Bayonetta 2 on Switch First Look: Improved Over Wii U!

[@shoolktime2960]

bayonetta with hd rumble ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@suprshin]

Shoolk Time damn, I forgot that was a selling point.

[@Crazy_2100]

Rumble is a selling point? At least labo looks fun but damm fucking rumble wow

[@Who-Uhm-Cares]

Hd rumble is fantastic really. Honestly the best feature on the switch. If they could put it in the Xbox one controller with the rumble triggers i would actually leave on rumble.

[@Averdein]

the rumble really makes the experience tons better. Rumble on Wii U felt cheap and I satisfying, but using bullet arts with that switch rumble 😍

[@101supertails]

To the people wanting Bayonetta 2 on PC, PS4, XBONE, I'm just gonna drop this quote again. "How about asking Nintendo? If Nintendo says no, it's not gonna happen. While you're at it, try asking for Mario or Zelda too..." - Hideki Kamiya.

[@blackbomber72]

101supertails Like asking PlayStation for Bloodborne or Uncharted. Absurd. Some people these days tbh.

[@sorterwoodsteel]

They may as well buy the franchise if Bayonetta 3 is also switch exclusive, like they did with Fatal Frame.

[@101supertails]

blackbomber72 Like, I can understand why people want it on ps4 and Xbone and I would be just fine with the game being available on both consoles as well, but Platinum's hands are tied. Nothing they can really do about it other than port the game to future Nintendo Consoles, in this case, the Switch.

[@TheRealOneSam]

101supertails I played it on Cemu in 4K and 60 FPS and can only pity the poor people who had to play it on the Wii U. Oh, and i can play Mario and Zelda on my PC too.

[@101supertails]

Congratulations. You got to play Bayonetta 2 on your PC. Now show me a picture of your Wii U copy of the game.

[@Screwy]

W O N D E R F U L 1 0 1 W H E N

[@theindiediary5950]

And pikmin!!!

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

Mojo Reanimated wasn't pikmin 4 confirmed in development?

[@theindiediary5950]

Dunno? I hope so though! :0

[@James-og2qu]

Mojo Reanimated Yes it was confirmed. Probably going to release this year.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

It might have to be pretty different from the Wii U version considering you can't play on the Switch with a screen in your hand AND on the TV, right?

[@KaiSchSp]

Love these games! Music, gameplay and art style are all a straight 10/10 for me!

[@Mustafa_9628]

Kai SchSp amen to that

[@KaiSchSp]

true, that's why I specified what exactly I love about those games.

[@pierreo33]

60 fps > graphics

[@HAMEDSniperS]

But how about that ass ? Kai?

[@DavidHosey1]

@@melxb nah the graphics are beautiful, style is better than the most basic and common of improvements

[@ClaytonMathisVO]

Bayonetta 3 hype!

[@warweeny5127]

probably runs at 35fps or even below that lol

[@christianr.5868]

war weeny yeah that’s what I’m thinking. They’d better make a switch pro

[@TonyKanameKuran]

Chrissy, don't believe the joke.

[@christianr.5868]

TonyKanameKuran Im just going based on what we’ve seen and how platinum has taken the series so far. But I don’t know shit about development so I hope they surprise me. I mean people can say what they want, but the game is beautiful and still runs smooth

[@ChevyJP86]

id just be glad if we got a good form of bayonetta 3 in any sense! sure i like frame rates and resolutions as much as the next guy but i grew up during the sega and super nintendo era where stupid stuff like display resolution and frame rates weren't as big a deal as they are now! i swear people that play games now in like the past 10 years, care more about frame rate and graphical fidelity/ Resolution, more than the actual gameplay and story and the mechanics... which blows my mind! its extremely toxic this scene compared to what it use to be lol! i play games for games, if they are good! then thats wicked! dont get me wrong i love graphics and smooth gameplay and frame rates and display resolution! i just dont base my overall "omg i wont play this game because its in 720p with frame rates that dip to 35 40 fps from 60" i know way to many snobs on here and in real life that PC only game... it makes me cringe lol!!

[@corey2232]

The comments section is so much nicer when it's just a Nintendo exclusive game they're looking at.... When it's an Xbox vs PS4 comparison, all hell breaks loose.

[@ericjamesraackf]

Corey D no they're not very nice they're complaining about it not coming to their platform and saying Nintendo is ruining the IP having it on Switch when Nintendo rescued the franchise

[@oussama7132]

You can't have console wars if the game is exclusive

[@gavin.l4440]

Arsames 1337 in a way your saying the wii u is better then the switch cuz cemu is a wii u elmuanator

[@christianr.5868]

Arsames 1337 hey I wanna prove a point, you don’t own a Wii U right?

[@TheTomo910]

Arsames 1337 the hate that people like you have really needs to be helped. It's a piece of plastic like every pc and console is. Or is it because nintendo have quality products that play great and are a lot of fun

[@Wallie33.]

Arsames 1337 But pc is overrated tho, is also not portable. And last time I checked you needed a Wii U to use the emulator for that anyway, so get destroyed you pc fanboy.

[@christianr.5868]

Angelo Diaz GPD win 2 fits in your pocket. I like the switch more, it’s cheaper with better exclusives. But you might wanna know about the Win 2 before making a portable argument

[@victorko9627]

Video is great, game also. Comment section is Aids as usual.

[@dickyboy2315]

At least if you have aids the chances are you've had sex. Most people here are inflating their dolls as we speak.

[@noelarreola5641]

I didn't thought the comment section would be that bad... Boy, was I wrong.

[@dave7886]

Reading the comments give off the sense of hopelessness for the community, almost as if there's no possibility of people just being happy that a new game is out, so when you respond to a comment, try to say something positive...(not what I was originally going for, but it works)

[@bobtart12]

The switch is the one console I've owned since the Xbox 360. I've had pc ever since exclusively. And coming from a 144hz monitor run by a gtx 1080ti, I gotta admit, I love the switch. Fuck power when you have such amazing games to play anywhere you are. Truly an awesome console and my first Nintendo device ever. The best wishes to all switch fans!

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

I am a PC gamer and Switch is my first Nintendo console as well. I think that Switch is the only console that will appeal to pc gamers because it's something that's not trying to be a shitty PC.

[@stevenasante8662]

That's incredible. Really, it makes me happy that people are broadening their horizons and giving Nintendo a chance.

[@DarkAnomaly]

Same. I play games on PC at 4K and ever since the Switch came out I spend a lot more time playing on that than I do on my PC.

[@helloguy8934]

Nooo. Bro come back. We miss you.

[@freezeframeplease]

welcome to nintendo hardware, where gameplay comes first most of the times! hope you're having a blast like i did with my first xbox console !

[@AshesAriseTW]

Never played this series before, but got a switch 3 weeks ago and definitely gonna pick this up

[@Ultra_Ken]

portable bayonetta nuff said.

[@christianr.5868]

ken byron Tagimacruz damn right

[@itsaxel8088]

JOYCONMEN

[@biggiejerseysTV]

Exactly.

[@denisn8336]

ken byron Tagimacruz you don't have to worry about playing the game when you're parents are in the room

[@AriesSpirit25]

i want to play bayonetta in the bathroom with earbuds 😏😌😊

[@pcgameboy8407]

Best hack'n'slash i played in a loooong time.

[@mistakrookcpt5033]

PC GameBoy have you played yakuza kiwami??? I found out about it by searching games similar to Bayonneta.

[@retroboy-fh1ji]

XGAD the new God of Us? Hahahahhaa you make me laugh. Bayonetta is better than the new "God of War" garbage.

[@supersbbrawl4ever]

Only hack n slash that at least rivals Bayonetta mechanically are DMC3-5. Reboot doesn't count.

[@TruTrae]

Fabricio Vega garbage? Yeah no the games are really different but both are some of the best games imo

[@RadDude69X]

One of the greatest games of all time can't wait to play it again with a better framerate :D

[@PinkKips]

honestly this is pretty tame for a digital foundry comment section.

[@FoosterThePeople]

and it's still pretty toxic

[@DanilMetal]

for platinum game the word "stable" will never apply to them

[@illusionofartYT]

DanilMetal it actully is most of the time thou and the full analysis isnt even here yet

[@franciscor390]

on PC son, all power you can handle.

[@christianr.5868]

franky nier automata even drops on pc lol

[@6utS]

it doesnt really with a mod, which is fine, u can get stable 60fps no matter what and its glorious

[@nunyabusiness8000]

franky lol nier automata had framerate drops even on beast PCs

[@squalltheonly]

I can't wait to play this at work, fuck yeah! Nintendo switch is the best.

[@Wippipippi]

squalltheonly wow a positive comment about the quality of the game you get a medal

[@Leyhkeze]

Wait, shouldn't you be working... at work?

[@patsary2190]

Nintendo is the best! Overpriced port for 60$ when competion is selling a full-on remake for only 40$.

[@danipatac7210]

pat sary It comes with 2 games.

[@icy1007]

Shouldn't be playing video games on a work break. lol

[@makoman115]

This game isn't being released for people who have a WiiU. If you have a wiiU and bayonetta 2, you don't need to buy it on switch, unless you really want to play it on the go. If you've never played Bayonetta 2 and don't own a WiiU, then this purchase is a no-brainer! Excellent game.

[@Poever]

makoman115 I’d rather play it on Switch. I owned it and never touched it on Wii U. What does that say about the hardware?

[@D1ab0lical]

Poever Your loss, it was great on the Wii U.

[@doomslayer_spyrofan3943]

And then i come here and tell you that i bought it for wii u today lol

[@pcgameboy8407]

Here comes the people saying "Bring Bayonetta 2 to PS4/XB1 to see its full potential!" So can we bring Horizon, Uncharted, Halo 5, and more to PC to see their full potential? No? Then no to Bayonetta 2..

[@dlaroc]

PC GameBoy Horizon is on PC...

[@pcgameboy8407]

Horizon Zero Dawn? No its not..

[@G_GO0NO]

PC GameBoy go play in traffic

[@natsuki_kay]

I mean Halo 5 is technically on PC just not the whole experience.

[@biglevian]

I get that ms and Sony ducked up with Platinum in Bayonetta, but as gamers let's hope that exclusives die out, that we can play everything in everything. Fanboyism doesn't help the community but the big companies.

[@ja52ng74]

I honestly never noticed any significant frame rate drops on the Wii U version. Fps wasn't an issue that harmed the gameplay, so it's good to see that the Switch version is improved for the more eagle eyed.

[@MORJDK]

Still day 1! :)

[@zy2239]

Who is watching this on 2024 ???

[@Sprinter142]

Me 😅

[@Mr.Chimpazee]

Hi

[@Ibrahim_Alharbi]

Me

[@rileyking7615]

Me!

[@murattyngo]

should I buy 1&2 bundle?

[@Papimillenium2K]

This game was so amazing. Thanks for the update. I think people need to play it first before judging it. Its beautiful. Also for all the PC Nerds ou there. This game is exclusive to Nintendo , as well as the 3rd game in the series. Who cares play it where its at. I am double dipping.

[@pksstr]

Well, it can be played in a WiiU emulator at 1080p

[@suyashsaluja691]

pksstr cemu has severe audio issues last I checked and the emu devs are fixing botw cz that's where the patreon money is coming from

[@archivey-h8e]

Bayonetta 1 wasn't even on PC until recently, it was 360/PS3 fanboys getting mad Bayo 2 was exclusive, also 2 is on PC with CEMU.

[@christianr.5868]

Ultizer than everyone wins?

[@christianr.5868]

It’s gonna be my first time playing it. It looks pretty good from what I’ve seen

[@rayminishi689]

I never noticed any performance issues because the gameplay, visuals and soundtrack warrant it a legit experience for me to enjoy.

[@lyconxero457]

I'm curious to see what Platinum can do with Bayonetta 3 which is being built specifically for the Switch.

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Lycon Xero They can probably get it up to least... 750p!

[@christianr.5868]

I’m curious too. it’s the only semi realistic game (other than Metroid) that is being made specifically for switch. It’ll give us a good look at what the switch is actually capable of

[@lorenzorios8514]

Well, its real, lol

[@DavidHosey1]

@@nickmotsarsky4382 uhh the resolution is better than that, and also looks and runs really well. What’s with the switch hate on a switch game’s video lmao

[@GenesHand]

I come from the future, it looks worse than Bayo2 on the Wii U lol

[@jamesguitarist]

I think it runs like a dream man. Love it. Only played handheld as well.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Something to tear me away from Xenoblade 2.

[@trixniisama]

therobotchickenMLP Xenoblade 2 GOTY 2017

[@mx4159]

Jeremiah Stewart so don’t play it portable

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Personally, I get used to it after a few minutes. The first time I booted up the game on launch day, there was no information about resolution, so it surprised me how blurry the rain in the opening was.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

It certainly is a contender. It's immensely satisfying when you quickly get a bunch of elemental orbs on a tough enemy and then chain attack through all of them, increasing the damage and bonus multiplier to insane numbers. My highest is x6773% for damage and x446% for bonus. I maxed out the damage on that combo and had all eight elemental orbs.

[@terrystokes869]

I bought a switch lite last night just to play this tonight while laying in bed chilling 😄

[@jaguar4120]

I absolutely love Bayonetta. She is a super strong character. I love her style and personality. I have both of her games on WiiU and Switch. I can't wait for Bayonetta 3. I hope there are more amazing cutscenes in Bayonetta 3. 🥳🥰😍🤩❤

[@RhythmGrizz]

Bayonetta 3 is out today! 🙂

[@jaguar4120]

@@RhythmGrizz Yup. It’s amazing. Hopefully DLC will be added later.

[@StarrySkykes]

Well, i played first Bayonetta on Xbox 360 but i was really skocked about Bayo2 exclusive for Wii U. Not angry but unexpected for me. Im glad with Nintendo for save this amazing hack n slash. So i played Bayonetta again on Steam and waiting for $$$ cuz i want buy a Nintendo Switch for this and Bayonetta 3 :)

[@somebadbatter]

Im betting all my Money that These "im gonna Emulate it in 4k comments If it stays nintendo exclusive" commentors wouldnt even thinking of supporting a official Steam release

[@Nanobit84]

Bayo 3 hype in October!!!

[@RhythmGrizz]

It's out today!! 😃

[@adam145]

99% of the comments: "I'll wait for this game to release on PC (emulator) so that I can play (download a ROM) it in 4k! (although my shitty 500$ PC will probably play it at 30 frames at 720, but PCMasTerRacE hohoho)"

[@biggy9619]

Nice strawman, totally not overexaggerating or anything.

[@andrewskaterrr]

I’ll be waiting with my physical copy that I already played on Wii U with my expensive rig, as my I’m not going to rebuy it for my Switch and have framedrops

[@NexGenTek]

Lmao

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

don't forgot the PS4 EXCLUSIVES comment

[@KP-48-007]

But it is on pc

[@tipoomaster]

It seems like they just didn't target docked mode at all, no changes from portable. That's unfortunate, most games can do 900p docked where they're 720p undocked, or at least crank the AF or something.

[@victhom19]

I can only remember about two cases in the wiiu version where the frame rate drop was really noticeable. - when she fights belief with Jeanne and when she is with Rosa near the lava. Otherwise I barely noticed and it didn’t impact my enjoyment of the game at all. But good to hear the Switch version has improvements

[@519MaLoNeY]

@1:42 This is AMAZING to hear for us Switch Life owners!!

[@jaguar4120]

I love Bayonetta. I can't wait for Bayonetta 3. ❤😍🥰🥳

[@joshxx1]

i didn't notest the framedrops on the Wii U because i was so entertained playing an awesome game, and yes maybe it has some drops but i grew up in the darker times of snes or nes frame drops.

[@KarimErrytouny]

Hi John, Can you please review Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time on the PS3, it's an excellent technical achievement from a very unknown studio. It runs on a silky smooth 60fps and its graphical qualities never fail to impress. Can we please shed some light on the tech behind it. Thanks a lot for your awesome efforts. I enjoy your analyses.

[@TheGamePhilter]

Still have the Wii U and this game digitally, never noticed a problem with framerates while playing, I beat the game and it is one of my favorites from the Wii U era.

[@jjtheenton]

No issues with the lack of increase in native resolution. That can only mean it performs better (theoretically), which is what's most important in a game like this.

[@حيدر-ص8ر7ر]

Thank you DigitalFoundry keep it up your analysis are really good:D

[@wii166]

As always Switch is an amazing gaming handheld but a mediocre console i still enjoy mine but when i plug it in my TV it does feel last gen but when i play it in handheld its amazing. Hopefully Nintendo upgrades the screen to OLED in future revisions a nice way to make the graphics look better on screen

[@cpt.zangscarlet1898]

Your wish has been granted.

[@DenzNoble]

Thanks Sony and Micro for not investing in this series :)))))))), now they are Nintendo exclusives :/

[@mistergremm735]

DenzNoble it's actually sega's fault for not funding the sequel anymore, now they just own the ip and publish it

[@AnitaHanjaabFR]

And significantly worse because of it

[@DiePoente]

lol, gorgeous and Para soul, be happy that this game is made in the first place. Same with Bayonetta 3. Take your complaining and push it to Sega, Sony and Microsoft. Platinum Games have said in interviews that after Sega cancelling the second game, they went STRAIGHT to Sony and Microsoft! And they both turned them down. Nintendo was the only one willing to fund Bayo 2. And the same with Bayo 3. Be happy that these get made at all, rather than not getting anything.

[@Xshinobi2k8]

Blame Sega, didn't they care to fund a sequel. I would much rather have the series continue with Nintendo's funding than not have it continue at all.

[@goofed86]

Meh Xbox One has Bayonetta backwards compatible which is the best one so there's no need for them to invest in the franchise.

[@Vulcanfaux]

That's pretty much the main reason I wanted this on the switch. It's a great game that more people needed to play. And as much as I love my wii u. It's unfortunate it sold poorly making the amount of people who could play this very limited. I'll say it again. The wii u had a pretty damn good collection of games that are easily among the best. Those games only did poorly because the wii u sold poorly. Glad to see Nintendo fixed that with how well the switch is doing. Personally though I'm waiting on dark souls remastered. I need it so I can finally play the artorias of the abyss dlc. I know PC.. Or ps4 would be a better option. But portable dark souls beats the rest for me. No contest.

[@Mario-119]

I was waiting for this, thanks guys!

[@christopherjordan7777]

For people complaining don,t buy it its that simple but no PC master race and console fanboys flock to hate on the switch (eww its 720p in 2018 wtf) If you want 100 fps and 4k resolutions blow 1000 dollars on a PC last time i checked ps4 pro and xbox one x can,t do 4k 60fps. Consoles were always made for a budget PC experience so if i see another xbox one x fanboy or ps4 pro fanboy like wow switch can,t do 1080p 60fps here,s what i say to you Xbox one X and ps4 pro fanboys PC beats you in every way possible so why are you talking and they can,t do 60fps 4k hell the ps4 pro is a 1440p machine. This port is for the people who didn,t get a wii u which not much people did so its a way to get money out of the franchise while also letting new people experience this classic.

[@sethshiro3487]

Christopher Jordan awww.. PC gamers always back us up, the switch users. Tq.

[@Bigray73]

Christopher Jordan yes you my friend get it

[@StateOfTheMind11225]

seth shiro i guess choice doesnt matter then, pc vs console and console wars are dumb. everyone forcing choices on their throats other than thinking for themselves. america is truly the pc master race country but in other parts of the world its so hard to get pc parts and they are usually overpriced af and you know... miners.

[@cookieface80]

Don't buy it, play it on Cemu lmao

[@yates198x7]

People "want" to play this game, then Nintendo helps to publish this game. Now people want to play this game on the PC using the cemu? If you can't support this game, then at least don't steal it.

[@janmarcoperezbatres2203]

Yeah, people actually being proud of using emulators to play games makes me sad.

[@jriibzmodus4792]

Jan Marco Perez Batres very sad

[@Oshadorin]

When they'll release every game on PC, we will stop using emulators. The fact that we can't buy and play them on PC, gives us the right to emulate them. None the less games on Wii and Switch look like shit right now because of the potato hardware, but it will look like that forever. Whereas on PC, the look of the game will scale with monitors and hardware.

[@ChristopherToro]

Nintendo published it, then ppl wanted to play it, but didn't want to buy a WiiU. You can't hold it against them if they didn't support a widely unpopular platform. I supported it, but at least I realized I was in the minority. It's on Switch now, because ppl didnt get a chance to play it, because of said facts.

[@3dmarth]

Believe it or not, some people actually buy games and then emulate them!

[@desertcamel5473]

For Pc users just buy the Wii U version to support the developers at least and then emulate it. I am seeing some stupid comments here from both sides.

[@bigz4349]

Desertcamel Let's be honest. People who use Cemu aren't doing so to support the actual developers. None of them are actually going to go buy this game.

[@PurushNahiMahaPurush]

9/10 times, emulation = piracy. I've been there before so I know.

[@mrratchet]

720p docked is disappointing. I would have at least expected 900p minimum.

[@pcgameboy8407]

I rather 720p 55-60, than 900p or 1080p 30-50fps.

[@mrratchet]

They should at least be able to push the resolution up whilst maintaining the framerate. The Switch has the GPU horsepower over the Wii U so it's disappointing for users who prefer to use docked mode. 900p60fps is what i'd expect minimum.

[@pcgameboy8407]

Maybe so, probably could of been optimized more too, but it is what it is. I accept console don't have the amount of choices PC has a long time ago.. You just gotta deal with whatever the developers do.

[@mrratchet]

There's still time to improve or retroactively improve it like Rocket League, though as I said, it's just disappointing that they haven't as of this video been able to improve the game at all outside of stability.

[@Mucrush]

If you watched the video, you'll know why they kept it at 720p. Unless you'd rather have same problems as Wii U did...

[@DaveGaming]

I still hope for a PC version. Bayonetta 1 in 4k60 was a whole new experience, same as Vanquish. Nevertheless: Really looking forward for the Switch version first.

[@JoVERICAIN]

Dave Gaming ok... Hoping this game to be released on PC is like waiting for mario odyssey on PC... Just saying...

[@izanagi1458]

Nintendo funded and published this game. Bayonetta's director said that it was as likely to come to PC as Mario or Zelda... :(

[@domdon950]

Dave Gaming there is a PC ver Emulation

[@CEV1999]

Just download Cemu and play Bayonetta 2 in 4k 60fps.

[@gavin.l4440]

Jo VERICAIN then atleast buy the game frist so you do not look like a pirate

[@Hazemann]

I'm more to handheld mode gameplay, so this is day 1 for me...I like this so much

[@anjobanjo5643]

This game is 720? It looks amazing!

[@malikgod]

your not talking visuals are you?

[@sameold23]

I barely even noticed the frame drops because I was enjoying the game so much to even care. The game’s action is non stop.

[@Cae_the_Kitsune]

I've kind of wondered whether Wii U games would see any performance boost from playing with the pro controller (or Wii remote if supported) with the gamepad completely disconnected, potentially alleviating a minor additional rendering load (roughly 31% of the pixel output in a 720p game, albeit usually always entirely 2D elements). Maybe 2018 is a bit late to be asking that question, but I'd certainly be interested.

[@3dmarth]

It would be interesting to see a no-Gamepad hack in action, to confirm (or disprove) that. I'm inclined to think that the second screen takes an insignificant amount of GPU time to render, but I could be wrong. And of course, games like Star Fox Zero put a heavy load on the system by rendering two different 3-D views at 60fps!

[@Ghostsonplanets]

Cae Herlin To see that, It would be need to code the game to use more power avaidable when a gamepad wasn't in use. But yes, the Gamepad was a CPU bottleneck.

[@Poever]

Tropical Freeze when playing on the TV was a prime example. The GamePad screen was off entirely.

[@3dmarth]

Matheus Viana Yes, you'd have to code the game to ignore the Gamepad and not send it any video, but that's all it would take. Games like Bayonetta 2 are already programmed to use as much power as they can get, at least until they can maintain 60fps. Similarly, if the Wii U could be overclocked, it would automatically improve Bayonetta, no coding or hacks needed!

[@NinteSegaRarew]

I'm so excited the first and second Bayonetta games are getting ported on the Nintendo Switch and I'm definitely looking forward to the third one! :D

[@huntingbreaker9978]

I decided to get a Switch mostly just for this game and its sequel.

[@bloodstone1992]

Better add Astral Chain to that list because it's another great game made by Platinum games

[@jaguar4120]

@@bloodstone1992 I absolutely agree great game. Plus Bayonetta 3 is coming soon in the near future.

[@RhythmGrizz]

Today's the day! Bayo 3 is REAL

[@christianr.5868]

Figured this was the case since I found out docked mode was 720p. Still excited for these as they look a lot smoother than Wii U. But now Bayonetta 3 performance issues are practically guaranteed. Probably around the way Bayonetta 2 performed on Wii U originally. I suspect they’ll release it around the same time as an upgraded switch, for an option of better performance. That is if 3 comes out in late 2019 or so

[@Markchadsend]

Inb4 cancerous comments

[@SemiZeroGravity]

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[@artoriasoftheabyss1575]

SemiZeroGravity I got you my boy

[@spookyghost7524]

too late you fail

[@Markchadsend]

John W2008 No u

[@Kimarnic]

CEMU > Wii U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Cruznick06]

I love that Nintendo actually picked up the Bayonetta franchise and has not dropped it since. They're who keep funding the games so I get why they aren't allowing it on other consoles. It would be nice to have a PC port for Bayonetta 2 after 3 comes out. Keep the newest games Nintendo exclusive.

[@biggiejerseysTV]

My only issue with this Switch port is that it’s being released as 2 cart package. Meanwhile the collector’s edition in Japan has both games on separate carts and you don’t have to download one of the games. Smh.

[@peebow1000]

Fair to say I think that WiiU ports are disadvantaged on Switch. One major strength of Switch over WiiU is triple the effective available RAM. But Bayo2 wouldn't have been programmed with that in mind, now they still probably use most the extra RAM for frame buffering etc.., but a game built from ground up can take proper advantage of the extra RAM and introduce a larger variety of textures etc.., for more varied visual flair. Compare XenoChron to XC2.. XC1 looked great but environments employed rather a very singular look to each. XC2 colour pallettes, animations and variety within individual environments are greater

[@Seyanhyriu]

I had no performance issues on the Wii U. Or maybe i had but the game is so good and the combat so fast that i didn't notice...

[@EbolaGW]

Brunno Mendes That.

[@joshxx1]

the same here, i didn't notest the framedrops because i was so entertained playing an awesome game.

[@yeahyukerson4511]

that is exactly how I felt to. I was surprised to see the dips because I don't remember ever feeling it.

[@lordvelvetice]

As always you guys are the best!!!

[@hjames78]

I don't know if this is because I'm old (not really, I'm in my 30s) but I don't see that much of a difference and I don't see pixels in any version..........i don't know the game looked great on the Wii u i never noticed a slow down. People these days with the nitpicking the game is fine on the Wii u. I don't get why some people nitpick over these graphics these days but that's just me

[@CaptViewtiful98]

Improved performance is all I'm asking for this port and thankfully that's the case.

[@warpio]

Seems like I should just keep my WiiU version. The framerate improvement doesn't seem like a big enough deal to double dip on this imo

[@3dmarth]

This video validates my Wii U purchase, so I'm happy. :P

[@dariusq8894]

I'm satisfied with simple ports for now knowing full well that a dedicated sequel is coming. This is the kind of series where I'd want all the games on the same system anyways.

[@cinemamadness6920]

Video title: Improved over the Wii U Actual video: No major difference

[@mathgod3015]

Performance increase matters for a 60fps action game, especially when Wii U hovered around 40/45 fps at times And 6 years ago portable bayonetta was a big deal

[@GameplayandTalk]

It's nice to see there are performance increases on the Switch version. I am curious to see how other Wii U games fare when they inevitably make the jump to the Switch.

[@icetrey8662]

It's funny watching the idiots that think graphics make a game fun. They don't care that the game sucks, just give them 4k visuals with 60 fps. It's fun to look at but why aren't they ever playing them? They'd rather come to a video about Nintendo, a company that puts gameplay before visuals, and comment on how weak their tablet is. Why don't you go stare at the grass in your game?

[@TheTomo910]

Aat B someone with a brain. Finally

[@ManuelKoegler]

Aat B people conveniently forget that it’s a portable system or say that they “don’t care”. Well fine then, switch doesn’t appeal to you, there are plenty alternatives in that case so stop bitching.

[@zorroknowsbetter]

We want games that look great and play great. Why do the two have to be mutually exclusive? Mario Odyssey looks great and plays great and we all praised it.

[@ManuelKoegler]

City Fox Mario Odyssey is first party by Nintendo developed for switch, it also didn’t come without compromises (720i in portable mode, distant objects render at 30 fps, etc.). Bayonetta 2 is a last gen port by 3rd party, runs better but not perfect.

[@goofed86]

When they are selling 10 year old hardware for the same as a PS4 Pro and Xbox One S there's a problem and you'd have to be a complete moron to buy a Nintendo Switch for that price on that principal alone.

[@SaltymanGaming]

After playing Jeanne for a while the framerate and input lag become very noticeable on the Wii U.. There was a few parts where it was just impossible to consistently Moth Within.

[@MrPod]

I never had framerate and lag problems on the wii u with bayonetta 2

[@JM_Traslo]

Seems really odd that it can do so much in handheld and then docked sees so little of an upgrade. Surely even a dynamic res to let us see how well it holds would be interesting.

[@JesusF7]

It’s because all it does when it goes docked is that in creases the GPU clocks by 40%. I’m sure the chip could do better, but at the end of the day it comes down to thermal limitations with the Nintendo Switch

[@FatBot]

Really happy to see more stable performance than the Wii U. I think that's the most important thing anyway. But some more obvious visual enhancements would have been nice, even just a little bit of AA.

[@Olamellamoalex]

Bayonetta 2 already felt very smooth on WiiU, it had better framerate than most Ps4/XBO big games

[@dark1x]

Goodnightmoon In terms of hard numbers, no, it does not. Absolutely not. It’s a great game but the frame-rate is very unsteady. That’s just the reality.

[@3dmarth]

@John Linneman You may personally prefer a steady 30fps over 45-55, but that doesn't make 30fps objectively better. As far as hard numbers go, Bayonetta 2 still has an advantage. 50 frames is more than 30, after all. ;)

[@3dmarth]

It was pretty noticeably rough in some combat scenes, but still not too bad overall. I still prefer it over the strobing/blurry look of 30fps.

[@agentfrost7823]

I really hope they improve the performance in patches when the game launch.

[@tisssyyy]

... i hate inconsistent frame rates, just lock it at 30 i'd rather have a solid 30 than a 40-60 inconsistent mess.

[@nintendosgamer2613]

This is the worst take ever

[@agentfrost7823]

Never had a chance to play Bayonetta, can't wait for the release, the game looks amazing.

[@ayush1713]

Can't wait missed on wii u now will play on the go

[@pinoi78]

MIssed out on the Wii U version...will definiely buy for the Switch.

[@maegnificant]

they never did that full analysis

[@jaguar4120]

They got lazy!

[@Doc_Valparaiso]

Just like the "New 3DS' I absolutely think there will be a new Switch releasing in the next few years. The current Switch will probably just be referred to as the Switch 2017 model. I really wouldn't hold my breath for a 1080p screen. But, games like this will at least run at a locked 60fps. And, I see battery life being improved a great deal too.

[@AldenBunagCDAD]

They likely will never go for a 1080p screen, not only to save money on the screen but just to ensure higher performance in handheld mode.

[@littlegloom]

Not happening this year

[@thebahooplamaster]

Oh yes. I’m gonna love these barely better textures when I purchase this game.

[@DiePoente]

It's a port. Do you know what that is?

[@spiax]

knimren quiet pleb, it's a 60 dollar price tag.

[@aryangarg4576]

spiax With both the games.

[@davidboublil]

On the other hand, it's a Digital Foundry video, what kind of comments did you expect?

[@glorious720p_2]

Ioannis Stefanakis yeah, but the Switch version is superior when it comes to performance and it’s portable too, why would you buy two games for two separate systems to actively avoid the better versions? Lmao

[@balladstar]

I played through Bayonetta 2 twice on Wii U and never notice these performance issues that they keep on bringing up.

[@jaguar4120]

Same here. 🙄

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Man, this game really does look better than the original. This could pass for a ps4/xone title.

[@gringoamigo8146]

...... uh wut?

[@christianr.5868]

Yeah, it has better art direction than nier

[@TheSpaceking12]

So a pretty huge improvement on the technical side. Feels a hell of a lot better to play. Still not perfect, but but 10-20 FPS faster on average is very noticeable

[@cybertrongaming4007]

I disagree bayonetta 2 on the wii u looks awesome it also looks awesome on the switch too

[@SuperForRealsWiiGamr]

I'm happy this is coming to the Switch, but I would really love to play this at a higher resolution.

[@WorsePoke]

Doug V. Bayo 1: PC. Bayo 2: Bad Luck

[@SuperForRealsWiiGamr]

iPokeboy I do own the first one on the pc. 4k 60fps!

[@graalcloud]

You guys are talking about Bayonetta 2 for the Wii U like it wasn't the best action game of all time. Did you even play it?

[@dark1x]

John Redcorn who do you think you’re talking to? I’m happy to share a screenshot of my completed save file if you so desire. Why do you think the Wii U weapons load-out is so different from default? It’s a great game and, yes, I’ve obviously finished it.

[@graalcloud]

lmao decent shitpost

[@khaosbydesignuk946]

Before the 4th one comes out we need the Metroid Prime trilogy on Switch, a portable full Metroid Prime game would be awesome

[@bellebuster5057]

Yeah... the Wii U tablet was also 720p and ran at 60fps during actual gameplay most of the time, and just as you guys said there were drops but the game wasn't anywhere near a pain or insufferable for it. But the Switch version is /slightly/ better and you get more views for hyping the Switch so it's understandable since most who would agree with you never owned a Wii U or will just claim they had one since it's the internet... Either way I'm buying Bayo 2 again, I played it all over the house with the Wii U tablet, now I can play it... somewhere else with the Switch. I don't care if it's sixty again, It's worth it.

[@pikaplayzhd595]

actually the Wii U tablet isn't 720p, it's 480p

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Cheshire Hat Haha, was nowhere near 720.

[@TruExtentChannel]

I thought the GamePad screen was 540p EDIT: No it's 480p as was said

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

TruExtent 540p was the Vita.

[@ChristopherToro]

Nah, the WiiU tablet is 480p, google it. I had the WiiU version, it ran fine, The Switch version looks just as good if not slighly better, with full range color as well.

[@XuPangLoo]

Just speaking of pixels and power, the game is gold.

[@RipanDutta1992]

analyze final fantasy xv benchmark on pc

[@DamedaZenZenDameda]

why? its a mess + when the game launches you can customize the settings.

[@josh223]

Ripan Dutta look at gamers nexus coverage, the benchmark isnt going to be represenitive of the actual game.. unless the game is horribly unoptimized

[@TheAustin007powers]

Garbage game

[@sabmu757]

Austin Howell I enjoyed it............

[@vocaloidsubita]

So good game but so bad optimization.

[@thefcw]

very happy to see that it runs better than the Wii U version in handheld mode, since that's pretty much the only way I play my Switch. I figured it may be a locked 30fps in handheld, which would suck

[@evilashxero]

Let's get W101 on the Switch.

[@kphs9083]

Wonderful101 or Wizard101 lol

[@Jdawg8811]

Lookin forward to playing these games finally. They look great!

[@tedahwooga]

Does anyone else think that Nintendo df videos are pointless? If someone cares about graphics they are certainly not buying Nintendo consoles

[@miakelm]

good point

[@MerryBlind]

On the contrary, Nintendo games are usually very interesting graphically. They're not necessarily cutting-edge, but the graphics are usually very well made and balanced in terms of assets quality, draw distance, etc. Their games are also generally very well optimized. Just because they're not 4K and are on weaker hardware doesn't make them less interesting.

[@Melkiah34]

When 4k was really new I bought a budget 4k TV for 350 dollars, a sieki 50" 4k 30hz, the panel was not that great, but I also bought their 4k hdmi upscaler Cable, and for switch games, or any game that runs lower than 1080p it makes a night and day difference. I also like to use it for my Xbox 360 games like red dead, and for my retro consoles that are hooked up to the framemiester mini, you just have to turn the sharpness to neutral on your TV. I think you guys should try it out, it was 50 dollars on Amazon, totally worth it.

[@SolarAutumn]

i mean if it stays over 30 fps most the time i'm fine with it

[@MagicSpartan1992]

A smoother and portable experience is all I want and since there able to do that, I'm happy

[@xyzYAZEEDxyz]

Can't wait for the PC port begging lol

[@dsidsidsi1000]

xyzYAZEEDxyz Cemu

[@StupidMAN-fh8ch]

Cemu is trash. It’s got a long ways to go to be good emulation

[@Charles-hy6gp]

wont happen, Nintendo own Bayonetta now, it wasnt by Nintendo, Bayonetta 2 wouldnt exist

[@mikestockdale808]

These ports do raise questions on just how much farther Platinum can push the Switch with Bayonetta 3. Platinum loves to use a lot of post particle effects that are very taxing on memory bandwidth, and that is a weak point for the Tegra X1. I would think there is a good chance that Bayonetta 3 will also be 720p.

[@jaguar4120]

They just showed gameplay of Bayonetta 3.