Discussion on Middle Way approach versus Independence

[@tashidelek5793]

Thank you for this discussion. Appreciate all the participants especially Tenzin Tsundue la.- for your tireless work, sacrifice and dedication.

[@tsultrim24]

kalden Lodoe la, next time to save the time don't repeat the question; all the participant are speaking in Tibetan so no need for translation. (all in all very good Discussion)

[@wyangjo9911]

Freedom for Tibetan people

[@Gyurmey]

Nice discussion.

[@nathannathan1709]

Can any of those self-declared Rangzen fighters outside of Tibet burn a tiny part of their fingers for Rangzen? If not, then please read the following advice. Are those Ranzen advocates militarily ready to launch a war against China or just follow the same pattern of having dialogue with the invader- CCP? if so, then what is the difference between Ranzen and reconciliation? What strategies do they really want to implement? Avoid contacting the CCP and continue to shout empty slogans on the free streets of the foreign countries? Continue to encourage Tibetans inside Tibet to set themselves on fire, meanwhile those so- called "Rangzen fighters" continue to hide in the safest countries to sell the photos of the self-immolators to the world to beg money for maintenance in the name of Tibet and the Tibetans? What those So-called "Ranzen fighters" outside have done for the well being of those Tibetans living inside Tibet? Nothing at all but destroying them... What bothers me here most is that some tend to shout only empty slogans and put CTA in a scapegoat position. The fact is that CTA has not curbed you all if you think you are brave enough! You want to gain Rangzen? Go ahead! Are you truly in a position to take Tibet back from Chinese hands through military force? Firstly, you need to recruit troops and establish bases; secondly, you need to obtain weapons; thirdly, you need to provide trainings to those troops, and foremost one is to get funded for all these plans; so have you already possessed the foregoing mentioned fundamental state? If not, please stop wrangling, avoid being unrealistic fancy, and to be real...Most of those self-declared Rangzen fighters have never even seen a Chinese traffic police officer in their real life, how the hell you are able to gain Rangzen? If you sincerely want Rangzen, then you need to cross borders and get back to Tibet to physically fight against the Chinese! Please be advised that Rangzen is not on the free streets of the foreign countries!

[@namgyalchoden243]

I myself always support umaylam.when his h. D dalai lama think supporg help leaks of people then who r we 2 decide .whatever our head decide i without any douby i wil always follow respect his holiness.without his holiness we hv no any identity in this world.our identity represents by our great rimpochen like his holiness gyalwa Karma pa samdong rimpochen etc.

[@jamesmicheal7003]

Intolerant Ashish @akirtania 15 nov. Voir la traduction @dna what is the contribution of Dali lama for india .. Except for bad relation with China I can't figure out any thing else?

[@wangdan7571]

Are we wasting time by waiting for middle path gift too long?

[@tsentso2568]

I do not agree Tenzin S. ????

[@jamesmicheal7003]

कुछ लोगों ने तो इस बात पर ही आश्चर्य जताया है कि मोदी भक्त हिंदुओं को शांतिप्रिय कहे जाने पर दलाई लामा की निंदा क्यों कर रहे हैं यह समझ से परे है। ट्विटर पर कुछ लोग सरकार को यह भी सलाह देने से बाज नहीं आए कि भारत में शरण पाए दलाई लामा को अब दरवाजा दिखा दिया जाना चाहि

[@kalsangngodup2707]

Rangzen is more bitter...😎👍

[@taradolma4547]

Why Malden lodoe so rude

[@karmadondup6898]

An independence stance, in some ways, says, that the middle way is a failure. I think anyone would agree with that statement if we all played by the same rules of logic. Again, a month back, after His Holiness went on record stating that he is "fully retired", he went back on his words and talked politics, both he and his sister (around his 80th bday), emotionally appealing (some say blackmailing) to all Tibetans to be loyal and accusing some Tibetan people of "hurting" His Holiness, people questioning his handwork and the MW success story. And such social pressures did a wonderful job of elimination Lukar Jam (who, like, Aung San Kyi's "its time for change), a Tibetan who spend time in a psycho Chinese prison, but however he suffered before, no sympathy from we the compassionate race, he is a social pariah and public enemy #1 (yes, worse than CCP, thank you Samdhong Rinpoche). If we can think a little clear-headed for a change and follow the logic, its not hard to deduce, it wouldn't matter if the Sikyong candidate is Lukar Jam or any other Rangzen candidate; that person can automatically be construed as an anti UmayLam, and therefore, Anti-Dalai lama. And lets admit it, we Tibetans love painting anyone anti-Dalai Lama at the drop of a hat. In short, Tibetan democracy is not genuine democracy, it's MiddleWay democracy, it's Dalai Lama democracy and therefore these kinds of "debates" are really for show, like Kalden Lodoe's show of fairness - for the injis and wool-headed Tibetan peasants like us. The establishment will see to it that genuine democracy never see the light of day and threaten the old system we Tibetans are bred for -Theocracy based on loyalty.

[@vegetarianfirstreligionnext]

scrap debate.. very biased.

[@jamesmicheal7003]

you need to put chinese flag on your shoulder not tibetan flag and must support the xi visit in any country not protest