DF Retro Hardware: MiSTer FPGA - A Brilliant Mini Emulation System Explored!

[@werewolfy6]

I would love to see more videos about MiSTer, some core reviews and comparisons vs software emulation

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

I'm waiting on my analog IO board to come but I am going to do various videos comparing SNES, and other consoles I have on hand right now, so GB/C/A as well

[@pirateclick1d169]

11:09 what's the game name?

[@WaubObWobble]

If you still want this, the channel My Life in Gaming made exactly this, a two hour video that reviews every core (and gives other info), very well researched and high production just like Digital Foundry.

[@JonnyTenebrous]

IMO, open source FPGA implementation/archival of original gaming hardware is tremendously exciting. Please continue coverage of the MiSTer! I already frequent DF for its detailed PC gaming coverage, and I'd love to see the same treatment delivered to FPGA based gaming platforms!

[@viewtifuljoe99]

I'd love to see more DF Retro Mister breakdowns. Can only be good for the retro scene to have more people interested in the fpga scene and the core development!

[@Urist_Mythrilforged]

I agree with this notion. The more people know about this, the more developers join the project and the faster its goal is reached. I watched a video about the MiSTer from Game Sack years back, and this video here only advanced my knowledge about the MiSTer.

[@joshbassett]

Fantastic video, and thank you for the shout outs. So happy to see the MiSTer project getting the attention it deserves ❤️

[@sega_kid4288]

I already said how awesome your Cave core was on Twitter and Patreon, but I’ll say it again fantastic work, it’s been a blast!!!

[@martinmoller4947]

Thanks for your work! MiSTer is BeSTer.

[@TurboXray]

The PC-Engine video emulation is insanely accurate. I often use the MisTer PCE core to test out my PCE dev stuffs.

[@ugzz]

I would be absolutely into more mister coverage! Some of my favorite stuff out there and it's moving and growing so fast!

[@totalprocall6894]

The whole carrier arwing "screen loading in differently" is the same quirk that caught out billy mitchell cheating the donkey kong arcade game. They found out he was cheating because the way the screens loaded in during his videotapes was in keeping with mame, rather than the blocky way of screens loading in as per the original hardware, also as with carrier arwing here. A series keeping tabs on FPGA vs emulation versions would be brilliant....the mister FPGA deserves regular coverage as its ever evolving.

[@spyczech]

I wonder if fPGA will be used by the inheritors of his cheating legacy. I bet in 50 years emulation and FPGA will be basically indistinguishable

[@JonnyTenebrous]

@@spyczech I'd bet there will be MiSTer FPGA cores in less than 5 years which are indistinguishable from original hardware. Apparently, some of the best FPGA implementations already in MiSTer based on delidding ICs and studying them with microscopes are so accurate that they should be able to run in parallel with real hardware for years without desynchronisation. Also, some original arcade hardware, such as the Cave CV1000 boards, are apparently natively built on FPGAs in the first place - in this particular case, even in the same family of FPGA as the DE10 used in the MiSTer itself.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@@spyczech FPGA Donkey Kong is literally EXACTLY like the real PCB. You could write the ability to use cheats into the core yourself if you know VHDL or verilog.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@@JonnyTenebrous Bruh, there's already cores that are indistinguishable from real hardware. The Neogeo core? Furrtek built it using all the chips he's decapped on a neogeo. His cores are literally 1:1 exact copies that can be put together to make a new neogeo, or you can fab some of his cores onto ASICS, and get an adapter for them to fit on a real neogeo, and they work just fine.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@@youtubesuresuckscock AHAHAHAHAHA! "Cheapo devices". Bruh, the Cylcone V on the DE-10 nano is 250-300USD alone. IT's cheaper cause it's heavily subsided for school. MAME still runs all CPS1/2 games without their wait state emulation properly. SF2 runs faster on mame than SF2 Turbo on Turbo 4 mode, which it totally shouldn't. The MAME dev team has known for over a decade and refuse to fix it. While on MiSTer? It's running exactly like it should. You don't understand that FPGAs literally become the full PCB logic that you code them too, do you?

[@zekossss]

I had my MiSTer since the pandemic stuff happened, best decision ever. Buy it, you won't regret it!

[@martinmoller4947]

+1

[@venomman]

I did today... Because of this video lol

[@cMARVEL360]

.... And with this Product there is a way to buy it already Pre Loaded with games or no? I could research it but since you have one I rather get a real first hand response. Thanks in Advance 😇

[@martinmoller4947]

@@cMARVEL360 its possible. But its really not difficult. You dont have to write code. Just use the Mr Fusion image for the micro sd card and get scripts for doing stuff like update. Update all is a very good script. You have a basic graphical interface which is really good.

[@MisterDrumsNoob]

I love to see mr. Linneman talking about retro stuff

[@ToniArcadia]

Not new stuff then huh? 😅🤷‍♂️

[@MisterDrumsNoob]

@@ToniArcadia new stuff is also nice... but I think retro stuff is extra special for mr. Linneman... you can see the sparkle in his eyes lol

[@pirateclick1d169]

What's the game at 11:09

[@allyourbasekris]

I wouldn't be without my MiSTer now. I'm a massive Amiga fan and the Amiga core is a thing of beauty.

[@christuckwell3185]

I was originally going to get a Vampire for my A500, but after doing cost/feature comparison to the MiSTer, I went with the MiSTer as it gave me the opportunity to play some consoles and computers I didn't have on-top of a great Amiga core.

[@Newtonip]

I have a MisterFPGA setup connected to a CRT and it is awesome. It "feels" like the real hardware.

[@martinmoller4947]

Its impressive how good the snes core is. And i have a super NT to compare. Not playing on crt. I dont need that experience. ;)

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@@martinmoller4947 The SNES core is more accurate than the Super NT and is getting more accurate as time goes on, while Super NT, not so much.

[@martinmoller4947]

@@jackbootshamangaming4541 possible. And i guess more devs are working on the MiSTer cores. Kevtris did still a impressive job. I put the snt back in the box. Using the MiSTer is so convenient. Hope we get save states for snes core and every core possible.

[@logan_cadfgs]

It “tastes” like the real hardware.

[@coopercummings8370]

@@logan_cadfgs Nah, real hardware for the systems this emulates is old enough that they still used leaded solder, so real hardware would be slightly sweeter.

[@E_Sunbro]

I think my favorite part of these videos is the music. Something about the complexity of these tunes somehow being composed despite the technological limitations of the time is just awesome.

[@randoarchive]

A proper evaluation by DF compared to original arcade hardware would be incredible. You are by far the most capable and informative group to do this. Please make a followup.

[@EvilLucario]

This actually did increase my interest in arcade games now. I may have to invest in one and go down this rabbit hole.

[@ZaPpaul]

I've owned one for over a year now and can pretty much say it is my single best retro gaming purchase. I initially bought it for the 'perfect' Amiga core, but now it is my goto for dozens of games/systems.

[@turdhat]

The Mame/Arcade rabbit hole is truly endless. Ninja Baseball Batman. Start there.

[@martinmoller4947]

Best device ever. You wont regret it.

[@tenshin2002]

Heres hoping to see more MiSTer content and comparisons.

[@owlnonymous]

I love the MiSTer project. I don't even play any of my original hardware anymore. I get so excited every time a new arcade core gets released. It's like get a free PCB in the mail.

[@Gryzor88]

The MiSTer is my best gaming related purchase. If I could keep only one device, this would be it.

[@tylergrice9085]

I would love as much MiSTer content as you would love to create.

[@ValhalenDZ]

would love to see more Mister videos! I especially like the comparisons to MAME if you get access somehow to original hardware to see how far these cores have come with accuracy

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

This video sucked and showed almost nothing. Go to Smokemonsters channel for better MiSTer information

[@marymarshall8847]

Definitely would love to see more MiSTer videos .MiSTer seems to add cores and updates to cores each week so it's moving very fast .Anyone thinking about getting a MiSTer just get one you won't regret it

[@ShmupJunkie]

Timely review! I just picked one up a few weeks ago and have been putting together a Shmups on MiSTer video for our crowd. Playing the old MSX games I haven’t before on the CRT while also getting an hdmi out for capture is pretty awesome. Just starting to test some of the original controller connection options , but really enjoying its versatility so far.

[@mjy]

The absolute best investment I've made for retro gaming.

[@martinmoller4947]

And even getting more valueable. Cps2 and ps1 core. :) maybe Saturn. Who knows.

[@chinohormann]

Man, that MiSTer setup looks super cool. I like how small it is so you could kinda shove it anywhere you might have room. It's tempting...

[@martinmoller4947]

Get a MiSTer. Thank me later. :D

[@chinohormann]

@@martinmoller4947 I mean, I think they're super cool and would make a really neat "project," but I can't really be spending too much money the next few months and I already have an AVS, a Mega SG, and a Super NT for my light FPGA needs. I'll thank you like... _way_ later when I eventually get one, lol.

[@martinmoller4947]

@@chinohormann have a super NT too. Hardly used after getting the MiSTer. You also get neo geo, tg16, gba in fpga quality. And cps 1,1.5, 2 arcade cores. Just to name a few. Its convenient to use. But you are having already a nice fpga setup.

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

@@chinohormann I already sold my Mega SG and it pretty much paid off my entire MiSTer. Will sell my Super NT next for probably $400-450, then get rid of a lot of my games. If you are using the Analogue systems primarily with the jailbreak or flash carts, a MiSTer is better in every way.

[@martinmoller4947]

@@KokoTheGorilla69 i keep my super NT bc i like to have this piece of hw.

[@Jaw0lf]

More MiSTer FPGA content please. I have a lot of old Computers and consoles but the chip level emulation of FPGA makes this a really great idea and can be used more easily. Love the old and new tech so please keep it coming!

[@garurumon9758]

You really should have mentioned Sorgelig, without him there would be no Mister! As for the comparison with original hardware I am very interested in this, especially as regards the arcade cores. I have had variable results testing against my own hardware such as the Amiga 1200, some games show lag on the Mister that do not on the real machine (Rainbow Islands for example). Overall the Mister is an amazing device, getting clean video output from computers like the Atari 800xl and C64 is practically impossible with real hardware but the mister does it perfectly.

[@TimDavis77]

Love my MiSTer. Would definitely like more in depth MiSTer content and comparisons.

[@Naytai-mh1pl]

What a shame they didn't give credits to Sorgelig, the "father" of this amazing project

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@b m He doesn't hate arcades. They're just not something he is very into himself. Without him, the Arcade Cores wouldn't be here even really.

[@murrij]

If someone is not throwing him some coin on Patreon or contributing to the project in some way then that's the shame.

[@Naytai-mh1pl]

giving him credits is a way to contribute

[@murrij]

@@Naytai-mh1pl Kinda hard to buy a cup of coffee or food or gas or pay the electricity or buy equipment with "credit on KZbin". Anybody that owns a MiSTer can afford to spend $1.00 a month to support him. If you're using Jotego's stuff then $1.00 to him means for $2.00 a month you're getting a whole heck of a return on your investment.

[@Naytai-mh1pl]

@@murrij Totally agree. But the question here is not just the financial support, which is great, obviously. More than that, giving credits to someones work is a matter of respect, especially when you can monetize over it. This is priceless.

[@PintsofGuinness]

yo the animation in that golf game is absurdly smooth

[@geneshifter]

Neo Turf Masters is a fantastic game!

[@birdman4birdlegs]

Turf Masters is such a good game. There's still people playing it online lol

[@matthewpokora336]

Was thinking exactly the same thing!

[@klurman]

Excellent introductory video on MiSTer, John! It’d be awesome to see more content about it. Comparisons. Individual cores... it’s a massive topic now, but I think it’s the best path forward in retro

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

Actually one of the worst videos I've seen about it. He didn't show off or discuss any of the other cores, and didn't really show off any of the UI or menus.

[@martinmoller4947]

This is the way!

[@rbdriftin]

Been wanting to see DF talk about this machine!

[@ka7al958]

Well this is more of a talk a about John's set up

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

He's talking about a crappy looking "arcade" setup with a tiny screen unfortunately

[@EricFaulkes]

@@KokoTheGorilla69 some if not most people don't have the space for a full arcade machine in there home full stop, let alone in one room. So this set up is pretty ideal!

[@martinmoller4947]

@@KokoTheGorilla69 i think his setup is very useful bc you can easy switch to pivot mode and its very compact. Slightly bigger than a raspi but fpga power for dozens of systems. I dig it a lot. Many MiSTer owner sell their Analogue consoles.

[@jockel9502]

I would absolutely love more MiSTer content and I'm sure many people unfamiliar with it would love to have an overview on what they need to buy exactly if they want to build one themselves, how to set it up etc.

[@Jkauppa]

what an 80's style documentary is this

[@WalrusFPGA]

Awesome to finally see a DF video for MiSTer! Would love to see some more in-depth comparisons in the future, with other FPGA consoles and software emulation- but that is a tall order so I certainly understand taking things in stride. There is a lot to unpack in that little box ^-^

[@SolSeal]

I would like to see comparisons between real and FPGA.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

You can find plenty. I have compared SNES to the SNES core, and found no differences at all in various demos and such. Even Demos that use stuff that very great emulators will mess up, it does fine.

[@coopercummings8370]

@@jackbootshamangaming4541 With SNES it is tricky because there are multiple hardware versions that behave differently in different situations. Partway through production they consolidated several chips, so the revision is commonly called 1chip. That revision isn't perfectly accurate and has visual glitches in a few places, but its video signal is cleaner.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

@@coopercummings8370 we'll see we get the best of both worlds on MiSTer. Our video output is much cleaner than any SNES is, including RGB modded 1chips, yet it's based on a 2/1/3 SNES(the most common 3 chip, I have several SFCs and they're all 2/1/3s. I had a 1 chip, and some other models that were different from 2/1/3, before losing all my stuff and having to restart my collection) The MiSTer output is cleaner than my completely recapped with very high end 1% tolerance caps and resistors, with an RGB amp, 1chip, both at native 240p, and when the OSSC is used on the SNES I get better image out of the MiSTer still. We just got the 5x scaling mode added for 1080p(crops 8 pixels, 4 on top and 4 on bottom but you can offset it, and most games back then still considered those areas as potential overscan as many CRTs would overscan those, and do they're generally fit with useless info). Like I was playing Streets of Rage 2 last night and with a +4 offset, it shows the name and timing all perfectly, just cuts off the pixels above the characters names and such which are useless and only 8 original pixels. The scaler in the MiSTer is amazing too. The OSSC pro is getting an addon board for the DE-10 nano that will do all the same things as the OSSC pro as it's going to be based on a very similar Cyclone V chip, but this way it's much cheaper as you're supplying the FPGA yourself, the addon board is going to be 200 if I recall correctly, the OSSC pro is going to be 500+...

[@pirateclick1d169]

What's that game at 11:09

[@Marcus_K]

Good to see "Mr. Big" finally covering this. I've had one for almost a year now already.

[@Redonepunch]

CPS2 beta was released yesterday by Jotego!

[@coderkind]

The MiSTer is amazing; probably my most played gaming machine. Highly accurate, easy to use and regularly updated & improved. Regular video updates would be amazing (as keeping tabs on MiSTer news can be a bit of a challenge).

[@MauroSanna]

I have just finished putting together my MiSTer and enjoying every bit of it so far. It's the best.

[@brotherbodhi237]

Literally just yesterday I was thinking about how it would be nice if DF did a MiSTer video

[@ka7al958]

It would be nice if they did, For now we have this video about John's setup

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

Yeah we are still waiting for that video

[@KrossX]

MiSTer vs MAME vs Arcade HW ? Yes please!

[@ghogan42]

This would be hit and miss. Neogeo was made with chip decaps but suffers from some graphical bugs from timing issues. Jotegos Capcom cores are good but he moves on to the next one so quickly (because patreon...) that bugs don't get fixed as quickly. Old arcade cores have nobody interested in improving them sometimes. Where mister shines today is consoles with nearly perfect SNES, NES, PCECD, Genesis cores and a great GBA core as well.

[@AdamsBrew78]

@@ghogan42 good to hear about the console accuracy. Before learning of Mister, I was considering getting an Analogue mega SG and Super NT, along with a couple everdrive flash carts for roms. Seems like that would be a complete waste of money now for someone with no intention of collecting actual cartridges.

[@buhshmuh]

That shelf is pretty wobbly. I'd end up knocking it over

[@godzillagorilla986]

I built my MiSTer in 2019 and haven't looked back since. I use bliss board w/ every controller port connection. Original controllers make each core feel more true to the experience imho. I love it on my 32" JVC D Series via YpBpr. Looks super crispy via HDMI as well. You literally can't go wrong here.

[@cj8489]

Hell yeah John. Great video as always. I would love to see you cover MiSTer more. 👊🏽

[@armorgeddon]

A series of videos which keeps us up to date about the MiSTER or FPGA world in general would be greatly appreciated. But first, thanks very much for this episode!

[@TheElectricUnderground]

MiSTer FPGA for the win! Definitely my preferred way to play retro games these days! Other than when I need to grind out some save state practice on retroarch :-) Dodonpachi Training Stage Select coming soon!

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

😎🖐🏾

[@deus_nsf]

Looks like I'm late to the party :D

[@retropulse03]

Outside of the input lag - What does it bring to the table, practically speaking? I have an entire emulation box setup with my CRT @15Khz, but I'd like to know what practical benefits their are by comparison other than input lag.

[@deus_nsf]

​@@retropulse03 accuracy, and mostly potential, maybe for very simple very old 2D systems software emulation can do the trick, but for more complex systems there is a point where software emulation is going to get too complex to get close to the real thing. Not saying that FPGA is there yet, but the potential of FPGA is massive compared to software emulation where things are pretty much hitting a dead end when it comes to accuracy. Also, for me the inputlag is the most important metric so it's definitely a huge factor of the appeal. But I'm strictly theorizing here, practically I've only tried a few software emulators for PS1/2 or SNES and found them pretty underwhelming in terms of quality, accuracy, and smoothness. But there has been some great things too, like the SNES 9x high res mode 7 and widescreen hack which are just incredible on some games. So both have their advantages I guess, but to me FPGA sounds more promising for the accuracy and responsiveness part.

[@symphony137]

@@deus_nsf You're right when it comes to PS2 emulation, it's far from perfect and for many games the performance and accuracy is hit and miss. Then again, PS2 FPGA isn't even a thing at all... But when it comes to those consoles which are available on FPGA like NES, SNES, Genesis, Game Boy etc. there are amazing emulators out there with cycle-accuracy. So I'm not sure what underwhelming experience you're speaking of when it comes to SNES or even PS1. For PS1 (which doesn't exist as FPGA yet) there is Mednafen/Beetle-PSX which is the most accurate PS1 emulator out there and runs pretty much every game you throw at it with high accuracy. If you use the Retroarch frontend, it supports Run-Ahead for many cores so input latency becomes a non-issue. I think the problem is that people who had a bad experience with software emulation often fall into one of these categories: 1. They're trying bad or outdated emulators 3. They don't take the time to research and set everything up properly 3. They use hardware that is either weak or not suited for accurate emulation like ARM devices, Raspberry Pi's, NES/SNES minis, hacked consoles, their phones and tablets, or simply old PCs. Obviously they'll have a subpar experience then. But if you actually run the most accurate emulators on a beefy PC connected to a TV with original controllers through adapters, you can have a near-perfect original console experience for most systems up to the PS1 era and it's in no way worse than using something like a MISTer. In addition, you get tons of features on top like shaders if you want to recreate the CRT look on a modern screen if you're into that kind of stuff (something which requires a half-decent GPU, btw). Please note that I'm talking solely about consoles up to the 5th gen. I don't have any experience with Arcade systems and this might indeed be an area where the MISTer shines compared to software emulation.

[@seanm1738]

The Electric Underground gave a lot of praise to the DoDonPachi core. A DF side by side with actual hardware for any of the cores would be a very welcome video!

[@Bigdaddymittens]

Great video. I've always been fascinated by the FPGA scene. Never had the money for a system though. I hope you'll keep up the DF retro releases. They're all so fantastic.

[@Cwiiis]

Any video that has Neo Turf Masters deserves a thumbs up - the only bad thing about this video is that all game footage wasn't just Neo Turf Masters.

[@alextirrellRI]

Love my MiSTer. It does so much wonderful stuff and it's updated all the time.

[@DaveFallows]

Got mine built up for my birthday two days ago. Easily the best gaming hardware I've purchased in recent years.

[@michaels9917]

Thank god I just bought my Mister fpga setup. Whenever a high profile gaming influencer makes a video on it...it sells out.

[@soloM81]

the de10 used to cost 130. now i see it going from 140-150.00

[@michaels9917]

@@soloM81 I had to pay scalper prices for mine. After "shipping and handling" I ended paying $188

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

Maybe if you are one of those people who pays someone else to put it together. You can buy the parts individually for cheaper and do it yourself any time. There are several different sources for the components.

[@poodudeelite]

Buy the parts from an electronics shop and not a "Mister" shop. They are in stock at mouser for $136.

[@michaels9917]

@@poodudeelite I saw them on the mouser shop and also saw they weren't rated by the better business bureau. Not sure if that means anything anymore, but I didn't feel comfortable

[@netzarim]

Glad to see you back John! Remember to do a DF Retro F.E.A.R some time please!

[@KassieBunny]

Please keep up coverage on the MiSTer! This has been an informative joy to watch.

[@sketchy0078]

I got mine during lockdown like many others here. Every time I play it’s like going back to the 90’s. Megadrive, SNES and neogeo are perfect. I know there is a lot more on here but I’m just revisiting stuff I had as a kid. If any one is on the fence jump in and then send some money to jotego’s patreon. The guy is a legend. Really looking forward to the cps 2 stuff.

[@cobrettibr]

I would love to see more content about fpga emulation in general. Thanks for the video!

[@Myako]

Great video John, it really felt like the DF Retros of old. Hopefully you enjoyed making this, thank you so much! And yes, please do try to keep tabs on the project, and doing the MiSTer/software emulation/real hardware comparative if you can.

[@mag3slay4]

Sometimes John will just stand there and play retro games for hours. He loves that TV.

[@gamingblowsofficial]

😂

[@arcadesunday4592]

Great coverage of the MiSTer project. Nice to see that the 68000 core is up and running! These developers are amazing! Like your arcade "kiosk... I did something very similar (with MAME) several years ago, but it's a great solution! I've been following MiSTer for the same reasons you are (arcade gaming). In my mind (for now anyway), MiSTer is definitely the best solution for long term arcade game preservation.

[@GameplayandTalk]

Would we like to see the usual DF analysis effort for MiSTer stuff? Absolutely! That's a no-brainer. :)

[@stuartwpearce]

Great to see your best-in-the-business expertise applied to the MiSTer John - thank you! I got started on it during 2020 lockdowns and it's been a brilliant way of bringing arcade gaming memories back. No rush, but more please!

[@ingenuk4266]

Excellent stuff. As much Mister as possible please, Mister!

[@_yadokari]

Let's just take a moment to appreciate how great the old arcade soundtracks were.

[@LJ7000]

Can't believe you spent the first half of the video talking about your room set up

[@SlyBeast]

This is just what I needed! I've been MiSTer- curious for a while now. Keep 'em coming!

[@xuano666]

At last, a DF video about MISTer! Thanks!

[@amadosalazar2586]

Absolutely! More FPGA content please.

[@PurpleTeamer]

The MiSTer is like the super console I dreamed when I was kid in 80s. The MiSTer solves all the issues haunting retrogamers: lag, space and money. I did not watched the price of the MiSTer. I just bought not one but two MiSters. Nostalgia is priceless.

[@julien2983]

Thanks for the look at this device, I've been wondering if it's worth buying in for myself. Would love to see more as it develops!

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

There are years worth of videos on KZbin that show/explain more then this. PS1 is currently being worked on, and might be the ceiling in terms of what consoles this device can cover

[@YourManJazzie]

Don't know why, but in this video it's REALLY noticeable when John is looking at his script

[@CastleBomb44]

Yeah.. he seems to be making a lot less eye contact with the camera. I still love this DF content though

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

Yes! The Mister/DE-10 nano getting some serious exposure! Let people know, ain't no reason to buy the many expensive Analogue products. Just pick up one cheap Mister 👏🏾 Can also output analog, not just hdmi, and can do native framerate over digital (if your tv supports it)

[@Trunchisholm]

There is one reason: original cartridges. Apart from that, they are pretty comparable.

[@PhilippeMorin123]

@@Trunchisholm Or find a good software emulator. Right? Some emulators are really accurate (and 100% open-source).

[@Trunchisholm]

@@PhilippeMorin123 Good luck finding and setting up emulators for all the platforms supported by MiSTer that are cycle-accurate, have 0-lag and don't require a high-end PC to run at full speed.

[@mahdiyussuf9804]

@@Trunchisholm You're right...the original cartridges. However, the Mister has analog CRT output for monitors/TVs available, and better digital output with native refresh (something to do with variable pixel clock or something).

[@PhilippeMorin123]

@@Trunchisholm seems like the platform is for arcade gaming anyway. I'm more a home console gamer.

[@mechanizedattack5100]

I love the 'Here's hoping" when he shows MK! Get it done John!

[@rooskiwolf1653]

Just the first 3 and UMK3 for me, thanks!

[@Newgodofwar]

@@rooskiwolf1653 Still the best MK games. MKX and MK 11 just weren't it for me.

[@fcukugimmeausername]

Who doesn't love some DoDonPachi!

[@chrishexx3360]

I enjoyed this a lot and I doubt I'd ever buy one. I grew up with all these games and I love both the nostalgia and the tech behind the scene. Keep it up John.

[@KokoTheGorilla69]

Bought one of these a couple months ago, and just this past week sold my Mega SG with 2 8bitdo controllers for $400. I think my Super NT will be the next console out the door, as this replaces all of them quite well.

[@Don4ce]

Please keep going with the MiSTer content! We need this.

[@RastaJediX]

Definitely would love an Astro City vid! Been tossing around the idea of importing one. Missed the LRG offering. I like your setup, man!

[@EverydayRetroGuy]

Got to say John the production on these videos just gets better and better. Keep up the good work!

[@thebeautifulvideogame1396]

For people new to the mister, or who are planning to get one: look up Pezz 82’s channel. He hasn’t put out a video in ages, but there are some comprehensive set up guides to several cores on there that can be really useful. The rather dry British humour doesn’t hurt either. On topic: Thank you for the great video, John. More in depth content on MISTer would be welcome.

[@TurbomanUK]

Thanks for the offer to continue with MiSTer content. As DF is all about the detail, I’d like to hear more on how cycle accurate DF find the cores and more on the differences with MAME. After all, FPGA will eventually save our old hardware from decay.

[@ghogan42]

Accuracy is hit and miss. SNES, NES, PCE are as close to perfect as any emu or anything analogue makes. Genesis, and GBA are close to that level and generally support all games. Anything using a 68000 has a near perfect cpu as well (made from the chip decap images). But a lot of the arcade cores don't get that attention. So sound chips may be inaccurate on old arcade games. Or the colors may be wrong.

[@DenisBrkhus]

More MiSTer, yes please 👍 Such a great project!

[@KGRAMR]

That was a good video about the MiSTer John! :D

[@Kuranghi]

John looks like he belongs in a DQ game, I'm jealous I want to be a part of those jolly worlds!

[@1man20voices]

More like this John, please! Love it!

[@txray3409]

I picked up a mister last year. It's pretty incredible. There are retro computer cores for it as well, which is great.

[@radacious29]

FPGAs are becoming more and more in vogue outside of this space as well. They're also really great for learning/teaching, I have used multiple fpga kits in college.

[@iseptimus]

One of the best purchases I’ve made. Combined with the 8bitdo fight stick.

[@Bigdaddymittens]

8bitdo and Hori make such incredible controllers. It's insane.

[@5izzy557]

Could you clarify/go into more detail why its "one of the best" purchases you have made please? I'm truly trying to understand your mindset. I honestly don't mean any offence, I'm very confused about the whole HW collecting thing. Why do you like it, what is it about the HW & collecting that brings you happiness ect.

[@ZaPpaul]

@@5izzy557 For me it's the accuracy, you really cant tell that you are not on original hardware. It also does plenty of Computer systems, so the value for money is astounding.

[@5izzy557]

@@ZaPpaul Value, and accuracy. How well do you know these games man are you a top speed runner in them if not then how do you know what is and isn't accurate without the fact you have bought an expensive piece of equipment that says its accurate emulation. I would love to put something purposely inaccurate in & I imagine the only people that would realize is people that have to because they do it for a living then the internet can tell everybody else. It's usually a minor sound or something, why does this matter to you? it's still the exact same game yes there are a few cases where said game is broken, but they are few and far between is it an elitist attitude? i honestly just don't get it, Also too your point, so does good emulation... Unless you're in the top 1% of gamers there is no way most people can tell the difference. Sure you'll believe you can, but if you hadn't tested it, and I put two side by side they would be so close you would question your answer.

[@LemonRush7777]

@@5izzy557For the admission price, you get a small form factor, multi-system emulator that runs pretty much exactly like the games in original hardware, with extremely low input lag thanks to LLAPI or Snac, and has very low power requirements, and that is still being developed. It's cheaper than putting HDMI mods and whatnot on your pre-existent consoles and completely preserves the feeling you had playing those games back then, without messing up timings or anything like what, say, the retropie etc alternatives do. If this is inconceivable to you, then I suppose you will never understand. The debate of emulation vs original hardware is ages old and unsettled, as it ultimately relies on personal priorities and expectations.

[@Darkbeatdk]

Thanks for the video. Kept hearing about the MiSTer on and off for a while now, so it's great to see a new video explaining it all.

[@srduncanbyu]

always up for more MiSTer coverage. thanks for the video john!

[@The90sGamingGuy]

Im hoping to see more on this great little device. I've been thinking about getting one of these and after watching this video im going to pull the trigger on it later this year. Great video!

[@kranibal]

Yes, it'd be great to see more MISTer videos!

[@mandrias]

I love the comparison stuff. Would love to see more as to track the accuracy of MiSTer as it continues to improve and mature.

[@eircal6990]

I'm certainly interested in more MiSTer coverage, expecially the harwere vs MiSTer vs emulation - also console hardwere!

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

YES! I've been waiting for this. MLiG is doing their own video very soon too! I got my mister earlier this month and love it. I got it for the consoles, and now I've been using ton of the arcade cores, and getting into the computer ones now.

[@Horos_de_Vega]

MiSTer which name comes from the project MIST; which stands for aMIga atari ST. Micros Rules!

[@UON]

Yes do more videos on MiSTer! This FPGA stuff really interests me

[@Stemorrow]

Here's my contribution to giving you an edge with the algorithm. Keep doing what you're doing guys!

[@horus1981]

Great video, look forward to seeing more on Mister from you John. Excellent insight as always.

[@mdjfusion]

Really enjoyed this video, especially the comparisons. I would love to see further comparison videos of MiSTer, software emulation, and original hardware. Even though I'm a hardcore software emu fan, I think MiSTer is a very interesting and exciting project.

[@Will-xk4nm]

Cant wait to get one. Been eyeing these since release. Thanks for covering, I LOVE DF Retro.

[@michaelwhite5641]

I like to imagine John dresses up like Sherlock Holmes when he's comparing the games side by side.

[@Noobsaibot21]

Rotate..... Enhance.....