Disassembly Reassembly DDC Barrow AMD CPU water block integrated pump and reservoir combo LTPRKA-04

[@Cheapphilosophysale]

Thanks for the video! Exactly what I needed after the original pump in my ITX build died.

[@PlagueFumes]

What a perfect video, thank you so much for this

[@JJ-gk5tn]

Protip ! Turn the led strip around and install it like that so it Points inwards not outwards The whole thing will glow Thank me later

[@HardeepSingh-kx6ng]

wait that sounds pretty cool, do you have any images or vids of this done?

[@AlphaWolfKodi]

Dang why didn't I think of that? I knew the lights were spotty and not blending enough.

[@ShaddowDemon]

Thank you so much! My LEDs seem to be the wrong color. I was going to fix it in my next rebuild but dreading having to disassemble it to find out what I need and then waiting for it to arrive after ordering.

[@twinsnakesNT]

exactly what I need, thank you, your channel deserves more views

[@ernestg7466]

Así es que me gusta, desarmar los dispositivos y verificarlos. Gracias por compartir

[@massik1993]

Does anyone noticed that the rpm reading occasionally going crazy lik 15k, and if it's controlled trough a hub the rpm aren't stable, I think the pump's controler isn't good

[@prithvib8662]

Super helpful. Thanks!

[@radicalturkey]

I'm really struggling with this pump. I have the OLED version and can get it to go from 1950 rpm to 4000+ on manual mode, but 1950 is a little loud still. If you change it to PWM by turning down the power, it goes to a nice quiet 1800, but the PWM signal from my mother board making any changes makes it boost to over 3000 and it doesn't come down again. It seems if you turn it to PWM in windows it is fine using something like argus monitor, but when booting from off, the motherboard gives it 100% PWM before post, and the pump screws up and locks it at minimum 3000+ rpm again unless you manually turn it onto PWM again. Sounds confusing and very frustrating! I'm not sure if it's the electronics or the pump, I think the electonics and I'm worried if i change to another pump it still won't work.

[@Travenport]

Sounds like your mobo. Have you gone I to the bios and checked your pwm settings?

[@Mr.Feckless]

Very helpful thanks

[@xerkstyle6272]

does the block support d5 pumps or only ddc pumps ? sorry if my question does not make sense,im new to watercooling.

[@flyordieinafire]

Not a problem. I'm pretty sure DDC and D5 are different shape/sizes so you won't find anything (tops or block wise) out there that will fit both. Most places you can filter down to one or the other.

[@Soda480Place]

Thanks for the video, it was really helpful. Regarding the LED strip, can it be plugged into a standard motherboard fan header? or does it require a motherboard with an RGB header?

[@flyordieinafire]

Don't plug into a fan header!!!!! They sell a converter to 5V RGB header. There's even a little tag telling you not to plug into motherboard fan header. I think they used that connector for convenience, but is only confusing to end users. There is a label on the converter and the led strip's connector that says "5V lighting interface" on one side and on the other says "Do not connect to the motherboard interface of 12V FAN" I've posted pictures of this label here: imgur.com/a/rmfUjlv This was the USA ebay vendor I used who sells the converter: www.ebay.com/itm/Barrow-5v-RGB-Adapter-Lrc-2-0-ZBDZJX-5-IN-STOCK-USA/303575876543

[@Soda480Place]

@@flyordieinafire Thanks again for the information. Too bad Barrow doesn't include all the wiring to make the lighting work out of the box. I purchased the adapter, and swapped out the pump with my Swiftech MCP35x. This is a really nice piece of hardware! An aside, I've been admiring your screw driver, what brand is it ? Thanks again.

[@flyordieinafire]

@@Soda480Place Glad to help! It came with an iPhone repair kit www.amazon.com/dp/B00SURH7W4/

[@julio121403]

Great video! ♥

[@TheGwarGaru]

Build quality looks good. O.o

[@chewbaccasaurusrex692]

Is there supposed to be a thermal pad in-between the pump components and it's heatsink or else I imagine it doesn't really do anything to take heat away from the pump ?

[@chewbaccasaurusrex692]

Asking about the stock pump on the block before you changed it out

[@flyordieinafire]

@@chewbaccasaurusrex692 I don't believe there was. This was the first time I opened the packaging. I haven't played back this video in a few months so I don't recall. If you didn't see one in the disassembly then there wasn't. Most aftermarket metal housing I think have something to help reduce heat to prolong the life of the electronics.

[@virpz]

Nice video ! All my laing DDC pumps ( four ) are 10+ years old and they are all atill going strong. I wonder how many of those chinese knock offs will reach that mark.

[@flyordieinafire]

Another user mentioned theirs had a rattle out of the box. So it's probably hit or miss likely a miss.

[@virpz]

@@flyordieinafire Damn. Also did I miss it or there was in fact no heatpad between pcb and heatsink ?

I'm trying to make a custom cable because the default one is way too bulky. Do you know what is that 6-pin connector they use?

Looks like a JST EH connector, but I'm not sure...

[@roberteenkhoorn2632]

The Barrow pump also has PWM. At least mine does.

[@flyordieinafire]

My connections are like to this video's kzbin.info/www/bejne/e2S7cqhre9GksNk

[@flyordieinafire]

Here is someone else's imgur on the parts the block comes with: imgur.com/gallery/izA9uD0 From this thread: www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/ic43es/the_barrow_blockpump_came_in_today/

[@davids8345]

Nice! What's the deal with 90 degree rotation for AMD vs Intel? Looks like it can be configured either way? Also any flow or noise numbers for the pump swap?

[@flyordieinafire]

Thanks for the comment. With the Intel mount (I don't have) you can mount either way without issue, but with AMD the Reservoir/ports section of the acrylic block two of the AMD mount holes so you can only mount sideways either way. Optimum Tech shows close up of intel mount here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXOsiJqBotylbJo Alta's Project shows the AMD mounting here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sITJpHmiltxqq68 Original pump looks to have a potentiometer dial to adjust speed and the MCP35x is PWM controlled. I won't have flow or noise numbers for this pump swap for like a month. I'll post another video. Currently waiting on GPU waterblock preorder. In the meantime I'm test/dry fitting the parts I do have to sort out what other parts I need to order.

[@davids8345]

@@flyordieinafire sorry, let me rephrase my question :).. I have an AMD block (like yours)... What's stopping me from pulling it apart and reinstalling the mounting bracket with a 90degree offset? From your video it looks like that will work just fine?

[@flyordieinafire]

Here's an imgur album (at the end of this post) . Does this help answer your question? You'll notice two of the mounting slots in the bracket are blocked by the reservoir area. They could offest the acrylic drilling and offset the bracket to compensated for this, but as is it's symetical and the reservoir is in the way. Alternatively if they made the widge just the G 1/4 width they could make the reservoir section shallower but maybe they didn't do that because of the G 1/4 Threads. imgur.com/a/uMywI8f

[@davids8345]

@@flyordieinafire ahh I see, damn why didn't they offset the whole thing by a few mm....ok, so basically someone needs to laser cut a new mounting plate... Thanks again for the pics/explanation

[@flyordieinafire]

@@davids8345 np. A new mount plate also means mount on die/cpu will be offset. Probably not a deal breaker especially if it's the difference between mounting and not fitting.

[@Silverturky]

Can this pump be powered with a motherboard header?

[@flyordieinafire]

At 6:30 I pickup the connector. I believe it requires a four pin molex for power and fan motherboard header just for fan speed info.

[@jakoorie]

You can rewire the connector to a 4 pin and get rid of the speed controller. The pump PCB has the pin out on it but the motor needs 1.5 amps, make sure your MB header supplies that

[@GarryHuta]

Did you ever test the swiftech pump if it seals correctly and works great?

[@flyordieinafire]

Project stalled. 😩 Was waiting on parts before I could finish build. Haven't gotten back to work on it now that I've got everything in. 🤷‍♂️

[@Chris-zq8qv]

Do you think a Laing DDC310 would be a direct replacement?

[@flyordieinafire]

Yes it's a DDC. I think all DDC have the same footprint.

[@edwardreyes5952]

Can you use the fill port as the inlet? It looks like both go to the same spot?

[@flyordieinafire]

Yes. Both work for inlet and fill. Optimum Tech used the fill port in his build. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXOsiJqBotylbJo

[@eastcoastmodz5195]

One suggestion: If you don't want to use 90* fitting 12:50 you can remove the pump, install your fittings then replace the pump properly without crushing the O ring. Cheers.

[@GarryHuta]

how are your rotary fittings that smooth? My bitspower and barrow rotaries are so damn stiff.

[@flyordieinafire]

Machined two pieces. That's how they can be that small. Unless you're talking about the bigger EK rotary fittings. Big fan of the classic EK 90 rotary.

[@abzaman77]

Which brand of DDC pump they are using..? I meant the OEM.

[@flyordieinafire]

I suspect it's their own brand. It has the Barrow metal external and their custom connector and cable for the potentiometer for speed control. I'll take a look at the stickers but I think they are just like QC and stuff.

[@abzaman77]

@@flyordieinafire thanks you so much. I'm waiting to hear more from you.

[@flyordieinafire]

@@abzaman77 I found the connector, but not the pump. I'll see if I can find it this weekend.

[@flyordieinafire]

Finally found the pump hiding in a big bag of fittings. It has a QC and Date sticker. I haven't googled the PCB label but here is what it looks like. imgur.com/a/XKl7TGL

[@pony029]

You don't have fear to galvanic corrosion? I think the lateral metal plate it's aluminium...

[@flyordieinafire]

I do. I was hoping premix would prevent that, but I'm also thinking about replacing it with another material. Being rectangular I should be able to reproduce the side and mount holes in another metal. But what other metal? The "aluminum alloy" mention on almost everything barrow makeshas turned me off using most any other part from them.

[@flyordieinafire]

I just remembered the jet plate! I'll have to replace that as well

[@FilthyCasual_Jhn20v29]

It would be nice and worth the extra cost if all the materials were brass/copper but I don’t think you need to really worry about corrosion if you’re using a treated liquid. Aios get away with mixing metals all the time and don’t have an issue.

[@flameboss555]

dude chill chill aluminium should only be on the outside and not catching water itself..... i have many barrow watercooling stuff the aluminuim alway outside for cosmetic . I been use mix of barrow ek hardwarelab freezemod bykski and mayhem bioside+inhibitor plus for more than half years with no problem at all in myloop with 4radiator. i just tear my loop 2week ago and it still look news. and for jet plate Stainless steel.....don't worry about it almost every cpu block brand have it. In the video the bracket look like it might touch water but i if screw is tight it shouldn't be problem.

[@flyordieinafire]

@@flameboss555 The mounting bracket won't touch water. The concern is the jet plate and reservoir's metal side wall. Neither are magnetic.

[@radityaindera3442]

Is it the same pump they use for their pump reso combo? People said it's only good for ITX builds but I'm thinking to use this for ATX builds (360 rads, longer tubing). Do you think it'll work just fine?

[@flyordieinafire]

I don't know. I already had the MCP35x on hand and I can control with PWM on the machine. I've already swapped out the stock pump. Stock pump has manual potentiometer for speed adjustments.

[@flyordieinafire]

Here is someone else's imgur on the parts the block comes with: imgur.com/gallery/izA9uD0 From this thread: www.reddit.com/r/sffpc/comments/ic43es/the_barrow_blockpump_came_in_today/

[@branchyaboy]

@@flyordieinafireIt looks like the tape was left on that thermal pad of the MCP35x

[@flyordieinafire]

@@branchyaboyyea I left the plastic on one side. I've since replaced the heatsink and thermal pad. Will be another upload next month.

[@lomisme]

Is it possible to use an mcp50x for this swap or would it be incompatible?

[@virpz]

The chinese copies have pretty much the same dimensions as laing DDC pumps.

[@delivera]

Ты собрал водоблок неправильно.

[@flyordieinafire]

At one point, yes I did assemble the waterblock incorrectly.

[@massik1993]

I love when people care 🙂