Cyberpunk 2077: PS4 vs PS4 Pro Frame-Rate Tests - Can Consoles Run Cyberpunk?

[@sirskeletor7931]

On base consoles it's called "Cyberpunk 2007"

[@Slynell1]

LOOOOOOL. underrated comment

[@amnril]

Steampunk 1877

[@shroomie4737]

Cyberpunk 20.77 fps

[@Slycoomer56]

More like 1997

[@serfillustrated4018]

2076

[@mxlevolent]

"coverage will take a while to get out" two videos, same day - excellent choice made to underpromise and overperform

[@MCplayer94]

"coverage will take a while to get out" two videos, same day - excellent choice made to underpromise and overperform

[@fenix_tx_1342]

"coverage will take a while to get out" two videos, same day - excellent choice made to underpromise and overperform

[@antwango]

the Cerny Effect!!! Hmmmm did Cerny really pay off DF????!!! XD Haha I kid i kid, 2 vids within the hour!!! The thirst is definitely real!!! There seems to be more odd random channels doing their own dodgy comparison ripoff vids! Now I can't wait for the XBX S version and the eventual switch version XD!!!! running cell shaded...

[@randombrit13]

Certainly different from what CDPR did Even if the game is perfect the delays are definitely underperforming

[@callum6224]

@@randombrit13 the delays?

[@Anishrokport]

You know its bad when they start the performance review with “It’s interesting”

[@kristianandreasboban2358]

True! The word "Interesting" has also always been "Hollywood-Slang" for when you don't like a Movie/Show but you want to be nice.

[@Theo-io4jf]

Or "fascinating"

[@gracecalis5421]

"The game runs surprisingly well" is what they said. What they meant was "The game runs, surprisingly. Well..."

[@Hellodude-el1sp]

At launch it was 15 fps on base ps4 and 20 on ps4 pro lmao

[@jayezy8768]

Great, the game is finally out and it hardly runs on last gen and you can't get current gen. Exactly how I expected 2020 to end.

[@nf5011]

we should have seen this coming to be honest haha

[@iNFaunTae]

@@nf5011 its how it should be for such an ambitious game. Thats how gta 5 was

[@rigatonithetiger9986]

@@iNFaunTae GTA V on 360/PS3 was nothing close to this. Sure it had issues, but it still ran at a level that blew people away, especially given that we assumed there wasn’t going to be a next-Gen version or a PC version for a while. If GTA V and The Last of Us are technical swan songs for 7th Gen consoles, Cyberpunk 2077 is a wet shart for 8th Gen

[@MrSlashtf2]

Just get a PC bro 😏

[@toolshedvideo]

@@iNFaunTae It makes me throw up in my mouth every time I see someone trying to excuse the problems because of "ambition". Could you fall any harder for their marketing campaign? There's NOTHING ambitious about this game. The tutorials alone prove that, as they walk you through the same mechanics we've been seeing in literally hundreds of games over the past decade. Wow! Stealth takedowns and hiding bodies! Driving in wonky vehicles to a map marker and having to follow on screen orders! WOW-EE! Skill trees that offer nothing but incremental power ups! Hold the phones! The innovation might melt my face off!

[@sj0nnie]

Lastgen has corona lockdown measures. Almost no npc outside.

[@yourcrapp]

Off course its basically running the ps4/xbox one versions. personally im gonna wait for the next gen versions before i buy this game,

[@cheesyspace]

@@yourcrapp i m on series x and there are many npcs around imo.

[@misterfields87]

@@yourcrapp don’t support them get a different game please make a stand them damn kids won’t 😭

[@sjc-xc5id]

It doesn't seem too be much different on PC even with crowd density on high. It's a shame, the city looked so alive in the 2018 demo but the retail version doesn't even come close to matching it. Hopefully it's something they can address with updates down the road

[@Evilnicko]

Let's see Paul Allen's benchmarks

[@LB14745]

Company president and joint-CEO, Adam Kicinski, fielded one such question. “Of course, [the performance is] a bit lower than on pros, but surprisingly good, I would say, for such a huge world,” Kicinski revealed. “So, bit lower, but very good. That’s the answer.” “And on both - I mean, PS5 is great. PS4 is still very good. I mean, we had those extra three weeks and we achieved a lot by - within this final stretch. So, we believe that the game is performing great on every platform. Of course, accordingly to platform capabilities, but not every platform should be great.” This guy should be a politician, he would do very well.

[@trippybruh1592]

Sounds like a true corpo lol

[@toolshedvideo]

That's... quite the bit of mental gymnastics he's making there. "Performamce is great, but not great". Wow

[@vasilije94]

Dude is just being honest. No offense to all console players but base consoles are garbage by todays standards of hardware. And you expect them to run the best graphics of 2020 at 4k 60fps? I am glad that we PC players for once got a game that is PC first and not some port from consoles. Personally i think they would be better with not releasing the game on base consoles at all but there are probably complications with sony and microsoft. I doubt they would be happy with them not releasing on base ps4 and releasing on ps4 pro because both are "same" gen when in reality they are not. This is what happens when you start releasing several console with different power and calling them same gen. This will probably happen in the future as well with new xbox console being that one is a lot weaker so when the next gen comes the s will struggle as much as ps4 is now. So yea, its a shitty but honest take on the situation.

[@tikz.-3738]

K kid keep dreaming the fact that this game can even run at 10+ fps on shit consoles is alot fucking pesants always want performance from 19s hardware

[@lasarousi]

His verbatim never suggested good performance on the old hardware, if anything he is surprised it even runs in the ps4 More than him being a politician people should stop filling the blanks with their own thoughts and resolutions. This is a blanket statement for idiots to misinterpret, and here you are.

[@stmayhem1]

I can't go back playing Doom Eternal after this... frame rates on Doom make me cry they're so smooth...

[@terrydactyl2077]

Yeah DE and maybe it’s gsync as well. But yes. Sooooo buttery

[@venkatkrishna8278]

@@terrydactyl2077 ikr

[@mastodonseven]

@@terrydactyl2077 You can use G-sync on any game as long as you are using a PC with an Nvidia GPU and a monitor with the hardware to support it

[@terrydactyl2077]

@@foff3554 yeah I use vrr which is the same gsync

[@foff3554]

@@terrydactyl2077 G synch and free sync are where created to help make the game a bit smoother when/if the game is running below the monitors native refresh rate. G sync is not a high performance feature it's to make games smoother at low framerates.

[@viniciusrodrigues1689]

Oh man, I was at class when one of my students told me that he is playing it on the original xbox one, I said, "oh cool." Now that I learnt the situation, I will give him my condolences on my next class.

[@L4Disillusion]

Don't be a bully SAMURAI

[@100silencer]

Wake up Samurai we have a Student to burn

[@aks19880]

Wow i wish I had a teacher who was as cool as you and discuss gaming with him/her

[@100silencer]

@@aks19880 imagine getting roasted By your teacher 😆 But Yeah they couldnt relate at all in my shool years

[@maxbrown9391]

Send my best wishes to your friend in these hard times.

[@traceyates1506]

You know it’s bad when DF says “my god”

[@supersbbrawl4ever]

Timestamp?

[@zummone]

Most egregiously when it's Tom, since he's the most composed out of all of them.

[@jakimson1994]

10:30

[@JosueCorella]

I'm not buying this game, I feel so disappointed

[@Dreadpirateflappy]

@@JosueCorella works fine on decent platforms.

[@Timtayy]

And this game was supposed to be released in May for Ps4. Just think about that for a second..

[@mura-moto]

That's the exact time they said: ''fuck it, pnly next-gen and pc... fuck the original intended consoles we had in mind''

[@hellclaimer3215]

I think thats why they kept delaying it and now its out with the next gen consoles

[@02alphazero37]

this game originally for designed for next gen dude just look how beautiful graphics and gameplay is. And hilarious is people impatient about this game to be released And the result was so bad even unplayable on console This is first time unhyped and unfun game at same time

[@02alphazero37]

I'm getting unfun about the people because so many complain and even in day one.

[@kinluke]

@@02alphazero37 i dont think it was originally planned for next gen. So dont get ahead of yourself. It's initial release dates for example. The PS5 / XBOX One X would not even have come out at that time. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to realise that. So imagine how messy it would have been considering how lackluster the performance on last gen consoles is.

[@joshb3024]

The excuse that the ps5 is out is bs, this game was supposed to come out in May well before ps5

[@CJ-rf9jm]

Also announced in 2012 well before PS4 n Xbox1 both hit the streets.

[@TheFIlthy420]

@humandxp what?

[@TheFIlthy420]

@humandxp I have a PC.. was just trying to see what you meant didn't really understand what you were trying to say

[@acedetective6350]

@@TheFIlthy420 I honestly have no clue either

[@gureguru4694]

PS5 version doesn't even exist yet. its PS4 with more processing power mode. CDPR. incompetent pieces of shit.

[@Redemption-64]

The fact that CD project red refused to send out reviews codes for consoles and restricting reviewers from even showing their own gameplay, tells me they knew how bad this was on consoles and still released it, with only the PC reviews out. Am truly disappointed in them for deceiving their fans on consoles but what's i find depressing is how some people are still defending this. I will bet my whole life savings, if this was done by EA, Activision, or Ubisoft many more people will be going after them. CD project needs to be called out for this, like we would for other developers. And yes, I got this on PS4

[@thanos2399]

Yes It’s not the fact that it runs horrible on base consoles, but the fact that they tried to hide it...they lost my trust forever. Shame on CDPR.

[@Clay3613]

Every time they delayed, people on social media freaked out.

[@Archivist42]

CDPR had our trust, which in the gaming industry is incredibly rare. If they can get the patches out quickly maybe they can redeem themselves

[@Doopsums]

I mean you guys are complaining about your 7 year old hardware not being able to handle a cutting edge game that pushes the graphical limit of what's possible in today's video games. I don't know what you guys were expecting but I think you should start with getting a reality check. Thank your consol selves for being okay with 30 fps for decades.

[@dirtygore]

Did you really think it was going to run well on base consoles 😂. Runs fine on my PS5 by the way.

[@MrInvinciblewarrior]

Cant wait for the switch version, going down to og doom resolution

[@THECOOKIEMONSTA2025]

Agreed gonna be 600p upscaling to 720p lol.

[@Xfighter000]

Its going to look like the OG Deus Ex

[@danielz-v4083]

Switch version will be powerpoint slideshow

[@danielhinchliffe2370]

@@Xfighter000 the OG Deus Ex needs a remaster....

[@archetype6351]

@@THECOOKIEMONSTA2025 That's far too optimistic. Supposedly Xbox One is already 500p-720p. On the Switch we would be seeing Ark numbers.

[@tayyabhussain4527]

WAKE UP SAMURAI, WE'VE GOT SOME FRAMES TO BURN

[@CyborgSodaCollects]

Definitely...have you seen the xbox one version?

[@emmanuel607]

Lmao 😭😭

[@lucaseduardo2776]

Yes hahaha

[@j.j.9511]

Wake up Samurai! We've got some goodwill to burn! - CDPR

[@thanos2399]

It’s not the fact that it runs horrible on base consoles, but the fact that they tried to hide it...they lost my trust forever. Shame on CDPR.

[@MrMarkTheBeastMemes99]

"Wake the F... Actually go back to sleep samurai, the city isn't rendered yet"

[@LexisLodge]

Wake the Fuck up samurai, we got a whole city to render

[@Zyla4653]

Took me a while to get it 🤣

[@WreckerALeX]

yawn...Old comment

[@xgas.hurried9894]

@@LexisLodge 💀

[@GENKI_INU]

Judge: "How do you plead?" Thomas: "Because of the low framerate, I ACCIDENTALLY ran over a bunch of NPCs"

[@write2nick]

Twice!

[@deanwendorf598]

Judge: Understandable, 60 hrs community service!

[@kuroinova2056]

Maybe even a 3rd and more times with console videos to come for xboxes and next gen

[@TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube]

For the Players....

[@smothermeinbaconbaby9083]

"Sir; you have provided this court with the most convincing defense I have ever seen. I will absolve all your responsibility for your mistakes and refund your 60 hard earned bucks."

[@Jaerb4]

We shouldn't beat around the bush on it: it seems pretty unethical that CDPR didn't give out early console codes or let reviewers use their own footage until release.

[@MartinLabuschin]

Just don't pre-order and wait for reviews. No problem.

[@backwardsymbol9538]

@@MartinLabuschin no correlation with the comment u r replying too

[@tikz.-3738]

Early console review is bullshit we all know they are super outdated pc first coz it can run and show its beauty

[@Behemothius]

Yes. They have unfortunately become like every other AAA studio. Lot of goodwill lost with this move.

[@vincenthudon1520]

I can't wait for the multiplayer component and «ethical microtransactions» they announced a year ago.

[@張彥暉-v8p]

People say that there may be a switch version like witcher 3. Look at the base ps4 version...... I think we already get switch version lol.

[@Jacksong620]

It'll prob release at a similar state on Nintendos next console. Either way it ain't looking good

[@erasmobellumat3973]

The Witcher 3 on Switch runs way better than that.

[@MysteryMii]

I guarantee you that a Cyberpunk port will be exclusive to the inevitable Switch Pro.

[@canman87]

There's absolutely no shot of any level of playable release on Switch. Switch "Pro" or whatever it ends up being is going to have to bring the heat relative to what the base Switch is capable of to even have a puncher's chance.

[@clickbait3753]

The sad thing is if you look at doom eternal on switch you can see how good games can run on underpowered hardware if devs put effort into optimization

[@Bruh_Bruh_Bacon]

"It runs surprisingly well on PS4 and Xbox one" - Adam Kaciński ( CEO of CDPR)

[@Teofilakt_Einterteinment]

*Adam Kiciński*

[@SirSpoof254]

It's surprising that it even runs at all on such shitty hardware

[@Bruh_Bruh_Bacon]

@@SirSpoof254 well then don't sell the game on that hardware and if you do then people are gonna criticise you for giving them a bad experience.

[@zakt2464]

@@SirSpoof254 SHUT UP WITH THESE AWFUL EXCUSES

[@mjm3091]

@@zakt2464 someone is pressed as if someone killed their grandma 🤣

[@colinsiu123]

I stop playing after I walked out of the bathroom. The trees, the people and the buildings, everything looks horrible. I just finished playing rdr2 and ghost of Tsushima, I wasn't expecting this.

[@DarthAndre24]

same. I put it up for sale already. Fucking atrocious. It really looks like a Switch port.

[@Raptorclawz]

CD Red project are shit at optimization.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Thanks for beta testing this for me, appreciate you 👍

[@DarthAndre24]

@@guybrushthreepwood8174 bro :'( I preordered the day they released the PS4 pro gameplay trailer.

[@_gokceada]

@@Raptorclawz they are actually gods at it. Ironically

[@klebercarvalho7219]

Remember: When this game was supposed to come out the PS5 wasn't even showed yet

[@DarkSharingan21]

Yh.. which is weird. I think I see why they delayed it a bunch of times - it was for us to get to next-gen.

[@Mycrosss]

With all the delays it was the right choice to upgrade the graphics each time. Imagine if they made the game for ps4 8 years later lmao, that wouldve been a horrid choice

[@BIadelores]

When this game was announced the PS4 didn't exist at all

[@archetype6351]

When this game was announced the PS3 was still current gen.

[@jamesaparicio1523]

Which makes it even worse as it was meant to be a last gen game. CDPR fucked up but its no surprise after The Witcher games.

[@yc_030]

Game was announced before PS4/XB1 launched Game was marketed as a PS4/XB1 title Game was supposed to launch well before PS5/XSX did Fanboys: "your fault for thinking it could run on old hardware"

[@soulfire6906]

They r morons. I'm playing it now on base ps4, and it's honestly the worst looking ps4 game I've ever played. It's so blur it looks like a crayon painting. A lot of the environment assets and textures are even ps2 level. Fanboys saying this game has so much going on and is too big for the ps4 to handle but I seriously don't see what exactly big is this game doing that is beyond ps4 capabilities? How is this game more advance than witcher 3? It's just like any other open world game but ends up looking way worse than everything else. And I'm not even mentioning all the damn glitches, bugs and crashes yet.

[@floppa_9530]

@@soulfire6906 "your fault for thinking it could run on old hardware"

[@soulfire6906]

@@floppa_9530 hence fanboy

[@mokurai8233]

@@soulfire6906 If you'd rag on the (2020) PC game because it runs poorly on a PC from 2013 it'd make no sense as well. Modern software requires modern hardware.

[@soulfire6906]

@@mokurai8233 the thing is I do not get how is it this modern software looks worse than much older software from years ago. The game from what Im playing right now, does not justify it. Yes it's supposed to be a denser world etc but still it doesn't justify the final quality we r getting. It's not even half as good looking than witcher 3 or gta v which came out over 5 years ago. I'm not saying it should look as good as the pc version, that would be ridiculous. However it's very obvious cdpr did not bother optimizing for the consoles. As original poster said, this was a game revealed 7 years ago FOR the ps4 / Xbox one. So excuse us for expecting it not to run this badly on the platforms it was marketed for in the first place.

[@eduardvandijk3431]

There are more vending machines than people in Night City.

[@strugglesnuggledslime7040]

Texture quality is around the same tho.

[@dylangoo1]

burrito xxl

[@steelej_fx]

They spelled it nigth city on the bill board

[@rgprosucctions1704]

Sounds like japan

[@solracthegreat1002]

Found a couple of street adds with "missing textura herr"

[@eoinm7497]

It’s certainly a cinematic experience on consoles

[@dirtygore]

Runs fine in my PS5.

[@kenb.1096]

No cause it crashes like every 50mins on ps5

[@hhhfdsfs]

@@kenb.1096 depends, my brothers ps5 doesnt crash.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

Yep, loving it on xsx, feels like a blade runner VR 👌

[@R1ckmister]

Playing on ps5 6 hrs straight not one crash. Every 50 mins is BS 😂

[@Eaglemc27]

"We are aiming for Xbox One, PlayStation 4, and of course PC as well" (c) Patrick Mills, 2018 Now this statement hasn't really aged well.

[@Megalomaniakaal]

"aiming for" guess they missed. Never did say how accurate they expected to be I suppose. Still bad tho, no doubt about it.

[@hx8457]

A game shouldn't be compromised for the sake of a console.

[@write2nick]

Aiming for your wallet is what they meant.

[@marcoshqm]

"We are aiming for PC, PC, and of course PC as well.". Last gen consoles are outdated as fuck!

[@OutlawedPoet]

@@marcoshqm I would argue the contrary for the xbox one x. PS4 pro is pretty weak too, but it's way better than base last gen.

[@PS5Pro4K60]

Short answer : “no”

[@averagecartoonfan3519]

I heard it runs fine on PS5 and Series X

[@Drilbit]

@@averagecartoonfan3519 Yeah only because they have to brute force to get good performance.

[@Cristian-kv2iu]

@@averagecartoonfan3519 I played on ps5 last night and only had one crash so far

[@ahrlj24]

I don’t understand the hype behind this game. The presentation is god awful as there is too many things on the screen, doesn’t set a good first impression. The AI pedestrian behavior are a significant downgrade over Watch Dogs Legion. The animations are average. Poor facial expression. Technically speaking Cyberpunk 2077 is a game almost fit for Xbox 360/PS3. Compare everything in Cyberpunk to Red Dead Redemption 2 feels like it is 2 generations behind.

[@averagecartoonfan3519]

@@Cristian-kv2iu Good to hear. My PS5 ships on Saturday, and I’m really excited. Heard it runs at a locked 60 too.

[@LPrulez943]

"With the low frame-rate, I accidentally ran over a bunch of NPCs. Really didn't mean to." *Backs up and runs them over again.*

[@kentaronagame7529]

*Cyberpunk 2077:* "It's time to turn this year around!" *2020:* "I am.....inevitable..."

[@thelonecommentor4175]

Cyberpunk 2077: "And.....I.....am...... A LOAD OF SHIT." *Glitches out**

[@soulhunter4849]

@@thelonecommentor4175 😂😂

[@L4Disillusion]

TIME TO SCAM CONSOLE PLAYERS

[@iamdaviddor]

PS5 version has very little traffic and people walking around outside. Graphics till look like last gen. I am not impressed.

[@nicoluggi95]

@@iamdaviddor yeah its basically the old gen version, they release a next gen patch next year. What a scam

[@ZiggyStardust85]

Imagine this game would have been released in April 2020.

[@FFx16459]

Or even in September

[@najib9093]

I’d rather not 🤮

[@drugstereo6347]

For an April joke, not bad

[@j.j.9511]

And yet still has no side activities...

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

Cyberpunk Art Gallery, 1 frame / s

[@Forgetthehorrorhere1]

And all the while your PS4 is screaming like a hairdryer under the TV

[@Ponyfox]

"AFTER EIGHT YEARS OF CONSISTENT SERVICE! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO MMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! +10DB!!! EEEEEEEE!!! 30DB+ EEEEEEEE!- moments later... *PS four no more* Your perfect analogy for the roaring jet engine that is PS4 made me do this. (I regret nothing.)

[@Maikeru101]

Mine is fine on ps4

[@diegomoreno6752]

actually the fan doesn't go super loud, I was really surprised by this given how wz makes it sound like a fucking jet engine

[@junglesoldier12]

@@Ponyfox this game runs so poorly that my ps4 pro doesn't even go that loud.

[@Slycoomer56]

Exactly dude. Might as well throw the ps4 on the damn microwave.

[@JeremyBX]

2015: "But can it run Crysis 3?" 2025: "But Can it run Cyberpunk 2077"

[@VGHOST008]

Yeah, but without the 'wow, it looks so cool' part.

[@lokibau]

a year old hardware like 2080 ti and 9900k can run it just fine, so...

[@jorappster]

Crisis 3 was tough on any pc, I run cyberpunk on a 2060 Super on the highest setting and that's not even an expensive card.

[@VGHOST008]

@@jorappster not expensive. It is. I could run Crysis on a pre-built PC back when it came out with GT8600. This was cheap. Now if you want to play any modern title at low in 1080p with decent fps you have to buy at least a 400$ GPU. Which wasn't the case with Crysis because guess what? It looked amazing even on the lowest settings. Cyperpunk is demanding but nothing impressive even on Max. And that alone tells me a lot about the lack of optimization.

[@megamanx1291]

@@VGHOST008 Cyberpunk 2077 is a better overal game compared to crysis, idk what junk you’re trying to tell others. Crysis is a shitfest game that falls flat on it’s face when the aliens arrive

[@zosogab90]

"Release date: When it's ready" ...The game was released and it wasn't ready

[@flashicles]

the game was ready, the old consoles were not

[@derfalke9178]

@@flashicles no. You can find bugs on pc like every minute.

[@Joao-ur7ey]

@@flashicles So it was not ready, since the game was supposed to be released on these consoles.

[@mralireza931]

@@derfalke9178 So you wanted them to wait until there was no bugs? That's is just plain impossible considering the amount of different PCs people use.

[@grigorecosmin]

@@derfalke9178 Stop overreacting dude. The bugs are not that bad like you people try to make them look.

[@TheLoganLives]

I appreciate the guys doing their best to be diplomatic and respectful, but this is just unacceptable by CDPR.

[@MagNEt1Cc]

Sad that they can't be honest because of the morons who are defending this as a "finished game".

[@TheLoganLives]

@@MagNEt1Cc There's a difference between being dishonest and straight up misleading consumers. Their behavior regarding the review footage embargo and the fact that they only sent out PC codes for review is borderline false advertisement. They deliberately avoided allowing anyone to see the console versions until after the reviews were written and posted. Scumbaggery of the highest order.

[@djinngeist114]

@Cryer24597 I've seen many people still complaining about how shitty it is on Next gen. Your best bet would be to wait until they release the pro model consoles if you are wanting to play on console. In the end, a lot of console players have just had their experience with the game ruined, that's all their is to it.

CDPR just lost almost all respect they earned with the Witcher games, that's really rough

[@tjlevey378]

@@TheLoganLives agreed 100% this looks like a switch port, when red dead 2, ghost of T, and last of us 2 all have great graphics and run fine on my base ps4

[@gonzofernandez]

It's weird. Most people saying ps4 is a relic of the past. And cant run on these new games. Like ps5 just came out. And like the game was developed for the last 8 years

[@Yes-gz9qs]

I agree this is strange. It started development on the last gen a long time ago so why isn't it optimised for them. Then of course you add your optimisation for the new gen. They may have got caught up in a Duke Nukem sought of situation but not quite as bad. At least Duke Nukem Forever ran on all platforms...lolol!

[@mza4739]

The game hasn't been in development for 8 years guys, it started development in 2016, after both Witcher 3 expansion passes were released.

[@gonzofernandez]

@Swagnik Roychoudhury yeah I think cyberpunk Mark's the beginning of the end. Makes us realise how outdated they're getting

[@Kumire_921]

@@gonzofernandez I only realized that now, when i was playing Ghost of Tsushima this summer the performance and visuals still managed to surprise me, on a base PS4.

[@MM-hi]

Also tlou2 is one of the best looking games right now and runs just fine on base ps4, consistent 30 fps and no game breaking bugs

[@almightygenius1763]

Didn't need to upgrade to play Red Dead Redemption 2, Ghost of Tsushima, and Last of Us 2. Cyberpunk 2077 on base PS4 is a horrible 720p blurry mess.

[@decus9544]

All those games are based on generally rural locations and/ or have far fewer NPC's and stuff going on, they're not really comparable in terms of hardware requirements. This doesn't mean that CDPR doesn't need to improve performance on PS4 of course, I'm just saying that those games aren't really a fair comparison.

[@saishonokaze3462]

@@decus9544 i understand but base ps4 BARELY HAS any npcs as well so what's your point Game still looks like ass with 0 npcs on the streets

[@boo76]

The FPS is ok on PS4, playable at least. Wait til you see the Xbox one and one X FPS of 10 and 15 it's shockingly bad.

[@steelej_fx]

@@decus9544 gta V ????

[@Tosh1907]

God of War was made 3 years ago? Still the best looking game on PS4

[@johnmadden5547]

John: “This is what you expect a Switch port from another modern game to look like”

[@YT-hy2is]

switch hardware is dogshit what do you expect? Most games on there are a 720p 15-30fps eye soar yet the switch outsold the xbox one.

[@cchuxue4943]

@@YT-hy2is So you mean ps4 hardware is as same shit as switch?

[@YT-hy2is]

@@cchuxue4943 Switch isn't running Cuberpunk buddy.

[@lukesablade]

@@YT-hy2is was about to say the same, if it drops to 720p on PS4 it would probably drop to PS1 resolutions on the switch.

[@robbiewebb4817]

@@YT-hy2is I think you've completely missed the point there....

[@danielboii3535]

"How does it run?" It doesn't...

[@StanleyLiberal6]

Does it at least walk?

[@caderlocke8869]

It's a brisk jog.

[@mmm.3839]

@@StanleyLiberal6 yes but your getting on average at least 15-25fps on the one s and ps4 and 25-30fps on the ps4 pro and one x but they can drop as low as 20fps

[@bergonath8851]

It walks.

[@clumsycaden5708]

it crawls

[@Melsharpe95]

The game makes my PS4 look like a PS2, but not in a good way.

[@blackRXrider]

Are you sure about that? Looks better than fallout 76.

[@shadowcomments6481]

For real

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

@@blackRXrider I've probably put in at least a dozen hrs; it's easily the best looking game on PS4. Blows Ghost of Tsushima out of the water. Depends what you're used to, I've played and seen nothing-but PS4 games for seven yrs; and this is the prettiest of all of them. It honestly looks like what it is; a next-gen game [needs PS5 to do it justice], on PS4. So it has similar compromises to e.g Witcher on Switch-and that's still a good looking game, even on that machine. By PS4 standards; there's nothing out there graphically to compare to Cyberpunk.

[@ANSELAbitsxb]

@@Omonarc ouch

[@bluu5964]

@@blackRXrider Fallout 76 looked and ran way better on base PS4 than this trash

[@paimom]

PS4: What's happening to my fps? Cyberpunk 2077: Gone, reduced to atoms

[@giangatang]

This is why they have “it runs great on next gen consoles!” In their marketing

[@XxShadowOfAgesxX]

Ah but in their marketing they used the phrase: “Plays great ALSO on (insert next-gen)”. The use of ‘also’ suggests that the game runs satisfactorily well on base consoles and current gen upgrades. But that’s far from the case. Quite the oversight by the marketing and legal team.

[@willslls8901]

It runs like complete shit on my ps5. Blurry mess. It literally hurts my eyes.

[@ippothedestroyer]

@@willslls8901 Runs fine on mine,but i did get a crash though.

[@Potato_n_Tomato]

They should change it to "It actually runs when playing on next gen consoles!"

[@Houratronic]

@@LuisRamos-vg7pl But you're playing a ps4 verison of the game on your ps5. New version that comes later specifically for next-gen will probably include modern upscaling technology (like DLSS) and that will greatly improve performance. I play on laptop with a RTX 2060 and without DLSS on medium settings i have like 30fps, if i turn on DLSS i can play the game on ultra settings with 60-80 FPS.. Pretty crazy.

[@chusj.8233]

the release date was April, where ps5 and series x had not been released, it is indefensible, that they had not released it, in the first trailers it said ps4, xbox one and pc, no more platforms

[@bergonath8851]

Yup, the apologists who defend the game to death and blame us for playing on the shitty-bitty old consoles are probably forgetting that little detail. Makes me laugh how they're trying to rationalize the sad state the game is in.

[@fishnutz5196]

Yeah the ps4 and xbox one versions are straight rip offs. Im a little pissed since i preorded but ill just wait till i get the next gen update and play on the next gen.

[@chrisp3139]

@@bergonath8851 The thing is your going to have hardware limitations with a game such as this, although optimization isn't in the best state right now, there's only so much optimization can do without taking away from the game.

[@dynamicpenguin55]

@@chrisp3139 that's their fault then? You can't advertise for current gen and then deliver a terrible product and blame people for having current gen hardware

[@tommycthulhu6572]

The PS5 version actually isnt even out yet, what you can play is just the PS4 version with slightly better performance

[@Boyer316]

CDPR said "it's a different game on console" and to be fair, they weren't lying....

[@AlphaDwg]

lol facts

[@patrickforciniti7810]

Hahahaha you made my day ! I’m playing on ps5 and I also get huge fps drops to like 40 which is unacceptable

[@jazzybooo]

0 issues on my series x

[@googleuser9073]

Games are playable... Cyberpunk is not

[@AhmazinSKM]

Playing great on Stadia, on CCU and my chromebook.

[@trilobitalbino]

I wonder how this game looked back in April, when it was supposed to be released

[@dragond177]

probably 10 fps on rtx3090

[@htest8028]

@@dragond177 Complete bullshit it runs perfectly fine on PC

[@sandrocarletto9386]

@@htest8028 22fps at 4k maxed out on a 3090 is not perfectly fine. The gtx 1080 can barely run this game at 60fps on low 1080p. All of pascal is fucked on this game

[@htest8028]

@@sandrocarletto9386 Still bull, you're supposed to run in with dlss enabled. Hell you can play it at 8K ultra with dlss on a 3090

[@sandrocarletto9386]

@@htest8028 you do realize DLSS literally renders it at a lower res and then uses ai upscaling for it right? That's not 4k that's whatever resolution its rendered at

[@Beastw1ck]

"They'll be happy with the experience." I've been to the Cyberpunk subreddit. Console players are NOT happy.

[@vostok2717]

One of them, can confirm.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Well they're trying to play a game on an 8-year-old machine. What is there to be happy about lol

[@aliahmed7287]

Even in the series X it isn't good.

[@starkraven1148]

@@guybrushthreepwood8174 show me the ps5 and x series x version so gamers can buy that one, oh wait it’s only on ps4 and xone or pc

[@verzocktes]

@@guybrushthreepwood8174 ahh I see it's the users fault they try to play a game that is supposed to work properly

[@louisrharmony]

You can hear genuine disappointment in their voices lol I can’t even.

[@CosmicAeon]

Although it didn't stop John jumping in with the fanboy defences lol. Trying to normalise it with the whole "well this always happens at the end of console generations!". Like gamers should just expect games to be genuinely unplayable now that the PS5 exists.

[@Roadwarrior92]

@@CosmicAeon yeah it's bullcrap

[@louisrharmony]

@@CosmicAeon I don’t see how he was giving fanboy excuses. He is clearly disappointed with the game’s performance on past gen and he was only stating what has historically been true: games that came out during the 7th gen, especially near the end did run badly. We’ve already seen that happen again with the base ps4 and xbone as they struggle to run some games over the past year especially cross gen ones. If anyone is trying to normalize bad performance towards the end of the generation, it’s the game devs like cdpr, rockstar, and treyarch. Not John who is just trying to explain to people what is going on.

[@SpeccyHorace]

@@CosmicAeon He also said it was unacceptable.

[@30yovegan34]

@@louisrharmony tf u talking about? we just had ghosts of tsushima and tlou2 come out at the end of this gen

[@FirlowXD]

When you remember this was supposed to come out in April and this is a last gen title (it just is, with a next game upgrade like other titles) and whoof this is embarrassing.

[@jack_wo]

it was still going to end up like this on consoles and be prettier on PC. The game has insane amounts of objects and stuff happening, so it takes a toll on the quality in textures, models and performance. It's just like the example they gave with GTA V running horribly on PS3's. Similar thing going on but with even more complexity. I understand the frustratiom though, it was misleading.

[@pxrxy]

@@jack_wo I remember playing GTA 5 new on PS3 when it came out and it wasn't this bad. This is just terrible.

[@braxtonslife7779]

@@pxrxy I bought GTA v a week after it came out for the ps3 and agree with you. The game was never that bad. It had issues and wasn’t as pretty as the next gen versions, but it played well enough.

[@RevanJJ]

@@pxrxy fully agree

[@LS95774]

Damn, thanks covid :/

[@SyberianLynx]

Proven once again: NEVER PREORDER.

[@avejantzero9090]

Yeap.

[@jasmine-ruff-puff9951]

It really looked like it would be a sure thing until reviewers said they weren't allowed to use their own footage. They almost got me!

[@MrMarttivainaa]

There were tons of leaks and such that showed that this is what was going to happen. It's so funny. "B-buh that's an old build it'll be fixed by launch!"

[@hullmees666]

@@jasmine-ruff-puff9951 the own footage thing didnt matter. reviewers only got the pc version. and pc version runs mostly fine.

[@cj7073]

Why buy this when u can get the GOTY edition after 2 years for dirt cheap?

[@300IQPrower]

Now i know why the next gen upgrade is free, you literally might as well not play it on current gen

[@toolshedvideo]

It looks bad on next gen too. Easily looks worse than any other game I've tried on PS5 so far, even BC games.

[@acommunist1607]

The game had a 10 dollars off discount on Amazon, now I see why

[@nickabbott319]

@@acommunist1607 It’s been like that for awhile I’ve noticed too lol

[@benhart3160]

@@toolshedvideo huh.. It is backwards compatible.

[@toolshedvideo]

@@benhart3160 Yeah. I'm saying that even other BC games look MUCH better on PS5 than Cyberpunk does. Worst looking game I've seen on the console so far. Hell, even an indie game made by 1 guy looks better than this game. The textures would be awful even on last gen hardware. On PS5, they're a joke to be this bad. Even AC looks better with the BC version, and that game runs like crap too

[@codybishop7526]

The fact that CDPR didn’t allow reviews to use their own footage, only gave them PC copies, and didn’t allow real console footage until a day before launch is scummy. They knew how trash this game runs on base consoles and still sold it but tried to hide it as long as possible

[@tintintb1980]

Whilst I agree, I also hope this reminds People *not* to pre-order video games. A thing many seem to have forgotten.

[@pipboysandlightsabers5478]

@@tintintb1980 forgotten? People never stopped pre ordering in the first place

[@nkzm8166]

And no one will criticise them for it. Any other dev would be getting vilified. CDPR needs to be held accountable for this.

[@greattraveller9054]

Base consoles are trash PC from 2013, it's impossible to port this game on them.

[@Thros1]

You act as if they didn't offer upgrade paths for anyone who bought last gen versions stop trying to make a big deal out of nothing.

[@sambagogo777]

720p with massively pared back visuals at 15fps, lol

[@BlackPaperMoon18]

That should be illegal.

[@gv2212]

and its not even portable

[@nongmaithemavinash3977]

@Lov Mir lol base ps4 is 900p dynamic not 1080p. CDPR scammed us all.

[@gv2212]

@Lov Mir lmao come on man

[@simran4u145]

@@nongmaithemavinash3977 I mean they never said 1080p Ps4 so can't really be said it's a scam. Sure they said they were making this game in mind of current gen but remember this is 7-8 year old tech that's still able to run this game thankfully. I think ps4 pro was kept more in mind for current gen. But it is sad about the current base ps4 state but they might be able to optimize it overtime like they did for witcher 3.

[@gonzalosaifildin8869]

The fact that theres some CD Projekt fanboys like "sHouLdvE bOuGhT a nEW gEn cOnsOLe" or "sAy ThANks iT cAn eVeN RUn fOR laST gen" are straight up stupid, RDR2 exists and it looks absolutely insane on both PS4 and One, let alone the fact that the game was annouced 8 years ago for said gen. Its honestly ridiculous, this whole mess just destroyed CD Projekt reputation for me, you see people bashing Ubisoft and Bethesda for releasing a unfinished game yet a lot of people just turn their heads when its CD Projekt.

[@Qballiz2kool]

Exactly, it’s a double standard and it really shouldn’t be, CDPR just did what other companies do on the daily, and they need to be taken to task and called out on it like any other company, they aren’t special, and this shows it.

[@kebabmcnugget3514]

Play on sheit get sheit

[@returnalnocturnal7729]

Comparing sparse open areas with minimal density unless your in St Denis (where it fucking chugs) vs a dense af city full of shit to render in real time. You're a fool for assuming that it was ever gonna run well on PS4, especially after they announced a rebuild in 2016.

[@migcas6592]

@@returnalnocturnal7729 the City in cyberpunk 2077 is design , like in rdr2 the design IS the landscape , cyberpunk 2077 is fucking garbage in optimitation , rdr2 is not

[@AkarZaephyr]

@@returnalnocturnal7729 Preach!

[@Broszu]

Got my popcorn ready, I used my PS4 running Cyberpunk to make it.

[@o00o45]

This was originally designed to release on last gen consoles. Think about that for a second

[@gamernautico]

They are getting a lot of money thanks to the current generation consoles. They are not doing it to do a favor. Think about that for a second

[@corey2232]

@@gamernautico Nobody was implying that. He was pointing out that this is how the game was originally intended, before the PS5 & XSX were coming out. If it weren't for all the delays, millions of people wouldn't even have the option of a PS5 or XSX to improve upon this... Fortunately for them, next gen systems came out & games were reviewed on PC. Now they get the money from all largest group (OG Xbox One & PS4 users) while getting the review scores for the PC & next gen versions lol. Very clever on their part.

[@chrish7308]

So they got greedy and screwed people? Why are you put the onus on last gen? It's the developer that fucked up.

[@haziqhashim2618]

they fucked us last gen users

[@mjm3091]

@@haziqhashim2618 You know that you could have learned from Witcher 3 and not buy game in pre-order/on day 1, though... Why are you all acting brand new?

[@Keckegenkai]

"Coming when it's ready"

[@KevBoy3D]

I think Duke Nukem Forever was less of a clusterfuck, I’m serious

[@卩丨尺卂卂-d8u]

"we'll leave the greed to others"

[@krimson8317]

@@KevBoy3D Yes, because it was a much smaller game

[@KevBoy3D]

@@krimson8317 Yeah but similar development hell

[@ragon39]

I mean consoles are just a POS. It’s the same thing that happened with battle grounds unknown when it went to console. The cpus are too weak. Consoles were originally rumored to be the reason for the delays and now we see why.

[@arrafi204]

15:40 “Can’t wait review on base xbox one” “Yeah, OH MY GOD...” His reaction hits me lol 🤣

[@gamingsteinpc6874]

I feel so bad for people that bought this on ps4. How was this allowed to be sold?

[@and_0_1]

I bought it I knew would look bad but i had to stop playing because of how bad it runs It is really, really bad I'm surprised by this I played Witcher 3 at launch on my ps4 and it wasn't like this; i played that game extensively and i enjoyed that a lot Well, hopefully i can geta ps5 on 2077 and play this then

[@humblee2793]

Because money.

[@gamingsteinpc6874]

@@and_0_1 i feel you and hope they will offer all you guys refunds.

[@Geo_Okami]

True.. I can't wrap my brain around one thing, did anybody tested game on console, did anybody with healthy eye vision and objective mindset said " oh shit this not good, we can't release this half baked product"

[@gamingsteinpc6874]

@@Geo_Okami and remember they delayed the game to improve console performance

[@bighosre10]

Cross gen games just don't work. Especially on this scale. They should have pick a generation. And dedicated their resources to it.

[@kaboose64]

That's the most sensible solution. They should have either 1) Scaled back graphics and textures, invested most of their resources for last gen. 2)Announce it for next gen in early 2021 and just say it won't run on old gen or 3)Just release it on PC. They just got greedy and wanted it all I guess

[@zondotl7602]

Black ops III as an example:)

[@cavemann_]

They want to let as many people as possible to experience this game. Give them a month or two and it will be alright.

[@riceeater79]

@@cavemann_ lol No! They want as many people as possible to...PAY for the game. FOH with that "experience" BS when the game is damn near broken on base consoles.

[@ary2860]

@@cavemann_ "Give them a month or two and it will be alright" lol no a game this big will be atleast 3 months or more

[@Aradinx2]

No wonder they didn't release any base console footage before release. This is just sad lol.

[@Raptorclawz]

Kinda shitty on their part as well. 8 years and they couldn't figure out to make the game look and run well. I mean look at Red dead redemption 2.

[@guybrushthreepwood8174]

Well I'm used to being treated as a second class citizen as a console gamer. This is just one more example

[@gastonhitw720]

​@@Raptorclawz are you fucking kidding me bro??! are you blaming cd project for not managing to run a next generation game on a stupid console that's 7 years old??? are you kidding me??? do you understand this is a hardware issue? this game on night city will never ever run it at steady 30 fps! this is the most they could do....

[@Raptorclawz]

@@gastonhitw720 lol red dead redemption 2 runs better than this and still looks good on consoles. Even Battlefront 2 look better and it's 60 fps on consoles. CD red are just shit at optimizing their engine.

[@Raptorclawz]

@@gastonhitw720 I bet you if rockstar made this game it would run way better.

[@docarmoleo]

Seeing this running on a OG PS4 brings great memories form playing GTA Vice City on a Pentium 2. Great times.

[@capsel22]

I died on "It looks like rubbish though". You guys killing it, keep it up

[@WIMMine]

When the footage switched to that of PS4, I had to double check that YT is actually showing me 1080p video... Hell that looks bad :S

[@darthnut7089]

Honestly sometimes I dont understand because I cant tell a difference beetween 720p and 1080p.

[@darthnut7089]

@@Supernerd471 Honestly I dont see the point of a 60 inch TV when I get a new one I'm gonna get a 50 inch max.

[@meegz149]

@@darthnut7089 Just got a 75 inch TV. Good call, it looks gaudy.

[@darthnut7089]

@@meegz149 I guess it's just because when I play games I usually sit like 2 feet away from it so with a 75 inch you have to lean back a bit to be able to see the entire thing.

[@hailgod1]

@@darthnut7089 u are watching on a 5" phone i presume.

[@PatCrawford5]

We serve our finest meals there and lowest framerates, good one man,lol.

[@achangedyou1343]

LOL I died lol

[@MrHiglon]

Yea, but blaming the framerate for driving over those poor passangers was pure balloney lel

[@thalesgprime]

@@MrHiglon each pedestrian ran over is 5 fps less lol

[@sebastiandurando2493]

@@MrHiglon Well, I know what I'm saying to the judge in my hearing.

[@SuddenCruelty01]

Tom’s Diner - “Come for the food, stay because you can’t leave due to the low FPS”

[@dooleh84]

Frame rate? This thing's practically a painting. lol

[@nicoluggi95]

Cyberpunk 2077 the pdf experience

[@CyborgSodaCollects]

It actually is a cartoon if you look at the bullet impacts on enemies 🤣

[@Thelgow]

Thems the brakes.

[@najib9093]

It runs like an anime

[@t3kev]

This is hilarious 😂

[@fernandoflynn]

The fact that John sounded sad when he was introduced is an instant red flag for the game.

[@RicochetForce]

Seriously, contrast that with his enthusiasm and the other videos is a giant red flag. GameKult's reviewer issued a hard warning for base PS4/XB1 owners to avoid this.

[@Rebelscum264]

I think he’s just been generally broken by the fans and is afraid hen he has to call bad games out now

[@Benri05]

@@Rebelscum264 the game isn't bad per se, it's just that the last gen consoles lack the hardware to run it.

[@fernandoflynn]

@@Rebelscum264 doubt it's that cause he sounded eager talking about Valhalla even though he didn't like it as a game in general. I'm definitely not hating on him but here he sounds like he's seen a dead puppy.

[@fernandoflynn]

@@RicochetForce yeah was always gonna wait myself cause the delay made it eat into my Xmas present budget but I'm probably not gonna touch it till it gets a proper new gen version.

[@blackguythompson]

Biggest thing angering me about this launch is the know-it-alls going “That’s what people get for trying to play a next gen game on old gen” If people were informed about this they either would have passed on it or limited their complaints.

[@realitycheck8294]

It's the CDPR shills in damage control mode & trying to distract people from the fact that CDPR are overrated & shady. We all know CDPR misled last gen consoles community by advertising Cyberpunk 2077 for PS4, Xbox One and PC but only showing next gen and PC gameplay before launch, they held that back because they know alot of people on last gen Consoles would not have bought it

[@mikeking683]

Well said

[@nickllama5296]

I mean, if you buy a game on the PS4 or the Xbone, you expect it to work. You expect it to run better than 15fps, and you expect it not to crash 5 times in a row. That's totally fair. That said, it does seem like old gen players were looking at what was clearly ultra-setting KZbin videos taken on a monstrously high end PC with ray-tracing turned to the max, and they were expecting that to be their version as well. If you expected 7 year old consoles (that were already underpowered when they released) to play a game like this well, and look well, you were probably deluding yourself. 720p though, holy shit.

[@TyroneDeMarcusWilliams3rd]

I think people shouldn’t expect this game to run on base last gen consoles, but it’s 100% CD PR’s fault for just not understanding that and releasing it anyway. Last gen ports should of been cancelled, even if it was financially unviable, this is no way to release a game.

[@stephensporman8206]

@@TyroneDeMarcusWilliams3rd they did understand. you think they dont know their game runs like shit? they purposely lied to the consumer knowing damn well if the player base ( overwhelmingly PS4/ONE btw ) saw how shit this game was they wouldnt buy it. its 100 percent disgusting. Going down the same path as Bethesda. Release a shit game for full price and just expect people to be ok with it. or not. doesnt matter to them because they got their money. anyone defending this is an asshole and part of the problem with the video games industry today. its all about the bottom line and not the art. not about making a quality product. Fortunately their are some companies out there that actually give a shit and are able to achieve greatness. Cheers to you Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Insomniac, Sony Santa Monica.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

"It runs surprisingly well on PS4 and Xbox One" SOURCE: dUdE tRuSt mE.

[@uncletrashero]

it is a surprise, after all it shouldnt run on them at all realistically lol

[@ParasiteQueen1]

*Walks into living room, hears sound of jet turbine.* "Oh, yeah, I need my passport."

[@cooldudeachyut]

Lmao

[@dejanstarwars10]

Lmaooo 😂😂

[@Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt]

Finally a new meme, "Yeah but can it play Cyberpunk?!!"

[@JAH-COIN]

The new meme is cyberpunk on the base ps4

[@theadhi3216]

Flight Simulator already took this meme lol

[@UmVtCg]

I can confirm this running great on a RTX 3080

[@def-po8tu]

@@UmVtCg runs great on my ps5 too

[@lukebell3736]

@@UmVtCg WELL ISNT THAT GREAT FOR YOU

[@ppooptyscoopp8462]

Heads up for everyone: disabling Film Grain and Chromatic Aberration really helps out with how blurry the game looks. Hopefully the game's horrid performance gets a bit patched up down the line.

[@artemyakushchenko5291]

I guess disabling motion blur will also help

[@giannis_tar]

@@artemyakushchenko5291 with those framerates I don't know if that's a good idea

[@udalix]

The patch is called xbox series x or ps5. Or even PC. I mean given how ambitious they seemed to be with this, shoudn't come as a huge surprise xbox one and ps4 have issues. Hell people even knew about this over a month ago.

[@markolokoy]

@@udalix we didn't know it would be this horrible.

[@Beaut_Beau]

This helps in every game - those graphical features always look terrible.

[@sadstormtrooper]

"Wake the f*** up Samurai, we have a console to upgrade!"

[@WayStedYou]

10:15 NPC behind the vending machine falls through the wall lmao.

[@MisterReen]

hahahaha I love the reaction from Rich and John during this part :D

[@xiangzhang7778]

你他娘的真是个人才😂

[@soheelegb6851]

No he just can turn ethereal and become unafficted/ stoo colliding with other objectives in the world of cyberpunk.

[@adriang3492]

He looks like Homer Simpson in that meme where he slowly hides into the bush. xD

[@romxxii]

meh, that's nothing. I've seen at least 3 floating bags, one NPC who temporarily joins my party ended up permanently joining _and_ you're unable to interact with them/make them leave, several CTDs, and softlocking in the first braindance scene.

[@Warhammer_lover]

Remember: 7 years. 3 delays. Released when ready. UPD: By the way, the game was going to be released in Aril at first, when there were no sign of next gen consoles.

[@mister4701]

​@@jeremyrick4631 how are they greedy?

[@catchad9787]

@@jeremyrick4631 okay nice for you... maybe dont watch a Video then about cyberpunk made by cd company ? G

[@JetpacksWasYes2]

Remember: It hasn't been in development since the announcement. Only after they finished the witcher dlc did they start actual development on CP2077. I don't even own the game or give a shit about it and I know this. Come on.

[@thatguynar]

@@JetpacksWasYes2 still though. They advertised it for last gen consoles as well and they charged everyone $60. That by itself is just inexcusable. I'm just glad I had to sell my ps4 this year due to personal reasons, else I too would have wasted $60 on this since I was planning on pre-ordering it before.

[@LucaDavoli_]

@@thatguynar Pretty sure you get the game for PS5/new Xbox if you own it for the older gen of both those consoles.

[@trip27]

"You'll want to upgrade" he says. That's a funny one.

[@MrBurtbackerack]

Indeed, this game dropped at a bad time for console and PC users. The gaming hardware market is screwed for the next 6-12 months.

[@Shu577]

@@MrBurtbackerack How is the gaming hardware market screwed?

[@Apollo-uy1rq]

@@Shu577 Bc everything is sold out and corona so production is worse

[@MrBurtbackerack]

@@Shu577 PC wise (what I am looking for) you buy second hand GPU cards for more than they sold originally 1-2 years ago (2xxx RTX series mainly). The 3xxx RTX series are basically fairytales right now, goodluck getting one of those for retail prices. XSX/PS5 are being scalped to hell and back just like the 3xxx RTX GPU's. to get either an XSX/PS5/3XXX RTX you need to be quite lucky or pay scalper prices - simple as that.

[@ErrEff]

@@MrBurtbackerack The problem is that even the suppliers are scalping and inflating prices, so it's the entire chain down to the end consumer.

[@Mentalex0]

This console is 8 years old, u are blessed to be able to run games in 2021

[@reeno1357]

I absolutely agree. They cant expect potato Hardware to Run next Gen Games, thats Just bs.

[@Ni4JeR]

@@reeno1357 Red Dead Redemption 2

[@YDINO69]

This reminds me of the big games ported to switch

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yeah except it would run below native 720p.

[@H.E.M.]

@@ZackSNetwork the og xbox one probably does

[@MegaLoquendo2000]

Now imagine a switch port of this game

[@lucasferreira1989]

Games like Doom , Doom Eternal, Overwatch and others runs better than this on switch. Stable 30fps framerate. But there are terrible cases like the outer worlds one.

[@Sh-hg8kf]

@@MegaLoquendo2000 you might be joking but I saw some dummases who believed it was possible

[@Kaynos]

I can litterally count the frames at some times, that's how bad it is.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

That's bullshit. Even where it dips down to 15fps, you can't see any of those individual frames.

[@brandonkelly4709]

@@vgnvideogameninja2930 joke went right over your head didn’t it bud.

[@rubencaldeira6293]

@@brandonkelly4709 🤣🤣🤣

[@voidgamingstudios8955]

@@vgnvideogameninja2930 you must be one of the people who bought a ps4 because you thought it had more value than a pc.Should've gotten a ps5 at this point kid

[@misterowl3086]

@@voidgamingstudios8955 No one can get a ps5 at this point, kid.

[@wickedhero3764]

I'm having Shadow of Mordor ps3 ptsd flashback.

[@adamking816]

Lol true

[@siriocaz5743]

I don't think it's _that_ bad.

[@redsnake9]

My God did you play that? I'm so sorry.

[@wickedhero3764]

@@redsnake9 yes,

[@chadohara9132]

God I remember that Going from game to map took forever Hopefully not that and with this game

[@Zaikaze]

For the PC master race / rich boy crowd: Basically no console gamer ever expects any game to perform like it does on high end PCs. They do, however, expect the game to be in a playable state and triple A games to have performance comparable to other games released on that same console. Console gamers are not angry that they do not get 4K ray tracing, they are angry that they get sub 30fps and 10 second texture loads. If CDPR had said "Ok guys, we have an ambitious vision for this game, and PS4/XBONE consoles are just not powerful enough, so this game will only release on PS5/Series X and PC", would I have been a bit bummed out? Sure. Would I have felt cheated and angry? No. The problem is not that they made a game that is too ambitious for last gen, it is that they lied about it and released the game on platforms that it clearly just cannot run acceptably on. Personally, I think they should cut their losses, recall and refund every single last gen purchase, and then just admit that this game is not supposed to be played on last gen, it never was, and they have been lying to us for almost a decade.

[@shanevanpelt7802]

They just need to optimize more for the lower end consoles prioritize 30fps over graphics

[@b1_ferg]

I believe they simply have not prioritized last gen optomization. It's unfortunate, but I'm sure they needed to push the game out without another delay for the fiscal; consequences be what they are. They knew this was going to happen, they simply hid the facts. So unfortunate because I've been a huge fan of CDPR.

[@alxchief]

The problem with your statement at the end is we got promised a game even before ps4 got out 8 years and to be ditched for next gen consoles when we got promised a game even before the console came out , that is a dick move and unacceptable , the game should've been fully optimized and made to run flawlessly on pro versions of last gen consoles and 4k resolutions ,not struggling even on pro versions. Kinda wish ps5 and xbox one x came out next year or 2 years after.

[@cjham5272]

Can't believe so many people are defending this. If it was EA everyone would be hating on it

[@Danishruyu1]

It’s excused because we’ve entered a “next-gen” in gaming and this game is demanding enough to show the difference. I remember this happened when we transitioned from 360 - Xbox One, games like Black Flag would like absolute shit on 360 while performing insanely better on the Xbox one. It’s just expected. It sucks

[@hardy83]

I'd the the only thing worth defending is that CDPR are pretty good as supporting their games, but that's more a defense for the future if it happens. EA barely fixes anything after it comes out.

[@smoothbrainape725]

How? It actually runs way better then what I thought because it’s a 7 year old console idiot

[@bermuda333]

I think they're defending it because CDPR at least has a history of supporting games well past release. EA does too but usually only if the game is received well. If an EA game is received poorly they tend to just abandon it and move on.

[@cjham5272]

@@smoothbrainape725 I've played Ghost of tsushima and Red dead 2 on base ps4 and they played great

[@rubenwanders7184]

Lmao this is why the developers didnt allow reviewers to show real gameplay.

[@neoasura]

I bet they miss the old days before the internet when you only had magazine screen shots.

[@rubenwanders7184]

@Vidhal Bisaws Reviewers werent allowed to show their own footage in their review. Only after the embargo was lifted which was on the release date

[@82Jaster]

They wouldn't even give the media codes for the console version. It's quite amazing that the company that built their image on being ultra consumer friendly ended up pulling this. It's like they're attempting to cash all that good will in at once by hoping people just handwave how they released an unbelievably buggy and poor performing (particularly on last-gen consoles) version of the game. They actively hid the console versions for a reason.

[@User-cvhuidghjv]

Im read as "...to sLow real gameplay"

[@rubenwanders7184]

Also if they dont care about last gen owners and know it cant run on those consoles. Dont fucking sell the game on those consoles then

[@elwaster84]

"We serve our finest meals there and our lowest framerates" Put it on a T-Shirt now!

[@ricefist]

slow down to take a look

[@Kronos0999]

No self-respecting human wants to wear that.

[@TheXnuT]

Put it on T-bug. Get it? Fine I'm heading out

[@jesusFMA]

Instant buy

[@oscar5223]

People in 2014: Assassin’s Creed Unity is the worst performing PS4/XOne game ever. CD Projekt Red in 2020: Hold my beer

[@zackkrenn5985]

It’s amazing how CD managed to absolutely destroy their integrity in one day.

[@fredericsrhetorics6114]

There ist just a limit to how low you can downgrade an engine. Still, they should not have sold the PS4 version like this in the first place.

[@mikeawsd]

@@fredericsrhetorics6114 At least you get the ps5 "upgrade" for free

[@mikeking683]

@@mikeawsd gotta have the ps5 first

[@soprano94]

It takes years to build a reputation and only seconds to destroy it.

[@Litwinus]

@@soprano94 Only the naive ones they destroyed.

[@ig21100]

The fact that they hid this is until release date is pretty messed up.

[@KOOL8]

They never hid it lmao the game got delayed in April cause it was supposed to be for ps5 only then all the broke ps4 fan boys started complaining that they’ve waited too long and how some can’t afford the ps5 on launch day

[@KOOL8]

To anyone playing this game on last gen don’t complain about a next gen game being shitty on last gen lmao

[@misterowl3086]

@@KOOL8 First of all buddy, CDPR explicitly forced reviewers to user their own footage instead of reviewer footage in order to hide the bugs and performance issues in the consoles. Second, this game was going to be released way before the next-gen console was even announced. There's actually no excuse that it's this badly optimized when this games been developing for 7 years.

[@KOOL8]

@@misterowl3086 and since you like to review things go review on when they announced the the delay back in April

[@misterowl3086]

@@KOOL8 You answered your own question. Cyberpunk was originally planned for 16 April, pushed back to 17 September, then switched to 19 November, and then December 10. Sony announced the ps5 September 16.

[@Ross6041]

NPC: hey V I have a contract for you. We need someone killed V: yeah I need the money, where is the target? NPC: Tom’s Diner V: sorry , that area is off limits. Frame rate drops...

[@LordBathtub]

I'm playing on pc and having performance issues. Especially when it comes to combat and driving I found having less than 60 frames seriously impacted enjoyment. Felt sluggish and unresponsive. Gotta feel for my console bros because it's heartbreaking that after all this time it finally arrives and it looks like this

[@IronicSonics]

Pre-patch Lichdom Battlemage : Finally a WORTHY OPPONENT

[@Hliouxas]

Ohhh you devil... You....

[@TheLloyd-iv3tl]

Pre-patch ghost recon breakpoint : are you challenging me?!

[@TheFirestriker101]

Saints row 2: WHAT

[@Old-Boy_BEbop]

imagine if the ps5 and SX didnt come out this year when this game released... CDPR would of gotten annihilated by the media for this quality control of a game.

[@judithbatas3437]

My god I can imagine the backlash CDPR get 🤣

[@thearchon8579]

The quality in pc is quite impressive

[@bs_blackscout]

Why do you think the game was delayed?

[@trevorcobb4108]

@@bs_blackscout it was because of last gen consoles, they needed more time and knew when it came out the shit that would fly out that it runs back and it's the fact they the game shows that they knew current gen was coming and turned course on the focus of the gens to next gen. But they could release a next gen patch so that's why the game doesn't look much better on the newest consoles. PC was a huge focus as the only keys sent out were for the PC platform for reviewing.

[@AQS521]

@@trevorcobb4108 let’s face it, this game is way too massive for old gen consoles. They were too ambitious in targeting consoles. Current gen would handle it fine but unfortunately the old tech held it back.

[@mattwolf7698]

This Ocarnia of Time frame rate is going to bring back some nostalgia.

[@thekrustaceox5181]

more like Majora's Mask framerate

[@slopezjur]

Maybe you could do some tests in a PS4 Pro with a SSD. It looks like the overall performance has a really good boost running over a SSD in the old gen.

[@Stormgazer]

“Cyberpunked 2020”

[@brokengames9020]

Cyberpunk 2077 is made for auto-aimers with 30 PREMIUM FPS doing macro-transactions for cut content giving out their personal data and that data is being exploited by publishers to inflate their scam and keep people in the loop. Welcome to the brave naive world. Developers of said naive world can't face the facts so they suppress, censor people. Outsource their dirty work to influencers which get high when they receive free merch. Free merch > free speech. Is your mind blown how people fall for same thing every time? It shouldn't be. Because divided, singled out individuals has no chance against organized criminal entity; corporation. Corporation is an approved scam & spy business. Their approval was obtained through manufactured consent. Corporation is not the industry of manufacturing products. Corporation is in the industry of manufacturing consent. As well Corporations [through governments] are harvesting our biometric data on global scale. So they can get to know us far better than we know ourselves, and they not just predict our feelings but also manipulate our feelings and sell us anything they want- Be it a product as a service or politician. CDPR is a corporation. Hardcore corporate defenders please check out "The Corporation", "Surveillance Capitalism", "The century of the self", "Stockholm syndrome", "Milgram Experiment" and "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know")

[@niks660097]

@@brokengames9020 what microtransactions, do you see any microtransactions in cyberpunk!?, have you even played the game or you like talking bullshit on internet..

[@davids6263]

@@brokengames9020 what

[@simonealcazar816]

@@niks660097 Don’t worry about this guy, this is some weird ass spammer, just look at his history. Yikes.

[@psychozulu]

@@simonealcazar816 what history?

[@Justin_GFM]

The PS4 version looks like hot garbage, I expect the One S to be the same as well

[@ZackSNetwork]

It will be worse for sure, weaker GPU and inferior memory bandwidth.

[@adrianhosein7698]

ohhh man this will be sub 720p at 10 fps on that lol

[@daviddodek9102]

Hotter garbage then the Last time Get it ?

[@tpx7414]

The One S version is basically unplayable. They should have just cancelled it. Looks terrible, sub 720p and 20fps or below most of the time.

[@iconofsin4578]

@@ZackSNetwork but playstation fans said tflops dont matter lol

[@praisethesun4997]

I need to schedule an appointment with my optometrist after watching this.

[@djinngeist114]

Yeah... And need to set up an appointment with your proctologist after buying it. Cause we all just got anally raped.

[@ItsSamStone]

I do have to say, I bought Cyberpunk 2077 a few weeks ago and now vs this video - they have really done a lot of updates and fixing of this. Mine has a totally stable framerate, looks gorgeous, and plays well. In my experience, I've had a couple of small glitches with audio cutting out (no, I am not pressing circle), some visual glitches if I am driving too fast like a maniac (textures loading in too slow, very rarely happens though), and the largest glitch was for some reason my game losing the ability to save. I think the smaller glitches are due to me using the PS4Pro stock HDD and would likely be totally fixed with an SSD replacement... the large glitch with not being able to save my game was fixed with a restart - I think this glitch is probably from having one too many manual save files because I deleted some older manual saves and it's totally fine now. The PS4Pro framerate is pretty stable now though... looks like stable 30fps to me. Best bet would be to buy an SSD to mitigate any texture pop in, slow loading, and small annoying glitches. But yeah... I would say if you found it on sale, def get it. I am having a total blast. If things change, I'll be sure to comment on here with an update, but so far so good. As far as regular PS4, not entirely sure how it's running but I have heard it's going good on there too.

[@chase7974]

I have a PS4 Pro gathering dust. I bought it on PC when it released and I didn't have any performance issues, but it was a bit buggy. The main reason I got it on PC was because it only runs at 30fps on consoles. That's pretty terrible in my opinion in a first person shooter. Probably would have considered it if it was 60fps.

[@slipserslipman1841]

“Runs like a switch port” SAVAGE REEEERREEEERReeeeEEeeEeeee

[@PrinceSRHU-oe5ue]

@Vish If you don’t use dlss it will. Check out ltts video

[@Blacktrous]

@@soulsbourne Actually 3090 can run this game at 4K ultra settings + ray tracing ultra + DLSS performance at 50-60 fps

[@BoleDaPole]

I dont mind playing laggy games on switch because atleast its portable and I like supporting underdog companies like Nintendo.

[@7evive]

@@BoleDaPole "underdog company like Nintendo" bro are you high ?

[@eyescrossedFTW]

@@BoleDaPole Nintendo's net worth is over $85 billion, how are they an underdog company by any definition?

[@coryleaver31]

Lmao remember when people were convinced Cyberpunk could run on a Switch

[@Maverick.D.]

It probably could.

[@fortunefiderikumo]

@@Maverick.D. 🤡

[@benr8071]

@@Maverick.D. I mean, anything can run if panic button and determination is in high gear

[@alexsilva28]

I didn't know people thought that but looking at this footage it doesn't seem so far off LOL

[@stanislavsuhhonenko6907]

@@benr8071 OR Saber Interactive. Believe it or not, but in it's current stste Witcher 3 has clearer visuals and less blurried picture than 2077 on basic PS4. Witcher on Switch even has more NPCs in Novigrad that is shown by the DF in this video on PS4

[@ucraznmonkey]

Night City, where the streets are dangerous, and certain alleys are deadly, due to the framerate being halved. LOL.

[@TheKaijuHunter]

I had actually asked the developer plus a few other review sites via Twitter regarding how it runs on the base PS4 a few days before the game was launched and got zero replies. Now we know why.