Disco Elysium ancient Greek

[@matureusername6434]

Half Light what the FUCK are you going on about over there

[@bonogiamboni4830]

Hold on, let him cook.

[@giuthais]

@@bonogiamboni4830 περίμενε, αφήστε τον να μαγειρέψει

[@deffientllynotjalenbutler1736]

Makes sense thanks half light

[@kacperperzynski7488]

What do you mean, he speaks the truth always

[@felix-zp4ie]

is that.. irony? who do they think they are? they're mocking you, they think they're so fucking funny.. you need to destroy him harry, now.

[@therat1117]

It's from EDIT:(Heraklitos) : 'The word having been shared, the people live as though they have their own wisdom'

[@nts4906]

I think this is Heraclitus

[@therat1117]

@@nts4906 You are completely correct, this is from Heraklitos, fragment 2. Edited the original for correctness.

[@Loutr0n]

It's not "the word" ; "Logos" refers to rationality here, the human faculty to understand (and thus express) the order of the cosmos ; in other words we should be able to establish a common view of how the world works (since we have the same tool : the logos), but individuals think they know better

[@therat1117]

@@Loutr0n 'word' is still a superior translation, although 'idea' might also work. Heraklitos is not referring to abstract reason here (the word for that in Ancient Greek is λογισμός, not λόγος), but his own idea of how people should live. He is complaining that people do not live according to what he has told them is wisdom, and are instead interpreting things for themselves. Heraklitos is very bitter and misanthropic.

[@nts4906]

@@therat1117 No, you are wrong about this interpretation. “Thinking for yourself” is inferior because it amounts to freedom to think falsehood. The many want the truth to be what they desire, their personal truth. But the rational truth is singular and independent of the individual thoughts and desires of individuals. That is what is being expressed here. No intelligent person ever values “freedom of thought.” The only thing that matters is whether those thoughts are correct or incorrect. You are committing the exact same fallacy that Heraclitus is calling out 2500 years later. Literally having learned nothing 🤣

[@endaburns2121]

i relate to half-light so much

[@MnLRockaZ]

made my day xD

[@stateofflorida5082]

God dammit, half-light being the one who gives you the most true-to-reality copotype. Youre no superstar, vicious art critic or total pushover but Harry has correctly theorised about the pales role in bringing about the end of the world.

[@sarahtwycross422]

Part of the joke is that it's confirmation bias (because Harry being psychic not implicitly 'real' even if we know it is) - If you picked Apocalypse Cop, you were already expecting the world to be ending as a coping mechanism, and then on finding out that it is what that ending looks like shifts around it.

[@arenomusic]

Haven't made it that far yet but I knew that old woman wasn't staring at a photo all day for no reason

[@Evil040]

If there’s a game for the intellectual, it’s this one

[@minervaselysium137]

not the intellectual bourgeois the illuminated proletariat comrade.

[@rubenotero7100]

What is blood yapping about

[@paperhat_boi]

The ends of times.

[@777CHEKIST777]

Единственный коммунист который знает как правильно пропагандировать мертвецам.

[@arenomusic]

This is the rabbit hole shit I signed up for

[@Ptaku93]

This is modern Greek, at least in pronunciation

[@angelorougalas8460]

Not even

[@Κασσάνηρ]

It's neither modern nor ancient, its random.

[@DurvalLacerda]

Half-Light is like that edgy teen who watched too much American Psycho and makes liking the Roman Empire his whole personality.

[@angelorougalas8460]

@@DurvalLacerda roman empire?

[@Luca-nc1kr]

wait when does this happen in the game? I don't remember

[@TheSuicidePyro]

Only if you have chosen apocalypse cop? iirc

[@Luca-nc1kr]

@@TheSuicidePyro Thank you! :)

[@cosmicnoir]

This comes up after you’ve chosen apocalyptic dialogue options four times. It’s what offers you the choice to internalize the Cop of the Apocalypse thought. If that’s the first copotype you internalize, you then become Apocalypse Cop

[@rugbird]

spelling and pronounciation all over the place, sadly

[@stateofflorida5082]

I think it adds to it. Half-light got it from the recesses of harry's sozzled memory, it's a minor miracle it survived intact, forget its pronunciation.

[@meursaultroquentin]

While narratively it does make some sense, it's still a disservice to the language in my opinion. Quoting originals is great and educational, but please do it correctly!

[@Solaire_of_Astora13]

Makes it funnier imo

[@InnuendoXP]

@@meursaultroquentin Half-light is panicky & often incoherent, it's not out to educate anybody, it's literally the fight or flight response given voice.