Discussion on THINKING & FEELING

[@someonerandom713]

I don't know if "getting things done" rings a lot of bells with me when it comes to Ti. This sounds like a very Te way to interpret Ti. To me, Ti feels more like what it does is: "I want to understand this thing completely and with all its details. And only after that, will I decide wether or not I should get something done with it based on what I now understand." There _can be_ getting something done involved, but it's not the general priority

[@TheOmniscientHuman]

Isn't understanding and details S & N?

[@yananykyforova6754]

Agree. "getting things done" is all about external world and responsibility of extroverted functions. To me, Ti cares about getting things done in a proper way, if there is no other options than get things done

[@Vegetoyesh]

I agree with this Ti explanation. I'd rather not put in any effort into something unless it could yield significant returns in the long run.

[@yananykyforova6754]

​@@TheOmniscientHuman S & N are observer functions. We're talking about understanding the process in details to make a decision.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Te is tribal dogma. Tribal success is extroverted intuition.

[@johnniedilangcruz9287]

"T" does not like to be "F" evaluated. For a "T", when "F" prioritizes, "F" is peacocking to look smart. For an "F", when "T" is "only" getting things done without putting 'value' in them, it does appear 'meaningless' As an Ni/Fi, "feeling good" is the ultimate goal. xD

[@Enlightenation]

I agree that thinkers use thinking to avoid negative emotions. In interpersonal conflict between Te and Ti, Te seems to do this by trial and error. Since Te doesn't reason as deeply as Ti, Te may "resolve" the conflict more quickly but risks displacing the emotional burden to the other party (demon Fi selfishly doesn't want to deal with this). Ti goes deep on a solution. In an attempt to "protect" the other's feelings in the process, it risks the solution being wrong by not consulting the other along the way (demon Fe selfishly doesn't want to deal with this). Both Te and Ti can thus come off as being insensitive to feeing types who don't feel that people are blocks that you can bang together.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Ne comes up with options for the tribe. Te is dogma - which is an observer function. Dave and Shan are trying to make Te be two things.

[@susankievman642]

True

[@susankievman642]

Enlightenation, I do not agree that TE uses thinking simply to avoid feeling. We use it because it is so effective in getting tings done and finding patterns that fit together. Efficiency and making sense is a much higher priority. Not afraid of feeling, just dont like to dwell in there for long periods of time. Feeling, gets in the way sometimes of accomplishing things.

[@michaelbindner9883]

Te comes with Fi, which is about personal values, not emotions. Te uses thinking based on tribal dogma. Think true believer Catholic who follow Thomas Aquinas (whose epistemology is outdated).

[@michaelbindner9883]

Ti uses thinking to improve the tribe, which he or she cares about. Without Fe concern and loyalty, there is no reason to do Ti.

[@shiro1744]

Feeling figures out the priorities to figure out WHICH things to do or problems to solve to be most effective (do we spend today painting the house puke brown? Or do we build a fence to keep out the bears?), and thinking comes in to do the actual work of solving the problem. Double deciding 101.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

What do you mean with 'being most effective' mean here?

[@smvallet]

The feelers identify the what, while the thinkers tackle the how.

[@lawlalla]

@@PowerRedBullTypology I think they mean that ‘thinking’ figures out the method for achieving what ‘feeling’ determined to be the goal.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@DreamxCreature sounds like Ne (indesisive) and low Te/Se...in other words, infps?

[@lawlalla]

@@DreamxCreature they have adhd lol

[@betarayslimp]

Reading Jung's writings on typology helped me out with F vs T. "Thinking" is the judgement of validity, and "Feeling" is the judgement of acceptability. The clip is a discussion of acceptability. Jimmy says to Henry, "Oh man 4 out of 5 that's the least acceptable, right? The youngest is more acceptable" Henry replies, "No, youngest less acceptable because" of his subjective reaction to to the concrete fact of being the youngest (Si). Jimmy says, "OK, Let's judge the acceptability of all the spots. When you're the youngest your the baby" of course not a concrete "baby", but abstractly "the baby". He tries his best to bring some validity to the baby argument with a weak T of "you have something different going on". Henry does a better job expressing Jimmy argument with a reason one might think being the youngest is more acceptable (a Ti move), but it's still not acceptable to him (Fe wins), "Mom's protection is valid, but that's not enough to make it acceptable." Jimmy's like, "Here's an analogy to the olympics that shows why 4th isn't acceptable." Henry's jokes, "Unacceptable, haha!" he doesn't' even take that nonsense abstract categorization seriously. Henry then goes shows why that's not a valid comparison because 1st has has the unacceptable feature of "getting all the discipline".

[@susankievman642]

As an ENTJ myself, I totally get the “get things done” do we can be satisfied and content. My daughter is just the opposite and it drives me nuts! If it doesn’t feel good, or if the moon is full, or if Mercury is in retrograde, or it is too early in the morning or too late in the afternoon or it is “that time of month”, Nothing gets DONE! 100 ways to avoid finishing the project! Let’s put some feelings aside and accomplish something! That is my motto.

[@DanAnear]

Or let's put some things aside and enjoy the moment. ;)

[@SabrinaXe]

Lol that is so me. The first thing I do when I wake up is, look at the amount of sunlight in my room and see how harsh the sun is and how that makes me feel, how is the weather effecting me, how am I feeling, evaluating my feelings 24/7 based on my surroundings

[@susankievman642]

@@SabrinaXeYikes!!

[@TheGoodPlaceMusicandCrafts]

Interesting, what is your daughter’s personality type?

[@susankievman642]

@@TheGoodPlaceMusicandCrafts INFP

[@anonymouslearner2454]

I think the reason why Fi is opposite to Te is because it doesn't accept whatever "works" and "gets it done" It has a strong strong priority of "how it should be" and any patch-work duct tape version which are practical and pragmatic many times hinder the idealist vision. Like for example how I disrespect the Te marketing effort because I have uncompromising Fi that wants people to buy for valuing it

[@farrex0]

"Can you cross that off your list? I got something working, for the sake of getting it done".... Me a TI user: WTF are you even talking about? I find it interesting, videos from three to five years they used to get Ti, and functions for that matter. But now they have made an amalgamation of functions. They have gone so far into the relation of the tribe BS, that now Ti and Te are just the same thing, and the only difference between them is the relation people have with the tribe. Their system has completely crossed the threshold of no longer being a cognitive system, but a sociological system. Guess what, while functions does affect your relation with the tribe, what seems to affect that the most is nurture. Dario Nardi studies, discovered that each function is placed in different areas on the brain, so Te user use mostly an specific area of the brain where Te seems to be, and Ti user use another. So they do not work the same, at all, they function completely different. All the explanations they gave of thinking here, sound mostly like Te. A little hint, for Ti the goal, getting something done is not important. Ti is mostly driven by curiosity and challenge. Ti users will often experiment, just for the sake of finding new ways, will try to deeply understand processes, systems, everything. Understanding and learning often is way more important than getting things done, in fact getting things done is rarely a motivation for Ti. Once a topic loses its magic (we thoroughly understand it or there doesn't seem to be a challenge in it anymore) we can move on to another thing, without even finishing it. If something is too easy, we will find way to make it harder, just because we love the challenge, because getting things done is not the goal, challenging ourselves is.

[@7sanctuz]

This is very true

[@nattifrutti]

It sounds like you are mixing in Ne and other animals here. They all affect each other. Did you take that into account?

[@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר]

You're describing intuition T- is deciding. Understanding, in order to get something. N- is observing. Understanding, in order to understand.

[@farrex0]

@@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר Not at all... Thinking is a judging function it is the drive behind the motivation, the reason why you do things. Intuition is the perceiving and categorizing function, they become the tools in which you accomplish what the judging functions want. Compare for example INTPs with ENTPs... if what you say is true, in theory the ENTP would be the one more interested in understanding while the INTPs would be the one more interested in achieving goals and getting things done... Tell me, does that reflect reality? Why are ENTPs often more driven compared to INTPs(When INTPs have Ti higher on their stack), while INTPs tend to just sit back and learn and understand for the sake of learning and understanding? INTPs, are often the type that likes understanding for the sake for understanding, when according to you, that should be the Ne doms. Compare Ti and Te doms, they would be both equally as driven to accomplish goals, but they aren't in the slightest...

[@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר]

@@farrex0 were not speaking in the same language, I'm afraid. Where did you get the info that entp is more interested in achieving goals and intp more understanding? You literally just made that up out of the feeling you get out of each type. I get that, I used to do that to. But this is definitely not trackable in reality, therefore not reliable. You had some good point there. You described "judging " and "preciving" (deciding and observing) pretty well. But for an example, t is kind of the reasoning of doing things, but it has another aspect to, which is the "doing things." I'd guess you believe in mbti and cognitive functions more than objective personality but I'll take in objective personality terms because that's what I believe to be true. Now- observing (preciving) is about passage of information- understanding or facts. (S or N.) Deciding (judging) is about the me in the world- what's my part in the tribe, and how is the tribe. Deciding is about taking complete conclusions and organizing them with the intention of a certain place in the tribe and a certain place for the tribe. , observing is about getting info, conclusions It doesn't mean you have to constantly do if you're a decider. What it does mean that t is not just about getting the understanding. It has a GOAL in mind , and on which it puts the thinking power for. The goal is to get a "puzzle " solved, for A BIGGER PURPOSE, even if unconscious. The bigger purpose will be about place in the tribe and state of the tribe. N , will have the information and understanding for that sake, because that's the letters purpose. Feeling, will work on what are the little goals in pursuit of the bigger goal (example I want to be the center of attention of the tribe therefore its important for me to be a musician) and more advanced feeling process will just go straight to the goal. Sensing, will get the plain info for getting the Plain info, and then will either organize (si) or keep gathering (se) it. Hope this helps you understand this specific theory better.

[@worldwidehappiness]

No. Ti wants to thoroughly understand whatever interests them. Te wants quick fixes to get things done. Fi wants self to feel good for self-understanding. Fe wants everyone to feel good to get things done. Something like that.

[@saloni.sharma]

yes. pretty much this.

[@stabbrzmcgee825]

I think both T and F doms try to achieve the same thing (functional world) but rely on different reasoning or base it on different ideas of what is important. Whether a person looks at it as "a happy system is a functioning system" or "a functioning system is a happy system", the goal is the same: a functional world. But perhaps I misperceive things.

[@derpderpson806]

I like this a lot

[@PinkSheep2005]

There’s just sooo much that needs done! I cannot tell HOW so much is even possible bc it just doesn’t make sense to me… I’d obsess about priorities and just deem soo much as not important in the scheme of my life, energy level, meaningfulness etc… I’d see the ST’s in my family as just mindlessly slaves to their own need to get it all done, which cyclical chores are never done! Your channel has truly helped me with my necessary change of mind and growth since the ST’s can no longer DO anything or are passed away! I realized it’s not about evaluating all things to all other things to prioritize and only do what little I could manage… instead I have set points in the day to switch gears to different priorities and yes, all the chores will eventually get somewhat tamed (my perspective of the task size and energy needed was way way off) however I cannot power through as much as they could… but I can find the pain points and get creative to simplify all of it to my level!

[@xzamroom]

I don't think T is responsible for getting things done, T at is simplest is just responsible for banging blocks. As a lead Ti getting things done does not seem like something I am obligated to doing, if anything I wish I did it way more. What I find myself doing instead is learning and processing how things work just for the sake of understanding how things work, instead of banging the block extrovertedly I am banging them in my head

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

exactly

[@aprilbl00m]

I think getting things done is a Te thing specifically, not so much a Ti thing. Te says "do it quickly" Ti says "do it right" Ti will spend a lot of time on a project, trying to produce the optimal result. For Te, close enough is good enough. If it will do the job, you can tick it off the list and move on to something else.

[@eggyama170]

Yes. Te is result oriented.

[@caarpoe]

I also see with lead Ts that they “invent” more work in order to avoid doing F. The backlog of boxes to tick off is never ending and from a DD perspective also seem somewhat unprioritized. As FF-Se/Fi-CP/B(S) I do see a tendency to avoid getting to work if I am not feeling it. With some practice, there are ways to work around that. Ironically, utilising known info seems to be the way to do it for me. I learned around the age of 20 that I could study something I wasn’t Fi passionate about by finding ways to link it to known info that I was already passionate about. The new topic then “felt” more relevant to my brain and I could get to learning and working more quickly. And that’s lucky, because with double-activated ST play, I constantly see all the fires that need to be put out around me. Not getting to it because I don’t “feel like it” would cause me so much stress.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

But do you see Ti doms "do" so much stuff? THen what are they doing?

[@shiro1744]

The reverse is also true in that Fs will be perfectly happy to sit and stew in bad/negative feelings rather than go and do the thing that will actually make their lives better.

[@dcarze9]

As an infp I literally create procedures to reduce chaos in my work, and to procrastinate, and to maximize efficiency/goof off time. Nothing is more annoying than my boss saying “we work in the grey a lot” because we don’t, they just chose to change their minds when being given the exact same situation a couple months apart… it’s infuriating

[@rationaloptimist4959]

I am a apologetic feeler, an intuitive one at at 😅. I am always re-prioritizing and re-analyzing my plans. I like to think I am being "logical and reasonable" perhaps "rational" but....nothing gets done, no new formulas---just more, category switching

[@LemonMeIon]

Part of being intuitive and introverted. I get nothing done as Se PoLR.

[@infernal..]

Saaaame 🙄

[@Eta_Carinae__]

I suspect that the 'get it done' attitude with thinkers isn't very parsimonious with the unproductive XNTP stereotype. With Ti, it might be better to interpret that 'get it done' in terms of the internal introverted side: the thing that the NTPs are doing is taking responsibility for essentially 'tidying up' their understanding of something. That may be the thing that they are "doing", in your sense of the word.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

TI = _internal logical ordering_ (indeed, tidying up understanding' - reasoning) Te= _external logical ordering_ , moving things in the external work (" doing in a structured manner")

[@Wernouis]

I think the F is the compass, and the T is the machine: F tells the T where to go, and T does the work. If you have T with weak F, you just do shit without prioritizing and then you got burnout. (like me haha) If you have F with weak T, you possible have difficulties trying to reason somethings (idk).

[@saloni.sharma]

Bonus trauma if you have saviour N AND F with weak T lol

[@lucyk2634]

If you have F with weak T, you sits with "what's REALLY important" so long that you don't actually do anything

[@kandrarichards4092]

2 Thinkers trying to figure out Feeling! 😂 LMAO ❤ Thinkers are scared to death to deal with theirs or anyone else's feelings! 🎉

[@m.o4936]

lol ti and getting it done?? not me

[@CaveyMoth]

Getting it done - 🤚😞 Thinking about doing it - 👈☺️

[@brucebruno842]

At 5:27 she talks about Te trying to "solve problems" and "make it work" so everyone doesn't feel bad. Fe is prioritizing how people are feeling to find the best way to "solve problems" and "make it work". Who's good at what for this situation and who's up for what more so/interested=drive, and how will the work and communication flow best without any unnecessary interruptions. Time is money, lol! The 2, Te and Fe, work well together.

[@jennahumphrey1]

They are opposed because you can't do both at the same time. You use a different part of your brain to do the Thinking vs the Feeling. You have to shut off one to do the other. You can switch back and forth more quickly and efficiently with double deciding, but you are doing total switch offs/ons every time. Never both at the same time. (This would be the conventional application of Jung's theory of opposing functions at least.)

[@britneysham1232k10]

How I see it, T and F are deciders so they both prioritise. What does it mean to decide? Choosing between options by assigning value weightings to predicted outcomes of those options. T and F differ in how value is assigned. T is better at assigning value against principles followed and coherency. F is better at assigning value against sentiments considered and perspectives

[@N8swann]

I can completely relate to everything Shannon is saying. I feel and think the exact same way.

[@redfish3590]

I'm a person that, "get it done as fast as I can or I'm not going to do that forever I'll never touch that even until fullmoon"

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

They were just messing around, though. That “game they were playing” was not actual hierarchy. They were bantering.

[@xzamroom]

Lol I don't think anyone doubts that, it's a little obvious.

[@Bloo-J]

I agree. I’m not sure that you can really use this interaction as a way of understanding F vs T. It’s hard for me to see this kind of conversation not being relevant to a lot of people. Especially if you grew up in a larger family I think you will have an opinion about how birth order affects you and your siblings.

[@MbardGem]

Hum... The same way as Shan described Te it may be described as Fe. Te avoid BAD FEELINGS doing job for everyone. While Fe is caring for averyone to not have BAD JOB to be done. What bad job? Imagine situation where my hubs was pissed off because he was accused for something and angry go for a walk and had accident. Now I have to do my job as well as his job. Becuase I refused to help him with his emotions.

[@zeta8334]

Ah, that's inaccurate.

[@MbardGem]

@@zeta8334 yeah, I'm not good in being accurate 😀 I hope you got my point tho. Hum. You see how I tried to avoid the work of explainig by being nice to you? 😀

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

TI is not about getting it done since getting it done is an external movement done by a person in order to solve an issue. However, Ti is all about the internal logical ordering which can loosely be translated to the ordering of the mind . This means it's not an external activitiy you are visibly 'doing'. Te on the other hand actually is about getting it done , since Te is actually external logical ordering . Te plays out outside of the self in the external world (hence it's an extroverted function ) . This video is a huge misconception of what functions do and where they do it. Even though there is some difference about what the exactly defintion of TI is, in no system introverted thinking is related to 'doing things'. This video showcases a quite a significant misunderstanding of this function .

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@SailorSiFi So you're dead now?

[@RetroXRicardo]

I use my Fe to scan my surroundings and the people in my vicinity to create a pleasant and neutral environment. Whether it's a smile, starting conversation, or waving hello, it's on autopilot for me. So Shan calls it building blocks for Te, for Fe I call it a thermostat. I want to create a pleasant environment or I want to sense what my environment is like...

[@shannonthejeepgirl]

I’m an obsessive, live in my head thinker. When I was younger I used to date a lot just to distract myself from myself, but after dissecting them I would be done. Now, I don’t date anymore. Not because I don’t want to get hurt, but because I don’t want to hurt anyone. Also, because people are really weird and exhausting.

[@NadaAlawadhi]

4:10 Because there are feelings behind evaluating something there is something emotional! 🤣 Like hey the youngest kid is the worst because there are problems yes you’re mommy or daddy’s baby and manipulate that to get what you want but the older siblings will abuse the youngest kid 🥺 Jimmy is like oh so that’s the worst, why because if I was jimmy I would ask that question because I’m caring about Henry and hoping he didn’t get the worst thing. Or maybe his reason was that oh that’s the worst so you’ve had it tough so you’re tougher.

[@CJSmith30]

Note, this a theory and im just a guy who studies psychology with no degree to my name of any sense: I believe humans originally have S/F because their animalistic instincts and outside world stressors that the sensory take in, then it ultimately forces the animal only 2 actions no matter if the feeling is good or bad. The ultimate actions is fight or flight but to explain it better, engage or flee. Humans, idk how but they ultimately created a way to make another decision other than just fight or flight with Intuition and later developed the concept of society using thinking because intuition created new emotions and more, ways to wanna handle the situation, forcing humans to have to adapt to the T/N in order to balance their evolution

[@kyunhwoarang]

My two cents.. thinking is processing right and wrong.. while feeling is processing what you want.. so someone could become distant emotionally if the general feeling is not something that they want.. so after that, they could either feel this isn't right I should help or, this is too much a burden so I don't care.. Even for Fe user (which I think I hv 1st or 2nd), some situation could be overwhelming.. which causes the uncontrollable part of the brain making the body confuse.. ie new experiences, trauma.. and after some time, everyone appears numb.. like covid statistics, and some people made a race meme from day 1..

[@darthghitza8037]

I’m an ESTP and I avoid work as much as possible 😂 I do feel like I want to get things done though, like if I have to do something, I’ll try to get it done as soon as possible, but if I don’t actually have to do it, I will procrastinate the fuck out of it

[@zeelexorbzsche9673]

I think it is chemicals becoz fundamentally valuing is just sort of rating chemicals whether for the tribe or personally. Just like the thinkers r like good argument bad argument (Ti's do that too becoz it's based on what they think makes sense).

[@foreverstrivingstoic4293]

Thinking = manipulating info (either sensory or intution) for an objective?

[@royalpotato1908]

Feeling in Fe = manipulating the info for the human need of tribe. Refusing to call out facts that might ruin the vibe especially if xF, or shove the facts away, create an illusion and think that its okay to deal with the facts another day.

[@foreverstrivingstoic4293]

@@royalpotato1908 Feeling = reacting to info (either sensory or intuition) for an objective. The objective could be personal (introverted) or social.

[@gabrielpelegrini6135]

OOOHH so that's why I am so bad at categorizing - I always try to look for the _reasons_ why that thing is the best. Apparently, it's just a gut feeling then? What made me and other people have the most emotions is the best? Crazy huh

[@ellier2018]

I’m an ENFP so Fi and Te is in the middle of my stack… I still make decisions with Fi but tertiary Te’s always in the background bossing me around……

[@maxidyrin]

Can you make a video about how to deal with feminine Fi? i think many people would apreciate that😊

[@aoeuable]

"Get shit done" isn't a T vs F issue, it's a De thing.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

That is correct. Both Ti and Fi are about _internal ordering_ (evaluation) and Te and Fe about _external ordering_ (get things done). They are simply wrong about this. It's always a bit hit or miss in their system, so best is to be a bit skeptical at least

[@CaveyMoth]

@@PowerRedBullTypology This explains why, as a consume-play TiNe, I go into overdrive and get shizz done when I'm at work, versus being lazy at home. My demon Fe is what really gets me up and working.

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

@@CaveyMoth What I meant with 'hit or miss in their system' is how accurate OPS is ..it can either be right or not. In this case I do not think they are right that Ti want to get things done. At least not in the external world (so it's not related to _doing_ things).

[@michaelbindner9883]

Fi is about personal feelings. Fe is observing what the tribe feels. Ni is wanting to figure out the facts for the self.

[@endgamez7621]

ni is literally intuition, what facts does it care about unless u look at its dual function of se used in conjunction with it

[@michaelbindner9883]

Te observes tribal dogma (tribal thinking). Getting things done for the tribe is Ne.

[@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר]

No it's not Not in this theory Where do you take you're info from

[@michaelbindner9883]

@@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר the same place Jung did. You are doing Te defense of dogma. Another example: Ni does options for self-interest. ENTJ succeed by merging their interests with tribal dogma. This is why they are in management and why managers are real bastards.

[@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר]

@@michaelbindner9883 the e and I on the intuition is not about self and tribe. It's about a variety or narrowing down This theory is a specific description of the functions The functions aren't real. They define a pattern, a concept. What you call ne, is not what this channel calls ne. Therefore, the argument is pointless. You may be correct , I don't know. but not in this definition and theory of objective personality. You may want to check that out if you want to understand what they are speaking of exactly, when they say te and ne.

[@michaelbindner9883]

@@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר specific and wrong. I have been thinking about S. It could be Senory or Sensuality or it could be the Tribe's story. To be Jungian, ego and collective unconscious need to be integrated. My POV does that.

[@endgamez7621]

@@michaelbindner9883 jung literally said if that he made another "-ism" he failed in his task of being a psychologist

[@sssss5598]

I believe that I dont belong to any of your 512 personalities. I think you can expand more. The 512 per-s takes only account of one decider rod and one observer rod in a function stack. My function stack have 2 observer rods. To be more specific, my function stack is Ni-Ne-Si-Se. I believe this because i dont belong to any of the four animals. However, My lead animal is similar to sleep. My last animal is similar to blast.

[@wthwommy6279]

or maybe you just don't actually understand the Ni meaning behind their definitions

[@natclo9229]

dissociated vs associated

[@natclo9229]

What are the options vs which ones work for me and if you don't move between you are decider first

[@פוליטיקטינסקיקליינר]

What if I always prioritize ... With reason and logic..?

[@susankievman642]

Are you serious???? If the world didnt have types that like to get things accomplished, nothing would change or improve or move forward. You need both types of people, feelers and thinkers. We all have our important roles.

[@wendymurray8756]

If the measurement is "getting things done" then TE dom wins by a yard. Yes, Fi will slow you down, but that is rather the point. You can't really win at feeling nuance going 100 miles an hour. The math for winning at life is different in many ways.. maybe 512 ways.

[@Khan_is_mongol]

THERE IS NO WAY THE GUY IS INTJ...NO WAY. YOU ARE BOTH CONFUSED

[@infernal..]

I am SOO an F

[@actazrath5878]

This is offensive

[@jimmygarcia6766]

Feeler?