Inside Demon's Souls Remake on PS5: The Bluepoint Technology Breakdown

Demon's Souls Remake is coming to PlayStation 5 and it's looking stunning. In this special Digital Foundry presentation, Bluepoint Games talks tech with John Linneman. Find out how the studio brought the game to PlayStation 5, how two engines work together as one, and what PS5 hardware features are used, how quality and performance modes work - and so, so much more.
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[@Tarxon]

01:54 Experience of the first Demon's Souls 04:40 Running the same code? 05:35 Rendering Technology 09:50 Global Illumination 11:29 Optimizing frame rates 13:19 Rumors on Ray tracing 14:45 SSD for Demon's Souls 21:21 How much have you grown? 24:17 How long does remastering took? 26:24 Anything from FromSoftware? 26:50 Polygons? 35:21 Fire! 38:18 Dead corpses 43:11 Tempest 3D Audio 48:58 Rendering fire on oil 51:50 Particles 55:45 Light coming from the player 58:00 Usage of CPU capacities 59:40 Extra detail of animations 1:01:08 Experience on the field 1:02:52 Japanese comments 1:03:20 Final comments

[@matrix9452]

Thank you man

[@Mamon_Saleh]

not all heroes wear capes

[@tech1238]

Are you the gaming time stamps guy? I appreciate you

[@Tarxon]

@@tech1238 I'm the back up of the back up of the back up of the back up; whose OCD sometimes kicks off. I'm glad I could help.

[@ivyssauro123]

You're a god among men

[@Battue64]

You can tell the developers are excited to talk about all the technical things with John and not deal with more simplified questions they usually get. DF is killing it, you love to see it.

[@frogg4711]

it's probably still simplified, just not to the same degree

[@gashery]

@@frogg4711 Agreed - However it seems to be on-the-fly simplification... and with that in mind they really walk that line quite well. Keeping it in-depth yet not giving away trade secrets and still making it interesting to listen to. Obviously it helps that Mr. Linneman understand and is familiar with the details of these technologies.

[@ionseven]

Still very simplified. These are glorified commercials, but its nice it includes devs dropping some light concepts and what worked and what didn't.

[@MrBenedick14]

Like john said his not a developers,.. But his knowledge in tech is more deeper than any hardcore console and pc gamer out there...its really amazing how digital foundry had so much talent.. Gamingbolt is a wanna be digital foundry, i found out that gamingbolt is waiting for digital foundry to do the analysis first then they will copy 70% what digital foundry said what they found in the game... Gamingbolt has no credibility, as gaming analysis, they don't have the prove on their analysis, they dont even know how chekerboard rendering is... Digital foundry is the only legit gaming analysis on KZbin

[@andrewl8514]

This is why I dislike these gaming 'news' channels that focus on hate mongering. They paint the whole gaming industry as this evil corporate cash cow when it's actually made of passionate people like these guys that love what they do.

[@waveplay3978]

Jesus Christ, Digital Foundry is one of the most valuable gaming channels. So interesting to learn more about the technical side of making games. Appreciating you guys a lot.

[@mikematthews8796]

I’m pretty sure John Linneman is the Energizer Bunny at DF right now, pumping out videos, surprise guesting on streams at midnight his time, and generally giving the people what they want: quality content. Keep up the good work and make sure you save some time for some well earned sleep!

[@TheMateus56]

Digital Foundry is on fire baby, thats how i like it.

[@2drealms196]

Don't worry the fire department is on its way.

[@Chill.....]

I see a heart coming soom

[@juantelle1]

its so on fire now ign wants to copy them

[@andrewunknown111]

Haha just like the Xbox’s allegedly

[@andrewunknown111]

@@soodizzyy that’s why I say allegedly

[@HorseheadNebula85]

An hour of Linneman interviewing devs? The world might be mended after all...

[@w1nch3ster1]

Umbasa.

[@acidreighn]

"so the world might be mended..."

[@zipzeolocke2]

I wonder if they are related to Timothy Dalton and Roger Moore. It's ironic they both share relation to James Bond in this interview

[@Kabodanki]

We have for 4 year of "I don't know where I am" and "Snifing Xi Jinping" ahead of us, cheers

[@Doggi2dog]

I'll be mending the world on the 19th.... because Europe.

[@OroborOSX11]

Bluepoint is a rare gem. They seem to work tirelessly to create astounding games that all have extremely dynamic systems working together. They’ve treated Demon’s Souls with the respect it deserves, and I can’t wait to play it.

[@MisterHeroman]

You mean disrespect.

[@redseagaming7832]

@@MisterHeroman what do you mean disrespect it looks amazing

[@MisterHeroman]

@@redseagaming7832 Only on a technical level. It's completely different from the original in terms of art design.

[@fenix_tx_1342]

@@MisterHeroman good thing you can still just play the original

[@MisterHeroman]

@@fenix_tx_1342 Too bad about the new one.

[@johndesper9425]

"It looks like a slideshow at 30 FPS" -- Bluepoint Games Hopefully this understanding becomes more commonplace.

[@kraenk12]

They have pretty bad motion blur.

[@kresimirmandic3807]

No. There are some players who can't tell much of a difference between 30 & 60. Saying 30 is a slideshow is way to harsh even if it comes from the developer itself.

[@johndesper9425]

@@kresimirmandic3807 There are almost no players who can't tell the difference side-by-side. Anyone with two eyes has the capability to tell. 60 FPS is twice as smooth. And who exactly care that there's a percentage that can't immediately realize a difference or if some would prefer greater resolution or graphics? I never said framerate is universally preferred; it obviously isn't, which is exactly why Bluepoint's perspective should be more commonplace.

[@bigboiariel]

@@johndesper9425 the pc gaming community would like to have a word with you

[@johndesper9425]

@@bigboiariel The "PC gaming community" would have my back. And when I do game, I do use a PC.

[@Asairus-San]

Honestly, this just made me realize how little difference there is between cinematic and performance mode because the game already looks stunning. I much rather go for the stable 60 frames for the more fluid gameplay.

[@mattyork7625]

It's true. It looks so good even 1440p looks like native 4k. It's insane. Barely a difference between the two modes visually. I'll still be checking out both modes to see what it actually looks like on my tv. Game looks unreal though..

[@SWINDLA87]

Bare in mind you can't really tell the difference if watching on a phone screen. 60fps all the way for me too though.

[@chillis8267]

@@mattyork7625 Performance mode is 1440p checkerboarded to 4k. its not a cheap upscaling from 1440. Checkerboard rendering is almost as good as DLSS.

[@blair5475]

@@chillis8267 No it's not.

[@blair5475]

@@chillis8267 Performance mode is 1800p (Dynamic 4K). There is no 1440p support on PS5.

[@KrisPBurger]

Imagine bluepoint remaking Dead Space with the new graphics. Oh god it would be amazing.

[@jbt.395]

I don't think Dead Space even need a remake tbh. This game holds up so well even now on PC. And with reshading etc.. this looks even more impressive. There's just the texture that are lacking depth. But even then, Dead Space looks freaking good

[@AppericateGamer]

Cant imagine original dead space even looking better

[@THUNDERxX45]

I'd sacrifice a whole mining colony for that!

[@peckc16]

Dead space with Ray tracing 😍

[@armandogracia1650]

My favorite saga of all time, I hope in a future this happen :(

[@ABlackPatriot]

That moment when the Cinematic mode basically looks like game trailers we've envied for the last 10 years...

[@erics8658]

Omg you’re right

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

Nailed it.

[@MrCris2021]

IT reminds me of Deep Dawn, that old ps4 game that there only was one video and that was it.

[@krookedvulture]

@Shaman Xeed ... never beat Asylum Demon ...

[@MrCris2021]

@Shaman Xeed Hmmmmm okay...

[@MoeMalik]

This deserves the title of “technical marvel”, this game was in the perfect hands from the very beginning

[@MoeMalik]

@Shaman Xeed okay troll, you had your fun, leave now

[@Arranvin9]

@a hot diarrhea Your name is truly apt.

[@brumbotumbus]

I mean yeah, but it does have hefty fps dips, from experience

[@palawolfy4855]

@@brumbotumbus i have seen many playthroughts already and there has only been like couple places where fps dips a little, but thats it. Game runs fantastic in 60fps from what i have seen

[@brumbotumbus]

@@palawolfy4855 it seems to only be when entering areas, my whole playthrough it didnt happen much

[@moviestarkiller]

1 hour digital foundry? I'm all in!!!!!

[@deadshot9946]

Come on iiiiinnnnnn

[@nawdawg4300]

Exactly how I feel. Demon Sould? Digital Foundry? 1hr long!? Sign me up.

[@KarlDag]

Heck yes. Just need some whiskey and I'm all set

[@wgo523]

@@nawdawg4300 it's Demon's Shoulds*

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

And my axe!

[@joecoolrp]

My next gen hype has absolutely crescendoed getting to hear John discuss the game with three of its creators 🎉🎉

[@metfan4l]

The wait is killing me, can't wait to dive into this.

[@twosnakse]

Hopefully it doesn’t cut too much into your uploading rare Tallica footage for us 😉 🤘🏽

[@phoenixstrong]

So...... close

[@nathaniliescu4597]

Sad

[@Seraphina_FF14]

I've imported the asia version when Demon's Souls first got released and platinumed the us version later on. I love the game (more than the other souls games even) and to see it return in such a beautiful way is incredible. I luckily only have to wait 7 more days (if nothing goes wrong).

[@Adamchevy]

@Dylan Zammit Yeah me too.

[@MrShoopezino]

Played about 7 or 8 hours. So far the game is absolutely stunning. The animations, haptic feedback, sound design, particles, music, the impact of steel on steel and everything else is just wonderful. Smooth and well optimized. There is a bit of texture pop in here and there but that's it

[@joeyxl3456]

Wow, sounds amazing

[@brumbotumbus]

Really? I was gettin fps dips quite a bit, mainly stonefang, and the tower knight fight was frame droppy too, 90 percent of the time its smooth

[@MrShoopezino]

@@brumbotumbus i personally didn't notice them but it is possible

[@Jayjayxxx007]

That I/o compressor as well as decompressed is insane sounding. Hearing how the developers didn’t even have too do it. That it was all done through hardware leaving time for more important details as far as gameplay. This is probably going too be the biggest game changer moving into the generation for game developers. At the very least first party devs.

[@Prodigy_Il]

This is why I'm excited for future games

[@tupactwin]

Insomniac sid they haven’t even tapped PS5 Full potential as they are just scratching the surface Not to mention a Pro refresh is coming 3 years from now on and UE5 is releasing late 2021. Couple that with developing time take more than a year. We are in no hurry for graphics, everything is laid out clean on the road.

[@neals6348]

I can't wait til we see devs really using the geometry engine and getting the most out of it they can in the next few years. From everything I've read and heard that thing is the real heart of the PS5s GPU. Next gen only first party games releasing in 2023+ should be spectacular.

[@MR-vg7yn]

It doesn't just affect first party devs. Hardware compression for storage I/O is a feature of the new XBox and the newest DirectX standard on PC as well. The PS5 compression, as far as I know, is the most efficient, but all current gen platforms now have this feature, which is great news because that means that the way devs can think about world building changes drastically on all platforms.

[@Jayjayxxx007]

@@lilyflower6265 imma have too find where they mentioned it I’m looking for it now

[@alexcla9445]

Xbox fan here: kudos to Bluepoint, Sony and especially Fromsoftware for making this masterpiece of a gaming series. Demon's Souls looks phenomenal and it's easily the best looking next gen game so far.

[@andrejr7151]

nice

[@adnanmicahchips2842]

@Mr Glass Lol because of? I can’t visualize a scenario where he said something funny.

[@alexcla9445]

@@adnanmicahchips2842 Yep, i didn't understand eiher. That's not me taking a shot on Xbox, i do think Series X will be amazing in every way, including exclusives. They have a lot of interesting games in the working. This is just me praising what should be praised. The game looks amazing.

[@pacogonzales5761]

All kudos to bluepoint. From software didn't help on the remake.

[@alexcla9445]

@@pacogonzales5761 Fromsoftware made 95% of the work: level design, lore, story, enemies design, bosses, items, etc. Bluepoint did an amazing job remaking it, but Demon's Souls is a Fromsoftware game.

[@phosphor112]

10 out of 10 interview, John. Between your and their enthusiasm and transparency on how things worked and what they did, it made for a great interview. Also, that ambient music in the background has me hyped for the game tomorrow.

[@WoLShiverify]

This is by far my favorite digital foundry video. John is amazing. I think the developers were very impressed with his knowledge. They genuinely seemed excited to explain and talk, and they didn't dumb it down. This is my favorite stuff, the nitty gritty, under the sheets analysis and discussion. Dare I say it? Bluepoint acquisition by Sony? LEGEND OF THE DRAGOON REMASTER? AHHHHHHH

[@syre1518]

you were right about the first one 👀

[@johnmarshall2439]

1440p at 60 is the sweet spot.

[@aki-sid]

But the PS5 doesn't even support 1440p

[@billygunn142]

@@aki-sid lol you don't know what you are on about

[@davidfodre1375]

@@aki-sid It can render at any resolution. It can't display 1440p tho

[@Oozaru85]

Native 1440p/120 should be the sweet spot. Thats how its been on PC for years. Thats how it should be on next gen consoles. Instead they try pushing 4K, even tho they cant deliver native 4K at 60fps in most AAA games.

[@aki-sid]

@@billygunn142 go ahead smartass tell me more

[@ExtremeLegend]

It baffles me that sony still haven't bought bluepoint games yet.

[@MexiCooki]

If this games does well(which will probably happen) sony should just buy bluepoint.

[@willinton06]

@@MexiCooki can you imagine Microsoft snatching them? That would be low

[@alexcla9445]

@@willinton06 Tbh both Microsoft and Sony should have 1 talented studio like BP dedicated to do remakes imo. They have a shit ton of dormant IPs.

[@braxinIV]

@@willinton06 actually that would be sick. They could go through Microsoft’s catalogue and bring new life to dead franchises.

[@ngolokantecar]

i can see bluepoint remaking a lot of old ps4 games in the future. demons souls is amazing which paves the way for a bloodborne remake. the second game from fromsoftware where sony holds the exclusive rights for

[@zedetach]

Finally, a developer that has their priority right. 60fps first, 4k second.

[@MajinErick]

NVMe's pipeline is what DirectStorage uses and it's coming to PC. Think about loading Hollow Knight in milliseconds. 4K will get a monstrous boost on PC.

[@redseagaming7832]

When I see the 30fps in the 60fps laid side-by-side I don't really see any difference I don't think we need 60fps because they both look the same

[@DuSeun]

@@redseagaming7832go to 7:40 there's a massive difference there

[@DuSeun]

@@redseagaming7832 Now that I'm thinking about it, are you even watching this video in 60 fps? Because the difference is night and day

[@Jwizzle45]

@@redseagaming7832 you really blind you telling me you can’t see the difference between 60fps and 30fps it’s literally choppy

[@beefknuckles]

The Bluepoint team is so incredibly talented. They really set an impossibly high bar for any other studio doing remakes.

[@beefknuckles]

@a hot diarrhea I can't imagine being so sad that you think somebody can get clout from a youtube comment. Lol

[@MisterHeroman]

@@beefknuckles Not that high, as bluepoint shot themselves in the foot by missing a lot of the art direction.

[@sneezydeezymcdeluxe7015]

@@MisterHeroman Did they fuck, the remake was outstanding.

[@SaggyWaggy-is8it]

​@@MisterHeroman art style and art direction isn't very important seeing as it depends on personal preference.

[@durjoymukherji]

the Amount of work put into each and every Second of each of your videos Just shows how much hardwork your team is doing. I see great things coming to this channel as the Next Gen Unravels and you guys deserve each and every bit of it! We need more game coverages! Keep em coming!!! :)

[@delpierro0815]

Do you guys ever sleep? Impressive coverage :)

[@kevintemido]

Hard works requires sleepless nights

[@matrix9452]

They have multiple employees, plus some videos are already done just waiting for embargo lifting.

[@Oozaru85]

They have multiple employees in different time zones. When John is recording a video, Rich slumbers soundly on his side of the globe.

[@VagrantValmar]

They don't

[@TaimatCR]

@@Oozaru85 lol what, rich is in the UK so is Tom, and Alex and John are both in Germany

[@JerryFlowersIII]

It's wild that this is a launch title. They're saying themselves the CPU is more powerful than they're able to use efficiently. Like always, this is only the beginning. Technologies will mature and people will learn how to really juice the silicon. Especially with RT, all we talk about is reflections, that will advance but there's also other uses for RT that console games have yet to show.

[@dun0790]

I hope more devs give Digital Foundry interview's post game release.

[@acquiescence5331]

John, you are appreciated.

[@stealthninja4299]

Crikey, you guys at Digital Foundry are working hard. This game looks so exciting. Great video, John

[@_obex]

9:16 - the devs make fun off their own quality mode ;D But they are right. The performance mode looks exactly the same and has twice the FPS. Really a no brainer what to choose...

[@randyhalfway]

I can't imagine the amount of work Digital Foundry has in front of them, with the launch of new consoles and tons of new games coming out all at once. I also can't imagine how they only have 1M subs! This is literally the most intelligent gaming channel on the internet.

[@leonthesleepy]

This is the first must have PS5 exclusive for me. Cant wait to get my hands on a PS5 and Demon Souls

[@MexiCooki]

Exactly I can wait for miles morales can’t say the same for demon souls

[@deskmanatee]

@@MexiCooki same here, will wait for a price drop on Miles since it's so short

[@MexiCooki]

@@deskmanatee same it’s only 8 hours long

[@leonthesleepy]

@@deskmanatee I'm gna have to wait a while for Demon Souls as well haha, gotta save up cash and i wanna see how the first wave of PS5's run.

[@Burgergio]

I honestly read your statement as “this is the first nut I have for a PS5 exclusive”. Don’t ask why 😂😂

[@montygill2835]

The performance mode on Demon's souls looks awesome 😁

[@TomlinsonHolman52583]

Yeah I think 60fps with still very high resolution is better than native 4K at 30fps. Especially since Demon's Souls doesn't have ray tracing to take away in Performance mode.

[@gamingjay141]

Yeah performance is the way. I didn't notice anything much better in cinematic that popped out immediately but the fps drop is definitely noticeable.

[@OdinStarz]

Honestly, at this point, it’s going to take me months to finish this game because the art design is just phenomenal. Great job Bluepoint!

[@MisterHeroman]

I'd say it's worse than the original.

[@rjejames28]

@@MisterHeroman trolling much...

[@MisterHeroman]

@@rjejames28 Sorry, no. It's a downgrade. It's better on a technical level, but there's just no heart and soul. Plus lots of needless liberties. Why'd they turn everything into Anor Londor?

[@voided_reality6863]

Gavin Moore's explanation of how the loading screens where what makes the game painful and how ps5's ssd removes that headache was awesome. Excellent perspective and is very relatable, I think the long wait to respawn is the absolute worst part of Souls games, looks like the new gen has fixed that bullshit.

[@billykotsos4642]

HAPPY NEW-GEN GUYS !!!!!!! LET'S ALL ENJOY THIS ONE!!!

[@deskmanatee]

Hell yeah! Xbox was not my thing last gen, but so far everything by Sony and Microsoft looks fantastic! Great time to be a gamer!

[@yrh002b8]

Not buying either but happy for all.

[@Greatsaint2000]

I'm getting every next-gen consoles under the sun and a RTX 3090 X2 (it’ll only cost me a kidney)

[@VengefulController]

A whole hour long damn

[@deskmanatee]

fr!! I bought a PS5 for this game, what a treat

[@user-sp8fi2zv2v]

@@deskmanatee 😎👍👍

[@AmrGdr]

and I sat down & watched it all eventhough I'm not buying the system anytime soon

[@blakecandesign9628]

@@deskmanatee I bought a PS5 for this game as well! I’ve been playing it for 4 hours now, most of that time was spent on character creation. Love it! 😂

[@deskmanatee]

@@blakecandesign9628 Duuuude! My PS5 is in transit for delivery today, hopefully it arrives soon and I'll see yo' azz in Boletaria! 😆

[@jaypappo]

DF is just at another level. Absolute pioneers, making history.

[@rogerarteaga2665]

In what? Interviews?

[@rogerarteaga2665]

@@Hfajardo97 There's a ton of people that have done this type of content since 2009. Don't bring up IGN they're literally bottom of the barrel garbage that can't even write their own articles and have to rip off other peoples work

[@jaypappo]

@@rogerarteaga2665 in general, their content is so good, industry reference. I love how much fun they make technical content

[@rogerarteaga2665]

@@Hfajardo97 I'm not going to research a damn thing for you. Look it up yourself there has been an assload of content creators and even PC enthusiasts that have done this type of work for fucking years. Digital Foundry falls under the same category of tech influencers and games. You act as if they're writing the bible here and are making history. Fucking relax. Not like they made or covered the NES or the Magnavox Odyssey.

[@danielvanark4660]

@@Hfajardo97 NX gamer would be one. It’s a small KZbinr, but he’s worth checking out

[@SGVSOUTHSIDE]

Now imagine a Legend of Dragoon remake or Syphon Filter remake

[@edmonngo8439]

that and vagrant story, chaos legion.

[@mappybc6097]

As much as I would love a Syphon Filter remake Konami owns the IP.

[@SGVSOUTHSIDE]

@@mappybc6097 what?no they don't. Sony owns Syphon filter🤣

[@umarabbasi7941]

@@mappybc6097 are you confusing Syphin Filter with Silent Hill?

[@mappybc6097]

@@umarabbasi7941 No. I wouldn't confuse a horror series with the only real competition metal gear had on the PS1. I seem to remember the studio doing SP closed after the Omega Strain and a Konami owned dev did Dark Mirror and Logan's shadow.

[@jofellxcite]

Watched the whole hour and man, I feel for bluepoint being a programmer myself as well. That job system on steroids, I could imagine how much they could've added to it knowing they didn't harness much of the CPU.

[@colemin2]

Soon it won't be humans trying to not tank the system when making a game. Instead, it'll be humans trying to add so much that the system finally concedes.

[@pipyakas]

I mean they had the entire last generation of consoles to learn parallel programming (and to an extend, the last-last generation as well, seeing how Bluepoint worked on some remasters for the PS3), yet the singlethreaded engine from FromSoft is still very much a bottleneck You have to look for a true complete rewrite to see the real potential of these new consoles

[@jofellxcite]

@@pipyakas unfortunately the real time interactive nature of games makes it harder to run things in parallel. It's not like you have the cell processor simulating fluid systems and sure, each particle could interact with each other and those could be parallelized. But with player input coming in to play as well as AI influencing environments, you can imagine how disruptions will be implemented / injected onto those parallel threads. That's tough since you're still going to have thread-locked resources still,and that's similar to having single-threaded applications.

[@jofellxcite]

@DoubleIntruder I would imagine though that multiple cores would be so much helpful with streaming and reading chat on a browser (in a pc). I could also imagine some of those cores in that 8-core zen2 are reserved for netcode and background tasks. I remember Watchdogs Legion implementing more sophisticated Ray tracing as well (reflections within reflections) that's more cpu-bound because they do those reflections on an interval rather than real-time (ie real-time to how the camera pans to a mirror or a reflective surface). That indicates to me that those are run in parallel rather than on the same high speed core. Tbh the camera is the real big culprit with these games not being able to run in multiple threads. I hope DF could make a video about how next gen games could be optimised more beyond your VRSs and your SSRs or cube maps. I love their episode where Alex Battaglia discussed how devs work on a time budget in Ray tracing in spider-man miles morales, describing further how every frame / millisecond count.

[@Zeegoner]

@DoubleIntruder You don't know what you're talking about. Just stop

[@geinsgreygoose395]

18:08 that SSD is stupidly fast

[@Evaquiel]

Love how the editor made the screen highlight for anyone that was talking. It looks simple, but it actually takes a bit of working considering the video's length. only for such a small detail. The extra layer DF goes into their videos are what makes them for me.

[@thatdudeKarim]

I really watched this whole 1hr long DF interview... And it was sublime 👍🏾👍🏾

[@Kousaburo]

The Killzone trilogy of 1, 2 and 3 need remasters...

[@stankbuddha]

Killzone 3 multiplayer was the best of that generation

[@w1nch3ster1]

I just want GG to give us a new Killzone as good as those. Shadow fall while gorgeous, didn't have the same caliber of gameplay. As excited as I am for Horizon, I'd much prefer a new Killzone.

[@mikejenkins4924]

@@w1nch3ster1 I'd have to agree on a new KZ. I really liked Shadowfall, but KZ2 was the pinnacle of that series.

[@tdRockxc568]

@@stankbuddha no it was kz2 mp that it’s best for that gen

[@loki2259]

Had so much fun in KZ2 Multiplayer..

[@NileSings]

This and John's Tony Hawk's 1+2 video are some of the best pieces of game journalism released this year.

[@crumbum847]

We need a Soul Reaver Remake

[@Hazzardous13]

Man, these interviews with John are just... the best. It's so refreshing to get an interview that's so deeply technical, and comes at it with the level of knowledge and questions that I have, rather than just whatever IGN would ask. But then, it's not just a GDC talk, John is also primarily a gamer, not a developer, so he comes at it from this refreshing angle of what's so exciting to see and play with. Not even picking up a PS5, but I couldn't pass up the opportunity to see John dig into this kind of detail with amazing developers like the Bluepoint team. Phenomenal stuff.

[@TLW4118]

THIS is what I’ve been waiting for since the first PS5 gameplay showcase. An hour long too!? You guys are the best

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

Sony need to hurry up and try to sign a deal to make Bluepoint a first party studio IMHO. The amount of PS1, PS2 and PS3 titles that could get this kind of treatment are vast, therefore they could specifically be a remastered studio for Sony. Legacy of Kane Soul Reaver next Please.

[@TruTrae]

Honestly they don’t need to as bluepoint really don’t work for anybody else

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

@@TruTrae Insomniac said the same thing but eventually they realised it was beneficial to join Sony’s worldwide studios. I just think Bluepoint would be a perfect fit.

[@emc3150]

@@-Old-School-Gamer facts

[@Jonnygunboy]

I think Crystal dynamics still hold the rights to Legacy of Kane. Square Enix is forcing them to make crap like The Avengers game instead of focusing on tomb raider + legacy of kane :(

[@-Old-School-Gamer]

@@Jonnygunboy I still think a deal could be reached. At least I hope it could.

[@crash1998100]

Wow, It's super impressive that they're actually running the original code! You might think it would be more impressive to write everything from the ground up but running the game in 2 seperate layers and being able to use code 2 generations old is unbelievable.

[@s3rutob1]

This is insane...the destructables and remembering where they were...that's crazy

[@BossBrownsugar]

These guys are one of the most talented studio’s in the industry right now. I want them to remake all my favourite classics. Can you imagine a Knights of the Old Republic remake or Mass Effect? The BioWare of today couldn’t do those games justice.

[@nachikahn4923]

I NEED that kotor remake lol

[@omarsabir1210]

Downhill domination remake please! I'd pay a 100 dollars for that

[@adnanalam931]

They're reportedly doing metal gear solid next, a second team is already on it and I guess these guys will join that team now

[@TheMichaelRN]

Finally someone explained it, PS5 SSD main purpose is ultra fast big data streaming, instant loading and unloading of game assets as your character turns or moves; it can fill the 16gb of ram for the next 1 second of gameplay thanks to Kraken decompression which can decompress up to 22gb of data per second. That's why Cerny said details and level design would see the most significant jump. Rift apart can load and unload worlds in under 3 seconds. Demon's souls is just a taste, they are not even utilizing the geometry engine yet, upcoming PS first party titles will be nuts.

[@kraenk12]

People with a clue like NXGamer or The Cerno have said this for months and months but it seems many don’t seem to understand the scope of that advancement on display here.

[@richr161]

​@@kraenk12 I don't see how that is feasible though. The problem is the ssd, while blazing fast doesn't remotely compare to the bandwidth of the vram's 448/gb's transfer rate. There is no feasible way to stream textures of an ssd or even act like secondary vram. There is no way to load and unload assets in an "instant". It seems like its more of a faster way of preloading and streaming data, not a secondary vram as they're implying.

[@richr161]

I don't see how that is feasible though. The problem is the ssd, while blazing fast doesn't remotely compare to the bandwidth of the vram's 448/gb's transfer rate. There is no feasible way to stream textures of an ssd or even act like secondary vram. There is no way to load and unload assets in an "instant". It seems like its more of a faster way of preloading and streaming data, not a secondary vram as they're implying.

[@alpha6games751]

@@richr161 yes it is like having a back up or partner to the ram. One of the most important elements in game visuals is asset quality (ie. texture resolution, geometry fidelity, asset diversity, etc.). Typically, the level of detail than can be loaded into a game is limited by the available memory in the RAM. Essentially meaning, even with the computing power to process the highest quality of visuals, the asset quality that can be loaded into a scene (or area) is still limited by the RAM size. As mentioned by Cerny, the SSD speed has been designed with the intention of enabling real time streaming of game assets in the players field of view. This 'Player FOV streaming approach' would be the most efficient way for developers to make games, as we no longer need to load the assets in an entire area, but instead, only what the player can see - allowing for the most level of detail. Now lets compare the pure streaming of data from the SSD of the PS5 against the Series X, (which has half the SSD speed) - in the context of the 'Player FOV streaming approach'. This means that double the amount of scene detail can be loaded in the same amount of time, and in theory, have double the scene detail within a players field of view. However, in reality, we still have to consider the RAM, meaning not all assets will be streamed from the SSD and therefore we can't say there will 'double the level of quality'. But what it will mean, is that developers have double the freedom when accessing data from the SSD. A developer can access more assets (or higher quality assets) without it being pre-loaded to the RAM first.

[@alpha6games751]

@@richr161 but essentially yes that what it does. It can make some assets instantly available that doesn’t even hit ram. So it’s like a secondary ram for high quality assets while the actual ram has other tasks.

[@kumrogames]

I never got to play demon souls on previous generations, but after watching this interview, I'm buying the game on ps5 just to support these awesome devs! Thanks for the great interview!

[@kristaps2010]

rkgames me too, I’m considering it now. Purely based on their effort.

[@blakecandesign9628]

I’ve been playing this title on PS5 for about 4 hours now Kris & rkgames, and I can tell you it’s worth every single penny ♥️

[@kumrogames]

@@blakecandesign9628 Awesome to hear! We are living in a golden age of gaming right now! awesome to see such quality out of these studios!

[@MattKayser]

I think I will, too.

[@-1nterruption-960]

Got my Series X yesterday. Excited for both these consoles. This is a beautiful game so thumbs up to the Sony side. Let's Go Next gen!!!!! 😃

[@albertotr1]

And the smelting continues - the Foundry is CRANKING

[@fepethepenguin8287]

Its all the somethings

[@kieranb7747]

?

[@fepethepenguin8287]

@Shaman Xeed Get Kundalinied fool. As i always tell the Profane

[@NoobFLProducer]

I remember this on the PS3 i was going to buy it but i remember me ps3 breaking and i just forgot about it when i got the ps4. So this will be my first time playing this GAME on PS5. Kind of glad i waited now :)

[@Mauwe]

Same here I’m hyped

[@mikejenkins4924]

I replayed it last year on the RPCS3 emulator. It still holds up, so am really looking forward to getting it next week. It is my favourite souls game.

[@Teqnyq]

@FLProducer Glad you forgot 😉

[@mota2028]

Currently playing it for the first time on ps3. I'm glad my ps3 still works and my brother never sold his copy of demon souls I played and beat all from software games except for this one so I thought I owe it to myself to play it and that way I'm gonna really appreciate this remake from. Blue point even more!

[@zane4575]

Demons souls has. Different vibe to the other souls game, by far my favourite

[@yousifm.1967]

We're getting a lot of amazing content from DF, very nice interview. Great game from great teams. This was so fun to watch I wish it lasted longer.

[@Igni-bu5mz]

Got the platinum not long ago; absolute perfection by Bluepoint here. Demon's Souls is a phenomenal game that plays, looks, and sounds phenomenal. Every area is insanely detailed; when you're looking below and into the distance, the immersion is kept. No cutout looking trees and memory saving poorly textured areas. Really is remarkable what they've achieved.

[@madfinntech]

9:02 Exactly! From the mouth of the developers themselves! 30 fps has never been an artistic choice, it has always been a necessary evil. I really hope we can choose this most of the time going to next-gen!

[@TheSidorak12]

might be worth getting your ears cleaned because he did not say that xD

[@MarkHogan994]

Lmao literally no one has ever said 30 fps was an "artistic choice". When people talk about the art direction in the original Demon's Souls or any other game they aren't claiming that 30 fps was an artistic merit, lol.

[@redseagaming7832]

I still like 30 FPS maybe I'll be playing exclusively cinematic mode I don't think Demon Souls needs 60fps to be cool

[@turborat20yearsago58]

I don't know but I like 30 fps than 60 fps. 60 fps is more than enough to my vision, I feel dizzy playing 60 fps games.

[@kipa_chu]

And they advertise it will run games on 4k 120 fps. Trust me most of the games are going to be 4k 30fps. And that is sad and false advertising

[@tibelchior]

Amazing talk! This game wasn't on my list, but after seeing and hearing about the hard work, it left me very hyped to play it.

[@pukeko85]

This is the first time I am watching an hour long interview with a dev team of a videogame, and I am not even bored for a second. That speaks for the quality, nicely done!

[@alessandrob.g.4524]

John is a very patient and calm interviewer

[@karmamule]

Who needs ASMR when you have John videos? :)

[@nasimrezai2969]

It’s a masterpiece looks gorgeous

[@marinalisgara]

3 videos in a day, and 1 one of them is an hour long? DAMN!!!

[@rinkumultani6515]

they have nothing else to do except play and test games

[@suyashsngh250]

@@rinkumultani6515 Do, you seriously think it's that easy? They have to do individual pixel counts, note down questions for interview, find the techniques they are using, note down FPS in similar conditions, editing footage, scripting commentary, other things like audio and anything else which you don't get to know about. Its also extremely impressive considering they are working from home and still collaborating.

[@quoaitran1135]

Maybe 2 more by the days end

[@spenny2cents]

@@suyashsngh250 sounds easy

[@suyashsngh250]

@@spenny2cents I would love to see your channel... Its gets monotonous seeing one channel, Digital Foundry. They have a monopoly on Console BEnchmarks

[@karlwynne9446]

The love, care and attention to Detail these BluePoint bring to their projects is unparalleled. If I wasn't already a huge fan, this video would've sold me on the game.

Looking forward those embedded game tips videos in the PS5 UI: “Calm down. You can do it. You just need to roll left and right at right times. “

[@dvdsbl]

The difference between the two different modes is almost imperceptible, without a frame by frame comparison it would be even more hard to tell which is which. Long story short: It's not worth loosing 30fps to stay on cinematic mode. Performance mode IS the way to go.

[@MoutainMannPro]

Yes definitely. They said in the video it is intended for 60fps.

[@RightWingRadioShow]

wait what?

[@adev3028]

yeah i agree. already looks fantastic in 60fps.. its not worth sacrificing 60fps when it already looks good at 60

[@pgp]

This is the way.

[@cyphersuit1]

Especially if you are on a 1080p tv.

[@nubiusmaximus]

Your content is out of this world! So unique and answering my questions before i even think them! I am more than happy for your channel! Thank YOU

[@skjultkraft5063]

BLUEPOINT did an AMAZING job! Can't wait to play the game.

[@davidrv2098]

Now, a remake of The Legend of Dragoon by Bluepoint Games. Pretty Please, Sony?

[@Lanse1984]

Yes!! Or even wild arms

[@redseagaming7832]

Or legacy of Kain blood Omen blue point please Square Enix owns the rights talk to them blue point

[@juliephillips1880]

@@Lanse1984 YES. Wild Arms Remake would be lit.

[@kindabatooni9314]

Yes yes yes!!! The Legend of the Dragoon is one of my all time favorite games!

[@recklesflam1ngo968]

Two games. Chrono Cross and Parasite Eve remakes from bluepoint and I would literally die from nerdgasm

[@MrAzazel666]

Performance mode looks perfect. No need for the cinematic mode.

[@emc3150]

Facts

[@globox123456789]

Good for screenshots. lol

[@MrAzazel666]

@@globox123456789 Yeah that's true

[@lawthirtyfour2953]

Its sad they didn't have time to make cinematic mode look good with R's tracing

[@suspectedcrab]

Spoken like someone who probably doesn't own a 4K TV and doesn't know the difference between 4K and 1080p or 1440p. 30 FPS sucks, but if you can get used to it, this game like every other game will look amazing in 4K.

[@franzusgutlus54]

Finally, we found Gavin...hey Gavin, Nigel has been looking for you!

[@gavinderulo12]

Lol

[@markiep8477]

I was getting worried!

[@thehunter7422]

Lol 😆

[@kraenk12]

Lol you crack me up! 🤣

[@aaronh248]

Im glad they touched on how the streaming capability enhanced the audio capabilities so much. As he said audio doesn't need to sit in RAM anymore and can simply be streamed in in time to actually be heard so the potential for audio this generation is extraordinary even beyond the dedicated hardware for the audio. Also ..... I'm sorry but me and my wand are going to have alot of fun building giant corpse piles to burn. Ok. I may never stop doing that

[@SeanLumly]

That was so deeply satisfying. It was wonderful to get a glimpse into how this project was structured.

[@kendrit4885]

4:17 You all did an absolutely fantastic work as far as I can tell. This game is the most beautiful right now.

[@steveothehulk]

Digital foundry working overtime with all these vids keep them coming!

[@solidsnakejake185]

They have me excited for 3D audio with how much praise they gave it.

[@ShadiFagihi]

Note: The content is not strictly about Demon Souls, it’s about PlayStation hardware performance as well.

[@mauryj.3415]

This game is the only next gen looking game I've seen thus far. Looks incredible!

[@tmpm441]

You didn’t see Spiderman ?

[@nombreapellido9462]

@@tmpm441 Spidey trash

[@coolcras7]

@@nombreapellido9462 haters going to hate

[@motherofgodlol1]

@@tmpm441 Spider man looks good, but Demons Souls better.

[@mauryj.3415]

@@tmpm441 Spider-Man looks great but it doesn't look next gen, Spider-Man MM is cross gen game btw... so Demons Souls is literally the only next-generation game at the moment.

[@pgp]

You forgot about the Dual Sense John! :(

[@ThrillofTill]

I actually want to be surprised by the dual sense. You can tell most Demons Souls videos are staying away from it. Gotta leave some surprises here.

[@spezialissimo]

@@ThrillofTill or more probably is not really supported

[@ThrillofTill]

@@spezialissimo No its supported Sony even had a AD about it.

[@spezialissimo]

@@ThrillofTill oh nice, is it used for bows and such?

[@thecasualrace5650]

Imagine if they did the remake of Dark Souls. I just want that

[@MisterHeroman]

With what they did to DeS, they'd just turn it into an orange and blue Bloodborne clone.

[@Vorundor]

More of this please!! This was such a good interview, far more interesting than your usual magazine ordeal. DF, you guys rock!

[@TheNivektube]

PS5 is smashing this gen. Streaming via SSD will be even crazier!

[@simondelgado6197]

Damn, this is really the top tier guys from BluePoint, Digital Foundry is on fireee

[@SeanLumly]

As of right now, I don't think that there is a better looking game than Demon Souls PS5 on ANY platform. Oh, and it is super interesting that loading times have literally been slowed down, to allow the user to breath between cuts. Amazing, and very interesting!

[@Niallenev]

What a great opportunity that must have been for you, John. It was a very interesting watch as well, so thanks & great job.

[@blackfrancis33]

This is by far the best reason to buy a PS5 right now.

[@hugominicantv9441]

Miles morales for me

[@blackfrancis33]

@@hugominicantv9441 That looks amazing as well

[@iRandom_Thoughts]

@@hugominicantv9441 it's on ps4

[@hugominicantv9441]

@@iRandom_Thoughts im sick of the ps4, i got it since november 2013 until july 2020, its time for a change

[@iRandom_Thoughts]

@@hugominicantv9441 my point is miles morales is not the "best reason to buy ps5" since it's not exclusive to it

[@OverlordActual]

Thanks for doing these interviews with devs. I always enjoy them.

[@pondopondo1497]

Bruh, 45 minutes in I'm realizing I'm such a dork, my god. Great interview tho, John, the questions are on point.

[@birchmahogany2718]

I've been playing this game the past 2 weeks. It's so damn good. I'm nearing the end and it's been one of the best gaming experiences I've had in a long time. It's a total masterpiece.

[@hammerh2851]

YES YES YES, Digital Foundry is on fire this days.

[@adriencoudray2585]

This is amazing, it's so rare to get so much insight about how a game is made!

[@brett20000000009]

Makes me happy that we have developers now calling 30fps a slideshow. About the resolution loss, I think the increased motion clarity from running at 60fps more then makes up for it. People need to stop using screenshots to compare graphics, whats the good if those sharp screenshots look like a blurry mess when things actually move.

[@Loundsify]

Yeah it's worse for racing games more so though.

[@Tobiemoss]

24fps still looks better to me. 60fps is for mario and kids games

[@brett20000000009]

@@Tobiemoss I really hope you aren't serious.

[@kresimirmandic3807]

Saying 30 fps is a slideshow is is nothing but ignorant and false. Some players can't tell much of a difference between 30 & 60 or they don't care much about it. Someone would think your talking about 15-20 fps experience so please cut the crap. I don't care if developer said it, it's a mistake and wrong.

[@brett20000000009]

@@kresimirmandic3807 You seem to be in denial i suggest you cut the crap and accept reality.

[@AllanBitzero]

Thank you guys for making such a great-looking game

[@rosanagillespie9590]

That performance mode looks so smooth compared to the cinematic mode. Native 4k is not worth sacrificing 60 FPS in a Souls game.

[@kbthegoat824]

I'm playing cinematic. Demon souls is a slower pace game, if it was bloodborne style then yea 60 is a must.

[@hunterxhunterisbetterthanOnePi]

@@kbthegoat824 Why would you do that? There's no noticeable graphical differences, the devs said they designed the game around 60fps and one of the guys even called the game a "slideshow" and "jarring" at 30fps.

[@kbthegoat824]

@@hunterxhunterisbetterthanOnePi yea...It's possible u won't notice any difference unless you get so close and really looking to spot differences. I'll try both, if I can't easily tell a difference I'll stick to performance mode. We don't play games with magnifying glasses after all.

[@otherprisma7354]

@@hunterxhunterisbetterthanOnePi because is his choice? Let him play whichever mode he wants.

[@antoniosanichar943]

personally im playing the cinematic mode first, then the performance mode on new game +

[@devonmarr9872]

I like how the cinematic mode is almost a Trojan horse for the normal/casual gamer. It only offers 4k vs the 1440p with fantastic AA that makes them essentially impossible to tell them apart. The difference being double the frame rate at 1440p. This will really reveal the drawbacks and flaws of calling for 4k native instead of what can be accomplished with slightly lower resolution with great AA

[@devonmarr9872]

@Orion Pax I know. It is just barely noticeable even when u have them side by side. As they say in the video. This is because of the AA reconstruction making it look better than 1440p. Don’t take it from me but the devs in the video.

[@Jbayz]

@Orion Pax whats wrong with you ?

[@devonmarr9872]

@Orion Pax I didn’t when I watched it through on my 4k 60”. The prateon video that is the full nitrate without KZbin’s garbage compression. I just came here to discuss the video.

[@Rakiell]

Hey DF, just want to say that I have been watching your videos for a few years now. This is probably my favorite YT video by far. Lots of interesting information that I am not smart enough to fully understand, but you guys did an excellent job breaking it down for me. Thank you.

[@eralec]

Nice one! The dev team seems like a great bunch of people. Great work!