Operator station creator creature and final thoughts on the Hyundai and Volvo excavators

[@sassafrasvalley1939]

When my daughters were about 6-8 years old, they invited their cousin to go with us to look at some puppies. There were two... one was brown... the other was tan. One was male, the other was female. One was feisty the other was shy. When we were leaving, my daughter asked cousin Josh which one he liked best. He said, “It’s hard to say. They’re exactly the same almost!” You sir, did an admirable job of evaluating puppies!

[@TATEXPRESSINC]

Keep up to great work on the videos

[@michaelkoop6731]

More good info Mike. Thank u again. Like how u split it up.

[@justinmills8084]

You are very well spoken when you are explaining things on the spot. I always have wanted to be able to do that. I was voted the shyest guy in my graduating class. Lol I have came a long way in the last 30+ years.

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks Justin

[@tbix1963]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and incites. Good non biased comparison. Looking forward to hearing your commentary on the 120 rebuild results, sounds like you may be back to just your own machines. Interesting to see if you miss the Hyundai once it’s gone. Can definitely see the merits for the dial control on the thumb. The greater throw range providing a finer resolution was also a good point. Stay safe, wishing you and your family the best.

[@dirtediggin]

Haven't been in the Volvo to compare, but I was impressed with the feel and precision of the Hyundai in the challenge. Great video Mike.

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks buddy

[@frank4532]

Great job love the comparison of the machines

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@CMDSR]

Great job on this one too.

[@robertmarshall4719]

Great video Mike. I like how you spend time talking about each machines. I in joy all of video

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@butchbailey8565]

I see that HYUNDAI IS YOUR FAVOURITE. Mine is VOLVO and I would be surprised if they wouldn’t have a touch screen. The location of the ignition switch is a safety measure so you can’t start machine unless in the cab. You should have given MSRP for both machines.

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

It’s amazing but it’s always the little convenience things that over time mean the most. Every one understands some big things are not viable to change. But we all know how much better a covenant thing works. We are all the same easier is always better. 👍👍 great content.

[@DirtPerfect]

Agree thanks

[@edwardgaskin4245]

Great video Mike, looks like both machines are a good choice. I prefer Caterpillar myself. My dad was the demo guy for Cat for almost 20 years. I worked for Ringhaver for a while

[@fulltiltgrading8366]

Very thorough Mike! 👍🏻

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@pnwRC.]

Good video, my friend. I'll have to re-watch it later in the week when I'm not on pain meds.

[@DirtPerfect]

👍

[@brucehuff5566]

Nice job on pro and con. I hope that would help someone ask more of the right questions when looking to purchase. Thanks for that. Stay safe

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks Bruce

[@VideosByAl]

Awesome Video ! Big thanks to Tyler and Reco Equipment. I'll will be impatiently waiting until the August videos of the Cat mini and the Hyundai mini comparison . More subscribers are going to be in the market to buy or rent a mini.

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks al

[@sonnyblazer5504]

Just found this 7 minutes old. So now, I'll go watch it. First thing I saw was "creature comforts". Getting in, door size. There's getting used to and NOT liking to have to. Not happy with the lack of step availability especially in muddy, wet weather (snow for some). Controls seem right there on the Hyundai as if a USER had a heavy interaction with the engineers to build this thing. The screen & controls up front are a winner all day long for anyone. Touch in the same place you look and Mike, LOOK & SEE height is great as you pointed out. The key a little hidden does have a safety control so either way on that one. (Kids will touch what is easily seen.) I like that you set higher in the "H" but have to work (climb harder) to get there and in & out many times per day is a workout. VOLVO A/C control was not designed well. Hunt & peck is bad enough on a laptop computer. Surprised at that lack of attention in build for the USER! GUYS: Thank you both, Tyler & Mike but this is where I jump out. Have to leave the operation to you Mike (main USER) as I don't comment on what I don't touch. Bottom line seems the Hyundai 'can' be a winner here, BUT? Then there are SO MANY other brands out there. HOW does one DECIDE??? Thanks. Sonny (CT)

[@gregcothrum4045]

Great video y'all have a great day and stay safe 👍

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@randynbham]

Hope RECO sells a lot of machines!!! seem like great folks to deal with.

[@DirtPerfect]

Yup me to

[@pucevelour]

I have a neighbor with a Hyundai wheel loader. The machine is very nice to run, but when a hydraulic sensor went kaput, it took several weeks to get it in from Korea. That time delay cost money. Maybe it was a rare occurrence for the warehouse to be out of stock, who knows? Parts and service are a major factor though. Great comparison, and I like your attention to detail. You expressed your opinion well on details many operators might consider 2nd nature. When I go to purchase another machine, I'll make sure to watch this video again.

[@DirtPerfect]

Volvo parts come form the same place

[@bobvernon8925]

Those last two video's were really interesting and enjoyable two watch, it appears that they are both good machine's, But as i said in one of my other comments, you really, really like the Hyundai, and i can see why, Cheer's

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks bob

[@waltermattson5566]

Great video. Maybe you get enough excavator work to have one of each someday.

[@keithdalton3004]

Thanks 😊

[@magnificentshine1]

Mike what about maintence differences? Greasing, fueling, filter access, oil changes and changing attachments?

[@DirtPerfect]

Over all about the same

[@robertsimpson772]

Great video Mike. Thanks to Tyler and Reco equipment for giving you the opportunity to demo the Hyundai and also the chance to do the comparison videos. I remember it came down to Volvo and Hyundai when you bought the Volvo. If you could've got a chance to demo that Hyundai before you made your purchase would it have made a difference in your decision? Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions about these machines with us.

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks Robert

[@toddreynolds8875]

Totally agree on thumb control prefer it 10 x. With thumb control on joystick. Over a foot pedal. Have had many of both but im sure you can get eiether way on both machines. Cuz in the. Hyundai's i have. 4 of them have hydro thumbs 3 are foot. And one is joystick

[@abikerinpa]

I hit the like button for you Mike , been subscribed 😎 ... good job bossman !

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks appreciate that

[@ROTTK9]

the doors, try being the person who has to pull the seats to work on them, structure wise ( crush resistance ) the larger door has to be more solid for support, where the frame is the support on the smaller one so the door does not need to be as heavy duty. visual displays, the smaller display and is placement looks more of a chore than an asset, but was better than what was there before ( D-series ) and tons of room for improvement. over all both videos give a good idea of what each machine has to offer and a blend of them would most likely be a great machine

[@baydengardam7896]

Hi, if you were buying the Hyundai new would you spec it with rubber tracks or not..?

[@DirtPerfect]

Not for me

[@bump6469]

As my old boss would say KISS keep it simple stupid. I would prefer the Hyundai due to simplicity enjoyed the video thanks for y'alls time.

[@DirtPerfect]

Agree with that statement

[@richardhedrick5601]

Real good video Mike

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@garyklavon5298]

nice job on both machines mike

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@LitlD]

Other things you could have, and maybe should have covered are the daily hassles. Which is easier to fuel, grease, access to check for leaking hoses, daily cab cleaning, all those little things that you should do daily, but occasionally skip because the are a pain in the butt. Which has the most crevasses for phones to fall into, or leaves and sticks to collect?

[@indexator86]

Hello. I drove a 2011 hyundai 145 from 2013-2017. Once i dropped my phone one the right side counsel. Took almost 30 minutes before i got it out. I drive a volvo ec380d now and the way it is built my phone cant fall in the same way. Another feature the hyundai has is with a press on a button on one of the joystivks you get low idle(800rpm) on enging speed, with another push you get work speed again, the standard set is auto idle wich lowers it to 1000rpm after 4-5seconds

[@Feub69]

Proportionnal control on the joystick exist on Volvo, it's optional... Like many other thinks. Many other change with models and year of build.

[@DirtPerfect]

👍 yup

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

The key switch location might be a safety consideration where they want you to be in the cab to start it. As you point out, it takes time in the seat to understand what you like and don't like and most people don't get a chance for that seat time. It might be a good idea to rent a machine for a month or two and try various machines before buying one. If you purchase new, you can order it the way you want it but when buying used, you have to buy what's available and there might not be an opportunity to run a used unit for an extended time.

[@DirtPerfect]

Most machines are like the Hyundai

[@tiredoldmechanic1791]

@@DirtPerfect We had Koehring 6650s, Atlas 1604, Atlas 1704, Liebherr 934s and 944s, Sennebogen 835, A Fuchs MHL350 and a Komatsu PC 400 that all had the key switch on the right hand side of the seat near the seat back so about where the Volvo key is. If I remember correctly, I believe the Kobelco we looked at in 2015 did too.

[@johnmartin-sg7cv]

Ok so both machines are very good with a slight preference for the Hyundai. What I would like to know is difference in price new and running costs. Which one is cheaper in spare parts and servicing. Which one is easier to grease and service. My thinking is you would get used to each machines quirks and end up using either of them very well but the difference in the cost of running them would be a decider for me.

[@DirtPerfect]

I can’t say for sure. Need more time but think the Hyundai would win that

[@ramtuff2007]

good video

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@bhermon265]

Great video

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@wildtimbrown]

Did I miss the thanks to logger Wade for the venue? At least I THINK that you were at Logger Wade's place ;-)

[@DirtPerfect]

Yes we where

[@arnoldromppai5395]

like i said in the last video, because og you Dirt P i normally always rent a Cat 301 for all the farm work i have to do, and one day i will buy one, but i rented a Hyundai 45z-9 witch is a 8200 Lb machine, a little more then a 1000 Lbs heaver then the cat 301, witch i expected would have better performance, my 5 day booking ended up being 7 days and still never got half the things done i needed to, and i know with the cat 301 i would have got it all done in 5 days, the 45z-9 has no hydrolic power any were close to the cat 301 and the same go with the speed everything moves, on a side hill with a full bucket on the 45z-9 it will not swing up hill , it cant dig more then 2 inchs deep in red clay at a time, the stick boom is totally dead on power, so far i have uploaded 2 videos showing the small jobs i was trying to do, and it a fight to get it to do anything, i dont know if it is just that Hyundai a very poor hydrolic pump or what, but i am told a cat pump cost $10,000 cnd to buy and the Hyundai pump is ony a few thousand dollars, now i dont know if this is true, also all the air controls are behind the seat, witch is a real pain, so is the radio but even worse its above your head, and a guy like me with a bad back, man its a killer, and the cab door is so tight to fit though and how my times i hit my head getting in, to me it was a total waste of over 1700$ for 7 days, i have to rent the cat to finish up what i need done, i just gave up fighting that 45z-9, i couldnt even snap a 3" poplar tree off or pluck it from the ground, and to brake the small roots it take 5 or 6 digs at each side to do so..i will not be renting another Hyundai .. note i have run heavy equipment all my life, i am 59 now

[@casycasy5199]

great review ,get a rv level bubble to put on your equipment.their cheap and easy to install

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks and yes have a few around just need to install

[@James-kb5qi]

I know what you mean about Volvo air conditioner controls. Our Volvo ec480el a/c broke before I ever figured out how to get cold air out of it.

[@senankeane]

The Hyundai looks like a very nice machine but I think the only way to tell which one suits someone best would be to sit of each one for a while. Everyone has different preferences and requirements in a machine like that

[@DirtPerfect]

Agree

[@ko9446]

You lost me at Pepsi. How does Mt Dew fit? The all around view was something that came on tour busses. I thought it was a gimmick. I will tell you that I became dependent on that quickly. Amazing how much of a game changer it became. When I worked for the State as a Mechanic we had a PC220LC3 that I was called out to during a rain storm. Every window was blown out. I couldn’t figure out what happened. We replaced the glass and put it back in service. A few months later a hydraulic hose was leaking on the boom. When I climbed up there I figured out how the glass got broken, the machine had a lightning strike. Operator never had a clue that happened.

[@136plumber]

You talked about searching for the buttons on the Volvo, 1 time is money in your business. And depending on how many times you do it, searching for buttons can take up a lot of time and be the reason you get a job done one day or have to come back the next day. 2 it would be a safety concern, every time you take your eyes off the bucket, you spend time making sure nothing got in your way. Just an opinion from a plumber!

[@DirtPerfect]

Very true

[@goodtry1550]

Anyone that can look over their left shoulder and see out of the right side window of the machine is one person you DO NOT want to mess with!!! lol OR they need to turn around and face the correct direction. That would make it a lot easier to run the controls.

[@sassysaucysurviving7749]

Great video... still think that Hyundai is missing a key element... STICKERS! 😂🤷‍♀️

[@DirtPerfect]

It may have one 😜

[@sassysaucysurviving7749]

Of course 😜

[@andymoss3132]

Tyler forgot to mention promo code dirt perfect for 25% off...

[@DirtPerfect]

Lol

[@gregorybondi5220]

I think the review alone should cover any cost difference in Tyler getting you a brandy new Hyundai in exchange for your Volvo. You have basically worked to see their product! Positive selling points for them

[@DirtPerfect]

Lol like the way you think 😁

[@zzirSnipzz1]

Only knowledge i have is a 10,000 Hour volvo loading shovel that drives like new compared to some other machines

[@phylliswilliams8626]

Which is easier to access engine and hydraulic systems?

[@jaquigreenlees]

They did cover that in part 1, a little bit easier in the Volvo BUT, the Hyundai has everything labelled so it is easier to find the different areas of the systems making it easier to fix problems or order replacement parts.

[@DirtPerfect]

Hyundai

[@brucedickison8788]

what year is the Volvo?

[@DirtPerfect]

2015

[@Crewsy]

As far as access and what you measured remember that shoulders are wider than hips or knees. Clearly that wasn’t a factor for you getting in or out even though you didn’t measure the upper door width. With the wider door I would have assumed the Volvo would provide better visibility to the left because the door post is behind you and doesn’t obscure your view. Overall it seems like a very unbiased review of the 2 machines which is why your subscribers would be okay with you accepting items for reviews that you can actually find the need to use. Too many KZbinrs do reviews on items that you never see in any following videos.

[@michaeltechroom]

you made laughs of getting confused of the volvo two controller knob and that should be a volvo joke of the day

[@jdig1984]

I think hyundai are on a par with Hitachi and make good excavators up to 20 tonne weight class and the 13 to 14 tonne weight class that you work at. Great for owner operators and housing sites. Over 20 tonnes excavators when you go into the bulk digging deep drainage and open cast quarries that's where the volvos the komatsu and cat and liebherr also are out on their own with proven reliability and customer support. Truth is they all make good machines and share similar ideas it's down to personal preference and the circumstances and budget you have got

[@kurtkuipers9473]

Which one does better and fuel who burns burn more fuel which one has more power and motor wise

[@DirtPerfect]

They are very similar

[@DanielGouldingnavy]

Time to compare loaders next Tyler

[@BZ1340]

Too bad it wasn’t a direct comparison. Hyundai should of given you a machine they had, that was it’s competition. Not zero radius, etc. Same thumb set up. BUT Good review as always. The biggest dif. The rubber tracks are a huge bonus in certain situations. But a fault in others. The Volvo needs a detail. Hello CK . You can polish the mirrors to your liking.

[@DirtPerfect]

I prefer the lcr want to see the difference between the two

[@BZ1340]

I was wondering does Volvo make a comparable zero clearance machine. I looked on their site but too confusing. Might be in the wrong site etc.

[@adriancarey7848]

Wonder which one is harder on fuel? Car diesel in Europe is at least twice US but farm diesel is currently $2.14 per gallon inc 13% sales tax. I think you guys are paying $2.90 ish?

[@DirtPerfect]

2.59 right now

[@dougthiel754]

Mike hasn't been in love with the Volvo since he brought it home. Not sure why he bought it.

[@DirtPerfect]

Need a machine

[@CaptKirk1701]

Apples to oranges, they both dig don't they? lol

[@DirtPerfect]

Lol very true

[@f250ford2004]

great video on your likes & dislikes of each.

[@DirtPerfect]

Thanks

[@Sam465]

Can a Hyundai control panel work on a Volvo?

[@DirtPerfect]

No

[@robinbradley610]

You mentioned putting a level on your excavator how about a level from a camper I believe they have a peel and stick

[@timothyball3144]

I know a guy whose dad was a better operator drunk than most operators sober and taught his son to hold the control handles low because you had better control. I'm not an operator so this confused me, especially with a thumb or running a hammer. How do you reach the controls when you have your hands so low?

[@beozzie690]

What’s the price difference? That’s something you didn’t cover.

[@BZ1340]

Yep totally agree. That would be the deal breaker. If it’s significant.

[@jdig1984]

I would imagine volvo more expensive with the added value of More dealerships

[@olnamgrunt9857]

You gotta clean up Wade's place .loll

[@jerrydyke2291]

Those excavators need a sliding door! Seems to me that would be very Beneficial,but that was just a dumb thought I had.🙄

[@DirtPerfect]

Not a big fan of the one on the mini I have not for sure about that

[@toddreynolds8875]

Sliding doors were on alot of the 70's era years. American excavators. I agree with. Mike not a fan. Take a swinging door anyday

[@jaquigreenlees]

To easy for the track to get filled with dirt, damaged because some branch whacked it either of which causes problems with the door.

[@Graveltrucking]

Somebody is gaga with the Hyundai hope Jenna knows her husband is falling in love with somebody else LOL. You've got legs like a giraffe for guys like myself who are only 5'9" not being able to step on the track to get into the machine would drive me nuts. If I was buying a Hyundai it would have to have steel shoes so there is something to step on.

[@DirtPerfect]

Lol

[@kevinwatts1835]

So it seems like you like the Hyundai a lot more than the Volvo. Why did you buy the Volvo and not Hyundai?

[@DirtPerfect]

Cover that very well in the purchase video

[@donbavol9672]

I am one of those that actually watches the ads to allow for more revenue, but recently, your videos have been drawing ads that are 50 minutes to an hour and a half long. I am not watching that. That isn't an ad that is a 2 AM infomercial.

[@DirtPerfect]

Sorry don’t have much control over that 😬

[@donbavol9672]

@@DirtPerfect I know that. Just frustrated because I try and support those channels that give great content and KZbin doesn't play along. Would be interesting to know if I did just let that play through, wouldn't actually increase your revenue?

[@mikenixon9164]

As i am 5ft 7 i think the height difference would be a big thing.

[@DirtPerfect]

I am 6ft 4 no problem for me

[@jaquigreenlees]

Mike actually mentioned the biggest part of the difference in height, the rubber pads on the tracks. Without those you could step onto the tracks climbing in or out, with the same wider track option as the Volvo you have the same foot stability as well.

[@davidmeynen8120]

bout a year build quality wasnt up to much

[@briandancause2722]

Sounds like it’s time to trade the Volvo in for a Hyundai 😂

[@DirtPerfect]

😁

[@lesr5737]

PS the distance between the crack and the car body you did not take into account the rubber pads how thick what was the major event of the thickness of the pads you probably would have close to the same problem if the Volvo had rubber pads on it and vice versa you kind of split that one kind of Fall by the wayside

[@michaelstark703]

Sell the Volvo to logger wade and buy a Hyundai with metal tracks. It’s not how well you dig, it’s how well you dig fast

[@donbullock8790]

If you had both new machines side by side, equal in all options, I would feel better about your comments. Otherwise I think it's an advertisement for Hyundai.

[@DirtPerfect]

Lol Don ok think you completely missed the point it Thanks for watching anyway 🤷‍♂️

[@digndurt6936]

Can't get much closer to each other Don.

[@mikesmith-je3zt]

Don Bullock yeap

[@RBelairjr]

It sounds like you're trying to find things to say good about Hyundai over Volvo. hmmm lol

[@DirtPerfect]

No say what I see and think 🤷‍♂️

[@briant04200]

do you wish you would have bought the Hyundai over the Volvo

[@DirtPerfect]

Some days

[@jaquigreenlees]

Mike, There is one thing on the Hyundai that would be an absolute no for me. Touch Screen. Those things just do not like me so I would never buy something with one. I can't trust the engineers not to start relying on it with updates to the system if they have it available at all, so even having it means never purchase to me.

[@DirtPerfect]

Sorry love it

[@trader4239]

Sponsored by Hyundai

[@Insayshabull]

excavators are just another tool in your box ... dependability is how it's judged

[@DirtPerfect]

Yup

[@beozzie690]

What’s the price difference? That’s something you didn’t cover.

[@DirtPerfect]

Good ? For Tyler