
​@@digitaldjtipswow what bummer! For the asking price you would expect all the goodies inside this one unit to eliminate lugging around any other hardware 😢😢😢
@Sheldsss
@Sheldsss 5 ай бұрын
Bluetooth from the phone is a cool feature! Do you think this will be coming to the Opus Quad update with the waveform? Also slip mode update would be nice on Opus.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Two good points. Can't see why they wouldn't add Slip to the Quad in this way, nor indeed the Bluetooth function.
@johneccles9051
@johneccles9051 5 ай бұрын
With the Bluetooth is it for one channel or both as the demo shows only one. What’s the max size ssd card can be inserted in to the unit
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It is for one channel of your choice
@maus3454
@maus3454 5 ай бұрын
Is the USB port on the back Class Compliant like on the Go? And can we have USB sticks or SD Cards with RekordBox exports on their bigger than 128GB? And last question: Is there audio review?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Don't know that, sorry.
@nermaldigital
@nermaldigital 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree with others here on price tag. £1.5k and it looks more like an FLX4 finish than a Rev-7. I dont like the direction in design myself and have been pioneer for so long.
@djeslic5377
@djeslic5377 5 ай бұрын
Great video and coverage (As usual)... Unfortunately it'll never be the unit for me bluetooth or not. It feels like a Pioneer late response to the Prime Go but at almost twice the price.
@snnwww1831
@snnwww1831 3 ай бұрын
Is it possible to control dry wet of the color filter knob ? Like on the DJM900NXS 2
@jvidsonyt
@jvidsonyt 5 ай бұрын
I love the look, the size and almost everything about this unit. BUT.. Twice the price of a Mixstream Go with less features and an extra monthly subscription.. come on Pioneer. Give use something disruptive like the DDJ-1000 again. The only reason would be the existing rekordbox support which is using a different file format as well.. At this price point it’s very hard to consider. This will push Denon even more I’d assume. More competition is always great and I wont be surprised if Denon will push it’s own bluetooth update on all Engine OS devices sooner than expected.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
There's no monthly subscription unless you want to use Rekordbox Creative/Pro, which there is no need to do.
@DJKSWIFT-vw3xb
@DJKSWIFT-vw3xb 5 ай бұрын
Can i just plug my external ssd or sd card in to this & start using it or do i have to set my music up with a program like the mixsream pro has like "Engine"?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You prepare your music with Rekordbox, in the same way, yes.
@PAE47
@PAE47 5 ай бұрын
I like this 1 , are the jogs mechanical? , Thankyou for the nice review
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No, they are capacitive.
@PAE47
@PAE47 5 ай бұрын
Thanks , perfer capacitive
@james141111
@james141111 5 ай бұрын
This is what drives me mad about Pioneer and why I switched to Denon, they always give you as few features as they can get away with for the maximum price, all the missing features on here are not things they dont know about, cant do or cost a lot to implement, they have most of them on other devices, they are actually choosing no to give you them. Thats fine for pro or more obscure features but they even do it with the basics, aux, key shift etc
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
I am hoping they add key shift, I really am
@kuyaChrischan
@kuyaChrischan 5 ай бұрын
I think having less physical buttons will take some getting used to. Not really a fan of having effects, master tempo, and quantize tucked in the touch screen. But I do see the appeal for this for DJs who are looking for a more portable setup. I could also see this being used for preparation assuming we could edit beat grids on-device.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You can't really edit grid on the device, not like you can on a laptop
@kuyaChrischan
@kuyaChrischan 5 ай бұрын
That's a bummer. Maybe they can consider adding that functionality with an update or something.
@djcal623
@djcal623 5 ай бұрын
Been rocking my 1000 since 2018. I've been itching for something new but also been wanting more portability and didn't want to leave pioneer because I'm comfortable with there products layout. The fact that not only can I use this without my computer but also use my phone just about made me giddy...I think this is the 1 for me
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Good to hear it's hitting the mark with you!
@karaoke6861
@karaoke6861 5 ай бұрын
Hi, congrat for your great vids! Is tere Stems feature aboard please ?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No
@karaoke6861
@karaoke6861 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips So it's very expensive
@CaramelPapiGaming
@CaramelPapiGaming 5 ай бұрын
That bluetooth feature is game changing, do you see it replacing the streaming services down the line, or maybe giving more options for streaming like Apple Music/Spotify?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
You definitely could stream into here using those or any music sources, it's not practical for track-after-track DJing though, just for one-offs.
@NexuJin
@NexuJin 5 ай бұрын
Nice review Phil. At first glance it looks like they took the design of DDJ-400/FLX4 and made it standalone, which I quite like for it's simplicity. But that price point is a hard sell when Mixstream Pro Go and DJ Prime Go sits easily under that. It's also close to the cost of a XDJ-RX3, which packs quite more features, but less portable. Have someone handed James Hype one of these unit yet? Would love to hear his opinion on this.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No we haven't shown it to James yet. It's not a competitor to the RX3, as it's aiming at a different type of DJ.
@lasa6619
@lasa6619 4 ай бұрын
Come to this corner until they fixing all said cons with more added advanced features with a reasonable price tag in the next release which i forecast…. 🤔 they’ll call it The Omnis-Quad 🤓😎 Thank you Phill for the review as always ♥️🇱🇰
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 4 ай бұрын
We shall see...
@davidsencar
@davidsencar 5 ай бұрын
Thanks Phil for the review. Im not really a fan of the simplistic layout and the price is way to high for what it can offer. I hope well see Alpha Theta releasing more equipment geared towards clubs in the future.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see how this brand develops.
@kennethmalafy8012
@kennethmalafy8012 5 ай бұрын
Sticking with the Prime GO on this. Hope "Pioneer's" new direction isn't a watered down, less innovative (but more expensive) version of Denon.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
I doubt that was the marketing conversation! 🤣
@kreature6618
@kreature6618 5 ай бұрын
It will be mate, I guarantee you! Cheap, basic, dumbed down products sold at a premium price, that’s what marketing exc’s can get away with, same with the fall of Hollywood and movies, this generation are so stupid and easily fooled.
@kennethmalafy8012
@kennethmalafy8012 5 ай бұрын
@digitaldjtips ​Still stunned about the lack of streaming on this in the "modern" era (same with the Opus Quad). A new product that is not as up to date as your competitor's older products but considerably higher in price..... No doubt it will sell out because of the branding but it really does make you wonder about things​
@dj.scio.france
@dj.scio.france 5 ай бұрын
Denon Prime Go ?
@Mr.E-UK
@Mr.E-UK 3 ай бұрын
I have the Denon Go I like the decks but and it’s a big but the Denon Engine software is nowhere near as good Rekordbox and is buggy!
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 4 ай бұрын
If price isn’t a factor which of these standalone units would you recommend ? Under 1500 bucks I think meaning the lower level gear
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 4 ай бұрын
We recommend everything we give decent review scores too, so it comes down to: Which one has the features you're looking for?
@djtropicaldisco
@djtropicaldisco 5 ай бұрын
No DMX (or SoundSwitch), sampling, touchscreen effects, streaming. The Prime Go has all these and more... I'm in the market for a portable board was hoping this would up the game... not even close. I'll def be getting the Go over this (I wonder if Denon are making any announcements at NAMM Prime go 2!! Image that compared to this!!!) Thank you
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Don't think they will be or we'd have heard about it by now.
@UrbanExplorer614
@UrbanExplorer614 5 ай бұрын
If Teenage Engineer designed DJ gear.... Overpriced, and offers nothing useful over the much cheaper Denon Go.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It does have a Teenage Engineering vibe about it now you come to mention it!
@trancevoyagesessions
@trancevoyagesessions 5 ай бұрын
This is entry level kit at a pro level price...
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Definitely not entry level in our opinion, what makes you say that?
@Foodgloriousfoodish
@Foodgloriousfoodish 5 ай бұрын
Why isn’t it entry level? It’s as basic as they come in an all in one unit for beginners and looks cheap. That’s called entry level in anyone’s eyes based on functionality. The price doesn’t warrant it being not an entry level!! You lot will say anything so you keep licking Pioneers arse to get free stuff to review. Biased reviews are the worst!!
@dranek
@dranek 4 ай бұрын
Can you switch USB drives without a pause in music? I.e. does a loaded track say on the channel when you remove a USB drive?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 4 ай бұрын
Not sure but you could plug two In at once I guess (not checked)
@dranek
@dranek 4 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips there is only one USB-A port though. Are you saying have one USB-C flash drive and one USB-A flash drive?
@homepc-carlisle
@homepc-carlisle 5 ай бұрын
The Bluetooth was supposed to be part of Engine DJ 3.2 update, maybe it will come quicker now
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Maybe!
@leaveempty5320
@leaveempty5320 5 ай бұрын
I'd have to try it, but maybe too big a move from physical controls to touchscreen. I've got used to using the pads for "stems", so that could be quite a loss. Thanks for the review.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
I think no stems at all would be the bigger loss! As I said in the review, this model is definitely more suited to less technical DJ styles.
@ericcollazo2046
@ericcollazo2046 5 ай бұрын
Is serato dj pro going to be supported on this controller?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yes, in the summer
@philanderson3533
@philanderson3533 5 ай бұрын
thanks for the review and everything but I would not pay almost £1400 for a 2 channel unit, I think they have priced themselves out of the market with that range for most people. You can get a Denon Go and a 4 channel mixer for much less, there is no streaming or key shift plus it looks like a fisher price toy. I really hope this is not the way they are going now or they will kill the Pioneer brand within a decade.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
We definitely want to see streaming and key shift added, former more likely than the latter though.
@roberthypeofficial
@roberthypeofficial 5 ай бұрын
I think that's a miss! Doesn't look good and Denon and numark are doing good job on this kind of system
@petervrolijk5788
@petervrolijk5788 5 ай бұрын
Thank you Phill! Very clear revieuw as always. But is this the only news from Namm 2024 on DJ gear? Or are you keeping some things secret for the coming days? Biggest news till now is a different silly name and two items ( Exp DJ aome sort Atari game console ) and this copy of the Denon Go. If this is a launch of a new name its a poor one. Nothing for in the clubs? Nothing news from Denon, Reloop, Serato...??? 😢
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Very little. New Reloop controller, that's about it (see News on the site).
@JamesMincey
@JamesMincey 5 ай бұрын
I hope that the internal battery is user replaceable, otherwise it won't really be portable anymore once the it degrades (like batteries in smartphones, Bluetooth speakers, etc. do after a couple years). Also, I don't like that it has the rubberized finish. Those always become a sticky, peeling mess after a while (like some PC mice and even older versions of Aiaiai's TMA-2).
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It's not overly rubberised.
@aumyraggo
@aumyraggo 5 ай бұрын
Do you think we will see a NEW portable battery powered Denon unit this year/soon?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No idea!
@harivasan9650
@harivasan9650 5 ай бұрын
If streaming from bluetooth can you separate stems? I assume not
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No stems on this controller, so not sure what you're asking
@lucabertolaso2167
@lucabertolaso2167 5 ай бұрын
I love my flx4 + iPad
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Good to hear!
@tarekith
@tarekith 5 ай бұрын
Does it have beat sync settings still?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@MrThomAce
@MrThomAce 5 ай бұрын
Mixture of Numark Mixstream and Prime Go. So, we finally get a "Pioneer DJ" which is basically a Denon DJ. Fine. :) The BT playing is nice feature, but that would be the least used feature in such system. No streaming services is a big disappointing. I'll stay with my Prime 2.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Gotta hope streaming is coming to this and the Opus Quad - big miss so far in our view.
@MrThomAce
@MrThomAce 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips And onboard DMX controller? :) What about that? SoundSwitch? Internal SSD bay? Remote library function?
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 5 ай бұрын
BT will come to Engine, don't worry guys
@MrThomAce
@MrThomAce 5 ай бұрын
@@BlueHawk80 Do you know what is under the heatsink of the motherboard? I haven't disassembled my prime, yet to check it. if the chip is there for BT, then it wouldn't be an issue, that's for sure. The mainboard looks like an industrial SBC that most probably utilizing some 4 core SoC. But, I have no clue what is under the heatsink. If you have insight info, then you probably should not talk like that. If you don't, then you should rephrase your sentence because in that case some people would have expectations based on what you have said and they will fingerpointing to Denon if it is not coming that soon... Do not get it wrong, it is just a friendly talk between DJs / musicians / music producers.
@BlueHawk80
@BlueHawk80 5 ай бұрын
Chill my friend. It IS coming. Nothing more to say, nothing I'm not allowed to say. You can believe me, but you don't have to. Personally I don't care about BT anyway, but hey if that is all what Pioneer can offer as USP here, than this is certainly no exclusive thing. Cheers and happy spinning! @@MrThomAce
@meganoid_9001
@meganoid_9001 5 ай бұрын
Could you please test it at work? How does it perform? Is it ergonomic? Any practical difference of handling compared to alternative products?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Not sure what you're asking, sorry. We go into a lot of detail here and in our written review.
@meganoid_9001
@meganoid_9001 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips I apologize for my English. The video you posted is a mere product description based on technical specifications and aesthetic appearance. In summary, it consists of theoretical words and opinions. It would be more useful for everyone if you were to test this product in the field, using its features concretely, pointing out any flaws, and comparing its actual qualities (not the theoretical ones mentioned in the user manual) with those of similar-grade controllers on the market, including some Pioneer DJM mixers. Have I expressed myself clearly? Greetings from one of your customers, even if incognito🙂.
@djministry
@djministry 5 ай бұрын
I think price is to high better add 200 more and buy RX3 or buy cheeper version from Denon also they have better sound then Pioneer. Phil did they put better sound in omnis duo then previous models ? or same Pioneer sound ?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Sounds fine to us
@DISCOTEKED
@DISCOTEKED 5 ай бұрын
it has to be said that the looping button was present in the XDJ-R1 very useful then disappeared and now back again as novely ?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Forgot about that!
@DISCOTEKED
@DISCOTEKED 5 ай бұрын
I still got mine, really love that feature , so easy @@digitaldjtips
@tracyjones439
@tracyjones439 5 ай бұрын
Is it compatible with Sonos speakers w/o latency issues?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No, nothing is
@guysofly4315
@guysofly4315 5 ай бұрын
How does the sound quality compare to the Prime Go?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Sounds good to us
@vinaidhanraj5553
@vinaidhanraj5553 5 ай бұрын
Is there no Low/High pass filters? Love the XLR though!
@martinalvarez4010
@martinalvarez4010 5 ай бұрын
I think thats the 'color' knob
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@TradingTheta89
@TradingTheta89 5 ай бұрын
I own a Prime go. If i didn't, and I saw this, id still go with the GO. Seems more complete, although yes, the layout... but you get used to it. I only use the GO once in a while though.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
We do love a session on the Prime Go, it was my "lockdown controller of choice".
@m3zza9
@m3zza9 Ай бұрын
As long as you mix using your wired headphones to monitor, then it is fine to send audio to Bluetooth speakers
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips Ай бұрын
If you're mixing 100% in headphones, yes indeed (although it is still irritating to hear sound "behind" your headphones if/when you take them off)
@realdjvillanova
@realdjvillanova 5 ай бұрын
After some years... I wait that's Denon DJ release this Prime Go next Gen 😂😂😂
@djdennisluke6749
@djdennisluke6749 5 ай бұрын
While I too am a fan of innovation and thinking out of the box, I feel that this device is still in the development stage similar to when Pioneer DJ/Rekordbox’s initial STEMS offerings. While keeping it simple, it still lacks the versatility that the Denon Prime GO offers out of the box. The funky aesthetics like this and the Opus Quad, I can get past if it offers the tools and input options that I require but, “it has been measured, it has been weighed, and it has been found wanting!”
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
What is missing for you?
@IncreatorAgent
@IncreatorAgent 5 ай бұрын
Big question: I can use tidal with this unit?
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
No, it has no streaming services built in.
@luisynayan
@luisynayan 5 ай бұрын
As one of the first Alpha Theta branded units to come out, this one is a bit disappointing. Some of the design choices like the bluetooth output and lack of key lock almost makes it feel like the product design team behind this have never even DJ’d before. Although I agree with the conclusion of “who this is for”, I start to ask questions like “who asked for this?” and “what dj problems is this really solving for that the other pioneer dj units do not?”. I sure hope Alpha Theta comes out with better products in the future…
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Bluetooth Out is really strange, guess the chip could do it so they thought "why not?"
@chavaraujo
@chavaraujo 4 ай бұрын
Please do a tutorial like with the opus quad. Would be really helpful
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 4 ай бұрын
Try this: www.digitaldjtips.com/pioneer-dj-opus-quad-training-tutorial-video-manual-guide/
@dejavuking
@dejavuking 5 ай бұрын
If you don’t need the portability and built in battery. The denon prime 4+ was £1990 direct from Amazon U.K. earlier this week. So £500 more you get the denon prime 4+ or this omnis duo!. I’m learning on a Hercules starlight. Im intending to go from entry basic to high end and cut out the mid so I don’t need to upgrade again!. The omnis duo would never ever be on my shortlist, if it was £800 maybbe but now for just shy of £1400!.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It is aimed at a specific segment of the market, P4+ is a great unit but not the same target user.
@TomPopel
@TomPopel 5 ай бұрын
Great Review! But that price is a sticker shock for what it is. If you’ve got sup par software and missing key features that’s a lot of money. They’ll struggle to shift a lot of units. Maybe a few rich kid bedroom DJs will pick it up.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Lots of pros as a second system we guess.
@sxbastianzura
@sxbastianzura 5 ай бұрын
Will it only come out in blue? Not really a fan of the color. Thanks for the review tho.
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Yes as far as we know although Pioneer DJ is known for special editions in different colours.
@kalman_
@kalman_ 5 ай бұрын
I have a little bit of CDJ 500 flashback.
@B.E.R.T.
@B.E.R.T. 5 ай бұрын
$1500 for something Numark mixstream pro go already provides for half the price?? With the consistent firmware upgrades engine dj has been providing I’m glad I picked up the pro go. Waiting for that Bluetooth update!!!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
We are too, hope it's not too long...
@djwarmanhappyhardcore4957
@djwarmanhappyhardcore4957 5 ай бұрын
I love you chanel mate and the new equipment wot coming out for 2024 buddy. I can not see the new dj controller is batter then the denon dj prime go. A part from Bluetooth thas it relly like. Not bad but I pick the denon dj prime go mate
@SherwinBajao
@SherwinBajao 5 ай бұрын
Wow, AT still using Master?
@SticksAandstonesBozo
@SticksAandstonesBozo 4 ай бұрын
Every chick who is playing a hotel pool this summer will get one of these.
@MarcDesco18
@MarcDesco18 5 ай бұрын
You should mention if it uses the new Rekordbox Plus Library or not
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
It does
@tylerguy4496
@tylerguy4496 5 ай бұрын
Bluetooth is cool, BT out is strange, unless it's Bluetooth 5.1+ which should virtually have no latency. But good luck finding a speaker carrying that standard. The jog wheels are nice, and I like the clean layout but it does seem to fall short otherwise to the 4 year old prime go. And since the Prime Go is still cheaper... With more features...(Again aside from the jog wheels and Bluetooth) Is still personally would opt for that instead. Again like the clean look but there needs to be 4 more buttons. I turn slip mode on and off more frequently that I would prefer a button vs fumbling on a touch screen. I do like the blue as well. Denon and AlphaTheta going toe to toe, and we as DJs win!
@digitaldjtips
@digitaldjtips 5 ай бұрын
Gonna 'fess up we didn't test the BT, but I'd be very surprised if the latency is DJ-able with.
@tylerguy4496
@tylerguy4496 5 ай бұрын
@@digitaldjtips yeah probably so. Again only newer versions of BT will be low latency and there are no speakers on the market making use of it yet. Better stick to hardwired or this SonicLink
@eteocle100
@eteocle100 5 ай бұрын
The layout seems to be borrowed by Omni turntable by HEADACHE SOUND ELECTRONICS Ltd, isn't it?
@GinSoul
@GinSoul 5 ай бұрын
When you drunk this controller will become a nightmare with no contrast in anything user interface wise... Plus the rubbered coating will desolve after a couple weeks. Had a couple coated hardware items and ALL lost the coating over time.
@JamesMincey
@JamesMincey 5 ай бұрын
Yep, this exactly. It happened with my older Aiaiai headphones (luckily they don't use the rubberized soft-touch finish on their current products).
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