Direct Knowledge | Swami Sarvapriyananda

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Vedanta Society of New York

Vedanta Society of New York

3 жыл бұрын

Swami Sarvapriyananda speaks on the fifth stage of knowledge (Direct Knowledge - Aparoksha-Jnana) as taught in the 7th chapter of Pancadasi (by Vidyaranya). This discourse is inspired by a verse from the Brihadharanyaka Upanishad (Mantra 4.4.12): "If a man knows the Self as ‘I am this,’ then desiring what and for whose sake will he suffer in the wake of the body?"
Mantra 4.4.12:
आत्मानं चेद्विजानीयादयमस्मीति पूरुषः ।
किमिच्छन्कस्य कामाय शरीरमनुसंज्वरेत् ॥ १२
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@Sabyasachi_De
@Sabyasachi_De 3 жыл бұрын
I once asked Swamiji in a Facebook Live event that " Apart from illumination can consciousness influence the Five sheets of the body ? " Swamiji explained how consciousness experiences consciousness.. we experience ourselves as consciousness which is witnessing the entire universe is also the existence of the universe.. Following his videos on Manisha Panchakam.. Aparoksha Anubhati Mandukya Karika and Astavakra Gita cleared my doubt 99% but this last 3 videos of Lamp of Bliss.. Tenth Man and Direct Knowledge made it 100%.. Swamiji is incredible.. A gift to humanity.. Forever Indebt and Grateful 🙏🙏 🙏
@asokeroy8409
@asokeroy8409 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, You are absolutely right.
@zubedarseeraj5146
@zubedarseeraj5146 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said!👍🙏🙏🙏❤
@bluenotebook489
@bluenotebook489 3 жыл бұрын
It can become 100 percent only through experience
@Sabyasachi_De
@Sabyasachi_De 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluenotebook489 True👍
@saraswatichatterjee2780
@saraswatichatterjee2780 3 жыл бұрын
Maharaj pronam naben..
@vectravi2008
@vectravi2008 3 жыл бұрын
What a pity politicians of the world don't take onboard these teaching. If they did and put them into practice the world would be a happier and safer place for all 🙏
@unstoppablezone4980
@unstoppablezone4980 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the point of the teachings is to make a better world. The point is to stop believing in the world we think we see and return to the I AM...at least...I THINK so!
@misterree1443
@misterree1443 3 жыл бұрын
There is alot of investment in knowledge being unknown. Its a futile attempt to be Krishna.
@amitnicmar1
@amitnicmar1 3 жыл бұрын
@john..this journey is alone, experiences are varied and introspective. This is not possible for community /World leaders. One has to drive with inner zeal and search for self... Wonderful experience
@arete7884
@arete7884 2 жыл бұрын
@@unstoppablezone4980 agreed
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
Too often the approach of nonduality teaching is restricted to gaining self-realization, minimizing the suffering of the world as being "just" the result of illusion and ignorance of the true self. But I believe that any valid path to self-realization must develop a strong sense of ethics, including the desire to end suffering, even if we know it is in a real sense unnecessary, temporary, or rooted in illusion. I do believe that a better world is possible in this dream universe, even if no one ever woke up to full self-realization, simply by helping where and when we can. Yes, a utopia is not likely to happen anytime soon on the global level without transformation of the individuals, but any improvement in the current deplorable state of the world will help and is worth doing, to whatever extent we are able.
@gurucharansarojraj
@gurucharansarojraj 3 жыл бұрын
Really, I have no words to describe this holy man, a definite incarnation for the salvation of humanity ! Infinite pranaams to your Holy Feet Gurudev ! 🙏🙏🙏
@zubedarseeraj5146
@zubedarseeraj5146 3 жыл бұрын
I think he was introduced to us only by the grace of God!!🙏🙏🙏Pranam and blessings to All!
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
We are so fortunate that by the grace of the one consciousness we have alive today teachers of reality who speak clearly and specifically to everyone in this suffering world of the effortless knowledge and practice of effective paths to self-realization.
@tejashboda1866
@tejashboda1866 Жыл бұрын
🙏
@meerasshetty8185
@meerasshetty8185 11 ай бұрын
Pranamas Swamiji
@bhagwanmishra7243
@bhagwanmishra7243 Жыл бұрын
एतद्देश प्रसूतस्य शकासात् अग्र जन्मन: ।स्वे स्वे धर्मं प्रशीक्षेरन् पृथिव्यां सर्वं मानवा:।। भगवान आदि मनु के इस आदेश को अच्छी प्रकार से पालन करने वाले और स्व धर्म आत्म ज्ञान का प्रचार प्रसार करने वाले परम आदरणीय स्वामी श्री सर्वप्रियानंद के चरण कमलों में कोटि कोटि प्रणाम।
@ssudhak2
@ssudhak2 Жыл бұрын
Swamiji is a combination of traditional Pandit and modern day teacher.
@Selvakumar-cd5gr
@Selvakumar-cd5gr 27 күн бұрын
சர்வ தேடல்கள் முழுவதும் உன் திரு நினைவோடு. ஓம் நமசிவாய
@victoriahangula382
@victoriahangula382 3 жыл бұрын
I have been following your classes and I am intoxicated by the awakening, thank you for sharing truth in such symplicity 😇🙏
@bornuponawave
@bornuponawave 3 жыл бұрын
Who is intoxicated?
@shamaamit8157
@shamaamit8157 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up. Regular practice is the key
@ashamundra3241
@ashamundra3241 2 жыл бұрын
@@shamaamit8157 /-2
@Vision_Of_Realities
@Vision_Of_Realities Жыл бұрын
Jai Sri Ramakrishna 🙏🌺
@unstoppablezone4980
@unstoppablezone4980 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful teacher. I am so grateful to find him. I AM the tenth man!
@mukeshdesai2862
@mukeshdesai2862 3 жыл бұрын
3:54. Panchkosh vilakshanatma 6:40. 7 stages of spiritual life 11:24. Aparoksh Gnan 13:30Journey from i(ignorance)to I (Knowledge) 58:55. SatChittAnand. MIMP 1:02:30. Avantar 1:03:30 1:08:00. Mahavakyas. 1:09:25
@pramodrai3199
@pramodrai3199 11 ай бұрын
Pranam Swami Jee 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@haradhandhak6145
@haradhandhak6145 Жыл бұрын
Hari 🕉 pronam sawmije
@deadvirgo
@deadvirgo 2 жыл бұрын
Swami Sarvapriyananda, you are a flame in the dark. 🙏
@AbhayMishra-xw9kz
@AbhayMishra-xw9kz 3 жыл бұрын
One day I realized something and that was very momentary... It was when I was teaching one of my student about refraction and why the bottom of tank appears less deep than it is actually when filled with water. It's because rays which entering our eyes actually bend at the water -air interface. But our eye knows only that "rays travel in the straight line" And suddenly it came in my mind "then who knows about bending".. I don't know but at least I got to know that we should not recognize ourself with our sensory organs... Yet we remain victim to our senses only
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
"Who knows about bending" of course points to the intellect, which is part of the mind. The mind has learned about refraction from books, classes, experiments, and problem-solving. So we have the sequence: perception through the sense of vision, interpretation of a shallow bottom by the visual processing system, then a formless (intuitive or thought-based) self-correction through the intellect. This is a beautiful analogy with how we suffer through limitations of the mind and our attachment to those limitations, and how that suffering can be corrected or ended by the infusion of the brightness and spaciousness of our true Self, formless, unbounded, and timeless pure consciousness.
@laika5757
@laika5757 3 жыл бұрын
A fantastic Guru...on a fantastic path. Advaita...the personification of Truth.
@DrCSK369
@DrCSK369 3 жыл бұрын
Another excellent talk by swamiji. When one keeps on listening to swamiji talks one could go closer and close to the reality Brahman. There is no need for special meditation.
@somabiswas2163
@somabiswas2163 3 жыл бұрын
Swamiji pronam. .. you are a wonderful teacher ... It is through you Ramakrishna thakur is conveying knowledge to each one of us ... hope we all be enlightened in this very birth
@user-xq6hl3ts5d
@user-xq6hl3ts5d 6 ай бұрын
Hari om tatsat Swamiji🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@BenitaWinckler
@BenitaWinckler 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kind teacher 🙏✨
@bunghybunghy8153
@bunghybunghy8153 2 жыл бұрын
happiness comes to me every time i hear swami speaking🕉
@veenakathuria6147
@veenakathuria6147 8 ай бұрын
Everytime I listen to Swamiji, it's like true self has been unveiled
@akgupta144
@akgupta144 2 жыл бұрын
Swami Sarvppriyanandji is an enlightened person
@vksenapati2908
@vksenapati2908 Жыл бұрын
Vivid explanation of vedant. Pranaam moharaj
@cavaturnagesh
@cavaturnagesh 6 ай бұрын
great exposition Swamiji; I am following your videos faithfully.
@johnathanedwards8430
@johnathanedwards8430 Жыл бұрын
I am Brahman, that Direct Realization causes the chains of samsara to disappear and the will to live in a body in a world also vanishes, as well as the seeking of the fruit of samsara as well as the desire to know the world becomes illusory. Thank You Swami. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@Sarvamkhalvidambrahman
@Sarvamkhalvidambrahman 3 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏 pronam swamiji eto din kolkatae theke belur math ghurte gechi kintu apnake shune bujhte parlam belur math er mahtwa🙏🙏
@patelsatishcpa
@patelsatishcpa 3 жыл бұрын
Pranam Swamiji
@sharadmehendale1930
@sharadmehendale1930 Жыл бұрын
अद्भुत, निर्मल आनंद
@arundhatimukherjee2274
@arundhatimukherjee2274 3 жыл бұрын
Maharaj pronam janai .
@nedbless
@nedbless 3 жыл бұрын
A super guru . Thank you .
@anagha.aniruddha16
@anagha.aniruddha16 3 жыл бұрын
हरी: ऊॅं तत्सत् 🙏🏻 श्रीरामकृष्णार्पणमस्तु 🙏🏻 Namaskar Swami Sarvapriyanandaji 🙏🏻 Thank you Vedanta New York for sharing this video 🙏🏻
@Ramachandra-fd7mv
@Ramachandra-fd7mv 3 жыл бұрын
Jai Sri Sharada Maa, Jai Sri RamaKrishna, Jai Sri Swami Vivekananda, Jai Jai Sri Swami Sarvapriyananda.Jai Jai Jai. Jai all 135 cr people India Free from CORONAVIRUS. Jai Jai Healthy people of India and the World.
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the impact of Covid on India has been due to failure of the government to educate the population about the need to wear a mask, to be apart from other bodies, to wash hands, and other precautions. A danger has been caused by the tendency to meet together in large groups for religious or sports reasons, and to bathe in the Ganga without taking precautions. Just my opinion!
@laika5757
@laika5757 3 жыл бұрын
Music to my ears... 🎼🎶🎶🎸
@ritabiswas6688
@ritabiswas6688 2 жыл бұрын
Maharaaj pronam. You are shifting up all the angularity and melancholy from our mind. 🙏🙏🙏
@absolute7433
@absolute7433 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for teaching.
@belabasuroy9551
@belabasuroy9551 3 жыл бұрын
প্রণাম মহারাজ 🙏🙏
@mdg767
@mdg767 2 ай бұрын
Namaste sir 🙏🏻
@mrsastroloverLeo
@mrsastroloverLeo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Swami ji!🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
@user-kb5bm7re5q
@user-kb5bm7re5q 8 ай бұрын
Thank u thank u thank u ❤❤
@sunshowerpainting1
@sunshowerpainting1 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained!
@sureshchandrapanigrahi8182
@sureshchandrapanigrahi8182 3 жыл бұрын
I am Brahman, blessed with satsang. Humble pronam to Poojya Swamiji.🙏🌷 With this talk Swamiji's Aprokhya Anubhuti may please be followed to get more details.
@user-vu6ih3in8d
@user-vu6ih3in8d 5 ай бұрын
This your sayings made me peaceful in my mind...thanks 😊
@chintanbhatt552
@chintanbhatt552 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent .....this is highness of Indian spirituality 🙏
@monicatalukdar9696
@monicatalukdar9696 2 жыл бұрын
Monica Talukdar Very inspiring! A complicated subject explained so beautifully which can be understood even by the ignorant and the illiterate. Thankyou Gurudev for leading us from darkness to light 🙏🙏🙏
@sourabh369
@sourabh369 3 жыл бұрын
Great luck of those who listen SwamiJi! What a great charm of His! Extremely pleasing is to hear & see Him! Unbelievably beneficial presence is His!
@jagdishprasad9654
@jagdishprasad9654 2 жыл бұрын
Very
@jagdishprasad9654
@jagdishprasad9654 2 жыл бұрын
L99
@meerasshetty8185
@meerasshetty8185 11 ай бұрын
You are great Swamiji
@arete7884
@arete7884 2 жыл бұрын
Never cared for this until direct experience, after listening it made sense and was accurate and can be confirmed in ones knowledge/experience
@dipalibiswas8873
@dipalibiswas8873 2 жыл бұрын
Being the Witness Consciousness and knowing that I'm not the body, mind complex, nor the 5 koshas or the 3 states of waking, dream and deep sleep , this inner journey from the little self to the Higher Self is indeed beyond description! How explicitly Swamiji you have presented the Direct Knowledge to us! Our Koti koti Naman at your feet. Jai Gurudev. 🙏🙏🙏
@shikhararora5199
@shikhararora5199 7 ай бұрын
There is no higher and lower self. Its nonduality. There is only Consciousness. Not a higher or lower self. The lower self you mentioned is an appearance.
@kishoreramakrishnan2559
@kishoreramakrishnan2559 3 жыл бұрын
Grateful to Swamiji and the entire team for sharing such an incredible talk. Your service to mankind by imparting the highest knowledge is highly commendable. I consider myself incredibly fortunate to be at the receiving end of such priceless spiritual treasures - something i think is much needed and timely as the world navigates through the global pandemic and regional conflicts.
@hiranmoydas298
@hiranmoydas298 5 ай бұрын
প্রণাম মহারাজ ***
@gireeshneroth7127
@gireeshneroth7127 8 ай бұрын
Living a mind wake consciousness sensually actualizes itself.
@sumitachakraborty8400
@sumitachakraborty8400 3 жыл бұрын
Pronam Swamiji
@mokshajetley9244
@mokshajetley9244 2 жыл бұрын
Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna Jai Sri Ramakrishna
@njeyasreedharan
@njeyasreedharan 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation of 'direct knowledge' I have heard to date. We are gifted to hear this talk. I am this, I am, I am that.
@Absolutely-nothing80
@Absolutely-nothing80 3 жыл бұрын
You are Nobody
@bluenotebook489
@bluenotebook489 3 жыл бұрын
You are nothing and you are everything 0 and 1
@njeyasreedharan
@njeyasreedharan 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluenotebook489I know you know.
@tolifeandlearning3919
@tolifeandlearning3919 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Swamiji.
@sumatin8056
@sumatin8056 3 жыл бұрын
Guru Govind dono khade Kake lagu paay Balihari Guru Aapke Govind diyo milay . Pranam Gurudeva 🙏🙏🙏
@satyanarayanakalisetti9922
@satyanarayanakalisetti9922 2 жыл бұрын
Jai Gurudev, Thank you Swamiji for your wodeful Lecture
@ashiskarmakar7292
@ashiskarmakar7292 2 жыл бұрын
Indirect and direct experience came from words
@sohamdalal
@sohamdalal 2 жыл бұрын
Gratitude and respect to Vedanta society
@SuperRajendrasinh
@SuperRajendrasinh 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you swami ji
@pushpabansal4270
@pushpabansal4270 3 жыл бұрын
🙏💖Pranam Swamiji 💖🙏 🙏💖wonderful explanation 💖🙏
@ramakrishnahari6976
@ramakrishnahari6976 3 жыл бұрын
Namaste 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@anshikabansal1128
@anshikabansal1128 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that KZbin randomly suggested Swamiji. I feel blessed and grateful. Swamiji, you made our ancient wisdom so easy to understand. The purity of his thought is reflected by his smiling serene face. May my innocent soul learn and practice his teachings throughout my life.
@richgraham7822
@richgraham7822 3 жыл бұрын
right on. Sadhguru for stories and Swami Sarvapriyananda for scripture. I love them both
@Ramachandra-fd7mv
@Ramachandra-fd7mv 2 жыл бұрын
@@richgraham7822 very true.
@arete7884
@arete7884 2 жыл бұрын
@@richgraham7822 sadhguru seems quite egoic not alike this swami, rather listen to this one ,eckhart tolle,alan watts ,krishanmurtis
@nileshlolayekar4922
@nileshlolayekar4922 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you , this one hour of knowledge has enriched my life ! 🙏
@thyagarajanradhakrishan2327
@thyagarajanradhakrishan2327 3 жыл бұрын
Jai Jai Swamy Sarvapriyandha maharaja ki jai
@rishitaghosh6142
@rishitaghosh6142 3 жыл бұрын
He is the best teacher . Best Guru. Only listening him we can understand that ultimate reality . Swami ji =sath chit Ananda.
@shivsivaram9872
@shivsivaram9872 3 жыл бұрын
Again beautiful 🌺🙏🌹
@dancingemptiness777
@dancingemptiness777 2 жыл бұрын
I love you master, I bow to you谢谢您 我爱您
@anooradharavi2927
@anooradharavi2927 3 жыл бұрын
🙏Pranam Guruji.....so wonderful , enlightening the entire session.....am blessed to listen to this most illuminating teachings..🙏🙏🙏🙏 Thanks
@parthapratimb2
@parthapratimb2 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear this speech it gives me new direction to think about. It makes me feel tranquillized.
@beachboxrealty
@beachboxrealty 2 жыл бұрын
Yes these talks that me to a peacefull place that cannot compare to anything except maybe love itself.
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
@@beachboxrealty The peace and happiness generated by contact with the unlimited Self radiates in love through the impulses of the heart and beauty through the senses of perception.
@njeyasreedharan
@njeyasreedharan 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I can safely say that 'those who know can also speak'!
@njeyasreedharan
@njeyasreedharan 3 жыл бұрын
.. and speak so eloquently and passionately.
@Ramachandra-fd7mv
@Ramachandra-fd7mv 2 жыл бұрын
Aham Brahmasmi.
@misterree1443
@misterree1443 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you so much. Hare Krishna.
@-report1070
@-report1070 3 жыл бұрын
vivekananda of our time.
@careerlyyoursyourscareerly2832
@careerlyyoursyourscareerly2832 2 жыл бұрын
Direct - प्रत्यक्ष, Indirect - अप्रत्यक्ष / परोक्ष… Do not get confused Swami Ji… 🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
I do not believe that Swami Sarvapriyananda, who is knowledgeable, could have been confused. Please provide details of your correction and a reliable reference supporting your claim that Swami was wrong.
@rammehrotra6502
@rammehrotra6502 3 жыл бұрын
Pranam swamiji . your teachings are amazing .
@joy12345678909
@joy12345678909 3 жыл бұрын
Seems to me the matter is simple. It is an ancient and noble philosophy. It is presented as if it is something intellectually very high, because that entertains the modern mind.
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get this feeling from his talks. I get the feeling that he presents the knowledge very clearly, and not as an entertainment for the mind, which would have no useful effect.
@ashiskarmakar7292
@ashiskarmakar7292 2 жыл бұрын
55,100... Silence is best explanation of bramhan
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966
@dr.susheelkhemariya8966 3 жыл бұрын
Bahut. Bahut. Gretitude. Thanks.
@njeyasreedharan
@njeyasreedharan 3 жыл бұрын
Thanking you Swamiji.
@kamalsworld1
@kamalsworld1 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful enlightening ❤️🙏🏻
@madhujain2452
@madhujain2452 2 жыл бұрын
Pranams Gurudev 🙏
@savitrivasaikar9273
@savitrivasaikar9273 2 жыл бұрын
Pranam Maharaj 🙏🙏
@binagarg6953
@binagarg6953 3 жыл бұрын
Pranam Maharaj ji Amazing talk. I love it. Thank you.🙏🙏😂😂
@sandeepbodh1
@sandeepbodh1 3 жыл бұрын
Jai gurudev
@saritabhatia473
@saritabhatia473 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u swamiji for the wonderful explanation of the direct knowledge, so clearly & so precise. Beautiful 🙏🙏🙏🕉
@jitukajal
@jitukajal 2 жыл бұрын
धन्यवाद आप अद्वैत में मेरे गुरू हैं।
@ashiskarmakar7292
@ashiskarmakar7292 2 жыл бұрын
41,42,43,44,45 knowledge
@meerakale3694
@meerakale3694 2 жыл бұрын
Shrigurudeodatt Sadgunath Maharaj ki jay Infinite pranam on your feet
@aksharma4304
@aksharma4304 3 жыл бұрын
Happy thoughts...
@higherandhigher5848
@higherandhigher5848 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative presentation.
@mahendrashukla1895
@mahendrashukla1895 3 жыл бұрын
Splendid Explanation.
@sarmisthasingha915
@sarmisthasingha915 2 жыл бұрын
Listening him itself a great peace 🙏
@reghumohan
@reghumohan 2 жыл бұрын
Pranamam..... Swamiji.....
@perumalselvaraj4262
@perumalselvaraj4262 3 жыл бұрын
Namaskar Swamiji. The words of the upanishads and the words of you are purely directed towards "enlightenment", in other words all your efforts are leading us towards enlightenment. His purpose will be fulfilled by the grace which we are receiving through the enlightened master "Guru".
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
And they make us realize that self-realization is not far away. It is a simple recognition of who and what we already are. We spend so much time searching for peace and happiness that we keep overlooking that we are already made of knowingness, pure awareness, which is much more than just peace and happiness.
@rajeshacharya1580
@rajeshacharya1580 3 жыл бұрын
हरि ॐ तत्सत 🙏
@jalajamenon8664
@jalajamenon8664 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Swaliju🙏🙏🙏
@meerabhide4888
@meerabhide4888 3 жыл бұрын
हरिःओम्,प्रणाम, स्वामीजी.
@meerabhide4888
@meerabhide4888 2 жыл бұрын
हरिःऊँ, प्रणाम, स्वामीजी।
@nonametosee4456
@nonametosee4456 2 жыл бұрын
you and Rupurt Spira have expalined rhings in a non word kind of way- through your voices. (And, the other Rupert, the scientist). thank you
@majak.t.135
@majak.t.135 3 жыл бұрын
I am greatfull for these lectures being awailable ! I have learned so much from you and I have just scratched the surface of this wast knowledge - I am thrilled !!! :) :) :)
@david203
@david203 2 жыл бұрын
And all that vast knowledge is already inside yourself, ready to be experienced and lived.
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