Dirac notation: state space and dual space

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Professor M does Science

Professor M does Science

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@the__last__roman
@the__last__roman 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video; a very clear exposition of the fundamental mathematics, and concise too. I just wanted to note that I believe there is a small error in the matrix multiplication done at 10:42, and I think it should be c = x_1 x_2 + y_1 y_2 + z_1 z_2 - otherwise, it looked good to me.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct, thanks for finding the typo!
@mikewade4255
@mikewade4255 2 жыл бұрын
Whew...I watched that 3 times scratching my head and was about to give up until I saw this comment!
@timmwahl7097
@timmwahl7097 2 жыл бұрын
did not compute xD. Thanks that got me hung up for a second too. Glad someone pointed it out here
@universemaster
@universemaster Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Can you pin this comment, please? Excellent quality of videos in general, thank you!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
@@universemaster Pinned! :)
@workerpowernow
@workerpowernow 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for making these videos. As a current PhD student trying to strengthen my understanding of the mathematical foundations of QM, this series is excellent. For the most part, my experience has been that resources on QM either skirt around dual spaces and the more rigorous aspects of the lin al underpinning QM, or they present the mathematical structure in an opaque manner with little to no motivation. You do a great job of developing the more abstract concepts tied to vector spaces and how they relate to QM in a way that is comprehensible
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much -- this really encourages us! We're very glad it is helpful!
@porit1023
@porit1023 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this series. The formalism is so beautiful. It was an "aha" moment for me when you talked about the fact that we cannot add a row vector and a column vector together, so that must mean that they belong to two different vector spaces! Mind blowing.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@gingerbrown7872
@gingerbrown7872 3 жыл бұрын
I just found these videos, and wow, I can't thank you enough! I am a PhD student taking quantum mechanics, and these videos are both extremely interesting and helpful on so many levels. I appreciate all of the work put into this channel, please keep it going!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, they certainly motivate us to keep going!
@supergravity66
@supergravity66 3 жыл бұрын
Clarity & precision in your presentation is greatly appreciated!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, comments like yours motivate us to keep going!
@martonkrenusz9092
@martonkrenusz9092 Ай бұрын
amazingly intuitive and good introduction to the mathematical foundations of QM, thank you!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 17 күн бұрын
Glad you like it!
@volkerjung615
@volkerjung615 Жыл бұрын
This.Channel.Is.Awesome!!! Impressively fresh and modern approach, without lacking the required math. AND convey a deep understanding to many crucial basics that are rarely being found elsewhere. Pure joy to watch. Thank you guys so much!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like our approach! :)
@elenaclaramaria8577
@elenaclaramaria8577 2 жыл бұрын
I am so very thankful Sir for this series of videos. I am still an undergraduate student and you helped me so so much in understanding key concepts and analogies. I will forever cherish and share these videos. Let this community know if we'll ever be able to support you on patreon, ko-fi or else. Thank you so much!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! Where are you studying your undergraduate?
@aky68956
@aky68956 3 жыл бұрын
Dude you are killing it. Great presentation in the entire playlist. And sophisticated enough.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rattinyou
@rattinyou 2 жыл бұрын
I took (so much as I remember) 4 different courses in quantum mechanics plus an extra two in Q Chem, by far this is THE most comprehensive yet easy to follow narrative I came across! Thank you and genuinely said, well done!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad you like our approach! Where do you study?
@El_Abejorro
@El_Abejorro Жыл бұрын
Finally I am convinced, as a mathematician, that the bra-ket notation is nice and helpful. Also in general I really appreciate the rigor in your explanations, which is very hard to find in most physics references.Thank you!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like our videos! :)
@hidetsuguhiraki2008
@hidetsuguhiraki2008 Жыл бұрын
Through your video series "The postulate of quantum mechanics", I am learning the mathematical model of Quantum Mechanics. Thank you very much for this helpful video series,
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! :)
@nomanahmadkhan7791
@nomanahmadkhan7791 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What an excellent way to teach most abstract things in the least abstract way, great vids.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so, and thanks for watching!
@lizard7120
@lizard7120 2 жыл бұрын
You did a much better explanation of this in 17 minutes than my professor has in 2 months! Thank you for relating everything to Euclidean space instead of throwing us into the deep end of abstract nonsense! This was a super helpful summary!😄
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! May we ask where you study?
@sidddddddddddddd
@sidddddddddddddd Жыл бұрын
Haha. Wait there! The abstract stuff is extremely important as well. In a first course, you might think you don't need all of that stuff but as you progress further, you will realise the importance of it.
@barbaracoelhobraune1658
@barbaracoelhobraune1658 2 жыл бұрын
You just saved me! I wasn't understanding a single word of my quantum physics book but then I found you! Keep up the good work, you're helping a lot of slow learners out there (like me haha)
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you find our videos useful! What book are you using?
@deroreads
@deroreads 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the effort. I cannot tell how the videos in this channel are helping me.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
This is great to hear! :)
@Meow_yj
@Meow_yj 3 ай бұрын
I wish I had discovered you earlier; then I wouldn't have failed quantum mechanics :' ) Thank you for these high-quality lectures!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 ай бұрын
Glad you like our videos, and glad you found us! :)
@moinakdey9268
@moinakdey9268 3 жыл бұрын
As I am learning Quantum Computing so these are very useful for me. I love the way you make us understand things. Thanks a lot professor.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that this is useful, and thanks for watching! :)
@HankGussman
@HankGussman 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent introduction to QM. I have learnt a bit of General Relativity. And coming to QM afterwards, things line up smoothly with this into. Many thanks!!
@asdfmy1234
@asdfmy1234 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, your videos are so good! Fast and packed with information and detail, pure gold.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the videos! :)
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 Жыл бұрын
Guys and Gals. I got a suggestion to make and to reduce your workload to answer repeated queries. I notice a large number of queries repeat the same in different versions.Please consider to create a common FAQ video or document on QM. It helps learners. I came across a similar FAQ in one of the edX courses for Relativity and it solved a lot of Beginner queries. Cheers
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
This is a great suggestion, thanks! We are preparing extra material (including questions+solutions) and will also look into a Q&A.
@vickynassiopoulou8120
@vickynassiopoulou8120 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!!! Very clear exposition!!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@patekswiss9521
@patekswiss9521 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with the other commenters - this is simply outstanding work without the fluff and nonsense. It is comparable in its rigor to some of the classroom series that are on youtube, but unlike those, it was MADE for youtube so the visuals and the audio are clear - not a little guy writing inscrutable stuff on a far-away blackboard in an echo chamber. It does go by pretty fast, but thats OK. You can go back as often as needed to pick up all the nuances and pause to work out derivations yourself. Wonderful, deserves a vast auidience, please keep it up!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you *so* much for your feedback - this was exactly our intention and we're thrilled that you like it!
@paulbk2322
@paulbk2322 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your lucid explanation......btw, do you have any plan of starting a series on rigorous statistical mechanics? It will be exceedingly useful.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
We hope so, although we would first like to make some more progress on the quantum mechanics series.
@orveclenunivsa9975
@orveclenunivsa9975 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much mate, the video is great!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@kazimierastamoliunas7927
@kazimierastamoliunas7927 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, i have a question. Why exactly does bra* become ket? Is it because the scalar product has to comply to some properties like invariance. In that sense does a scalar product between a member of dual space with its conjugate member of a vector space form an invariant concept in quantum mechanics?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
To fully answer this question one would need to delve into the mathematics of inner product vector spaces. But for our purposes, the fact that we have an inner product vector space allows us to use notions such as the length of a vector (for example to work with normalized states) or the angle between two vectors (for example to compare how similar two states are). I hope this helps!
@jackbeda521
@jackbeda521 Жыл бұрын
Is there a "first video" in this "series on rigerous quantum mechanics" or is it not released in the order a student might want to learn it? I think I wanna buckle down and go through all of them, but there doesn't seem to be one playlist for this. Thanks! Any assistance appreciated
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
The various playlists do follow a good order in which to watch the videos. And amongst those, a good order would be the following: 1. The postulates, which gives you the basic mathematical background for quantum mechanics: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfmMcKF-ljTvAJQ2z-vILSxb 2. The quantum harmonic oscillator, a good example of applying the postulates for a simple system: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfmdWs3CsaGfoITHURXvHOGm 3. Angular momentum, which extends the ideas above to 3D: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfmm5SZRjbhOKNziRXy6yIvI 4. Central potentials and the hydrogen atom, good applications of the ideas behind 3D quantum mechanics: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfkqnDmcAJTKwCQTsFQk1Air and kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfnJbLf-p3-_7d51tskA0-Sa There are a few other topics (like time dependence or uncertainty principles) that you can watch in parallel to the above. With these, you should have a basic grasp of quantum mechanics (about 2nd or 3rd year undergraduate student). After this, more advanced topics include things like identical quantum particles: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfnJ6X1ifa_JuOZ-Nq1BjaWf or second quantization: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfnSqy1fs3CCNALSvnDDd-tb or density operators: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVflL73N8668N0EQUnID1XaEU We are still working on adding more videos, and also working on a website to facilitate self-study, so stay tuned for that! And hope this helps!!
@Priya_dancelover
@Priya_dancelover Жыл бұрын
I love your clarity could you please suggest any resources to read further
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Glad you like our videos! Quantum mechanics textbooks we like include those by: Sakurai, Cohen-Tannoudji, Shankar, and Merzbacher. I hope this helps!
@JustinJoseph7
@JustinJoseph7 3 жыл бұрын
Isnt the scalar product in vector space - x1x2+y1y2+z1z2 instead of x1y1+x2y2+x3y3?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct, this is a typo!
@JustinJoseph7
@JustinJoseph7 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Great videos btw.. thanks
@nastyavicodin6229
@nastyavicodin6229 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for videos!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SalehAbod8
@SalehAbod8 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks professor for the great lectures. Which references are you using for your lectures?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
We like a range of books, including: "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai, "Quantum Mechanics" by Cohen-Tannoudji, and "Principles of Quantum Mechanics" by Shankar.
@nomanahmadkhan7791
@nomanahmadkhan7791 2 жыл бұрын
Going through the comments and the answers therein I got the following understanding: In Euclidean space any point can be expressed by 3 coordinates (say x, y, z) that is why Euclidean space is 3-dimensional; similarly in state space any point/state/system is represented by infinite coordinates (the basis contains infinite kets OR column vector contains infinite elements) hence the state space is infinite dimensional. Am I on the right path?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds correct. Additional comments to make are, first, that state space is a complex vector space, as opposed to real for the Euclidean space. And second, state space can be finite or infinite, it depends on the quantum system of interest. For example, if the quantum system of interest is the spin of a single electron, then the state space happens to be 2-dimensional only. I hope this helps!
@VIVI-ev9oc
@VIVI-ev9oc 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, one question: the scalars used in the scalar multiplicación for the state space are complex numbers ?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we are working with a complex vector space, and scalars are complex numbers in general.
@lazyevaluation
@lazyevaluation 6 ай бұрын
Great clarity!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 6 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@shaizanbhat7826
@shaizanbhat7826 2 жыл бұрын
Hello professor , can u please tell me if u have followed any book for making these q.m lectures
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
We like a range of books, including "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai, "Principles of Quantum Mechanics" by Shankar, and "Quantum Mechanics" by Cohen-Tannoudji; but in the videos we try to use what we think is the most effective approach, which doesn't necessarily follow a specific book. I hope this helps!
@zray2937
@zray2937 2 жыл бұрын
There is an important imprecision in postulate I. The state of a physical system is characterized by a ray, aka, a vector modulo the phase.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification! We actually explore this idea in some of the subsequent videos in the playlist on the postulates of quantum mechanics.
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 Жыл бұрын
Except that none of this has anything to do with "the state of the physical system". The easiest way to build a proper intuition is to consider the equivalent case for dice. Dice can be in two physical states: they can be resting on the table, in which case they have zero kinetic energy in the rest system of the table and then "their state" can be characterized by one of the outcomes "1" to "6" or they can be rolling, i.e. their kinetic energy is not zero and then their physical state has nothing whatsoever to do with the mathematics of the probabilistic outcome space that is spanned by the six outcome vectors. To talk about "the state of rolling dice" is completely meaningless within the framework of probability theory. We can, however, talk about the state of the dice throw ensemble, which for fair dice would be the equal superposition of all six outcome vectors. If you transfer this to quantum mechanical systems, then it's fair to say that the wave function (or, more generally, the density matrix) describes the state of our knowledge about the quantum mechanical ensemble, whereas the individual measured outcome tells us the outcome of the energy transfer in an individual element of the ensemble (unlike dice quantum systems can transfer different amounts of energy to the measurement system before they "come to rest"). What we can't say is that an individual quantum system has "the state of the wave function". That leads to all kinds of problems (mostly of the philosophical kind) that are not covered by any known experimental result.
@zeio-nara
@zeio-nara 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's a silly question, but why the scalar product of complex vectors is so useful on practice? It is mentioned everywhere, but I don't understand it's significance. For instance, as I know, in quantum computing you can take a vector describing a quantum state (for instance |a>) and compute it's outer product with itself like |a>^2 which will give you a vector of probabilities measuring specific quantum states or you could multiply a matrix by quantum vector like A|a> = |b> which can be interpreted as modifying system's state without measuring it. But what gives you the scalar product if it is just a single number with an indistinguishable mixture of states? How can you use it?
@zeio-nara
@zeio-nara 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard there is a formula like = which is used for obtaining an expectation value of operator B, which is based on the scalar product, but... what's a practical meaning of this after all
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
We cover the meaning of all these quantities in our videos on the postulates of quantum mechanics, which you can follow in this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfmMcKF-ljTvAJQ2z-vILSxb Talking specifically about the expectation value of an operator B in a state |a>, , then you can find the relevant video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHbQXnignJqrm80 This has applications, for example, in the study of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppfNgqevgad1ftk I hope this helps!
@zeio-nara
@zeio-nara 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ProfessorMdoesScience Ok, thank you a lot, will try to figure out
@PatelYashHemalkumar
@PatelYashHemalkumar 4 жыл бұрын
amazing work sir. love from india. :)
@dachyVAR
@dachyVAR 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, thank you.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@psiphixium3919
@psiphixium3919 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much...I always wanted to know this
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to be helpful!
@jaytimbadia2191
@jaytimbadia2191 2 жыл бұрын
Why Scalar product is linear only in second argument? I mean we can also say its linear in first argument and for second its non linear. What is the intuition behind this?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, like any definition this is a choice we make. The important feature is that by defining one argument to be linear then we ensure that we can define a usual norm that is always positive or zero. If both arguments were linear, we could not ensure a positive norm. I hope this helps!
@El_Abejorro
@El_Abejorro Жыл бұрын
Can you recommend similarly rigurous videos to learn general relativity?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
We are not familiar with any, but there likely are some on KZbin; let us know if you find them! :)
@TheWingEmpire
@TheWingEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
Another question just popped in my mind: If we consider our universe to consisting of three space and one dimensions (and seven more according to string theory) why did we have to develop mathematical constructions of quantum mechanical for even more and say, infinite dimensions? I believe mathematics and reality are two aspects of same thing, but I still wonder what the higher dimensional constructions mean in reality?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I have a good answer for this. Quantum theory does require an infinite dimensional space to describe even a single particle in one dimension. There are many ways in which one can put this, for example, the canonical commutation relation [x,p]=ihbar is not well-defined in finite dimensional Hilbert spaces. So, in a sense, the answer is: because this is the only way in which we can make it work...
@TheWingEmpire
@TheWingEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience it was helpful, thank you very much:)
@sawanbhattacharyya3789
@sawanbhattacharyya3789 7 ай бұрын
what is a is it real or complex bcz if its real then anti linearity property over first argument in state space bear no sense so s must be complex number to bear sense am i correct?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 7 ай бұрын
Yes, a is in general complex!
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to refer to some basic background on maths of material you presented ? i can get the basic concepts in QM but find how the concepts related to vector space and dual space confusing ....it seems to be related to concepts in measure theory?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
For a "physics" approach to these concepts, the quantum mechanics books I like include: Chapter 1 of "Modern Quantum Mechanics" by Sakurai, Chapter 2 of "Quantum Mechanics" by Cohen-Tannoudji, Chapter 7 of "Quantum Mechanics" by Messiah, or Chapter 1 of "Principles of Quantum Mechanics" by Shankar. I hope this helps!
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thx
@SorenAndersen-kt8sb
@SorenAndersen-kt8sb Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience Жыл бұрын
Thanks! :)
@hassanchhaiba154
@hassanchhaiba154 4 жыл бұрын
Awsome, now i understand this. So the |psi>|
@hassanchhaiba154
@hassanchhaiba154 4 жыл бұрын
Oooh i understand know. Yupiiiiii
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 4 жыл бұрын
|psi>
@nomanahmadkhan7791
@nomanahmadkhan7791 2 жыл бұрын
In the start of video you said that a vector space equipped with inner product is Hilbert space. So, is Euclidean space a Hilbert space?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Euclidean vector space is an example of a Hilbert space.
@zray2937
@zray2937 2 жыл бұрын
R3 is indeed a Hilbert Space. However, in the infinite-dimensional case, the existence of the inner product is not enough, to be a Hilbert space every Cauchy sequence of vectors has to converge to an element of the given space.
@torebektoregozhin4626
@torebektoregozhin4626 Жыл бұрын
Bro, I watched 17 min video just to find out that 'ket' is a column vector and 'bra' is its conjugate transpose. Insane!
@ajilbabu13
@ajilbabu13 3 жыл бұрын
Hai prof, In classical physics we define spaces like Configuration space (for Lagrangian formulation) Phase space (for Hamiltonian formulation) Then where do we use The euclidean space for defining the classical systems? Here in both of the spaces mentioned above can have any dimension, So when we compare the spaces why dont we take these spaces into our consideration Regards
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback -- all I wanted here was a simple analogy with a familiar vector space, and many students have not yet covered Lagrangian or Hamiltonian classical mechanics when they first start studying quantum mechanics, hence the comparison with a 3D Euclidean space.
@ajilbabu13
@ajilbabu13 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience thanks for the reply
@MindaugasSarpis
@MindaugasSarpis 3 жыл бұрын
This is very nice! Thanks!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! :)
@richardthomas3577
@richardthomas3577 2 жыл бұрын
Very clear!
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@subochanda4737
@subochanda4737 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on Majorana representation in QM
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 3 жыл бұрын
One silly question on double slit experiment. Is it possible to derive the interference pattern projected on the screen from the wave equation psi.? Is it possible to quantify the interference pattern directly as a psi function( how to experimentally indicate intensity via brightness ? ) if Yes, please provide a source. I understand that double slit experiment with photons just show that a particle behaves as a wave. Interference pattern can be explained to occur using wave theory and occurs naturally as a wave waves. I understand the location of constructive patterns derived via wave thory and sin (Bragg Law etc).
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Interference in quantum mechanics is indeed obtained directly from the wave function of the system. It arises from the so-called "cross terms", which are essential to reproduce the correct interference pattern for any quantum particle. We briefly touch on interference in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goOYnJmep9hnecU I hope this helps!
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thanks for response. Is there a mathematical basis to only retain the Re term of the cross product.( I hated it during High School that Physics Prof goes that as we live in the real world, we retain the real terms.....It is fine if we confine to only positive real numbers from the beginning.). Without understanding the maths involved, it appear to be similar to curve fitting, at least for me. One more thing, do you have a source which which explains in detail the correlation between the actual interference pattern and wave function. (just like the century classic Hyugens wave circles and interference pattern ) Thank in advance
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
The key is that we do not only retain the real part, we must include the full complex nature of the wave function to get the correct answer, so your high school teacher was wrong on this point. The probability of the particle being somewhere (the intensity you are referring to) is equal to the absolute value squared of the wave function. This quantity is real, but if you calculated it only from the real part of the wave function you wouldn't get the correct answer because you'd be missing the intereference terms. As to resources, I think most quantum mechanics textbooks will have a discussion of this, but a good concrete resource may be the Feynman lectures. I hope this helps!
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Just to sure we are on the same page, I rephrase my query. At time 7.28 of video kzbin.info/www/bejne/goOYnJmep9hnecU , you state that only the Real part of the 3 rd term is valid.term. Why do we only include the Real part and ignore the Imaginary part ? Other than textbooks declaring that we take only the Real part as we live in the Real world and such results correspond to expirements, is there a valid mathematical reason to ignore the imaginary part?. I am perfectly happy to use this convienient trick in electricity but have difficulties to accept in in Quantum mechanics Cheers
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, I see. I am *not* taking the real part and ignoring the imaginary part in that step, we are including all terms but the final expression just happens to depend on the real part only. To see this, let me first simplify notation. What we have to evaluate is the absolute value squared of the sum of two complex numbers: |z1+z2|^2, where z1=a1+ib1 (the c1 in the video) and z2=a2+ib2 (the c2 in the video). This is equal to: |z1+z2|^2 = (z1+z2)* x (z1+z2) by definition of absolute value squared, and where "*" means complex conjugate and "x" means multiplication. For the next step, we multiply the terms through (this is the step missing in the video): z1* x z1 + z1* x z2 + z2* x z1 + z2* x z2 (1) I am calling this "equation (1)", because we will come to it later. The first term is simply z1* x z1 = |z1|^2 and the last term is z2* x z2 = |z2|^2. To see that the two middle terms combine to something real, we calculate: z1* x z2 + z2* x z1 = (a1 + ib1)* x (a2 + ib2) + (a2 + ib2)* x (a1 + ib1) where I have expanded z1 and z2 in terms of their real parts (a1 and a2) and their imaginary parts (b1 and b2). Then we can use the definition of complex conjugate to change i to -i and get: (a1 - ib1) x (a2 + ib2) + (a2 - ib2) x (a1 + ib1) Then we can carry out the multiplication to get: a1xa2 + a1 x (ib2) - ib1 x a2 - i^2 b1xb2 + a2xa1 + a2x(ib1) -ib2 x a1 -i^2 b2xb1 Using i^2=-1, we get: a1xa2 + i a1 x b2 - i b1 x a2 + b1xb2 + a2xa1 + i a2xb1 -ib2 x a1+ b2xb1 The second term (ia1xb2) cancels with the 7th term (-ib2xa1) and the third term (-ib1xa2) cancels with the sixth term (ia2xb1), so we end up with: a1xa2+b1xb2+ a2xa1+ b2xb1 = 2 (a1xa2+b1xb2) Note that we have not made any approximation. This term is equal to 2xRe[z1xz2*], which is what I use in the video. To see this, note: z1xz2* = (a1+ib1)x(a2+ib2)* = (a1+ib1)x(a2-ib2) = a1xa2 -i a1xb2 + ib1xa2 -i^2xb1xb2 = a1xa2 +b1xb2 + i (b1xa2 - a1xb2) where in the last step I re-ordered some terms and used i^2=-1. From this expression, we get: 2xRe[z1xz2*] = 2(a1xa2 +b1xb2). Finally, we can combine this latest result with the one above, to see that the two middle terms in equation (1) above are equal to 2xRe[z1xz2*]. Therefore, without neglecting any terms, we have shown that: |z1+z2|^2 = |z1|^2 + |z2|^2 + 2xRe[z1xz2*] This is the relation I used in the video, and it is exact, I have not neglected any imaginary parts. I hope this helps clarify that maths!
@rodrigoappendino
@rodrigoappendino 3 жыл бұрын
"We want to be able to describe operation on vectors in both space, SO in both spaces we define inner product" This means that applying an operator on a vector is an inner product between both?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Applying an operator on a vector is not equivalent to calculating the inner product. An operator A applied to a vector |psi> gives another vector, A|psi>=|phi>. By contrast, the inner product between two vectors gives a scalar, =c. We go into some detail about operators and their properties in this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfnb10T_COKPozxEYzEKDwns
@rodrigoappendino
@rodrigoappendino 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience But why it is necessary to define an inner product to describe operations on vectors?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
First, a disclaimer: I am no expert in the basic mathematics of this. But let me just say that the inner product space in quantum mechanics is used so that we can have a self-adjoint operator (i.e. a Hermitian operator). For more general operators, I imagine that it is possible to define them without reference to an inner product.
@way2nasty533
@way2nasty533 4 жыл бұрын
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@zlaticakaluzna8617
@zlaticakaluzna8617 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, would it be possible to get these notes so I can use them in my studies? Thank you :)
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don't have written notes, but if you think they would be useful we can add this to our list of things to do moving forward... thanks!
@zlaticakaluzna8617
@zlaticakaluzna8617 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Yeah, that would be very helpful actually, it takes some time to rewrite it, so I think it would be better to have more time of recalling in mind, what we have on paper :) or in pdf, whatever. But very nice videos! I'm going to check them all to my QM course ;)
@stranger3944
@stranger3944 2 жыл бұрын
Is this video series for undergraduate level?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
At Cambridge we teach this level between second and third year undergraduate; it could be slightly different at other places...
@salmanbhuttaaa
@salmanbhuttaaa 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ♥
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@zeio-nara
@zeio-nara 3 жыл бұрын
Why scalar product in the complex space is >= 0 (10:00) ? What about i*i = -1? So it turns out that SP((0, i), (0, i)) = 0*0 + i*i = -1 which is less than zero. Maybe I miss something and the video would be better if there are some examples.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
Note that the scalar product in a complex vector space is antilinear in the first argument. This means that to calculate the scalar product of (0,i) with itself, you have (using row and column vectors): row(0 -i) column(0 i) = 0 -i*i = 1 Hope this helps!
@zeio-nara
@zeio-nara 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ProfessorMdoesScience Ok, thank you, then it's clear, I though that it should be >=0 for any pair of vectors
@TheWingEmpire
@TheWingEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
So if the vector space is infinite dimensional, can we write the linear maps existing in it as matrices? Is a state space non Euclidean? What would be it's space metric? Nice video though 👍
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
In principle you could organize an infinite range of numbers in matrix form. However, as you probably suspect, in practice that would be impossible to do on paper or in a computer. In reality, when we solve quantum mechanical problems, even if the state space is infinite, we often have to truncate it to finite dimensions to be able to do the calculations. When we do this, the use of the matrix formulation becomes the best approach.
@TheWingEmpire
@TheWingEmpire 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience okay I understand:)
@zray2937
@zray2937 2 жыл бұрын
There is a metric in the space of pure states, it is called the Fubini-Study Metric. It arises from the inner product.
@TheWingEmpire
@TheWingEmpire 2 жыл бұрын
@@zray2937 thank you for the information
@lepidoptera9337
@lepidoptera9337 6 ай бұрын
Matrices are not identical to linear operators. The transition from one to the other is neither smooth nor trivial in general. A simple demonstration of that is e.g. the Gibbs phenomenon in Fourier analysis, which shows that we can not get pointwise convergence for arbitrary functions. This is all well worked out in functional analysis, of course. It's not something the physicist has to be concerned with much. The far more interesting question for physicists is where these linear spaces come from in the first place. It turns out that they derive (almost trivially) from Kolmogorov's axioms for ensembles, but that is rarely mentioned in either QM lectures or standard QM textbooks. At least I am not aware of common textbooks that take the time to derive the formalism from its actual roots.
@sneharai5137
@sneharai5137 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video👌🏻
@patrickfox8620
@patrickfox8620 3 жыл бұрын
In what sense is state space 'Infinite D'? I am used to writing down my kets as column vectors of finite length (usually 3), so wouldn't this mean a 3-D state space?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct that in the matrix formulation of quantum mechanics, the dimension of the state space is equal to the length of the column vectors that represent kets. The dimension of the state space depends on the system, for example it is 2-dimension for a spin-1/2 system, and infinite dimensional for a particle moving in 3D space. What system are you investigating that has a 3-dimensional state space?
@patrickfox8620
@patrickfox8620 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thanks for the reply. It wasn't any particular system that I had in mind, I just remember solving QM problems with finite-dimensional state spaces so the 'Infinite D' statement confused me. To clarify, if you had a particle moving in 3D space would the classical description be 3D, i.e. could be represented by a 3D column vector with real number entries? Whereas the QM state space would be an infinite-length column vector (also with entries from the reals?)?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
In the matrix formulation, a 3D particle would indeed be represented by an "infinite" column vector. However, note that the entries could in general be complex numbers. In practical calculations, we cannot use infinite dimensional bases, so they are invariably approximated with finite-dimensional basis. I hope this helps!
@patrickfox8620
@patrickfox8620 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thanks a lot and nice videos!
@adampawlik7871
@adampawlik7871 4 ай бұрын
10:49 error !
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 4 ай бұрын
You are absolutely correc there is a typo in that expression! We do know about this, but good that you realised too :)
@nomanahmadkhan7791
@nomanahmadkhan7791 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping in mind that a ket contains information about a physical system I have a question. Whether bras are just a mathematical obligation to complete the theory or they have their own physical significance too?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Bras contain the same physical information as kets, so if I understand your question correctly, they are simply a mathematical tool (the elements of the dual space).
@nomanahmadkhan7791
@nomanahmadkhan7791 2 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thanks, it's clear now.
@chemistryscience4320
@chemistryscience4320 3 жыл бұрын
Im getting confused ... so is this true ?? = |Ψ>* = *|Ψ>) ? :(
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I follow your notation, can you expand on what you mean by each step?
@chemistryscience4320
@chemistryscience4320 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Hey Professor thanks for answering :D Amm .. yes so what i was wondering is .. generally in Quantum mechanics we used the square of the wave function to give physical meaning. And usually is written as the scalar product of the wave function with itself, these is the integral of the complex conjugate of the function and the original function.So .. by these notation .. the bra is the complex conjugate of its corresponding ket ? And would these give always a real number or a real function ?
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 3 жыл бұрын
@@chemistryscience4320 Thanks for the clarification. Yes, when written in the position representation in terms of wave functions, the bra corresponds to the complex conjugate wave function of the ket, and the scalar product of a ket with itself (its corresponding bra) is always a real non-negative number. We explain how to build the wave function (position) representation from kets and bras in the following playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PL8W2boV7eVfnHHCwSB7Y0jtvyWkN49UaZ I hope this helps!
@chemistryscience4320
@chemistryscience4320 3 жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorMdoesScience Thank you very much :D :D Since i found your videos my rigurosity in Quantum Physics has been improving :) So thank you very much !!
@alexmaciver-redwood3081
@alexmaciver-redwood3081 7 ай бұрын
surely r1 and r1 belong to the same vector space namely R3 euclidean space
@amaljeevk3950
@amaljeevk3950 Жыл бұрын
@i.m.Q.2
@i.m.Q.2 2 жыл бұрын
Dirac notation? Funny how I u see that via the Dirac delta intuitively without knowing what greens theory was. I still have the original as capt breyer joyner stole it and then mike Rogers took it to try to sell to Russia and general dynamics. What did the feds do? They were in on it and forced me to this day to deal with it! You still allow me to be bullied, stolen from, play road games? This is the thanks I get for Savannah and Putin's bullshit? That's protecting me. Right? Why dont you just give xi un kohmebi and putin my phone number. Oh wait you tried and supposedly prevented that yet it happens how damn often?
@jupironnie1
@jupironnie1 2 жыл бұрын
.Here is a useful 60 page document for those who want to wet their toes in the maths ocean or jargon of the maths involved. I used this article from David Miller. It is not meant for mathematicians. I started out surprised that the real number of complex number multiplication has something to do with reality (ha ha....) web.stanford.edu/group/dabmgroup/cgi-bin/dabm/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/O18.pdf He has a series of video lectures, too which complements M series. I found his FAQ sections very useful/productive. These address many common queries. Maybe M might consider to produce a FAQ clip, too.
@ProfessorMdoesScience
@ProfessorMdoesScience 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reference and suggestion!
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