So nice to see what a good one is like. Thanks for all of these tear downs!
@lorenzorentniop7173 жыл бұрын
Yo nice to see you here!
@azariayehezkel90643 жыл бұрын
i also think about that
@markmathewson15013 жыл бұрын
Makes you realise how scary the cheap ones are when you see a properly engineered one like this
@uzaiyaro3 жыл бұрын
The Orico charger he did a few videos ago now is also very cromulent. I’m an absolute power supply snob since a cheap one nearly burnt my house down years ago-with mum in it. I’m quite confident in letting the Orico into said home.
@tiaxanderson97253 жыл бұрын
That "NICE :)" at the end felt like a victory after a marathon; very satsifying
@timhartherz56523 жыл бұрын
Old Design, but very well made, they went all out on the transformer.
@henriquelausch69993 жыл бұрын
Diode gone wild: -And the conclusion is... My brain automatically: -DODGYYYYY
@vincenrailfanssolo2 жыл бұрын
SYUPPERRR DODGYYY absolutely
@aaronnorman97552 жыл бұрын
Ofcouuuuuurrrrssseeeeee
@TheSpotify953 жыл бұрын
"So the conclusion is... NICE :)." That's exactly what we want to see - properly built chargers designed to last a long time, work properly and work safely without putting you (or your devices) at risk. Sadly a lot of cheap chargers tend to miss some safety critical steps, as seen in the "dangerous USB chargers" series.
@_decky4ever_3 жыл бұрын
when u want to be cheapo u need to accept the risks... (if u not scared away when a device cant write down Original, u should not expect any safety..., this is why i never buy an aftermarket charger, just the brand charger for my devices :) cost more 1 time but lasts 3-4 time the cheapo chargers lifetime )
@krahaborowski3 жыл бұрын
you can never be sure even when attempting to buy a proper "brand" charger, since there are millions of fake ones even in local stores, not aliexpress. I'm using a lot of them for my small devices, but proper branded ones with low power 1A/5V are becoming difficult to find. I do not need more powerful ones, that are quite expensive.
@alexanderbolshakov27473 жыл бұрын
Actually, there are some third-party chargers that are made by reputable brands such as Aukey, Anker etc, and they are powerful, but safely built. At least, I've tried these two brands and can certainly recommend both.
@NaoPb3 жыл бұрын
@@krahaborowski Same here. I'd like to know if there is a way to recognize the proper onces before buying, or even when buying online.
@harrison00xXx3 жыл бұрын
well i looked into multiple Samsung and HTC branded USB power supplies, they were low quality or at least what i mostly looking for: the capacitor at the DC side was the same very small (too small...) one in every 10-20W power supply. You can even visualize how bad some chargers can be by measuring the ripple which will go more or less directly into the battery (= reduce lifetime). I personally use as often as possible only chargers i modded myself with at least 3-5 times bigger filtering caps for the USB output, they compensate the ripple much better, the phone keeps slightly cooler AND charges faster. I never had much issues of dying chargers, in fact all of them mostly last long enough, but as i said right above: Their quality, or better: their DC output quality is even at 20$ Apple Chargers BAD. Example? With a 20W USB C charger (original apple) on my iPhone 12 Mini i measure peaks of nearly 5 Amps (should be like stable 2,x Amps!) and at a regulary 9V Output voltage a ripple of +/- 6V, resulting in Vpeak of up to 13V (at nearly 5 Amps!!!!) By adding an additional filtering cap with only 47uF x2 in parallel the ripple and so the voltage and current peaks are nearly completely gone which will make the battery last a lot longer. And just 4 info: by using wireless charging.... you totally wreck your battery, wireless charging produces even more ripple than any cheap USB charger :D
@SolidStateWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
By the way, the yellow insulated wire is called “Triple Insulated Wire” or “TIW” for short, in case you didnt know. Popular manufacturers are Furukawa and Totoku.
@johncoops68973 жыл бұрын
Well, how amazing! Who would have thought that wire with three layers of insulation would be called "triple insulated wire"? By the way, in my house I have wire with two layers of insulation, and that is called "Double Insulated Wire".... go figure!
@whatevernamegoeshere36443 жыл бұрын
I heard the term "triple insulated wire" before but didn't think it was the actual name of it lol. It's like the term "Lamp cord"
@johncoops68973 жыл бұрын
@@whatevernamegoeshere3644 - HaHa - do you mean the Lamp Cord that is super-light duty and only suitable for making cords for lamps ❓😂
@whatevernamegoeshere36443 жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 Yeah, the premade ones that are only for lamps Wouldn't trust more than half an amp on those :D
@mernok20013 жыл бұрын
Triple insulated wire would be great for homemade flyback transformers and Tesla coils.
@Voldees3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to write you on Patreon, that teardowons of ebay charges is a bit boring and that I would be greatfull if you could take a look at some low cost, but wide-known, big producers like for example lenovo, xiaomi etc... so.. many thanks for your effort with making these videos!
@irfanyxp34893 жыл бұрын
Yeah really wish he review some branded cheap products from Ugreen, Ldnio, Baseus and more... Anker and Aukey is a bit pricey compared to the others I mentioned....
@midimoog3 жыл бұрын
This is so different from the previous ones! I was in serious distrust of power adaptors, but now I know that not all adptors are intended to set your bedside on fire. Thanks for the video.
@BRUXXUS3 жыл бұрын
Wow! So this is what a proper product looks like!
@RickB3n3 жыл бұрын
@Agustinus Reynaldi "Origianl" 😂
@MC-013 жыл бұрын
Can you make a Flyback switching power supply? That would be an interesting series to have
@sanjikaneki62263 жыл бұрын
i agree a design from ground up would be interesting and how you decide on parameters
@-yeme-3 жыл бұрын
the key with the insulation on the transformer winding isn't just the thickness or dielectric strength, its about physical resistance to abrasion and flexing. the lacquer on transformer wire will actually insulate several hundred volts perfectly well, but its very easy to nick or abrade a flaw into it, and thats especially relevant in these tiny transformers which are wound in huge numbers at great speed. a layer of pvc or similar insulation is so much tougher and more durable.
@LarryKapp13 жыл бұрын
A lot more effort and thought went into building this one ! Thanks for the tear down .
@PCIeTeam3 жыл бұрын
I've always watched this series! It's very interesting to see all of them!
@williamjohansson6913 жыл бұрын
When you're prying open things i'm like "oh god, don't stab yourself with the screwdriver!"
@FaysalKhalashi3 жыл бұрын
Me too
@carlinesweet64423 жыл бұрын
Careful
@fredrickrari93383 жыл бұрын
I think there should be a stamp on the good charger that read " Diode gone wild approved"
@englishrupe013 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's a really nice charger! Thank you very much for your video analysis and sharing your knowledge, Danyk
@channelsixtysix0663 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, Danyk. That transformer shows how one should be made. I'd like to find the video that featured the hairdryer melting. LOL
@ferenczkurucz45073 жыл бұрын
And the conclusion is: "Nááááiiiiessseee" 😎💙 I really love it
@vaclavtrpisovsky3 жыл бұрын
Funny that they took care to use different, standard wire colors for mains input, and then connected brown to neutral and blue to live. Not that it would matter, though.
@rkan23 жыл бұрын
The most unimportant thing in a device like this... You can turn it around anyway lol
@vaclavtrpisovsky3 жыл бұрын
@@rkan2 I know. Still, funny that they slightly increased their logistics costs and got it wrong. The reasonable thing to do would be to use wires of the same color, whichever is cheapest (likely black or white).
@koochakjanghali45363 жыл бұрын
👌The technical information in the clips is excellent. How to express information with this way of expression and accent is doubly enjoyable. Register this type of expression in your name.😊
@maxiflow8695 Жыл бұрын
Definitivamente el corazon del cargador es el transformador de pulsos...no se si será igual que llamarlos "choppers" pero solo en monitores viejos y tv's viejas he visto transformadores así de elaborados...desde que estoy en este canal es raro ver un transformador asi en un cargador de celulares
@thetechgenie7374 Жыл бұрын
Very good to see one like this, it even has a blast plastic shield and spark gap on second adaptor which is rare to see on even decent adapters.
@alupci3 жыл бұрын
Imaging this guy in the tech store asking the seller if he could have an eye of a device. Soon after the device in million of pieces and with proper conclusion :). Perfect explanation, as usual!
@d.jensen51533 жыл бұрын
A table saw with the blade ~2mm above the table is perfect for opening all manner of chargers and wall warts quickly, safely, and neatly.
@johncoops68973 жыл бұрын
But doing that isn't any *FUN* .
@afb99993 жыл бұрын
Nice! Always wanted to see how a proper charger is on the inside. Thank you!
@tomschmidt3813 жыл бұрын
After watching multiple KZbin videos about horrendous AC and Car adapters I've been much more careful purchasing adapters, I've had good luck with Anker.
@michaniewiadomski79113 жыл бұрын
11:48 - "this tool" is called a caliper :) I see that one is the better option: there are two variants, with 0,05mm accuracy and 0,02mm accuracy (this is determined by the length of the "fractional part" ruler - in 0,05 it is 39mm and in 0,02 it is 49mm). In general it's a very handy tool, every engineer should know how to use it and have one of his/her own.
@qolbunsalim51883 жыл бұрын
I have one (tricle brand) and always use it. The new cheaper one from china already has a digital display.
@qolbunsalim51883 жыл бұрын
And here we called it "Jangka Sorong" although the proper name was caliper.
@michaniewiadomski79113 жыл бұрын
@@qolbunsalim5188 I heard it's best to have the vernier type. Apparently those digital ones (especially cheap ones) can decalibrate with time. On the other hand they're definitely far easier to read. I believe it also depends on the actual accuracy required. I myself have a 0,02mm one, but honestly in most cases that I measured, accuracy of 0,2mm (10x worse) was sufficient enough. In such case slight decalibration is probably good tradeoff for easy readout.
@qolbunsalim51883 жыл бұрын
Even my tricle brand has 0.05 accuracy. It is enough for me for electronics use. The expensive one like Mitutoyo brand was too good for non critical use like in electronics. Thankyou Michal.
@WELLINGTON203 жыл бұрын
Diode, utilise a arbour press with a flat head screwdriver bit to open sealed adapters and cases without a hammer. It works with me perfectly.
@1pcfred3 жыл бұрын
Dan used his swing press. It was a very nice swing press at that! Just needed a sickle and he'd have had the flag.
@Debraj19783 жыл бұрын
But the negative side of insulation is that, it will reduce the coupling between primary and secondary and in turn will increase the leakage inductance. This will in turn need better clamp circuit reducing efficiency.
@flybackdiode95803 жыл бұрын
I have an idea of calling fusible resistor. The Fusistor
@kemalkurt52573 жыл бұрын
I have similar type of usb charger from old lenovo phone (similar package but 2amp insted if 1)and im using it more than 5 years it still works nicely. Also seeing its internals is nice it is an good, safe and reliable charger.
@jp0407593 жыл бұрын
WOW Great quality construction. You get what you pay for. Incredible detail in the transformer construction.
@jean-francoiscaron57063 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to have a device for testing these things at the store, like if you go to a Goodwill/Value Village and see the wall o' chargers. The dodgy ones don't always have obvious typos.
@vladd93443 жыл бұрын
how can i send you things?
@doorwhisperer11 ай бұрын
Ahhh at last. A dryer for those with molten hair.
@JeanDAVID2 жыл бұрын
why did you not measure the isolation resistance between the primary and the secondary coils with a megohm meter before unwinding all ?
@IustinianP3 жыл бұрын
14:39 can you make me understand...why the wires have 0.72 overall diameter,whilst the inner diameter is 0.52 but you took in account only 0.1 ?
@uknifesame3803 жыл бұрын
Por fin un producto decente..!! Este es el video que esperaba, ya había perdido la fé en la humanidad..Finally a decent product .. !! This is the video I was waiting for, I had already lost faith in humanity.. ;)
@AnandKumar-ym9yw3 жыл бұрын
This is the first charger i think passing the all test of diode gone wild.
@jkobain3 жыл бұрын
Sow much injoulation! Thanks for testing, and tearing them apart, and sharing your conclusions.
@HPD11713 жыл бұрын
even that EE13 core should be able to handle way more power then just 5W. that transformer as a very easy life compared to how that size core would be used these days. as for heating the cores to separate, I made a little circuit to test the saturation current of the transformers that I switch to "torture mode" where I just crank the current right up into saturation to heat the core on its own. just not too much to burn the wire insulation and its a very nice controlled way to heat them up.
@heno_30983 жыл бұрын
Very good construction. The first capacitor behind the diode on the secondary side is a polymer type with extra low ESR and thus high max. a pulse current load which in this type is well above 1A at 100kHz. Especially for constructions without feedback through the optocoupler, it is crucial that the output voltage of the charger does not exceed the maximum level and also for the long life of the charger. I think that this design, if it had an optocoupler, can without problems handle twice the output current.
@kf7tkj3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this teardown, we get soooo many of the bad ones its pretty cool to see a good one! Would love to see more "legit name brand" teardowns!
@p_o_3 жыл бұрын
0:50 And there is error in russian "Адаптер питания" because there is R (proper letter is Я) in the last letter.
@circuitblog013 жыл бұрын
Just to note at 4:11 that the white matter is not resin It is silastic
@BobT363 жыл бұрын
Your editing is getting damn good m8!
@uzaiyaro3 жыл бұрын
If you want a top tip for Apple USB chargers; the serial number can be found inside the USB port. Counterfeit chargers almost never go to that effort.
@-yeme-3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the actual difference in BOM and manufacturing costs is between DODGY and NICE. It cant be that much, the fundamental design and 90% of components are the same. A lot of the DODGY chargers come sooo close to being a decent product, if only they'd cost-cut just a tiny bit less.
@simontay48513 жыл бұрын
some plastic sleeving on the secondary winding costs almost nothing. The manufacturers of cheap chargers just can't be bothered.
@tookitogo3 жыл бұрын
I was just saying the same thing about Chinese crimping tools: they’re so close, but cut too many corners. If they targeted, say, $30-40 instead of $15, they’d be able to make a product that actually competes with the $400 original tools, but noooo, they just go for the absolute cheapest… :(
@lkahfi3 жыл бұрын
Am I miss the schematic or you didn't give it because legal reason?
@estartermanual3 жыл бұрын
What is the function of interference inductor at the hot side? thanks
@dariushunter67923 жыл бұрын
Have you done the newer Samsung Chargers?
@uzaiyaro3 жыл бұрын
Nice brick. I also liked the Orico one, too. I’d happily have both in my house.
@Killerspieler08153 жыл бұрын
Using junk is far more enviromentally friendly than buying a heat gun , tell this to your cat ( = superviser)
@AugustineAriola3 жыл бұрын
There is no circuit diagram for this charger. I wish there is one!
@TheBypasser3 жыл бұрын
That exact case when "too much" is bad. It takes some large voltage to flash an air gap, but, fyi, flashing along an insulator's surface takes way less. Also wonder why nobody uses the best safety trick ever, the ground contact that is ;)
@FixDaily3 жыл бұрын
13:56 Exactly how i count my pushups
@Erumachi3 жыл бұрын
1:01 Why is that using language from Indonesia 😂
@giovannimarino44643 жыл бұрын
it's a good one it's impressive the difference between a good switching inductor and a cheap one....
@electronic79793 жыл бұрын
Helpful video
@filenotfound__38713 жыл бұрын
The interference shield in the transformer, does it reduce the efficiency?
@thisone16973 жыл бұрын
Anything between does.
@lele21713 жыл бұрын
Why it written with Bahasa Indonesia / Malay there?? And indeed, Lenovo original charger is awesome about build quality... I have Lenovo p2 power. But with other QC charger, it won't activate the fast charging... It has to use its own Charger... I think lenovo p2 has special fast charging method...
@jeffreyestayobasanes3 жыл бұрын
I have also opened a Lenovo charger before, same board, same transformer, but different model. The reason I opened it is it failed. Removing the parts are challenging as they are securely soldered. Well, Lenovo did a good job in manufacturing, although I can't figure out why the charger failed. I just salvaged the components.
@heno_30983 жыл бұрын
In the design of flyback switching power supplies , if the capacitors at output 2 are parallel or separated by a coil, they will always fail as the first capacitor closer to the diode. Therefore, the correct design should include as the first capacitor a higher quality type, the maximum ripple current of which exceeds the maximum current supplied by the power supply itself. This parameter max. ripple current vs lifespan and maximum temperature can find and check in datasheet of mentioned capacitor. If this principle is not applied, the service life and reliability of mentioned switching power supply is much shorter.
@woko-ly7mm3 жыл бұрын
hi,i wont to diy a isolation trafo from an old trafo from scrapyard,the outer dimensions are w96,h80,b46. the wire diameter is 1.2mm ,could you tell me how nany turns and windings i need, for approx. 500 w.?
@mahdyfouad3 жыл бұрын
NICE. great video with unique english accent. greetings from alexandria egypt.
@prayogi53963 жыл бұрын
Is that charger for Indonesian market?
@RobotN0013 жыл бұрын
Is shield connected before common mode filter, or after?
@gayanmax003 жыл бұрын
Bro after long time.nice video again.tnx
@omkarbansode63053 жыл бұрын
at 7:37 can you please tell what machine you have used , or please someone refer me the video
@LawpickingLocksmith3 жыл бұрын
This is a "no kurva" charger I have to get one!
@WELLINGTON203 жыл бұрын
You’re one of my favourite KZbinrs.
@DigitalBhangari3 жыл бұрын
Diodegonewild approved!
@rjones85083 жыл бұрын
Than you, Diode, but I am suffering from schematic withdrawal 🙂
@fumthings3 жыл бұрын
8:57 the cat is IN a BAG!
@jasonvoorhees32823 жыл бұрын
I wonder why there has to be a huge distance between the primary and secondary side of the board. The components are intact by solder and they can’t touch each other.
@englishrupe013 жыл бұрын
I cannot tell if you are serious or joking.....but if serious, you should explore "circuit separation". It is because of "tracking" that a "creepage" gap (8mm recommended) is required between primary and secondary circuits.
@ovalwingnut3 жыл бұрын
You have transformed my opinion of these little devil chargers... they aren't all devils. You are a good human.
@ithalkomedi15133 жыл бұрын
DGW i made your switch mode transformator tester circuit but my circuit doesn't work. I used attiny24a smd (i couldn't find a dip one) and irfz44 instead of irlb8743. Is it critical to use irlb8743 for mosfet. I check all the voltage and value on my circuit. Everything is correct but it doesn't work. Please help me.
@ithalkomedi15133 жыл бұрын
@Marko Bandov i think about this suggestion thank you but there is one more problem even if i remove the mosfet i think i need to see some signal on Attiny24a but there's no signal on signal leg of Attiny24a. Is it critical to use dip Attiny24a because my ic is smd. Or is my ic broken. Because of this i order new Attiny24a for test this situation.
@ithalkomedi15133 жыл бұрын
@Marko Bandov thanks a lot for all your suggestions.
@gamermakerhunter54493 жыл бұрын
1:00 there indonesian language is the charger for indonesian market?
@LiveEnjoyment3 жыл бұрын
Could u do the schematics in the next video?
@electron-19793 жыл бұрын
Without the plastic, the gap in the PCB is just "clearance". With the plastic, you get much more "creepage" 😁⚡
@brucepickess80973 жыл бұрын
Hi, yes I agree, the clearance distance is across the air gap and to the primary and secondary points/track. The creepage distance is the path across the surface of the insulation to the primary and secondary circuit points/track.😀👍
@gianluca4583 жыл бұрын
This is actually VERY NICE!!
@pirelli773 жыл бұрын
Finally a good usb charger 15:43 👍
@JohnUsp3 жыл бұрын
Hey Diode, you can use 100% Pure Acetone to dissolve the glue and open it easily, try that.
@uzaiyaro3 жыл бұрын
If you get rid of that cap between the primary and secondary side, does that mean that the tingle you get when you touch the output also goes away? I remember seeing that the tingle is due to this cap between pri/sec. Keen to have this cleared up though!
@nitin94111663 жыл бұрын
Bro please tear down some high amp power adapter like : Xiaomi 120 watt or some 65 watt pd charger
@furqanb75303 жыл бұрын
Sure don't forget to pay for it on his Patreon
@theoneohmresistor3 жыл бұрын
i have also torn down lenovo 1A charger, but it seems mine is a bit newer... its an old video but not that bad
@qolbunsalim51883 жыл бұрын
The Xiaomi adaptor is also nice. Come with interference filter on primary n secondary, proper gap n also plastic sparator like this lenovo one.
@ariadhikarayendra51112 жыл бұрын
I notice that my motorola phone from a few years ago uses the same type of charger.
@uzaiyaro3 жыл бұрын
If it’s not a dumb question; how does a fusible resistor differ from a normal resistor? Are there ways to test one from the other, and do they have different bands or ways to identify? Thanks!
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
It acts also as a fuse. It melts at a specific relatively low current.
@muhammadawais7288Ай бұрын
fusible resistor works like normal resistor in normal circumstences and acts like fuse in case of short Circuit. Normal Resistor take some time in blowing up and Fusible resistor reaction is fast. Fusible Resistors are mostly Light Blue colored and rough appearence.(Not Shiny Finish)
@binaryglitch643 жыл бұрын
Damn, Lenovo sure went all out on this one.
@lele21713 жыл бұрын
Maybe teardown the brand chargers will be helpful for us to choose and buy a good charger... Like Anker, Aukey, Ugreen, etc... Thank you, bro....
@iXmerof3 жыл бұрын
yes, to validate if they really are as they advertise themselves as premium
@fancy12852 жыл бұрын
Veľmi kvalitné video. Je vidieť že značková nabíjačka je úplne ináč vyrobená a dokonca je problém ju otvoriť... Sa mi ľúbia tvoje klasické metódy. Som tiež údržbár a kladivo je najlepší kľúč. Diky za podrobné info.
@SiemensIQ700pro3 жыл бұрын
So are there any decently built fast chargers? Maybe Samsung makes good charging bricks as they’re a well known brand.
@3ccdmike3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@arthurmorgan89663 жыл бұрын
I have some chargers from Aliexpress, like Baseus. Touching lightning (iPhone) charger cable tip gives a slight tingle, not shock, but unpleasant. Is it something like residual current that’s not filtered out or could it be something possibly dangerous?
@DiodeGoneWild3 жыл бұрын
Probably the capacitive current throught the Y1 capacitor.
@arthurmorgan89663 жыл бұрын
@@DiodeGoneWild I received a no brand PD charger today, for my usb soldering iron (miniware ts80p). Touching the iron handle gives a burning tingle. Checked the gndiron body with Fluke, DC voltage 0.5V, AC 25-30V. Man, now I’m afraid to open and see what kind of horror is inside that charger.
@ninto14263 жыл бұрын
I like how you talk :)
@zebo-the-fat3 жыл бұрын
And that is how you should make it!
@ruudb723 жыл бұрын
Finally a good one! Nice video!
@RogerTannous3 жыл бұрын
Impressive, thanks! Were you able to reconstruct the transformer ? 🤣
@Miata8223 жыл бұрын
On the secondary side the capacitor near the diode is a different type. Is that type more resistant to heat?
@genius32583 жыл бұрын
That is an polymer capacitor. A solid state aluminium capacitor. There is no electrolyte in it to dry out. It has lower esr than electrolytic, withstands higher temperatures and has longer life. But the package size for same capacity is larger when compared to electrolytic and is more expensive.