DISASTER ! BIG RC Super Puma suffers Engine Failure ! SCALE HELICOPTER CRASH | ProWing 2023

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[@hankramos8663]

THANK YOU CAMERA MAN!! You had one job and you performed it admirably!...unlike the vast majority of epic fail type posts on KZbin.

[@dougaltolan3017]

Who knew that landscape was so easy to do?

[@KSGnG]

This gave me hope immediately upon clicking the video

[@cerealkiller9076]

I've crashed plenty of professional rc helis and I've never seen one crash that gracefully!! No boom strike, rotors didn't touch, no rollover, just a plop on the ground and skided to a stop. Nicely done.

[@phoenixsui]

Damn he was so unlucky it happend as hestarted turning and not in astraight forward flight with more speed.

[@pj_pfrommer5492]

Look at the tail closely:/

[@mikemurphy7711]

I wonder if this size model could auto-rotate enough to help landing, or could any size model do it?

[@forton615]

@@mikemurphy7711 You can autorotate almost everything but the smallest helis, he made a mistake by pulling up and keeping positive pitch for a fraction of a second (to try to turn away to avoid people?), don't know how this one was set up or how heavy it was but I have seen some pretty big rc helis autorotate perfectly time after time. Also from that height it's more like using rotor inertia than autorotating. I almost always switch of my motor before landing and you would be surprised how far a heli can glide before touching the grass and sliding it out.

[@bryanwilliams4620]

There was a boom strike alright, it struck the ground when it folded.

[@proprotornut5389]

Damn! That's sad to see such a beautiful model crash.😢

[@thebikemike]

What I did learn from this video: Dont call your first Heli "Search & Rescue"

[@KrustyKlown]

they all crash eventually, rebuilding them is 1/2 the fun

[@darioinfini]

@@KrustyKlown That's what separates the real modelers from the admirers. Real modelers love rebuilding. People who don't love rebuilding (like myself) don't stay in the hobby. It's simply too heartbreaking for us.

[@KrustyKlown]

@@darioinfini Or you put your model on the Shelf for display, afraid that flying it is too dangerous. (Me, lol)

[@darioinfini]

@@KrustyKlown I have an RC sailboat on my mantle. It's very pretty but I got tired of uncommanded sail-aways so she's permanently dry-docked LOL.

[@12345fowler]

The elasticity of the boom during the crash is very astonishing.

[@darkracer1252]

oh that broke.

[@dwmzmm]

Wow, I can feel the pain of the crash; having been a model rocketeer since 1969 I've had a number of heartbreaking (and expensive) crashes myself. Excellent and beautiful builds on those models shown! Hopefully it can be repaired and flown again. Good luck!

[@rcrega7456]

Traurig, einfach nur traurig, dass diese tolle Maschine abgestürzt ist. Ich hoffe Pilot Thomas findet den Elan, seine Super-Puma wieder in die Luft zu bringen. Viel Erfolg!

[@chrisruthford4492]

That is heartbreaking 😭 hope he can put her back together.

[@itsaustraliadayeveryday7234]

Camera job was fantastic, it was so good it took all my attention up had to watch again to admire the craft. sad ending but well worth it. Good job all round thanks for uploading.

[@EssentialRC]

Thank you very much!

[@itsaustraliadayeveryday7234]

@@EssentialRC cheers

[@dr_jaymz]

That head speed decayed really quick. Its mostly in one piece and stayed upright, so the prognosis is good. I bet though the amount of things broken will go on and on everywhere you look!

[@allan1353]

I was thinking maybe he gave + collative that caused the decreased rotor speed

[@marineboy6033]

What a shame - but also what an amazingly well built model to suffer so little damage...

[@alishanmao]

Man that was such a beautiful machine.

[@phoenixsui]

I love the Swiss Super Puma, i worked on the Swiss main heli base for a while. Awesome machines. This RC pilot is clearly very skilled, and propably also trained for such scenarios as he should befor using this machines. A Autorotation landing should be in every helicopter pilots skillbook. If he had more airspeed at the point of the failure or more hight he could have landed it with no damage if lucky.

[@IceMan2035]

Hope he can repair it. I know its was a tough hit but at least most of it's intact.

[@danizweifler6061]

V I S U A L L Y intact............ = you are guessing a lot my dear Chris ! !

[@IceMan2035]

I lost a Hanger 9 P51 due to a rudder servo malfunction. You hope for the best and plan for the worst.

[@PUBHEAD1]

Horrific to see the little pilot thrown from the wreckage

[@Patcracks718]

lmao!

[@Gunslinger1875]

I know..😁

[@stevenjohnson4283]

The little ambulance came soon after and took him to the big doll house for some surgery by Dr Barbi!

[@auwz66]

I crashed my RC helicopters a few times, its amazing how much damage can be done even in a small crash. Everything bends and twists. I gave up on helis in the end and went down the sport drone route in the end. Then back to fixed wing. Its not a cheap sport!

[@jimsmalleimb7709]

Damned shame. Such a gorgeous model.

[@RobWhittlestone]

Beautiful model. I used to work at Dübendorf airfield where i saw the real ones fly every day.

[@Deano1948]

Full scale, please. They are all real, just some are scaled differently!

[@DoubleA115]

Amazing little machine. Hope the biggest part of it survived.

[@julesdomes6064]

Lucky it didn't roll over. Maybe the drive line and rotors are OK?

[@user-cb1vo1ik4b]

sorry this happened... in slow motion you can see the internal structure buckling on impact including pilot ejection

[@anthonypope2106]

Looks like the pilot stalled it. Probably best to keep the same heading and attempt a controlled descent for flare

[@phoenixsui]

Yeah a autorotation is what they call it. keep the speed up so the blades keep tunring and close to the ground use the remaining rotor speed to land it. Real pilots practice this a lot. I thinki he was unlucky it happend just as he wanted to turn in.

[@yuk-erkmckirk9277]

If you cared to read the title you would know it was an engine failure,if you cared to watch it all you can see in the slowmo that the tail rotor speed drops then the main rotor stalls ,engine/gearbox failure.

[@M-H433]

​@@yuk-erkmckirk9277 thankyou cared for your caring words,take care now😅

[@aloysiusjones3985]

That door roll incredible. Thankfully no farmers were damaged with this crash. 🇦🇺👍🍺

[@LZE.]

That unpowered steep turn was fatal. Correct application of auto-rotation could of saved that.

[@peterhauser3316]

And you woud have?????????? Knowing and doeing are different

[@jamescooper5183]

​@@peterhauser3316 I could of saved it, he was still in positive pitch when the motor died 😂

[@MiniBuster2]

@@peterhauser3316 Everyone does mistakes, but that does not mean that nobody can say what the pilot SHOULD have done!

[@gavinrichardson3918]

It's all very well saying "he could have done this he could have done that" He had 2 seconds notice and by the time he realised he was loosing it, it had already started falling at low altitude! Quite frankly I'm surprised he saved it to the extent he did! If it had come down in that bank angle it would have done far more damage!

[@MiniBuster2]

@@gavinrichardson3918 Nobody says its easy to do the right thing in a situation like that. But there is NO reason to act like an asshole just because someone states a fact!

[@johansomeone1948]

To me it looks as if it ran out of fuel. The engine just stopped. 😮😢

[@trevorcook4078]

It sounded like an electric motor to me.

[@warbuzzard7167]

@@trevorcook4078 Turbine

[@trevorcook4078]

@@warbuzzard7167 Are you sure it sounds like electric to me?

[@gsp911]

Aw, it hurts every time I see an RC crash. 🙁 You just know that a lot of hours and money have gone into it.

[@NorthernStruggler]

The components look like many will be salvageable. Excellent Landing.

[@JamesLewis-mp9zn]

Excellent pilot skills in the crash. Well done.

[@chrisklueppel83]

I would sasy he had more luck than skills. The motor was off, he pulls the nose up, trys to perform a turn to come back. Better: Nose down, pitch to a fast but moderate sinking, gaining speed, make a flare to gain rpms and touch down more smothe than this. I had a similar problem with my airwolf once! I had only some cracks in the painting, because I landed without gears out. For a 600 size helicopter, 4,8 kg is not verry light and a rotor-speed of 1200 rpm is not much, so I had no reserves and it works. A well trained pilot knows everytime how to performe an autorotation! This wasn't one

[@digrannirctruck3771]

Uma pena um modelo tão belo, espero que consiga arrumar e voltar a voar

[@giovannisalvaggio3702]

What a pity!!!! But is the model (borrowing for spare parts) recoverable?

[@charlesdempewolf6861]

I'm not an RC helo guy, so excuse my ignorance. Question(s) - Do RC helos have the ability to auto rotate to any degree? And, would the auto rotate to the ground have been more successful if he had not been in a banked turn? Thanks...

[@ConnorCain25]

Yes mate, they have the ability to auto rotate, what should of happened is the Heli should have been corrected to level flight and then he could have autorotated. The banked turn would have killed his head speed making it impossible to recover. This is easier said than done as most RC pilots panic and forget how to auto rotate hence why it needs to be practiced heavily until its second nature. He was also very low to the ground so he may not have even had enough height to auto rotate

[@charlesdempewolf6861]

@@ConnorCain25 Thank you!!

[@judd_s5643]

@@ConnorCain25 I agree! He bled off what energy he had pitching up and rolling left. The only reason to do this if he had spectators in-line and as you say not practicing it. Real helicopter pilots practice and practice so it’s second nature. As a fix wing pilot I think those that fly helicopters are crazy. There are just too many parts that fail will cause a meeting with Jesus!

[@ConnorCain25]

@@judd_s5643 indeed, especially the bolt holding the entire rotor head onto the main shaft. Aptley names the Jesus bolt 😂

[@carycoller3140]

RIP to the little plastic pilot. He kept it in the air as long as he could.

[@jdplus3]

I have been flying RC since the 1970s. I Have lost countless planes. This is precisely why I like to have less than $200 in the air at any given time… too much heartbreak. That’s not fun to me.

[@rce-motion7665]

How sad - this was the machine of Thomas Baumann. Looks like the ESC switched off (may be overheated or Lipo battery voltage dropped quickly and made the ESC switch off?). Strange as the switch off was not in an extremely power-demanding situation, hope it was not due to a "power off" function accidentally activated in the Jeti Transmitter when a battery alarm occurs. Have a 2.5 Meter Heli Baumann Puma myself and the crash is indeed heartbreaking! 😢Fortunately Heli Baumann has a professional team so I am sure they will re-bulid an even nicer one soon! 😊

[@EssentialRC]

Definitely electric then, not turbine?! My mistake 🙄

[@black_baron_net]

☠BLACK BARON☠ The outer temperatures seemed to be moderate if folks were wearing winter like jackets. I would exclude temperatures around or slightly under +50°C. One not well balanced cell can already cause lots of trouble. Software issue? But, definitely, it's the ESC switching off ... soft cutoff. Thomas, rebuild it and make an even better one. That's the challenge. Better use over-powered ESCs than under-powered ESCs. Use slightly over-powered cool running motors. Not more (A)mps, less (A)mps is the challenge.

[@Emanemoston]

Thanks for the video.

[@HeliShed]

Oh my days - gutted. By pitching up at that altitude on motor stop, any chance of an auto rotate was gone. A bit higher in altitude and a nose down approach woulda worked. Damn shame here. Damn shame!

[@brahmdempers1005]

agreed 100%. drop the colective ,nose down,try to keep the forward momentum, then flare few meter above the ground.

[@JustMeTalking]

What an absolute beast of a Toy...

[@kilitciali1230]

the accident was so sad it was a great model and show I hope it won't happen again 👍

[@bgrant1512]

Thats a shame. The second the engine quit he should have straightened out and setup his auto rotation. Pulling into that climbing turn guaranteed a crash.

[@XKclassHater]

Almost a decent autorotation landing. Homie must've been too shocked to react properly. Hope it gets rebuilt stronger

[@alanjm1234]

As early in your flying as possible, it's important to learn how to auto rotate.

[@Stubbies2003]

Bad luck on the timing of the fail given the move he was pulling. Still managed to land it wheels down so props on that.

[@koceilamehalaine6328]

No auto rotation. Rotor has almost no inertia+ that last second manover didn't help...

[@BigDuke6ixx]

Dead man's curve. He should got out of that bank and dropped the nose.

[@EssentialRC]

Yup. The turn was fatal but was fairly low anyway.

[@rjds1800]

Our 30 secs before the motor failed the model looked like it was twitching or jerking around in the air? Maybe it was gusting or turbulence but it was flying on rails upto that point? Would love to know what the pilots assessment was before it crashed. Either way it's always gutting to see hard work getting smashed up.

[@ronwade5433]

The heli pilots at our flight field in west Phoenix learned early on not to try auto rotation.

[@Fantastic_mule74]

best rc channel

[@woltervandenberg]

I witnessed this crash live at ProWing. The whole flight felt sketchy and underpowered but after that motor quit the pilot did everything to make sure he crashed as hard as possible.

[@darioinfini]

Yeah the pitch up and bank after engine failure seemed like a bold move LOL.

[@phoenixsui]

I guess he just wanted to turn as next move and then it happend. You need some training and or reflexes to decide in that situation quick enough.

[@juliogonzo2718]

How much was that rc helicopter worth?

[@feelincrispy7053]

Well at least the rotor didn’t smash into the ground. That’s a plus

[@The_Privateer]

Interesting to see the RC version of an auto-rotation controlled landing

[@starchaser2489]

Nice blend of Kevlar and carbon fiber. Not many piece's leftover.

[@kimber1911]

Excellent auto rotation procedure. Pilot survives and walks away.

[@EJ-74]

​@@markdavis7397 Right 😂

[@kimber1911]

@@markdavis7397 well that ain't good.

[@tennriverluver3534]

Oh man that looks EXPENSIVE!😪

[@electriccoconut]

Sorry it was going so well very impressive.

[@edwinthomas618]

I CRINGE when I see a fellow scale pilot go down. That was weird for him not not to maintain a little forward flight and autorate rather than trying to bank left and upwards ...unless it went into fail safe.

[@colinboneham7387]

Ouch that’s going to an expensive repair job

[@Soldierboy1986]

Almost a perfect time to auto rotate, although I don’t think you had the altitude, and the forward momentum to really accomplish it, and your reaction has to be immediate once you recognize the situation, in order to keep those blades spinning at a rate that would allow you to flare and soften that landing.

[@BAEPilot]

He pitched up and banked, causing the blades to stall! He should have "immediately" gone into 30% negative pitch. Continue forward momentum, maintaining head speed during decent and then positive pitch for a near soft landing. Height was not an issue. Bigger the heli the easier to Auto land. Unnecessary carnage.

[@danw1955]

Ouch! No auto-rotation on that bird! Even so, they got it down without too much visible damage. It acted like it just ran out of fuel, or the fuel pump quit.🤔

[@ElementofKindness]

I hope the pilot survived and gets the autorotation training he desperately needs.

[@bigpops74]

Shame. There was no real chance of an auto at that altitude. It didn't actually look that bad. I'm sure it will be an easy, but costly repair.

[@sarperkaratas535]

there was a very good chance of auto at that altitude. He had forward speed as well. In any case pilot does only thing that would damage the heli more, he pulls up to stall rotor as soon as possible :))

[@ats-3693]

He threw away any chance he had of a successful auto by pulling up and banking into a turn.

[@mostrosticator]

Always enjoy watching others hopes a dreams come crashing down other than my own hopes and dreams.

[@polytecpolytec1773]

Got caught in " dead mans curve ' not enought forward speed to iniciate outo rotation

[@davidrivero7943]

Like throttle cut was hit , just died 😢

[@kieronsmith4500]

Very sad but could have been a lot worse if it was flying much higher!

[@ConnorCain25]

The opposite unfortunately, the more height you have in that situation the more time you have to get the helicopter stable into an auto rotation and land safely

[@BigDuke6ixx]

@@ConnorCain25 exactly. It happed right in the dead man's curve.

[@ConnorCain25]

@@BigDuke6ixx yep, people forget to treat helicopters like fixed wings aircraft and use forward flight to gain transitional lift.

[@BigDuke6ixx]

@@ConnorCain25 yeah, my instinctive reaction would be to dump the collective, cancel the roll and drop the nose.

[@ConnorCain25]

@@BigDuke6ixx exactly, I would do the same

[@wakkogn9351]

I read somewhere that the helicopter suffered engine failure.

[@ridebecauseucan1944]

Sad but amazing !

[@stephendupuis6062]

Love it!

[@coldude2559]

Ouch!

[@nuclearrabbit1]

I'm not much of helicopter guy, but was the bank at the end due to the torque differential because of the engine failure? Is autorotation a possibility with a model? Seems the rotors may not have sufficient mass to keep the RPM's up, but the principle is the same, right? Do you have manual collective control? Not that you had much time to react...

[@EssentialRC]

Yes, they can auto-rotate. It all happened very quickly and relatively low. His first thought was to bank which didn't help. Should have continued the descent to pick up head speed. Easy to say after the fact.

[@nuclearrabbit1]

@Essential RC OK cool. Thanks for the response. I didn't mean to sound critical or anything. He had almost no time to react. Was just curious. I fly the airlines and RC fixed wing years ago, but know very little about helicopters. And less about helicopter models. It looks fascinating, but this model is on a different level.

[@EssentialRC]

@@nuclearrabbit1 All good. Cheers 😉

[@Paiadakine]

Great video person!

[@EssentialRC]

Thanks 👍 I've had 20 years of practice

[@aliakbari437]

So sad. But it could be worse. It could be mine. 😁 I don't have one

[@ManNomad]

What did the RC-NTSB find as the cause?

[@EssentialRC]

I didn't hear but you can hear the engine shutdown. It had been running a while so I am doubting it was a fuel system problem. Maybe just ran out of fuel. But that aside, he made the fatal mistake of banking around and losing all energy in the rotor. He needed to dive and gain energy to stand any chance of auto-rotation. I think he was too low anyway.

[@SpeccyMan]

@@EssentialRC I reckon he had enough altitude that an auto would have at least lowered his rate of descent, minimising the damage. Of course it is easy to say that sat watching. Maybe there were other factors involved.

[@robertcornelius3514]

Did anyone else see the flash coming from the grass below, and then 5 seconds later the chopper crashed?

[@EssentialRC]

😆

[@winstonsmith7801]

Robert Cornelius - The Grassy knoll ?

[@robertcornelius3514]

@@winstonsmith7801 , I believe so. Those 50 cal. are murder on helicopters. Lol

[@jondrew55]

I crashed my RC cigarette racer recently and my wife cried when I couldn't find the little man in the boat.

[@mikebird8290]

SUCH A SHAME ☹️ So Sad to watch 🇬🇧👍🏼

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

Any casualties? 😅

[@miguelsuarez8010]

Can't they rotate like the big ones?

[@SpeccyMan]

Of course they can but it is very much dependent upon the skill of the RC pilot.

[@rcthailandbasic9734]

WOW 👍🤘🤘

[@apogaeum4313]

So schade, ein tolles Modell mit realem Flugbild. Wiederaufbau hoffentlich möglich.

[@oscarpimentel3315]

Fuel end ? You dont down the colective immediately.

[@dieselrotor]

Ouch, spent all His energy climbing in a banking turn after power failure.

[@mpojr]

you feel sorry for the guy,,,but it was very realistic crash even the little pilot got throwed out.

[@McGyver0479]

Battery?

[@Hellndegenerates]

Did Warwick Davis Survive?

[@kevinsellsit5584]

Very sad, fuel starvation or mechanical engine failure?

[@RubyS.1]

I love the scale helis.

[@chrislom5288]

Pretty good forced landing--even the blades survived.

[@bschwand]

autorotation landing training is not a thing for rc pilots ?

[@makantahi3731]

no autorotation and no need for that turn, and blades has not enough mass to provide stable autorotation

[@winstonsmith7801]

Can model helicopters be auto rotated ?

[@gecrashed6565]

Yes 🙂

[@daveapplemotors]

Yes, but at that low altitude there was no way to build rotor speed to cushion the landing.

[@EssentialRC]

Spot on. All these folks who say it was pilot error don't understand how you achieve auto-rotation. It happened at relatively low altitude with very little warning.

[@gecrashed6565]

@@daveapplemotors I just meant that rc helis are able to do that but the heli in the video was too low to go into auto rotation. 😉

[@williamb.9110]

Yes. But altitude and rotor-speed are your friends

[@TB-mizzog]

i mean terrible luck an all, but probably the least dramatic crash I've seen so hopefully salvageable.

[@ianbeale2527]

"No G.I. Joe's were harmed during the filming of this accident".

[@jijiriris356]

bonjour pourquoi avoir cabré au lieu de faire un leger piqué vers le sol quand le moteur a coupé ? ca aurait taper moins fort

[@dundeeecroc]

Tail rotor speed was fluctuating.

[@brianmacintire3064]

Is that electric? Seems super quiet for a turbine.

[@parker1ray]

I have always said that if a helicopter or plane breaks down, you can't just get out and walk!

[@robb1165]

I always cash at airshows to make the highlight reel.

[@Jawst]

4:20 😂 I was hoping for a spectacular crash but it was pretty crap... why on earth did he perform a turn? In the real world of aviation you need to build up forward speed, the air flow over the rotor disc gives the aircraft lift which would reduce the crash Force

[@dennisrkb]

No autorotation?

[@TorquilBletchleySmythe]

Sadly, no one walked away from this.