2022 CFMOTO CFORCE ATVs | Chinese Garbage or Legitimate Contender?

[@timmyboylarsen6961]

I work at a Honda CF model dealership, the cfmotos out sell the Honds big time. I've watched cfmoto since 2011 and bought a new x8 twin, since then almost any and all issues they had have always been addressed yearly. I own a 2022 cforce 800 and I love it. As far as performance goes it hauls ass up to 74 mph and has a nice mid range pull. I was always a Honda guy but man the money you save, the performance you gain, and all the extras that come factory with the motos it's a no brainer. Plus they offer a five year warranty, automotive paint, big aggressive tires, good looking rims, receiver hitch, awesome led lighting, a 3000 lbs winch, two USB ports and a power port plug in. The power steering is standard equipment as well as differential lock. I could go on and on, I'm not a salesman I'm a mechanic for American marine and motorsports so it's not a sales pitch. Ya know in the state of wis it's illegal to have two people on a machine that is built for 1 person so idk what Hondas going to do but for them not to offer a 2 up bike is probably going to hurt them. That and we have a hard time getting Hondas in, people do not want to wait months for an atv. Well that's my two cents worth I hope it helps somebody with there decision making. Good luck and safe travels.

[@nah92]

We have 4 cfmotos in our riding group. Other than a couple cheap fuse problems, these things are awesome. Hard trail riding for 8+ hours through everything from fort, mud, and mile long creeks. They do really well

[@seekter-kafa]

8 hours? let me know after 8 years!!!

[@parkerkimber2446]

@@seekter-kafa i think they are reffering to all day riding not an 8hr review... calm your tits bro

[@devilsadvocate1441]

​@@seekter-kafa agreed. I have a Grizz 700 and 1000 can am. Absolutely beat on them. Other than wear and tear parts. Both still rum and ride like a champ..I'll be curious to see where CF moto goes. No hate

[@peterpizzurro]

​@@seekter-kafa8 years? Let me know after 22 years! 2001 Artic Cat 400 4x4.

[@donderstorm1845]

@@peterpizzurro 22 years? you got soft hands brother. i've been riding my chariot nonstop since 500 BC

[@joshuaclad5057]

I’ve had my cforce 500 for 5 years now. With yearly maintenance I’ve got 3500 hard miles and still going strong!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome! At this point I'd say those aren't typically results, but I'm really glad to hear it.

[@jalexandermt]

I have a 2020 cforce1000. I love the machine! Had it out in 16" of snow last week and came across 5 teenagers stranded a mile back in a CRV with a burnt out clutch. The ol cforce pulled them out of the bush like a champ!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome!

[@sethwilliamson478]

Damn my sportsman 450 overheated and had minor belt wear in 8” of snow a week or so ago

[@ввя-д6е]

★CF MOTO 100% HERE★ Own 6 and will never buy anything else again. This is from a 44year DIE HARD Honda man. 4 yrs old my pops & Gramps got me my 1st 70cc 3 wheeler. I rode that lil sweetheart every day in the summer, weekends, and after school til mama said ok time to come in. 110 Hi/Lo range 3 wheeler at my 6th bday. I hit an early growth spurt and by 8 was sporting a big red. Next came the 1985 250 Fourtrax. Woo. They were a blast. And I started racing for my grandfather's shop, on a 3 wheeler 250R. The track that was less than mile down the hill from us, where I took home the Gold every single race I entered, became Loudon International Speedway in the late 80s or early 90s... either way they took my dirt - Slaughters in Concord was built into a parking lot or a bank or something... Canaan became the next track- but I was on 2 wheels by 1986. Honda 250XR was my trail bike- 4 stroke "the thumper" was fun as hell. But, racing is different, that 2 stroke power band has a way of grabbing your attention when you're 9 years old, 5'9" and only 105lbs. That was the CRs territory - but I wasn't thrilled with it - and made an exception for the express purpose of winning dirtbike 125cc class races and went Kawasaki KX. Also had a Yamaha YZ 125, but it was a royal pain in my ass. After every single race I had to break it down to replace the seals. At least the KX was every 4 or 5 races. Anyway, I got away from the 80s dirt bike race scene and into the race quads for trail riding, as well as the ever growing in displacement - Honda Foreman. 300, 350, and I still have a 2006 Foreman 500ES. Great for towing my wood splitter from the barn or garage to the landing or the other few stacks of cord wood, or doing work around the property with the trailer. But I won't say it is by any means a work horse. I once chained up by choker, lifting the end up over a foot, an 8ft, 6" diameter yellow birch to drag up to the landing rather than block it and getting the trailer stuck down off the main trail -- that co©[{§[_]ke₹ wouldn't walk up the trail to save my life. Just not enough power. I pulled it up with the same chain etc with my CF500 in 2 wheel drive. bottom line, Polaris, Can Am, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, Artic Cat (actually no they're just not on the list) are all great for those involved in antiquities. But in 2024, my $ goes to CFmoto Cforce and that's that.

[@jjms79]

I own a 2021 600 touring and have had a great experience over the last year and a half. It's got plenty of power both on the trails and in the open straight aways. Also, it's gone through everything I've thrown at it, from mud water and sand dunes, to ice and snow. The CVT transmission and Bosch electronics are second to none, and as for the rest of the machine, I love the fit and finish and haven't had any issues with parts failing. When I do need parts, there are many dealers near me, and a parts distribution site right here in Minnesota. The 2021 doesn't come clutched to pop wheelies, but that can be upgraded easily enough, and for those who want that, I've seen that the 2022 models are clutched to your liking.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Glad you like it!

[@bigmike9527]

@soldierofliberty 🔥🤘🔥

[@conner7798]

You must not have thrown very much at it if its gone through it all lol.

[@rolexr]

Totally agree - I have also the 625 (here in Europe) and for example the CF-Moto´s are way better finished than the taiwanese TGB quads! And equal to Polaris!

[@jacobwilliams8433]

I have the exact quad and I agree 100%.

[@richardjohnson6053]

2022 cfmoto uforce 600 1538 miles. Really luv the machine. Prior owner of a polaris ranger. I refused to go back to polaris. I was interested in honda pioneer, tested both. Bought the cf moto.

[@rickvarro313]

Update on this machine: The diff repairs have held up just fine. The only other three gripes I had about this machine I have also been able to fix easily. 1) I had difficulty with the shifter. There is a cable that runs from the brake pedal to the shifter....a pin interlock. I adjusted the cable back so I don't have to step on the pedal so hard to get the gear shifter to work. If the cable stretches further, I'll just remove the interlock completely. My Arctic Cat doesn't have this at all. 2) Low speed surging: It was difficult to maintain a steady low speed or even load the ATV in a trailer. The idle was 1850-1900 RPM. I did some research and this is common. Despite the manual saying that idle is non adjustable and controlled by the IAC, there are quite a few threads out there saying to back the idle screw down on the throttle body and close up the throttle plate. Although it is difficult to get to, remove the RH plastics, use an 8mm wrench and loosen the jam nut all the way out until it hits the screw head and keep going. I backed my idle stop screw out a good 3 turns. Now the tricky part. I had to open the throttle and clamp small vise grips on the end of the throttle stop screw to hold it in place while I tightened the jamb nut. This is a tight spot to get to and it takes patience, but it is well worth it. It's a totally different ATV now. I can move it around with precision and maintain a steady low speed which was impossible before. Much better. 3) I could not get a regular trailer hitch ball assembly to fit into the receiver as it's not very deep. I took it off and sanded the inside the hitch where the grommets are with a small belt sander. Now a standard receiver will slide in, and although not quite deep enough, the holes do line up enough to get the standard CF Moto receiver pin to fit through. (I had to enlarge the holes in the CF Moto part ever so slightly. The standard CF Moto receiver's hole will not accept a large threaded 2" ball, but I still wanted to keep that stock for pulling around drop pin style small lawn trailers. All good now!

[@sknails2723]

garbage

[@winshipsawmill7989]

We have a 2021 600 and 2021 800xc both 2 up versions... 600 has 972 miles on it and 800 has just over 600. Have had zero issues with the 600 and only one evap issue with the 800 that occurred while riding at 12,000 feet in the mountains. Absolutely love the looks, ride and the price point. Almost every time we ride we get stopped on the trail by someone who has “heard about cf moto but never seen one”. We are currently looking at a 1000 u force....

[@NitroStarGT]

Your video sounds very well made and you have a good opinion. I have ridden a 2 seater 800 and 600 CFMOTO and let me tell you, it is very nimble in trees and such. The turning radius on these appear better than competitors. Watch some Real Talk Powersports videos of riding CFMOTO units. I've been on the trails with them and they really put these units through their paces. They handle like a dream

[@jimmydesperado2936]

Unfortunately what you would like to see from CFMOTO and what the public is looking for are miles apart. Most people want to hit the trails, have fun....and in the event are faced with issues have the necessities to get out with the equipped amenities. Beyond that....90% of us are not racing. I'm on my 5th CFMOTO product in 4 years. Started with a Uforce 500 and Cforce 400. traded up to a Cforce 500 and Zforce 950 in 2021 and then traded up from the Cforce 500 to a Cforce 600 more recently. The latter is the best quad I've ever owned....and I've owned them since before Polaris and Can Am were making quads. I should also add...I bought my wife a 2019 Sportsman 450 (500cc) brand new in 2019. She didn't like the ride quality of the Cforce 400 we had at that time. Aside from the better ride quality of the Polaris everything else fails in comparison to each of the Cforce models I've owned. Cheap plastic on a set of good shocks, cheap tires and steel wheels. Don't get wrong...its been a dependable enough quad....but it serves its purpose well as a female ridden quad...it's not built nearly as durable as my CFMOTO machines. Right down to the gauge and diameter of the suspension and frame tubing. There's a reason why all CFMOTO quads come standard with a 2" hitch receiver and the Polaris comes with a 1-1/4". It's all based on the strength rating of the structure pulling it. Enough said. My only gripe about CFMOTO (and its not really a gripe of mine necessarily) is dealer network. People are lured into these machines due to the price point and everything that's included. In Canada the 5 year warranty lends to that draw factor also. Also....when you set a CFMOTO quad next to the competition...what's not to like in terms of fit, finish and design. Park a 2022 Cforce 600 next to a Can Am 570 Outlander. Be honest enough to admit....which one is far more appealing. Unfortunately in North America dealers are spread very thin and in the event an owner has a service/warranty issue that distance can be a pain. That's when owners are the most likely to have remorse and thus play the "I knew I shouldn't have bought that chinese POS". Until CFMOTO beefs up their network...that cliche won't go away any time soon. I'm lucky my dealer is 4 miles away....and is the top selling dealer in the U.S. That said...I've yet to have one warranty claim on any of my CFMOTO machines. I also notice you didn't make one mention of CFMOTO's partnership with KTM.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Good points, well stated.. I didn't mention the KTM partnership because it isn't relevant to their ATVs.. It does speak to their overall capabilities in powersports and I've mentioned it in previous videos. But it would be kind of like saying a Yamaha Grizzly is going to be good because Yamaha's MT-07 is an awesome bike.. Completely different divisions of the company..

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@DirtObseXXion Actually....in addition to the 2020 and newer Cforce 600's and 2020 and newer Zforce 950's both models are Kiszka designed and engineered. As for CFMOTO powerplant quality. KTM's range of middleweight parallel V-twin powered street/sport motorcycles are made by CFMOTO at their Hangzhou, China factory....including the KTM 790cc Duke. This association goes back to 2018 and currently in 2022 will include KTM's Husqvarna venture into the mix as well. You don't need to turn over too many stones to find that worldwide in the mid displacement street bike scene....CFMOTO is highly regarded. Obviously I realize street machines and dirt machines are exponentially different....but I'll trust KTM's judgement on where their powerplants come from as much as I do Polaris's judgement with their Linhai venture and Arctic Cat/Textron's with Kymco. At the end of the day it all boils down to budget and brand faith. I tell the story to a lot of younger riders that eat and breathe Polaris and Can Am. I remember back in the early 80's during my dirt bike days. Can Am made an attempt at competing with the Japanese bike makers. They didn't stay in it for too long.....their dirt bikes sucked. Their ATV's and SXS's didn't start popping up some 20 years later in the early 2000's only after Polaris struggled until the mid to late 90's to finally make a quad that actually ran with the Japanese 4 wheel machines. In fact....the 1st 7 or 8 years of Polaris quads was brutal. CFMOTO is getting it right. Too often we brand something junk because of its country of origin....and yes the Chinese markets and product builders as a whole have lent much to that deserved badge with shoddy assembly and quality control practices. I feel CFMOTO could very well be the exception to the rule. JMO.

[@claudedagenais511]

Yamaha Suzuki honda kawazaki r thé top quad for reability thé test is total bs

[@s.a.t419]

They can be compared to can am and polaris when talking overall reliability but you shouldnt even try to compare it to Honda or yamaha because they are in a league of thier own when it comes to build quality and reliability lol

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@s.a.t419 if you are talking build quality in terms of power plant/motors....I don't disagree with that....especially Honda. In terms of frame and chassis quality and durability....sorry....I've looked at every current quad and sxs model Honda makes and markets....they aren't built as sturdy as cfmoto...especially their quads. Yamaha....I'll give you that...they are built well...and performance wise Yamahas are topnotch. Nothing in the Honda line up impresses me in terms of build quality and performance for its intended design except the Pioneer line. Talons....ha ha ha...I'll take my $14k z950 and eat Talons alive. Sorry Talon lovers....you might bear the Honda name....and I'm certain they do carry the token Honda dependability....but performance they are near the bottom of the sport sxs class. I'm nearing 4k miles on my 950....with zero issues. I ride with all brands. Nobody laughs at me anymore...including the Talon enthusiasts....they just move and get the eff out the way. Just changed my belt at 3400 miles....and didn't need to. I'm contemplating trading up to a 950 HO....but it's tough giving up something I know is dependable as f*%k.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

Hey Chad, You know i personally have had Tons of experience with all the "top brands" when i was running the LC Powersports KZbin channel.. But i Started the Real Talk Powersports channel in November of 2019 when i bought my first CFMOTO.. And the rest is history! You know based on my channel for the last 2 years that i Love CFMOTO NOW!! Ive won a few Mud Race events and short bounty course races on CFMOTOs in both the ATV Classes and SxS classes and i beat the mess out of my units on the trails and they have held up better than my previous models i use to run before CFMOTO..

[@DirtObseXXion]

Hey Blake! I know it, you're crushing it brother!

[@caseba0116]

Hey Realtalk powersports, I just recently received my cforce 1000 and I love it so far. I've got to get on your website and get some of your products for it though. I have a question, I want it to have a bit more power for my heavy hauling hunting trips. So are yall going to have the power kits like what yall built for the 800s.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

@@caseba0116 yes sir we sure are.. we are currently testing the same style kits and intakes with tunes.. ill post videos as soon as we are done and able to sell them.. It will be very soon though

[@atvseatexchange2176]

Pastor, I'm not surprised to see you doing a commercial up in here, keep up the good work.

[@RealTalkPowersports]

@@atvseatexchange2176 gotta keep a watch on what consumers are thinking about the CFMOTOs.. and then plug in good info about CFMOTO where I can.

[@HometownAcres]

I’ve got a 2021 cforce 600 with 500 miles on it. Love the thing. Only thing I’ve done to it is add better tires. I use it for getting around my property and trail riding. I usually follow my buddy on his canam 1000xmr and I go ‘almost’ anywhere he goes. We recently did a trail ride in 12” of snow and neither one of us got stuck

[@dondromano6099]

I bought a CFMoto 500 last year. I looked for a 400 but they were sold out and would not have a new shipment in for months. I had planned on taking it down to Baja California but the paperwork didn't come in soon enough. I've been using the 500 on our property, pulling items around here and there. Running up and down the dirt roads in the area. Lots of bells and whistles to it. Incidentally, it has a horn on it, it went out so I replaced the horn. Love the power steering, the 4x4 and axle lock. Came with a winch, which has already been used. We also own a CFMoto 800 side x side. Pretty amazing for the price point(s). Looking forward to this year really putting the machine through the paces.

[@FANATICALSIDERIDER]

I agree, we have the same machines as you. Really reliable.

[@scottkilbourn9103]

I bought my 22 600 touring 1.5 months ago on a whim while at the dealership with a friend. Up until then I had never heard of cfmoto. After asking a few questions & spoke to the mechanics I took the chance & bought it. I've gone riding almost every weekend since & I am completely impressed & now that the weather is getting better I'm seeing more of them on the trails. I'm very pleased with my purchase & am currently looking at the adventure bike they offer.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Sweet! We ride Adventure bikes too, im very interested in hearing some feedback on the Cfmoto bike if you go that route!

[@waynewill801]

I have the 650 adventure bike it’s pretty awesome really

[@zacharyschul4240]

I own a 2021 CFORCE 600 Touring and I absolutely love it. It's been a great machine. I do trail riding and not racing.

[@aaronhammers1052]

Awesome video! I have watched and searched for countless info on CFMOTO for a few years now. I have been on Yamaha and Kawasaki for 4 decades and after watching this video I have made up my mind and getting the 2022 CFMOTO 600 from our local atv dealer. The other brands want way to much money and haven't done any gains in the equipment to justify that amount. I live in Missouri and someone said they have one in Missouri and their headquarters is in Minnesota. Very informative video. Thank you.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks for checking it out!

[@OmarLopezAguirre]

Hi! I’m curious did you buy it ? How did it go ?

[@tryingmybesttobemybest4664]

I’ve had my 2020 600 for 2 years and love it!! I will say I don’t go extreme mudding that often but it has held up great imo. Always gets complements and usually people will joke on it until we ride and then they’re like how much you pay for that again and where’d you get it lol. Great video!

[@shawnstoik]

Yup!! All the ones who have overpaid with the others who were laughing aren’t chuckling as loud anymore, there now the suckers who have paid more.

[@kylerascon1676]

@@shawnstoik as a service writer you are definitely wrong 🤣 for what they save buying them, cfmoto owners get bent over backwards when it comes to service

[@abaddonbc3844]

I'm in the market for a machine as a disabled combat vet/hunter. I was looking at American based companies but came across cf moto while searching through dealership inventory. They caught my eye more than any other machine also the price point was appealing. Still, I was on the fence being a Chinese company. I've searched high and low for validations on cf motos and came across this video. Before watching I ran straight to the comments and I'm sold! I also watched the video after and found it was so damn informative and well scripted. Good work my friend and thank you!

[@DirtObseXXion]

I appreciate that brother! Hope you find the perfect machine!

[@marklarson9436]

I have the 800xc and she is a beast. Trail riding, work in the yard, plowing my driveway...it does great.

[@russellhubbardjr6710]

I purchased a 2021 cforce 600 2up for my daughter. We installed a clutch kit, 1.5 inch lift, along with 27in Zillas. She follows my wife and I through the same holes as our can am xmr 850s

[@bill_b8440]

Ahh the Polaris recall bit was fantastic lol. You nailed it with the 800 XC and 1000 overland, make the short wheelbase version instead of forcing you in to a 2 up. I don’t want a 600cc not because I feel like I need a 800+ but rather I don’t want to beat the snot out of a 570/600. Happy New Years fellas!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Surprisingly easy to find those Polaris clips..Happy new year!

[@dylandecaire6025]

I have a 2020 CForce 600 in Ontario Canada. It has been a fantastic bike. 1500km of hard riding. From roads to rocky trails and many swamps and even snow plowed two winters with it and it has done absolutely everything I have asked it to do and hasn’t skipped one beat. I get compliments on the looks of it all the time. Yes there is thing CFmoto could improve like the suspension a little bit. Not a bad right but not fantastic either and the shifter while is nice. Is sometimes a little hard to get into gear. Other than that I have zero regrets on purchasing this unit

[@zzzzzz...9902]

What I am curious about though is the fact of how easy is it to work on when it does have problems? Can you get parts easily? What about 15 years down the road, can you still get parts? You may not own the atv by then, but someone else probably will and they will have to deal with these issues.

[@jwyoungy]

How do you find the engine noise? I'm looking at a 600 and a 800. The two things I think I may not like about the 600 is the small fuel tank (compared to the 800) and the noise of the engine. It seems to rev really high when doing about 40 kmh

[@toddcoleman5388]

Uforce 1000 owner. I couldn't be happier with my purchase. I'm a year into ownership and I used my machine for more than it was intended for. I typically used it for more sport riding and less utility. I needed a 3 seat SXS (wife, child, and i) and don't like the long wheelbase of the 4 seaters. I've done a bunch of Hatfield McCoy trails and I'm still very impressed. The only thing I'm planning to upgrade is the shocks with some Elka band ones. 100% would purchase again and I recommend them to others. PS my father in-law has a commander 1000 and he loves my Uforce too.

[@darrellmcquay9808]

A year later and let me guess it’s blown up

[@mantarayasurf]

still good? any issues?

[@toddcoleman5388]

Still very good, 2 more trips, Hatfield McCoy, and 1000 more miles. The only thing that has happened was a family member absolutely buried it in a swap in high gear after an hour of him trying to get unburied he burned the belt.... that's not the machines fault.

[@mikepaine527]

I’ve had mine all over the mountains in Colorado and it’s more comfortable than my daughters razor. At first I didn’t think it would be able to go on some very rough trails but was wrong. We now have 2 950 sports in the family and it fits in my toy hauler with room to spare. And the price was pretty good too

[@elkmeat3tpo871]

Best atv channel out there. Love to hear him rip on polaris and sxs. 🤣🤣

[@DirtObseXXion]

I only point my frustration where it's most deserved! Thanks!!!!

[@1993kramer]

One of the only youtubers generating content on truth

[@concealit4800]

No rip on canam when our group pulls 2 or more back every ride lol

[@viking3487]

@@concealit4800 can am is the best atv brand so🤷🏼‍♂️

[@alexprince9035]

@@viking3487 can am is overpriced diarrhea

[@alberto4140]

I have a 2020 CForce1000, and the experience is great, it is reliable, very well equipped and a real beast in all situations and scenarios, such as sand, dirt, mud, rocks, snow, wet and dry asphalt. In short, a very well designed and built vehicle, and in my opinion one of the most beautiful currently.

[@ashleyrasset1635]

I have a 2021 cforce 600 touring. Got 400 miles on it and love it. I’ve had 2 issues. The master cylinder went out, dealer replaced it pads and rotors with no issues. I also had a rear shock blow, dealer replaced no problem. Both covered under warranty and fixed by 2 different dealers with no problems at all

[@primer3458]

Wow all that on a 2021 model. I’m not impressed

[@tigermarcel1997]

@@primer3458 these things can happend on any brand, you just dont here them saying it from yamaha honda suzuki, I know they are the most reliable but they wont say it when they went into issues

[@glenclifton4563]

@@tigermarcel1997 I bought a brand new Honda Rubicon a few years back and the front brake lever bottomed out as I was loading it on the trailer. Bad master cylinder. It can happen to anyone. Said they fixed it before I left. Did the same thing as I unloaded. I was pissed!!

[@austindunford]

Great video! I have grown up with atvs and Im now a few weeks into my 2022 cforce 600. So far it has been super fun for my casual rides on rocky trails. The value is what caught me and I think you are spot on regarding feature trades for other quality aspects but it was worth it to me for the price.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Glad you're happy and having fun brother!

[@xallep6328]

We own a 450AU-L. Two-seater. We drove 7000 km in the jungle in Peru. Likewise, we did all maintenance and had only an electric problem until now, which was fixed quickly. Very happy with this machine. Very powerful and dirt roads are not any problem.

[@garyenglish9338]

We have 3 Cf moto and have had great luck with all 3.. people have to remember Cf started off making parts for other big makers. Looks at Differential in the Cforce 500. It is same as older Rhino 660... I have also had Polaris Arctic Cat and Kawasaki.. I think CF is right there with them all.. and like all they all have there little issues

[@SeanONeill13]

*their

[@SmokJa]

I have a 2020 cf 400, it’s been working great. I have a giant drive way and I installed a plow and does the job incredibly. My kid and I use it all the time with no issues!!

[@nolazers]

how did u install the plow. I thought it doesnt have a winch

[@Tthrizzle85]

Just got a camo 2022 uforce 600 and man it is awesome, the quality on this machine honestly looks no different if not better than the ranger i was looking at. The options on it at 12.5k OTD price i paid is way worth it! I was scared at first because chinese products generally are inferior in quality, and i always hate how the china plastics would sun fade or crack fast, but i think this 2022 cfmoto breaks the mold on that! Time will tell, but do not regret the purchase what so ever!

[@jamessammann9183]

Looked at 600 yesterday so u like it

[@KLP368]

whats your long term thoughts on it now?

[@driverjamescopeland]

I won't lie... the one I sat on a few years ago, almost had me sold for only two features that have left all other major manufacturers.... a soft/supple suspension, and a reasonable weight. My 2nd-to-last ATV was an Arctic Cat 400 4x4 manual trans. I absolutely LOVED that quad. It wasn't the fastest or most powerful utility, or even the most durable/dependable... but the Cadillac ride and comparably light weight made up for all of that. It rode smooth in places that would have any other ATV bouncing. For what it lacked in power, it made up for with a 3-range transmission, that I literally dragged full grown trees with. All this, and it was still light enough to kick off on a rollover (thank God, 'cause this was both tested and proven). My next, and last ATV purchase, was a trade for a 2008 Arctic Cat 700efi Special Edition (metallic orange body, factory alloy wheels). It looked great, was decently fast for a utility, and had tons of features... features I THOUGHT I needed. I didn't. Every single minute, of every hour I spent on that quad, and actually using it as a farm utility... I missed my old 400. It was just too heavy, and too stiff. Literally THE ONLY feature I initially preferred, was the EFI for mountain winter start-ups... and then reality canceled that one as well. The automatic trans was nice... but it got hot often, and was obviously over-worked, even if I kept it in low range when spraying weeds (yes, the sprayer was well within rated weight limit). The diff locks were an absolutely necessity, because it was simply too heavy to achieve flotation in mud/snow... but that also meant you couldn't steer it in those badly needed scenarios. The EFI was great... until the field mice quickly reminded me that "farm utility" means "mice live here".... and "here" was directly beneath the seat, where they chewed through the EFI harness to make a new home, causing untold headaches/glitches before I figured it out. To this day, aside from that CF Moto, I have insisted that all new ATVs suffer from the same problem... they keep trying to sell more.... more power, more tech, more sporting ability, more lights, more stickers, more automation.... when want we NEED is LESS. Less weight. Less tech. Less complexity. Less stiffness. If someone made a utility ATV with that was basically a copy of that old Artic Cat 400 manual trans, with a 4-wire (power, ground, O² +/-) single throttle body EFI and limited slip diffs, I'd be all over it.

[@taylormade8873]

I love my 2020 C force 1000 so far and never had any major issues thus far, I love the look the ride and the options it comes with not to mention it sounds great too, haven said that it is heavy and a little under hp compared to other brands but for the power I need it's plenty. Great video I love your channel keep it up..

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks Taylor! Appreciate the feedback and glad you love your cforce!

[@travisshanafelt5587]

Bought my son a '21 CF600, after a year of a 16 year olds use and abuse we had 0 issues. We were hesitant at first but it's been great. Makes my '17 Sportsman 570 and wife's 400 Can Am seem 20 years behind. Other then throttle being on the wrong side, no complaints LOL!

[@philipmarr7325]

I bought a Zforce 500 SxS right before Covid started affecting the market. Im very impressed with the machine and fit/finish. The suspension is the only place it feels a little cheap to me. Im a dirtbike guy but use the Zforce to haul a chainsaw and trail tools around. And non-riding friends and family enjoy driving the buggy around. Been very happy w/ machine.

[@renemartel5269]

I bought a 2021 400s last February and I love it . I had a 2002 Sportsman 700 and it was always falling apart and the frame at one spot by the gas tank upper frame cracked and I had to make a bracket . The Cforce 400s has given me NO PROBLEMS at all . This machine is basically the same size as my Sportsman was but incredibly rugged . The ride is smoothe , the traction was better climbing, the shifting was easy and you could see the ruggedness of the frame construction . Unlike the Sportsman the 400s fenders are solid and access for maintenances is a breeze . I plan on putting on 25 inch tires this spring but other than that the only modification I have done was install for $ 98.00 at Tractor Supply was a 2500 lb winch that I put on myself with ease . As I said I love the machine .

[@shaunsnyder6868]

I have a 2021 cforce 800 and I love it… I completely disagree with you saying they are only for casual working atvs , they would be good at that too but they are beasts on the trail

[@mrtn775]

I agree I feel like this dude‘s a hater!

[@fordhearter]

My wife has a 2020 Cforce 500 and no issues so far. I like riding it and seems to drive well. I prefer my Raptor 660 because I like to shift my own gears but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another Cfmoto. Great video guys keep them coming.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks brother! I'm not getting rid of my Raptor anytime soon either

[@blackpine4517]

Never heard of cfmoto but they have a better appearance package than a lot of current and previewed quads. I’ll definitely be checking for comparisons. The ATV market is starting to look similar to the cruiser Motorcycle market. The younger generation seems to like past productions while the older want screens, comfort, a premium appearance and none of the manufacturers seem to be able to float both these things. My nephew prefers the look of my older Polaris scrambler over my wife’s current production.

[@felipeng8872]

I've had a cfmoto 525 since June 2021, I've driven more than 4000 miles, so far, nothing to complain about. Estou com um cfmoto 525 desde junho 2021, já rodei mais de 4000 milhas, até o momento, nada a reclamar.

[@silverback802]

Over the years I have ridden with nearly every brand including Cf Moto for the last couple of years. Polaris takes the honors for the most breakdowns

[@ccf500]

I have a cforce 500. I love my machine. It has had few minor problems all caused by user error. I have had to replace clutches due to wear.

[@nicholasolsen4698]

I have a 21 z950 and I love it. Never had an issue. 1700 miles so far and it runs with all the rest on the trails.

[@fistcover3831]

If I'm buying a single cylinder big bore quad, I'm going with a Japanese brand without any hesitation. For those who say Japanese quads are too expensive, there's an old saying, "buy once, cry once" Purchasing a brand based on reputation and performance is wisdom of the wallet.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Wise words brother!

[@joeellis2692]

Well I had a 2016 Grizzly 708 that caused me nothing but problems. The quad became so unreliable I never took it off a beaten path. I never beat that machine either. Just shy of 13k for that machine. I paid 8.1k total for my 2021 Cfmoto Cforce 800xc. That was the machine tax registration and a year insurance. For a 5k difference I can work out the problems. These days it's about comprising in the ATV market. Your not going to get the most powerful ATV and the most reliability.

[@kansasoutdoors5667]

i do gotta say my new yamaha viking sxs was a money pit when i got it. cried more than once lol.

[@berizmustafic5402]

I own the 2021 Cforce 600 touring I was hesitant to buy it until my buddy bought one and both of us are happy owners! I’ve taken it through loads of rough riding it just keeps going! I would buy it all over again!!

[@jodygiannone7158]

Great video! I think you covered all the things folks need to hear. I smiled when you mentioned putting a wrench on all the nuts and bolts you can get your hands on , on a new CFmoto. I found out by accident when I discovered a cover bolt on my floor board. Oh, a bottle of blue loctite is a good thing to keep in the glove box. I own a 2021 CForce 600T, biggest bang for the buck I could get in the ATV market. I hadn't even considered a CFmoto but started running into the ads when looking for a used Honda which I found (a 2006 for $6K) so I started looking more into the CFmotos and eventually make my purchase. The one big thing I find is there are really no after market parts. They're coming not that the wheelers are catching on but they're few and far between. Secondly, there's a imminent problem with the CVT clutch. Not that it doesn't work but it needs a different spring and weight combo and for about $150 you can turn your rig right around and make it perform like the beast it was meant to be. For the naysayers, you can't really bash a machine that comes stock with composite decking front and rear, stainless steel brake lines, real 4 wheel disc brakes, electronic power steering, Bosch fuel injection, a 3000 lb winch. I mean come on, where do you get all this at a $6500 price point. The one thing to be aware of as not to go for your salesman's throat is there are those sticky little fees that take a great price and machine and start putting it out of financial reach. My dealer was a HD Dealership. So I paid a $450 shipping fee, a $450 assembly fee, a $175 port tariff fee, the other standard dealership fees like office fee tax, title, etc so my OTD price ended up at $8800. Still not a lot of cha ching for a lot of machine. I've got close to 200 miles on the machine now with one hiccup and that was a bad voltage regulator. It took 5 weeks to get it but seeing how I bought the rig in March of 2021 I wasn't taking it out until the weather and yard dried up. I will say I love my 600T, the ride is forgiving, now that I've done the clutch it's got some real giddy up. I've totally outfitted it with aluminum skid plates and full bumpers, 1" spacers and I went up 1" all around on the tires with Maxxis Big Horn 2.0. The fit and finish are second to none. Its a complete machine and everyone who sees it asks who makes it and where did ya get it and are ya kidding me, that's all you paid? Don't knock it til ya tried it. I did and I'm glad I did.

[@traxxasftw]

You chose to pay those fees. I shop around till I get someone that will drop em. They are literally bull and added in just because they usually can get away with it. Usually only takes a couple of calls, I have bought 5 different machines (yammy, suzuki, 2x honda, can am) without those fees. You can also just call back or walk away from a sell that is basically complete...they WILL call you.

[@mcmuskie2563]

I have a new Can Am 650, my buddy bought the new Chinese brand, overall there sort of equal until we hit the gas. He’s in my rear view instantly! I’m happy I spent the extra dollars.

[@xgumbix1]

Very good video man. One thing I’d like to point out… Can Am is always the gold standard for reliable high performance ATV’s but have a look at the FB Outlander groups and you’ll see just as many breakdowns and failures as any other ATV group. Don’t get me wrong, I love Can Am but it seems to me that all brands break down for one reason or another. I have a Polaris General that is considered to be a somewhat unreliable machine but it has been flawless for me for 2 years of hard riding. I’m in the market for a new ATV, have been researching , reading and talking to a bunch of folks and really can’t see any justification for the opinion that CFMOTO has bad reliability. Show me how a Polaris or Can Am is more durable than a CFMOTO.

[@xgumbix1]

And I do understand the dislike for Chinese products due to political reasons, but I don’t see anyone throwing away their smartphones and other electronics that are all built in China.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Good points in both comments.. They definitely all break

[@xgumbix1]

@@DirtObseXXion yeah man I’ve seen a lot of people say the build quality isn’t on par with the bigger manufacturers. What are they seeing though? What parts are cheaper/lower grade? That’s what I’m looking for. Honestly for my information to make a better informed purchase.

[@dannydoall9181]

I do not have a quad but I have the 2018 u force 500 and to be honest I am still in love with it. Ok I blew my front diff within a year. My warranty was fantastic. Within 2 days of breaking it. I was back on the trail 100 percent back and haven't had a problem since.

[@adamwiech4874]

I considered the cf moto last year heard mixed reviews ,so I ultimately went with the polaris sportsman 450 h.o. and have been very happy with it so far, That being said I only use it to putt around my property , drag a deer or two out ,and some light work and the price was right 6 grand out the door .

[@Agroid_Moose]

Same here I got a 2021 Polaris 450 h.o. and love it as well. Mines the zenith blue.Same uses as well yard maintenance and minor trail riding. My only complaint so far is they removed the rear trunk you can buy a $70.00 under seat bag but I’m not doing it. The reason I didn’t go with cfmoto was the dealers close by are like hardware stores and camper / rv dealers not exactly the places you want to send your machine if something major happens.

[@tieoneon1614]

Thats the price I remember seeing. Just seen MSRP on end of year '22 at $7999. Fricking ridiculous

[@rocb4222]

Where abouts lol,USA?or cnd?

[@woofman4796]

we have a 2015 can-am outlander max xt 1000 2up in mossy oak, today is 03/21/22 ,,, we live in west central florida,, we don't ride every day or every week, but after almost 7 years of riding ,, and just having it serviced regularly , no issues, we love it,, we paid $16,200 for it brand new, we are 100% can-am loyalists

[@papayork1907]

I`ve had my 2020 CForce 600T since Sept. 3rd of 2020. I have put 3000 miles on it over some of the roughest trails in Maine, from mudholes up to the seat to hill climbs with a pucker factor of 9.5 and this beast has come through it unscathed. My son rides along with me on a 2019 Polaris Sportsman 570, we both have winches that never get used for recovering our own machines, just used for helping others so far and trust me our machines have gone through where others have been recovered from. He has similar options on his machine, however, his cost $4200 more than my machine. Keeping this one for life and now getting ready to purchase a SXS from CF Moto. He doesn`t say it out loud but I think my boy would rather have a CForce...

[@remo900rr]

Have you had to change the belt yet?

[@papayork1907]

@@remo900rr nope not yet, I`m gonna carry one with me this year but so far it`s still riding like the day I picked it up

[@remo900rr]

@@papayork1907 thanks,that's good to know.I have the orange one,it's a 2021 with 850 miles on it.Never in mud or anything under pressure, so that gives me a bigger smile I bought it.

[@jimsaunders9987]

Had a cf moto 500 for several years Use it to push snow and for hunting It has worked flawlessly and I really like it Great dealer support helps a lot

[@DirtObseXXion]

Glad to hear it! A good dealership definitely goes a long way

[@ronaldgrimmig6659]

Have a 17 z800 trail. Have had no issues with it under 2300 miles of hard trail riding conditions. Maintenance is key. Best move I ever made getting away from Polaris. I'd buy another in a second but this one doesn't break. Most issues with these machines are driver abuse and lack of skills/common sense. And improper maintenance. All brands have their issues. I've had less issues with this machine than any I've owned besides older Honda and Yamaha. Ride this thing with the best of machines and even they are shocked at what it's capable of.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Nice!

[@3dwezzy740]

them lemons evertime gave me a reason to walk home when i rode to to my destination

[@dp1197]

For clarity when talking about warranty, you mention 5 years, which is specific only to Canada. I am not aware of any other global market selling CFMOTO that does that. Furthermore, Canada administrates their warranty after the factory warranty expires. Lastly, any manufacturer's warranty written is for defects of the parts or workmanship, which lot of people seem to think is a 'well I broke it, but it's not my fault, so it must be yours' policy.

[@michealwhynot]

Ya it's 5 years or 5,000kms I had a 2015 cfmoto 800 and it was junk I would never buy another one

[@eastofenglandgreenlaning]

Got 2500 miles on my 2020 CFORCE 550 and she is a sweet as a nut. Just came back from touring Wales on it am am pleased to say, I didn't need to winch up the first lane unlike the three CanAm's. The twin lockers made all the difference. Also, mine was the only one in our group not to overheat. It is well looked after and I don't do serious rough stuff or drown it but I do a lot of road miles. My mates were all so impressed we now have three more 550's in our laning group. We will see what the future holds.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great input brother, I hope you have many more great adventures!! 👍

[@chadmarcantel3697]

Hey all bs aside every manufacture has its flaws. I have owned multiple ATVs & UTVs from polaris, Honda, Arctic Cat, kawasaki, Suzuki & yamaha. I now own both 2021 Uforce 1000 and 2021 Uforce 800 and I am pretty impressed with the build quality, power and Looks. So far only complaint is the jerkiness in throttle which I was aware of but through clutching modification I made due to going with larger aggressive tires and lift kits I have eliminated the jerkiness. These machines are very powerful and competitive compared to all the other popular over priced brands that seem to be continuing to lack in quality and durability but keep going up on prices. In closing as a CFMOTO owner, personally I am very happy with mine and think these machines are a true threat to all the other major competitors.

[@lawrencesimard2666]

Bought Can am machine's in the past. Owned a Outlander and Renegade. Both were good machines. However decided to give cfmto Cforce 1000 a try now that their clutch is Canadian made and KTM bought into the company . 1770 klms in zero issues. Dealership in Steinbach Manitoba is awesome.

[@zachluke8297]

Cfmoto has been really rising the past few years I own a cforce 500 and my dad owns the zforce 500 and they are very impressive. Been seeing more and more out there at the parks. They’ve really came a long way and they are rising to become one of the many best you can get.

[@ajp368]

I’m ordering a 2022 z force 500 for my son . We looked at Polaris 570 Rzr they raised the 2022 price another $1000.00 . I went with the z 500 because of price point and other owners reviews

[@jossa942]

@@ajp368 any reviews

[@antoniokulusic8475]

I live in Croatia and im owner of TGB 600 SE-R ,bought it before almost 2 years and i traveled around 20 000 km with it and im satisfied how it performs..on the trails and roads i see lot of cf moto lately......

[@atvseatexchange2176]

I work at a dealership that sells CFMOTO and have driven them all from the 400 to the 1000. They've been around since the 90's and have a Manufacturing agreement with KTM dirt bikes in their main CFMOTO plant. In the last 2 years the legitimate complaints have been addressed and changes made by the next years model. They have some racing up in Canada also but their strong suit was clearly pointed out by you. All politics, flag waving or bad mouthing aside, we've got machines sold before they show up. I've got 5 atvs and 5 atcs I use around the property so I don't need any machines no matter what the brand, but these CFMOTOs surprised me. First timers or casual riders have a good option with the brand and if you need to ride balls out, you already know those brands that can deliver, at a price! Skip the warranty if you've got to pay for it, except for catastrophic engine failure, everything is considered a wear item.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome input! I know about the deal with KTM, it's not really relevant to their ATVs, but it's definitely an indicator that they can build high performance motorcycle engines! The CFMOTO motorcycles look pretty cool too..

[@atvseatexchange2176]

@@DirtObseXXion If they're learning about high performance engine technology from KTM, I think that is time well spent. You take what you've learned in life and apply it.

[@Twistedoff2]

I’m sorry but I’m tired of cheap Chinese crap coming over and taking market share even if it in the low price zone. Call me a flag waver or whatever but if you’re buying this crap, you obviously aren’t a flag waver and have already learned to speak Chinese. Let’s Go Brandon!

[@atvseatexchange2176]

@@Twistedoff2 First I would like to congratulate Brandon on his win in that particular race. Well done young man. Now to the author called twisted1, I'm curious about your personal history testing the CFMOTO brand and what specifically what flaws you encountered? My own reasons for avoiding politics stems back to 1990 when I was given 2 ten year prison sentences for my actions and refusal to cooperate. Since that time I've taken a careful look at those who have been in power and those currently in power. When you're on the outside looking in, and have no team or party affiliations, you can see things clearly. The world seems to be full of wordsmiths who can gain your trust and get you to think and say what they do for selfish reasons. I don't parrot others words or phrases because others repeat them , I do what's right for me and have been tested . Hopefully when you're tested you'll pass.

[@Twistedoff2]

@@atvseatexchange2176 Well, that’s measured and honest. I admire your support for your product. I have NO experience with CFMoto nor would I ever want to. I do have over 30 years riding ATV’s, but that’s really not the issue here and I think you know that based on your response. Mine is a response of character. When I see evil, I don’t want to be associated with it. When I see one man treat another as a dog, I not only don’t respect it, it makes me mad. I’m sorry if you don’t see politics in this but I do and my metal has been tested. I’ve seen communism first hand and I don’t like it one bit or anyone who would help in their path to world domination. Make no mistake that that’s what this is in a microcosm. I respect the response and the measured way you have brought it forward. I hope you can respect my response and my measured, respectful response.

[@MrJagarbast]

I have bought a cfmoto 850 and its Great. Snow, mud, at the farm, in the woods. Functional. Im happy every time I use it

[@drawncept8391]

I'm hearing more and more about CF Moto. I think of them the same way I thought of Polaris in the early 90s and Can Am of early 2000s. The biggest departure is that its from China. Also, lack of support here in the states. Its hard to say what will happen in a decade, however.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Shaping up to be a weird decade

[@drawncept8391]

@@DirtObseXXion Indeed, brother.

[@dp1197]

Over 500 USA dealers, several distribution centers around the USA that ship vehicles directly to those dealers, and a 56,000 square-foot parts warehouse and HQ in Minneapolis, MN.....is that lack of support?

[@crazyflyboy30]

I have a big Cfmoto dealer about 15 minutes away and right now it's about the only ATV'S are they getting in, Polaris out of stock, Kawasaki out of stock,and some other not worthy look at like Kymco and Honda.

[@conner7798]

@@crazyflyboy30 Honda probably makes the most reliable ATVs… what are you talking about?

[@sohrab1977m]

Own and love my 2020 Cforce 5002UP. New to ATV, so it does the job and does it well. No complaints so far. Would recommend it.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome 👌 thanks for the input 👍

[@DCSPORTSTER]

I’ve looked at them I think they’re built pretty well I’m pretty picky on quality. I like they have grease fittings on the suspension. They use a CVT transmission that’s made in Canada which is another plus. Engine is made in China but they sell some of the engines to other ATV manufacturers. At one time they only built engines and parts for other ATV manufacturers. There’s definitely a lot more dealers now than there use to be at least in southern Ontario. I bought a 800 xc 2 up. This ATV weighs about 1058 lbs. The others probably weigh 800 lbs. That tells me there is just a lot more metal to take the pounding. I’m ok with that ATV are not race machines.

[@davewilliams5725]

I bought my 2021 cforce 600 touring,,, in October and absolutely love it so far

[@chrise.400]

I have a 2022 XC800. Thus far (400 miles in), it has been awesome. No quality issues, very good initial build quality. Looking around the bike (and I have checked every corner and taken off a lot of the plastics just to inspect some of the engineering), it is evident they are aimed squarely at biting a good sized chunk out of the market, and not just as a value-brand but rather as a legitimate contender to Polaris and CanAm. Trailing arm rear suspension, piggy back shocks, excellent cable management, laser welded frame (that is pretty darn thick)…amazing lights, high quality paint and near perfect gap tolerances/body panel alignment etc. The list goes on. Say what you will (and people do), and notwithstanding any realities or fallacy remarks about China, these are very solid bikes. I come in to this having ridden a few different bikes, and the CF Moto feels/rides better than most. As a former Arctic Cat 700XT owner, I can tell you that there is no comparison - not even close. The AC was a giant pile of shit, constantly had problems, the fit and finish was terrible and cheap, just a pathetic display of engineering. None of this is the case based on my (admittedly short), experience with CF so far. Will you get more power and an awesome performing machine in a CanAm, sure. However, apples to apples - it it damn near impossible to justify the price difference in Canada between an Outlander 850 Max XT and the CF Moto 800XC. There is no way the Can Am is $5K ‘better’…and anyone saying otherwise is either a fanboy, ignorant, hates China, or doesn’t know shit about shit when it comes to machines. I pride myself on being pretty conscientious and honest about off-road vehicles, and the garbage Polaris is selling right now and the prices they are asking is flat out lunacy. Japanese brands are awesome, but singles are just not going to cut it for my needs. Brass tax - and bottom line is the CF line up is for real, anyone saying not hasn’t, or better yet doesn’t want to - acknowledge the reality of where they (CF), are in the market and what they are bringing to the table…which is to say: awesome machines at prices that are giving the other OEM’s heartburn…and rightfully so.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Great comment, thank you! I definitely agree that they're giving the other OEMs heartburn, and I think that's going to continue..

[@Mainly-boy-outdoors]

I went over to a dealer yesterday afternoon and talked to them and I picked it out yesterday and finalized it this morning picked it up and brought it home today! Paid almost 9700 for it but I wasn't quite that close enough.

[@CQReview]

At the time of buying my new 2018 C force 800, CF Moto had a lot of growing up to do in my opinion. They would let anyone buy a dealership regardless if they knew anything about the industry or not. The dealership I purchased my machine from didn’t even have a workbench for their mechanics to rebuild an engine on. I can recall three occasions were wheels simply fell off the units due to lack of quality control. Someone even got injured and was suing the dealership. Their supply chain was also very flawed here in Canada. They chose the equivalent of a small hicktown in Quebec to house their major Canadian warehouse. So shipping parts and accessories took an incredibly long period of time just because the access to this warehouse being so far out of town was ridiculous. In 2019 I was under the understanding that there wasn’t any REPs here in Western Canada to represent CF Moto. As for the machine itself, it did come with some great features. I especially like the Elka suspension. One of the most stable sure footed machines I’ve ever ridden. But the aerodynamics of the handlebars is quite uncomfortable. Having to reach out excessively far to grab the front brake handle. The throttle thumb becomes numb and tired A lot quicker than most other machines. The seat could have a bit more comfortable for the longer rides, the turning ratio is atrocious. the plastics and metals, rightfully so given the origin of the machine, are not the quality you’d find on other machines. They do have an impressive warranty, but it’s only of use if you have a competent dealership to fix your machine. It took my dealership six months to repair a leaky water pump and the same amount of time to replace a leaky headlight housing. I continue to do my research with CF Moto. I have become friends with a couple more dealerships now and I hear things are starting to improve. But the dealerships themselves will out right say don’t buy one of these expecting the same quality as a Japanese make. Not quite there yet. Thank you for the great video KZbin brother! I love your presentation of the brand and how you were trying to educate the public the best way possible. Keep up the great content!

[@robertplain9589]

Your full of shit

[@preparedbear5727]

I purchased a Cforce 500 for utility work around the house from a local vendor in town. the price was well below the Polaris and the shop was close. Unfortunately the shop closed and moved to the coast 4 hours away! the nearest dealer now is 1.5 hours away and this 500 is only 2 years old with low hours, fluid changed but still overheats in summer and this year (1st real winter,) after a mornings play in snow with kids, I parked it for an hour for us to warm up. When we came out it wouldn't start, the starter had frozen and didn't thaw out till 2 days later despite putting a heater blowing on it. my next toy will be a Polaris, it may cost more but support and dealerships are close. I learned my lesson, buy cheap, get cheap!

[@DirtObseXXion]

Thanks for sharing.. I'd go with something Japanese persona

[@preparedbear5727]

@@DirtObseXXion i just purchased a rzr 200 for the baby and considering a General (for utility/play)but not above considering the Rmax or the YXZ (all our dirt bikes are Yammys) not sure if they worked the bugs out of the YXZ yet. would have to test drive them

[@steveoakley4135]

I have 700 miles on my cforce 500 and have been very impressed. I have a fleet of wheelers, and I can honestly say that the cforce isn't the best at anything out of my collection, but it is a great all around wheeler. I love the FI and the EPS and the looks.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Awesome!

[@herefishyfishy6907]

Picking up my first CFmoto Uforce 800 in the morning. I have a small 10 acre hobby farm and enjoy hunting in the fall. I think this rig will serve it's purpose and do great for what I need at a price point I feel is fair.

[@johnmullaney3445]

How is it going for you?

[@admjlw]

After having listened to and watched nearly every review and technical teardown / fix video I can find, I recently purchased a CF Moto UForce 1000. Listening to this review, I have to think that Dirt Obsexxion is still holding onto negative bias simply due to it being different when he makes negative remarks about quality yet offers no specifics to back up that claim. If he really thinks they're lower quality - please tell us how/why/where. Could it be that CFMoto shaves a little on quality? Possibly, but so far from all those buying them and riding them up, it's not really showing up as a real problem. At least no worse than any other ridiculously high priced brand. The prices on the big names has become completely stupid. They all break on occasion, but CF Moto appears to be hanging in there quality wise with most of them.

[@DirtObseXXion]

Sort of... A reputation for quality is built over many years. If you look through the comments you'll see that even CFMOTO dealers say the machines weren't very good as recently as 6-7 years ago.. There's some evidence that the new machines are significantly better, but the time dues haven't been paid on new machines. Many folks like their CFMOTOs and are reporting good luck, quite a few are also reporting issues.. It is correct to say that's true for all machines, but there's plenty of 20yr old Hondas and Yamahas out there to prove it.. CFMOTO has been around for 25 years but I dare you to find a good running cfmoto over 10 years old

[@crazyflyboy30]

@@DirtObseXXion I know of a cfmoto Cforce 500 with 9400 miles with only a drive shaft has been replaced that about 10x better than my Sportsman xp 1000 is doing or even my last Kodak 700 EPS has even had some small problems.

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@DirtObseXXion Does KTM have a reputation built on quality?

[@DirtObseXXion]

@@jimmydesperado2936 I'd say KTMs reputation is built on performance but their partnership with cfmoto only applies to motorcycles.. I'm sure they have to build the motors to KTM specs but those motors aren't used in the ATVs

[@jimmydesperado2936]

@@DirtObseXXion Look....I get it. As a youtube channel hound you are beholden to your sponsors...and wouldn't think of propping up their competition...especially one from China. It's okay DO....I understand. Enough people have already commented on this thread that are owners of the brand...myself included. We know firsthand where the quality is. There's no debate...from someone who isn't an owner like yourself. My wife's 2019 Polaris sportsman 450 ho has a 500cc Linhai motor in it. It came that way from the factory. You do know the origins of Linhai correct? If you think they make a better small displacement 4 stroke motor than cfmoto...go ahead and change the channel name to Crack Obsexxion.

[@drdaledobek9882]

We got a 2021 800xc..2200km zero issues..flawles trail rides and plows snow all winter too ..starts in minus 25 cold like it was summer...great machine so far

[@Sparktrician]

I feel like you get what you pay for. I would rather buy a Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki etc for more money than a CF Moto. The older I get the more reliability moves up on my list. Plus I’ve never had issues getting parts on older Honda or Yamaha bikes. To each their own. Heck Polaris scares me these days. Nothing sucks the fun out of a ride like breaking down.

[@Noah_E]

Polaris are not reliable. We have a 2015 Ranger XP900 for riding a mile of trails at our cabin and it breaks down at least once a year.

[@stevenmiddagh6265]

@@Noah_E u are on drugs

[@daprib01]

I purchased my Zforce 950 Sport late summer 2021 and I have punished the living crap out of it. It's repeatedly been flogged through mud, snow, sand, gravel, deep water (into my lap deep) and gone through some rock crawls. I've even tested the suspension to the point of airing it out off of some big jumps. So far the only damage I've incurred was a cracked skid plate at the rear diff from a rather sharp rock at my favorite ORV playground. At this point I have roughly 600 miles on it and plan to put many more. If I do decide to part ways with my CFMOTO, it will only be because I'm going to need a 4 seat unit eventually.

[@centeroftheearthmining4095]

I think CF Moto is gonna be like Kia. The more popular they got the more expensive they became. I have a c force 500s and very happy with it… so far. Having said that I can only compare it to what I had before which was a 1997 Polaris Xpress 300. Apples and oranges lol!

[@mihaisebastian5092]

I have a cforce 450 s and i am very proud of it. Me and my pals go in hard roads and it goes perfect.

[@ajjacobs1338]

Love these videos guys I think cf Moto seems ok I mean the price point sure looks good but at the end of the day I feel like me personally I just go with a Yamaha Grizzly, now I love my can am but honestly the grizz would have been plenty. Thanks for video Chad and a shout out to Flying Brian 🤟🏻🤟🏻

[@DirtObseXXion]

Me too! Thanks AJ!

[@joeellis2692]

I had a 2016 Grizzly 708 eps. After buying it I realized it didn't fit my needs good enough. Plus I had too many problems with it. Hunting and food plots was my biggest goal. Grizzly had to wide of a turning radius. Pain in the butt getting through thick timber. A lot of back up pulling forward back up and pulling forward just to get around a tree. The 2 inch receiver wasn't strong enough for food plot attachments. I won't buy another Yamaha till they put the 850cc in the Viking. My 2021 Cforce 800xc isn't the greatest but it gets the job done. 13k for my Grizzly 8.1k for my Cforce definitely a price difference.

[@TeamMajin]

My 2021 can am outlander 850xt has been amazing I’ve owned Polaris, Yamaha and Suzuki. Nothing compares to my can am the ride quality is outrageous and how beefy everything is on my can am has had zero problems over 1500kms so far

[@daleshiffer8904]

Having owned other brands, the wife went with the cf600 after much shopping and comparing. So far it's held up great and she really has gained a lot of confidence of her own ability. When riding side by side with my sportsman, she tows the line and gets better looks. We added the Z950 sxs so we could take our son more often. It performs nicely and does everything we ask. Mostly trail and sand pit rides. It sounds better than Polaris non turbo and runs with them all. I like the changes coming in 2022. More options. A reputable dealer makes the difference.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I definitely agree, a reputable dealer is very important

[@michaelcalvin9690]

Love my 21" cforce 500s..... its sooo much fun! no issues as of yet ... had for 1 year..... lift kit came today :)

[@007Welder88]

I was very hesitant to get a CFMOTO because it's Chinese but since I was getting a 5yr warranty I figured it couldn't hurt to try out and it has all the features that the "premium" models of other manufacturers have but for alot cheaper. And so far I have to be honest and say I have been pleasantly surprised at how well my Cforce 500 has done. It handles great with the power steering. It doesn't have any problems going through any terrain in 2wd and I haven't really even needed the 4wd unless going up steep hills at a slower speed. Even tried out the winch to pull my son's atv up a hill and that worked great too. I really don't have any complaints.. so we are thinking about getting a 400 for my son or another 500 just because this one has been such a great ride thus far.. but hopefully it stays like that and I didn't just jinx it.

[@moshevivas9033]

Thank you Roger for the comment it help me think if i should grab one soon, in case you have update on the one that you own, please let us know more about it.

[@007Welder88]

@Moshe Vivas still rides really good.. nothing to complain about its still a great purchase im hoping to be able to buy another one this year for my wife because I enjoy it so much

[@moshevivas9033]

@@007Welder88 Thank you for the update, safe ride

[@didnot6961]

I brought a Cfmoto zforce 800 with a five year guarantee, I’ve had lots of problems with it and not one thing was covered by the warranty. And Cfmoto doesn’t reply to my emails

[@OTJay]

Definitely get another one we had two for two years and still no issues just bought another one today

[@MaxFuryan]

I own a 2022 Uforce 1000 and a 2023 Cforce 600 touring. Both have just over 1000 miles on them. Never an issue. Not one. And I don’t baby either one of them. I still own my 2000 Yamaha Grizzly with untold number of miles on it and it still runs to this day. Only time will tell if My CFMOTO’s will still be on the trails after 24 years of service.

[@RichardSandstrom1163]

I grew up with Quads and dirt bikes. I have owned all the major makes. I just recently looked into CFmoto and I'm glad I did. I bought a 2022 800XC and I couldn't be happier. The Ride , Power and Options are amazing for the price I bought it for. I think like anything as long as you maintain things the longer they will last. As far as buying a quad that is branded a China Made Quad I would say you would never know it was. Best thing to do is take one for a ride and see for yourself, you won't be disappointed!

[@waynewalleye8458]

price?

[@RichardSandstrom1163]

@@waynewalleye8458 I have the 2022 Cforce 800XC and it was 9k

[@andrewarbour5733]

I have a 2021 CForce 800 and it’s been great. Helped a lot with food plots last year.

[@robertmoore517]

I've been a hard-core Honda guy my whole life but I just purchased a brand new Cforce 600 Touring, mainly because of the price tag and out of curiosity. Time will tell if I chose wisely, I don't go out and mud bog or abuse my machines so I'm optimistic that the Cforce will hold up

[@DirtObseXXion]

I'd think it would.. The Motos have come a long way in the last 5 years.. Let us know how you like it!

[@brucerodenberg]

Been a year later you like the atv?

[@robertmoore517]

@brucerodenberg No I hate it

[@jreed10291974]

Bought a Uforce 600 last year I now have 1500 miles on it and no problems at all. Rides good plenty of power for trails I ride in the mountains. I own a Honda Pioneer 700 deluxe also with over 14k miles on it not one problem. I will be buying the Zforce 900 sport this spring. Buy the way the Honda will do 42 MPH Uforce 58 MPH

[@mishavlad9724]

I purchased a 2021 CForce 600 Tour in JUly. I think your review was certainly accurate and describes the failings or market-message of the other major brands. First I will say that not all people go out and beat the crap out of machines, race around, blah blah, blah. I bought CFMoto 600 Tour because of a wife to take along or whatever, and do not consider it a "Mistake Purchase". As someone said, americans are not shying away from Chinese cellphones and electronics, so don't be shy about a CFMoto either. It is total BS to discount (complain) about China internal policies, or pricing ow whatever. This view is EXACTLY what is wrong with america. It is OK for USA to do this or that, but BOT for others to do the same. USA sticks it's collective nose up its own ass to require other countries to be LIKE the AMERICAN WAY. (No missiles in Cuba, but OK to put missiles on Poland border). I have found my CForce 600 Tour, checking off all of the major points you addressed as value "Add-Ons". I find the headlights just awesome, rear light look GREAT!, racks work fine and are stronger than any I have had B4 with a Suz unit. The smaller things like 12v/USB connectors, pretty simple switches, and Info-Overload (JMO) on dash display are awesome. You did not mention actual 4-wheel disk brakes which is nice. The absolute Trump-card (pardon that word!) was much lower price than anything else out there. I agree that dealerships are dickheads as local one adds over $1500 to base price. No thanks dickhead. I bought out-of-state because I found a friendly and fair priced dealer who actually had many CFMoto units as their major brand. I do agree on excessive heavy weight. I don't know what they have to do to make it lighter, but it could afford to loose 100#. I use my CForce 600T to plow heavy snow on long-hill driveway. Tires do fine so far, even in 13" snow. No complaints there. My MAJOR bitch would be STICKING IN GEAR ON A SLOPE! - TOUGH TO GO TO REVERSE/FORWARD as needed. I plan to take side panels off and adjust SHIFTING MYSELF! Same local dealer worthless. Bottom line, I would buy my CFMoto CForce 600 Tour again in a heartbeat. It fits my needs and wallet.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I think it's OK to want to save money and still criticize the CCP.. Truth, if you but these from a dealership in America you're still contributing to the America economy.. Suspicion of the CCP and a little bit of Xenophobia is definitely not the problem with America..

[@billfleming8281]

I’ve got the complaint while plowing , trying to shift is a complete PIA if it’s on Sony sort of incline or decline . Other than that , I love the unit !

[@drdonvulcan8353]

I am going tomorrow to see a 2020 CFMOTO 600. I am a 1st time buyer looking for power, reliability, and comfort in a two-seater 4x4. It looks to be doable with the 600-cc engine, rear seat with arm guard and back rest and only 250 miles on the odometer. I favored this combination over a brand name ATV with 20 years of roading and the usual upkeep that is needed each year. At 72 and my wife 80 years young, we look forward to Ice fishing without walking miles and hunting without climbing the hills behind the house or dragging the prize home after a successful hunt. We may only be able to do this just a few years but am betting this affordable ATV will work for us vs a top of the line 15- to 20-year-old brand name for almost twice the money.

[@bigjay6743]

I live on my ATV and out of all the bikes I've had this being the 7th my cfmoto 600 has been great. Still makes me a little nervous with all the electronics but most ATVs are like that now. With that being said its over a 1000km and it hasn't missed a beat and I've put it through its paces. So far so good 👍

[@darrellmcquay9808]

Every comments seems to be my bike has 74km on it problem free! I want to see someone say they have 27,000 on it and see what they’ve had to replace

[@PragmaticTornado]

Bought a 2021 Cforce 1000 last summer, still runs without a hitch. And it got through the winter without studded tires, no problems. A beast at shoveling snow, and without the snow plow it's fast enough to be fun. Sold my motorcycle after I bought one. It's a good complement to my Tesla. One vehicle for the nice roads and one for everything else.

[@jasoncuster7221]

I have a 2014 Yamaha Grizzly 550 and love it . I wish Yamaha would still make something in the 500-600 class built on a full size chassis. I get why the manufacturers are putting all their efforts into SxS because that’s what is selling. It’s the same reason most car manufacturers quit building cars and concentrate all their attention to SUV’s. Love the part about all the Polaris recalls. For me it’s Yamaha all the way . I love your videos. Keep up the good work

[@danlux4954]

An extended frame 2up as well

[@Clownbaby666]

I love my 15 grizzly 700 and just sold my 15 xmr 650. Hated it. Looking at replacing with a overland 1k. But if Yamaha comes out with a 2 up grizzly im all in.

[@gregrowe1168]

Unfortunately manufacturers are in business to make money so while Yamaha still makes the Grizzly 700, it’s really not much different than when it debuted 15 years ago. If you had an older one, there would be no reason to upgrade to a new one if it’s still in good shape.

[@brandonp2562]

We rented a 450i on vacation. It isn’t as bad as it could be but still sucked. If you turn the key too far forward it turns off. One time when I took a tight turn it turned off. When I let if idle at a stop after running for 30 minutes it immediately died. That happened almost every time I let it idle. If you don’t give it gas it dies right away. Some of this could be due to people treating rentals poorly. Regardless, it added some stress that I couldn’t rely upon it in a foreign country and constantly worried about getting stranded. I would never buy one.

[@kidrock271]

I own a 21 zforce 950 sport and absolutely love the machine. Biggest things hurting the brand itself are the dealerships who overprice them or turn away warranty work. Its not the company's fault for that. Only other thing is the lack of aftermarket parts and accessories for the brand which has been changing due to growing popularity of the machines.

[@kit38801]

What dealership turned away warranty work?

[@jacobgunnoe2067]

We built 3 to race in gncc, one competed in 4x4 pro, one in 4x4 c and the year before had a 500S built in 4x4 lites! Great machines

[@destinhook3826]

Where do you race

[@thatoneguy2756]

I never saw any cf motos race gncc.

[@Yan7001978]

Very rare that I totally agree with reviews comparison. Been riding for 34 years and...I'm 43. Personnaly I've owned Blaster, trx250r, quadracer 250r, banshee, trx300 4x4, ltz400, kfx400, trx450, outty 400, trx700xx (I've owned a couple at the same time) and now I ride an outty R XXC. I dont mind the brand, just want something that wheelie, got strong pull, a adjustable suspension and got alot of aftermarket support. CF is not for me. I wont buy any chineese complete bike or car, that is not my way of thinking. Yeah every brand deal with china but at least I buy something build here in america.

[@DirtObseXXion]

I'm with you there! Love that machine list too! I've had tons but right now I have a Raptor 700 and 07 LTR450

[@luisburgos768]

Check one of those "American made" brands and count how many parts are made in China, you'll be surprised

[@Yan7001978]

@@luisburgos768 Absolutely, this is what I've mention in my last sentence. The XXC I own, the plastics and some hardware screams china😆 At least I got fox shocks coilovers slow and fast compression and rebound. Oh and 91 hp stock. The Griz and the Kingquad got a better fit and finish thats for sure and spec a japan made atv for reliability.

[@juliansaunders6163]

Can am also put together in Mexico not states I believe