8 interviews with the best brands at Rouleur Live 2024

[@rickybarker4023]

Just blew gcn’s vids out of the water. Great content,

[@Mapdec]

Wow. Thanks. 🙏

[@endebtedone]

the Enduro guy is amazing at explaining complex technical things so that EVERYONE can understand. being able to articulate technical complex things in a "dumbed down manner" is a skill especially being able to convey that message so that people do not feel dumb or put down.

[@lionelthompson8008]

Very good and intelligent interaction with the various manufacturers. Well done.

[@Mapdec]

🙏

[@AlexF-g9p]

Nice! Tyre clearance is hot topic these days both for road and gravel. Can t wait to see the 40mm Pirelli…

[@PeakTorque]

About the REAP, im not sure i believe the claims of comfort…even if a very compliant layup or low modulus fibre was used in the seat tube, its the shape stiffness (second moment of area) of that super deep ISP that has my back wincing in fear. Tubes shapes make so much more of a difference than tweaks in materials (we are talking multiple Xs) And on UK roads from a UK brand. I would love to be proven wrong!

[@Mapdec]

I'll let you know when the test bike is here...

[@Cycle.every.day.]

Getting bashed around never looked so cool though.

[@valiantabello]

​@@Cycle.every.day.lol

[@rcg9573]

I don't believe the claims of Reap or Storck. But that's just me. 🙂

[@krisbowditch827]

Knob

[@JohnMayo-n6e]

Thank you for the video, I really enjoy all of your content and appreciate the effort that goes into them.

[@johnkyle-kl6vk]

I've watched 4 reviews of Rouleur Live and yours is by far the best! Well done!

[@Mapdec]

Thank you. 🙏

[@chrisbenten9971]

All cool stuff but the paint job on that Reap bike is out-of-this-world cool!

[@maxsievers8251]

The maximum size for road tyres with mudguards and a road crank is 42 mm. I have this size on 650B wheels on my road bikes. Without mudguards you can go up to 48 mm or even a bit more than 50 mm.

[@2wheelsrbest327]

Thanks great video. Seeing it was Rouleur I knew I wasn't going to be able to afford anything featured but what I saw was some great equipment and a great chat about each of them. If I ever have the luck to win the major Lottery prize I shall be revisiting this video. If its not one of those bikes it will definitely be the Look frame with those wheels.

[@Mapdec]

It’s a fun show to visit. The talks are good too.

[@531c]

Bike heaven. Thanks for giving us a glimpse into the world of innovation

[@andrewallan5090]

Good interviews dude, it was a great show. Meeting Sean Kelly was my personal highlight... very modest for such a legend of the sport

[@rakulex]

very in depth information, thanks for your work!

[@rejean2744]

Paul, I'm watching this video at 9pm, it's dark and it's 5degrees C . but, I want to go for a ride because you have me amped to ride bikes. Great Video...WOW!....You catch some of these "sales people " being sales people and they flinch, failing at first to realize that they are talking to a Pro.. Then they relax when they start to understand, you won't embarrass them. Good job.

[@Mapdec]

Thank you. Most of these folk were CEO or head of marketing. The Pirelli engineer was there and we spoke but he was camera shy. Same with Scope.

[@rejean2744]

@@Mapdec Yes, I get that. Some seemed to know of your channel others not so much. They all seemed to relax as they warmed to your professionalism....Some really cool stuff in the video to ponder that I wasn't familiar with, Reap, Scope, Storck, etc. Look, I already know and love.

[@sccxvelo]

Been using 28-30mm tires over 10 years a cyclocrosser. Close to same width as in race but road friendly for training. Any more width to road tires or rims and will require major changes to frames to make room for no matter what wheel/tire setup. Then frames are just gravel bikes, but with road race geo. Can imagine it will be akward handling and riding bike.

[@rcg9573]

agreed. As road tires have gotten bigger and bigger the road frameset HT angles that can accommodate such tires have slackened, the overall wheelbases have gotten significantly longer and the chainstay lengths have gotten longer. No one is going to convince me such a frameset bike being run with some boat anchor 35's or 38's or 40's with a trail fig in the mid 60's or even higher is handling or feeling anything remotely like a classic road bike frameset running 28's or even 30's. No chance! It's like trying to claim a Toyota Avalon handles like a 911 turbo. No it doesn't, and even if you enlarged the engine significantly it still doesn't. 🙂

[@paulaus]

Im actually keen on these 40mm slicks. Firstly they look sick and secondly for commuting they would be ideal for maintaining your gearing especially on a 1X gravel setup.

[@Mapdec]

Yes, I can see these being popular for a variety of riders.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

I’m running GP5000 AS TR in 700x35. Love it. Fast rolling and you can stay on the bike all day.

[@Caedo01]

This is the dream. Be rich enough and make your own bikes

[@Adam_Crebo]

Saw you in passing in the cafe area on Friday, so thought best not to disturb your chat! Enjoy your work as always. 👍🏼

[@Mapdec]

It’s always nice to chat to viewers. Next time come and say hi.

[@trevekneebone369]

Harrison from Princeton talks a lot of sense 👌 Excellent video overall. Many thanks for sharing 👍

[@Mapdec]

yes, I really enjoyed our chat. No hype, just listening and acting

[@1rickqwert]

Agreed, I have a set of Peak 4550 rim wheels and was so impressed I ordered a set of disc 4550's. No bs just a great company to deal with.

[@Mapdec]

@ nice to hear.

[@krisbowditch827]

👍

[@paulclark9968]

I went down to the Rouleur Show yesterday ( Saturday morning) with the idea of looking for a new bike, Plenty to see,loads of Gravel bikes , Big Pinarello stand , Hunt, DT Swiss wheels , etc etc but didn't find what i was looking for , thought the show was a little flat, but still had nice time.

[@Mapdec]

It is a real shame that Rouleur is letting the big brands dominate the space. The show used to be a lot of stands with just 1-3 bikes.

[@AndrewBroadbent-dr8wb]

Really like the design features on the Storck, must be getting close to a good steel frame for comfort. Thank you.

[@philipbickerstaff7064]

The REAP looks awesome. Lovely looking great paint job. Sounds like it rides really well

[@Mapdec]

I’ll let you know when it’s here Phil 😉

[@rcg9573]

Really liked the section on Scope wheels also. Hope they get a pair to you for testing and a review.

[@Mapdec]

Looks like we have something planned for February 2025.

[@All3cannons]

Brilliant content 👍

[@Mapdec]

Thank you.

[@davemellor4697]

I have a STORCK AERFAST 4 SRAM AXS in green,it really is a weapon and sooooo fast when rolling!

[@Mapdec]

nice!

[@markj.a351]

Had my eye on a Storck for a while

[@trevekneebone369]

@@markj.a351 They were the darlings of the British cycling press 20 years ago, then just seemed to disappear

[@JFomo]

If Pirelli wants to stand out they should make all their decals in yellow instead of silver.

[@Mapdec]

im down with that

[@Raymond-Farts]

Yeah, that Yellow would really look good on my bike, Dark Midnight Blue Pearl.

[@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele]

Yellow for medium, red for soft, white for hard

[@RSGSulldorfAltona-West]

Nice REAP "Vulcan". In pink its pure BikePorn

[@essexhertsmtb]

Great vid - love the bearing insight

[@Mapdec]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Daniel-bv2wc]

Pirelli making great progress.

[@astonmartinastonmart]

Excellent video

[@Mapdec]

Thank you very much!

[@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well]

*spoiler* No “discbrakefacingtool” action in this video.

[@Mapdec]

😂

[@DeanPattrick]

This is a great comment 😂😂😂

[@jameseastwood402]

Good stuff, thanks. Was really hoping for a Seka Spear one though!

[@Mapdec]

They were camera shy. I did ask.

[@jameseastwood402]

@Mapdec what did you think of them?

[@Mapdec]

@ I can’t say I looked close enough to voice an opinion really.

[@sabamacx]

It would tickle me plenty if there was a 1:1 mapping between Pirelli motorcycle tyres and Pirelli bicycle tyres, indeed, if they were the "same" but at different sizes, e.g. Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa for racing, Pirelli Diablo Rosso for performance, Pirelli Angel for all-round dry/wet and touring.

[@Mapdec]

Oh. I like this thinking. Much better than Race TLR RS

[@sabamacx]

@@Mapdec The tread pattern is already duplicated!

[@AlistairMartin99]

Pzero for slightly vague handling bordering on mildly terrifying in the wet

[@MrJhockley]

I went and realised most of the stands cater for the 1%

[@Mapdec]

Yes. It’s about the only show you will see a Bastion that isn’t a yacht show.

[@peterharrington8709]

I think it'd be worth Pirelli et all giving more time and marketing to performance non-tubeless tyres to go with their tpu tubes. Still not convinced that road tubeless

[@Mapdec]

Umm. I sort of with you. Compared to conventional tube I like your point. Compared to TPU tubes… I’d take tubeless any day. Those things are wafer thin and the valves break all the time.

[@EmmanuelNataf]

you'd say

[@peterharrington8709]

@@Mapdec some of the Ride Now ones definitely had valve / stem problems but I think they've sorted that out now. Some tpus are manufactured in thicker gauge too. Then there's Pirelli's own brand one... which, from a sample of just one, has given me two summers of faultless service. Tyre looks pretty roughed up but tube no probs so far.

[@peterharrington8709]

@EmmanuelNataf guess it depends on the combination of sealant, tyre and potentially plugs. My experience was the > 45 psi then valve seals would start to leak and plugs would get blown back out of tyre cuts. Pin point holes were better but difficult to decide whether to plug or not. Cold and wet days also seem to cause problems with sealant. Many interesting conundrums, but I just felt that for my road bike it wasn't quite worth the hassle of further experiment.

[@LyndonNLeeming22]

I've got to say, going to tpu tubes from butyl on my p zero race classics has been a real success. The lightness and rolling resistance differences are night and day. So convenient to carry spares too with no tubeless mess to deal with

[@diggoryhardy5940]

40mm road slicks? Interesting to hear about Pirelli tyres and the move towards all-in-Italy manufacturing.

[@klarheitpictures]

Somehow it’s refreshing to hear the Storck guy tell it how it is 😅

[@Mapdec]

Markus was awesome. He was just all energy and passion

[@invisiblescout6335]

Well he didnt say it how it is cause he lied about the aerfast being the fastest tested bike and the weight he quoted is misleading cause tour weighted their frame at over 1000g

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

​@@MapdecThese bicycle companies that tell you that their frame composite is secret . This can be uncovered by a pathologist or industrial chemist , Iike my late friend , Alan Kennedy . He uncovered a few bicycle manufacturing "secrets" for me .He was RIGHT .

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

​@@invisiblescout6335 He needs to be reprimanded over this !

[@bernieraverty4319]

Great video….thanks for sharing! Did the Storck fit in your car?

[@Mapdec]

Thank you.

[@Meow-In-Trouble-Now]

Love the vid and tech, but wow the prices, and I thought my mtb's at 7 to 8k were expensive

[@alexandrevasconcelos4593]

Great video

[@Mapdec]

Thank you

[@Andy_ATB]

In motorsport Pirelli benefit from single tyre supplier deals; that's not going to happen in pro cycling.

[@davistaishi]

you could definitely make 8 separate videos!

[@Mapdec]

I did consider it. Maybe next year

[@davistaishi]

@@Mapdec great! like your content

[@ozgurinsan]

Everyone is trying squeeze the snake oil.

[@Mapdec]

I get the sentiment, but I think it’s a bit disingenuous here. This show is all about the niche, the top end, the fine details etc. The actual tangible benefits get pretty small or maybe insignificant. It’s perhaps more prestige and innovation over cost effective design.

[@fishtail123]

Anyone else notice Mike Ehrmantraut from Breaking Bad at 18:03... I wonder what Jessie was selling?

[@infocuslearning]

Surprisingly interesting

[@Mapdec]

errr. thanks

[@infocuslearning]

@@Mapdec What I mean is that interviews with suppliers at shows are often just a case of the supplier saying things like "our wheels have unique go-faster doobreewhatsits" but your conversations were more meaningful and interesting. The headset bearing one, in particular. I hadn't thought about the elastic nature of stainless steel balls in this context.

[@BikeLife154]

Pirelli please make a lighter tan wall tyre than the dull brown that you have at the moment. Love your gravel tyres but the classic is dull and dark. Give people another option of lighter side walls and you will sell even more. I give you that for free!

[@Mapdec]

totally agree with this

[@rafaeldegiacomoaraujo8778]

They use nylon, not cotton. Therefore they will struggle to get the looks from vittoria.

[@ExtraUKtv]

Check out the P Zero Race TLR Retro, its just that, a lighter colour.

[@BikeLife154]

@ I meant primarily gravel tyres. What you are talking about are road tyres

[@ariffau]

What happened to Wyndy Milla? They used to make bespoke carbon bikes in The UK, correct?

[@madplanet3351]

Reap bike looks nice but.... I hate the one piece shot through seat tube/ seatpost. Bike box nightmare in several ways.

[@Mapdec]

yes. it would be so hard to travel with

[@marksharrock6858]

They make it with regular seat post option as well

[@B.r.o.t.h.e.r.2]

It was fascinating

[@cityslacker6221]

hexis needs to integrate with Zwift. Seems like a huge missed opportunity.

[@Mapdec]

Would that be different to Zwift to Strava to Hexis?

[@cityslacker6221]

@@Mapdec didn’t even think about that 🫣, as I have never used Strava. I just heard Training Peaks and didn’t see anything else in their website.

[@DeanPattrick]

Would really (REALLY) want Pirelli tyres on my Giant Propel (2021), however they are still not on the approved list 😬🇫🇮

[@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele]

Hookless rims are a scam...

[@DeanPattrick]

@@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele ok great comment there buddy....

[@rcg9573]

@@DeanPattrick well, he did tell it like it is. Their main benefit is to the rim manufacturer to cut manufacturing costs. 🙂

[@paulelsey2486]

I'm running cinturato m 700x42 and I've never known a tyre shed mud literally like they're Teflon

[@jrmhng]

I felt the worst interviewee was Princeton. Context is important, I understand some riders are paid a bonus if they win with a blacked out set of their wheels. So there is an incentive for them to ride Princeton wheels. Two other things. First, pro cyclists are famously set in their ways. So him saying that they prefer 28s to me means that they prefer wider tires to the extent that they arent too far off say, the 23s and 25s they used to ride a few years ago, not that its necessarily optimal. Second, pro riders are doing road races at average speeds of 45+. So yes maybe that means not going too wide has a potential aero advantage. How many of us are constantly doing that for over 150kms on our weekly club rides? I also assume roads for races are generally good condition and/or are given a bit of maintenance prior to the race. You couldn't say the same for a lot of riders and the courses they ride on. The whole interview is the equivalent of telling someone living in the tropics that they need to wear more because thats what the Alaskans who have been paid wear his product prefer.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

I felt that your post was the worst in the comments section.

[@rcg9573]

Or it could be that the Princeton guy is spot on and the mania to ride larger and larger tires on the road to the point you are almost riding the equivalent of an XC MTB wheelset and tire set up is not only ridiculous, but also slower. Yes, many pros are set in their ways, but if bigger and bigger tires were actually faster you can be assured that guys fighting to keep a contract or get a new contract next year (the vast majority of them) would absolutely be riding 32's or 35's or 38's etc... regularly if they were actually faster. There's a reason why they are not, and it isn't because they are stuck in their ways. It's because those set ups are in fact A LOT slower in most road racing situations and yes, even for the average Joe Blow cyclist that cruises along at 18 mph on the flats those larger wheel set ups are not as fast as running a 28/30 set up. Sorry, but they are not, not even remotely close.

[@Mapdec]

Umm. I see pro riders as being very receptive to anything that makes them faster, no matter how ridiculous it might look. I think here Harrison is saying the same as you. Racers are different to riders. Their road wheel is wide, but their race wheel is still ‘relatively’ narrow.

[@peterthomas8053]

What are you doing there, you've been 'banned' by Shimano.🤪😉😂 Great video btw.👍

[@Mapdec]

Luckily Shimano were nowhere to be seen. It’s a Campagnolo kind of show.

[@peterthomas8053]

👍​@@Mapdec

[@JoolsBurke]

No Shimano stand?

[@Mapdec]

No. The campy and sram stand was busy though. To be fair this is a bit top end for Shimano. It’s defo a campy kind of vibe.

[@rcg9573]

Would have expected more from LOOK than a guy spray painting some of their current models. Surprised they have come out with new gen e-gravel bikes, but no new regular gravel bikes or all-road bikes. Gotta agree with the Princeton Carbonworks guy. The quest for larger and larger road tires and massive internal wheelset rim widths has gotten out of control. Soon you'll see guys riding the equivalent of a drop bar MTB on the road for "comfort". LOL

[@Mapdec]

Their whole road range is pretty fresh now, I strongly suspect some big announcements in gravel next. It would have been nice to see the track bike they built for the olympics though.

[@rcg9573]

@@Mapdec Agree. Their gravel range seems pretty stale. Hope we see something soon that takes it to the next level. 🙂

[@TroggyPK]

"i can count on one hand how many we've replaced" im sorry but i'm flat out calling absolute bullshit on that one, we fit enduro headsets at the workshop where i work at and just this year we've had warranty replacements on atleast more than 20.... so lets not just lie for marketing's sake.

[@Mapdec]

Oh. Interesting 🧐

[@willball12]

Dan Bigham photobomb at 16:14

[@Shadowboost]

Amazing, not a single brand that i care about

[@Mapdec]

There are a lot of brands.

[@dlj1285]

Oh, what a terrible thing.

[@Ballantin]

Regarding REAP, I believe they have a lot of claims and some of them are clearly not all that true. For example being the only manufacturer of performance bikes in the UK. What about brands like ORRO?

[@Mapdec]

Nothing British about Orro except the paint job. There are a few that chance it on the rule that 50% of the value needs to be added in country to call it British. So the paint job is worth more than the frame. Search for Orro and Dolan on our channel.

[@nomadcarpenter8549]

"Boring" the guy is right there 😅

[@matthewlewis2072]

The Look guy is the most French person ever 😅

[@gaspode505]

So expensive, would have to keep in my bedroom 😂

[@Mapdec]

locked up to the bed.

[@petersouthernboy6327]

I sweat all over the front of my bike. I'm going SS in the headset this Winter.

[@beaneater]

That carbon finish around the stem @3:23 is not looking good at all

[@Mapdec]

I’ll take a closer look in the review.

[@Raymond-Farts]

All I heard from that guy at Reap Bikes was a load of BS. I've been riding bikes for over four decades and I have yet to ride a road bike, regardless of the frame material, that has made me go "Wow!". Bicycles ride like bicycles. Some are a bit softer and some chatter they are so stiff, but at the end of the day unless it has suspension it's not really going to make that big a difference, in fact the main differences are from the tires. Then that guy from STORCK had a even bigger line of BS. $30,000 of development, doesn't that just mean that this is the amount they had to pay their employed help? Gawd, what these companies will say to fool a sucker to get top dollar.

[@Mapdec]

I guess you haven’t ridden a Time or a 3T or a Storck. Otherwise I would agree.

[@Raymond-Farts]

@@Mapdec I edited that comment to add more after I watched further. The guy from STORCK was really pulling your leg. 🤣These pitches and claims never amaze me, they just get me upset. Who really wants this stuff. I think I keep hearing people say they want prices to come down.

[@Mapdec]

@@Raymond-Farts as it turns out, quite a lot of riders. Cheaper bikes is a different video and a different show. This show is crazy top end. The Trek and Canyon stand was probably the quietest. Everyone was there for the exotic and unique stuff.

[@Raymond-Farts]

@@Mapdec Oh! My bad then. Did not know it was that kind of show. I liked the Pirelli interview the best. Good to see Continental are facing some legit competition. I've used quit a few Pirelli tires in different sizes and models over the last 5 years. I like them better than the GP4000 tires, never tried the GP5000, most likely never will. Thanks for the content. Pretty darn good as usual.

[@Bro-dk7rd]

Storck Bikes Idstein Germany😊

[@tomadevil1]

Where is Time? :(

[@bongobob7079]

That's relative

[@rcg9573]

@@bongobob7079 haha, good one!

[@tomadevil1]

@@bongobob7079 hahaha

[@pierrex3226]

The princeton segment... It's 100pc a brand for dentists, 1st of all. "Win races". Lol. Second, I think there's ONE team in the TDF this year that was still on 25mm, I think a french team, the one with the smallest budget probably. Pogi has been on 30C on ultra wide enve rims and given the money they have, you can rest assured they've optimised everything on that bike (the frame is slow but UAE owns colnago, so colnago it is). The question in pro teams is how wide your 28C measures on wide rims. And even if comparing the track and the road makes no sense, pressure on track bikes has indeed been going down, just ask Bingham. As a world champion because of his equipment choices, I think he's more qualified than the sales rep of dentistry wheel Inc on the topic of speed.

[@1rickqwert]

Look at their record with track results.... speaks for itself

[@matthewlewis2072]

Guess who's scared of going to the dentist 😆

[@abhattal]

Just watched the track world champs on iPlayer, guess which brand of wheels Dan Bigham was riding.

[@rcg9573]

Pogi could have won riding a tricycle.

[@AlistairMartin99]

Whats slow about a V4RS frame apart from what some journalists decided ro make up last year?

[@matthewlewis2072]

Pirelli CHIN-turato, not "Sin"

[@duttyvegan]

The show was not a sell out show, like these channels would like you to think it was, the bike sales are down and more and more bike shops will go under if the prices of bikes and parts don’t come down, people can’t afford to buy houses 😂 and have roof over there head, let alone buy a bike at today prices.

[@Mapdec]

I don’t know about sell out, but is was packed. The auditorium was crammed. It’s not a selling show really so who knows, but passion and enthusiasm was clear. People love riding bikes. This show has always been very top end. Everything is expensive now. A pint of 0% beer at the pub opposite was £7. 😮

[@rcg9573]

@@Mapdec 0% beer is the ultimate in marketing. That is like no fat milk. If it has no fat in it is it really milk? LOL

[@carl90210]

Take Hambini along with you next time 😂

[@Mapdec]

I don’t think he is very welcome these days. You have to strike a balance if you want brands to speak, otherwise doors close.

[@Alex-md6bu]

First guy lost me when he said stiff and compliment, dude is full of bs

[@Mapdec]

I guess we shall see soon enough.

[@TheStingrae]

I😮.

[@kidShibuya]

Good thing the cameraman kept a good 2 feet of screen space above the head of the first guy being interviewed, otherwise we might have seen the bike they were talking about.

[@Mapdec]

It’s almost impossible to film. We did the best given the space and noise. More info coming. Reap are now really keen to send us the actual bike for a full depth review.

[@DDai-qd8uk]

Lol the princeton guy was so full of sh!t. He really demonstrated the difference between a top manufacturer like enve or reserve and a bunch of jokers like princeton. Loved the rest, though.

[@Mapdec]

Explain please?

[@EmmanuelNataf]

@@Mapdec I think he means he's a salesperson and clearly not an engineer.

[@matthewlewis2072]

​@@EmmanuelNataf so what? I know lots of engineers. Many of them struggle to communicate in s non-technical manner.

[@rcg9573]

ENVE went to hookless rims specifically to save manufacturing costs, increase their profit margins on those items and nothing else! Then they laughably marketed it as an innovation/improvement for road and gravel bikes. LMAO Then they created three outsourced stock bikes fabbed in mainland China, the Fray, the MOG and the Melee and still charge an obscene price for a stock cookie cutter mainland China fabbed carbon frameset. Talk about being full of it and a collection of marketing based jokers. ENVE is the very definition of both. 🙂

[@Mapdec]

@@rcg9573 couldn’t have said it better myself. The only think Enve make that I like is their stem, and tire pressure gage.

[@andreemurray7039]

The over priced show no wonder the cycle trade is in trouble it over prices the customer

[@Mapdec]

I don’t think I saw any signs of trouble here. This is a very niche segment of cycling for sure

[@matthewlewis2072]

So don't go. I quite like a bit of bling.

[@aljaliah6868]

You're going places Paul and the team ,time to take it to the next level and do something with your brand. Remember our chat about that.

[@Mapdec]

Thanks. How’s your Basso going?

[@aljaliah6868]

@ Excellent, thank you very much. It’s a different class being with Campagnolo but need to still upgrade the wheels for speed.

[@alexanderwassmann3592]

@mattharvey yes, we’re watching!