Man just change it back to full season Winston Cup era. This was the most coverage nascar has received in ages.
@geoffreyrose332727 күн бұрын
100%
@BradKeselowski627 күн бұрын
And get rid of overtime.
@dhvol9827 күн бұрын
Playoff ruined the sport. Zero historical comparisons available now. Dale Sr would never have let it happen.
@David-zd7ft27 күн бұрын
Yes!
@StudioDaVeed27 күн бұрын
YES! Keep the Stage Points but no Stage cautions. And NO playoffs!
@sumoneelse688127 күн бұрын
The integrity of the sport has been tarnished by the "playoffs" and the "win and you're in" crap.
@kyle5768827 күн бұрын
100% this is the first step in NASCAR regaining that legitimacy.
@va.cracker931827 күн бұрын
But your still watching?
@mechanictaft484827 күн бұрын
Nope I stopped watching nascar in 2001
@KKFan927 күн бұрын
@@mechanictaft4848"NaScAr DiEd WhEn DaLe Sr DiEd"
@kyle5768827 күн бұрын
@@mechanictaft4848 Yet you are here commenting in 2024. Seems like it must still be pretty important to you. If you don't watch don't comment simple as that.
@roberttangen294227 күн бұрын
The only thing wrong with this is that NASCAR waited 3 days to make this ruling. If you can’t making the ruling on race day all you’re doing is looking to see which way the wind is blowing.
@Secretarian25 күн бұрын
The wind is coming in from the stockyards... and it stinks!
@JimPinch-te9vq23 күн бұрын
Nascar sucks
@sicfrynut23 күн бұрын
@@JimPinch-te9vq so glad i was a fan in the 80's and 90's. so much fun back then, even if earnhardt won too much.
@geoffreyrose332727 күн бұрын
NASCAR was at the height of its popularity when they just raced. No win and your in, no race segments with playoff points, none of this crap. Just get back to racing and letting the teams figure out how to race a 400-500 mile race without all these other distractions.
@HotRodMonza177627 күн бұрын
DAMN STRAIGHT STOP THE DAMN SEGMENTS
@geoffreyrose332727 күн бұрын
@@HotRodMonza1776 i couldn’t agree more
@truckercowboyed263827 күн бұрын
No one wants to watch 500 miles straight the fans crying about the length is why we got stages to break it up into smaller races essentially...
@CraftySasquatch27 күн бұрын
THESE NEW NASCAR FANS ARE ALL W0KET@RDS THEY CAN'T SIT THROUGH 500 MILES.
@rmiller724527 күн бұрын
Green, white, checker rule has ruined cup racing. This and elimination style "playoffs" have created this type of racing.
@alkaline888627 күн бұрын
Nascar will remove Austin from the playoffs but they will show that ending 1,000 times advertising Nascar....Damn jokes
@billyfox146827 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but I have never seen the problem with this. The governing body and the marketing department are different worlds. Other racing series show wrecks in promotional material all the time.
@nashvillecop127 күн бұрын
What would have been the decision IF Dale,senior had been driving the 3 car?? NOTHING!!!!!
@aaronhobart622327 күн бұрын
It’s the right call what NASCAR decided move on from it they don’t have any hate from me
@aaronhobart622327 күн бұрын
@@nashvillecop1sr been dead for over 20 years move on world has changed a lot
@robertbarrett687827 күн бұрын
9pm@@billyfox1468
@dsonictube27 күн бұрын
If Dale Sr would have done this it would be bad ass and Nascar would have promoted it...amazing
@stevekelley773823 күн бұрын
Do Not call the late great Dale Earnhardt .... " Senior "..... Dale hated that and he would tell you point blank to your face to zip it. I don't blame him !
@blakebarone180916 күн бұрын
@@stevekelley7738how sanctimonious. Name your son a junior but throw a fit when you get referred to by your actual name.
@stevekelley773815 күн бұрын
@@blakebarone1809 I agree with Dale Earnhardt. When Dale was born he was not named Dale Sr. ..... he was Dale Earnhardt ! His son was named Dale Jr. . When most people turn 40 and get old they are so greedy they start going out to restaurants and literally begging for their " SENIOR DISCOUNT " for food, service, and atmosphere that is an absolute joke. The food they get is not only bad... it is hardly enough to feed a 6 year old child and yet they act silly like it was a great deal when they ask the sorry waitress/waiter for a to go box for a plate of food that starts out as an appetizer sized bite of nasty food. In addition to that the atmosphere is horrible in most of those venues. So... Dale Earnhardt did not want to be treated like a worn out delapidated helpless old man. Nothing wrong with that. Dale Earnhardt was tough. RESPECT people... don't come up with your own names for them. Why is the 1st question that people ask you.. and practically the only question they ask you... " How old are you " ? Face the facts.... Most people are old when they turn 35 ( especially women )... but many people who are 80 look ,act, and are physically younger than people half their age. Call him Dale the 1st !.... The one and only !
@dough832127 күн бұрын
NASCAR Waits till Wednesday to gage public opinion
@martygun328627 күн бұрын
Get your facts straight they waited to study the data
@dough832127 күн бұрын
@@martygun3286 For sure....
@KKFan927 күн бұрын
Or doing thorough research, looking at all the facts presented before making the correct decision, instead of making a wrong or hasty one.
@billtmarchi432027 күн бұрын
@@martygun3286and then they twisted the data to fit their decision
@YankeeDoodle227 күн бұрын
@@KKFan9 They still made the wrong decision
@user-of3se2gz7z27 күн бұрын
Having this format helps nascar get who they want in the championship.
@racervx5427 күн бұрын
This is why Nascar is dying a slow miserable death....
@KriticullCTRL27 күн бұрын
Yeah, because the playoff system is a joke. All season consistent teams winning a chip is how it should be and they ruined it because they think this new system will attract new fans. NOPE!
@jaybrown218226 күн бұрын
Exactly
@ericroth580726 күн бұрын
Yup
@curtzeek881826 күн бұрын
I don't think it's that slow.
@lts14fan4525 күн бұрын
Totally agree!
@dcooper91g27 күн бұрын
Change rule mid stream nascrap! Good job! We have a local track that does that and they average 35 cars per week now. Not at all an Dillon fan BUT “win, your in” was the rule. If Bubba done it, he’d be in! If Denny done it (and wasn’t already in) he’d be in! Haven’t watched a race in 2 years and won’t be watching any for sure now!
@bartpang27 күн бұрын
Kenny Wallace has the right idea. Make the decision before the burnout and going to the winners circle.
@xiaolee97927 күн бұрын
Yep, if you're going to strip a win do it at the track. Nascar just looks like bumbling idiots again.
@toddedwards537327 күн бұрын
Nascar need to grow a pair and make a decision on raceday and stick to it.its a win or it isn't.
@longjohn52627 күн бұрын
A kneejerk reaction is never the right way to do things. What killed Dillon most likely was the SMT data showing he intentionally hooked Hamlin after his spotter yelled wreck him. If all he had wrecked was Logano then he probably would have gotten away with it.
@NewWorldCT27 күн бұрын
Well yeah cuz it was obvious.
@dantraylor339027 күн бұрын
Never be in a rush to make a decision unless you have to. They gathered information and made a decision. A knee jerk reaction would have been worse. This didn’t happen at a local short track with street stocks. Now when the decision goes to appeal there will be little chance it will be over turned.
@channel6192627 күн бұрын
32 nd place wins a race and automatically gets into the playoffs for a championship, that is crazy.
@W4RY3NTRY27 күн бұрын
That’s why the the points system is the way it is. So everyone has a chance and makes more competition
@Justin-no1od27 күн бұрын
Reasons like this is why it's broken. You could win every race in a season but if someone else in the final 4 beats you in the championship race you lose it all.
@Leo-Amman27 күн бұрын
not anymore he isn’t
@Prostarter8827 күн бұрын
@@Justin-no1odyupp. Almost happened in 2021 with Larson.
@billythenarwhal157927 күн бұрын
@Justin-no1od that's how championships work, happened to the Patriots when they went 18-1, I do think we should race at a better track for the championship tho.
@gcrauwels94127 күн бұрын
The way the playoff system is now is why he did what he did.
@dragonboss8827 күн бұрын
And I hope that everybody else has learned that Dumping someone from 4 car lengths back and dumping the car that is passing him to get a win is crossing the line.
@Kamik6227 күн бұрын
No, he shouldnt do it.
@ultraviolettp344627 күн бұрын
Professional drivers don't need to do what he did. No talent hacks do what he did.
@sethcarlisle733027 күн бұрын
Exactly. People are still going to wreck people to win, albeit not this recklessly. Gotta get rid of the Chase altogether.
@davidbottles303527 күн бұрын
Desperation to win just like Chastain rim riding. Trying to make the playoffs. Current NASCAR system sucks. I’m old school and like the Winston days.
@JerryMoore-tm9cf27 күн бұрын
NASCAR and the Secret Service - Both give answers days after the shots are fired.
@orendz774027 күн бұрын
Love this
@gordonfleming797627 күн бұрын
@@JerryMoore-tm9cf lol
@philsonnenberg609227 күн бұрын
NASCAR always releases penalties on Tues/Weds for the previous weekend. This is nothing new.
@sheliab980627 күн бұрын
It is still stupid @@philsonnenberg6092
@John-zh1ud27 күн бұрын
Yeah but he shouldnt have even had the W.
@stephenpatton525427 күн бұрын
Seen Dale Sr. Do this for years and it was celebrated
@angelbonilla667326 күн бұрын
Facts!!!
@johngilmer678224 күн бұрын
It was called exciting racing back then.
@tomswetich140227 күн бұрын
The only reason they didn't strip the win is because of sports betting.
@kswheels27 күн бұрын
Sports betting doesn't work that way. If you bet on Austin on Sunday you won, regardless of penalty.
@gordonfleming797627 күн бұрын
I had not even thought of that, that's an excellent point.
@codyhathaway771527 күн бұрын
As someone who won $1K on him, I thought about this too haha.
@gordonfleming797627 күн бұрын
@@codyhathaway7715 that's awesome :)
@dianej171427 күн бұрын
I don't care if he keeps the win. They took away the playoff berth. As they should. That's why he did what he did. No playoff reward for that move.
@S_Waltz27 күн бұрын
Personally as a fan I think this playoff format stinks the place up. Lets go back old school and take it back to the 90s format aka Winston Cup style.
@asun4196627 күн бұрын
I agree it forces their hand its so cut throat !!
@gothard527 күн бұрын
Absolutely not
@nh3rd54725 күн бұрын
That would be really exciting when the points.Leader hasn't wrapped up with three weeks to go
@josephrichard489924 күн бұрын
Get rid of stages,40 cars in the field Qual 1 get 40 point down to last 5 lead a lap,5 for the most lsps,win40 on down.
@johnkerns451927 күн бұрын
What about when 11 and 22 put 24 out when he leading no penalties guess that was different
@I_AmLegend2725 күн бұрын
I remember when joey did the exact same thing to matt kenseth at kansas several years ago. Nascar did absolutely nothing about it but when matt wrecked joey in retaliation a week or 2 later he was suspended
@waltchase329723 күн бұрын
@@I_AmLegend27 They have to keep it DEI acceptable.
@sicfrynut23 күн бұрын
@@I_AmLegend27 joey took brad out for a daytona win as well. joey is no angel, but dillon effed up and deserved his penalty. no consistency from nascar. and it shouldn't take 3 days to make a decision.
@daveellis211727 күн бұрын
I have been a fan of NASCAR racing since I was 14. I am now 73 and have seen a lot of changes. My opinion is that NASCAR wants to put everyone in bubble wrap. Lets go back to the old days.
@ejherndon12727 күн бұрын
Yep. 1980-2000 were the best. NASCAR died with Dale in 2001. RIP #3
@lanedouglas216527 күн бұрын
Agree, from another 74 old fan
@nedyarb200027 күн бұрын
So you just explained the world we live in now. Everything is bubble wrapped and safe. Do not hurt anybody’s feelings.
@Green7420127 күн бұрын
The irony of this thread is amazing
@mrbutterworth_s888327 күн бұрын
@ejherndon127 this is the best racing we've seen since those days......and that's now dead also....such a shame ......fans and nascar just wanna be F1 now days
@stevehinton530027 күн бұрын
Joey or Denny WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME DAMN THING if they were in 2nd place and we've SEEN IT BEFORE..!!!💯🔥💥
@cdchoux26 күн бұрын
Also Dale, Sr
@edwardippoliti62624 күн бұрын
So true , and we haven't seen bigger cry babies then them either , especially Joey ! Great point , thank you !! Paybacks a beach !
@gordonlynn830024 күн бұрын
this was definitely at a different level , this was beyond a bump and run , this was a crash and run .
@israelmathes626827 күн бұрын
If RCR cannot profit by Winning NASCAR shouldn't be allowed to use the footage to sale tickets since it's against the rules
@RedskinzFan27 күн бұрын
They SHOULDNT profit from winning a race illegally or detrimental to the safety of the drivers. Now Joe Gibbs racing has to fork out many thousands of dollars to repair a car unnecessarily. So how’s that decision to get wreck them supposed to work out in RCR’s situation.
@RAID3R6327 күн бұрын
@@RedskinzFandon't even start to say Joe Gibbs drivers have never torn up competition cars. Denny dumped JJ yeley for absolutely no reason
@YankeeDoodle227 күн бұрын
@RedskinzFan If this is illegal than they need to revoke half of Dennys wins and half of Joey's wins because they did the same thing
@Racecity63727 күн бұрын
Exactly!!⬆️
@marshallrogers801127 күн бұрын
It's Not Nascar decision to use the footage it's the Networks,Fox,NBC+soon Amazon plus TNT+CW. They replay at the beginning of the broadcast. Come On Man!!
@codyhathaway771527 күн бұрын
Will be funny if AD wins this week or Daytona and gets in anyway
@chevyblock55027 күн бұрын
@@codyhathaway7715 Daytona has been a good track to AD. Wouldn't surprise me.
@codyhathaway771527 күн бұрын
@@chevyblock550 that's what I'm saying. He's usually up front there. I think it was 2021 in Michigan he was running top 3 most of the race until keselowski right hooked him into the wall after stage 2 ended.
@rocksreviewsreactions33727 күн бұрын
I kind of wish he will. He had such a good car and had it won until the drivers wrecked with 2 to go.
@codyhathaway771527 күн бұрын
@@rocksreviewsreactions337 so do I man. I'm an Austin and RCR fan, I was so pumped until that yellow came out. Then even more pumped when chaos unfolded and he won, but I knew something was gonna happen.
@SmokeShow996927 күн бұрын
That would be funny
@zigdot626 күн бұрын
Integrity and NASCAR in the same sentence - can not be in the same sentence!!!
@michaelsoper361027 күн бұрын
Just one question: "when TF has NASCAR ever cared about the appearance of 'integrity' before"?
@ForgedCalamity27 күн бұрын
Again I’d like to blame stenhouse.
@pigeontowedprivileged96727 күн бұрын
Spot on brotha man
@TheMandalorianFanChannel27 күн бұрын
100% Spinhouse the idiot can't drive
@terrybenson363227 күн бұрын
Wrecky Spinhouse, Jr. 🤣 Rowdy was right with this nickname for him..😉
@jasonstarnes383827 күн бұрын
I dont know but i honestly believe 47 was intentional to cause a caution. No body has checked that data i bet. Jmo. Not a fan of anyone involved.
@gordongatzke711027 күн бұрын
Regardless of the stenhouse deal, who was driving the 3 car?
@DarthEvilicus25 күн бұрын
I can tell you as an F1 fan we would be outraged if a safety car was as deployed every 15 laps for no other reason than to just bunch up the field. Not every Grand Prix is going to be a banger which makes the ones that are even more special
@roymcdre918027 күн бұрын
*WHY DIDNT NASCAR PENALIZE STENHOUSE*
@jimmybrown_GT50027 күн бұрын
I think it's wrong because lagano did the same thing to the 24 car last year. But that was okay
@johnhopkins656527 күн бұрын
@@jimmybrown_GT500 no, no he did not. Go back and watch the full video, not the segment everyone is posting. That was eye for eye for Byron dooring him into the wall one lap prior. Byron absolutely knew he had that coming to him.
@KriticullCTRL27 күн бұрын
@@johnhopkins6565 Pretty sure Byron couldn't control his car being tight and not cutting the turn better, while also trying to get the lead. There's a big difference between what Byron did and what Joey did.
@johnhopkins656527 күн бұрын
@@KriticullCTRL end result was the same and neither wrecked. Byron knew exactly what he was doing and knew retribution was coming. You get raced by a guy like you race him.
@jameswaddilove202527 күн бұрын
Was it for the win and was it in the playoffs?
@ronk257726 күн бұрын
This Is PC bullshit. This is a race you race to win if I'm faster get out of the way or I'll help you😅
@dougnelson141427 күн бұрын
Nascar is killing itself, this is just another slice in a death of a thousand cuts. We'll see what happens when Joey or Denny does the same thing as they have many times before.
@edwardippoliti62624 күн бұрын
Yep so true! At least stop Logano from saying from five car lengths back , it was only two at the most , watch it ! Hamlin came up across to him to try to block him from winning, what would most of the other driver's done?
@RW-zh7kl24 күн бұрын
If someone gets ahead of you, you lost ur position. Which happened to Dillon twice, so being that he's such a great driver, his response was "well I guess I'll just have to wreck them" cuz he's such a good driver
@MikeDarknutNiccum21 күн бұрын
Nascar is a mere shadow of what is once was. Pretty much a joke now. I was a huge fan for years but I can't tolerate the endless stupidity at this point.
@jordanholmberg227020 күн бұрын
@@edwardippoliti626 are we watching the same video cause he's definitely like four or five car lengths back, he is not two car lengths back. I'm not a fan of Lagano or Hamlin, and they've wrecked a lot of people themselves, but nothing this agrievous.
@OleandersGamingEmporium27 күн бұрын
The fine for what Logano did isn't enough. They need to set a precedent where if you pull that kind of crap on pit road after the conclusion of the race, its a fine AND a suspension. One of these days someone is going to get hurt because of driver throwing a temper tantrum.
@OleandersGamingEmporium27 күн бұрын
@@Sighlense So a winning team jumping over the wall and celebrating on pit road while cars are crossing the line at 200 mph is ok? Got it. The competition was over, there is zero excuse for a driver that can clearly see there are people on pit road to show his ass. I wonder if you'd feel the same way if someone got run over. "It was a HOT road!" Yeah that's gonna stand up in court.
@DH5418927 күн бұрын
Enforce the hot pit road and people aren't out there. Teams, family, whatever. Shouldn't be there with moving cars.
@Sighlense27 күн бұрын
@@OleandersGamingEmporium of course team menbers are allowed. That's not who i refering to. But you knew that....
@Sighlense27 күн бұрын
@@OleandersGamingEmporium of couse team members are allowed. That's not who i was refering to. But you knew that...
@OleandersGamingEmporium27 күн бұрын
@@Sighlense What do you think is going to be easier for officials to enforce? Trying to hold back dozens of random people at any point on pit road or the 40 drivers who you have told beforehand that there will be consequences for unsportsmanlike conduct after the race conclusion? The kind of mentality you are defending puts people in danger for absolutely no reason. Not just people that "aren't supposed to be there" but crews and officials that are trying to do their job. Take the other people out of the equation, what if that was only a team? Is it ok that he nearly ran someone over just to spin his tires? *gasp* man he really showed that guy didn't he, I bet he'll never ever run into a car on the track ever again. These drivers need to grow up and Nascar needs to quit cupping their balls.
@horsedog367427 күн бұрын
RC needs to do a Tony Stewart and tell NASCAR TO FO.
@tammyoliver166527 күн бұрын
Yea who hated him for everything that happened to him
@amacoutdoors207627 күн бұрын
RC is a lying clown.
@christopherstory213627 күн бұрын
RC needs to retire if he has to resort to nepotism.
@gearjammer044525 күн бұрын
Honestly the richmond finish was the first footage I’ve actually watched since nascar put on they’re panties.
@MotorsportsFan1727 күн бұрын
The way people in the comments are acting, it's definitive proof that no matter what decision NASCAR makes, somebody is going to get angry about it
@rickroberts761127 күн бұрын
Mfers cry just to cry..It was gnna be that reaction no matter what they did or didn't do
@jjmckay6man127 күн бұрын
fan boys gonna cry.
@Basetugboat267527 күн бұрын
i know it's sad how people can defend Austin's behavior
@fast_mattw805927 күн бұрын
I mean, its a known fact theres a ton of low IQ and low common sense fans of this sport. Im friends with a few lol we all are lol
@abritandhisbikeinpoland680227 күн бұрын
Usually people that spend their whole lives dedicated to the cause of crying about Hamlin and Logano
@cmad-gl7ie27 күн бұрын
Stenthouse caused this whole dang issue.
@mikep.375627 күн бұрын
Do we think that caution was maybe planned? No cautions in the race. Makes you wonder WTF?
@djmohab227 күн бұрын
This is not getting enough traction. Outhouse and Fleece weren't even on the same lap, were they?
@svictor757327 күн бұрын
@@mikep.3756 100%
@mjacobs813927 күн бұрын
Even preece was like wtf.
@jasonallen799327 күн бұрын
It’s spelled Spinhouse
@nathan8786525 күн бұрын
The top paid drivers always complain the most when it happens to them but shrug their shoulders when they do it. They did the same thing against Ross
@billtmarchi432027 күн бұрын
Nascar decided dillon isnt good enough for ratings for the playoffs.
@mrtcward27 күн бұрын
He isn’t
@pingdis27 күн бұрын
NASCAR's show and they can decide anything they want to protect their show.
@Noman1010-nh6uh27 күн бұрын
By be dirty no
@Noman1010-nh6uh27 күн бұрын
@urtriggered2Nascar wasn't on when the Olympics started, heck no other motersports were starting in the Olympics except f1
@briantaylor656227 күн бұрын
That's it, not in the click!!!
@EllaGP2227 күн бұрын
Stenhouse just cost RCR $2M lol
@Trey-lh5wn27 күн бұрын
@urtriggered2wut
@kawai9910027 күн бұрын
Stenhouse...I just wonder why he's driving. Always messing up.
@Shiner043827 күн бұрын
@urtriggered2Busch didn’t bring out the yellow
@asun4196627 күн бұрын
He is a running joke in my house we say that every weekend ok what Driver is gonna lose out today because of Ricky He is always the caution
@matthewhoward551427 күн бұрын
It was the #47 and #41 who messed this race up. Austin without the caution was going to cruise to a win easily.
@greggromicko937727 күн бұрын
Wrong decision. Go and watch Earnhardt and Wallace at Richmond 1986. That's Racin', boys!
@michaelburdette277026 күн бұрын
Yes they where men not little boys trying to be men
@MichelleWatkins-h7m26 күн бұрын
@@michaelburdette2770hello handsome your pics got my attention NGL! You look good
@66lwmorgan27 күн бұрын
According to Kenny Wallace the decision should be made within 5 minutes not 3 days. He blasted Nascar for not deciding what to do on the same day of the race.
@joekaput74726 күн бұрын
He's not wrong, seeing as a bunch of short tracks around the entire country manage to do that weekly (as necessary, of course), so I get that, but at the same time, there is also way more at stake the higher up the ranks you go, and with an organizations increasing size. I get both sides of the argument.
@DarthEvilicus25 күн бұрын
You know it’s bad when they make the FIA look timely with post race rulings
@robertdigby450425 күн бұрын
lol because a expert like Kenny Wallace who never sniffed a checker flag is the source of how NASCAR should do their job.
@66lwmorgan25 күн бұрын
@@robertdigby4504 Exactly, lol
@wnettles125 күн бұрын
Kenny is just a hoot! I enjoy laughing at his comments. Reminds me of a child throwing a fit. Fun to watch but just stupid!!
@WarEagle195727 күн бұрын
There seems to be zero consistency to what NASCAR does!!
@chrisfoley332027 күн бұрын
Stenhouse brought the caution out on purpose because of his issues with rcr. Why hasn't anyone said anything about that.
@ForgedCalamity27 күн бұрын
Actions detrimental, NASCAR’s blanket term to just do whatever the hell they want.
@dingle3727 күн бұрын
Fr
@Twinspinner27 күн бұрын
So, you don't think a 3 car length divebomb AND right hook into the outside wall in one turn _isn't_ actions detrimental? Are you okay with drivers doing that every race?
@ForgedCalamity27 күн бұрын
@@Twinspinner I will preface this with, That is the dirtiest move I've Seen in my 25 + years of watching. The issue here is Nascar's half assed officiating and lack of rules and the use of "actions detrimental", to the point of being used to silence drivers from making negative comments about the sport. Nascar creates this "invisible line" and this gray area as Jr. said. And now that someone decide to wreck 2 people instead of the typical 1 they decide to make a move. Oh and what a half assed move. He gets the win but isn't eligible for the awful playoff system. This should of been handled like the hail melon where you write a new rule and let it stand. Yeah it's dumb that Dillon got in that way. But its the system they created and the lack of rules and/or vague rules that let him do that. And the worst part is the Nascar will use this for promotional material in the future even though these were "actions detrimental to stock car racing".
@YankeeDoodle227 күн бұрын
@Twinspinner Joey brad and denny have all done that
@pingdis27 күн бұрын
Well, it's their show, period; start your own racing series.
@DannyWalker24727 күн бұрын
Did Dale Jr just call Austin Dillon a liar about the collision with Denny Hamlin? Austin came on with Jr and explained that he was just trying to get his car headed toward the finish line when they collided.
@pinkannabanana349327 күн бұрын
I think if the spotter had kept his mouth shut and not told Dillion to wreck Joey which was very clear on the radio. He might could have got away with it. Yes, Austin came on the show and tried to cover what happened with Denny. Not about what happened to Joey when he intentionally wrecked him and if that makes him a liar then oh well.
@princemay7327 күн бұрын
Read the motorsport article on the incident and you’ll understand who’s lying and who’s right
26 күн бұрын
If you see the overhead shot, it is clear Dillon did not move down the track, he held his line, Denny shot up the track trying to block him, lots of room on the bottom, it was not a necessary move, but Denny can't control himself, Denny being the NASCAR/Toyota spokesperson, and punishment controller, knows he can do anything and get away with it.
@tmmyjay26 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@adamheckelman841926 күн бұрын
It seems as though "Have at it boys!" went away as they introduced a car that absolutely requires them to race exactly with that mind set.
@SEOKLADUCKIN27 күн бұрын
HATE THE PLAYOFFS HATE THE DAMN CAR
@codybowdoin972327 күн бұрын
Amen NOTHING else needs to be said
@kawai9910027 күн бұрын
Very true.
@ikaros420327 күн бұрын
Simple as.
@zacharyfranklin651027 күн бұрын
I started watching in late 80s. Hard to watch now days. Rather watch late models and WOO
@gothard527 күн бұрын
They stfu and stop watching!!!
@fox4guy27 күн бұрын
Dillon got nailed under the playoff eligibility rule. What happens if someone who is already playoff eligible from a previous win does what Dillon did?
@dirtyair630527 күн бұрын
They won’t and AD wouldn’t have if he wasn’t desperate for the spot.
@Mr_Dopey27 күн бұрын
He left out, Dillon's spotter is suspended for the season. He was shouting, "wreck him," on the radio.
@giraffesareselfish956327 күн бұрын
Dillon isn't suspended from the playoffs, he just has to win one of the next 3 races without running over another driver
@kspice280327 күн бұрын
Use your brain it's not hard
@scottyoung741427 күн бұрын
They would then just lose the playoff points they got from the win. Not very hard.
@roberthughes390527 күн бұрын
If Dillion is in, then that puts Wallace in a spot where he might not make the playoffs. NASCAR can't have that given Wallace is in every NASCAR commercial, is interviewed every week at every race, and is always picked as a potential longshot winner every weekend.
@patrickmurphy244327 күн бұрын
They literally had points tracker just for him last year its so blatant
@kj590524 күн бұрын
NASCAR reparations
@albertpfaff668627 күн бұрын
Dale … my Question is , if Dillon had already won one race so far this season … what would the penalty or outcome be under that scenario ??? I’d love to hear your take on this going forward… Speak pro active to the curve of NASCAR , before NASCAR has to make such decisions !!!
@servantofthemosthigh744327 күн бұрын
So let’s get this straight - NASCAR tells fans to come see the action. Short track racing at its best. Come see the best stock car drivers on earth battle for a win. And then literally send the message to the competitors “Do not make contact! Do not race, stay in line, contact is prohibited! We will fine you and disqualify you.” Remind me, as a fan, why I want to buy tickets (or tune in) to watch a parade.
@ayrton4227 күн бұрын
No one is saying do not make contact. He wasn't even penalized for dumping Logano.
@jeffb.317427 күн бұрын
exactly. contact, ok. taking someones air, ok. Driving thru soneone is bs. If they allowed this to stand, why would any driver want to lead a race?@ayrton42
@mlwilliam21327 күн бұрын
“Don’t make contact” is a lot different than “don’t put everyone else’s life at risk.” He wasn’t close enough to legitimately move the #22. What he did was closer to pinball than it was to racing.
@aaronhobart622327 күн бұрын
The dude completely dive bomb that turn more than anyone has ever done it’s the right call . And Austin would have been a wasted spot in the playoffs anyway.. but what I really like to know is the data on Ricky car wtf was that
@DaBaltimoron27 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's what happened 🙄
@GohanKanor26 күн бұрын
Days after the rounds are fired, both the Secret Service and NASCAR provide statements.
@user-pn1ty9en6q27 күн бұрын
This is absolutely wrong Joey and Hamlin have done the same thing in other races so why do they get a break but not Dillon. It's a older races club against the younger races club and the rules are different from club to club
@redhunter6827 күн бұрын
In what race has denny or hamlin intentionally sent two cars into the wall in separate instances, in the same corner, for the win? I'll wait.
@giraffesareselfish956327 күн бұрын
@@redhunter68I will wait with you. How's it going?
@DizzyIzzy-ze6hh27 күн бұрын
Dalinton and pocono
@jeremiahcole254227 күн бұрын
@@redhunter68 denny or hamlin? wtf
@user-pn1ty9en6q27 күн бұрын
I am so glad you have time to kill. I will have to check my facts on how denny and Hamlin were running in the same race in 2 different cars to wreck so they could win. By the way I think denny and Hamlin are the same person so if he was racing in 2 different cars in the same race he can see the line in the sand .
@j_e_hill27 күн бұрын
In other words, the hail melon thing saved NASCAR because they could apply that new rule in this case
@roymcdre918027 күн бұрын
Actions detrimental has been a rule for over 20 years lol
@jamesdouthat399927 күн бұрын
He pulled a Chastain but instead of using the wall to stop him from wrecking he used the ass end laganos car knowing that there was no way he was going to make the turn without wrecking him
@aaronhobart622327 күн бұрын
This is totally different from what Ross did try to come up with a better idea
@ethanweeter273227 күн бұрын
@@aaronhobart6223What Ross did was dangerous too though.
@Tom-ki3lq27 күн бұрын
And they changes the rule for the next race NOT THAT RACE after that t had happened. In this case they changed the enforcement of the rule after the fact. What’s next during the next race they decide only red cars can win? Absurd but you get my point
@PeachStateATV27 күн бұрын
Guess they want the race to be as boring as the first 399 miles😢
@user-mm1se7gy7e27 күн бұрын
Joey Linguini doesn't like it when his tactics are used on HIM !
@deejay435127 күн бұрын
Joey races hard yes, uses the bump and run and block tactics, but has never in all the years I have been watching DELIBERATELY tried driving thru another car - - same goes for Hamlin - - - I am not a Hamlin fan anyway, but still he didn't deserve that either.
@tracyhooker-pd7nz27 күн бұрын
@@deejay4351, so hooking the in the left rear that Joey does quite often and the other driver ends up in the wall, that’s okay! Okay, yup this clears it up completely!
@darylb556427 күн бұрын
The way I see it is he either won the race or he didn’t. What’s the point of giving him the win and taking away everything associated with the win? It feels like a race without a winner to me.
@scottu994527 күн бұрын
This is where my big gripe is as well! If you feel he 'crossed the line' then your decision should have been to remove him as the winner! THAT'S why everyone raises eyebrows when they make decisions like this. Also, I know there are things to look at, but it should NEVER take 3 days to make this decision! That's ridiculous! IMO, the only possible 'infraction' in my eyes was him not lifting and hitting the 22 - I think the contact with the 11 wasn't intentional. But, NASCAR will continue to be NASCAR - wishy washy and inconsistent. As for the 22's fine and Jr's point about there shouldn't have been so many people on pit road - while I agree there shouldn't have been that many people on pit road wish so many cars still running - the fact is, there WERE a lot of people and the 22 clearly could see that. I think endangering people like that deserves a suspension or a MUCH larger fine! I reiterate - you can't let him keep the win and decide it's not a 'playoff eligible' win. It's a DQ or it isn't - it CAN'T be both!!!!
@darylb556427 күн бұрын
@@scottu9945 it takes a few days for NASCAR to make these decisions. They have to figure out what the media and the fans are thinking so they can render a decision that pisses off the maximum number of people. I think they’ve knocked it out of the park with this decision!
@brandynnryann466325 күн бұрын
YOU GOT IT!!! Meaningless jargon to satisfy two crybabies who would have done the same thing and a woke public opinion sensitivity!! We are witnessing the slow death of NASCAR that is self inflicted by the management team.
@darylb556425 күн бұрын
@@scottu9945 the decision must take3 days. That’s the only way NASCAR has the time to gauge public opinion and come up with a solution that angers the maximum number of people. There’s an old saying that goes regardless of what you do you can’t piss off everyone ( something like that). NASCAR responded with hold my beer! With this one decision I think they’ve managed to piss off everyone
@Raybowlen27 күн бұрын
Amazing how a man can talk for 20 minutes and never say anything. A true politician, so afraid of retaliation from NASCAR that he can’t say the truth.
@stephenlea576527 күн бұрын
I didn’t listen past 4 minutes. It’s the same with Dave Moody on SiriusXM. He NEVER sides against NASCAR.
@CKYmoto27 күн бұрын
@urtriggered2because anyone who disagrees with dale junyer is a bad human
@johnchambers138027 күн бұрын
By unique you mean that Nascar, after all the rules, has the final say. Like most businesses these days it all comes down to ignore the rules we have in place, and take everything on a case by case basis.
@TheTeeeej27 күн бұрын
Dale sounds bought and paid for. Let’s continue to pick and choose what the rules are.
@StillMe6927 күн бұрын
Dale proved that when he interviewed Elliot Sadler. He was worried about 'the powers that be' and Elliot said he didn't gaf.
@mackmckinney951727 күн бұрын
@urtriggered2 $$$$$$$$$$ buys a lot!!!!!!!
@lisabroadway196227 күн бұрын
Dale has turned into a Democrat p!!
@angelbonilla667326 күн бұрын
Jr isnt allowed to state that what happens that weekend was unforeseen or unexpected… he grew up watching his dad do just what Dillon did.
@ronniemckee885027 күн бұрын
Who paid Wrecky Stenhouse to bring out the caution!
@stevefarthing874527 күн бұрын
😂😂😂Wrecky Stenhouse! HAHAH I LIKE THAT ONE.
@GlockMan-oj2ik27 күн бұрын
That’s what I was thinking
@WindRider127 күн бұрын
Wrecky Spinhouse spun the 41 on purpose because a RCR car was going to win. (Kyle Busch)
@MatinaKorakianitis27 күн бұрын
@@WindRider1 thats so true , couldnt stand to see someone at his level win a race
@VladimirBlarp27 күн бұрын
@@WindRider1 Wrecky drives a Chevy, he's not gonna purposely cause a yellow to allow a Ford or Toyota a chance at the victory
@kamakazi83227 күн бұрын
This is wrong u have to let the driver police an work this out
@mattdaniel239527 күн бұрын
Bring back the 90s nascar formula. It was the fastest growing sport in america. It was rich with tv coverage and excitment. It was great to be a nascar fan. I took a Hiatus from nascar for a few years and just now getting back into it
@ricwestdoesitwork27 күн бұрын
Hamlin moved up the track on Dillion. That wreck wasn’t Dillion’s fault.
@ScottG9127 күн бұрын
False, smt data shows diffrent
@piercem2627 күн бұрын
@@ScottG91He turned his wheel to counteract Hamlin going towards the wall. It’s not like he turned his wheel with a 3ft gap and changed his path of travel into Hamlin’s rear panel.
@joe227727 күн бұрын
@piercem26 Guess they are saying that Hamlin was in the "race line" and Dillon came down into the line and made contact with Hamlin. 🤷♂️
@codybowdoin972327 күн бұрын
Nope not at all
@rockywooton261427 күн бұрын
Exactly 💯
@terrybrewer429627 күн бұрын
Was never an issue, that I can remember, for the former driver of the 3 car for doing pretty much the same thing.
@jonjonbeats971227 күн бұрын
My point
@randyclaflin280127 күн бұрын
Dale never hit everything between him and the finish line to get a win. Dillon isn't Earnhardt. You can't compare the two.
@terrybrewer429627 күн бұрын
@@randyclaflin2801 It's not comparing the two. Just saying it wasn't an issue before, why is it now? Oh, and you're incorrect about Sr. He dumped a few to get a win.
@Booker.T27 күн бұрын
Hey dummy, they didn't have a playoff system back then.
@danielfair467527 күн бұрын
@terrybrewer4296 its called The Pussifacation of America.
@allenspence737127 күн бұрын
I was a NASCAR fan again, but after 2 days, I am out. Back to being a casual fan....
@jrarcher-ts3ej27 күн бұрын
Been nascar fan since i was a kid. Inconsistent calls by nascar jr your wrong integerity been gone from this sport for years. To many examples to pick one
@kenparrish317627 күн бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned pit road. No one but crew members should be across the wall. Wives standing around with baby’s is just insane.
@garthinflorida512427 күн бұрын
That one official at the end...he was the definition of irate.
@alvertharmer694327 күн бұрын
Having a baby in the pits is wild. Maybe post race once everyone is at their haulers...something like that would never be allowed to happen at tracks in NJ...you gotta be 16 to get in the pits and it's heavily enforced
@doncegas968727 күн бұрын
That should have been decided on Sunday night by NASCAR, not 3 days later..
@suzymcclung954527 күн бұрын
They caved to the pressure of the prima dona drivers....disgusting.
The rule should be, ok to move a car, not ok to wreck a car. Dillon did what was expected because that rule wasn't in place.
@tombrenemanMt27 күн бұрын
He did just what Dale Sr. Did many times
@johnhopkins656527 күн бұрын
@@tombrenemanMtnot to that extent. Big E would wreck you and you swore a Mack truck had hit you, but when you look at your car you could find no clue that he had ever touched you.
@mateojohns0527 күн бұрын
problem is you can't measure intent tho, there's some situations (like this one) that are blatantly obvious and drivers should be penalized for those 100%. but then something like logano and kenseth at kansas could either be argued as a mistake or as intentional and the only "real" way to figure it out is ask joey, he won't say he wrecked someone on purpose if it's gonna get him a penalty lol
@LJHLU27 күн бұрын
He did move two of them!
@Delbert12727 күн бұрын
I agree with you Dale their hand was forced on making a statement. They had to do something. Now if Dillon shows up at Michigan and runs up front it shuts up a lot of people, we all knew he was gonna win. Like you say a line needs to be clearly drawn in the sand and hopefully moving forward a more definitive one will. Great download as always Hey Mike hope your good.
@05grandmarquis27 күн бұрын
Larsons spotter told him to wreck somebody a few races ago and it was on radioactive why wasnt he suspended
@rustywilliams172927 күн бұрын
But he didn't do it🤔
@Sagerat8327 күн бұрын
Maybe because Yung Money is smart enough to not wreck somebody… or maybe he is GOOD enough that he doesn’t have to wreck someone(s) to win.
@05grandmarquis27 күн бұрын
Whats the difference if he did or not the spotter isnt driving the car so his intent is the same either way
@Sagerat8327 күн бұрын
@@05grandmarquisyou make good points
@mikek74927 күн бұрын
The spotter is not driving the car. He should be able to say what he wants.
@SvoenDiccr26 күн бұрын
Dale When asked if you think it was the right option, you come across as a politician. Haha
@adamplace141426 күн бұрын
Inevitable result of "win and you're in."
@lost9413327 күн бұрын
Nascar doomed itself the second they joined in DEI nonsense No not that DEI
@Racingbro198627 күн бұрын
I am fully convinced NASCAR just listens to Junior and makes decisions off him.
@jorgejefferson825127 күн бұрын
I suspect a lot of drivers and non #3 fans thought that Dale Sr. crossed the line more than once back in the day.
@canyouhandlethis_27 күн бұрын
No need to suspect. They did think that and voiced it too lol
@deliriouswhome127 күн бұрын
@@canyouhandlethis_ you ain't lying ..🤣
@robertmann727727 күн бұрын
Yeah, but, AD is no Dale Earnhardt ( no matter what AD thinks of himself)
@deliriouswhome127 күн бұрын
@@robertmann7277 no one's saying Dillon is Earnhardt..
@robjones132827 күн бұрын
@@deliriouswhome1tell Dillon that
@wildbill465527 күн бұрын
NASCAR will make money from the footage of this race for years boo ho
@user-bt8vn3dj6o27 күн бұрын
The $50,000 is chump change!
@TexasAlamo27 күн бұрын
If $ 50k is chimp change, PLEASE send me 50K, you got my address? LOL
@CNC-Time-Lapse27 күн бұрын
There should have been a suspension too... one false mistake and someone is seriously injured. Shoot, Joey revved his engine and did a burnout in from of Dillion's baby! Like what the heck! What a pshyco! What if Dillon's wife tripped and fall backwards and dropped the child... then what? Joey wasn't thinking and seeing red... that is unacceptable!
@kubeanie1827 күн бұрын
@@CNC-Time-LapsePeople were not supposed to be on a hot track. Tbf.
@CNC-Time-Lapse27 күн бұрын
@@kubeanie18 that’s true, but if I see people in the street, my first reaction isn’t going to be to rev my engine and do a burnout in front of them. Joey knew exactly what he was doing. He went out of his way to vent his frustrations and targeted the people from Dillon’s team. If that was done on the street, that’s tantamount to assault with a deadly weapon.
@Sanbar427 күн бұрын
They should "Park" the PUNK Logano!....
@latriciabailey835927 күн бұрын
Austin Dillons win was best lap since Ross Chatains last lap at Martinsville, which by the way was one of the greatest things ever, not just racing but ever ! Chip Bailey.
@venicebeachsportsnetwork667725 күн бұрын
Hamlins win when everyone's tires were going off earlier this year was pretty sweet
@Z06Doug25 күн бұрын
Austin ain't no Dale Sr. or Ross Chastain
@richjunker557525 күн бұрын
So you would rather see some squid like Dillon wreck people to win.
@DarkfireTD25 күн бұрын
BOOO!!!! BOOO!!! Boo, this is a sham of a series, booo!!!
@adamullein272427 күн бұрын
if Dillon only spins out Lagano and not Hamlin does the same ruling come down??
@LVM558427 күн бұрын
No
@SmokeShow996927 күн бұрын
Nope
@ssr196327 күн бұрын
If the #22 would have done this to the #3 they would say it's just racing!! And the #11 came up into the #3 as they were both going for the same line.
@scylentdeth319827 күн бұрын
Jr, what happened at Richmond was most certainly NOT unforeseen or unexpected. We’ve been building up to this for a long time now.
@Stevonoles127 күн бұрын
It is basically a $2,000,000 fine, is it not? That is roughly the difference between the 30s and the top 16 according to Denny.
@johnhopkins656527 күн бұрын
@@Stevonoles1 even more than that if the sponsors on the 3 car have a playoff clause in the contract. Minimum payout for playoff teams in $2mil.
@nathanurick832027 күн бұрын
If the rules were black or white then the call should not have taken this long, it would have been immediately
@philsonnenberg609227 күн бұрын
NASCAR always releases penalties on Tues/Weds. Has nothing to do with the rules being black or white.
@motox94727 күн бұрын
You can't have a rule for every possible scenario. NASCAR put the hammer down here. The only thing I think they left out was stripping him of the race win!
@coltsjason27 күн бұрын
In Indy car it would have been done right then and there
@philsonnenberg609227 күн бұрын
@@coltsjason wrong. Took INDYcar 3 WEEKS to remove Penske from a win and third place.
@philsonnenberg609227 күн бұрын
@@coltsjason also do this crap in an open wheel car and you potentially kill someone
@garyevans482527 күн бұрын
Nascar needs a big change. Stands are never full anymore and races are boring.they should have made this decision before the race was given to the 3 team.
@gold_fox292227 күн бұрын
Glad we had Dale Kronkite here to give us the news coming out of Charlotte. 10/10 reporting lol
@johncarmon952827 күн бұрын
this is dale harvey and now you know the rest of the story 😂
@user-ip6kd6bs4i27 күн бұрын
Right he ain't messing around 😂😂😂❤
@mjacobs813927 күн бұрын
😂
@Mr.Saltwater27 күн бұрын
I am likening this to when Konkrite had to announce the JFK assassination 😂
@craigkemmerzell574127 күн бұрын
Nascar is inconsistent with the rules And they pick and choose when and where 🤔 Nascar has lost its way 😢
@jeannerader134927 күн бұрын
When you intentionally wreck 2 drivers on the last lap - think they got it right.
@ryanbenner696827 күн бұрын
@@jeannerader1349 so it’s okay to wreck 1 driver?
@jeannerader134927 күн бұрын
@@ryanbenner6968 Of course not - but I think 2 really spoke to Nascar.
@V-gw8jt27 күн бұрын
Lost it's way when they caved to baby bubba about the flag
@mackenziegalajda860127 күн бұрын
Also the other insistences weren’t deciding factors to be in playoffs Logano was in when he wrecked logano
@flyingcow926427 күн бұрын
NASCAR has destroyed the sport!!I remember watching dale sr and rusty and Gordon banging wrecking, fighting it was awesome!It's just sad...
@mtsachs26 күн бұрын
and yet the 'old school' fans despise Hamlin and Logano and so on for banging, wrecking, fighting. sweet, sweet hypocrisy. the true detriment to the NASCAR fan.
@amegill27 күн бұрын
Dale you sound like a politician when asked if you thought it was the right decision. Lol
@fanofdejr8827 күн бұрын
Everyone will continue to debate this race’s outcome. But, perhaps everyone can agree that this would not have been an issue if Ricky Stenhouse would’ve kept control of his car for once with 2 laps to go.
@asun4196627 күн бұрын
agreed ugh hes terrible 🤣
@earnestjones243827 күн бұрын
They need to get rid of this playoff platform it sux I've never liked it go back to the way it used to be
@xtbum333927 күн бұрын
The continuous changing of the points system is why I stopped watching Nascar. Cost Gordon a couple more titles.
@jjmckay6man127 күн бұрын
agreed
@John-zh1ud27 күн бұрын
Agreed, best driver over the course of the year should win... the Winston cup system was great and no one questioned if the best driver won.
@truckercowboyed263827 күн бұрын
Get over it Grandpa
@truckercowboyed263827 күн бұрын
@@John-zh1ud really.....im pretty sure you have to still perform well all year and get points to get to the playoffs then you have to avoid three rounds of elimination before you even get to the final 4...wtf are you even talking about it all still matters you're just ignorant
@Timber-Ace27 күн бұрын
The 3 race suspension for the spotter is steep... Dude didn't even provide directional instructions in his exclamation... Clearly about the optics.
@guythurman835527 күн бұрын
I’m canceling my subscription for local tv. No more NASCAR for me. Thank you for saving me $73 per month
@wolfhunter671127 күн бұрын
Oh no! What are they going to do without you?
@ashleyschaper233427 күн бұрын
Appeal it..Joey & Denny have did the same thing several times and got nothing.
@kaytate753326 күн бұрын
Sorry for the typo .I meant NASCAR would probably allowed the playoffs, maybe even gone ahead and declared him the 2024 champion. I would have been happy for him putting him ahead of Richard Petty!
@tmoney764327 күн бұрын
The playoff system promotes desperate moves... then said desperate move happens and NASCAR claims innocence on their part. BS. This is the most talked about NASCAR has been all season.
@bigyodatheman27 күн бұрын
Exactly. You want to get rid of situations like this? Get rid of win and you're in and GWC. Problem solved.
@randyyoung989227 күн бұрын
Remember this when somebody bumps into somebody at Talladega or Daytona and Win it has to be overturned only non-contact wins from now on if you've bumped into somebody during the race no win for you
@dragonboss8827 күн бұрын
You're trying to compare apples to potatoes. There's a difference between a "bump and run" and "dump and run".
@kanyecheedar917027 күн бұрын
Exactly, wish more people had this foresight
@kamakazi83227 күн бұрын
@@dragonboss88no it's no difference your still fckn the guy out of the win that u bump an run or dump an run
@rustywilliams172927 күн бұрын
That happens at talladega from all the blocking
@caseyaylward885325 күн бұрын
Watch in 5 years NASCAR is just going to be just qualifying. NASCAR officials are going to say it's too dangerous to have multiple cars on the track at the same time. Nascar has been completely castrated and they wonder why no one watches it anymore
@robertburns249927 күн бұрын
NASCAR pulled the ultimate chicken sh*t move. Other drivers would have held him accountable. Instead nascar chops of its own foot and sells it for parts.
@marklittle880527 күн бұрын
They would have held him accountable but he is taking a spot in the playoffs from someone who didn't wreck someone to get in. And it is about time NASCAR joined the rest of the racing world and actually having some driving standards rather than saying "Boys Have At It" and letting these guys tear up a ton of race cars. This is crap driving. If you didn't know anything about who was in those cars, had they no numbers and you didn't know who was driving, you would say that was over the line. This was like the idiocy that goes on at Bowman Gray on a Saturday night. At some point if NASCAR wants respect, they have to have some standards and not leave this to the law of the jungle