Emergency and SHTF Wood Heat 16 Degrees Fahrenheit Using The Liberator Rocket Stove Heater

We tested the Liberator Rocket Stove Heater at 16 degrees Fahrenheit by turning all other heat sources off and letting the Elmira wood cook stove go out. We tested with the pellets and the cordwood. Results were that the basement room with the stove was in the 80's, the other rooms in the basement were in the 70's, and the upstairs was between 68 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit.
If you have electricity you use fans to move the heat. Without electricity you would want to stay in the room with the stove most of the time. We have two wood stove, one upstairs and one down for that reason. If the power was out both levels of our house would be able to stay warm.
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[@thornhedge9639]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Great information!

[@dirtpatcheaven]

Oh I hope it is helpful! Stoves are so expensive and it's better to know up front whether they work or not!

[@anastasiakakoulidou-karama4569]

Hello family! Greate vid as always! Ana.

[@Stove1971]

Complimenti per i vostri video....e per la stufa Liberator

[@jazfarm5726]

We have iron grates in the basement ceiling with computer fans to pull the heat up. Works pretty good. Keeps our propane furnace from coming on. We went through that fan thing like you are doing. You will not get the heat to go up the stairs as the cold air from up there will descend down the stairwell. To get the heat upstairs you have to be able to get it to circulate upstairs and allow the cold come down the stairs

[@billv4072]

That open stair well should allow plenty of heat to rise upstairs and some cold air to drop to the downstairs. Putting small vent fans in the 2 grates (vents) above the stove will help draw heat upstairs, too. A much quieter solution. Cold air has to drop downstairs to get convection.

[@wiredmonkey2000]

I have the 1st gen Liberator Rocket Heater and I would suggest using a 4in damper on the inlets. There are holes pre-drilled just for this reason. When I'm burning pellets and damper down I can get a 40lb bag of pellets to last 12-16 hours.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

Thank you for the tip!

[@davecokain8688]

use an exhaust damper as well and you can get 22hrs

[@johnlogan4053]

I saw a video about adjusting the tube for the pellet hopper length to 19 1/4 inches. For optimum pellet feed/ time. Also if you hook up the fresh air feed and close off the other side. It will be more efficient. Not taking hot air from the room.

[@williamdelotto1786]

Old homes had floor grates over furnaces.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

We do have grates over the heater and it does heat the upstairs a little but the basement gets REALLY hot if we don't have the fans going.

[@kandiwolfe1125]

I bet it cooled off pretty darn quick when you shut it down!!

[@bernadette6618]

Great video. 2 questions. After the 8-hr pellet burn, how long was it before upstairs rooms cooled down to "feeling chilly?" (Did the floor hold onto heat and act like a thermal-mass radiator?) And when you switched over to cordwood, I saw you put metal cover on top of feeding tube. Is that necessary? or could you use longer pieces of wood that extend say, a foot out of that tube and "self-feed" for a longer period of time? (Thinking straight, pollarded shoots1.5" diameter...)Or even longer pieces if secure.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

It depends on how cold it is outside. At 20 degrees Fahrenheit the upstairs stays warm for a couple of hours. At 9 degrees Fahrenheit you just want to keep the stove going all the time. The concrete walls and floors hold the heat really well at 20 degrees outside, not so much in the single digits. You never want wood coming out the top of the feed tube with cordwood. I have seen people end up with a live fire out the top of a batch box for a homemade rocket stove with long pieces of wood out the top.

[@kathymarsden5757]

Thank you.very clear and concise. Did you have to feed the cord wood every 15 minutes?

[@dirtpatcheaven]

With cordwood we do feed it every fifteen minutes.

[@wildedibles819]

That's great

[@TheZookman1]

Try a heat powered fan on the stove for circulation.

[@claytonroberts344]

Where can someone buy one

[@lancerudy9934]

How long will a 40 pound bag of pellets burn for??

[@MrStropparo]

A few floor grates to the second floor would change the natural convection in the house. Just a thought.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

We have two floor grates right over the top of the stove and it does move the heat up but the basement gets really hot compared to the upstairs without the fans going.

[@MrStropparo]

I bought low voltage electric fans to put in the floor grates to move the air better. It works great.

[@MrStropparo]

I’m toying with the idea of an attic louvre fan to pull warmth up to 2nd floor.

[@airman6822]

That is an interesting pellet stove design. Would be nice to be able to control the burn rate though. If it really burns 40# in 8 hours, that's a lot. I can typically go at least double that with my pellet stoves (40# per 16-18 hours depending on outside temp). I have 2 different brands, Harmon and Whitfield. I have one centrally located in my living room and will heat the entire house, no fans. However, it is electric but I have a ecoflow delta pro as my backup, charged on standby.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

It is a good question. Some people here has suggested that we put a damper in the chimney and that they have had success with it. We are currently working on getting the fresh air intakes installed and thinking through a mass to absorb some of the excess heat. This is pretty preliminary especially with the pellets since this is our first time with that fuel source. Jon and I will see if we can make sure to record all of these other options are we work through them. Thank you for the good question for me to ponder.

[@davecokain8688]

I've got the liberator rocket stove and I get 22 hrs from a 40 lbs bag of pellets, you need a fresh air intake with a damper and an exhaust damper. it took me about 6 bags to get it right, I've got a 1500 sq ft home and the entire home was 68 degrees on Christmas weekend when it was 30 below with windchill. it gets hotter with cord wood but the pieces need to be longer and it prefers 2x2 chunks or smaller but will burn bigger depending on how hot the fire is.

[@kingscairn]

I dont know - to many ' electric ' fans - vulnerable to blackouts - rather than depending on fans I'd prefer floor / ceiling registers ( adjustible vents ) like I grew up with in 50's - hot air rises , cold air drops - the heat rises up through registers and cooled air falls down stairs & sucked across the floor by the fire /chimney draw - viola , passive circulation - of course, home construction makes a difference too - ours was basically a two story square box with coal furnace in basement that only vented to main floor while upper floor was passively heated with floor registers - dont remember ever being cold - as long as we had coal , in NE Ohio.

[@poodledaddles1091]

Yep I remember the grates and standing over them to catch the heat first!

[@poodledaddles1091]

It is surprising that the warm air will not gently float into the cold rooms on its own, but you are right it has to be forced with the fans. I guess we have to remember the old time stories of the potbelly stoves in the middle of the large rooms like a school house. I guess if things got really bad you could probably get by with heating only the downstairs for awhile. Good insulation is the cheapest alternative to using more energy…but nothing is cheap.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

We do have two grates right above the stove in the basement. We do pretty well without the fans if the temps are in the 30's Fahrenheit. When we get into the teens and single digits our home is so twisty and turny in the way that the air flows that it doesn't reach bedrooms without fans. It is the design of the house not the fault of the stove.

[@kingscairn]

@@dirtpatcheaven yeah, new houses are designed to modernity - we've lost old fashioned tried & true tech

[@poodledaddles1091]

Interesting!

[@lancerudy9934]

😊

[@CoastalGardening]

😎👍

[@justme-uw6bz]

Os there anywhere on top of the rocket stove to put a kettle to have boiling water when needed?

[@richardmcgrath61]

I believe there is a flat surface on top of the chamber where the vortex rages, where a water container can sit. This hot water will also release its heat into the surrounding air as the fire cools.

[@claytonroberts344]

$2,000 + dollers no way man

[@richardmcgrath61]

It would be worthwhile provided you can store the huge heat that comes off the vortex chamber in pebbles or cob.

[@kansaIainen]

It needs AIR for burning. Why do you take this air form INSIDE, you could use the that is OUTSIDE. Inside air is warm, you pull the warmth out by using inside air.

[@dirtpatcheaven]

We haven't been able to connect the fresh air intakes yet. Still working on the logistics.

[@richardmcgrath61]

Absolutely agree, I am going to have an external intake connected for our wood burner which should stop the draught problem that we have when the fire is burning.

[@jerkball07]

EdibleAcres channel has an interesting video on how he prepares kilning. He created a jig out of a old car tire. He also heats using wood so he has to improve his cutting game.