Disgaea 5 Carnage Baal Defeated in One Turn

Defeating Carnage Baal Celestial Hell in 1 Turn
1. Get Geared
Make 3 characters, 1 with max stats, 1 with at least 50 million stats, 1 with at least 25 million stats. I recommend a sage and Killia be in the mix
To do this max out a Carnage Trapezohedron and clone it.
To Max a Trapezohedron, turn on Boss Forever in the Cheat Shop, enter and use Diver 10 (you clone in the alchemy shop) to the boss floor. Kill all enemies on the boss floor on the highest difficulty you can, preferably level 20 in cheat shop. (Making curry with 3 elixir and filling it with carnage gear and 100 fists gives you 100% critical and a lot of HP that helps with this process.) Set the item to mystery room route, kill any level sphere and mystery room you can, and lift any level fish as you dive down 10 floors and kill item bosses. Defeat 42 item gods to gain all unique innocents. Continue until you no longer receive item training bonus. Then use a sage land decimator to kill all enemies until the kill bonus is set to 400. This should give your gear over 400,000,000 HP and 2,000,000 in each stat. Clone this item by entering with mystery room equipped and run through the floors killing only what you need to. Turn off Boss forever in the cheat shop and only kill the bosses on boss floors you hit. Do not use dive 10s and 20s on floor 1s. Find the mystery room that requires jumping. Jump to the top using triple jump obtained by maxing the Life Support Unit Squad. Talk to the Item God at the top and have a chance to clone the item you are in. The higher the floor, the more likely this is to succeed. Repeat this process until the 8 characters are geared.
Use assembly points to max out jump, move, and stats as well as increase the item level limit every 500 floors.
Repeat this process with a rank 40 weapon for the
Make 8 characters, including the top 3, with at least 1.6 billion HP. Max Traps will get most to around 1.4 billion. Use the Chara world to raise HP aptitude or use the character to raise defense weapon mastery.
Gear can be seen here • Gear for beating Baal ...
2. Get Evilities
The 2 strong Characters need the following evilities
• Unique Evities: Greedy Disposition (Nether Noble) Assault Attack (Valkyrie) Rage Charge (Bear)
• Common Evilities: Violence (Void Dark) Impact Charge (Sludge) To the Death (Lady Samurai) Fighting Spirit (Dark Knight)
The others need
• Unique Evilities: Evil Eye (Chrimera) Support Attack (Archer) Angel Song (Celestial Hope)
• Common Evilities: Regeneration (Zombie)
• 1 Person needs (preferably Seraphina) Liscensed Caretaker (Maid) Angel Leadership (Celestial Hope)
3. Squads
Put the Main as the leader of the Foot Soldier squad. Give it 20 members.
Put the Second as the leader of the Dark Assembly Squad and give it 20 members
Put the third as the leader of the Relief Party and give it 20 members
Capture level 9999 LoC people from the item world as you go or in Double Illusion land of carnage using the unique innocent hostage negotiator. Use your main to threaten the enemies as leader of the Interrogation Squad. Strengthen the Foot Soldier Squad, the Dark assembly Squad, and Relief Party squad until they all have at least 1500 to 2000 members. (I think it caps at 1500). Place main back as leader of Foot Soldier Squad before beginning the boss.
4. Netherworld Edit: Edit the netherworld exterior with bonus costs
5. Overload: Give 1 character with a throw of 7 Logan’s Overload and give the rest Indomitable Spread to heal. Christo needs his original overload.
6. Assembly Bills: pass Charge Bonus Gauge, Critical Situation, All-Out Attack

[@ThatHippyDuck]

Let's take a moment to appreciate this underrated track. Disgaea had some great music.

[@thisissomeshit1]

It is really good. My video for Baal Disgaea 6 on the absolute hardest difficulty is live now too

[@bluetenit695]

*Sees the stats* "This is how you know when you have too much time on your hands."

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

With a bit of research, it's actually pretty easy to achieve, especially with the complete edition. A few hundred hours. 15h a week for three months, for a bit of perspective. Geoblast to master all classes and reincarnate, lvl to 9999 with elite four/raise the flag gets you 10m. This only takes a few hours once you've cleared the main story. Then, using Metallia, clear the asagi map and interrogate them for shards/elixir. That's another 10m in stats. The grind comes with the next 30m stats which require leveling items and doing chara world to get aptitudes. Duping items is a thing, not that difficult once you get the gist of it. The last 50m comes from evilities giving you +100% stats. Usually violence, heavy stance, greedy disposition are the evilities used.

[@thetotodile7261]

Other evilities that are used to reach 50 m stats?

[@courierz9451]

@@thetotodile7261 Evilities just raise you by a max percentage of 100, not by a fixed amount like any mil

[@nergal2931]

@@RandomPlaceHolderNameA few hundred hours. 15h a week for three months, for a bit of perspective. ??? That's what he meant by too much time on your hands.

[@RandomPlaceHolderName]

@@nergal2931 Meh, 15h a week is nothing. Most people have way more than that dedicated to the things they like doing.

[@limlisheng2006]

Mastering so much knowledge from disgaea. They should give you a degree for knowing so much

[@thisissomeshit1]

It was a hard program at Harvard. Just like solving the rubik's cube. Jk lol

[@limlisheng2006]

@@thisissomeshit1 i hope disgaea is going to make a 6th. been waiting for ages for the next release

[@thisissomeshit1]

@@limlisheng2006 They will, they just keep working on ports for the switch saddly. I wonder what mayhem will ensue.

[@bibi_aisu]

@@limlisheng2006 well they sure did make a 6th

[@jaytay4027]

@@limlisheng2006 they did

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

This game are terrific with number. I cant even count.

[@thisissomeshit1]

Theeraphat Sunthornwit, embrace ALL THE NUMBERS!! Lol

[@IMbANooB96]

ever heard of maplestory?

[@SpeedBump]

*is

[@isaiahdaniels5643]

Guess what. New one has 10 mil levels and trillions for stat caps.

[@jaytay4027]

@@IMbANooB96 i love you for this comment

[@riguerraluisfernandoh.6415]

This is so beautiful oh my lord

[@thisissomeshit1]

it is mostly 1 reincarnation after you max every job, get a LoC trap and max it's stats then duplicate it as you go with Stat boosters on it.

[@kurutoshimelody3653]

I want to beat Baal i'm afraid i'm too overwhelmed with the mechanics with Disgaea again. I postponed playing Disgaea for a year, and came back it wasn't a great experience.

[@Hambs23]

Regular Baal is very feasible with minimal grinding. You still need to master all classes by Geo Blasting Geo Symbols from high ranked Carnage items on 20 stars difficulty. Then get some bonus stats from evilities and Foot Soldier or Flatty Squad. If you have around 40m stats + some good damage evilities at that point you can probably 1 shot any of the 4 Baals, along with their 2 goons. Usalia + 4 Angel Hosts or + 3 A.H. + Christo can end the fight in 1 turn very easily with her Overload and a squad attack.. Carnage Baal is a whole 'nother story. I still can't figure out how to even survive the 4 initial blasts with minimal grind.

[@cristianmontoya3149]

Only true gods, max their godamn stats in this game, I just did it in Disgaea 1, but man, that Lahara can beat anything, absolutly, no matter anything, Baal was my bitch, Im working now in this new Disgaea 5

[@BMBCash]

thank you so much because this video i defeat this map really helpful i have 3 characters with max stats but always lose against him . this use Evilities Support Attacks with last hit Squad atk i never know about it before dmg become crazy

[@thisissomeshit1]

Yay congrats ^_^ I'm glad I could help. Yeah that attack can be beastly.

[@WinksontheWeekend]

It's 2020 and I'm currently working on leveling my trap and the grind for that is ridiculously long. My sage is currently at 75 million in stats. I played carnage baal on 1 star and he obliterated me lol

[@thisissomeshit1]

You might need to super curry yourself, (throwing a lot of items into a curry for hp,) just to enter into the arena. Takes some prepping to get everything ready. Don't forget to clone your carnage trap and raising your stats by all the alternative steps so you don't hit any of the bonus caps.

[@WinksontheWeekend]

@@thisissomeshit1 yeah I had the curry I think I just need to fully upgrade the trap. I've already found the duplicate room a few times along the way and cloned the trap but they weren't at their full potential yet. Might need to play with evilties too but damn Baal is a beast

[@thisissomeshit1]

@@WinksontheWeekend I listed the evilities in the video before the battle. You really need to max out almost everything to do that kind of damage unless you have multiple fighters

[@thisissomeshit1]

Some asked so: The main innocent I use are indoor fighter for 20% aptitude or Utilitarian for 5% sp per turn If you dont nee either of those Flyer is best for moving around opponents. Habitual licker is great for stealing their sp so they cant do attacks to you Spear fisherman recovers your hp when attacking And combo maker so you can attack 2x times for combos Combine the ones you need for each situation. Ambusher can be nice so the boss doesnt counter and kill your team

[@leinswaisbrick]

One thing I didnt understand about this video: how did the squad attacks reached all the crystals at once?

[@thisissomeshit1]

All the crystals and all the Baals share their own Hp pool. It's sorta like defeating 2 enemies really if you manage it.

[@Eddie2P]

squad attack hits all people in the same squad

[@chriskoloski32]

Lowkey, having that automatic lightning strike will always be 100% bullshit and unfair which is why I hate that cheesing these fights seems necessary just to win instead of just getting good levels and items

[@RiskOfBaer]

Firstly there is no cheese here. Unless you consider maxed out characters and in game mechanics to be considered cheesing... As I said, It's just a bunch of maxed out characters and items, and a well executed strategy. Secondly, this is not the only way to beat this fight. All you have to do is exactly what you said: "get good levels and items", and on top of that make some good characters and come in with a plan. Thirdly, remember that this is Carnage Baal. It's not just a post game story boss, or even just another carnage enemy. This is supposed to be the hardest, most ridiculous challenge that seems completely unbeatable and unfair when you first see it. It is supposed to force you to min max your whole team and utilize all the mechanics you know. Making it anything less than that would be pointless.

[@Water-ix4yr]

100 percent agree it's bs

[@potatochobit]

i have 10M in stats + another 10M in evilities, how in the wrold did you hit 9999999999 with gear lol

[@Mortenlejel]

that takes a lot of grinding, let me tell you. Firstly you need the elite four squad, sencondly you need to stat cap your characters with stat shards to 40 mill in every stat, thirdly you need to master every sub clas, fourthly you need 3 maxed out LoC trapozehedrons and a rank 40 weapon, and finally you need to reincarnate your characters every time you hit 9.999 lvl.. Im on my third sage i want to max out. Just keep grinding and grinding and you will get there sooner or later XD

[@Mortenlejel]

use chara world too to get 300 % in aptitudes

[@vDorgengoa]

Morten Lejel So.... have you made it to 99,999,999 yet? without eclipse power

[@thisissomeshit1]

You need to max out your shards from captured monsters for another big boost. Oh and sorry for the late reply

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

John Crosby that is just 1 year late crosby. He might have actually dead in real life 😂😂😂

[@cattigereyes1]

A maxed curry with three elixirs and 100 thimbles and many more elixirs and heal stuff helps also, max stats are elite four squad reincarnation and equipped raised flag. Also your equipment %s need to be 300. The item must have max 2 million in stats per stat traps, or weapons. You'll need to get to 40 million before the item percents, with 10 million in evils, 10 million in mastering,10 million in fragments, greedy disposition, violence and even squad foot solider helps!

[@thisissomeshit1]

I don't even use thimbles. While grinding I just collected elixers. You can use 100 c elixers no worries. There is also a evility that lets you recover 30% hp from attacks allowing a significant damage reduction and less hp needed. All they need to do is survive getting on the field and be moved.

[@archmage4ever]

Maxing all capped stats to 99 million is clear. However, items max out at 400 million HP i believe so even with a very very spicy curry, how on earth did you manage to get over 9 billion HP??

[@archmage4ever]

Is it done only by having 100% stat boost evilities and 300% aptitude?

[@thisissomeshit1]

archmage4ever it's curries. 3 carnage elixer curry with over 100 carnage elixer and healing items makes it ridiculous. I think 3 elixers and 100 thimbles doesn't give enough hp,

[@cosmickatamari]

how in the hell do you have 99999999999 stats? damn!

[@thisissomeshit1]

essentially you do 3 reincarnation , max ability points in the board game, max your carnage trapohedren and use the right evilities as I showed in the video

[@cosmickatamari]

so i actually went through the trouble of doing 10 reincarnations (because i read you want to get to 10 resurrections for a softcap) with elite four while subclass farming. with everyone having greedy disposition and violence, most of my characters are a little above 20 million with carnage gear.

[@thisissomeshit1]

your carnage gear needs to be high and max your aptitude

[@cosmickatamari]

thanks, ill start working on that!

[@assassinboss8031]

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[@reesemitchell263]

I can't even touch the floor. It feel like i am playing the floor is lava

[@thisissomeshit1]

It helps to make a curry with 100 to 200 items in it. It'll give them a ridiculous amount of health

[@reesemitchell263]

@@thisissomeshit1 Thank you for the tip I am going to go and try that!

[@killeing]

i really wish they'd give baal better boss music X/ the one they had in disgaea 1 psp remake was spectacular, this sounds like the cruddy background music you'd get for visiting a shop in zelda X/

[@thisissomeshit1]

They kinda switched all the music to cutsie anime music. Some of it is still cool, but the design choice for a lot of the music was disappointing in my opinion. I remember having to turn it out often in some of the more annoying level which really decreased from the fun and excitement of the game. Your thoughts?

[@killeing]

​@@thisissomeshit1 my thoughts is that they should use the disgaea 1 psp baal theme as baal's music. I didn't know it was going to be baals theme, and when i finally fought him in that game it was enough to give me goosebumps for the slaughter and awesomeness I was going to be a part of X) now I listen to this garbage and i can't tell if i'm playing a disgaea game anymore or a zelda knockoff X/

[@raikou7145]

Wait a minute you have a maxed sage. Can you defeat carnage liezelotte??

[@Lawliet31101979]

I really hate how big the numbers have gotten, they just don't mean anything anymore it's just a joke.

[@hiroyuki199901]

Would you mind telling me the unique innocents you used? :)

[@thisissomeshit1]

I usually use unique that recovers hp/mp in certain ways. Then ones that boost. In leveling, I often us the microphone one to capture more

[@cid3303]

Do i have to grind my gear in LoC (since it might give more boosts in the item, dk honestly) or can i do it in the normal world?

[@thisissomeshit1]

LoC gear gives like 1000x higher stats. It has to be LoC. High end normal gear will barely kill weaker prinnies in LoC

[@cid3303]

so if i got a trapezohedron in LoC do i have to boost it in LoC item world? Or can i just boost it in the normal item world? idk the LoC mechanics of this game yet but in the previous games once you enter the LoC, the item world enemies are also affected which means they are stronger but here n D5 it looks like it only affects the normal maps, DLC maps etc. Correct me if im wrong

[@thisissomeshit1]

You need to get your stats max to all 9s. I needed mine in the 300s or so to do it so yes.

[@koilamaoh4238]

ack I can't do this again on the PC release....

[@thisissomeshit1]

Lol its supposed to be fun :p

[@koilamaoh4238]

@@thisissomeshit1 I know it is lol. Love the pc release, my ps4 getting dusty.

[@thisissomeshit1]

They should apply any updates to all the games in theory sadly. It is nice that they can expand their audience. I'd love a mobile release. Emulators just dont do this series justice.

[@Thejigholeman]

It hurts It hurts It hurts It hurts It hurts It hurts It hurts

[@RR-ut1sy]

My question is was is it worth it?

[@thisissomeshit1]

Shard :P Here's the thing. I bought the game for $60 so I expect at least 60 hours of play. I played the game 3 times and have gotten about 600 hours or so in fun enjoyment. That's about $.10 an hour of entertainment. In the time it took me to play it, all other games I wanted got a significant price drop so I saved about $60 just waiting to play other games. To me that made the challenge of beating the final final boss worth it in every regard

[@goatasticducklastic3128]

@@thisissomeshit1 year late reply, but you are the goddamn rain man of disgaea 5. I want to be on your level

[@thisissomeshit1]

@@goatasticducklastic3128 Sometime when I take a break from FFXIV I'll need to do another play through. Disgaea is something I can come back to to unwind. I should do a grinding guide for the game really.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@thisissomeshit1 This comment is beautiful.

[@BunPrince]

Is this difficulty lvl 20 baal

[@christopherpacana9631]

I've never played this game before.. and I don't freaking understand what's happening! Ahahaha

[@MetronaJ]

Essential, even more anime fire emblem with world destroying demons and angels whose stats you can raise from regular fire emblem numbers to literally 9 billion

[@shadowplanner7146]

I’ve played the game for 147 hours and I still don’t know what’s happening.

[@fatsacktony1]

max stats maxing every possible damage bonus you can get in the game, those characters he kkeeps getting lasered and healing get 5% for atk and def every time they get hit, thats why he did that, then he has all the right gear, max stat characters, maxes the combo bonus with the support attacks, and then uses a squad attack to attack the baal squad and the baal bit squad twice.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@shadowplanner7146 😂😂😂

[@thisissomeshit1]

You max stats through gear leveling and evilities

[@hyunztarou7053]

i understand what u saying but i was around second part of carnage with my stats is impossible killia almost defeat goldion but still left the 2 wrestler what i need to do now? get more status?

[@thisissomeshit1]

Jose silva, you have to item level a lot before you get to carnage. Get a sage instead of killia for quicker item world climbing. Go into the highest item you can Get all emblems for gear Get the emblem to floor 99 and gency exit. Save and go in to steal the next tier emblem from the item god. Keep going until you have a trapohedren (spelling) level one until you get it to 100. While doing that make sure you have the club that let's you super jump. You occassionally will find a large tower that if you jump to the top you can get a duplicate of it. Generally you want 3 traps to level 135 and a 40 tier weapon. Leveled as well. That will give you the umph needed to start LoC. Also do the board game to get your aptitude maxed so you get 3x the stats from the emblems.

[@hyunztarou7053]

ok but to get these item trapohedren is not after end loc and start carnage? i have 3 exodus they say exodus is one of best items in game

[@hyunztarou7053]

well now i am op btw dont need this much item world cause i can end all loc the only part i cant is the martial training 5 carnage but i know i need increase stats from item world

[@thisissomeshit1]

Jose silva, what you do is you get the loc Arcadia first. You can get this in a mushroom soup by using the mushroom drop ability. Then you take that Arcadia and level it to 99. You cant skip more than 19 floors. Once you save at 99 you then go into the loc 99 Arcadia and steal the trap from the item god. While leveling the trap, you can get duplicates through the jump room or every item God in the trap will have one. Cloning is your best bet tho.

[@hyunztarou7053]

ty bro i will later i rmb when i say was impossible kill goldion but when i lvling all class to almost master and reincarnation my damage become huge xd

[@Murtida]

Its even funnier that you won while using evilities like braggart that have no actual use in this fight since it only applies on expedition and item world xD

[@thisissomeshit1]

Got to add to the challenge. Just shows how strong the set up is lol

[@BrBetim]

Incredible! Do any of the DLC characters make this better?

[@thisissomeshit1]

『B E T I M』 I'm told there are some that add an extra stat boost, but you don't need them to beat the game

[@rocketman8808]

What the hell did I just witness?

[@thisissomeshit1]

The death of a god :p and well his friends

[@fortex900]

can this be done with lady samurai?

[@thisissomeshit1]

Fortex , any class can, but you need to get the twin head ability from dragons and possibly use extra sages for multi attack. I used the armored knight one for example just because my brother made that character and she was readily available. :p with the skills, set up, stats, and squad attack it can be done with any humanoid. I haven't tried it with monsters but you're free to try.

[@Mahboi_K]

Fortex

[@TotalTech_]

How did you get your characters so powerful?

[@thisissomeshit1]

It's been a while, but, 6 reincarnations, max of all the item stat gains, a few carnage trap clones leveled pretty high, some curry, the right clubs, and a good bit of character boards

[@hanselbarlowe2575]

He just forget the fact he is part of a real world

[@jasonrodriguez2963]

This is... Scaring

[@itzsnorelax7746]

This is impressive but now do it with a Prinny (I've seen it done🤣)

[@PinoyRandomStories]

can u atleast show us the gears of your sage?

[@thisissomeshit1]

I'd have to make a new video of it and see. I'm not 100% sure I have the yydriss weapon anymore. When you best baal, you get his weapon which is a vast improvement. I'll look later if I can.

[@thisissomeshit1]

I uploaded the video. It is in the description so you can see my gear

[@SylarGKIW]

I have WTF on my face. Is that normal? XD

[@thisissomeshit1]

LarsJunFan Oleg Troitskii, lol it happens. I tried 3 times to figure it out. I was missing something stupid and kept having to go back and tweak it. Lol

[@cattigereyes1]

No idea!

[@98kazer]

*other games* Developers: "I think 9999 stats is already too much, let's stop there." . *Nippon Ichi* Developers: "what? "Too much"? what's that?"

[@thisissomeshit1]

I can't wait to play the new one. It goes even higher!!!!!

[@itzsnorelax7746]

New Max level is 99999999

[@bigboigod1658]

What the fuck...

[@user-kz6pc7mu2t]

i max 27 traps for 20 star baal, i lost :>

[@thisissomeshit1]

You have to make sure your stats are max 9s, your squad has millions of prisoner points, you stack a long combo, you stack the buffs, and you have the bonus from the curry

[@adityataufiq9301]

Need song name

[@nickel7o740]

Which Song?

[@ForestofCicadas]

I'm super late but would guess you are referring either to Great Wild(Baal's theme) or Scandal(the Overload theme)

[@SwordSaint83]

how do you max stats characters ????

[@thisissomeshit1]

first max aptitude second get the evilities listed in the video. violence comes from a scroll from void dark. third max every class and reincarnate once to be at 9999 with raised flag equipped in a maxed elite four club fourth get 3 carnage trapohedrins to roughly 600 or higher and 2 ydriggdris to about 1k. keep raising these to max stays fifth use stat shards from the carnage illusion max with megaphone equipped and force the prisoners into elixers. (twin head sage with fatal strike really helps) to max out the shard bonus. it's like 1 million per stat other than go. if you need to eek out more, level your weapons and put hard workers (i think) on then at 20k a piece in all slots except the unique