Dirty Boxing Trick for Smaller, Weaker People Who Suck at Clinch Fighting

[@henrywinczner1768]

I like that all this trash fighting took place next to a dumpster. Makes it seem more authentic lol.

[@hard2hurt]

Thematic!

[@rockarollawmn]

@@hard2hurt A big thing not addressed is if the "victim" has enough hair to grab & tangle fingers in. It makes it harder to pull away not to mention acts as a tether- think "paddleball". Could you PLEASE do a video to address this- like with yer wife or her & another chick or even with the dude from yer vids that has the shaggy twists?

[@rottentothecory]

Man, there are sooo many moments where we can stop this video and have a whole separate lesson, breaking down what was just said. This has to be one of your best videos yet, Mike.

[@hard2hurt]

Damn I'll have to go back through and scavemge for video ideas

[@ChasenR]

"I give em one of these and hes starting to rethink his life" sounds like when i got slipped a capsule of ketamine. Spent three hours rethinking all my life choices.

[@isaacdoukaskomnenos8013]

Next vid: How to incorporate dirty tricks into your sparring

[@hard2hurt]

Somebody gets it...

[@oscallibur5597]

It’s not dirty if you take a shower first

[@MarcusArmstrong037]

It's also some of the previous videos.

[@timotejmares]

@@hard2hurt There is one technique I really wished to see pressure tested by someone who understands fighting - Eye gouching in a clinch: catching your opponenets face and stucking your thumbs in the eyes right next to the nose (where the tier gland is) and push him back. I know it's damm painfull, but I would like to see if it's reallistic in a fight. Could you please pressure test it like you did with the whip (slowly increasing power)?

[@andrewgiegerich5526]

@@timotejmares if you can eye gouge someone they can punch you in the face lol Unless you are 7 feet tall not good for self defense Maybe against your little brother If you eye gauge me I'm just gonna kick you in the balls to level the playing fiel

[@drutgat2]

That was one of the most useful self-defence videos/instructionals I have ever seen. So many useful tips - every time I had a question, you answered it in seconds. Many thanks.

[@snorni]

You should make a whole Bas Rutten techs episode, loved the impression :)

[@nopenope7700]

BONG BONG BING

[@grsimpson3957]

LIVER SHOT!

[@snorni]

@@grsimpson3957 never underestimate kick into groin !

[@duchi882]

You know its real when he makes sound effects on the attacks

[@rowanheywood5661]

This is okinawan karate bunkai. First scenario is a shuto uke. Second scenario where your head is low you could effectively utilise a Garden Barai to either floor him or open up a better position for attack. Karate is self defence

[@rowanheywood5661]

Even that palm strike to the face from when you were in the "bad inside position" was the initial "load up" for the shuto uke

[@BeReadyFighting]

Spine alignment is super key! Glad you hit that. Good stuff 🤙

[@nhlfan1001]

low key Mike accidentally broke down Roberto Duran's fighting style. he was the king of throwing punches in the clinch

[@matt19122]

Yo Jay, My receptionist just said that shirt looks "great on him." Good Vid Mike!

[@hard2hurt]

He is shrinking he will need a smaller size hahaha

[@0713mas]

Love the fundamental high % stuff. My coach use to call that "the collar pry!" All part of clinch fighting "Wall-N-maul series." In the Jits with hits series, we also used almost the same thing on the ground. Basic frame escape from the the bottom, or to pressure play/ bug the neck from the top.

[@OldManFrank]

*I was using ‘dirty tricks’ last night during sparring; we had to escape from side-control and get up, so, as I was getting super tired, I started to use these ‘dirty tricks’ to tire out my partner and to negate his offense.*

[@daxisperry7644]

In my Muay Thai class we were taught “this” as a way to break the MT clinch. We didn’t punch, but it was that same frame, then cinch that shoulder like you’re doing, and straighten the arm. VERY hard to keep the clinch.

[@thebobbytytesvarrietyhour4168]

The thought just occurred to me that if technique beat size every time, we would see more people fight outside their weight class.

[@magnumlifestyle6327]

Technique beats size when the person with size doesnt have much technique.

[@bombastikderteutone6858]

man most People who fight in some sort of organitation where "weightclasses" exist, the dudes usually all have some skill..? i dont really get your post If Uriah Faber in Feather weight would fight Cain Velasquez who is Heavyweight of Course size does matter. They both posses some skills..!

[@morganthem]

Some rule like "every 20lbs bigger = you need 1 more year training to beat them", might work but there's just no way to predict any outcomes with it. It can't account for like fifty things and variables that go into winning a random fight. That's why the first rule of self-defense is to de-escalate until you can't. Hopefully your training does negate their advantages, otherwise why train at all? If I train to fight only big people for instance, I might lose any time I can't be faster than the guy.

[@labbyshepherdpuppy5943]

Alex Hutchins Gracie vs Shamrock?

[@ChickenMaster7]

Technique does not beat size every time. Especially if both people know how to fight. And how you are going to convince the promotion or the fighters to fight a significantly bigger trained fighter which can be potentially life-threatening.

[@mguibord4728]

thanks for taking the time to share this info sir it has helped my personal skill development in boxing and mma

[@benji4608]

This is a very strong counter move, it works so well. I think part of it is you stop the other persons forward movement so effectively with the forearm to the throat. It really doesn’t take a lot of strength, even less when done alive.

[@rockarollawmn]

A big thing not addressed is if the "victim" has enough hair to grab & tangle fingers in. It makes it harder to pull away not to mention acts as a tether- think "paddleball".

[@Vachelll]

As a shorter guy, knee/kick to the groin and headbutt are my bread and butter

[@dannythorne7143]

I have had this conversation with many people. I practice self defense with friends from time to time and have attended self defense seminars. I wish I had more money to train more often but I can't so I do what I can.when it comes to size power and strength you better believe that it does make a difference. Its very important to learn effective techniques for both small and large people. When it comes to physical confrontations you have to be able pull off your techniques before the other person can regardless of your size.at the end of the day it pretty much comes down to your skill level training and experience.if you can try your best to stay out of fights and walk away if you can but if you are forced to defend yourself, you do what you have to and hopefully your level of training will be enough to protect yourself.

[@williambrookings722]

Great stuff! This reminds me a lot of Wing Chun kung fu that often gets a bad rep. The aim to break the opponents posture, attack weak areas like the neck and throw in explosive short range shots are all there. The problem often is many don't train WC as a dirty boxing style and stay at longer range posing like Bruce Lee or Donnie Yen!

[@angelmirchev8433]

Nice video. My coach has been focusing a bit more on clinching lately and i actually really love this kind of "trash" fighting. Mostly cuz i'm smaller than like 90% of the other dudes in the gym.

[@isaacdoukaskomnenos8013]

Hey Mike *Rule number 1* : When outside, if the teacher is bald they have to wear a fully zipped up waterproof jacket. *NOW GET BACK TO TRENING*

[@hard2hurt]

Basic and simple mooment

[@bullfrogboss8008]

We're just asking for another impersonation

[@SandaBoxing]

@@hard2hurt Your impressions of Dewey was eerily accurate. He moves really goofy looking, but no doubt he's high level.

[@deansander441]

I’ve gotten into your videos recently, it’s crazy how similar the karate I learned is to your dirty boxing

[@eljoemissiletoe3438]

I believe you make these cause you care about us weaker less skilled fighters...thank you.

[@hard2hurt]

More than you know.

[@techhelpwizardgenie3146]

I love that there are signs on the dumpster that say "do not walk, play, or be around." Or something to that degree. I'm not rewinding for that.

[@VicksWezaleff]

I like how REALISTIC demo is that your opp is actually bigger & taller! Thanks for the knowledge. Also purple nurple, headbutt and knee to the jewels are great against a collar tie too 😈

[@DPham1]

Loving your 'streetz'-focused, trash fighting, la cucaracha style videos. Keep up the great content!

[@MarcusArmstrong037]

This is actually the first technique in my curriculum. Well, after learning the basics and definitions. (1-6 boxing numbering, names of kicks, basics of stances.)

[@RynsmthSmth]

So no more "I would just goto the body" now its " I would just goto the "Bas Rutten""? Lmao.

[@justinpodur]

I like this a lot! I have learned so many fancy ways to break and reverse collar ties, but I really appreciate this "trash" way!

[@gerrybarone5434]

Nice video. This is by far my favorite head clinch counter.

[@hard2hurt]

Ah I see you are a man of taste

[@andrewrodgers2180]

Hey Mike I always learn something new when I watch your stuff. Great tricks and fundamentals that will hopefully give you some advantage in a street fight. Your techniques are similar to our only indigenous martial art up here in Canada, hockey fighting. Boing Boing and drop your gloves. 😃

[@henriquecarvalho880]

Cool, it feels like this is a very natural reaction to the colar tie What about the headbut, the heabut you teached seems a very good in the situation

[@uguntiitnugu628]

They do this often in lethwei fights. Check it out!

[@hard2hurt]

This is a actually a good way to stop Headbutts so it wouldn't surprise me that it is utilized on lethwei

[@ChrisfromGeorgia]

I had to delete my comment because I immediately commented about headbutting. Also, I was thinking about eye-gouging since his hands are right there. Just my 2 cents.

[@supportyourtroopsathletes6460]

Good video on breaking it down. I could see where your students benefit from you breaking down each step which makes it nice, good job.

[@julesfalcone]

1:00 He blocked that left fast with his right. Bravo.

[@pesticid100]

This forearm to the face as a defense against the collar tie, if you keep it and do a 90 degree outside pivot with your left foot or even a 180 degree it can really mess up his shoulder, as it is shoulder lock

[@perrinekld7451]

Here's the 2 major strikes that are effective when you're small : HEADBUTTS AND BALLKICKS (high soccerkick) 1) Your skull is at the level of your opponents chin : advantage for the small one. Moreover headbutts are perfect diring cliches and you don't wanna break your hand by throwing punches 2) no need to throw fancy headkiks when the tall dude in front of you have his pair of balls at perfect soccer kick position. 3) extra : large hands are more likely to break : let the tall opponent break his hand on your forehead when you can throw any shots that will land on his chin

[@tcup3946]

If you punch into the ribs with a pointed nuckle punch . When you showed forearm to throat, you can break ribs.. if you uppercut strong, you can hurt ribs

[@simoneriksson8329]

I feel like clinchfighting is a very important part of selfdefencetraining that is given far to little attention. Thanks for the video :)

[@bullfrogboss8008]

I feel like in the era of (somewhat deserved) hype for BJJ, standup grappling in general is being neglected

[@L2kneel]

This is why we control the arms first before going straight into a plum, Buakaw always says to be mindful of our opponents’ weapons when entering the clinch

[@philipbloch2410]

Thanks for the lesson. I'm going to use a bit the technique in a novel I'm writing. I will mention you in the acknowledgements.

[@jfurr9645]

It's only a matter time before Jay starts to overcome Mike.

[@erikpatricksson3348]

"You wanna buy some death sticks?" "You don't want to sell me death sticks" "I don't wanna sell you no death sticks" "you want to go home and rethink your life" "I wanna go home and rethink my life"

[@TexZenMaster]

It sometimes is just that easy to get out of a fight.

[@mickeybrown9052]

It's simple, but such a smart counter move you are showing. Thanks for the vid.

[@Tenn-pipes-powder-ponderance]

Thank you for your videos. I am NO fighter by any means but I enjoy your videos.

[@coachryanmartialarts435]

It's only trash if it doesnt work, this is better described as a gold technique! Super valuable. Just today clinch sparring with one of my main sparring partners and coach who weighs about 60lbs more than me, the cross face and walking my hips in to nullify his knees and make posture was my go to.

[@saymyname3097]

Question ? During the clinch. Why not reach to his face, with a open hand. Getting ,eyes, nose (were, we all the same) instead of trying to crank a bigger stronger man's neck. His reaction opens opportunities for you Thanks. Love your videos.

[@claesandersson5300]

Very interesting! I teach my student both the crossface and Russian arm tie. we also train duck under if the opponent has caught me in the clinch.

[@jcl271]

Not gunna lie ur videos are good

[@timotejmares]

Hi Mike, great video. Are there any icebreakers for people who are scared to connect? I was training in the gym and some girl wanted me to show her some basic self defense stuff, so I showed her some basic tricks how to keep distance. When it came to byceps control and mainly cross face, she was afraid to push me so she just leaned back. How do you deal this issue?

[@hard2hurt]

She was leaning back because she was uncomfortable, because you made her uncomfortable. The icebreaker to self defense training for people who are uncomfortable with contact is padwork. Unless you're asking for pickup lines lol in which case I am no expert but I would say just be yourself and stop touching strangers.

[@timotejmares]

@@hard2hurt Thank you for your answer. Now I realise I forgot how used I am to fighting. As I am thinking about it, she was ok with putting her palm on my face, but as I made a small step against her to show her, she can easily hold me back, she started to lean back instead of pushing my chin. I didn't realise untill now I made her uncomfortable just by trying to close the distance. For me it's completely natural to push my sparring partner back if he's getting too close.

[@imthejordenaught]

As someone with Scoliosis I can absolutely say yes, my spine is bend and so is my posture. Lol

[@monsterinyourcloset7573]

If it's a self defense situation that technique puts you in a perfect position to eye gouge the other guy, or pull a weapon with your right hand. You basically have the other guy's head immobilized. Even something improvised like a ball-point pen to the nose or eye will end a fight real quick.

[@KarateStanceConor]

“bUt mIkE mY pOstUrE iSnt brOkEn wHeN mY sPinE iS oUt oF aLigNmeNt!”

[@Punk_Philosopher]

That was loads of fun to watch and very informaitive/useful/DTE. The big block is a great straight guy! The gags were cool - bet some of the youngsters watching will be like WTF? w/ the phone gag.

[@Punk_Philosopher]

Big bloke I meant, not "block" tho he is kinda that as well

[@peterrussell6029]

Great vid Mike - love this stuff!

[@hard2hurt]

Thanks homie

[@tensae4725]

Hey Mike, could you please do a video on fighting off multiple opponents ? Thanks man.

[@RadicalLinguisticDescriptivism]

So you wanna see Mike's 100 meter with hurdles.... me too!!

[@tensae4725]

joetheagent Great minds think alike man.

[@tensae4725]

Miller Time Thanks brother, that’s quite helpful. Appreciate it.

[@OldBadger1]

Watching this I realize that Arnis H2H is Only trash fighting. I like it.

[@hard2hurt]

Definitely don't run.

[@Domitianvs]

Come for the thumbnail, stay for the Bas-impersonation. "BONG BONG"

[@mctransportation9831]

How awesome to have a big strong guy to help you train. Probably seems easy if you face a dude closer to your own size.

[@tyhollo3426]

Turning the head is a big part about systema , I rate this 9/10 because there's always a bigger fish. Nice job 👏👏👏👍👍👍

[@tyhollo3426]

By the way, only fight channel I'm subscribed to .

[@tyhollo3426]

That's a dumb statement . Lol

[@tyhollo3426]

Dirt Diver dumbbbb

[@clockmakerbr2470]

So my muay thai master is showing me trashy techniques. He showed this exact technique, and a variation of It. While you have one hand in the neck framing the opponent's clinch, you use the other hand crossing the one that's framing, and pull the opponent's head to the side, so you can knee the head or sweep.

[@petergriffin7121]

This is real fighting for the STREETZ

[@richcapo]

No, it’s not. This is ring fighting next to a dumpster. And it’s a good way to get killed in real life.

[@sitavegbusiness8573]

Yari yari Yara kick to the groin! " Everybody underestimate the kick to the groin" - BAS RUTTEN -

[@benlndr3269]

"I give him one of these, and he starts to rethink his life"

[@pranakhan]

How did you lose in your recent competition? I was looking forward to hearing you speak on the technical & psychological aspects of losing in this context

[@emgarcia2006]

That's karate that motion you're doing to break the clench come from this kata nihachi Shodan I love your channel bro

[@marktaylor1255]

Can you do a video of using clothing and the environment please I think the clothing is a good advantage especially hoodie to pull over head even if thats not possible it gives great leverage

[@jasonadams1632]

LOL! You are not a trash fighter! You're not out there beating up trash cans and dumpsters. (Ryan Hoover voice). Great video, as always. Good stuff.

[@Raiden4019]

Almost reminds me of some of the old-school Fairbairn stuff!

[@dalroache]

That flying knee towards end lol usssssh

[@Cryley]

More clinch breaking and ways to hold onto the clinch would he great :)

[@c10shawndude46]

Most street fights I’ve ever saw, everyone throws haymakers.

[@willcardenas1579]

Yeah however sometimes they're neccessary

[@stenduginski2306]

Yo Icy Mike! Quick question- I did tkd for 10 years, and recently Ive done Muay Thai for the last 2 years. Would Judo be a good choice to add some grappling and throwing knowledge? Cuz man, Ive got decent striking, but a guy charging me, throwing me, or taking me down sounds pretty scary cuz thats well out of my comfort zone.

[@antonbyebajraktaraj1349]

I would try jiu jitsu or wrestling. At a good bjj/ grappling gym you will also learn takedowns and some judo throws cause wrestling judo and bjj were designed to complete each other. So I think its better to start with BJJ cause you learn fighting from your back/having someones, the whole submission area while still learning how to fall and learn correctly and mixed with some basic judo amd wrestling techniques you have a complete base on ground fighting. You could also just work on takedown defense and submission defense as a muay thai guy who uses clinches a lot and use it to capitalize with your striking. And the great thing is you can train no gi or with gi to make it more realistic for self defense situations.

[@dontstopbelieving1]

I have been watching a ton of videos on this channel lately and practicing a lot of stuff I see on here for fitness and just to learn some decent form. It seems like in most videos though, the theme is "this skill will not work in a street fight". Can anyone point me into a video that covers what is best to do in a street fight scenario? I don't plan on getting in any but I live in Baltimore so you never know. But from watching videos on both this channel and many others the list of things that aren't effective in a fight are: boxing, wrestling, Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai, body shots, leg kicks, grappling of any kind except maybe a little bit of clinch work, and many other things I am surely forgetting. Any chance of getting a video on the very best skillset for a street fight or guiding me to it? I can't imagine that the wild haymakers and rapid fire strikes that people throw in street fights are the end all be all. Of course the best skill is avoidance, but there has to be a few things that work with reasonable efficiency. At least for self preservation if things do end up getting physical

[@hard2hurt]

Lol if you got that boxing, wrestling, jiu jitsu and muay thai are not effective out of all this, you are not paying attention.

[@mikeydo9567]

Great content, love your high percentage moves as I always want to train for the 8 foot 800 lb gorilla on PCP attacking me with the flu, etc. On a side note, how effective would motorboating be? ;)

[@baiieergoon6245]

Joe rogan is that you?

[@mikegilbert5851]

All you had to say is the universal rule of fighting : Control the head and the Ass will follow 98% of the time it works for if your standing ,in the clinch or on the ground .

[@vajrarezaalam1262]

Hey Mike can you do a video on how to close the distance and establish a clinch properly. I cant to seem find one that works on MMA. Cheers!

[@bombastikderteutone6858]

the Internet is literally full of that shit

[@danfriedman1164]

It is also a matter of size and strength. If you have both, you may worry less about being technical.

[@philipbarrick4149]

Thanks for your versatility and watch a show from protection weapons to fighting to trash the smaller guy which I am

[@CYBOPOD88]

No disrespect, but your first move against the collar grab would have garnered a headbutt. Anytime the heads are that close... first one in wins... if a big strong bully gets in your face. your best move is to backup with hands up in front of your face and firmly say "hold on there big fellow" keep...holding your palms up and out a little above eye level... palms up in front of you..a gesture of peacemaking.. (he thinks). if he keeps coming, keep backing away...wait for the right distance ... then quickly step forward and slam the closes palm upward into his nose area, in the same move gouge and rake your fingers down into his eyes before bring your hands back (fingers or right there anyway after the palm to the nose) and step back..then just as quick, when he reaches up to his face with pain, (an involuntary nerve reaction) knee him twice in the balls and one more in his bent over face...BAM BAM! That should do it.. that's garbage fighting... I've used it a few times, when I had to, as a relatively small bouncer in very badass bars. If you can make sense outta my verbal instructions... introduce it in your next video.. just tell'em "It's CYBOPOD SHIT like" lol...great video by the way...good stuff..

[@noahsark884]

I'm sure bringing your arm up to his neck is a bad idea since he can now knee you in the face if you are going to use the other one to attack. it's good of you want to only defend 3:00

[@jayank-tyagi]

I need this for a club but I can't talk about it

[@NASkeywest]

Best tactic? Spit beer in eyes, run to your car.

[@runningnoodles9989]

Hey man I don't know if you ever see read all of them. I used to do tai chi in self-defense now that I have 3 kids I don't do it very muchwe're at all but watching your videos help me keep some sort of skill intact with raising three kids and getting a dad bod I appreciate your videos and I love what you're doing

[@mountaingoattaichi]

Good stuff! One move I alwasy see from the bigger guy who pulls a clinch is the next thing they do is rip the person violently to the ground. I would love to see a counter from your partner ripping you to the ground.

[@ЦветанШиков]

Icy Mike can we get a video on how you started your gym.

[@johnboylan3832]

The point isn't that punches from the clinch don't hurt, it's that you are asking to be elbowed into oblivion with your hands that low and your face unprotected.

[@gerardoalas1945]

I can’t imagine a muay thaï khru listening to this!!!

[@amorfati4559]

This almost looks like a medieval style of wrestling by Fiore called Abrazare. Minus the strikes. At least the same type of mindset.

[@waynebattersby9461]

Does anyone have any DYI uppercut bags. I train alone and don’t have anyone to hold focus mitts

[@coryayers9419]

Finally a tailor made video for me

[@gigantycznejabko9362]

Just FYI: You can hold cellphones with just your head. Pretty nice skill to have!

[@stegmonjurvinweirdt1834]

Good stuff. I think you are not thinking dirty enough in second one where your head is down . . . I know everyone says "hit em in the nut!" all the time. Still that's what I would do. If I can see and it's available I will use it. My most favorite will always be The Flank Grab because, I can use it anytime, anywhere. If you have me in a hold and I just happen to get hold of some skin . . . Yes, you will let give me just enough space for me to escape. It helps to have a strong grip . . .

[@satrioarif1797]

dirty boxing? thigh kick. Not much commitment in the movement, relatively easy to put power in there. And most people would be surprised when their thigh goes limp in 30 sec. Got some problem on the street once, I surprised the guy with thigh kick and do the most appropriate thing to do, *I run*

[@serenacula3256]

Saw a fascinating takedown technique for when they try to clinch you like that from a muai thai guy - headbutt their sternum right between the nipples and push on that spot with your forehead, while also pulling their lower back into you. Fuckin' painful even when you're doing it light, and takes them down very quickly without putting you off balance. Never seen anything like it before, but it was very cool. It doesn't technically even need to be a headbutt, it just works better if it is.

[@janikauhanen5475]

Nice vid! You guys have sun already there!?!?!? Here its basically raining some grey s*it all day long and its dark as in..well..basically its nighttime 24/7! Have to admit, I've taken this and that from your videos to my own training. Like just the small things, movement basics and postures. I really like your way of teaching, you're not taking a role in front of the camera (at least it feels like you're not :D ) and you have a good matter of self-critic in every video! And, you have to do a Bas Rutten impersonation!

[@brokentaxman]

Find someone who looks at you like this guy looks at Mike.

[@scout3058]

Good shit.

[@terrellfillmore8534]

I thought you were going for the groin. Why not?

[@kevinheller5414]

Honestly, I see a lot of opportunities for nutshots. Not as a Master Wong finisher, but as a distraction. Also: Trash Panda sounds cooler than Kung Fu Panda