DIRT CHEAP Fifty-Foot Custom DREAM Yacht! Is She Worth It? [Full Tour] Learning the Lines

1984 Custom Cantieri Navali Scia 50
"Constellation" is rigged as a high aspect ratio staysail schooner. She was built in Genoa, Italy on a semi-custom basis. Down below there are four staterooms plus two heads. There is a very extensive sail inventory plus complete electronics.
The boat has been sitting in covered storage and has some mold down below, however the price is likely negotiable, and may be an opportunity for someone looking for a big boat for a relatively affordable price.
"Constellation'' has a very unique layout; there is a private stateroom aft with port and starboard berths and ample storage. Moving forward there is an aft head and a nice u-shaped galley on the port and a forward facing navigation station on the starboard side. The salon has two straight settees and a large center mounted table with two fold out leaves. Continuing forward there are two private staterooms with upper and lower bunks. Both of these staterooms have doors going into a forward
head. Beyond the head is a v-berth with storage.
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Asking Price: $85,000 USD (Negotiable)
Listing info:
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Listed with Holland Yacht Sales in Macatawa, MI.
Contact Henry DeJong at 616-443-1435 for more information.
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[@johnyalowica8423]

I bought this sailboat! Just doing paperwork!

[@devonmike]

How much did you pay for it?

[@johnyalowica8423]

I got it for a good price!

[@WaveformV1.0]

Nice dude, hope it is going well for ya

[@johnyalowica8423]

It is! Launching soon!

[@corvavw6447]

❤your boat 🎉good luck sailor .

[@mauriziobellelli1229]

Wonderful boat, and for the first time I'm the one who know more about her: she comes from the desk of Carlo Sciarelli, father of some of the most beautiful italian boats - and of some of the fastest, go and see ChicaBoba II, Ostar 1980, and Chica Boba III, Ostar 1984. He was not interested in IOR boats, he hated ratings, simply loved fast boats, the ones that run more miles per day with timeless class. His book is in my library aside the ones of designers as Olin Stephens, John Alden, Joel White, Sam Crocker and others. This model was designed both as a staysail schooner and as a cutter, as Constellation probably is: the two poles shouldn't be for spinnakers - too much people to manage, he loved boats with no more than three guys at work, better if only two - but for twin staysails running down the wind, this was one of his trademarks. The cabins disposition seems awkward, but Constellation, comparing his interior with other ones from the same desk, was surely designed for charter: crew cabin aft, saloon midship, two triple forward of saloon for guests, a huge forecastle for sails with two more berths where transferring crew if more than 6 guests were onboard, NO owner cabin. Construction was fiberglass from Cantiere Ambrosini in La Spezia, this one was probably only internally finished from Cantieri Navali Scia in Genova, a couple were constructed in wood.

[@johnyalowica8423]

I bought this schooner!

[@johnyalowica8423]

Launching on May long weekend!

[@leevandyke8524]

Beautiful boat, 20 years ago I would’ve lapped it up. When I lived and sailed Lake Michigan, now I live in South Carolina in retirement at age 75. No can do anymore.😊

[@skyak4493]

Very unique. It seems like a boat built for ocean racing circa 1960. Lots of accommodations for lots of hands to handle lots of sails. If it rates well it might still be an interesting racer (I have no idea how a staysail schooner rates, but she can put up allot of canvas). It might be a very interesting charter racer. For $10k you could take 5 of your friends on a famous ocean race in a beautiful classic schooner.

[@scomo532]

Its not a schoonah, he failed yo show a second mast step, its a cuttah.

[@Redfour5]

Oh, eat your chowdah...@@scomo532

[@Pocketfarmer1]

3:25 what is that roundish thing on the centerline in the middle of he deck? The thing that is covered with white plastic? A main mast step perhaps?

[@skyak4493]

@@Pocketfarmer1 Yes. It is a bag over the hole for the keel stepped mast. This is confirmed by the standing rigging mounts P&S and the winches to each side.

[@Pocketfarmer1]

@@skyak4493 Sorry , I meant to reply to @scomo532 , because the boat is clearly set up for two masts, and not a “cuttah”.

[@kerryhoover6600]

First off she's STUNNINGLY BEAUTIFUL! From what I've been seeing on other channels this is a boat set up for racing. As a matter of fact I just watched a channel and a gentleman from Italy just refitted a boat and the interior is almost a copy of this one. Would of like to seen if the old oil looking light's on her were also able to gimbal. Would LOVE TO HAVE HER TO LIVE ON AND SAIL THE LAKES !!! Thanks for the great videos!

[@benokisklaffer1384]

You asked for an opinion, so here is my opinion: It is no coincidence that this relatively large sailing schooner is in storage and does not travel the seas. This design was designed according to the racing/sports boat ideas of the early 60s with its now smiling design... Compared to its length, it has a very narrow body (4 meters) and a maximum depth of over two meters. Hand laminated fiberglass polyester resin body. (Made in Italy.) In today's eyes, this is quite difficult for a racing boat. The main concept of interior design is to accommodate many people in a short time and without comfort. It has a cave-like narrow interior living space, with small windows and a dark interior. This boat would only be suitable for retro racing without conversion. Such boats sail in a sporty manner. They have serious inclinations and their advantage is that they can cut through the waves and sail sharply, so the deck is almost constantly wet. The small cockpit is an unprotected water tank. The deck is not even worthy of a sports boat; full of obstacles and wooden decorations and scattered not self-collecting oldy winches. The traffic surfaces are extremely narrow. It would take a lot of serious upgrades and a complete interior makeover to convert this sailboat into an ocean cruising boat. However, its possible transformation, re-equipment and development would cost a very large amount. I just ask quietly: where are the really useful, practical equipment? I am thinking here of a dinghy, generator, AIS transceiver, water maker, radar, individual electronic indicators, collective rescue device etc. All together, the realistic price of this watercraft would be between 10 and 15 thousand dollars. (85K WTFCK!?) I don't even know if there is any serious interest in her as a result of this KZbin report. Not to mention a dream yacht - well... she can be a nightmare.

[@shalaconballard9912]

Now that's the boat you should buy and get out there sailing .

[@erhardbaehni1832]

You know my dream was always to stay on a boat ..so I did keep it in a warehouse best and cheapest time I ever had . Who is saying it has to float 😊

[@user-ir4np1ph6v]

boat looks well maintained, even the varnish still good

[@motorv8N]

Nice tour thanks for featuring it. Love the lines but would be tempted to rethink the interior. Maybe take out the dividing wall up front, support the deck some other way if the wall was structural and make a more habitable cabin.

[@ianb5949]

I believe the dividing bulkhead is to take the strain and weight of the foremast under full sail. The mast is deck mounted.

[@tomstopper5281]

Nice boat. I would turn the two cabins into one large owner cabin with a nice head with separate shower and wardrobe space. I don’t like to have too many people on the boat so guest can use the aft cabin or saloon.

[@mauriziobellelli1229]

the boat was designed for charter, the aft cabin is the crew's one, the two triples in the middle for guests, the forecastle for sails and for crew, leaving the aft cabin to guests, when more people than six were onboard, that's the reason you don't find a proper owner cabin

[@rustyminor8308]

I have watched your channel since it’s inception. You guys have done a phenomenal job of building a great can you give out great information you sound very knowledgeable you sound sincere and I personally want to thank you for many many good viewings of mini boat keep up the good work your friend Rusty hope to see you out in the water sometime😊

[@c.a.mcneil7599]

I miss the little lady and now mom. This is a good boat for a family

[@atxsailor452]

Best buy I have seen in awhile especially for a schooner sail plan! Great find!

[@johnyalowica8423]

I bought the boat!

[@Johnsouthshore]

I grew up sailing abd working on boats on Lake Macatawa ( Holland, MI)

[@zzp1]

Point is that very few people wants a classic yacht, the majority chooses for the comfort containers as the modern yacht is.

[@chuckaddison5134]

Cored or solid hull? All things considered, she's in pretty good condition. Although the engine placement is concerning. I agree with others that this was intended for racing, rather than blue water cruising.

[@mr.e7022]

Remember to look a gift horse in the mouth. Disappointed about the aft cabin, other than that the boat vs price is amazing.

[@kimobailey2926]

Great boat ! Price is right !

[@bobrat]

,its an IOR racer. It sleeps 12 at the dock or 6 on the weather side when beating. The Skipper and his Matie plus a 10 person crew. Oil lamps, 2 full heads, diesel heater plenty of Canvas prolly a golly walber and i bet a blooper too.❤ 85k offer 65k it'll take lots of elbow grease to get her up n sailing again. Check the sail inventory, auxiliary, cordage and a competent Survey!!

[@skyak4493]

Any idea how it would rate to modern rules? If it rates reasonably, it might cover it's upkeep as a charter racer. Having so many important jobs is a negative for cruising but a positive for a charter racer.

[@Surfcityham]

Two spinnaker poles and a reaching strut (to keep the Spinnaker after guy from pressing against the windward stays). A stays'l schooner would have astays'l between the masts instead of a boomed foresail. The downside of the offset companionway is that if you get knocked down to starboard, water gets below much easier than if it is on the centerline.

[@mauriziobellelli1229]

probably is a cutter, the doubled poles were a designer's trademark, he was a fan of twin foresails when running downwind

[@Surfcityham]

@@mauriziobellelli1229 You can also use two spinnaker poles to make gybing easier or if you have an inner fore stay that would stop the pole from going past the centerline.

[@mauriziobellelli1229]

@@Surfcityham shure, but Carlo Sciarelli - the architect who designed the boat - was a strong advocate of the twin staysail for downwind running and of the few crewmen sailing. He used them very often in his boats, particulary for minimal crew sailing.

[@bos6782]

My retirement plan is to find and buy a similar boat, if we could fast forward 6;years I’d buy it today. Beautiful yacht. Thanks for the video walkthrough. Disappointed a bit with motor location to aft cabin. Great price point for what you get.

[@flounder2283]

It's clearly set up as a racing blue ocean boat. very similar to the boat in the latest video by Alluring Artic Saiing.

[@dennisluz6453]

Alluring Arctic's sailboat is aluminum 42 ft long.

[@benmac940]

​@dennisluz6453 the boat he toured in the latest video isn't though. Which is what he was talking about

[@SteifWood]

@@benmac940 Tappio's ocean cruiser is a Swan 50(?) built by Nautor, and in a completely different league (quality/handling/comfort/you name it) than this Italian mixer. I'm not sure you can compare a Swan with anything normal -- a Walley, Hylas, or Shipman may be off the charts -- but a Contest, Baltic, Oyster, H-R, or Malö may be on par?

[@benmac940]

@@SteifWood why are you telling me all this I wasn't the one who said it. Though personally the set up of the two do have some similarities. Both look like they're set up for comfortable long distance offshore racing not cruising

[@SteifWood]

@@benmac940 sorry man, my flounder

[@jeromehebert3184]

unique layout for sure.

[@feoxorus]

"Unique", yes. Probably good for some uses, but the weird layout isn't working for me as I would want to sail blue water more comfortably and have good cabins for visiting couples.

[@allanlindsay1330]

Great looking boat .

[@biggest23]

Small saloon, lots of berths. Looks like a passage maker/rally boat/offshore club racer, more than a live aboard cruiser.

[@sunlovesailing]

Checking her out, thanks for the tip.

[@svsalserenity4375]

Did you forget to mention what the boat is made out of? Maybe I missed it.

[@feoxorus]

Paper mache

[@johnnylightning1491]

Are you sure the Detroit Lions don't use that boat for a practice field? That boat is massive. The only down side I can see is dockage. In spite of that it's really pretty and apparently very salvageable boat. Keep the good stuff coming.

[@VentoRacing1]

Sleeps 10 because that's what it takes to crew it. Would take someone with deep pockets to get her back in shape. She would be a really special beauty to see sailing.

[@dansiwek3593]

Damn thats a nice boat, tnx for sharing. :)

[@liquidmandotcom]

You know, I really like this one.

[@jonasmagnusson2099]

Oh what a beautiful boat!👍🇸🇪🙏👏

[@monsterhog1118]

Does the PBR come with?

[@yeskaaustral4456]

Thanks for the video. Very strange layout for a 50ft sailboat, very coustom build. What was the sailboat used for?

[@cultfighter]

I would enlarge the master cabin using the other 2 cabins and put in a pool table

[@gdiup9241]

Hope you fare well with the storm.

[@bphenry]

4:00 - Don't think that's a manual bilge pump. It looks like the handle for a hydraulic backstay tensioner.

[@otissmith7057]

Figure another $120,000 over the sale price for repairs, upgrades, sails, standing rigging, etc. Definitely not a single hand sailing vessel.

[@CG-99]

I think you will need substantially more than $120k. This is a big boat. A lot of stuff needs replacing to update it.

[@divelasterlaster3946]

would be a great boat for the Boy Scouts in Florida

[@philo5096]

South Beach anyone?

[@robertlaird6746]

So when are you going to get your boat and what do you want?

[@MakaiMauka]

Beautiful boat. Long and skinny

[@user-fl5yc2jv8t]

Looks like a school boat/training vessel.

[@gregj4857]

It looks like a nice family boat or perhaps use it to take people out for sailing tours, might make a little money from it.

[@tomhermens7698]

Very pretty lines. Need deep pockets. "Expect to do little bit of work yourself " meant as a joke???😊😅

[@ollihigginbottom5884]

"given the current situation" 😊

[@KlingonCaptain]

This is the first time I've ever seen a sailboat with a Bikers Against Drunk Driving (BADD) bumper sticker. Now I'm curious about the owner's motorcycles...

[@leightonbrown1849]

I love it

[@Brian-os9qj]

Classic look

[@sm70911]

would love to own that boat

[@philipfreeman72]

Have you ever looked at a harry proa 40 or 50 ?

[@InnawoodsAnon]

Forward Facing Nav Station, drink!

[@boathemian7694]

I lived on a 46’LOD boat for 20 years and I recommend thinking with your head before buying something like this. It’s a commitment that can ruin your life… Not a fan of flush decks for offshore sailing. This thing can cost you a lot of money to keep.

[@bryonensminger7462]

The wood work is a little darker then I like lighter makes it look more open

[@MistiMoan]

Where you finding there boats

[@vicg5323]

beautiful. i wonder how much to get her ready for off shore sailing?

[@skyak4493]

It looks like it is "ready" but set up for a larger crew. A blue water cruiser today is set up to be sailed single hand on a watch with nearly all lines lead to the cockpit. This boat is a handful for even two, likely 3 capable sailors out exposed on deck. Even a full boat of six would be exhausting in rough weather lasting many days.

[@nastazabrocovich6806]

I can’t see the price where the boat is. Can you please send me a price on the boat?

[@Aussie-nd7si]

With a schooner rig she's not a boat for someone without good sailing experience, and a crew. Difficult as a short handed sailor. If someone wants to potter around and do her up in spare time, it would be a great project, but boats that have been out of the water for a long time have a lot of work to be done. 85 k is not a price at which this boat would sell I think, but at that price it could never be replaced. The problem though is you will easily need to spend another 100-150 k and then have a boat work 120-150 k. It's over 40 years old now.

[@JohnFunk-lp7zz]

nice

[@alan-sk7ky]

Has Mads & Ava written all over it 😉

[@tomregan362]

Who is the designer? Looks like a Sparkman & Stephens design similar to the older Swans and Tartan 41's. Is she still on the market? Thank you for sharing the video. Cheers...

[@skyak4493]

The listing is in the posted comments.

[@ianrusso8790]

not a good liveaboard, but beautiful boat

[@andrepicard6329]

Très belle coque! Mais un intérieur dis fonctionnel. On a juste à regarder la hache avant qui glisse , c’est bien! Mais c’est là que l’on devrait retrouver les voiles et les cordages. C’est un lit , c’est aberrant. Une douche pour 8 , c’est aberrant. Une cuisine avec de très petites espaces pour concevoir des plats pour 8 personnes. Et je pourrais continuer…..l’intérieur en bois est chaleureux et c’est une copie conforme d’un quarante pieds qui reçoit un couple avec deux invités. Le pont est aussi mal aménagé puisque les manœuvres ne sont pas tous au cockpit. Et que dire d’un aussi petit cokpit pour 8 personnes. Les lignes sont belles! Mais tout est à repenser.

[@davidmccarty6445]

How much is owed, to Marina for storage

[@diliplahiri9052]

You can go flying out if you flip over!

[@feoxorus]

If you flip a 50 footer you've got a lot of things happening and most will not end well.

[@markgouthro7375]

The worth of a boat can never be measured in money. After all, like the joke says, they are holes in the water you throw money in. So you need to measure their worth some other way.

[@andrewthacker114]

Looks like a potential bargain

[@JohnLee-im7iu]

Odd layout to be sure. Would need to repurpose some space.

[@dennisluz6453]

Right side companionway unusual location.

[@im2point0]

Very similar design to a Swan

[@vincent7520]

No master's cabin means this boat sails and sails often : all berths are for crew end the owner lives aobard like crew. This the best configuration to sail far; fast; and in any kind of weather with and experien ced crew

[@skyak4493]

It's a boat that treats a large Corinthian crew well, which is important because it NEEDS a large crew to sail.

[@Ed-oq7ot]

What’s she made out of and how old?

[@MrDuckmallard]

dirt seems damned expensive.

[@schroderingerscat]

price asked?

[@haydenwatson7987]

I am sorry but your comment about the cockpit traveler sounded like a direct quote from Ferenc Mate without any thought as to the actual situation. On a tiller boat and many wheel boats, the cross-cockpit traveler is indeed a problem as far as movement in the cockpit. On this boat, that comment is completely nonapplicable. It crosses the cockpit just in front of the wheel where the cockpit opens up to a T. In this location you have already stepped up onto the seats to get around the wheel and you are above the traveler. Another Mate quote is the forward facing nav table. This is only applicable if you can see outside from the nav. If you cannot see the water, it does not matter which way it faces.

[@user-yc1cb5sm6d]

How much are you asking for

[@rickhodges1731]

Very wet boat. It's not a very comfortable setup for cruising. Depends on what you plan on doing with it. Not very welcoming to friends.

[@scoutandscooter]

If I were younger..

[@markbenson2866]

Hey! Where is it and how much?

[@feoxorus]

Need a picture menu much?

[@rollinrock6696]

Buy it

[@davidmurphy7587]

Someone has to buy it

[@leifjohnson9187]

Not seeing the price??

[@feoxorus]

Read.

[@user-kg5op4bp3k]

Who is the broker and his contact information?

[@Franklin-pc3xd]

Budget $200,000 for restore/renovation/rigging.

[@rocketscientist007]

7ft-4in draft

[@hesseldijkstra5327]

While these days a centerboard lifting keel is very popular

[@briansparks4926]

Too crowded for my taste. I would move the shower into the v-berth compartment with additional storage. No master cabin. Not to my taste but may work for some other buyer.

[@timwestlake2197]

One of the strangest boat layouts I've ever seen. That cockpit was hideous. No way would I ever think of buying it. There doesn't seem to be a constant thought put into the design throughout. It's like 3 people were in charge of each 1/3 of the boat with no one telling the other 2 what they were doing. I would have liked to of talked to the original salesman responsible for selling this thing when new and heard where he went with his marketing pitch.

[@pilotarix]

There is no such thing as a dirty, cheap boat. It's a little like the saying „there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch“

[@jonasmagnusson2099]

How much money?

[@feoxorus]

Read.

[@benmac940]

Definitely set up for some serious sailing, not really a cruising or liveaboard boat. Also dont think id call it dirt cheap at 85 k. How this channel has changed

[@feoxorus]

Well, I would say that 85k IS dirt cheap for a 50' schooner considering that they can quickly hit the $300k mark if they're ready to go.

[@benmac940]

@@feoxorus learn to fucken read I never said it wasn't cheap for what it was I said 85k in general is not dirt cheap to me it anyone I know

[@pascalgrinberg5530]

What material is it built of!!!? The one most important spec is nowhere to be found!!! Second most important: who's design???

[@scyz2807]

I wish this boat had some kind of bimini or other weather enclosure. Besides that I think it's a great boat for the price! If only I had the price. : - ( I wonder if it could be transported via the Mississippi river to the Gulf? Otherwise, what good is having such a fine "ocean going" sailboat in the Great Lakes? No offense to people who sail on the Great Lakes. : - )

[@skyak4493]

The great lakes have more challenging conditions than most oceans. The boat can be sailed along the great loop to either the gulf or the east coast in a month or two.

[@user-kg5op4bp3k]

What’s the contact information

[@CaptainRon1913]

Weird sailboat, with a weird layout. Should have been built as a sloop.

[@SAILINGDIRTYBIRD]

I don't even look at fiberglass Sailboats anymore.... Aluminum is the way to go .... Fiberglass your always rebidding things, too many pesky leaks to track down..... Aluminum is becoming more popular

[@tittyskillet3413]

Agreed. Aluminum is the way.

[@rudydedogg6505]

I'm put off by the lack of portholes leading toward a dark interior with no views outside combined with a miniscule cockpit and a very small salon for a 50' boat. No, there is nothing that invites me to comfort either above or below deck. Not a "happy-to-be-on" boat.

[@bdphourde]

Thank you for all the tours. There have been several boats I've seen that I'm very interested in. I'd like to mention a few things about your tours that might be an improvement, in my opinion. Firstly, you should keep your hand out of view. People who watch this type of program already know something about boats and don't need to have a winch or a portal or a block pointed out to them. It is sort of insulting to the viewers. Also, we may be trying to take screenshots of the video for our own folders on the boats we are researching, and your body parts are in the way. Your dialog is mostly unnecessary. All you are doing is naming everything we are looking at. We can identify those items in a second and your dialog may be interfering with our thought processes, and therefore a hindrance. What is helpful is to point out details that we may not be able to see very well, in which case you could also move the camera in for a closer look. It isn't at all necessary to point out things that are important to you, like the lifeline height. Instead, you could stand next to it and say this lifeline comes up to mid-thigh on me standing 5'9", or whatever would be helpful to all of us, if you thought it was a significant factor. Personally, I would never base the purchase of a boat on the height of the lifelines. They can be raised. By all means, let us know the things the owner or broker let you know that would be of interest to us. Since there is no owner to question for this boat, I did visit the Yachtworld website of the listing by the yard owner. It shows a pic of the boat under sail and saw that the mizzen sail is a rectangular one and I was very interested in how the lines might be run from the top of the main mast forward to the aft head of the mizzen sail. I have been looking for a schooner with this configuration. If you follow Mads on Sail Life, you know he is looking for another project boat to begin work on. He is looking for a 50'-60' center cockpit boat that is in need of renovation. I will send him this one even though it isn't a c/c and it is likely out of reach of his budget. But like you said, this price may be negotiable. He preferred one on the east coast, where a great abundance of neglected boats might be found. If you see something he might be interested in, note it in the comments of his latest vlog post.

[@robertbruce5084]

The very first thing to consider.......can I afford "to own and maintain" a yacht of this size?

[@skyak4493]

This yacht is very affordable, but who has a crew of six excellent sailors available 24/7 every time you want to make a crossing? That would be a tough roster to fill for anything that isn't a major race.

[@hereintranzit]

That boat is a racer. Not that comfortable for a live aboard situation

[@briengilroy4939]

What is cheap? Cheap boats are in the end the most expensive.

[@Paul_C]

Don't think you will buy it. Don't think you will ever buy something like this.

[@MrFroglips69]

I don't like the lay out at all. No master suite, why not? Only wet heads, why?

[@skyak4493]

It was built for racing.