Dirty Canyon Reveals all in Full Strip Exposé Service

[@lenolenoleno]

Great teardown. Bike is pretty clapped + needed some proper TLC. Would be great to have a follow up vid of the finished product and if possible, the customers impression after their first ride on the refreshed rig. Always great to see the "oh my god, why didn't I do this wayyyy sooner?!" moments.

[@Mapdec]

I will ask.

[@peterjanovcik9973]

All this is about 30 years newer than my most modern stuff I ride, still a very enjoyable video! Good stuff

[@Mapdec]

Glad you enjoyed it Peter.

[@binitbob]

Thanks for that very interesting to see that bikes are so well looked after and I believe the owner will be more than happy to see the results and how much effort you put into their bike when it is with you.

[@Mapdec]

Thank you.

[@andrewmcalister3462]

Great to see a teardown like that.

[@philr696]

It's nice when you get the go ahead to do all these things on this type of service. And great when you get feedback that it feels better than new once it's done.

[@Mapdec]

It’s why we do it.

[@Paddystyx]

Great video. It’s nice to get an insight to another person’s profession. Cheers.

[@Mapdec]

Thanks for watching Kevin.

[@Tradescant58]

Very humbling to see such depth of knowledge. Makes me realise how little I know beyond the basics.

[@Mapdec]

Thanks Gary

[@honestmcgyver]

I wish you were in Yorkshire. I’ve been to several shops for work on my bikes over gear in East Yorks and Leeds and poor quality work sadly. Might have to drive over to you if I can’t find a decent workshop!

[@GNX157]

Phil Woods hydrophobic grease. Good stuff. Use instead of lithium grease.

[@Marshgraham]

It’s great to see that you have 90% of the suspension service kits at hand. My local bike shop has minimal items in stock, even though they are a big brand representative and everything is ‘a week’ if you lucky to get sorted.

[@Mapdec]

It's what we do!

[@Llrekrab]

I was hoping for an instructional video on removing and instalation of the frame bearings. do I need to removing the Shapeshifter whe I remove the Shock? cheers

[@Mapdec]

You will find all of that on the Canyon website.

[@JamesSocialCycling]

Good vid, be good to see the fork brought back to life😊👍

[@Mapdec]

Thanks James.

[@monetaryjack1705]

Looks like one of the outdoor instructors bikes where I work, they only know how to thrash them to bits despite some even having Velotech Silver....seen chains knocking on 2% wear with 4 quick links in them now!

[@Mapdec]

Animals

[@monetaryjack1705]

@@Mapdec 😂😂😂

[@bennyheng662]

that white grease seems like what i saw in my spectral in it's 1st year .

[@stevebatt9643]

Do you know how many miles or hours the bike has done? And how hard it’s been ridden. Would be nice to connect the level of wear with the work it’s done.

[@Mapdec]

Not exactly. Over 2 years of Lake District abuse.

[@derosa67]

I'd be surprised if the bike has traveled more than 2000km total

[@pablocarbajo5545]

Great video as always! How long did it take to complete the service?

[@Mapdec]

We will need to wait for some parts, but this will be an 8 hour job,

[@sham2613]

Great video, love to see what ye do over there. I have the same problem with the canyon headset bearings not lasting, any good recommendation on a better bearing manufacturer. Understandable the size of the ball bearings , as you mentioned, don’t help.

[@Mapdec]

Sadly, none at all. Fake Acros ones are worse than the real ones.

[@Paganizondaf650]

Good lord, that sounds like a hefty service bill and certainly a lot of stuff I wouldn’t trust my self with doing. Good thing I stick with road bikes and a dirt jump bike

[@Mapdec]

That is an interesting bike combo. love it.

[@_Just_Some1]

Loving these videos. What's the grease you all suggest? I bought some Zefal Pro II but it does say on the package that it is a lithium based grease, after watching this I am now worried using it (haven't used it yet)

[@Mapdec]

I think I need to do a vid on this.

[@_Just_Some1]

@@Mapdec ooh that would be too! I’m always confused which grease to use and where! There are so many kinds, then there red grease for rubbers, etc. then on screws, is it grease or loctite! Haha. would love a video on this topic.

[@polskaa2012]

Jan man bei dem Strive AL 6.0 (2017) die Kettenstrebe ohne viel Aufwand demontieren und wieder montieren ohne die Kurbel entfernen zu müssen? Ich würde gerne die Lager unten überprüfen, habe aber nie die Kurbel entfernt und das Spiel der Kurbel eingestellt. Oder muss man da kein Spiel einstellen? Ich habe ein wenig Erfahrung als anfänglicher Hobbyschrauben. Thank you for great content!

[@Mapdec]

You can’t access main pivot without removing cranks.

[@chucktalks63]

Question for you, why do you remove the components from the handlebars, ie the brake levers/shifters/dropper lever? If a customer had paid for a professional fit from us and then we moved everything we would not have a happy person on our hands. Was just wondering, cheers!

[@Mapdec]

To inspect the carbon bars, to make sure everything is cleaned properly, easier to work with. There are no fit concerns here really. There are significant witness marks to put everything back as it was.

[@chucktalks63]

@@Mapdec Gotcha, was just really curious. I see you take the seat off the seatpost as well. Don't think I have ever done that in all my years of working as a mechanic, and probably never will. People are too precious about their fits/angles.

[@Mapdec]

How else would you service the Fox Dropper? You need access to the valve at the top.

[@chucktalks63]

@@Mapdec True true! Didn't realize you were servicing it in this video!

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

Did the owner use a jet wash to clean their bike considerign the state of the bearings?

[@Mapdec]

Not that they have admitted too. This is pretty normal for round here really.

[@gavinratcliff9352]

Great video once again. What's the name of the tool you use to check disc wear?

[@Mapdec]

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[@micktheshaggy3977]

@Mapdec I have RockShox 35 Gold fork that is still sticky after lower leg service, but the air spring and damper rods are smooth, so it looks like there is some issue with the lower leg bushings. I've found that other people also had similar issues with this fork and some even say that this can be caused by poor tolerances or faulty bushing installation from the factory. Did you have a chance to see that, too? Are the bushings replaceable in this model and if yes, what would be the estimated cost of that? Is replacing the lower legs with Pike / Revelation (also 35 mm) which should have better bushings a viable solution?

[@Mapdec]

Yes, those are all possibilities. Sometimes just resetting the bushings will help.

[@DoNuT_1985]

I will never ever complain about road bike service costs, one of the benefits of not having a suspension to service.

[@Mapdec]

We’re you adding up all those bearings as you watched 😳

[@georgeforeman89]

Man that bike needs some serious work. Is this how most mountain bikes come in?

[@Mapdec]

Yeah this is pretty normal. It’s a good one actually. Drive train and hubs are still good.

[@mrwhiteshorts]

Hello, What assembly grease would you use for carbon frames and parts? Ive finally finished the finish line pot ive had for years... Ive got plenty gripper paste, just not building grease. thanks.

[@Mapdec]

Currently using Juice Lubes Waterproof grease, there are lots of good ones though. Depends on use really.

[@mrwhiteshorts]

@@Mapdec Thanks man, appreciate that. Yeah i just have the weldtite TF2 stuff for the everyday bikes, but, as knowledge on carbon parts increases, i thought id ask what everyone else uses for, more special items in the workshop including building carbon framed bikes from scratch :) cheers

[@feedbackzaloop]

Pretty filthy indeed! Pretty and filthy... I assume you have to give the old shapeshifter to the customer back so that it will be forever forgotten in the attic. Or could you kindly ask to keep and try to rebuild it during your spare time? About the fork, it looks rather that you released the pressure too quickly and negative chamber did not have enough time to equalize with the atmosphere. It's not a scratch there but a dedicaded bypass port. But knowing FOX, there must be scratches nevertheless. Needless to say you can't just take out the circlip before you decompress the negative chamber, but still gonna say it.

[@Mapdec]

I said in the vid. There was pressure in the lowers. A lot. Customer has just kept adding more air.

[@feedbackzaloop]

@@Mapdec pressure in the lowers is a separate problem to suck down you presented at the table and is rather due to failing seals. One often overlooked is in the bottom cap around the push rod.

[@Mapdec]

Yes

[@tatumboy]

What general grease would you recommend? Thanks

[@Mapdec]

There are lots of good ones. We are currently using Juice Lubes Waterproof Bearing Grease for most jobs. We use a lot of different types though depending on application.

[@ozgurinsan]

how much does this service costs?

[@Mapdec]

This is a capped labour rate of £250

[@MAGAmaniac1000]

Crazy that someone was able to enjoy riding this bike when it looked like it was completely trashed and unsafe to ride.

[@Mapdec]

It was defo time for a service.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

So everything new on the old frame 😂😂😂😂 Maybe cheaper for customer to go on a cycle maintenance course 😏😂

[@Mapdec]

Unlikely. The cost of the tools would be more than a new frame and no cycle maintenance course in the UK is going to teach you suspension service to that level.

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

@@Mapdec at least start somewhere. Do a bit of maintenance by learning and get a few tools, try some more maintenance by learning and get the tools for that and repeat over period of time as knowledge growls and range of tools. This is a good solution instead of potentially allowing a persons bike to essentially fall apart and when to you take it too a bike shop it needs a full rebuild and service with a huge bill. This is what I’ve done and I’m progressing onto wheel building. I can strip and reassemble hubs and replace bearings with no issue now, but actual building wheels is the next challenge I will be trying. Obviously these skills and knowledge is invaluable when out on a ride when you have to fault find and repair when no one else is around to help you. 👍🙂🙂

[@arcoulant87]

How not to look after your MTB, they need to be taken behind the bike shed and given a good talking too . Failing that a bloody fat bill might do it.

[@Mapdec]

Easy Stephen.

[@nickdowdell2441]

That's a don't try this at home video.

[@jamble7k]

acros headsets are terrible

[@531c]

Stick to hardtail