Dirty Kanza 2018 - What We Would Have Done Differently?

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Күн бұрын

After a week of reflection, what would have done differently in prepping for DK.
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@clementbonne13
@clementbonne13 6 жыл бұрын
The fact that you talk about your "failures" makes you the most inspiring bike channel I know! anyway if you ever come to France we'll ride together!
@mannybairos9182
@mannybairos9182 6 жыл бұрын
Clement Bonne i
@markreams3192
@markreams3192 6 жыл бұрын
It may sound counterintuitive but strength and sessions where you’re going above lactate threshold are important for endurance events. The greater your strength and lactate threshold the less the perceived effort is at more moderate speeds!
@edrcozonoking
@edrcozonoking 4 жыл бұрын
100% agreed.
@greggr1591
@greggr1591 6 жыл бұрын
You made the decision, committed to the training regimen and saw it through, and gave your best effort that day. This puts you in a select group regardless of the result. Good on ya.
@billzielke6798
@billzielke6798 6 жыл бұрын
I think you had heat exhaustion and you can’t tough your way through that and l doubt you can train to not suffer it. When it happens it’s best to do like you did. Otherwise, hospitalization may become necessary. You did the right thing. I enjoy your vids a lot! Thanks.
@Hughes225
@Hughes225 6 жыл бұрын
"Doers" get it...the try is what it's all about. Great job in your attempt, and great videos! Keep it up!!!
@AJMacDonaldJr
@AJMacDonaldJr 6 жыл бұрын
We learn more from failure than we do from success. You guys did well and you can be proud of what you did.
@snowfalleon7629
@snowfalleon7629 4 жыл бұрын
How honest you are is refreshing
@yarno_the_irondad9685
@yarno_the_irondad9685 6 жыл бұрын
Congratulations guys. Setting a goal is more important than actually completing it. It is the adventure towards the goal, but it should be at least fun. Also training can be fun. If you don't like riding in the snow, find another way to train. Keep up the good work.
@emacasper
@emacasper 6 жыл бұрын
The most honest video I have seen of the dirty kanza, thank you for this 👍🏻
@DiabloValleyPeds
@DiabloValleyPeds 6 жыл бұрын
great reflection and insights... great job...if you are not failing you are not being bold enough... in my eyes you guys rock = much respect to you!
@stevepark6363
@stevepark6363 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos on making the point that documentation of failure is meaningful but rare. The audience considers this a learning experience.
@danielmorgan4551
@danielmorgan4551 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, it was an adventure and something that you will not soon forget!
@freddavidson73
@freddavidson73 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an extremely lucid and heartfelt debriefing.
@mediumrick7667
@mediumrick7667 6 жыл бұрын
Again, kudos to both of you for attempting this. I know what you mean about the training. Prepping for such a long event can get to be too much of a good thing. When prep for an event ceases to be fun I try to reevaluate my goals. Haha, that's probably why I've never ridden 200 miles in one day! I've been on the bike for decades now and one thing I've learned is you need to keep it fun. Otherwise you'll end up drifting away from it. And I don't want that, I want to keep pedaling until I'm six feet under.
@elbowrinkles
@elbowrinkles 6 жыл бұрын
Love the video - nice try at the DK. No shame in failing. You made a good effort. I say try again. Too me it seems that the long-slow, endurance training approach was problematic. I would suggest a mixed structure of endurance and high intensity interval training. Hope you decide to try the DK again.
@mickeytaylor1499
@mickeytaylor1499 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for being sooo transparent. Be blessed.
@randyhale4181
@randyhale4181 6 жыл бұрын
You were honest with yourself and that's a win,win in my books 👍🏻
@tymbrimi0
@tymbrimi0 6 жыл бұрын
I emphatically applaud your honesty, humility and transparency. Based on this experience, pick a new challenge for this year that keeps the motivation and focus flowing!
@noahs2217
@noahs2217 6 жыл бұрын
It was great to meet you out there! Glad the restaurant suggestions on Friday were tasty! I’ve followed a few different training strategies for DK - lots of trainer time some years, and other forms of exercise combined with bike time on weekends. I think the second strategy has made me happier - I was excited to ride my bike whenever I got on it and I didn’t arrive in Kansas feeling burned out by the trainer time. CrossFit, some other HIIT work, weights, etc. during the week mean you’re not spending hours on the trainer during the week, and you can save your saddle time for Saturday and Sunday. Anyway, that’s what’s worked for me - hope you decide to come back and give it another go!
@cjdaking
@cjdaking 6 жыл бұрын
You guys got through the hard part, IMHO. The second 100 felt a lot easier to me last year, plus it cools off after dark. I pulled the plug this year after wrecking hard at 66 miles, so kudos! Try the support for hire next year - they're great!
@robbwolf3309
@robbwolf3309 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this now because I’m looking at Unbound for 2022… Did Leadville and the Crusher twice.. Great video!
@1oldkaw
@1oldkaw 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure that Laura and You wanted nothing more than to complete this challenge, but it is not a failure. It was a challenge where you did your best under very tough conditions. I applaud you both.
@jekyll8004
@jekyll8004 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos to both of you! And as far as talking about your "failure", the internet NEEDS more honesty and "genuine real". And besides, totally understandable that a DNF would be a bit of a letdown, but the fact that you both gave it your best from the beginning to the end should be considered a win considering this was no "walk in the park"! For sure, you'll have memories for a lifetime!
@rquinones27
@rquinones27 6 жыл бұрын
Great job to both of you. You guys kept it real all the way through the process and there’s no shame on that.
@daveschalk879
@daveschalk879 6 жыл бұрын
As always you guys are inspiring! Thanks for taking us along on another memorable ride.
@beckybercegeayconnor6135
@beckybercegeayconnor6135 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us follow your journey. Love your videos and learn so much from you.
@frankshorter449
@frankshorter449 6 жыл бұрын
Wow . You two reached for the stars!
@mikeytalplacido4887
@mikeytalplacido4887 6 жыл бұрын
It's nice to hear you share your experience about the event. Training alone is definitely challenging. I can totally relate since I did similar thing but for a different goal. And I'm doing it again after almost a year of not being on a saddle, so I can almost tell what to expect. With all that said, the fact that you guys attempt is already a win. Failure for me is not trying at all. You both put your best and it's a good thing! Take note that life is a never-ending learning experience. Have a good day & keep pedaling! 😉
@simonguard5087
@simonguard5087 6 жыл бұрын
No need to over analyse this, I am in awe of you both for giving it a go and if you decide to enter again you've learnt from this experience. After all cut back all the DK hype and it's just a bike ride albeit a long one! Keep posting the vids.
@wilkbor
@wilkbor 6 жыл бұрын
I love honest discussions like this and I think you trained as well as you could have given the time that you had. I cycle a lot in the Gulf Coast region, where heat and humidity are the norm and I understand how devastating it can be, particularly if your body hasn't been outside in awhile. Anyway, great job. Take a rest and then decide your next adventure. Best, KB.
@christianarvelo3330
@christianarvelo3330 6 жыл бұрын
Dude. Love your videos. I'm a roadie, but I'm looking forward to one day do the DK. The hot weather here in Puerto Rico works in my favor for it.
@miporsche
@miporsche 6 жыл бұрын
You did great! I'm sure it is tempting to criticize yourselves, especially if you think others are counting on success. Your fans don't care if you won or lost, only that you tried, and that you took us with you in your experience. You both have a rare talent for expressing your thoughts and feelings in a way that is truthful, thought provoking and inspiring. The other channel I watched who had a DK200 attempt also failed to finish. It's life. I finished the DK 50 last year and the 100 this year, but I trained in some of the the same conditions that they hold the event in. DK is no joke. It's like surfing giant waves, or skiing steep slopes or rock climbing a dangerous cliff. Nature does what she does. We either adapt or she puts an end to our attempt. Obviously, training in heat, humidity and wind will help. You have hills aplenty, so you have that part already conquered. Geoff
@randallh9366
@randallh9366 6 жыл бұрын
You two are awesome! Those of us (desk jockey's) on this side of the screen are likely nowhere near capable of pulling off what you have accomplished. Never let those that have not done prevent you from doing. And I personally would like to see you guys attempt this again (assuming you find this somewhat enjoyable).
@lbmcr
@lbmcr 6 жыл бұрын
How it was in the real world.. your honesty is refreshing. Thanks
@jrc480
@jrc480 6 жыл бұрын
Wow great video series. I applaud your efforts but more importantly your openness and bravery.
@stephaniebarrier2290
@stephaniebarrier2290 6 жыл бұрын
Love you guys! You're so real.
@jzoleta0311
@jzoleta0311 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos to you guys. A very honest reflection in training for a goal
@jonathanyoung5873
@jonathanyoung5873 6 жыл бұрын
R and L, thanks for sharing the “training and ride” experience to us “armchair” riders who don’t have the time or money to attempt 200 MILES on gravel no less-love the channel and hope you give a ride of this magnitude another go for us “vicarious” ones... J
@johndean4912
@johndean4912 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same doubts about my ability. Thankfully I have completed 3 since. This year I did get one century in. That day wind was favorable overall. The next day the wind was against us for 60 of 83 miles. I too have been beat up and exhausted by them. Thank you for sharing your experience. Please look up Biking Across Kansas. Please keep in mind that it is a supported ride with great overnight stops in wonderful Kansas towns. John
@listofromantics
@listofromantics 6 жыл бұрын
10:34 Exactly. Failure is a valuable teaching opportunity; even if you lose, don't lose the lesson.
@ericcornell3243
@ericcornell3243 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent post-ride analysis! Thanks for detailing your process.
@josephfarrell8125
@josephfarrell8125 6 жыл бұрын
Big respect from Brighton, UK. Keep up the quality content!
@lanceoa
@lanceoa 6 жыл бұрын
Great reflection on the ride/result! I’m sure your next rides will be more fantastic result and satisfaction wise given all your new found knowledge!
@TysRides
@TysRides 6 жыл бұрын
You are lucky you got selected in the lottery! I live in South KC and ride A LOT of gravel. I entered the 100 lottery this year and was not selected. Hoping for a 200 selection next year.
@alsayers
@alsayers 6 жыл бұрын
Great post ride evaluation. Your honesty is refreshing. Just an FYI. I prepped about a year for my first GranFondo.
@biking261
@biking261 6 жыл бұрын
Sometime you have to see where your limits are and there is only one way to find out and that's going outside your comfort zone and trying new things. Don't mistake disappointment with failure as you are both certainly not failures you have found your limit that's all. I do these sort of distances several times a year and here are a few tricks i find work for me. Break the ride down into sections find something of interest in each section and go looking for this point of interest and don't think any further ahead than the section you are currently riding. Do not ride looking at the bike computer, I have mine mostly on the map and resist the temptation to keep looking at the stats, seeing you still have 150 miles to go is really hard. I look forward to seeing you both have another go.
@lorenzsiggel1515
@lorenzsiggel1515 6 жыл бұрын
There were 67 listed as DNF. You and Laura were not among them so there are more...call it 100 out of ca. 1000 starters for the 200 miler. 10% is significant so don’t beat yourself up over it. I agree with other comments regarding training not just for endurance. I do 300km road marathons and include intervals and steep hills in my training mix for strength and “character”. I’m 62 so it is harder for me than someone 20 years younger (like me 20 years ago😃) the plan doesn’t need to be extreme to be doable. I am now inspired to try for a spot in next years DK200...I hope I get a break coming from Germany. Keep the supple side down!
@lorenzsiggel1515
@lorenzsiggel1515 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I just looked and there were 266 DNFs in the 200 miler. That is brutal. .....I’m still gonna try to get in for next year though. My motto has always been, “no brain! No pain” ...not dumb but mentally disconnect or embrace it. “I really hurt Zeke, but it’s a good hurt”😉
@franklumpycounty7945
@franklumpycounty7945 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your review. Your right, most social media just shows the frosting and never the cake. Don't beat yourself up about the SAG crew. I've done lots of SAG and weather it's making sandwiches or fixing a derailleur, its all good. Busy = useful, It's worse not being used.
@wranglercycling6420
@wranglercycling6420 6 жыл бұрын
I would be happy enough to be blessed by taking a part of the event let alone to complete it...!
@maxredburn6610
@maxredburn6610 6 жыл бұрын
On the GCN episode on DK200 she says the exact same thing about nutrition in the heat, I can only imagine... Also, great mindstate to be looking for a new horizon to work towards.
@fireroadie6654
@fireroadie6654 6 жыл бұрын
If you guys go back to Dirty Kanza I will be your SAG. I would love to be a part of the team. I have been a Cyclist for more then 30 years and a Firefighter/EMT for 18 years I think I am qualified. Let’s do it.
@scottamy404
@scottamy404 4 жыл бұрын
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” - Teddy Roosevelt.
@WanderABit
@WanderABit 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! I won't add much because as you pointed out when the conditions are different you have big problems -- you (and your body) has to have prior experience with everything -- how to pack, the heat, the effort etc. Too much gear is bad, too little is bad as well, all small mistakes could sum up in a nasty result. But one thing that stroke me as odd -- you don't need to push all the bicycle training, be more flexible, if it is raining, switch to running. Any sport activity will help you, build your muscles, and so on -- when your body become a spring you can take any challenge you want :-).
@danielashleybaker
@danielashleybaker 6 жыл бұрын
Great job. I plan big rides late in the year so I can do my training during the summer. Early season rides are hard to prep for because of the winter, as you point out. Maybe target a big fall ride.
@johnrodgers6049
@johnrodgers6049 6 жыл бұрын
Training (or studying or preparing) for anything that matters takes time. It’s not always fun. There will always be sacrifice. When you attain the goal it makes it all the sweeter. If it were easy and didn’t involve sacrifice then no one would appreciate it.
@johndean4912
@johndean4912 6 жыл бұрын
Hi. I have been riding the Biking Across Kansas ride since 2007. This years ride was extremely difficult. The heat and wind this year were exceptionally tough. I know your feeling about quitting. I called and had my son come get me one year. I too had that doubts but
@Graptos
@Graptos 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the scientific method, hypothesize, experiment, oops, go back revise, and test again - always learning as you progress. There is only failure if you don’t learn from your experience. And you certainly have been a great experimenter and teacher too. 🌈🌲🏜🏔🏕🌬❄️🌦🐏🦌🎣🚴‍♂️🚴‍♀️
@123epn
@123epn 6 жыл бұрын
I have no doubt you made the right decision. I think with heat exhaustion, you were risking very real medical jeopardy. Better to live and race another day (or some analogous platitude) ;-) Glad you made the decision you did.
@kyotokat8543
@kyotokat8543 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the follow up. Have you guys considered holding more cycling events yourselves? I'm sure they’d be interest. You could do it in a place handy for yourselves, limit the entry numbers/hours/miles/program (eg. bike fishing) to what you’re comfortable with, etc etc.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
Considering it!
@WildOutdoorLiving
@WildOutdoorLiving 6 жыл бұрын
Come do Jay P's Gravel Pursuit in September! Salsa's Chase the Chaise will be there this year and it's on some of the most beautiful roads I have ever seen. You can do 60 or 120 miles. I think I'm going to go for the 120 and then throw my hat in the DK200 lottery for next year. ( you guys finally indirectly convinced me)
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet. We'll see if we can fit that in the calendar.
@nickerickson2719
@nickerickson2719 6 жыл бұрын
1. You can train better and 'enjoy' the process more. 2. Love all your videos. 3. I am a fitness expert and also avid cyclist and see gaps in your preparations that are specific to training design, goal setting etc. I'd love to talk, reach out!
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 6 жыл бұрын
Make a video with the dynamic duo -- I'd love to see it
@AngelaPaterna
@AngelaPaterna 6 жыл бұрын
Trying to do anything in Montana this past winter was just plain hard.
@CWChandler1968
@CWChandler1968 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Love how real you are. I am planning to do the DK 100 next year and if that goes well the DK 200 the year after. I live in the mid-west and we have lots of gravel rides/races here. They range from 40 miles to across Iowa ( over 300). As you know anyone who fashions themselves a cyclist can ride 40, 50, or 60 miles.....its amazing to me as you cross the century mark how much more training and preparation it takes. I am turning 50 next month. In my younger days (20s) I did triathlons and centuries. I have never ridden over 100 miles in a day. It will be an experience. Any idea how many started and finished the DK 2018? Best part of my new commitment is I feel like it entitles me to a new gravel bike..... so keep those reviews coming, still undecided on exactly what to purchase, but my budget has increased by $500 (so far). I know what I want...and as always it isn't cheap...LOL
@ericenser7151
@ericenser7151 6 жыл бұрын
I met you in Spokane at the Adventure Cycling/Washington Bike summit event. Curious what your base mileage was from training? All of the DK videos have been great. A good look into the training commitment and the event itself. Good luck with future events and keep pedaling.
@AK-ic1yj
@AK-ic1yj 6 жыл бұрын
DK may have been a failure but making excellent content for you YT channel was a success. Let’s face it, this YT channel is more important than DK. At least for you guys I mean. Anyways, it actually was a success for you, finish DK or not. Rock on! 😊
@drtibber
@drtibber 6 жыл бұрын
Would do less total time on the bike as preparation. But more efficient time such as sprints and interval training. Zwift has training sessions built in. CrossFit sessions with whole body strength helps a lot in between bike sessions. I also have a problem eating at strenuous events ( and altitude for me) so I bring snacks in 4 different categories: Sweet, Salty, Sour and Spicy. I can usually find something that I will eat.
@johnreiland4362
@johnreiland4362 6 жыл бұрын
Experience is definitely the best teacher and always dangle the carrot out front. Maintain a goal.
@jollyandwaylo
@jollyandwaylo 5 жыл бұрын
I might suggest to people to ride a 200 mile road bike event first, like Seattle's STP. Road is much easier and you can learn a lot in an easier ride but one that still has the distance. The mental challenge is probably the toughest but heat, especially high humidity, is horrible.
@jonhume6051
@jonhume6051 6 жыл бұрын
I've an 820 (and an 810 before that that I managed to lose in a ditch). The laggy user interface and occasional crashing is a sign of either poor or buggy programming (unlikely, given how long they've been around) or that the device is on the limit of the available processing power (far more likely given vintage). Consequently, I've found that if I lower the processing burden on cpu then (at least on the the 820) things tend to run more reliably. In particular, what works well enough for me to navigate 6 hour plus courses whilst recording data (including heart rate) is to make it easier for the device to find free memory space by manually removing all unused route and ride data before ride. If this hadn't fixed things up for me, then I would have experimented with manually turning off Bluetooth and wifi connectivity. It's also worth mentioned that with this vintage of Garmin device I'd advocate avoiding Bluetooth peripherals, as in my opinion they will be unlikely to work as well as those running Garmin's own Ant wireless technology.
@PKAY8608
@PKAY8608 6 жыл бұрын
good job guys!
@cyclingnerddelux698
@cyclingnerddelux698 2 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem is you didn’t enjoy the training. If you don’t get a kick out of the training process, if you don’t look forward to it, that is a huge problem if you want to prep for an event of this magnitude.
@ecast1500
@ecast1500 6 жыл бұрын
Outstanding Try again
@johnfarr5415
@johnfarr5415 6 жыл бұрын
Been loving your videos and your honesty about both products and in this case your failures is refreshing. Keep it up, I know I hit the sub button after watching this video. As others have said your training could have been done a bit better, not sure of your trainer rides but programs like TrainerRoad are specifically designed and tailored toward different efforts and increasing your ability to do them be it MTB, Road Racing, Triathalon or Endurance events. Sounds like you could have lowered your training volume but still made gains as well. Personally I would have been doing fasted training rides to help with fat adaptation.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
We did a lot of fasted riding. Anything below 3 hours had no food.
@johnfarr5415
@johnfarr5415 6 жыл бұрын
Great...maybe. When I refer to fasted riding I'm talking no food for 10-12 hours before the ride. I know different people use the term fasting differently. Is there a video on your training that I missed? I just found you recently and haven't gone deep into your library.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
We did that too. 3 hour rides before eating breakfast. We covered some of those topics in the #Couch2Kanza playlist. Nutrition. Gear. Fat adaptation. etc.,
@uniquenamegoeshere2263
@uniquenamegoeshere2263 6 жыл бұрын
Your process and story is what people care about most. For me, whether or not you finished the race, was secondary to the story you told. Go camp, paint, and fish. Best days.
@arminhess1512
@arminhess1512 6 жыл бұрын
I really like your channel - a lot of information without being too close to a certain brand or something. Your fail will myke you stronger for the next time. Definitively! But in my opinion it was not a mental thing, only. You said that your average speed brought you down. If I look at your position on the bike this is absolutely clear: you are sitting quite upright. The most important thing on such long distances is aerodynamics to save energy on same speed or going faster on same power output. Would it have been a better feeling if your average speed was 3-5 km/h higher? I think so. So for the next time: bar down and an aerobar for better aerodynamics.
@RugbyNick6
@RugbyNick6 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the effort and thanks for documenting the experience. The fat burn training seems like a mistake IMO. I feel like you've got to crush it and attack the training and diet.
@owenpreece4508
@owenpreece4508 6 жыл бұрын
Great video
@roykent1858
@roykent1858 6 жыл бұрын
another great video!!
@jeffbrunton3291
@jeffbrunton3291 6 жыл бұрын
Well done, great effort Sorry if I missed it, but what was the hardest / longest event you had done before the DK? I would expect same distance on road and maybe 80% on gravel Also for the heat maybe use the podium camelback bottles and ice?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
Prior to DK we did a gravel event in Montana that was 70 miles. Leading up to DK, we did a few centuries.
@marklahaie4389
@marklahaie4389 6 жыл бұрын
Love that you aimed high! Great job! Very inspirational! Love all your videos. Having done 200 mile bicycle rides and run 100 mile races, I can tell you that both have a cliff where it gets real. If your pretty fit, a person can grind out a 100 miler on a bike or run a 50 miler. After that, you gonna go through some transformational stuff to push through. That's where the true suffer fest begins! The good news is so long as you are eating, drinking and not peeing Coca Cola your body can do way more than you could ever imagine (like 2 to 3 times more). Start your training earlier and go back to do the 200. I promise you it will be a life changing experience. You will never view any physical challenge the same again! You will feel like you can be successful at anything you take on, no matter how epic and difficult. Because you will have rewired your brain to believe through your experience. Remember that when you are dead dog tired your brain lies to you and its powers of persuasion are formidable! Call bullshit and push through!
@izzy7062
@izzy7062 5 жыл бұрын
You rode more than 100 miles of gravel......Good job. I would asd to that over time, but managing expectations was your issue. You did well for inexperienced ultra riders.
@mortenreippuertknudsen3576
@mortenreippuertknudsen3576 6 жыл бұрын
know exactly the felling when abandoning an event 2/3 in because you know that you will not be able to complete and proberbly not even making it to your final destination and could end up i the midle of nowhere withoutany way to get back. Very vallid thoghts inded about exit strategy, enen though i gave tried it and tried to plan for it it will happen again. Good thing is you will be wiser after 3-4 times :-) Last y i exited l'eroica at 180k....only 29k from the finish but i knew i would have been rerouted in the darkness and not beeing able to finish and i would have missed by ride back from Giaole to Sienna if i had tried to continue.
@johnnyguzman3429
@johnnyguzman3429 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are bike tourers, a different build and a different mindset then someone who does competitive events. I think you guys should go back to basics and do the type of bike riding you like to do. Start putting in more base miles out on nice scenic roads and maybe do a couple of bike overnights at Yosemite National Park since you guys are in Montana.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
We are certainly bike tourers, but after doing it for a decade you want to try other things. So this was our attempt at trying something different.
@jdear97
@jdear97 5 жыл бұрын
No failure in riding over 100 miles in the dirt and heat. Perhaps just a lot of crazy folks that did.
@kursk8
@kursk8 6 жыл бұрын
Ragbrai?
@bonkasaurus_wrecks
@bonkasaurus_wrecks 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, so late. I hate to see and hear the dejection in your voice. You did great, If it matters, and next time ( yes, next time) perhaps try the shorter DK distance? They have 25, 50, 100, and 200 mile courses.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 5 жыл бұрын
We tried to downgrade to 100 but missed the date to do so.
@robgutie1935
@robgutie1935 4 жыл бұрын
Just over 50k, Dirty Kanza 2020
@MrJgibo1
@MrJgibo1 6 жыл бұрын
Kudos for the effort. As someone living in Texas I understand the heat. Getting yourself more fat adapted can help on these long rides. Not sure how you can get adjusted to heat living in Montana.
@finarollerz
@finarollerz 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know what average wattage was?
@johnbouttell5827
@johnbouttell5827 6 жыл бұрын
Some people meditate, some take magic mushrooms -- others 'do' DK ...
@johnzarn3367
@johnzarn3367 6 жыл бұрын
The gravel I ride makes you sink and you are fishtail all over. Is it like that everywhere?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
No.
@NeilHodges
@NeilHodges 6 жыл бұрын
My experience is that when "ride fuel" ends up tasting sickeningly sugary, it's a sign that your electrolytes are low and need to be replenished. At the ends of my harder centuries, I'd end up eating beef jerky and chips, despite consuming Nuun along the way.
@YellowfinCoachMatt
@YellowfinCoachMatt 5 жыл бұрын
Where did you guys find a place to stay in emporia?
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 5 жыл бұрын
Air BnB.
@YellowfinCoachMatt
@YellowfinCoachMatt 5 жыл бұрын
did you have to drive to start or close enough to bike
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 5 жыл бұрын
Matt Thompson we were a little outside of town so we drove in.
@chrispatoz
@chrispatoz 6 жыл бұрын
good honest recap awesome!! some sources of info for you - rusa.org/ - its likely there is a club in your area that might help the training regime - for distance there is no substitute for miles in the legs but camaraderie helps - also Jan Heine publishes Bicycling Quarterly magazine and has a blog on wordpress that will have a load of info on equipment etc he is a member of Seattle Randonneurs - the long randonees are the summit of the sport but they also have more shorter brevees that riders must complete a series of to enter the randonees - dont forget not every DNF is a failure..... sure you didn't achieve what you set out to do but you learnt heaps about yourself, your techniques, equipment and tactics - no one can ask more than your best :) rest assured you are far from alone in how you feel about it :)
@vannarit4078
@vannarit4078 5 жыл бұрын
You could of finished if you did solo maybe.
@paulespinoza7172
@paulespinoza7172 6 жыл бұрын
Really would have liked to see other items talked about like: bottles, pumps etc. dropped alone the way maybe a few more pit teams at work and how you got back, do they put your bikes on a trailer and you in a bus. There is so much as you say (they) do not show. You are both still winners..
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
We hitched a ride in with a friend of the support crew and left our bikes with the crew. Too much to film and ride at the same time.
@dianatheriault2913
@dianatheriault2913 6 жыл бұрын
Next time you should bring a support crew! "Do I need a support crew? Yes. In fact, don’t come without one. If you get lost, hurt, or just plain worn out and want to quit, we will not come get you. DK200 is a self-supported event. That means YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU. Don’t expect someone you don’t know to save your backside. You need to have a well thought-out emergency backup plan that includes at least one support crew person to come get you, should you need help. If you cannot provide your own support crew you can hire the crew-for-hire services from Never Let Go Fund. They will provide support crew services to you and the proceeds go to support their mission of helping families battling childhood cancer. Learn more at bikereg.com/dirty-kanza."
@olesrensen1863
@olesrensen1863 6 жыл бұрын
I dont understand your logic concerning beeing glad choosing failing 200 miles, instead of doing the 100 mile and finish. That is just complete greek to me TBH :) If u did the 100 miles, you would have much better pace control.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 6 жыл бұрын
It’s complicated. We were reasonably certain we could do 100. It would have felt great to “finish” but also somehow incomplete as if we didn’t try hard enough. In this case, we did a 100 but failed at the 200. So it’s like a two-fer. Got the semi satisfaction of finishing 100 with the chance to really push ourselves.
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