Disenchantment Part 4: Two Steps Forward, One Step Back

[@jbcatz5]

The way the show did returning characters this season was satisfying. The cameos of the people Bean killed in Hell, the laughing horse, the Vikings from season 1, Ursula etc, the show now can do this in an almost Easter egg type way.

[@haroldhonderslo8776]

Ye good

[@socialistwhore2132]

KZbin recommend this and I'm so glad I'm crying and subing and pray for season 5

[@kristaw206]

I had forgot about most of these characters though unfortunately, and had to be reminded lol

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Oh my. 666 likes.😈

[@diegojerez2791]

I like rewatching the whole series every time a new season comes out. You always find connections and stuff the creators might have thought about ahead. For example, you can see freckles and the ventriloquist dummy shop in the very first episode.

[@psychosomaticstatic]

I remember people seeing Jasper in the background of a scene MONTHS ago and (correctly) theorizing that he's Zøg and Ursula's kid

[@hale.yscomet]

You can also see the Trogs in season 2 when Elfo is exploring underground a whole season before they were introduced

[@calhuh1232]

Same

[@FennecFoxFairy]

There is a trog with Derreks toys when he and Elfo are playing together

[@calebpfremmer7148]

Don't forget the goo is fed to the octopus before it becomes a giant and goes on a rampage

[@panspermiapancakes]

They never seem to officially kill off a character but Merkimer's absence was noticeable.

[@zonebro6205]

That's the problem. We know that if any of them die they can easily be brought back.

[@a_cynical_mad_man_vods]

They killed off Penderghast

[@aaroncarroll2417]

Sad

[@aaroncarroll2417]

@@a_cynical_mad_man_vods Now he's a Penderghost

[@MR-SINISTER76]

@@aaroncarroll2417 yeah and as weve seen even he can be brought back under the right circumstances if the writers choose to do it

[@jbcatz5]

Dagmar continues to be the weakest link of the show. She’s often used as an end of season deus ex machina, a means to facilitate sudden change and intrigue but that only worked the first time with the end of season one and start of season two. She’s still such a frustratingly vague character in terms of motivation, Inside Job did a much better job of the toxic parent relationship in one season than Disenchantment has done its whole runtime with Bean and Dagmar.

[@Introv3r7]

agreed.

[@sarahzahira7432]

True tho

[@scaper8]

The most frustrating thing about her for me is the vague character motivation you mentioned. There are zero clues to what the hell she's doing. Her machinations seem tied to, but totally divorced from, Clyde and Becky's, the trøg's, and Hell's. And much of her actions in each sphere seem somewhat contrary to the others. Even with the Hell stuff, it's frustratingly unclear whether she wanted to be Queen of Hell or not, and if not did she just roll with it and is using it to further her real goals? She is the very incarnation of "evil, but vauge, sinister machinations that drive conflict." I think her character has real potential, especially as she does seem to be the ultimate Big Bad of the show; but, damn it, give her something clear as to _what does she really want._ I'm certain that they want her to be mysterious and that's where all of this is coming from, but there's "mysterious" and then there's "vauge to the point of disinterest."

[@jordanread5829]

@@scaper8 I think at this point her motivation is simply absolute power. And she is willing to use anyone who achieve that. Whether it is the trogs, her siblings, Steamland or even her own daughter.

[@jbcatz5]

@@jordanread5829 It’d be nice if we got more of her than the season openers and closers. Love is Hell hints that she was playing a long game to get Bean to that altar with Satan, but because Bean is enacting an escape attempt this never gets elaborated on in the episode. Bean Breaks Down, the season finale, implies Bean was told of Dagmar’s intentions but didn’t think it worth remembering (Bad Bean says she’s the Bean who remembers everything she’s seen and heard) but none of the onscreen interactions support this and you’d think Bean would take note especially after the season two opener. The writers didn’t plan out her arc, despite retroactive claims otherwise.

[@CoryTheNorm]

"Two Steps Forward, One Step Back" seems to perfectly describe every season of this show.

[@zonebro6205]

So....one step forward?

[@feuerteufel7813]

Honestly, this season felt more like two steps back, one step forward.

[@zonebro6205]

@@feuerteufel7813 So it's the exact footing

[@VardrunCRidleyKnight]

@ Martin Ward No, that would be one step back

[@zonebro6205]

@@VardrunCRidleyKnight True.

[@calvinboucher5741]

They actually foreshadowed Bad Bean in the first episode of part 4 when Lucifer looked into the mirror and we saw a fatter more evil looking version of him. I think the mirror realm will probably play a bigger role going forward.

[@scaper8]

That's a good catch. I thought that was such an odd shot that didn't seem to pay off, but I think you may be on to something there.

[@jbcatz5]

@@scaper8 Something else without apparent pay off is Steamland having a contract with Hell. It’s used to hand wave why a Hell lift comes out in Alva’s office, and presumably so there’s a means to reunite Elfo with the group (and a cameo guest appearance of the laughing horse). It’s another Steamland plot thread left dangling, along with the Archdruidess and her own connection to the city. As the first half of the next season will doubtless go to Steamland in order to rescue Zog, Derek and Bearboy, hopefully any remaining Steamland storylines can be wrapped up or given satisfactory pay off then.

[@swanchamp5136]

When I first saw that I thought it was just trying to show that the Devil was hiding his true form and the mirror was revealing he isn't as dapper as he appears.

[@Torthrodhel]

@@scaper8 I didn't connect it either. But it makes total sense.

[@bigchungus8287]

I always thought that he that was just to prove that he isn’t as char one and handsome because Bean would never marry a fat slob

[@analuisa6675]

About the ginger mermaid, it reminded me of a throaway line said by Mora's sister to Bean in Part 3: "So Bean, you have a thing for mermaids. First Saphirya and now Mora". Bean seemed confused and Mora quickly said "I don't care about what Bean did in the past". With this new season, it leads me to believe that the battle Mora mentioned while explaining the mermaid constellation was the battle we saw in Part 4, and that Saphirya was the ginger mermaid that was turned into a constellation and led the mermaids into their new home. Now, I think that Dagmar killed Saphirya, as part of her plan to take over Dreamland, and that Mora's sister has confused her with Bean. Which would explain why Mora's sister was acting so passive-aggressively towards Bean.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

This is really good! I’m rewatching the series now I’m definitely gonna pay close attention when I get there

[@analuisa6675]

Thank you! Big fan of ur videos, i feel like they elevate my viewing experience of shows. keep up the good work!

[@chrismurphyracing94]

I think Saphirya was the Mermaid from part 2 when they found Elfos body. It's heavily implied Bean slept with her

[@bigchungus8287]

@@chrismurphyracing94 yeah she was the one who nibbled her ears

[@falconeshield]

@@bigchungus8287 The Sangria fingirl I think

[@PandoraLawliet]

One of the few things I don't like about Bean is how she NEVER tries to ask Dagmar about her destiny/profecy/why she's doing what she's doing. Dagmar seems to be the type of villain who will explain the evil plan if asked. Bean will always insult and replicate Dagmar but she never asks anything... It's so frustating! What I did love this season is the bonding with Zog, I love how they're really trying to have a better father/daughter relationship talking things through

[@whoo227]

Another hint to mop girl potentially taking the throne is that when Bean tells Zog the throne has been overtaken, Zog guesses mop girl and bucket boy to be one of the potential suspects. Idk if this means Zog might know something about Mary or if it was just a throw away line, but I thought that was interesting I'm also curious as to what the King Trog meant when he said drinking the goo "gives you what you deserve" when he warned Leavo from drinking it

[@kaido8452]

Bean asked Mary aka mop girl how she will solved the problems and mary replied which problem like the kingdom problem (means she has plans for the kingdom) or the bean problem

[@melissabailey1777]

There was actually lots of potential foreshadowing that mop girl will be queen. Zog calls her your majesty in one of the new episodes. I’ve seen theorises about mop girl being the rightful ruler of dreamland so I was watching her scenes extra closely. They also never followed up from mop girls potential powers which were very briefly hinted to in the season 3 finale, I was actually a bit disappointed that they didn’t follow that up at all.

[@kelen_tate]

Bean also replied, "who's bucket boy?" which implies there might be something more going on there. I was surprised Johnny didn't touch on King Trøg's, "You don't get what you want, you get what you deserve!" warning line to Leavo. It felt very important to me when I watched it.

[@falconeshield]

Miri, her name is Miri

[@whoo227]

@@falconeshield In episode 8 of part 4 Luci calls her Mary based off the closed captions and she said "You're the first person to call me by my real name."

[@Somethingclever11111]

You know it's kinda hilarious out of all of Bean's would be husbands the Devil was arguably the most respectful of her and has yet to break character if it's an act

[@foegettergames252]

Possibly written as reference to the fact that the story of Lucifer in other cultures is one of love towards humans

[@fandomonium3789]

I noticed while watching is, as Freckles is tucking in Zog, he does the circular forehead thing Dagmar does to put Bean to sleep. He's definitely connected to the family and/or Maru.

[@falconeshield]

Freckles is Dagmar

[@brew_guy8947]

Freckles is Zogs roommate from the asylum. He can go into dreams.

[@justanotherdarnell]

@@brew_guy8947 giggles was it?

[@scrappykoko4871]

There was a theory (maybe on this channel?) that Freckles is Zog and Dagmar's son (Bean's brother) if the puppet seller was Dagmar

[@brew_guy8947]

What if, the puppetstore owner is actually Dagmars nice side who seduced Zog and had Freckels, saw he was evil and transferred him into a puppet. Damn Zog is a real ladies man.😅

[@nervous_wreck8726]

Season 4’s first few episodes felt cluttered due to the fact they had to resolve so many cliffhangers from Season 3. Elfo’s capture, Luci’s death, Bean’s new royal status, Zog being in the insane asylum. It all felt so nice at the end of Part 3, but the fact they had to resolve ALL of that before mid-season felt kinda offputting.

[@sadiedisenchantment2334]

I agree on the Miri theory and am I the only on that realizes that there is kinda another hint of her being royal? Bean asks (Part 2, episode 1) if she has any cousins. If Miri is the daughter of Yog then yes... she does.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Oh shiiiiit that's big

[@falconeshield]

@@Johnny2Cellos Don't forget that she's hinted to be a witch too!

[@Paulmccartney0108]

I could easily be wrong, but her voice even sounds like the elves or at least the elf king

[@gracekim1998]

Oooo that’s a definite possibility

[@overlordofthepies]

Though the story was a bit more clunky then last season, I REALLY enjoyed the respect the characters were given, really nice to see tertiary characters come back with their own through lines, and other characters get a chance to develop - particularly Zog, Luci and Jerry. I hope the show does have a bit more than 20 eps left, it feels like it is finally getting an identity of it's own. Amazing progress from the first season.

[@Retro_Red]

8:09 I believe this is Bean's great-grandmother or something like that, probably why Maru has a deal with Hell. Also, Luci/Guci, loosey-goosey.

[@ITSMeatMan]

In my experience, the show gets better on rewatch. Seeing things that will play out later can be quite fun

[@SImrobert2001]

True, but I mean, that is part of the problem. I have to watch it twice to get the full entertainment out of it. Yet, at the same time, I get to watch how the mermaid war didn't really have any effect, on society, and how everything seems to be one plot point rush after another.

[@jbcatz5]

Something I’d like to see in Part 5 is Elfo’s growing disillusionment with humans after learning more about the history of Dreamland. That could lead to a big shake up with the status quo, something the show has had issues with in the past and be a big thing for Elfo as a character.

[@kelen_tate]

I agree. Especially with the episode showing how easily Elfo can be persuaded to spy on his people for Bean, maybe we'll even see Elfo decide to go against humans as Dreamland's history is revealed, and finally take a stand based on his own feelings and not Bean's.

[@daniels7907]

I think that he's just bitter in general at this point. It's not as if the elves treat him well (they did try to *execute* him you may recall!) and I think that his grousing about humans has more to do with his sense of rejection and mistreatment by Bean. Keep in mind that he was *literally* in *Heaven* and she talked him into returning to life (and possibly being eternally damned) just because she missed him (but doesn't love him).

[@daniels7907]

@@fischy947 - The ogres tried to kill him (repeatedly) as well. Not like he has a ready and willing army there either. If anything, that would pit him against the elves and trogs, not just the humans. Too many factions want Dreamland and the elves and ogres are not even top tier competitors.

[@sketchyjeff2054]

For a while I REALLY couldn’t see where this show was going, but part four and this video seemed to give a much clearer direction, so I hope it doesn’t get canned before it’s allowed to end in favor of more Futurama. While I love Futurama (far more than disenchantment tbh) I still would much rather see Bean, Elfo and Luci finish their story. I can definitely see how we’re building towards unity across all types of people in Dreamland, a conflict between humans and mermaids (and therefore Bean and Mora), a final confrontation with Dagmar, and eventually, Miri taking the throne. I feel like Bean wouldn’t be happy as ruler, and I feel like towards the climax of the show, Zøg will die for real, probably to save Bean.

[@jbcatz5]

Disenchantment is Netflix, the Futurama revival is Hulu, different streaming services. Outside of the US, because Hulu is one of those geoblocked services, it’ll likely be Disney+.

[@moon_and_water]

The Elf Trog relation is so simple, so maybe seatrogs are mermaids who drank the goo

[@scaper8]

And/or Mermaid-Trøg hybrids. (Possibly Mermaid-Elf hybrids and they always look more Trøg-like?)

[@daniels7907]

Although some kind of radical mutation would still be required, as the Sea Trogs are blatantly part-nematodes, not part-fish.

[@scaper8]

@@daniels7907 It is possible that Elves, Trøgs, Mermaids, or some combination thereof already do have some sort of larval stage themselves and we just haven't seen it. Granted this is also applying waybmore thought to this than they probably did, LOL.

[@Char-mv3fc]

I'm so excited for part 5. Bunty keeps mentioning a revolution, and we see the kingdom falling apart in part 4. I think the townspeople will finally rise up and Miri will become queen, like your theory suggests. I wonder if they'll make Miri out to be the bad guy and an unfit, tyrannical ruler and Bean has to take the throne back, or if Miri will reunite the trogs, elves, mermaids, and other species into a happy kingdom, therefore exiling Bean and making her go on her own. They have so many options, and I can't wait to see what they do.

[@ComicalRealm]

the worldbuilding, the animation, the characters, the themes and setting. This show is seriously a gem

[@recitationtohear]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJy3m2WQhL-VrdU Finally yes :{]

[@marioricomeza2839]

It's funny!

[@fillebubben]

If only the writing wasn’t so painfully unfocsed and bad.

[@sarahzahira7432]

@@fillebubben despite written by staffs of Futurama.

[@scaper8]

@@fillebubben Yep. It's a gem, but one with some pretty decent flaws in its cut.

[@ShinForgotPassxXx]

This whole season felt like a setting things up for the next season. In the first episode it wanted no time, got them all out of there quickly, brought Lucy back, got jeri onboard, and then we are off. The rest of the first half of the season operated like this too. Landed in steam world, got a cruise ship, picked up Elmo, zodd etc. they spent the whole season to tie up loose story ends, bring all characters back, make sure everyone knows everyone, explain mysterious story parts, like the elf’s Trogs etc. They levelled the playfield and now we are off for a new 20 episode season with all new stories and interaction with the characters.On the outside the season is kinda weak, but it needed to be or else the show would be in a rut, plot would be stale and repeat itself, nothing new and fresh will happen. For me this is a step forward into the right direction and not two back one forward.

[@pinkbunnyskyedoesthings7762]

I feel like that's a good way to put it

[@cameronspalding9792]

@2:37 to be fair: Dagmar’s plan to kill Zog was scuppered by Bean switching the glasses and this was something that she didn’t prepare for

[@Char-mv3fc]

That's something I really like about the show. Dagmar isn't a super evil genius who keeps her cool all the time. She loses her temper, gets flustered, and wants everything to go her way. I'm really curious to see what they'll do with her "Queen of Hell" sideplot

[@mepollack]

This season was definitely weaker than S3, but still stronger than the first 2. That being said, I am also tiring of the “next thing, move on” mentality of the events of the series. It doesn’t really let us sit with and enjoy any changes, even big ones, largely confining them to a single episode or two and bringing back the status quo by random chance or unlikely events. Would like the series to take what it’s doing a bit more seriously in future seasons.

[@JaneDoe-po4gu]

agreed about the blood hand thing, watching it genuinely excited me it was so well done and looked so cool

[@DrDonaldGillbert]

Think it's possible since Bean got trapped in the mirror world, there's a potential Dagmar got switched at some point also. So there's potentially a good Dagmar locked in the mirror dimension...

[@Kinkajou420]

I bet you Luci is going to be promoted to a lord of hell at some point due to him both tricking god and multiple lords of darkness at this point, I mean he also literally fell from heaven.

[@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei]

It's also interesting to see Miri and Luci actually having some kind of relationship. Like they spent time with each other all the time, Luci even tells her his "darkest secret" that he is actually quite nice and she answers "I know" which was kinda a sweet moment... you know, for a mop girl and a demon from hell.

[@ThomtownHD]

Season 4 was actually my favourite season so far due to the fact that it felt like the story was going onwards every episode instead of having filler in the middle of the season.

[@KiraNoOkami13]

Since we've seen what "evil" bean could do, and the the fact that Zog seems to know about evil counterparts taking over in dreamland.. Maybe the same happened to Dagmar and the "good" Dagmar is the puppet shop shopkeeper.

[@exotic_logic]

i was just thinking this while watching. someone else said that the mirror realm was the culprit for this & i really feel like zogs description of why dreamland is named that has something to do with it

[@Neckbeardlevel]

I was disappointed when I noticed Merkimers actor was not in the credits. He wasn't even mentioned by name, sad. Hopefully they'll solve whatever issues they had (probably scheduling or pay) and Merkimer will be in the freakshow at the beginning of part 5.

[@davidalves31057]

Probably scheduling problems, Matt Berry (the actor) also does that show What We Do In The Shadows, which is filmed in Canada.

[@Xen8008]

Damn I thought the show had been cancelled, I’m glad to see it continue, I hope all the story threads can eventually tie together and make sense! High hopes for this season!

[@_kirb_]

Same. Not to sass the show, I really love it, but holy heck, it's something I expected to be cancelled seasons ago.

[@unknown-wt3kh]

so, a theory i have on elfo's future in the show is that when he drinks the goo, he will turn full ogre instead of turning into a trog. the line where they said that elfo was named elfo in order to always remind him that he's part elf makes me thing that will be what happens when he drinks the goo. great video btw!

[@mikeliturria1243]

Very interesting

[@drewhalcro6082]

The mermaid queen depicted is the ancestor of Zog and Bean. The red hair, warrior spirit and this also explains the families' attraction to nonhumans. I theorise that Freckles is the one casting the lightning in the flashback and that he made himself "immortal" by inhabiting his spirit in a puppet. I speculate that Bean will end up being the mermaid queen and Elfo will in some way end up leading an Elf/Trog/Ogre/Gnome army to attack the goons and demons. All united in Dreamland with Bean on the throne, just as she wanted.

[@pepesilvia429]

Someone needs to teach the writers of this show that sometimes it's fine if a joke lasts less than five seconds

[@ohazeldean]

Right? The jokes dragged ON in s4

[@mischievousjr.9299]

Yup

[@J3assbox]

yeah, it really annoyed me when lucy made that 30s "look iam doing stupid shit" joke. overall, lucy was kinda "meh" in S4. Rewatching it right know and god damm, he was so good in S2.

[@rhodrage]

Ok so, Elves and Mermaids fought humans together. And Trogs are Elves. So it makes sense to me that Sea Trogs are Mermaids.

[@theJennicat]

exactly

[@1billsookie]

Or elf-mermaid hybrids?

[@MDW1101]

@@1billsookie This. Half elf, half mermaid plus goo.

[@falconeshield]

@@MDW1101 That's disgusting

[@MaureenMurphy_]

I thought the sea trogs were just elves that got thrown out like the trogs are the ones who went underground and then the sea trogs are just ones that adapted to the water but then here comes in the question of how did they adapt to the water? So maybe you are right

[@ordinaryotaku3066]

Johnny i think freckles is yog besides the similar features it makes sense that hes working with dagmar cloyd and becky to get the magic back to bring him to life soon he can go back to ruling dreamland this also allows to to figuratively be a puppet for them in the castle cementing their power, he also knows about secrets and events between zog and yog

[@danielgertler5976]

I thought mop girl was cool and all, but your theory video about her being so important made her probably my favourite character.

[@Guess_the_movie1]

She's like Cinderella at this point

[@alexao6319]

Even though part 4 seemed a bit lacking compared to part 3, it's jokes and bits had me laughing more than anything else I've seen recently. I give it a solid 10 on entertainment.

[@Guess_the_movie1]

Yeah lol especially when elfo given a toy dagger from his mom

[@jordanloux3883]

Dude, you have to talk about Kid Cosmic. It is the perfect salve for anyone tired of morally ambiguous heroes.

[@stephaniewilliams6756]

Kid Cosmic is a show that feels like a warm friends hug

[@smithyMcjoe]

In some instances I felt it was the "and then" writing style rather than "results of action" that took it out a little for me. Saw the Elfo story coming but not the details which was nice, Zogs story was really nice too and seeing my favourite character come out of his funk was very satisfying from on the run Loon to Wash Brother and back to King and the work with Ursula and Jasper made me love that dude all the more. Even though both of them are a little brief I think they handled what was needed without inflating the episode run or cutting into an already criminally short season episode count. Also, Imma call it, Freckles is Yog, you heard it here first ladies, gentlemen, and those none binary. Yog never died, merely manipulated into a puppet form by the Maruvians. Hence why Freckles wants the power structure weakened, rightfully it's his , for me it'll all but confirm it if we see him trying to fuck with Dagmar whilst she's on the Dreamland Throne. Dagmar seems to be working separately from Becky and Cloyd now. Everyone loves a sweet interspecies lesbian love story! Where do you stand on Dreamland being that fantasy kingdom we see rise up whilst Fry is in Cryostasis?

[@Char-mv3fc]

I think that Yog actually did die, but he was working with Dagmar and she/Becky and Cloyd needed him for their plan to work. I think Dagmar worked with him because he was next in line, it didn't matter if she killed Yog or Zog- she's queen either way. He would most likely work with her because the plan appealed to him. We don't know a lot about Yog, but I don't think he was as shallow when it came to looks, he knew what Dagmar wanted. When he died, I think they put his consciousness or soul into Freckles, similarly to how Becky and Cloyd did.

[@mischievousjr.9299]

@@Char-mv3fc damn what a bold claim, about Yog being Freckles. That'd be kinda cool but way too funky, still something to look forward towards to.

[@AgentKyo]

Disenchantment is a show is weirdly one of the best rewatch shows out there. Everytime I finished a seaons, I'm compelled to rewatch the entire series. For example, Stryker was referenced all th way back in Part 1 when Zog ask Pendercast who were his best knights. Now I'm trying to find & figure out who Bolt is?

[@kelsorose9236]

the mop girl theory is so crazy !! Shared with a few friends. Couldn’t get over it while watching I was thinking of your video like OMG !!! Keep it UP!! Loved this recap as well

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Thanks Kelso :)

[@scaper8]

@@Johnny2Cellos Definitely seems like it's paying off, all the beats from this part match pretty well. One weird thing I noticed? The closed captioning on Netflix called her "Mary" when she and Luci were talking. At first I thought that they were going to explicitly make "Miri" and "Mary" different characters and ruin the theory, but it may be just a captioning mistake. I'm going to have to go back and check the captioning in the coffee episode too.

[@benkylo8015]

I enjoyed this season but it felt like it was spinning its wheels story wise. With the shows future uncertain I was scarred we'd get a Twin Peaks ending but thankfully they resolved that arc before leaving on a not too bad cliffhanger. All in all I wished we'd gotten a bit more urgency from the story.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

We are all but certainly getting more episodes. The question is how many.

[@benkylo8015]

@@Johnny2Cellos I hope so! I'd be happy for another two (10 episode) seasons. I think you mentioned that in a prior video and that would be the sweet spot for this show before it loses steam.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Yeah I definitely expect that it will be leading to the series finale. I think Netflix would afford Groening & co the freedom to write a real ending. We'll see!

[@Deadbeatpoets]

I think the mermaid from the battlefield is the same mermaid in the stars from when Bean and Morra first met. this would also make that character the metaphorical heart that bean wears as a necklace.

[@kateryna7872]

The show has established such vast geography and so many characters are becoming more and more interesting (Miri, Ouna, Jerry etc. etc.) I feel like we need more parts or at least more episodes per part))) I love how "the gang" seemingly expands, now sometimes including Jerry or Miri and I love how that changes the dynamic. On top of that, it's just super fun seeing them trying to sneak around as a bigger and, frankly, not very graceful group. Also, I am really curious about all those pictures of Zog (is it Zog?) looking as a merman.

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

I've been loving this series from start to finish, absolute gem that I can't believe is on Netflix AND made by Matt Groening

[@aylaanyad]

My favorite things about this season are Zog’s character development and him getting better in terms of his mental health, plus Jerry’s comeback

[@merchantfan]

I thought the part with the worms was super creepy- when this show goes dark it can really go icky. The comedy continues to feel like a detour most of the time. It feels like they should have mainly made it an adventure show and that they're only doing comedy bc it's a Groening show

[@JaneDoe-po4gu]

the worm scenes were SO creepy

[@exotic_logic]

the zog "worms in your ass" line will always send me though

[@mandipandi303]

The entire time I was watching the new season I was thinking of this video. Miri is DEFINITELY the heir to Dreamland.

[@ghostdragon5735]

I love this season. Elfo’s history made me cry a little, I love how his mom never forgot him or threw him away. I love how zog heals himself and tries to do better. I love it

[@tysondennis1016]

I really love how the writers are able to make different episodes focus on different characters and settings while all branching from one point, and converging into another point.

[@d.phantomfan1216]

I really love how the show ended but watching this makes me realize all love the plows they didn't resolve.

[@twilightrocketeer4840]

My prediction for the Freckles storyline is actually that he is controlled/personifying Yog, Zog's older Brother who was turned to stone years before the series started. Maybe once Zog was in line for the throne, they brought him back to life in Maru and convinced them to help her. Not to mention, they held back his voice during the entire flashback sequence with Zog.

[@kevinhedman2314]

You are forgetting an important detail. Zog would 100 percent recognize yogs voice.

[@twilightrocketeer4840]

@@kevinhedman2314 I agree in some respects, but it's also a possibility the voice is just so exaggerated that Zog hasnt noticed. He was just crazy when Freckles came into the story and could have just stopped questioning it in season 4. Who knows, it's a pretty loose theory as it is, just thought it would be a little fun to share.

[@hfsk123]

I thought this too! They have the same haircut!

[@oscarmorales8979]

I enjoyed this video. While I really enjoyed part 4 there was room for improvement. First thing is absence and lack of character like Prince Merkimer being completely absent, Pendergast’s fate if he went to heaven or hell and a lot less of Odval. I definitely agree that the first 3 episodes could’ve been worked better and that the plots felt rushed. Otherwise, I really enjoy Elfo’s and Miri’s character development. Seeing all of Bean’s enemies and people she has killed in hell or haunting her nightmares was one for my books. Also, I’m really hoping for [bad pun incoming] Mora of Bean’s relationship in part 5 because I fukin stan for Mora x Bean. I give this part 4, 8 out of 10. Great but with some room for improvement.

[@hadessonofcronus1826]

One of my biggest gripes was how Zog never health with Odval, he seemingly has all his memory back and knows what happened to him yet it just glosses over the fact that he tried to have him killed. It can only be justified slightly with Odval saving Bean from being shot by her Aunt, really that just shows that he isn't all bad or does have some principles. Ik Odval's quite a prevalent character but I felt annoyed there was no acknowledgement.

[@TheCommenterDragon]

I enjoyed part 4, but the way it ended makes me really hope that they do a part 5 because the show can't just end with a cliffhanger like that leaving so many things unresolved so yeah a part 5 is definitely needed, but anyway i overall enjoyed part 4 despite it having it's ups and downs.

[@X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.X.]

Unpopular opinion: that episode with the whole Hansel and Gretel thing that was basically solved in one episode, making it feel like a side quest was fun, and I love the cameos

[@MiBrin]

I thought the same about Miri. York must be her father. I'm just a little bit confused because of this one thing Becky, Dagmar's sister, said to her... something like she chose the other side or so.

[@Gurgamo]

The character Big Joe coming back from every death, and flaming-arrow-to-the-chest guy always returning pretty much establishes that the Disenchantment team understands our concerns about deaths not seeming meaningful, and they aren't trying to make us an audience think a death is permanent, it's for the characters.

[@FinalFerak12]

If youre right about Mop Girl it would probably support your theory about the theme of the show to be Unity. She would be the bridge to fix the damage the Ogg line and Bean have done.

[@MrDevin1125]

So I just marathoned all four of your season recaps of this show and I just want to say you've given me a much greater appreciation for a show I was about to write off. I really feel like I should go back and watch it from the beginning to really appreciate it. Hopefully it gets renewed for at least one more season so we can get some answers to all the cliff hangers haha

[@botermossel]

I personally think that there's so much more to the sea trogs. The episode was really disturbing and it definetly left me with some theories: 1. I think that the sea trogs use the worms like the trogs use the sacred goo 2. I also think that sea trogs are elven AND mermaid-like. I think that this also can have some correlation to the big battle. Here's another theory I have: Freckles could be inhabited by Merkimer. Merkimer knows the castle and so does Freckles. This could also explain the absence of Merkimer in the season

[@princeflame295]

Your content is so good man. Thanks so much for breaking down the seasons!

[@Woodex80085]

I personally liked the first half of the season better. I feel that soon after as they settled back into Dreamland again, the relationship between the main 3 felt kinda off. The season 1 refrences were all over the season too. I noticed lots of ways they took characters off screen so the animation was easier. Also I knew that horse on the hill was gonna be laughing horse.

[@PhilospherDjPsychologist24]

Something about the way she picks up the dagger , or holds it, before the flashback, it was like she was the one that was using it, like stabbing the mermaid, if the mystery murderer has Bean's powers, maybe its a memory she uncovered from a past life, it would be very adventure time

[@SunshineLanxy]

Best part for me was how insane asylum randomly captured Big Joe and how Porky smiled for the first time It was the biggest "I did not see this comming" in my life

[@gachabrony6946]

Same reaction as my friend.

[@ponyponfolio6671]

Mine too.

[@myleskgallagher]

My favorite parts of this....part....were Jerry and Mop Girl (Mary) expansion as characters. They're 2 of the best side characters and I'm glad they're getting more attention.

[@kokepasu4583]

I think that Bean is a reincarnation of the person in the flashback of the elf battle. I also think this is the person depicted in the painting in Maru.

[@kp12_art]

I actually really like this review, normally I’m scared to watch reviews because they’re always a little biased & as someone who usually has unpopular opinions when it comes to favourites, I don’t enjoy reviews, but this is extremely unbiased & I appreciate every word you said. This is very well put together 🧡

[@greasedupdeafguy9748]

You perfectly described how I felt watching the first three episodes

[@elmu6783]

Literally finished this part up and was wondering if you had a video on it yet just to see it posted today 🙏 perfect timing!

[@MegaConkster]

Elves are trogs who drank the goo... "This also raises questions about sea trogs," but where do the elf-like trolls from the vault heist episode fit into all of this? Also, in that episode, when Lucy is revealing that he was onto the fake elves' duplicity, he thought he had them figured out as dwarves in disguise. We haven't seen dwarves yet (to my knowledge), but if the demon thinks that dwarves can pass for elves, perhaps they're not all that different. So here's my take on this: Disenchantment IS in the same universe as Futurama but despite it's fantasy medieval setting, it's not an ancient civilization but probably a rebuilt civilization after one of the the destruction of modern civilization that we saw in more than one episode of Futurama. If I had to guess, elves and trogs and sea trogs and trolls and gnomes and ogres and pretty much every non-human thing we're seeing actually all lead back to humanity as either mutations... initially stimulated from radioactive fallout from the fall of civilization and then further mutated over the years under different factors. For example, let's say from human we got little humans and big humans... and then somewhere along the way "magic" is discovered and the little humans evolve into elves, with even more mutation leading to things like fairies while the big humans lead a life of "the strong shall survive" and into ogres over time with the biggest and strongest having "mating privileges" that ensured that big humans just got bigger (and likely less smart as those with the genetic potential for more smarts fell out of the gene pool). And, after ogres, we know there are even bigger humanoids running around with giants like Tess... probably either a further mutation of the "big humans" or an evolutionary offshoot of the ogres. All of this would explain why these creatures are still genetically compatible, giving us a possible half-elf with mop girl and Elfo being the otherwise very unlikely elf/ogre hybrid. If I had to guess about the gnomes, they took the opposite genetic path from ogres... with the small humans mutation breeding down into even smaller people over time, focusing more on intelligence over strength to give them their survival advantage.

[@SaraBanartist]

I just love how it's established by that one elf meeting that the characters of the show are just as in the dark as the audience.

[@fredricotraversiere8868]

I love your Disenchantment videos Johnny 2 Cellos your video awesome 👍😎😀👏❤

[@hjones6829]

Honestly so impressed with how quickly this video was uploaded, especially given the Futurama announcement, props to you

[@orionh5535]

They are trying to manage back to back mystery box plotting, lore, character development, and jokes. I appreciate the ambition, though they dont always pull it off

[@saltinecracker2946]

I did not like how much effort they put into Zog's story line with the monks or whatever got completely overshadowed instantaneously. I guess its like a Bojack story, but he is shown stealing a bunch of gold from the sea slugs/trogs. It just seems like a useless story line for a show that seems to have every story be meaningful in the future. But, like stated in the video, they do seem to have large cliffhangers that disappear very quickly. I also want to say that Alva was being questioned a lot about the elevator, which was never brought up again. This would be something I would like to know more about. Did I forget/miss something?

[@julianaalves6591]

We discovered some things and they don't put new things, so I'm glad about that. This 4 season is more focused in the characters so I think they close to the conclusion.

[@LadyHawke78]

Late to the party here but I also think that having Zog’s children finding love and relationships with other races (Derek and with a pixie, Bean with a mermaid) will also have some sort of significance as well. I mean, the series started out with Zog married to Oona - who wasn’t human either. Some sort of parable for overcoming prejudice or something.

[@crumbumkyle185]

Keep up the great work with these videos!!! Really well done

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Thanks!

[@alfieingrouille1528]

I love and I love that with each season they add more lore let's just hope that each season progressively gets better and better quality wise

[@aleksarogan]

Just enjoying being inside the Dreamland with the slow pace of plot being moved forward.

[@JaneDoe-po4gu]

the ursula being alive reveal should have been saved for the next season, it would have been more rewarding

[@falconeshield]

In P2, there was a portrait of an old lady from the Maru Palace that didn't look like the others. (14:52, S2 Ep 1) She's holding a scroll and looks like the first Moon crown wearer. Before her none of the Maru rulers are wearing it. Wonder if she'll be important in next seasons.

[@jadenburns314]

With the next and final season dropping today would love to see another video like this about ithe show as a whole

[@InsidePhil]

I don’t know when all those bottles of magic goo popped into shows universe, but if Trogs and their society have been turning themselves into Trogs with it ever since the elves got America’d from Dreamland, then Dagmar more than likely knows there’s a more efficient way to consume it than eating brains. However, considering that Dagmar eating trog brains showed up as a vision during one of Bean’s dreams or drug trips (I don’t remember), it’s obviously payoff to something.

[@RarelyReplies]

Dude, you nailed it. I just didn’t enjoy it as much and was frustrated with quite a bit of it. New sub here. You had me at “Rad”.

[@LoMayn3184]

Omg this part 4 was actually hilarious. I really enjoyed it. Never really been much for the story arcs anyway. Futuramas characters I am so emotionally attached to. They are the best group of characters in television and no one will ever compare. My opinion.

[@HereLiesKatsReputation]

It seems like the biggest complaint people have is that they want more. I think it’s really easy to feel like you’re left hanging but like once we have all the seasons the show is going to be amazing to binge and watch all the way through! I mean, I’m kinda happy that my only complaint is I’m always left wanting more, it ensures I will come back. They seem to know what they are doing with the characters and I think they are doing a good job slowly building them yet still keeping the mystery. Futurama is an amazing series. I’m extremely satisfied with the way it ended and I think I will feel the same way about Disenchantment. I think by the end we will have all the answers and more but they’re not just going to give everything up right when you want it. Just my thoughts.

[@matarikinuku4315]

Love your view! Always articulated reasonings that even if I don't agree with I can understand your viewpoint.

[@furonguy42]

The Sacred Goo and its capabilities have been perhaps the most interesting plot thread for me ever since we were introduced to it in season 2, where its implied that Derek unwittingly feeding it to Slimy is what turned it from a tiny little rock creature into the giant kraken-y thing, so clearly it can have affects on non-saviors other than just turning them into Trogs. It does make me think of how the leader of the Trogs tried to tell Leavo before he drank it that "it gives you what you deserve". Perhaps the goo, or whatever magic lies within it felt Luci deserved wings, Leavo deserved to highlight the similarity between Elves and Trogs and Slimy somehow deserved to become a Kraken. There's also the matter of Leavo having dedicated his life to tracking down the Sacred Goo, albeit under the name "The Very Thing", and that being turned into a Trog was a letdown. Where did he find out about it and what did he think it would do? I doubt all of these questions will be answered in what remains of the story, but there's so much to unpack with something that hasn't actually had any real prominence until this season.

[@impactabie]

I was literally on the channel looking for this

[@Set_Weaver]

I have a question. Who kidnapped Luci at the end of the season 1 (episode 10)? At the beginning of the second season we learn, that he's in the bottle inside Dagmar's closet. But it wasn't Dagmar who kidnapped him. She was with Bean at the top of the castle. And Luci said: *gasp "You?!". So he obviously knew the captivator. Could it be that it was Freckles?

[@kyleyuen245]

I love the shows continuous story telling and can't wait for season 5, whenever that happens

[@thisbeme4505]

Watching how many pieces get solved in part five really shows me that this entire series was thought out from the beginning

[@v8Buster87]

this show stole my interest . Started it before bed one time, didnt get into it. then i watched it again and fell in love .

[@jfarrar19]

11:30 Johnny. Johnny. Remember the episode with Mora, Bean, and Elfo on the boat? The famous battle, where a famous mermaid was killed. The Battle of Falling water? These corpses are found right by the waterfall in Dreamland. I wonder. We have a seat of Elves under castles. We have a seat of Humans over it, and we see a part of the castle showing a Mermaid. Dreamland used to be ruled by an alliance between the three, and the castle was made of those. The Elves, the Humans, and the Mermaids. At some point, the Humans overthrew the Mermaids and the Elves, driving them out.

[@scwh3181]

One thing that annoys me about the show is how it seems to forget and lose interest in its own plotlines. It always comes back to them eventually, but characters go from being deeply concerned about things mysteries, completely forgetting them and then being concerned again at the drop of a hat. It's mostly with earlier seasons, but you see a bit this season, too. For instance, Cloyd and Becky turn into dolls and send the characters plummeting into the ocean. They have a wacky underground adventure, and come home... yet are seemingly unconcerned with the fact that those two both tried to kill them and are clearly still in the castle, and seem actually surprised when they turn up again for some reason. I think it's more of a writing issue than a character one. It's like the writers are juggling too many details at once, and hasn't thought them through quite well enough, and as a result, stuff just kind of happens sometimes. It's still a decent enough show, but whenever I watch it, I can't help feeling like it should be a bit better.

[@pdpUU]

The whole show feels laid on thick at times, and I love it.