Discs vs Pods vs Nades: Comparing after Balance Changes | Mech Arena

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@ravenrock541
@ravenrock541 11 ай бұрын
I luv nades but it needs a larger splash area. It takes a lot of practice to master but worth it. P.S. I miss the days when a Tank could tank
@Gyish
@Gyish 11 ай бұрын
1★ 4.5m 2★ 5m 3★ 5m 4★ 5.1m 5★ 5.2m 6★ 5.3m I think this should be a reasonable change (Altho 5.5m sounds nice, with max ilegendary mplants it could get to 8.25m instead of 7.5m. it'll be to OP)
@ishubham_deorari
@ishubham_deorari 11 ай бұрын
​@@Gyishwhose stats are these?
@Gyish
@Gyish 11 ай бұрын
@@ishubham_deorari a change that I would want to be made on nades dmg radius
@TheAirwky
@TheAirwky 11 ай бұрын
I don't spend a bunch of money on this game but I did buy the disc 12 and 16s and 2 weeks after my purchase the b̶u̶f̶f̶ (nerf) was announced. So that was fun.
@brandonjackson9047
@brandonjackson9047 11 ай бұрын
I invested heavily in Arc Torrents. I feel your pain.
@mjmillions
@mjmillions 11 ай бұрын
Dang!
@PunaniJohnny
@PunaniJohnny 11 ай бұрын
you mean nerf but thats rough
@E-SerpentGaming
@E-SerpentGaming 11 ай бұрын
@@brandonjackson9047same
@TheAirwky
@TheAirwky 11 ай бұрын
@@PunaniJohnny fixed it. Thx😉
@sleepycCh
@sleepycCh 11 ай бұрын
One way to determine if disc launcher is really useless is testing it against helix racks. Does helix rack perform the function of a guided weapon better than disc launcher now? I think people are upset it can't be used the same way, and I am too. I liked discs and how they functioned, I'm going to miss it.
@WickyMA
@WickyMA 11 ай бұрын
So epics are more efficient overall than legendaries... Balance Plarium style. And to think some of us have actually spent money on these items - feeling somewhat cheated.
@mecharena.1696
@mecharena.1696 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@mecharena.1696
@mecharena.1696 10 ай бұрын
It's is cheating to balance them after spending 💰
@dudditz
@dudditz 11 ай бұрын
Just yesterday posted games with like 12 kill gamesvs players on cpc with disc 12&8 6star surge.. great guided weapon now, dont even use splash implant anymore since its heavily affected by dmg reduction (still can annoy or scare people to be hit, the mind is your enemy not the mech😂)
@ACE_2.00
@ACE_2.00 11 ай бұрын
Love it. Thanks for the updated stuff! Appreciate it. Have a good one.
@PunaniJohnny
@PunaniJohnny 11 ай бұрын
disc launcher should still do frontal damage from wall or ground shots. Sure take away double damage from back shots but to weaken it even further is kinda lame.
@leonardotrujillo8661
@leonardotrujillo8661 11 ай бұрын
Do you mean side shots(1.5x damage) or front shots(1x damage)?
@PunaniJohnny
@PunaniJohnny 11 ай бұрын
@@leonardotrujillo8661 i mean like ground shots and wall shots should do 1x damage instead of .5 or w.e they did. Sorry didnt word it very good lmao
@c.j.reynolds512
@c.j.reynolds512 10 ай бұрын
I’ve never played a game that nerfs meta weapons and doesn’t give some kind of compensation. When a game will nerf and buff whatever they want whenever they want, the players lose trust, and the game starts to die. Unforunitly that’s what it looks like will happen with Mech Arena now. Trying to dress up nerfs while not addressing the trust of their players. Not a smart move.
@chico711
@chico711 11 ай бұрын
Its a never ending story,,,,,,,,,once you reach max lvl to the op weapons they will nerf them and kill them so you can invest in others so on and so forth,,,,,,,,i lost interest to be honest and i am at end game lvl,,,,,what a petty,,,,,,
@NikeshBossGaming
@NikeshBossGaming 11 ай бұрын
Hey scape is there any A-coins spending event nearby? Coz I am about to upgrade my garv beam 10s. Please answer as soon as possible
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
I have no idea. They don’t tell us the schedule most times. I just wait for one I like myself. Then spend 🤷🏻‍♂️
@NikeshBossGaming
@NikeshBossGaming 11 ай бұрын
@@scape211 I just spend them a few moments ago.. well they aren't going to give us any really good items..
@RuFFlesGaming
@RuFFlesGaming 11 ай бұрын
IceEater211 strikes again
@ash_one_vortexgameing
@ash_one_vortexgameing 11 ай бұрын
Disc launcher needs a optimal range buff 70 meters would be good
@brandonjackson9047
@brandonjackson9047 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. I think both DLs and Arcs needed to be nerfed, but I believe Plarium went too far.
@ash_one_vortexgameing
@ash_one_vortexgameing 11 ай бұрын
@@brandonjackson9047 🤣🤣🤣
@BenderMAgames
@BenderMAgames 11 ай бұрын
Maybe something to keep in mind while reviewing, is that those weapons perform very differently for mobile players or PC players. I love my nade launchers because it is easier to aim compaired to disc or even the bubble weapon. On mobile i cant go with vertical aiming the whole time and that is the main issue i have with disc and bubble weapon.
@SVD23035
@SVD23035 11 ай бұрын
Comparison of these weapons was must, at least for me... Ngl I hated Nades for a long time but now I feel like Nades is the only go to weapon as a replacement of DLs (sadly) coz Nades got decent radius and solid potential along with availability, also many players now have Lodestar gotten from that crate rush for 80k credits per spin so overall it's gonna be a great build for FTP players at least, well thanks a lot and agree with you Scape! 😊👍🏻
@brentrebrab
@brentrebrab 11 ай бұрын
I feel very cheated, bought the arc12s months back and finally got enough blueprints to get doubles, and i also got maxed legendary implants for both arcs and disks. Both are now borderline useless given im in the 10k sp range
@PukMaxi
@PukMaxi 11 ай бұрын
My double nade 10 Guardian is doing very well with Lodestar and epic implants. Big learning curve tho.
@brandonjackson9047
@brandonjackson9047 11 ай бұрын
That's a good combination!
@marchndefinitivo9781
@marchndefinitivo9781 11 ай бұрын
Hey scape just a quick question. Now that there's been rumors that we won't have the implant removal discount are you going to stay in the game for long?
@tanmaykaushik9857
@tanmaykaushik9857 11 ай бұрын
I got DL 8s 1 month before the balancing and i was so lucky to get the epic damage and radius implants of DLs, i upgraded the implants to 4 levels and man! i dominated the arena, i used to kill mechs from 120 m ranges, in cpc i won all matches because of it, i used to kill any mech, even 5 star brickhouse, with back and side splash damage, and then my luck ran out, DLs got debuffed and now It sucks, i hope atleast we get side and back damage bonus for DLs. :( And scape I love yr channel, keep it up bro, just waiting for F2P battle log ep16.
@EcstasyIsGreat
@EcstasyIsGreat 11 ай бұрын
It still has the back and side damage modifiers but you need to hit directly now not just wity aoe, which brings it in line with every other weapon. It's fair. The other nerfs to it not so fair though.
@EcstasyIsGreat
@EcstasyIsGreat 11 ай бұрын
With*
@BG8950
@BG8950 11 ай бұрын
Can you make mech loadout videos for KS, Panther etc. The One on channel are 2-3 yrs old.
@mjmillions
@mjmillions 11 ай бұрын
Anyone else game getting stuck at the loading screen?
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
sometimes. kinda annoying...
@yvocarr288
@yvocarr288 11 ай бұрын
What's your view on my hanger lategame so far? So far, My hanger is: Redox - EM-16 duo Onyx - Minigun-16 duo Seeker - Storm Rack 12/missile rack 8 (soon duo storm 12) Stalker - DL-12 duo Hemlock - Nade Launcher 12/10 (soon duo 12)
@steves9589
@steves9589 11 ай бұрын
What should we consider mid and end game?
@PyroRobo
@PyroRobo 11 ай бұрын
Remember when DLs used to require some skill to use more effectively? All that tome spent training to break the auto aim to get back and side damage. Gone. The spent resources on upgrading the weapons and implants. Gone. What do I replace them with? Nades I guess. Time to spend more time learning how to get good with nades. Time to waste more resources on upgrades, implants, and pilots. All of which I don't have. The DLs did needed a bit of a damage nerf but this literally took away any and all developed skill and threw it out. There is no reason this needed to have practically all indirect damage taken away. It was too much. But that's exactly what they wanted. This really is turning into another War Robots. The whole "out with the old and in with the new" bull shtick marketing. Force players to burn resources on something and then make that something obsolete. Then make them do it again and again and again... Not like they care about feedback anyway. Especially from free to play players.
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
How long have you had the disc launchers for?
@PyroRobo
@PyroRobo 11 ай бұрын
@@scape211 Ever since they were available for free to play players. Shame. I was really looking forward to getting the 16s but I don't think I want to now. ID: 18020629 With the same name in case you're interested in looking.
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
@@PyroRobo I can’t remember exactly when they went free, but it’s at least been months. Probably a year. As the world of mobile gaming goes, things change. Typically in a rapid way. Having something remain so strong in the game for so long seems pretty fair to me. I know discs had a good amount of work to get used to, but metas do need to adjust and evolve. And in mobiles games you can’t count on things staying as they are long term. And from what I have heard of war robots, meta stuff and balance changes dropped every month to make things obsolete quickly. I don’t think Ma is closer to that level yet. I know these changes can suck, but I don’t feel it’s a fair comparison.
@PyroRobo
@PyroRobo 11 ай бұрын
@@scape211 I respect your opinion and honestly, I agree with you. I simply hope this sort of thing doesn't become as normal as the War Robots stuff. I've learned from first hand experience having played War Robots some years ago. Mech Arena isn't quite there. Yet. PS: I always appreciate a creator that interacts with their viewers. I hope you have a good fulfilling rest. And remember to try and have fun!
@Rudraksh.Pratap
@Rudraksh.Pratap 11 ай бұрын
Same , spent 7.5k Acoins on Disc 12s As a f2p it was a great investment Was going to buy 16s but naah changed my plans now Thank u plarium carbine wasted my 7.5k and now these Discs and arcs ones are also wasted
@Its_suraj_860
@Its_suraj_860 11 ай бұрын
8:20 this is why I don't like to use nades “means how it fires" in cpc they are ok but in 2v2s they are kind of annoying...
@EcstasyIsGreat
@EcstasyIsGreat 11 ай бұрын
The arc is what puts me off wanting to buy it, it looks like it would take longer to kill something at range than pod would and much harder to aim.
@silmans1
@silmans1 8 ай бұрын
Is disc 8 still good in mid game? I tried it with stalker and it was OP
@Its_suraj_860
@Its_suraj_860 11 ай бұрын
So now disks are really a guided weapon.. now it makes sense. but I still think they should increase its lock range if they really want to make it a guided like atleast 70 meters probably... Anyway, what do you think on its radius implant means after all this are they really imp to use now or not?
@after5hock273
@after5hock273 11 ай бұрын
Helix racks are guided too, but they deal full damage irregardless of range. Why should the disk launchers be the exception?
@alexsolero7747
@alexsolero7747 11 ай бұрын
As a F2P player I'm so glad that it feels like the DL8 are the same as before !! Barely notice the change.
@BB88MangosALBB88
@BB88MangosALBB88 11 ай бұрын
They will do you good around mid game but late and end game nah.
@SUTAPABHATTACHARYYA-b5i
@SUTAPABHATTACHARYYA-b5i 11 ай бұрын
True😊
@Rudraksh.Pratap
@Rudraksh.Pratap 11 ай бұрын
May be u never used radius 😂
@Imperial_xMW
@Imperial_xMW 11 ай бұрын
Yup
@alexsolero7747
@alexsolero7747 11 ай бұрын
@@Rudraksh.Pratap it just takes a couple more shots, no biggie
@koguar69
@koguar69 11 ай бұрын
I put my discs on orion now and I‘m dominating the most battles. Do you think orion disc12 would be a nice endgame combo?
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
Ive been using orion with DL8s so I think it has a lot of potential. Not sure if id exactly consider it end game, but still pretty decent. End game, I think DLs can work on stuff like orion, BH, and stalker. Orion seems the most well rounded of the 3.
@StephenWilsonDuraiA
@StephenWilsonDuraiA 11 ай бұрын
Disc 's aren't bad they are balanced and imp note its a guided weapon not a missile or barrage weapon but it would be nice if it had back damage
@sintdm1634
@sintdm1634 11 ай бұрын
What implants were used? Because early game when you get the DL8, you probably wont have good implants yet, and unlikely a legendary pilot.
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. That’s why I use a mixture of only rare and epic implants and at best the epic pilot. That’s why I used Rosa when I played with the disc8s.
@guarddragon00
@guarddragon00 10 ай бұрын
​@@scape211I have epic DMG and Radius for DLs, is it much better with those implants now?
@GhostOfTaborGuy0501
@GhostOfTaborGuy0501 6 ай бұрын
Had to do the 100th comment Btw love the vid
@yvocarr288
@yvocarr288 11 ай бұрын
Still rocking the DL-12 on my Stalker, I feel the difference even with the Predator drive damage boost but not sure what else could work with it, maybe EM-12s, Sadly I don't have any other guided weapons that are good or high rank so a little stuck Using Nade Launcher 12s on my Hemlock which is working quite well!!
@clays_carvings8359
@clays_carvings8359 11 ай бұрын
Stalker with minis is a deadly combo
@mattm2625
@mattm2625 11 ай бұрын
My 3S Stalker with Railgun 12 is a BEAST heh - super fun.
@guarddragon00
@guarddragon00 10 ай бұрын
They should at least give us range implant in compensation for DL nerf. Would be great if we could only get 75m optimal range (with implant) just like all other guided have without implants.
@curtokio1
@curtokio1 11 ай бұрын
Yeah legendary disc feel weak now, sad.
@hohuaze9893
@hohuaze9893 11 ай бұрын
I think DLs should be buffed in term of optimal range damage, then at least it can be a mid range weapon
@Amrik2010
@Amrik2010 11 ай бұрын
So disc launchers are only really viable in mid range (kinda like a worse arc torrent?) and pod guns are best used at long range...?
@CorruptdKetchup
@CorruptdKetchup 11 ай бұрын
It’s better than any arc torrent before the grade update, damage is still decent considering being able to shoot around walls
@Cederez_s
@Cederez_s 11 ай бұрын
Storm Rack has more damage (both burst and reload), better range/speed/radius than nades. Pre nerf DL were used in direct path so it's not like the indirect path of Nades is the big selling point. I think Nades are great and would work wonderfully on f2p accounts but I'm not convinced spenders would end up picking Nades over SR.
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
totally agree here. I know SR are top tier right now, but I think most know that. The question I hear most is about the 'replacement' of DLs. SR was already going into hangars without the DL nerf. But with the nerf, maybe more SRs will be in hangars or youll see multiple builds of them. But aside from that, I wanted to explore the other options most seemed to highlight as potential replacements.
@Exiitar
@Exiitar 11 ай бұрын
Whats an ice eater?
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
its an inside joke from a past stream lol
@mjmillions
@mjmillions 11 ай бұрын
Thx for this!!!
@rahulrajkunar
@rahulrajkunar 11 ай бұрын
i got nade 10 for 275000 credits lol i love it now i feel very sad that dls are like this I used to be a sniper with this weapon
@daredevil5508
@daredevil5508 11 ай бұрын
Disks can become op if mech raene can give a range increase implant for tracking up to 66%
@FCarter
@FCarter 11 ай бұрын
Cool❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊
@t.t6192
@t.t6192 11 ай бұрын
So the best weapon in late game is now usless for the sake of balance? But somehow newer weapons do better? Yeah whatever
@Islamhnnnn
@Islamhnnnn 11 ай бұрын
Nah bro they killed the discs 💀
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
they definitely knocked them down a ton. I dont find them useless, but not great at top end fs
@jacksonskillestad
@jacksonskillestad 7 ай бұрын
how do you haven700k acoins
@steves9589
@steves9589 11 ай бұрын
Sounds like they are gonna kill the F2P weapons late game. Especially when it’s really good at EM defense
@crazygalemt
@crazygalemt 11 ай бұрын
Even after the nerf, I still find disc launchers to be viable weapons
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
in some ways yes. But certainly far less viable than before. But i suppose that was the idea....
@RebornThroughHate
@RebornThroughHate 11 ай бұрын
What do I think? I think it's time that content creators grew some balls and ripped plarium devs a new one, instead of talking excuses for the company. Not really you.. I know your stance, but.. face to face.. they need to be told they're killing the game. Look at the interest dwindling down. So now $100 weapons in a dying game? I had 1 person on my list on last night. More problematic than the nerfs and lack of new content (maps) is the pricing. They have got to be insane with these prices. The more people leave, it seems the more they raise prices, as to even out the money they take in. Yes, we also need free implant removal, no matter how hard your friend thinks this is a bad idea because.. ugh.. dev salaries. Whoever is in charge of the game's financial structure doesn't know what he's doing and needs to be fired. I do not think this game will survive another year at this state or, if it does, you will have a very narrow set of players at the top just playing customs with one another and then, below, a large group of delusional and gullible people trying to play f2p. (you don't have to answer in public.. i just wanted to share my feelings)
@________________________9
@________________________9 11 ай бұрын
discs deals 0 damage past 60m lol
@sirabetjonson
@sirabetjonson 11 ай бұрын
Not yet time to reinstall...
@jacksonskillestad
@jacksonskillestad 7 ай бұрын
have
@fahkinlosah8469
@fahkinlosah8469 11 ай бұрын
The game just got exponentially more boring for a whole bunch of people end game…bad business, gonna cost them valuable end game users footing the bill for everyone else
@scape211
@scape211 11 ай бұрын
it ultimately depends on where they want this to go. When they make big changes like this, it usually paves the way for their next moves. Like when they took away second copies in beta it sucked. But it gave us far more variety in hangars later.
@hujijitw
@hujijitw 11 ай бұрын
the game service say nomad cool down even is the cool anf fun to nomad players. it is unfair to non sp droppers in tournament. i do not see any game like mech arena. crazy and unbeliveable develpoment in this game. become more and more trash and not worth to play.
@lextorcreeper4474
@lextorcreeper4474 11 ай бұрын
I hate Plarium's greedy ass
@TsunamiPrimerPHD
@TsunamiPrimerPHD 11 ай бұрын
Not much more annoying than losing to somebody who relies on disc splash damage primarily. So HAHAHA ☠️☠️
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