PlayStation 5 Teardown Analysis: Inside Sony's Next Generation Hardware Design

[@KillahMate]

By the way, interesting fact - another thing Wi-Fi 6 is used for? _Wireless VR headsets._

[@apollo24zz]

PSVR 2 Baby!

[@weaverquest]

Yeah wireless is a no brainer for PSVR 2.

[@mijvlogs9520]

I would still recommend Ethernet for this, if you have access to this option the delay will be better.

[@tytlyf]

@@mijvlogs9520 no one is talking about ethernet

[@Skylancer727]

That would be output which would take extra antenna. This is probably just a receiver. The PSVR would likely come with external antenna just for better range.

[@8eege]

I never considered that the curvey design would make it more "idiot proof" by making it harder to block intakes and exhausts.

[@souljastation5463]

@MertensCW Sony's audience can unscrew a screw though, so no matter how dumb they may be they're still smarter than Xbots.

[@kevinpadilla9578]

@@souljastation5463 you must be fun at parties

[@nickwallette6201]

It does make me cringe a little to see the Xbox Series X with its top fan. I'm absolutely expecting that to get crammed into a cubby in someone's media center, blasting hot air straight into a piece of particle board. Many of the Xbox designs have really dumb thermal layouts - particularly top-exhausting fans (360 S, One S). You'd think they would learn. OTOH, the PS4 had more thermal _issues_ than the XB1, so I guess you never know.

[@guardianali]

@@souljastation5463 Your assuming they can unscrew. Just cause Sony added a screw doesnt mean people will know how to use it. I can bet 99 percent of the people will never touch it.

[@jonteguy]

That's because you are an idiot. I jest of course.

[@Alejandro_87]

I'm just gonna put my hamster in there to increase my fan speed by 200%

[@markiep8477]

Hell yeah.

[@edubogota1]

Hell yeah!

[@diezgp]

Hell yeah!

[@AOitsAO]

Hell yeah.

[@luizmelendezgaming1615]

Heavens no!

[@seth4321]

"But it's surely just a matter of time, right?" with a wink. I see you Rich.

[@Emelenyt]

Glad to have the T-1000 keeping my CPU safe

[@montygill2835]

The PS5 pro will have the T-X to keep it cool,lol ☺️

[@tantalus5370]

As long as your not a john or Sarah conner your good

[@truknet]

As long as the T-1000 stays put. Otherwise it'll be judgement day for your ps5.

[@kashyyomfg]

Glad? It can get on the motherboard and kill it.

[@Deadcellz_]

@@tantalus5370 the fact your comment received so little appreciation shows the age of commenters here.

[@MrSkyl1ne]

An easily replaceable shell makes it ideal for special editions or even themed shells included with special edition versions of games like with the xbox 360. I liked that concept a lot.

[@tusux2949]

It's easy money for them and a lot of fun and personalization options for us. Very good idea. I remember when phones had this feature in the past, there was a huge market for that. I had like 3-4 different shells for mine, swapping them when I felt like it. Fun times.

[@marcuslightbody6933]

It'll be so easy to 3d print those side panels I think we will get to see some wild custom designs which will be really cool

[@prohdusah]

@@marcuslightbody6933 im definitely getting into the custom ps5 biz lol

[@ChrisB_517]

It kind of shoots special editions in the foot. Unless they change the central unit color, you can just snag new plates.

[@giovannibrena3913]

But that push and slide removal is kinda dumb imo, I think they could have done better.

[@e2rqey]

"Toyota like" is a very good way to describe the design

[@ArmGunnar]

What does that mean ? ^^

[@caderomine8331]

That's actually weirdly accurate lol

[@josephcook4693]

@@ArmGunnar it very simple and basic but will work well lots of easy to fit bits like a toyota car. Easy to assemble and disassemble

[@TheLee153]

Yeah cheap and nasty looking but efficient.

[@juanrubio6132]

@@ArmGunnar i think thats their way of saying, "cheap".

[@CRAgamer]

With how easy it looks to remove the side panels I really hope we get custom side panels for it. That'd be so sick.

[@Bestgameplayer10]

It only makes sense but we’ll see.

[@victorillo377]

If we can't, we will be definitely be able to easily customize them ourselves 😄

[@Refreshment01]

i always see videogame fans drooling about this feature, yet i can't see a single case when it took of in any meaningful way. And there has been many examples of detachable plates in the past.

[@victorillo377]

@@Refreshment01 so? Is that bad or something? Of course not. We are just saying it's a cool feature. Also, it's use is actually to obviously be able to clean the ps5 from the inside, so they do have a use.

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

3d printed custom designs are gonna be some of the best

[@zakixbox]

16:10 Richard: '' We genuinely don't have a ps5 in-house but it's surely just a matter of time right?'' XD Priceless

[@TheJakeSweede]

it was in a box outside the building.

[@gurjindersingh3843]

It is a matter of time till they are allowed to say that they had it the whole time.

[@dra6o0n]

Consider that digital foundry showed bias by Microsoft, it makes more sense Sony doesn't trust digital foundry.

[@dochedgehog]

@@dra6o0n they always show bias? whoever sends them stuff gets looked at more.

[@IzThatit]

@@dra6o0n trust them how? Digital Foundry is hardcore fact oriented. Microsoft got a lot of flack from them last gen when Multi-plat titles weren't performing as they should considering the One X was stronger then the Pro.

[@dan_loup]

Just to point out, there are another three SSD chips on the board, but on the other side of it. and each of those chips have two flash chips in it, hence the 12 channels cerny talked about.

[@ShinyMooTank]

Ifix it : Repairability 2/10

[@dan_loup]

@@ShinyMooTank depends on exactly one factor: will sony allow you to boot the system from the external m.2 drive? If yes, then it's not an awfully big deal.

[@spenny2cents]

Thanks for doing their job for them you deserve more 👍

[@yoltsbp]

@2WIREG probably like the ps3 where it could install the os to any new drive

[@weaverquest]

@2WIREG Sony can provide an option to transfer the OS. Just like how you could transfer the OS from flash chip of 12 GB PS3 to user installed hard drive. Though SSD longevity isn't as much of an issue as people think it will outlast most of the other components.

[@e2rqey]

It seems as though the large PCB for the PS5 and relatively spaced out components are designed in a way as to reduce the thermal density of the PCB and make it easier to cool.

[@matrix9452]

Also reduces eletromagnetic interference.

[@dacoda8220]

@FührêrFPöñê don’t be a hater all your life

[@annoyingasshole3324]

@FührêrFPöñê How Ironic the fanboying sheep, telling people not to fanboy 😭 lol

[@yoltsbp]

Also increases latency and power needed so the benefits arent as great as you would think.

[@RazorFastClaws]

@FührêrFPöñê it's not over clocked

[@francismahon2]

The David Attenborough of the games industry. Wonderful video as usual Richard.

[@romanbellic810]

Does Richard come with a bespoke heatsink or are the hand fans enough cooling?

[@dbzextreme1]

Richard bleeds liquid metal.

[@becerra5872]

HEY COUSIN, HOW ARE YOO

[@InfectedJello]

🤣

[@_archer7101]

lets get naughty >:)

[@giovannibrena3913]

I hear rumors about Richard over heating, apparently that's why they're delaying him.

[@Ziltoid_Knows]

Lots of people seem confused about the purpose of this channel, I posted this somewhere else and am more or less putting it here. You do realize that this entire channel is about comparing specs, power, graphics, consistency, etc right? That's the reason the channel exist. When DF have talked about series X and not mentioned other tech, that's with embargoed hardware. If Sony gave them a system, they would be under similar embargo and follow it, and have a reason to make more PS5 content. Once they own both consoles free and clear of embargo the only thing they will do is compare them critically in every aspect. Loading times, graphics, performance, thermals, noise, etc. If you just want to hear Sony opinions devoid of any and all other tech perspective, either pressure Sony to give them a PS5 under an embargo preventing direct competative comparisons or go to channels a different channel on KZbin. Plenty of them cranking out lots of pro Sony opinions while also talking about the tech specs. DF isn't one of them, comparisons is what you should be here to hear.

[@uncommonsense996]

Sooo quick question, since digital foundry is so biased. When they were analyzing Halo Infinite, why did they fail to mention SO many things;resolution, frame fates, textures and pop-in just to name a few? Let’s not talk about Dirt 5 also. Another question, which video did they do more analysis on Miles Morales or Halo Infinite?

[@buddyjumps]

Wondered about the relatively bad like/dislike ratio. Butthurt fans, it seems.

[@uncommonsense996]

@Beastcraft So what does being a bigger title(according to you) have anything to do with the LACK of analysis they did on Halo? The fact that a “dlc” looks way better than Halo should tell you something😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@uncommonsense996]

@@CosmeFulanito95 So omitting frame rates, bad textures, ridiculous amount of pop-in, not mentioning the absence of ray tracing, was not on purpose to you?!? For some reason people wonder why Sony is not sending them anything 😂😂

[@devilshooter126m8]

When you title a video "PlayStation 5 Teardown Analysis: Inside Sony's Next Generation Hardware Design" you don't expect a PS5 vs XsX video also I find it odd that the whole video is comparing the XsX with PS5 until it to a point PS5 does something better. Example the Wifi 6, instead of comparing it to Wifi 5 that XsX uses they then start bring up theatrically crap to down play it. this video was trash

[@s41magazine37]

He sounds exactly like Barry Norman who did the film show for decades on the BBC. His voice is soothing, calm and reassuring. He could literally be telling me I have 3 weeks to live and I'd be ok with it 👍👍✌️

[@paullucci]

5:20 - when bae’s story doesn’t add up

[@officialwattzmusic]

Imagine saying "bae".

[@paullucci]

@@officialwattzmusic wasn’t me

[@griffgames9538]

The expansion SSD location is strategically distanced from the main board heat yet within a significant airflow channel. It should be fine for slim profile SSDs with thin layer heat/shield.

[@scarletspidernz]

Looks deep enough for a low profile heatsink to be attached too

[@hectordelarocha10]

It is very, very inconvenient the location they chose. The fact that you have to open the console to add more storage is just bad design for consumers.

[@Jhakaro]

@@hectordelarocha10 it's out of the way, appears to be actively cooled, doesn't require proprietary tech and you need to open the console anyway to hoover out dust build up. It's not that big a deal unless you're a child. Literally look up a video on it when it comes out and it could take you step by step through the process. It's easy if a little unnerving at first

[@scarletspidernz]

@@hectordelarocha10 literally remove one plate and one screw, if you can't handle that then get a xbox series x

[@princegroove]

@@hectordelarocha10 No, just morons like you.

[@shooter0404]

That PS5 looks like it could crush that man

[@AnastasiaLUVSU]

Right. Shit is huge.

[@advanceddarkness3]

Gimme the shape of the Xbox X. This thing is gaudy and huge. Sony, not everyone is 15.

[@TellurdogIsayhi]

@@advanceddarkness3 i too think the xbox looks better; would’ve loved to see a white one though as it would’ve paired better with my entertainment setup.

[@zonn6469]

@@AnastasiaLUVSU or that dude is tiny lol

[@voltgaming2213]

advanceddarkness3 it looks cool and futuristic,boomer

[@thischannelhasaclevername5481]

Can't wait to see those performance graphs for the first third party comparison with PS5/SO/SX/LastGen

[@chasethechosenone8478]

Yea I can’t either since Xbox fans are saying there is gonna be a massive difference but in reality that’s not the case the series x has 15% more gpu power

[@iDropt]

@@chasethechosenone8478 its not exactly that easy. I think at the start of the gen the difference won't be as big, later down the road when devs are pushing the cpu i can see the xbox pulling ahead.

[@thelonesomedrifter5884]

@@chasethechosenone8478 Xbox will most likely have better Ray tracing. Other than that I don't think there'll be much of a difference.

[@1984rockabilly]

@@chasethechosenone8478 Dream on :-) The Microsoft console's GPU has 52 compute units - PS5: 36. This suggests the Series X may have 1.5x the graphics power. And more units are clear faster compared to higher clock rates. DF proved it. Also the raytracing performance is much better on Series X. Not to forget: the Series X CPU is also faster plus PS5 has only 10 TF with boost mode. By default the console has only 9 TF … So please wake up!

[@chasethechosenone8478]

@Joan Amaya and have we seen that? No are we going to? No. Do games look better on PS5 yes. How much better is the cpu on series x 1-2% which is nothing they are pretty much the same the ps5 is 3.5 with smt and series x is 3.6 with smt and no you can’t get a big gap difference with 15% more gpu power the real gap is the 3x throughput performance and 3x the speed allowing high quality assets and textures having bigger open worlds and bigger open worlds and load times are a million times faster snd the ps5 runs cooler so it’s more efficient faster and better games I’ll stick with ps5

[@Jabaltaya]

It's like you listen to a fairytale being read by a great storyteller

[@danielpedraza6455]

Like the Fable trailer

[@BrownOpsLeak]

@@danielpedraza6455 not!

[@Shadowdark1994]

Sweet, was wondering what you had to say about this!

[@Exoamylase]

No problem.

[@Shadowdark1994]

@@Exoamylase now hang on a second ;)

[@rinkumultani6515]

Fk DF they are shills

[@madhavarora2625]

@@rinkumultani6515 you're blaming them because Sony didn't send them a unit for preview?

[@SynysterSephiroth]

Not really wrong tho, they are moving shifty lately.

[@RonaldMoralesM]

It's amazing how people stand up for brands, how they feel so hurt, when they attack a company that in the end only sees them as money

[@MoltenArmour]

No. Microsoft and Sony love us more than our own parents!!

[@Vislav]

I let the games decide. That's why i stick to Sony.

[@lgmtk]

For real, especially when you can just buy both and enjoy best of both worlds...

[@mrn234]

@@Vislav I stick to Sony cause 1. All my Friends play on the PS 2. In these days you wont need a Xbox cause everything will come to PC 3. idk i also like my switch

[@joseluisfloresestrada3280]

@@mrn234 yeah, pc has been the best option but people who can't afford it they can buy a xsx, or even a xss if they don't have a 4k tv.

[@86lanzo]

Really put the engineering to these consoles into context...good job by both Xbox and Sony...looking forward to see Whoes solutions are more effective... DF...you guys are about to have a very Busy 3 months

[@DualPurpose]

Remember what I said? Devs are now saying people are going 5o very surprised by the PS5. And even DF (shillers) mentioned that raytracing on SX wouldn't be better or rather inferred that the assumption is potentially not true. I have spoken extensive about these graphics pipeline efficiencies in PS5 and Inefficiencies in SX. I have been on the money all the way. Maybe later this month well get that Smartshift advantage, GPU cache scrubbers, cache advancements, i/o complex. This is why you'll end up with far better performance on PS5 than SX. Spiderman is 4k 60 with SSR on PS5 and compared to any title ON SX like Halo INFINITE at 4k 60(no RT), AC Vahala 4k 60, dirt 5 4k 60....it blows them out the water. Vast visual advancements over SX.

[@mosescharles]

I cant wait till DF get their hands on a physical copy of the PS5 so they can do their own proper breakdown

[@chefriz2511]

@@DualPurpose Big Facts. Sony has shown Next Gen Games running on PS5. Lets see The Series X with their Next Gen games running...

[@kerninjathefrog6569]

@@DualPurpose ah you're back. I remember your comment on how months back you were saying how MS engineers weren't good enough to come up with a smaller console with a traditional form factor and sony engineers were going to come up with a smaller design. Ironic since the ps5 is so big you need a tugboat to bring it in your house. Keep licking those sony boots

[@kerninjathefrog6569]

@@DualPurpose where are those 13 tflops???

[@rare6499]

I digress a bit but every time I see a diagram of a CPU like that it blows my mind. It’s insane how we’ve managed to figure out a way to create a mini brain made of billions of transistors at such a scale.

[@GamingMyWholeLife]

I'm down with the large size. My PC was overheating and all I did was get a nice large tower for it, fixed the problem straight away. No heating issues and no longer hear the fans

[@ls200076]

Should've have used water cooling and Be Quiet products

[@Skylancer727]

I just use an AIO. My 9900K is set to 5GHz locked and never passes 75 degrees.

[@Skylancer727]

@2WIREG the Xbox is more powerful but likely not by much. It has about 40% more cores but the PS5 has about 30% higher clocks and cores don't tend to scale performance as linearly as clock speed. I expect both to be nearly identical with both basically having the same game settings. Perhaps very rarely the Xbox will have better performance but just barely. They are fairly close. Though I expect the Xbox to run ray tracing better as RT cores are related to core count on the GPU and it does have nearly double the GPU cores.

[@lordofthegerbils]

@@Skylancer727 Richard couldn't have said it better himself

[@1flash3571]

@@ls200076 much more expensive and not a reliable solution. Getting a larger case is the cheapest solution, which it was.

[@chrisbrown113096]

I like when companies make funny marketing jabs at each other , I enjoy this one as well with the stand , but I prefer the ps5 method of the stand. I don’t like how the series X looks with the stand sideways

[@narukami6364]

Yeah, I think it’s because of the Xbox logo, it just looks like it’s wrong. They’ve had successful jabs at Sony before but the one about the stand was pretty off. Firstly, the overall teardown was pretty great and the PS5’s stand is clearly not as basic and ‘cheap’ as people expected it to be, I think that jab was just a failed joke on their part.

[@chrisbrown113096]

@@narukami6364 yeah I completely agree with that , that was my exact thought when I saw that

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

@@narukami6364 Yeah. Imo both consoles look far better vertical. Horizontal seems like a consumer decision

[@KayJay01]

bro why did you hit rihanna that's not cool

[@chrisbrown113096]

@Marlon Te Vrede then why would they post it being able to put sideways ?

[@ThisAlbino]

"I'm a bit curious about this bae" that's a bit familiar Rich, we barely know each other.

[@schumachersbatman5094]

Richard "Curious Bae" Leadbetter.

[@danielpedraza6455]

5:18

[@FF-ch9nr]

Mfw rich calls me bae 😳

[@BrownOpsLeak]

Richard is a good, faithful man

[@TerryMartinART]

What I learned from watching this video is simple, "Digital Foundry is proudly sponsored by Omen's Wireless Mouse, Keyboard and Headsets" :)

[@nico5179]

And Microsoft

[@laserbeam3836]

@@nico5179 stay salty

[@bladebutowski4446]

@@nico5179 SOMEONE'S SAD

[@TerryMartinART]

@@nico5179 lol

[@DON666]

SponsorBlock did - as always - a good job for me. ;)

[@EyesOfByes]

4:36 I changed to Kryonaut thermal paste on my nephews PS4, and holy shit what a difference it made! From jetengine to silent! Better than expected

[@aidedflyer173]

Now, if the ps4 is silent, it worries me.

[@dzikraaksa527]

actually, you can silent ps4 only by cleaning it. especially in the heatsink area. do not need to change the paste

[@DEVILTAZ35]

@@dzikraaksa527 Or just get the Spiderman ps4 pro which is pretty quiet actually. Not as quiet as Xbox one x but not bad all the same.

[@deviouslaw]

@@dzikraaksa527 you do need to change the paste sometimes. My ps4 was quite loud until I replaced the dried stock paste with fresh noctua paste. now it's as quiet or quieter than new.

[@VanTesla]

@@DEVILTAZ35 my Spiderman PS4 Pro got the short end of the manufacturing machine. The fan was loose so I had to fix it. No big deal. The thermal paste was non existent... Annoying, but I had some on me. Prior to fixing it was loud af...

[@almighty151986]

The NvME expansion bay on PS5 is actively cooled, you can see what looks like an air duct 5:50 on the video.

[@kryptzon]

Good eye - it does look like an air duct from this point of view. The other side at 5:26 is just the port end.

[@one_up907]

That's the first thing I looked for when I first saw teardown.

[@BCBtheBeastlyBeast]

Comments like these make me take DF less and less seriously as time goes by. They really don't take time with certain things, and it shows.

[@bushkilla7348]

@@BCBtheBeastlyBeast who does better videos than DF? NX gamer is also good. No-one touches these guys IMHO

[@madatyoutoob]

@@bushkilla7348 Digital Fuctards are paid off by Micro! Period!

[@scorpizy]

I feel like this is the elegante explanation of explaining the hardware. I can see you drinking tea and hearing classical music when giving the explanation

[@revl8n817]

Prediction - Wi-Fi 6 is for next gen Sony VR.

[@MrVelociraptor75]

@Martin Schmidt Are you being obtuse or do you just not understand technical things? There is a VAST amount of the PS5's features based heavily around VR and the experience as a whole. In fact, I wouldn't be stretching much to suggest, that the system as a whole was designed around VR from the very outset. (it also wouldn't be a stretch to guess that upon release, the PSVR2 might even beat out most/all of the current PC VR headsets in features and experiences - with PC catching back up reasonably quickly thereafter) Wifi 6 is perfectly poised to work for wireless VR. The Oculus Quest 2 has this feature and can use it as a PC tether (instead of the cable) to quite good success. Having Bluetooth 5.1 should help immensely too, as, if I'm not mistaken, it can be used with quite high accuracy to track positions and motion. So, a mix of both in tandem will be very likely

[@MonSteh]

@@MrVelociraptor75 This very much. Sony is very bullish on VR. Cant wait to be blown away with an affordable PSVR2. Itll probably feature Foveated Rendering and Finger tracking - but will it feature Varifocal Actuation? My baseless guestimate says, we'll know Q4 2021 - Q1 2022

[@hermeticdragon2643]

@@MrVelociraptor75 latency has always been a huge issue with vr so sony's super fast ssd would benefit psvr im sure

[@REAL6]

I just want to know about the next handheld they will release in the next few years. Just beef up the Vita.

[@hermeticdragon2643]

@@REAL6 not going to happen, smartphones have taken over that market

[@frankjoz2803]

As a practical gamer . I always connect my consoles and PC to ethernet.

[@TerraWare]

Yeah me too. even though my wifi is really good. If the device is stationary why not.

[@marcovalk7845]

It's probably for the PSVR2 which is rumored to use WiFi

[@Skylancer727]

@@marcovalk7845 That would be from the console via an antenna not your router. It would add latency if it beamed it to your router instead of directly to it.

[@Skylancer727]

I use ethernet from MoCA as my setup is about 200ft from my router. Still get about 300-500mbps up and down out of the gigabyte I pay for.

[@MapleYum]

I have in the past, but new room layout-and destructive toddlers-means I will run the PS5 wireless this gen. It will sit up beside the tv, safe and sound.

[@lordofthegerbils]

Just to say, it's pleasing to see both MS and Sony put together very well engineered consoles with excellent build quality. Couple that what looks like - at least at this moment in time - a really fantastic amount of performance for the £499 price point. I still have concerns, primarily around software, which means I won't be buying at this stage. Covid makes the market tricky as well. But it can't be denied. Both hardware manufacturers have done a tip-top job.

[@defeqel6537]

Yeah. It's obvious both had slightly different priorities regarding the capabilities as well as the physical design of the consoles, but both seem to have done a stellar job.

[@regfenster]

I do not see the well engineered regarding Sony's effort. From my point of view Sony got wind what Microsoft were up to, then began a massive overclock to close the gap, followed by variable clock speeds across the soc's GPU and CPU within a thermal budget. Even with that massive case and hamster wheel of a fan the variable clocks are not going away. I'd like to know when a game is heavily CPU bound what is the TF drop on the GPU side going to be? Sony are usually 1st to shout and hype there new consoles, the silence here is deafening.

[@defeqel6537]

@@regfenster They won't just change specs last minute, e.g. the work on the cooling solution would have started around 3 or more years ago. Similarly, AFAIK, the variable clocks aren't just a flip of a switch, but require dedicated silicon (and at that point, why not just increase the CU count?).

[@bossmicky9256]

Ehhh, Sony did good, but when compared to what xbox did it doesn’t look as good, not to say that they did bad or anything, just when compared, you know? But yah, I’d assume software from both ends will have been thought of highly, Software is always better than Hardware, its like having an expert shoot a trash gun vs a trash shooter shooting a good gun, the expert shooter will always gun him down, I’m excited for next gen to say the least

[@lordofthegerbils]

@@regfenster good point, yes. With my tin-foil hat on, it looks like Sony execs ordered a last-minute overclock, and we have this janky power splitting solution to fix the thermals. Having said all that, I like what they've done from that basis. Liquid metal cooling, and dat heat sink. The SSD is impressive, but part of me wonders whether Sony went a bit overboard here. Time will tell whether it makes an especially big difference.

[@Skylancer727]

My worry with PS5 is the SSD is soldered straight to the board and SSDs have a set read and write life. It means there will be a point the console is just dead and will no longer work as the SSD stops working and can't be replaced. That may be in 8 years but if the storage is only 600GB, transfering games between hard drives may run it's life shorter.

[@glenmcl]

Yup , about 5 to 7 years.

[@Shanghaimartin]

I'm wondering if the spare m.2 slot/drive can be used for the OS in case of catastrophic failure of the main drive. Not ideal, but I'd like to think Sony thought of this and it's an option.

[@divanshu5039]

dont worry its more then enough reads for 10-15 years for avg users

[@FranklinCotes]

30th years lifetime transfer 50 gb everyday

[@jzilla1234]

@@glenmcl so same for the Xbox yeah?

[@wetw0rk14180]

Thanks for telling me all about the Xbox Series X.

[@anubrakahn2970]

Guys, I "hit the bell" after every video, per your instructions. However, I only seem to be notified every other video. What gives?

[@julianezequielpdg7347]

You have to hit the bell just once, that will send you notifications for every video. If you hit it another time, it will turn off notifications

[@YourPalHDee]

@@julianezequielpdg7347 woooosh

[@TheAbvsyork]

Lol that’s pretty good

[@anubrakahn2970]

@@TheAbvsyork 👍😄👍

[@danielfumino6884]

😂

[@godzillagorilla986]

Gotta LOVE a fresh cup of Digital Foundry in the morning ☕️☀️❤️

[@peterm.4355]

Digitea Foundry

[@aktrevor]

Morning ? It's night time here 😴🌛

[@merritt2014]

It's actually really exciting to see them using liquid metal. It'll be interesting to see if their innovations in making this a viable long-term thermal application potentially make its way over to the PC space where it's generally just used for quick extreme overclocking then removed shortly thereafter.

[@funbrute31]

Some ASUS laptops use It iirc. But durability is a problem

[@erickmarquez506]

Yeah the trouble with console user it's like apple users, that last gen Console is basically 2 years PC performance and devolepments, to a Pc user a faster SSD with an Ok GPU is not worthy of hype if the same price competitor offers a better GPU with an Ok SSD for the same price that how HP stole some share to Asus with gaming laptops...

[@TristanTheVRGamecat]

So what's the issue with liquid metal is it just leakage? If so if it's correctly sealed shouldn't be an issue right ?

[@XGD5layer]

@@erickmarquez506 that's undoubtedly true, but mainly because games are designed to run on as many systems as possible, which means games are designed with HDDs in mind. Check LTTs video where the staff is supposed to know which system is the SSD pci gen 3, which the SSD pci gen 4, and which is the HDD.

[@icaruswindrune7116]

@@TristanTheVRGamecat Leakage is just one problem. The others would be degradation of materials and the LM itself and the conductive nature. Most LM have a life span of 1 - 2 years, but if Sony designed their's just right it could last longer. With degradation, it could degrade parts of the heatsink (although the part that touched the LM seems to be silver, so that was minimized). As for conductive nature, the heatsink just cannot have any electricity run through it or the LM leak out, otherwise the system could end up dead.

[@naschylobo]

DF biased? How ironic. I remember during the PS3/360 days and earlier PS4/XB1 days, everyone accused them of being Sony biased. How quickly everyone forgets. Maybe they’re just telling it like it is?

[@westinbye]

I know, so wild.

[@unrelatedpopcornfire9823]

No, df gets accused of bias all the time because they praise one thing over the other in comparison videos. Here, he has a completely different mood and attitude.

[@kraenk12]

You do realise DF ARE basically sponsored by MS in order to promote their consoles exclusively, right?

[@naschylobo]

@@unrelatedpopcornfire9823 the whole point of DF is to compare things, scrutinise the details etc. That process will always result in praise for the superior product/version/iteration. It seems from everything we know (specs, engineering - the nuts and bolts) Xbox is ahead somewhat. That reflects in their commentary. Again, that’s the whole point of DF. The juvenile conspiracy stuff about bias and payoffs is predictable and sad. Like I said, this has happened before, but last time it was Xbox fanboys crying shill.

[@naschylobo]

@@kraenk12 ‘basically sponsored’ how? What does that even mean?

[@cardassa]

Disclaimer: I use PCs but wouldn't consider myself beyond barely scratching the barrier of a PC enthusiast. But I have burnt down enough PCs to the ground have managed to bring it back to life hurriedly with nothing but shoestring and bubble gum to warrant some guesses/opinions The fan in particular, is the type mainly seen in dedicated cooling machines like ACs and car radiators. The blades on both sides are capable of pushing out massive amounts of air outside from both directions at once. Its essentially doing the work of two sperate fans cooling off a dissected chamber. The SSD, is purely a guess but I imagine the soldered pieces act as a primary (unless the bios allows you to change priorities via settings) so it does all the heavy lifting. The expansion slots mainly just transfer data to the primary as needed. But since we are talking massive speeds of data, heat is definitely an issue. I am guess Sony is relying on its fan to do the job of removing excess heat. I have to imagine the PS5 is design in such a way that there are enough outlets and inlets of holes throughout the system so that the airflow can reach all parts of the system without being obstructed. The liquid metal cooling solution is likely the most dazzling factor. It being able to transfer heat efficiently from the chip will definitely help with games at the start of the generation. It will be interesting to see how this entire design holds up at the latter end of the gen when games surpass the hardware requirements and get more demanding to run. For now though, its likely a little bit of an overkill with that huge heatsink for the games that will be coming out for the first few years.

[@njdevil6629]

The general primary concern I've heard is how will the liquid metal hold up as if even a little leaks out or spreads the console is dead.

[@alexatkin]

If you've ever watched developer interviews you would know that your explanation makes no sense. End of gen games do not "technically" push the hardware any harder than launch titles (especially console exclusives). The difference is they are more highly optimised so can get better performance from the same hardware by not wasting that power doing things inefficiently.

[@codethis2875]

It seems like you don't know much about the PS5. You will be able to play games directly from your m.2 SSD. PS5 will be running in constant boost mode at a fixed power level. that means that PS5 will attempt to boost as high as it can given the provided power(and what they call "model SOC") that means that PS5 will consume the same amount of power(roughly) for each game, regardless of the engine specifics.

[@codethis2875]

@Y Marina wrong. XBOX has chosen fixed CLOCKS. not power.

[@RandomGamingMoments925]

@Y Marina Teraflops are a very poor measure of comparing GPUs. It's shows the capabilities of the ALU, that's it. There's a lot more to a GPU afaik like TMUs, Gigatexels, TROPs, bandwidth etc. Also, for the record, no it's not a 9.2 TF machine, it will around 10 all the time. The downclocking is for effeciency and cooling reasons. A few % downclocking is enough to significantly reduces thermals, from what I heard. It's a different system to how smartphones and PCs do it. Not to mention, the PS5 has a faster GPU clock speed, which will have an impact on rasterisation.

[@chrisbrinkley4688]

5:18 That's rather over familiar, Richard. I'd prefer it if you called me sir at this point in our relationship.

[@corey_massey]

Still not sure why digital foundry insist on referring to the PS5 GPU as operating under a "boost clock" as the Eurogamer article released after the PS5 spec reveal indicates that the GPU and CPU operate at optimal frequencies when supplied with full power and are throttled to match work load. While this difference may seem minuscule on the surface the design implications are actually quite telling. This power shifting model, as opposed to a constant power supply model used in conventional console manufacturing, means that the PS5 can be extremely power efficient while offering optimal performance based on workload, rather than the other way around. This allows the PS5 GPU and CPU to only work as hard as needed for a particular game or even at a micro level within a given scene. This "work smarter, not harder" approach has some very interesting ramifications in games because the higher clocks allow the PS5 GPU and CPU to punch well above thier weight class while at the same time managing power consumption. It will not be suprising to anyone who has compared faster clocked hardware to more compute heavy hardware that the end result will be that both approaches lead widely to the same performance metrics. It will be interesting to see how PS5 unorthodox power system stacks up to the conventional wisdom, but it will not be suprising if the expectations for power difference are nothing more than people arguing over which two roads will lead to the same destination.

[@MegaLPlover]

"maybe I'm getting a bit obsessed by heat dissipation here" idk why but that made me laugh

[@WH250398]

That coolingsystem is so cool

[@johnwest6977]

No pun intended

[@blues05]

@@johnwest6977 he clearly intend tho 🤔

[@giovannibrena3913]

As I saw it I got chills

[@Rapunzel879]

Yeah if huge and cheap is cool

[@dacoda8220]

@@Rapunzel879 you mad the Xbox is cooking?

[@OptimumSlinky]

Opening your console DOES NOT void your warranty (at least not in the USA or EU) unless Sony or Microsoft can PROVE that your disassembly caused damage to components. This perception/myth that you void your warranty and the stickers that say so are literally illegal and anti-consumer.

[@DJ_Dopamine]

Correct. Those stickers count for nothing in the EU.

[@xmaverickhunterkx]

He is in Japan. It might be true there. IIRC in the US they are valid as long as the maker can prove that you broke something after opening it beyond those boundaries.

[@Prodzick]

If you remove these stickers they could charge you for repare if they find even a tiny dent inside. The wording of these sticker are now more specific. Most people would only remove the pannel to add an ssd or vaccum the dust.

[@instacomclub7099]

If you tear down those sticker you are done

[@meowmeow2759]

>implying every single viewer of this video is American Dude its just a blanket term. Chill out

[@aldoelektrika]

Do a shot for every "bespoke"

[@FranciscoRodriguez-fr3uc]

im dead now 😵

[@codycast]

I was thinking the same. It’s such a British thing I don’t think I’ve ever used or heard that word used in real life conversations

[@joesterling4299]

@@codycast I'm still trying to define the word organically, by listening to its use on this channel. I never hear it anywhere else. I think I'm close to grokking it now. No, I don't want spoilers, or to look it up. It's more fun this way.

[@stephenahern]

@@joesterling4299 I'd like to hear what you've "grokked" so far

[@96mryomama]

Why is everyone using "bespoke" instead of "proprietary" now? It's like how people started saying "applications" instead of "programs"

[@JerryFlowersIII]

Wifi6 could also be used for the future PSVR2 for wireless play, correct?

[@tzuyd]

It's the primary reason for having it I would say.

[@eliadbu]

Maybe if you compress the image. For that use having 802.11 ad would make more sense with theoratical higher transfer speeds thanks to its mmW frequencies, which one of the few useful application due the requirement of having line of sight for it to work.

[@tzuyd]

Of course you have to compress the image. The throughput needed for a raw 120 fps signal at 1440p-4k would be insane.

[@payless51980]

Sounds like a useless version. Like he stated you'd have to have a not produced now router and modem to utilize the feature.

[@tzuyd]

He said you need hardware that supports Wifi 6 to use Wifi 6. This hardware exists, just that it doesn't have widespread adoption yet. Peripherals made for a device that uses Wifi 6 will obviously support Wifi 6.

[@FylianGray]

Thank you for the breakdown. Can't wait for y'all to really get your hands on, still lots of questions.

[@rajhiemdanielspublic2290]

Not much breakdown going on it was mostly a comparison vid to how much he liked Xbox approach more

[@spenny2cents]

He failed to mention so many cool features You’d be better off watching the original video

[@kw6306]

@@rajhiemdanielspublic2290 yeah the xbox approach is better lol

[@annoyingasshole3324]

@@kw6306 Yeah let's cram everything into a box and hope the fan can consistently keep everything cooler 😂.

[@MegaRayland]

NX Gamer placed an interesting emphasis on the Bluetooth and WiFi antenna choices for a potential wireless PSVR 2. WiFi 6 for data transfer and this iteration of Bluetooth for positional tracking.

[@jinkazama7587]

You won't get that here...

[@Papoide]

@@jinkazama7587 That what?

[@jasondefaoite7732]

He's completely wrong on the Wi-Fi 6 speeds though. He mentions 9Gbps. Max for PS5 is 1.2Gbps.

[@mackstertube]

What I find insane after Sonys video were people comparing about the stand. Like one screw was complicated & you need a tool kit. Those people need to grow up. They had better not ever but any flat pack furniture. Ikea will be out of the question for them. I build boats so this is unfathomable to me that one screw was a half or complicated for someone. I mean they even built a cute compartment. You bring up an excellent point. In the past companies have charged $50 in my country for a stand. Also they click on with physic tabs so getting them off can be a real hassle & you run the risk of breaking plastic tabs off. Especially the older the plastic is. It just didn't seem to matter what anyone does. It can be an improvement over last gen or save them money and they either forget or want something to complain about because that just what people have made into a sport nowadays or they have short memories.

[@luuketaylor]

I love RIch's thanks at the end of the video for making it that far "if indeed you did" Indeed I always do, Rich!

[@fernandoflores7375]

Hahaha the salt is strong in this one

[@CroneRaven1810]

The comment section or Digital foundry?

[@jerryharrison-ford1120]

@@CroneRaven1810 The Playstation Fanboy's side of the comment's section obviously 🙃

[@fernandoflores7375]

Digital Foundry of course, you can easily tell because Sony didnt give them anything the video is just like a commentary of the original teardown, i feel there is no real analysis over what PS5 did over microsoft. Microsoft even flew Digital Foundry over to their facilities. I wish Digital Foundry went deeper over the PS5 teardown and didnt show their BIAS so much. And i like that Sony isnt kissing anybody's ass.

[@CroneRaven1810]

@@jerryharrison-ford1120 I haven't seen any radical fanboy comments yet. Maybe already drowning, but I'm not willing to scroll down that much xD

[@Mik4ael]

@@fernandoflores7375 Well what they can do more without having the console ? Nothing.

[@romelu6871]

This could be titled, "PS5 Teardown Roast" 😂😂

[@gabor-toth]

This is a bespoke DF video. Jokes aside, interesting design but I still prefer the smaller size and practicality of the Series X.

[@domzzcardzz7985]

True but ps5 is faster and has better games for me

[@ibrahimsalah2962]

The better games narrative will be slightly weaker in due time once Xbox studios starts releasing their new IPs IMO

[@kenshigo3833]

@@ibrahimsalah2962 Not only did Microsoft not release any good games so far with their studios, they even cancelled a lot, Sony ALSO has studios and some new stuiods as well. So no, it most likely won´t be weaker..

[@ibrahimsalah2962]

@@kenshigo3833 I should have clarified that this only in due time. Games like Avowed, Initiative's game, and Zenimax new IPs could make a difference it will just take time.

[@kenshigo3833]

@@ibrahimsalah2962 yeah, could...just like scalebound or fable could have...or sea of thieves, state of decay or crackdown could have...

[@greenmedic88]

We are in Bizarro World when the Japanese solution is the sledgehammer, go big or go home solution to thermal regulation on a PCB the size of a baseball diamond, and the American solution is the jigsaw internals, compact but big power utility-like industrial design.

[@DON666]

Yes. The internal design of the PlayStation 5 looks old-fashioned and cheap compared to Series X.

[@deviouslaw]

@@nickgovier Xbox took care of people with that situation. No questions asked iirc.. mine was secondhand and I still received a prepaid "coffin" and got my xbox fixed in a timely manner. It still works. Gotta appreciate when brands stand behind their product.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

@@nickgovier I was a PS user since PS1 and my friend Xbox, he chewed through 3 360s in the span of a few years due to RROD while my PS3 is still working to this day, altough the performance has always been better on xbox as far as I can remember (and xbox users get to play Banjo Kazooie in 60fps with analog feelsbadman)

[@JellyRoger_XIII]

Those things are interesting even for PC only users like i'am. Also i'm not for the pathetic and unfair war PC vs Consoles. But for sure a sort of competition will only have benefits to both worlds. Specifics and technical stuffs inside those new generation consoles, with some 'leaked' performances and benchs, are a blessing just like the newNvidia 3k serie and possibly the Zen3, and i always had Intel, ready for the switch this year. Thank you Digital Foundry ! Always classy vlogs and cool stuff from you, guys. +1mil. well deserved !

[@JellyRoger_XIII]

@7MGTESupraTurboA well...i didnt knew all those back-stories, and as you said all those things slowed in some way the tech-advance of our recent generations of consoles and PC. But i'm also not surprised either to be honest. In my opinion all those big tech/softw leaders keep always in mind to release things drop by drop. It's a matter of money, as u stated in the beginning of your reply. So yes, i agree with ya. But let's be honest....it's fair. I fully understand their pov about the competition while keeping things 'on the rails' about the so called new generations. Greedy....but fair to me xD

[@coffee7180]

@7MGTESupraTurboA Dx 10 powered Xbox 360 and PS3???? Just stop please.

[@campkira]

apu are great since the whole thing is on single board but they need to be big board... xbox do it better however.... it alway end with exclusive... telling me of this 10 years.. is something me in early 2000's would not belive it is possible since...the heat and power is not possible... since APU don't exist at the time...

[@fcukugimmeausername]

@7MGTESupraTurboA Lol, so DX10 on a Linux based Ps3? okay.

[@dreamcastfan]

@7MGTESupraTurboA I’m sorry but what greedy tactics are you talking about? And in what way did the 360’s hardware derail potential hardware in the PS3? And it certainly had no effect on Nintendo who were still iterating on their GameCube architecture with the Wii and Wii U. The Xenos GPU was ahead of its time, it had a unified shader architecture before even PC graphics cards had it. The 360’s unified 512MB of memory model was also a better design than the PS3’s ungainly split of 256MB main memory and 256MB GPU memory. The 10MB of eDRAM even allowed for virtually free anti-aliasing and transparencies. The 360 Xenon CPU and the Cell CPU were both developed by the same team at IBM so it’s not clear to me how Microsoft were holding things back there either. The more basic Nvidia card slapped into the PS3 after the Cell’s SPEs failed to perform as a GPU would be a better candidate for holding things back.

[@xxczerxx]

You just know Rich wasn't clothed while watching this.

[@elderbreed5858]

Honest breakdown of the footage we have seen and credible viewpoints from a well informed analysis. I believe Playstation has made an effort to indulge the fans of Japan by having their lead engineer of the console show us what we have all wanted to see, and by allowing Japanese hands on experiences before others. Sony has a lot of fan base and true to heart loyalty with Japan and I respect them for truly giving them first experiences with what very well could be the most consumer in mind and developer input console they have released to date. I look forward to Digital Foundry's in house breakdown and firsthand analysis, but I have seen everything I have needed to see from the main and other youtubers opinions and thoughts on the subject. Great video and I look forward to the next one.

[@Naryoril]

About the "allowing Japanese hands on experiences before others": Sony probably wants to do the hands on stuff at their HQ, but Japan banned non-Japanese citizens from traveling to Japan for months, not even people with a permanent residence in Japan could get back into the country if they left it unless they had a Japanese passport. Only a few weeks ago they lifted that restriction somewhat, and afaik only people from Singapore and South Korea are allowed into the country now, and only for business (non-Japanese with a permanent residence can return too now). So if they wanted to show the PS5 off at their HQ, there simply is no way to do so to foreigners, unless they are from Singapore or South Korea.

[@richr161]

Which is Odd, since Sony at least the division that deals with Playstation is more of an American Company than Japanese.

[@titusvarughese5071]

I would pay good money for Toyota gaming consoles lol. Love my Toyota's.

[@johngoe420]

They would be very reliable

[@romanlupasco7531]

@@johngoe420 and won't overheat!!!

[@LN997-i8x]

Toyota is not the company that comes to mind when I think of when exciting products.

[@titusvarughese5071]

@@LN997-i8x most people do not realize, but Toyota has massive racing development for many decades. Lexus LFA is good example of racing pedigree.

[@Marco4Strings]

Of course you’ll pay xD

[@UKgamer87]

4:35 that isn't true you literally just take the top panel off and can see the cooler which you then used compressed air to clean....No screws and no voided warranty.

[@vintatsh]

Not with the launch PS4

[@SagaMediaNet]

Finally, been looking forward to this :)

[@jordanjoestar8839]

@4:08 More so than dust, it is faulty thermal paste. It ends up being the texture of gum over time. Doing close to nothing to transfer heat from the CPU. How do I know? I've fixed 4 of them. After using the Arctic Silver Thermal Paste from my gaming PC, my PS4 was dead silent even running games like RDR2 and other demanding titles. Hopefully they noticed the issue and apparently addressed it with Liquid Metal interfacing rather than paste.

[@markiep8477]

I have replaced the thermal paste on a PS4 (while I replaced the fan) and can attest that it makes a difference.

[@goncaloduarte4683]

With liquid metal, that beefy cooler and those holes to remove dust, I can see the PS5 as a console that will be near silent for the entirety of its life cycle.

[@zingbanana]

i did the same with an xbox one x. was abnormally clean on the inside even after 2 years of daily use in dusty environments. thermal paste was awful and dry. put some kryonaut inside, even went through a lot of pain and money to change the thermal pads, and the noise? exactly the same. hopefully this gen will do a lot better for both consoles in this regard.

[@Alleyesonme-vy4jq]

Microsoft: you will only need a 4ft x4ft table if you take our xsx apart Sony: you will need a 10ft x 5ft table for us 🤣

[@Rhythmattica]

yeh.. Thats because really that table that 4x4 has a brute force PC underneath , operated by a brother of Craig.

[@Iron-Soul]

Looking at the PS5 disassembled reminds me of parts for a Gundam model.

[@IxChipmunk101xI]

@@Rhythmattica You're going to be really sad this entire gen if you don't think the Series X is the most powerful console.

[@Rhythmattica]

@@IxChipmunk101xI What? Most powerful console with no exclusives that I can even play on my Mac Pro runniung Windows.. And the most powerful console? Like thats an issue that has been debunked multiple times that this what makes a gaming machine... LOL.. Games make a Gaming Console... Not Multi plats available even on phones via subscription... Thats the only reason I by a gaming console... Never have I bought one for POWA!... To Add, if sony goes the GAAS model, Ill be just a PC gamer.....Like always, MS tries a market, like Mobile, Zune. OG Xbox, Expecting to strong arm their way in , but when it fails, they go running, and use their marketing tag terms like "Outdated Console War" .. And usual, Based on nothing inovative , but a consolidation of what's been on offer by Mobile stores , Steam , and streaming subs like Netflix Gakia, Have fun with your sub box , And if Powa matters, it shouldn't right?? Console wars out dated....So says MS right? Though Im sure the IQ and FPS on those VR games with be awesome with the POWA of MS's Non Gen. OH Wait! To add... Sad that this entire gen the SX is the most powerful? Wow.. So thats all you've got? Thats your retort? GOLD , and with no VR on a next gen console, when even a current gem console has VR, I feel even dumber for responding..... I award you no Points, And no Exclusives.

[@Rhythmattica]

@Hannibal Lol... Soooooooo DESPERATE.... Seems like most FB's , its always an assumption based on nothing but a small vocabulary and a correspondence no more creative than a sentence from a DR Zeuss book. Congrats .. You havent ever set the bar low, its but a invisible line below the ground you walk on. Never go full.

[@GrahamTriggsUK]

Can I just point out that the suggestion the PS4 Pro gets loud because of dust is nonsense. OK, dust might make it get louder, but I've just popped the top cover off of my PS4 Pro, and it is absolutely spotless. The PS4 Pro is loud anyway because it has appallingly inadequate air intake - and it just gets worse from there.

[@GrahamTriggsUK]

And if you want to see a similar fan design in the PC space, you would need to check out something like the GTX 1080 Founders Edition. In a PC, we generally have fans mounted on inlet / outlet surfaces of a case, the surface of a heatsink / radiator and these require a fan that moves air through the blades. You would only use a fan that blows air out of the edges of the fan when you are placing it adjacent to the heatsink as they have in the PS5, or as is the case in the 1080 Founders, where the fan is on one side of the card, blows through the heatsink and exhausts to the rear.

[@g3neralcross911]

Also it’s due to shitty thermal application. I recommend getting your own trope of thermal paste.

[@kraenk12]

Not true..we know it’s badly applied cooling paste in 99% of cases.

[@vale_recca]

There's alot of people that cleaned their ps4 and it fixed the jet noise but if the fan is like a jet engine for you and it's clean then something is definitely wrong with the hardware/software it self, For example awhile ago the Lobby at Modern Warfare PS4 have an Uncapped Frames/s bug and then the CPU overheat because it's trying to run the game at basically Unlimited frames/s and made the Fan overspeed trying to cool down the CPU

[@GrahamTriggsUK]

Thermal paste might be part of the issue. Software definitely is part of the issue - the more demanding the software, the more cooling it needs. On the dashboard, the PS4 Pro is quiet. Play Gran Turismo and it wants to take off. And whilst some software might have bugs, fundamentally there should have been more openings so the fan didn't need to spin up quite so dramatically.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

The stuff is mildly interesting but what I'm really waiting for are the side by side comparisons of how old and new games look and perform on the ps5 vs series X. Like which console will give a better fps for Sekiro or Red Dead 2, etc.

[@MarkWilliamson-kc6lh]

sx won. next!

[@aimcrazy5843]

Wrong . Your not going to see any difference cause ps5 smart switch will up the gpu and cpu power to take on the graphic Fidelity and will be no human eye that will see the difference

[@grantgarbour]

There most likely won't be any noticeable difference

[@ruxis8179]

For games like those, most likely they'll be hitting 60 fps on both Maybe some very minimal differences. Red Dead as an example is a bit more tricky but Sekiro will be the same on both. I ran that on near max with 60fps on a 970 lmao

[@MarkWilliamson-kc6lh]

@@aimcrazy5843 smart shift is a terrible implementation and will never beat anything the sx has...period. educate urself kid

[@natzuur]

Another interesting tidbit that was passed over, it looks like the mainboard shielding has another smaller heatpipe and heatsink built in, assumingly for the VRM's, you can also see thermal compound on those components and possibly on the ram modules as well.

[@TheLittleSpoon1982]

Really gotta sit back and admire the engineering solutions each team used this go around. Very excited to be so close to this next generation. No matter your preferred platform we all win. Hey does anyone know if that WiFi 6 is a sign that this next PSVR is going to be wireless? I love my current VR but the cord is a nightmare when you live with 3 dogs running everywhere.

[@markiep8477]

It would certainly help, but the fact that it is WiFi 6 just means it's contemporary.

[@leonxl]

@@markiep8477 not really since most people don’t even have WiFi6 routers..

[@markiep8477]

@@leonxl Yes, but if you are buying a new router now, you would be wise to get a WiFi 6. It is the current and best performing spec.

[@MavihsLH]

@@leonxl Wifi 6 will just provide a really stable and solid connection even if people arent rocking wifi 6 routers. That extra optimization will also help for a pretty solid VR.

[@leonxl]

@@MavihsLH nope. In order to get any of the WiFi6 benefits, you need to have a WiFi6 device connected to a WiFi6 router through ax. Otherwise it’ll just connect through a/b/g/n or ac. Look it up

[@QuirosErick]

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO TALKS THINGS AS THEY ARE

[@Marco4Strings]

I support PS5, but this guy have a point. I think I’ll get a SX.

[@Magido89]

The salt, i can literally taste it

[@Syberware]

Same lmao

[@makemsayugh]

Salt of what? This ps5? Lol 😆

[@PHY51C15T]

So much salt it's almost bitter

[@makemsayugh]

@@PHY51C15T I dont get it dude

[@PHY51C15T]

@MertensCW we're too busy laughing and having a good time what's to have a mental breakdown about LOL these are some of the best times in gaming we're headed into and it's being lead by tech giant Sony putting their best foot forward in the gaming arena; doesn't get much better

[@skins4thewin]

Sounds like the Series X does indeed have the edge in raw power, but Sony has gone a different route, focusing more on immersion and features such as the Haptic Feedback that are really going to matter to gamers when they actually start to play. A bit more graphics performance is probably not going to be that big a deal at the end of the day with much more and better games to play on the Sony hardware, along with a better controller with better immersion in general. I think Sony once again will likely dominate the market this console generation.

[@MirzaKhalid]

I am not sure...Sony is following the footsteps of SEGA unfortunately

[@skins4thewin]

@@MirzaKhalid What on earth are you talking about? Lol I am pretty darn sure Sony is doing a whole helluva lot better than Sega is doing right now. Are you on some hardcore drugs my friend? Cus you're talking some absolute nonsense.

[@MirzaKhalid]

@@skins4thewin I think you are a moron, nonsense and an idiot too, please check out the documentary on "Console Wars"- where it showed how SEGA managed to take down Nintendo but eventually failed in the end because of SEGA's greed, ego and stupidity to cope up with the recent tech in the late 1990s. Do some research before you bark on someone else's fact you PlayStation fanboy

[@michealadebz]

You predicted it

[@skins4thewin]

@@michealadebz Wasn't that hard to predict. It's what Sony has been doing since the PS1 and why they have always been more successful. Did anyone REALLY think Microsoft would beat out Sony this time around? The Sony platform is just a plain better experience with far better games, and it's better/worse than ever this time around, depending on ur perspective as either a Sony/Microsoft fanboy.

[@pablocordoba5244]

"kept you waiting uh"

[@pablocordoba5244]

@Z390 😢

[@RogerJL]

Do not just skip over Bluetooth 5.1 it has quite interesting features over 5.0 - localisation...

[@orielsy]

@@AP90x Dude please! You're just saying that because the Series X is more powerful (and this is a hardware channel mostly) or because they cover XB hardware more but that's not their doing Sony has been too tight lipped and MS has been the opposite.

[@ardasevmis7583]

@@orielsy the Xbox is more powerful but likely not by much. It has about 40% more cores but the PS5 has about 30% higher clocks and cores don't tend to scale performance as linearly as clock speed. I expect both to be nearly identical with both basically having the same game settings. Perhaps very rarely the Xbox will have better performance but just barely. They are fairly close. Though I expect the Xbox to run ray tracing better as RT cores are related to core count on the GPU and it does have nearly double the GPU cores.

[@orielsy]

@@AP90x They couldn't discus the PS5 during the XB reveal because PS5 had nothing out. You yourself acknowledge this. You can't discuss one without contrasting it with the other players in the field. You're talking nonsense here and you know it. Games are reviewed for their INDIVIDUAL characteristics. They aren't going to complain about the same thing across different genres although there may be overlap. A game like Fortnite for example isn't going to get dinged for a lack of realism. Similarly a game like Halo that isn't going for ultra realism isn't going to get the same critiques that a more cinematic game would. In any case you can't review a gameplay reveal like you would a released game. Let Halo Infinite come out before you pass judgement on that.

[@orielsy]

@@ardasevmis7583 I don't care to measure by how much XB is more powerful I only wish to emphasize that it is more powerful and thus Digital Foundry reporting on performance related subjects seems to rub people the wrong way. To the point where they are claiming that one of the most unbiased raw sources of gameplay analysis in the world is biased/corrupted. A claim which is NOT FOUNDED on facts merely speculation. Claiming such things should not be done lightly. Digital Foundry isn't some rinky dink flamebaiting news source.

[@orielsy]

​@@AP90x You seem to have lost track of how time works. You've may have something stuck somewhere. It's got your brain crossed because Mark Cerny's Road to PS5 event happened weeks after MS and Digital Foundry recorded the Series X reveal. Get B**t hurt out of your life, take Sony's [........] out your back side and take MS boot out of your mouth and hopefully then you'll remember how time works. So insecure because the PS5 is not more powerful. Pitiful.

[@JP-qb8qx]

Me a noob: "wow, that's really clever engineering".

[@madatyoutoob]

@12Tflop BruteForce 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍

[@Marco4Strings]

@12Tflop BruteForce Haha for sure it is bro... keep burning 🔥

[@sfturbo]

DF seems to be salty that Sony don't give a shit about them

[@V8RacerGT]

Sure😂

[@miguelsosacreed6055]

That's Why they are so salty 😟

[@mortyexplains]

Should call it the Playstation Half Man

[@weaponx40]

PST would work too. (PlayStation Torso)

[@jackkrauser7269]

It kinda looks like a baby I want my baby back baby back baby back ribs chilies baby back ribs

[@princegroove]

Half Asian man, actually. 🤣

[@manrightchea]

@@jackkrauser7269 Yeah a baby elephant.. all that size and still 38% weaker than Series X.

[@Psychoterratic]

@@manrightchea yeah & they want you to pay the same as the small & more powerful console & charge you 70$ a game 🖕🏾... no thank you, my brain still works thankfully🙄

[@UserInterface00]

The video everyone was waiting for since the 1,000,000 sub special. Thanks DF! Keep up the great work.

[@peterGchaves]

Well spotted!! Launching the PS5 Teardown Analysis by the 1 M mark... Coincidence?? I don't think so 😉

[@AgsmaJustAgsma]

3 views, 3 comments. Half-Life 3 confirmed.

[@Edwins1984]

20 likes, sorry its a hoax sir

[@SepiaQuotient]

Oh s, here we go again.

[@kinghippo1515]

Sorry to disappoint you but there is no Half-Life 3

[@gauravnegi4312]

@@kinghippo1515 as there is no world war 3.

[@LouSassol69er]

HL3 better be on Series X and PS5

[@xluisxrko]

This is a good xbox analysis

[@sloqlap]

Correct me if I am wrong, but dismantling no longer voids warranty (In the US).

[@LeesChannel]

Oh yeah, I think you're right!

[@8eege]

I'm sure both consoles will still have "warranty void is removed" stickers but those aren't actually legal in the US and can be easily removed with a hair dryer. lol

[@theragingsparten1107]

16:13 Ah... i see ya there... I wink back to you good sir ;)

[@MattSoup79]

Finally someone who uses the "proof of the pudding" phrase correctly, thank you sir!

[@random_gamer_guy82]

I'm interested to see how much faster games load on playstation 5s ssd as opposed to xbox series X on cross platform heavy graphical games.

[@westinbye]

Yeah thoreticly it would be twice as fast right? Unless there is a bottle neck somewhere else.

[@DEVILTAZ35]

@@westinbye Probably shave off a few seconds as the better CPU has a bearing on things on series X too. We still don't know what speed the CPU in the PS5 runs at at start up either. I just don't like variances. You want full power all the time to all games even back compat is not going to be great on PS5 compared to Series X.

[@ChicagoMade]

We all are if Sony would let someone test the system

[@Sjbx]

I expect load times to be a couple of seconds faster, don't get your hopes up.

[@sjneow]

@@DEVILTAZ35 no modern CPU is locked to a clock, it will always on a variable clock speed according to needs, it will just generate a lot more heat and consume unnecessary power when running a game that doesn't need it to be running full speed all the time.

[@symboltherapper]

So true..I paid $30 for my official Sony PS4 pro stand

[@HKgaming86]

I remember really wanting one of these for my ps2 back in the day, glad I never bothered

[@Bcap222]

Blessed aliexpress

[@xhurish]

The One S is only 10 Dollar.Its just a piece of plastic?Why did it cost 30 for Ps4?Ok I guess

[@cakestalker]

@FUCK YOU GOOGLE ASSHOLE The stand comes with the PS5.

[@loic4947]

@FUCK YOU GOOGLE ASSHOLE how could you lose it ?

[@ashc3765]

While the console itself has to a certain extent been shrouded in mystery Sony has delivered on what I think is the most important aspect. They have shown a generous amount of gameplay and given consumers a taste of what to expect games will be like going forward. We know a lot of the little details of the Series X console but for your average consumer who is interested in what new content they will experience on the new console it has been very disappointing.

[@DVRKSTXR]

I completely agree. Sony is selling the PS5 with the full intent of showcasing next-gen experiences, on newer and more powerful hardware than what PlayStation fans already have. Microsoft is promoting the XSX as a better X1 with full generational backward compatibility support for old games that are already available on older hardware, with close to no insight on next-gen experiences at launch.

[@richr161]

@@DVRKSTXR For launch. Your right. The crown jewel Xbox has is game pass, which is a phenomenal deal. The issue is that it isn't as exciting as having first party titles that "wow" the users to buy a console on day 1.

[@DVRKSTXR]

@@richr161 Exactly! I’m not trying to say that “Xbox has no games!” or “it’s over for Xbox!” because I don’t believe that. The games are coming and more studio acquisitions are coming as well. The ZeniMax buyout was Microsoft’s way of alluding towards that future for Xbox. It’s just that, as far as 2020-2021 go, PlayStation is king with both the PS4/PS5 and that’s not debatable. I look at the PS5’s 2021 lineup and I immediately think, “STACKED!”. I look at the XSX’s lineup and I think, “Halo Infinite...maybe...”.

[@sjneow]

@Mr.Tweezy007 you must be blind

[@Artdizzle]

@Mr.Tweezy007 only Xbox fanboys even try to compare both lineups, PS5 has shown instant world teleporting load times, high res/fps with high quality textures and animation AND ray tracing... All in REALLY compelling games like Demons Souls, Ratchet, Spiderman, GT7, and even the short in-game trailers like Horizon Forbidden West.... Plus we're getting God of War next year too. Not to mention we're getting an ALL NEW controller and interface/features..... Clearly there's only ONE next gen console right now that's actually demonstrating a next gen experience, sorry bud. But come back when we've seen a good looking nextgen Series X game!

[@TWAAAAACKS]

I love the Toyota comparison! 🤣 Accurate comparison on so many levels. Ahaha

[@djkoz78]

For all the Sony fanboys DF raises valid concerns about the expandle SSD heat that doesn't make them shills. For the Xbox fanboys just bc they raised these concerns doesn't mean Sony hasn't thought about this & it will fail. The console has been in development for 5 years & Sony knows what they are doing. DF isn't shills. They are doing their jobs & without a unit from Sony they can only speculate until they get their hands on the console themselves to do testing. Jesus i hate fanboyism.

[@26101976bdm]

He mentioned ms more than Sony in a teardown of a Sony console. So much forced concerned - better known as concern trolling. Sony has copped it bigtime over the last gen for noisey consoles - rightly so. Do you think they would have addressed that? I do. I also have confidence in there strategy to mitigate thermals within PS5 - including the expansion bay. Rich is a classless shill - it shows more often than not. And Eurogamer are one of the publications the LOVE to perpetuate false rumours regarding PS5 over the last year or so.

[@Albert-P27]

Well, it's funny how he conjecture that the commercial SSD's that can be put to the PS5 will suffer from "overheating", but of the Xbox's SSD card doesn't say anything when it doesn't have any dissipation either.

[@djkoz78]

@@26101976bdm he mentioned this bc that's all they have to compare it to. Without the actual unit from Sony they are basing it on the XSX designed & how it COULD compare. He even mentioned at the beginning that Sony's strategy of drip feeding info was the better option bc people are STARVING for that info & HYPED to get the PS5. I personally think it's bc we have seen actual next gen games captured & running on the PS5 unlike MS & they look incredible. Look up the compilation of people who got to see Demon Souls gameplay trailer. They were blown away but Xbox fanboys jumped at the opportunity to shit on PS5 bc of DF saying it was running at 30fps. No one cared it was 30fps. Visa versa when the XSX was reported to be really hot the PS5 fanboys jumped at the chance to shit on the XSX saying it was overheating. Which the journalist NEVER said that. They just said it was hot & blowing hot air. He used hyperbole saying it could "heat your flat" but that was just a joke. Again i cannot stand fanboyism from either side. Sony nor MS give 2 squirts of piss about people defending a corporation that's meant to sell you a product.

[@26101976bdm]

@@djkoz78 if you don't see any bias when Dick is talking about PlayStation products - I can't help you, it's plain to see. Fake concern throughout, mentioned ms at every turn - and with an air of praise. Yet they haven't shown any games running on xsx. Now - you mentioned the xsx getting hot and how Sony fanboys jumped all over it. In the case of PS5 - that would happen and then a publication would run with it and before you know you have untruth being siad as fact. I am a fanboy - don't shy away from that fact either. Sony are guilty of bad messaging/mixed this time around - that cant be denied.

[@djkoz78]

@@26101976bdm wait are you calling me a fanboy? Bc i have both the PS5 & XSX preordered. I don't care what your opinion of DF is. I disagree. Literally on the Richard's twitter you have XBOX fanboys calling him a Sony shill right now. You seem to be the fanboy bc its pissed you off this much.

[@tommybull6578]

You're gonna have to buy a ps5 like everyone DF

[@zac3k33]

Yup even if the digital foundry guy is bitter lol

[@skjultkraft5063]

As it should be

[@spenny2cents]

Comparing the PS5 to a Toyota had me rollin

[@9SMTM6]

On the whole a great video. One thing though: Could you PLEASE STOP calling the PS5s APU power distribution scheme "boost clock"? That term is already in use with a quite different solution and implies issues that should not be present with the PS5. The PS5 does not boost based on environmental circumstances like PC GPUs do, it instead has a total power that can be distributed differently between CPU and GPU. Actually that distribution isn't really based on a real power reading but on that of a model APU. That makes it a whole lot more predictable and is IMAO a good design choice as with games its often the case that one of these two components gets stressed far more than the other in specific scenes. EDIT: Fix a misrepresentation after freshing up again.

[@costel1705]

And why you cry if they say the true? Hahahaha

[@9SMTM6]

@@costel1705 I wonder whether you're trolling, don't want to understand what I'm saying or simply are too stupid to get it.

[@4dee103]

@@9SMTM6 haha i hope hes trolling. You know the saying : When your dead, you dont know youre dead, its only hard for the others. Its the same when you are stupid.

[@TerraWare]

@@4dee103 As a PC guy I'm curious to see how the PS5 performs, I'm curious about the Series X also because I love gaming and technology but the PS5 seems to be abit mysterious and a more heavily customized setup. I'm not buying one but am as curious as if I was.

[@IzThatit]

What are the issued implied by a term? Console gamers aren't familiar with boosted processor speeds so I'm trying to understand the issue. I'm honestly trying to understand the issue either way...

[@Lit_Hot_takes]

The installation of the NVME SSD in the Bay looks very technical for the average family or person i think. Microsoft's priority route is far more Commercially user friendly.

[@logant2282]

True. But if a user isn’t technically minded I doubt they even care about expanding their storage. They’re probably just gonna delete some games.

[@Rhythmattica]

Now Theres a fish that got away.,... More expensive , Proprietary, at least its "userFriendly"

[@MrRonski]

Removing a cover and 1 screw is almost as simple as changing the batteries of a toy. I do think people will have a harder time to get a ps5 compatible SSD.

[@Rhythmattica]

@@MrRonski And what about thew screw for the Stand!!!! What were sony thinking !! ;)

[@pabloaguirre4168]

I really glad that you make this analysis. Hope for a series s teardown soon.

[@DarkMubar]

I wish the comments would stop with the fanboyism. It isn't anything new, but wow has it become more rampant than it has in the past. I guess this is the price that they have to pay for the increase in popularity. The DF team do great work, and this is another great video. People need to realise there is never any "salt" or strong bias with them, they just cover what they can and give their thoughts when they can be certain.

[@LouSassol69er]

I'd argue that it was worse last gen. People with their copypasta of how much more pixels a game has over the competition. At least each console is a respectable product this time round.

[@TerraWare]

Many of the people accusing them of being MS Shills can regularly be found on Xbox channels trashing Xbox and bragging about the PS5. That's the level of IQ we're dealing with here. They always derail discourse and are as intolerant as they are ignorant. I guess this is inevitable when you allow kids to sit in an adults table.

[@sevencity461]

DF should start the videos with "This video is sponsored by microsofth"....

[@gunstar7538]

Triggered Sad bro

[@bf5175]

Fanboy tears are the most delicious.

[@peter5444]

Without wanting to incite any "console war" silliness, I do think that the Series X is a better engineered piece of kit. To be as small as it is in comparison to PS5 and yet be the more powerful box is really impressive.

[@Raven1180]

Yes but not in totality. Like John said the devs have informed him all isnt what it seems.

[@antwango]

to be as small to the detriment of heat dissipation??? theres a balance obviously... now we're hearing complaints of xbx being HOT.... people complained of heat and noise, sony design to get rid of both, now people complain about size lol and want to squeeze it into the smallest box possible... we will see how well the x fares when games push the tech... dont forget ps5 runs hotter and faster... and im pretty sure sony devs will push the tech till its screaming and breathing fire

[@westinbye]

@@antwango yes I think this is the question. If both companies deliver in their promises and keep the systems cool the Xbox is more impressive from an engineering perspective. But the PS5 I am sure will work, more safe I guess.

[@peter5444]

To be clear, I don't think any console will have any heating problems, rumour is they both run at similar temperatures. Just in my opinion, Series X is the better engineered. If it overheats etc then I will stand corrected!

[@Behzad_abd]

Great and honest break down of the tear down. Great work

[@lightyagami8645]

" honest " lol

[@meguchan5814]

You fkin kidding right? Lmao

[@Behzad_abd]

I am serious. I don't get it why playstation fans are offended by the video. It is not saying anything bad about ps5

[@lightyagami8645]

@@Behzad_abd ignoring the benefits of liquid metal , ignoring how more future proof ps5 is , ignoring the volume of heat sink , ignoring the dual sided fan .

[@Behzad_abd]

@@lightyagami8645 hs says about liquid metal "the most optimal thermal solution". He didn't ignore the fan or heatsink. Before replying to you, i watched the video again, honestly I don't see any bias.

[@FranzBorg]

Fair and knowledgeable analysis, a rarity here on KZbin.

[@rhandolldiaz6063]

My God. The console warriors in this comment section are hilarious

[@kevinbarbeau]

Have you seen all the idiots trying to say that Sony somehow put no effort in building PS5 and "slapped a bunch of pieces together on the last minute", this is just sad and pathetic how a bunch of kids can’t even handle the competitor doing something good 🙄

[@Cartoonman154]

​@@kevinbarbeau I think he's talking about people like you.

[@kazum9746]

No seriously, I've been watching videos about the consoles for a month now and this is the worst most infested console fanboys comment section I've seen to date. The salt is enough to fill the ocean.

[@Ample17]

@@Cartoonman154 Ouuh the burn 😂🔥 Checkmate.

[@kevinbarbeau]

@@Cartoonman154 🙇‍♂️

[@xBINARYGODx]

That part at the beginning is just bizarre, even ignoring that MS and Sony are entering a new gen from differing places and so have different challenges and opportunities wrt PR. PS - saying nothing or very little is not managing hype, quite the opposite (and the hype for the ps5 is based on the sales of the ps4, not anything Sony themselves has done, which a lot of that has had the opposite affect outside of circles that will be hyped no matter what).

[@Rhythmattica]

Thats what Craig said... (couldn't help it....)

[@charlesmerkey123]

I don't agree with this sentiment. I know a lot of people that are making the switch from MS to Sony this generation to start knowing they'll eventually own both. For many people I know, it has to do with the stock of games due out the first year, and feedback from developers regarding game development and how things have changed with Sony's SSD and 3D audio piece. None of the people I know are basing their expectations off of PS4 sales, though they are looking at the catalog of games the PS4 has as an indication of what to expect this gen.. And really, let's face it, its about the games/experience.

[@tiborhorvath1702]

Microsofts Console is smaller and has more power. This is usually called the first sign of "Better Engineering". 🤷‍♂️

[@canthetoasterdoraytracing6414]

Its that better engineering that we've seen no raytracing yet and a sub par dirt running dynamic 4k lmfao

[@TheRealLazyEntrepreneur]

It also doesn’t require a screwdriver and base to stand vertically or horizontally.

[@manrightchea]

@@canthetoasterdoraytracing6414 We have seen ray tracing already. You clearly don't watch this channel. Microsoft already showed the next gen Minecraft for Series X running path tracing not normal ray tracing. Path tracing is more difficult than ray tracing but it already had it so educate yourself. Also ray tracing takes more compute units and guess what Microsoft has 44% more than PS5. Series X on average is 38% stronger..

[@thetraveler2224]

@@TheRealLazyEntrepreneur Apparently to you a screw is really hard to remove.