disney characters that ruined everything by leaving

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caitlin mckillop

caitlin mckillop

Күн бұрын

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@nataliehoward3447
@nataliehoward3447 2 жыл бұрын
All the ross kids leaving Bunkd made me so uncomfortable like why is the show still running 💀💀💀💀
@kristiahaughton
@kristiahaughton 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s not even just the Ross kids it’s all the main/side characters on the show they just disappeared one by one
@avaleelong
@avaleelong 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed as soon as all the Ross kids and Tessa Netting's characters left the show I just kinda stopped watching
@its7am
@its7am 2 жыл бұрын
Like isn't Bunk'd supposed to be a Jessie spinoff?
@MoonstruckCyan
@MoonstruckCyan 2 жыл бұрын
Like legit as soon as I heard they were gone, and most of the reoccuring characters were also not returning - i literally said to myself "what is the point" Is a JESSIE spin off. Why make the characters from Jessie leave?! That totally killed the show lmao
@daltonfarris
@daltonfarris Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching after a couple of episodes, losing jessie Bertram and Luke made the show basically just a corpse of jessie with everyone that made jessie work gone. Now yall are telling me Emma, Zuri, and Ravi left too? Omg I'd rather watch people fill a trash can. That's crazy they allowed that to happen and didn't cancel it
@vadrelle3494
@vadrelle3494 2 жыл бұрын
My headcanon for Sonny with a Chance is that something happened that made her and her mom go back to Wisconsin. Some family emergency or something, and Chad joined up with So Random to help fill the void (and attempt some self-improvement) because he still cared for Sonny and wanted to help keep her show alive until she came back. Which in turn helped prove to Sonny that Chad could care more about others than his own fame. And when she came back they got back together, got married, and moved to Calabasas to live on a ranch/music studio.
@loveablesimmer
@loveablesimmer 2 жыл бұрын
This is now the only way I can accept So Random as cannon in my brain. Love it!
@zoi3713
@zoi3713 2 жыл бұрын
I had a similar headcanon growing up! I love this 😊
@mittyceo
@mittyceo 2 жыл бұрын
PERFECT
@katherinedougherty2075
@katherinedougherty2075 2 жыл бұрын
Raise my phone for
@chiara4243
@chiara4243 2 жыл бұрын
That was beautiful bestie, thank you 😪
@beautyelisa688
@beautyelisa688 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, so no one is going to talk about Gunther from shake it up? I was waiting for caitlin to mention him. Shake it up wasn't the same without him since he was a part of the Hessenheffer twins. All of Tinka's antics and interesting clothing choices completely fell short without a partner to back it up.
@PeacheIIe
@PeacheIIe 2 жыл бұрын
People actually like that show?
@beautyelisa688
@beautyelisa688 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeacheIIe I did when I was a kid I guess.
@SailorPsyche
@SailorPsyche 2 жыл бұрын
@@beautyelisa688 YES IM SO UPSET ABOUT THAT, HE WAS MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER IN THE ENTIRE FREAKIN SHOW AND HIS LEAVE WAS JUST VERY LIGHTLY MENTIONED THEN BRUSHED OFF (it also bthered me cause grade 1-3 me had a massive crush on him)
@TDArulesclub4
@TDArulesclub4 2 жыл бұрын
YES! That's why I clicked on this video lol I was so sad when he left, he was my favorite. (And lowkey shipped him and CeCe). With Tinka just on her own, it felt a little empty.
@kiwikarp9509
@kiwikarp9509 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeacheIIeThere's over 8 billion people on earth, odds are one of them will like it(I'm one of them btw, I like the show).
@mikaelanarr9400
@mikaelanarr9400 2 жыл бұрын
Brady leaving Pair of Kings wasn't just weird, it was plain wrong. Brady leaving throws off the whole storyline. Brady and Boomer are the Kings of Legend. They are supposed to lead the island of Kinkow into a new era of greatness. The lady of the cave confirms it. She paints Brady and Boomer holding a scepter and the whole setting is golden. It makes no sense that they would continue with the 3rd season, take away any importance Brady had, and insert Boz, who was annoying on so many levels, as a replacement saying "Oh, you guys thought you were just twins well actually you guys are triplets," that feels like something a soap-opera would do. Brady may have had a few scenes where he wasn't the most likable, but Boz was just so annoying and out there. Clearly, the writers had no idea what they were doing. The season throws off everything from the first two seasons. The show should have been canceled. Bringing in Boz was the worst idea Disney ever had!
@keirafitzgerald6391
@keirafitzgerald6391 2 жыл бұрын
Well it wasn't their original plan thry felt they had to fire the actor because he was arrested for drunk driving and at the time I believe drinking underage Edit: I'm like just starting the video so idk she addresses that or not
@hikariuchiha977
@hikariuchiha977 2 жыл бұрын
Yes long the show just wasn't the same! I didn't even watch much of season 3 because of this reason
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I thought that whole "triplets" reveal was so dumb!
@taylortonkin3213
@taylortonkin3213 2 жыл бұрын
@@lateramae Fr real , and nothing against Adam Hicks or anything but that whole plot line was just so dumb and unrealistic that it completely ruined the show for me . Now I can see her point where she said it wouldn’t have been fair to the rest of the cast of the show just to have been canceled because of what happened which I can see but however in that case I feel the 3rd season would have been much better off if Boomer would have just ruled alone and yes I get the show was called “Pair of kings.” So having just one of them for the last season would have felt off , which is definitely the reason why Adam Hicks joined the show and the reason for the whole triplet plot twist in the first place but I still feel having Boomer rule alone in season 3 would have been a much better plot line in my opinion.
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
@@taylortonkin3213 I see Caitlin's point as well, but I think the show would've been better off ending with season two when Brady was still there. The chemistry wasn't the same with Boomer and Boz (Adam Hick's character). But I'm not totally against the idea of Boomer ruling on his own as king. Maybe even have him and Lanny become friends. It's been a while since I've seen 'Pair of Kings,' so forgive me if I my memory of the show is off.
@marleysantiago934
@marleysantiago934 2 жыл бұрын
A show I think of when talking about characters that left was Bunk'd. Most people bring up how the Ross kids left since they were the main characters as it was Jessie spin off, but they at least got a send off. The part I think of is how nearly every other character from the show just... disappeared after Season 2. Xander, Tiffany, Jorge, Hazel, Griff, Gladys, they just left. Only Gladys got called out since she used run the camp, but everyone else? Xander was Emma's boyfriend and she never brought him up. It was like they never existed, which kind of bummed me out.
@bellaknightR597
@bellaknightR597 2 жыл бұрын
Hazel came back for an episode
@aydinjohansson726
@aydinjohansson726 2 жыл бұрын
I know! And I liked the first 2 seasons a LOT more with the Ross kids, Xander, Jorge, Tiffany, Hazel Griff, and Lou
@RavenTheHalfDemon
@RavenTheHalfDemon 2 жыл бұрын
I only like the first 2 seasons of Bunk`d. It bored me after Xander and them left.
@bellaknightR597
@bellaknightR597 2 жыл бұрын
@@RavenTheHalfDemon same, it was less funny without Hazel, I love Tessa Netting, her leaving ruined it for me
@aydinjohansson726
@aydinjohansson726 2 жыл бұрын
@@RavenTheHalfDemon I watched some of the later seasons, but they just don't have as good a storyline or anything
@sameennaeem27
@sameennaeem27 2 жыл бұрын
One exit that I that absolutely loved was Rachel from Stuck In The Middle. It was so realistically written, having her go off to college, and the siblings dealing with the change in the family dynamic. Plus, it hit very close to home for me, because my older sis left for college around the same time. And Rachel was gone but not forgotten; mentioned a number of times and brought back for the finale.
@abbihig
@abbihig Жыл бұрын
Now that you mention I didn't even think her leaving was weird when I first watched it, her write off was really natural.
@incrediblekeenan1751
@incrediblekeenan1751 9 ай бұрын
It almost feels like she flew right into the set of On my block
@dancingsun2
@dancingsun2 2 жыл бұрын
I have complicated feelings about how they took Carlos out in the Wedding special. If the Boyce family wanted them to address Cameron's absence that way then I respect it. If not, it hurt a lot to see the writers just take Carlos away when he could've still been alive in the universe and is just off somewhere. But at the same time I'd feel weird about them writing some random excuse for Carlos to not be around bcuz he wouldn't miss his best friend's wedding for anything in the world ya know? So maybe they could've animated him to be around in some scenes but just not say anything? Idk i just choose not to think about it much
@gamingmoviepro9270
@gamingmoviepro9270 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they should have just had Carlos there, it’s stupid they didn’t.
@clawdmoviemonster
@clawdmoviemonster 2 жыл бұрын
In the wedding movie, Carlos is supposed to be dead too, and Mal talk about him with a deep voice to let us know that yes his character died too and they miss him
@gamingmoviepro9270
@gamingmoviepro9270 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that makes sense I get that’s still sad and I’m bummed they killed of his character.
@thelanktheist2626
@thelanktheist2626 2 жыл бұрын
@@clawdmoviemonster Dang! That’s very dark. … how’d Carlos die? You know, I don’t wanna know, that’s just depressing.
@ThelittlekidNerd
@ThelittlekidNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Wait but how did we know Carlos died and just didn’t go
@kat-fk7on
@kat-fk7on 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that not having Justin in the wizards return special felt weird bc Justin is such an important key reason as to why Alex is the way she is and how she thrives , and I feel like their relationship as siblings is one of the biggest hearts of the show that makes it so special. And I get it the David Henry was busy or didn’t wanna be in it that’s fine but ugh I just hate when they have their one little line mentioning them in the beggining of something and it’s some lazy line like oh he’s busy at wiz tech like huh. I even thought that them throwing a party for him in the beggining just bc they think he’s eating it up as a professor was kinda like really, we still on this sameee narrative lmao like even her parents being mad at Alex for using magic for Simple things instead of doing it herself has been the same old issue they have with her since season one and it’s like ??? But I do love that at the end it ties back to Harper being the only one who has always accepted her bc they are also another big heart and soul of the show. Lmao I just got on a tangent about the special my bad but clearly u can tell this is my favorite show
@haileyparsons3844
@haileyparsons3844 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who didn’t like Justin as a character in season 4, like he was so entitled, so arrogant in season 4, that he was just unbearable to watch. I get he was pissed for not being in the wizards competition up until later in season 4. But Alex was in the same position and she didn’t act as bad as he did.
@njyawndra8609
@njyawndra8609 2 жыл бұрын
@@haileyparsons3844 No you're not a lot of people say they don't like Justin or that he had gotten worse.
@BlueBlazeKing
@BlueBlazeKing 2 жыл бұрын
I’m okay with it because it was just an hour special of the adventures after the series and Justin did become the professor so it made sense why he would be busy in the show.
@The1Dragonprincess
@The1Dragonprincess 2 жыл бұрын
@@haileyparsons3844 Same! I was so angry at the finale when he would let his friends be in danger during the competition and get mad at Alex for convincing him to actually save them!
@QTCutes
@QTCutes 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t consider Wizards return as canon anyways.
@the-inatorinator
@the-inatorinator Жыл бұрын
Kinda sad that he doesn't think his dad character was important. Besides Liv, he was basically the only character Maddie had genuine character moments with! (Diggie...does not count.) He was ALWAYS the one she came to for advice.
@deshawnedwards6412
@deshawnedwards6412 4 ай бұрын
Hey there Dr. Doofenshmirtz.
@Ravenwinds
@Ravenwinds 2 жыл бұрын
The Descendants wedding short felt so wrong. It really never should have been made. The movies meant so much to Cameron and they wouldn’t have been the same without him. For Disney to make the short and kill Carlos off in that universe just to pay tribute to him just feels distasteful to me. You don’t need to kill off a late actor’s character that they loved playing in order to pay tribute to the actor. Fiction doesn’t have to reflect reality.
@lifewithpose
@lifewithpose 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. just don’t make anything else!! there was no need for them to make more descendants stuff
@bluebay1031
@bluebay1031 2 жыл бұрын
Well from what I understand they didn’t make the short *just* to pay tribute to him, it was already in production when Cameron died. They likely didn’t want to scrap the work that was done, but the cast also made it clear they found it wrong to do anything else live action, so they compromised by finishing the storyline the short had (being the wedding) but animated. And while yes, they could’ve just said he was off somewhere that would’ve made no sense as Carlos wouldn’t have missed his best friends wedding. It was sad, but I think they handled it well
@Mattmurdockswife216
@Mattmurdockswife216 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly I pretend that it doesn’t exist cause it hurt me so much them k!ling him off In that short
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's left ambiguous enough in the short
@BabyGirlTiny
@BabyGirlTiny Жыл бұрын
@@bluebay1031nah, they didn’t have to kill him off. But I’m guessing they’re not making any more descendants stuff after this unless it’s a reboot so. Whatever
@msluvi6231
@msluvi6231 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I haven’t watched Ravens Home since the second season! I’m curious to see this direction, but I agree. Raven wouldn’t take one kid and leave the other!
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura 2 жыл бұрын
Nia went with her dad. Raven and Devon are divorced
@salanaya8718
@salanaya8718 2 жыл бұрын
@Jasmine N. It's in the show
@sriprathavasanthysenthil2017
@sriprathavasanthysenthil2017 2 жыл бұрын
same here !! i didn't even know it was renewed for a season 5 :0
@KnightDemonZZ
@KnightDemonZZ 2 жыл бұрын
Basically she took the special child that was like her and left the normal one.
@Myafussell
@Myafussell 2 жыл бұрын
@@Missmagazinebura they say it in the show
@kat-fk7on
@kat-fk7on 2 жыл бұрын
I also was kinda butthurt about Kim leaving bc I really loved her and jacks storyline like the way the would bicker and were friends but never addressed their feelings but then they did and just the whole tension they had was everything , and I would’ve loved to see more of them as a couple. And I agree that it stung even more bc they literally were the main ship of the show and in my opinion were the only good thing about the show they made it worth watching , bc the boys on their own after was just dry even tho leo Howard is fine af and nice to look at still but man without Kim u boring sir
@cwinn9375
@cwinn9375 2 жыл бұрын
When kim left I was so hurt she was the only girl and I loved that the showed included a girl that was girly and tough
@LaurenLaass
@LaurenLaass 2 жыл бұрын
Their arc was SO well fleshed out. I remember watching it for the first time and the tension made the show really fun to watch. Season 4 was weaker with Kim gone.
@cwinn9375
@cwinn9375 2 жыл бұрын
@@LaurenLaass yea so true kim and jack were such couple goals
@27kakashi89
@27kakashi89 2 жыл бұрын
What about Eddie as I recall he got no send off
@roseee9564
@roseee9564 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. They were the main reason for a lot of people to watch the show for sure. The reason being both for each character individually and as a couple together. But I must say looking back now their entire relationship in S3 was sadly done quite poorly. Which is a shame cause the buildup was incredible. Like yes they had cute and couply scenes in S3, but it was always the plot of an entire episode (like when Jack met Kim’s dad). There was barely any couply interaction in other scenes, e.g. them referring to each other as boyfriend/girlfriend etc. It was like they were still friends most of the times and not a romantic couple. It just always bothered me a little cause like I said the build up was great and then you finally get there and it’s barely anything P.S.: not including the final scenes of S3 & 4, cause those were literally amazing and show how much potential there was
@zoi3713
@zoi3713 2 жыл бұрын
I saw someone else mention it and now I'm thinking about it too. Technically Lab Rats:Elite Force is a spinoff, so it kind of makes sense everyone couldn't come to be on it. The excuse that 2 people needed to watch the island and the others needed to help with a secret project of Davenports did actually made sense. However, these 4 are siblings and were basically always together for 4 seasons, so splitting up so easily felt weird. Also as a black woman it was so nice to see a character that looks like me as the main character and have the representation. Leo was my favorite just to be left behind for the spinoff. Bree and Chase were always the more serious of the 4, so I really missed Leo and Adam's sillier personalities to lighten the mood. Besides that I would've been fine even if they brought them in for cameos, but they were just never seen again (or really even talked about if I remember correctly?) Even when Tasha had her baby, you can't tell me Adam and Leo (especially Leo) wouldn't have come along protecting their baby sister? Idk, I know this is a long rant and I do apologize if you read this all. I just missed Leo and Adam and even though this show was short lived, I wish we could have seen them just one more time if not as regulars.
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with everything you said here. Chase was my favorite character in the earlier seasons of Lab Rats. But I really really came to love Leo and see Adam's value as a character. I realized the show would not be the same without them. So when I learned of Elite force and they weren't there, it irked me. Like...it didn't even really have good vibes. Especially when their little sister got stolen. Plus, with being a black enby and all, Leo was really important to me. Even if he wasn't my favorite character at first, I really really liked him. I just attached to the nerds a lot as a kid.
@Error_-ct2vp
@Error_-ct2vp 2 жыл бұрын
Okay bro chill out Leo is not your brother
@Ithinkyouthinktoomuchofme
@Ithinkyouthinktoomuchofme 2 жыл бұрын
I know I’m late, but Marcus leaving Suite Life on Deck always sat wrong w me because they explained it on a throw away and then from what I remember never talked about him again. He was one of my favorite characters on the show
@redranger2716
@redranger2716 2 жыл бұрын
They did give him a go-away party, but it still sucked.
@erikaavw
@erikaavw 2 жыл бұрын
I really hate that Pops ruined Andi Mack forever because that show is so important to not only Disney Channel history but children's programming in general. They included so many amazing characters who introduced so many topics like LGBTQ, anxiety, teen pregnancy, military families, racism, Chinese culture practiced in Chinese-American families, and just so much more. This show means so much to me and I am lucky enough to have been able to buy the whole show. But the fact that there are other people who will never get to know about it or enjoy it or be moved by it just makes me so upset. I really like your idea about them cutting his scenes out. I also am just mad because there are a lot of other things on Disney + that Disney no longer agrees with but still has it on their streaming service. I wish they could have a message or something before every episode he is in saying they do no condone what he did and then have the full episode... I just hate that a show that was so progressive has its legacy ruined because of him.
@simplyme4516
@simplyme4516 2 жыл бұрын
wait but what happens with him ? what did he do ?
@faiebul
@faiebul 2 жыл бұрын
@@simplyme4516 the actor tried to meet up with a 13 year old boy at a hotel but the boy was actually an undercover cop…. so yeah the actor is really gross
@jasoncaetano9708
@jasoncaetano9708 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why they didn't kill the character off screen. Think about it, it would have been another great topic for the show to tackle and they could get rid of the pshco, the whole he went to India thing always seemed weird
@CosmicSteph
@CosmicSteph 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching the finale and not being able to enjoy it bc I had heard the news beforehand. Also the finale itself felt rushed to me so that sucked too. 😣
@thelanktheist2626
@thelanktheist2626 2 жыл бұрын
@@CosmicSteph I liked the finale, but yeah, garbage human Stoney was, ruined the entire Disney Plus experience.
@kamiq71
@kamiq71 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you about Carlos! It's the main reason I haven't watched the wedding special even though I love Descendants I just really wish they had kept Carlos alive in the universe.
@grace.duchess
@grace.duchess 2 жыл бұрын
The wedding special really didn’t do much for me at least except make me cry because cameron boyce passed, you aren’t missing too much
2 жыл бұрын
I watched the premiere but knowing about what they did just made me... Be not able to enjoy it
@gamingmoviepro9270
@gamingmoviepro9270 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@madnessarcade7447
@madnessarcade7447 2 жыл бұрын
It was wholesome u should
@Lina-np8mp
@Lina-np8mp 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that In kickin it Kim’s absence was handled really well and the goodbye scene and everything but what really frustrated me about the show was that they never addressed the disappearance of the character Eddie it’s like he was never mentioned again and there was no explanation what so ever he was kind of one of the main characters and to see no goodbye seen or nothing really frustrates me and gets upset
@queenofcats9240
@queenofcats9240 Жыл бұрын
Omg I was hoping she’d mention Eddie too. Especially after all throughout the first 2 seasons, they talk about always being by each other’s sides and never letting each other down, only for the first scene in season 3 to be a zoomed in picture of all the main characters except for Eddie. It’s not like he did anything bad. He just moved to England to take care of his grandparents. They could’ve easily have said that in show, but it was as if he never existed
@theravenofblack3872
@theravenofblack3872 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about Carlos is that people would’ve rioted had they replaced him. So the ultimate decision to just put his character to rest was the best one. It’s unfortunate but a lot of the times it’s best to say goodbye to the character.
@Th3SideProject
@Th3SideProject 2 жыл бұрын
The only DC absence I wish you included was Gunther from Shake It Up! I felt irritated with the explanation in the first episode of season 3 where Tinka said he moved back to the old country. It seemed odd to me he would return to his home country without his twin sister. It felt like there was a void without his character and bummed me out further when he wasn't in the finale. Your video was lovely as usual, Caitlin. I'm a long-time fan and love coming to check back on your channel and see what you're making. I strongly agreed with what you said for the characters I knew especially when it came to what happened with Andi Mack which is one of my favorite DC series of all time. ^-^
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I had the same thought. I mean I was never *too* invested in them but it was very out of place. Gunther loved his sister. he would never leave her behind.
@elizajurkane3767
@elizajurkane3767 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@Kerendiker222
@Kerendiker222 2 жыл бұрын
It also makes no sense after Made In Japan when tinka was about to be deported back to the old country but both twins begged to stay together and they went back to chicago to then have gunther suddenly go back to the old country without tinka
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the 'Wizards Return: Alex vs. Alex' special was a mistake because the series finale, in my opinion, was the perfect closure for the show. Alex became the family wizard, Justin became the head of WizTech, and Max got the sub shop. Juliet came back for the series finale too, which was great. Besides Justin not being there, my biggest complaint with the 'Wizards Return' special was that they ruined Alex's character. Throughout season 4, Alex stepped up as a wizard and proved that she can be responsible with her powers, and doesn't only care about herself. She defeated the Angels of Darkness, she destroyed an asteroid that was heading for earth (with the help of her brothers), and during the Wizard Family Competition when Justin got his foot caught in a branch, Alex helped him get unstuck. She was almost at the finish line, but she chose to go back and help Justin. All that character development was destroyed in the 'Wizards Return' special and Alex was back to being the selfish individual who used her powers irresponsibly. Plus, did we really need more of jealous Mason? As for Demi's departure from 'Sonny with a Chance,' I was very confused. I wasn't on social media and had no idea what was going on back in 2011, so when I first saw the trailer for 'So Random!', I was like, "where's Sonny?" I had no idea about Demi Lovato's mental health problems. Plus, adding Chad Dylan Cooper (Sterling Knight) to the cast of 'So Random!' was just bizarre because of the feud between 'So Random!' and 'Mackenzie Falls.' Even with Chad being nicer to the gang because of his relationship with Sonny, it didn't make sense for Chad to leave 'Mackenzie Falls.' That show was his baby; for goodness sakes, he even ordered a recount so that 'Mackenzie Falls' would win the Tween Choice Award for "Best Tween Show" instead of 'So Random!" Chad wouldn't have done that, just to leave the show less than a year later. I know Chad hosted that Christmas Special for 'So Random!', but with his personality, it didn't feel right to have Chad become a cast member for 'So Random!' By the way, I shipped Tess and Booker from 'Raven's Home' as well, so I'm sad that we'll never get to see their relationship develop.
@lexsunsh1ne
@lexsunsh1ne 2 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, in the beginning of 'So Random!' doesn't Chad tell the audience to still watch him on Mackenzie Falls? Like I thought it was implied he did both shows
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexsunsh1ne Oh you're right! There's an interview clip where Sterling says that Chad is doing both shows. I didn't know that. I thought he quit 'Mackenzie Falls' all together to join 'So Random!' kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXaUnmR_iLlmnLM
@lexsunsh1ne
@lexsunsh1ne 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I recently watched both shows so I was so confused when you said that lol
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexsunsh1ne Oh I'm sorry! I haven't seen 'Sonny with a Chance' and 'So Random!' in a really long time lol.
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I liked Wizards Return (but I missed the last season when I watched it). So when I rewatched the last season recently it definitely is annoying now. It’s like Wizards Return was another regular episode? Alex is careless and pays the price? Could have been a season finale on the actual show
@ms.marvelous8156
@ms.marvelous8156 2 жыл бұрын
Demi leaving “As the Bell rings” (it was this high school short series disney played during commercial breaks) kind of affected me weirdly enough. Like I know Demi leaving was a good thing because they did “Sonny with a Chance” and “Camp Rock” but I kind of liked Demi’s chemistry with the male lead. Then when they left, the show brought in a new love interest who was like a childhood friend for the male lead and the show just didn’t feel the same without Demi.
@fusetunes
@fusetunes 2 жыл бұрын
i completely forgot about that show… i always remembered seeing an interstitial like saved by the bell but it was so vague to me that i never looked it up. good to know!
@ms.marvelous8156
@ms.marvelous8156 2 жыл бұрын
@@fusetunes it was a good use of a few commercial minutes between the longer shows. Though I only remember Demi and the male lead having some cute moments and this blonde character singing the alphabet backwards for a talent show act.
@loveablesimmer
@loveablesimmer 2 жыл бұрын
So true!
@AJ-xc4qe
@AJ-xc4qe 2 жыл бұрын
And then the male lead and his costar from a one season wonder called Gigantic became a one hit wonder group called MKTO!
@kimberleywilliams7802
@kimberleywilliams7802 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped watching after they left, no cap. Didn't feel right, I was mostly there for them anyway, I loved them in that show, they were my fav.
@LeticiaF_3.14
@LeticiaF_3.14 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still annoyed at how, when Madison Hu left her role in Best Friends Whenever (presumably to star in Bizaardvark), the show just pretended that her character Marci had never existed. I had a few qualms with the show in general, but I thought Barry and Marci were a well-matched pair, and I liked Marci, not just for the Asian representation, but because I thought she was an interesting and funny character on top of that-quirky and a bit spacey, but smart and friendly too. They did a whole dramatic thing where Marci and Barry promised each other that they wouldn't forget their feelings for each other even if the timeline changed, and then just completely wrote her out in the next season without a word and put Barry together with Daisy instead. Marci deserved better than that.
@beautyelisa688
@beautyelisa688 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I mean the show is called Best friends whenever. Their friendship was supposedly the most important thing. This was the lesson right? no matter what, you can always rely on your best friend, they will always be there for you. But no, screw best friends I guess. They should have just canceled it.
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god wait. Okay wait I think that's probably why I stopped watching that show tbh. I could never remember why i stopped watching it but I knEW i WAS SUPER ANGRY AND iT WAS MOST LIKELY BECAUSE OF THAT. nOW A DAYS i BARELy remember the show's existence but I remember liking Marci a lot. Sorry accidentally turned caps lock on and didn't notice. I was gonna re-write everything I put in caps but it was so much that I'd probably forget what was even said.
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 2 жыл бұрын
I mean that’s probably the only departure I didn’t care for. I’m sick of seeing Asians portrayed as the same quirky, spacey, robotic nerd. (Or just needs in general being portrayed as such with no personality). I think Daisy was what Barry needed. Someone who showed him there’s more to life than logics and equations and made him change
@RyguyTheGreat22
@RyguyTheGreat22 2 жыл бұрын
@@beautyelisa688 You also have to think about the actress’s acting schedule and the directors at least tried to replace her character with a new character
@RyguyTheGreat22
@RyguyTheGreat22 2 жыл бұрын
@@beautyelisa688 But I also thought the same thing too that they should have just canceled it but that was back then and now I’m older and I understand because things happen for a reason
@debi04pl
@debi04pl Жыл бұрын
no bc I got so mad when Kim left, and so did Eddie after season 2 and we didn't get a proper explanation whatsoever. Like Kickin It was the show with the best created and well established characters and they had such a great chemistry, you really felt like they were very close friends. and for Kim to go to the Otai (?) Academy, the same one that Jack was supposed to go in like s2 or s3, was so upsetting
@asiaparnell717
@asiaparnell717 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly the one that pissed me off the most was bunked. Like how are you going to continue the show without the main characters in it??? I mean yes Lou was in it but it just doesn't feel the same same so honestly I think they should have just ended the show completely 😕
@sleepytoons2155
@sleepytoons2155 2 жыл бұрын
It also doesn’t help that they seem to love adding new random characters. It doesn’t even feel like the same show at this point. It feels like some kind of spinoff or reboot featuring one of the original characters. Lou also doesn’t even seem like she’s written the same way and she’s always super glammed up now and it just feels weird
@tommyhetrick
@tommyhetrick 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleepytoons2155 and for some reason this is the show they choose to break their usual season limit. The one that is basically a spinoff of a spinoff and has very poor average viewer counts
@sleepytoons2155
@sleepytoons2155 2 жыл бұрын
@@incrediblekeenan1751 oh god why can’t they let this show die 😭
@thelanktheist2626
@thelanktheist2626 2 жыл бұрын
What’s worse is that they don’t even mention the characters once they leave. Xander was DATING Emma by the time he vanished. Even if they had the messiest break up of a all time, wouldn’t you still bring up your sour, gross ex every once in a while?
@gabthang8
@gabthang8 2 жыл бұрын
@@sleepytoons2155 I think in a way it is kind of a reboot and a way to get around the 4 season rule of Disney (where a show can’t go past 4 seasons). They changed it so much to the point that it feels like a different show. But I think a better way of getting around that rule would be to just make it and brand it as a complete spin-off like they did with Suite Life in order for it to get a longer run time.
@captaincharlie_
@captaincharlie_ 2 жыл бұрын
I respectfully disagree with the Carlos thing. I think there are 4 different choices they could've mad and based on those 4 paths, I think they picked the best one. I'ma say imo what they are and why: _1 = get a different voice actor_ _2 = mention him being somewhere else and why_ _3 = not mention him at all to avoid it_ _4 = him passing like the actor._ With #1, Nobody could've played him like Cameron, and Imo if they got a different actor it'd just feel like pretending his passing never happened, so I'm glad they didn't do that. #2 If they said "oh he's with his mom" or something like that, it'd feel like abandoning the characters integrity. One key part of his personality is him being a good friend (like in the 2nd movie and him sitting everyone down to talk about Mal leaving). Plus him not showing up at her wedding despite having the chance to just wouldn't feel right to me. #3 Not mentioning the character entirely to avoid coming up with a reason for his absence would feel downright disrespectful to me and I'm really glad they didn't do that. #4 is the only one that wasn't a lie. It was honest, and I'm glad. I love the idea of Cameron forever being the only one to bring that character to life. And that was the only acceptable reason for him not being at the wedding, because if he was alive he wouldn't have missed it for anything in the world. And not mentioning him at all would be completely unacceptable, period. So with all that being said, how they did it just... Really felt right to me. It was a lovely tribute in my eyes. *_No disrespect intended with this comment, this was all just my opinion and I respect all other perspectives on this, I just wanted to share mine too._*
@maplepainttube8158
@maplepainttube8158 2 жыл бұрын
You could have the best of both worlds, accept option number 4 for the reasons you named, but since it's a Disney universe and death isn't always permeant (heck the premise of the series relies on some of their parents being ressurected after the plot of the fairy tales they are from has them die) so you can imagine that sometime after the wedding the 3 of them go on an epic quest which brings him back. So then it can be true to life what happened during the short rather than a limp excuse for missing the wedding, but then headcannon all 4 a happily ever after.
@samkathryn4825
@samkathryn4825 2 жыл бұрын
5:19 Head canon (I don’t know if it works because I haven’t watched this show in over a decade)-This is a prequel. Before Chad was on Mackenzie Falls, he was a member of that show, and his branching off to get his own show is what started the feud and why the casts of both shows hate each other, and they all just refuse to talk about it because Chad likes to forget that part of his history and the others are mad at him.
@edenb731
@edenb731 2 жыл бұрын
ok wait thats actually genius!!!
@samkathryn4825
@samkathryn4825 2 жыл бұрын
@Eden Bushuev Thanks!
@randomaccount3574
@randomaccount3574 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds legit but the ones abt chad taking sonnys place on the show make sense too ngl
@alexiscando2068
@alexiscando2068 Жыл бұрын
​@@randomaccount3574 but why would he leave McKenzie Falls then?? Remember, McKenzie Falls always wins awards over So Random, year after year after year until Sonny arrive that So Random finally wins the award and beat McKenzie Falls... I doubt they would cancel McKenzie Falls for that same reason of losing the award once to So Random... Plus, Sonny left the show unexplained as well and it wouldn't make sense for Chad to be the replacement since he wasn't even there in the 1st place before Sonny
@maggie_knolastname
@maggie_knolastname 2 жыл бұрын
I personally feel like Carlos was done justice for the Royal Wedding special If you look at it from a certain perspective, Mal’s wedding was a HUGE event and even if Carlos went away for something else he wouldn’t miss that for the world! In a way…the only way to write him off for that occasion in a respectable way was that he passed away. Also it gave the cast a way for them to say they missed him and wished that he could be here for the special too. I thought that was done very well but I totally respect your opinion Carlos was my favorite of the boy descendants and I’ve followed Cameron’s acting career since Jessie so his death hit me like a truck. It was nice to see they didn’t try to make anyone else voice Carlos but pay a tribute to him.
@jj.loveli
@jj.loveli 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same exact thing! I atually feel that it’s more respectful to say the character passed away along with the actor because we loved how they did in the role, that it wouldn’t be right to picture anyone else in that role. Kinda like on Glee (Cory Monteith) and Riverdale (Luke Perry) the actors passed away, and so did their respective characters. It’s better to say that type of goodbye to the character rather than saying that they went away somewhere. It just wouldn’t feel right. Like with the Sex and the City reboot series. I don’t actually watch it, but apparently an actor from the original passed away, and instead of having the character pass as well, they said he went on a spur of the moment vacation. And to me that just makes it seems like there’s a possibility of the character making a return, but obviously that won’t be the case. It just feels disrespectful.
@maggie_knolastname
@maggie_knolastname 2 жыл бұрын
@@jj.loveli agreed
@michelleb9884
@michelleb9884 2 жыл бұрын
I felt weird about the Nia thing too until I remembered that Devon moved back to Chicago in the Raven’s Home finale. I don’t think it’s entirely weird for Nia to stay with her dad especially so as not to disrupt her school and social life. A lot of divorced parents do that. It will be interesting to see how Booker fares without his twin and Levi though.
@b3nnyrabb1t
@b3nnyrabb1t Жыл бұрын
Also there was like two episodes in one of the earlier seasons about Nia wanting to live with him anyway, and the only reason she didn't (or the biggest) was because he moved to Texas, so if he moved back, it makes sense for her to stay with him.
@samanthadonjuan9483
@samanthadonjuan9483 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually rewatching Sonny with a chance and I feel so bad to know we never got a good real ending, I can't be mad about it, I'm not, because I've always loved Demi and I know they needed to step back from all of that, but it just feels like there's a whole in my chest (so dramatic) and even when I'm enjoying the show and the ship I get sad out of nowhere thinking about season 2 finale.
@mpatient133
@mpatient133 2 жыл бұрын
I watched all of Sonny with a Chance when I first got disney plus and it hurt that the show ended with so much unresolved plot. Then they just turned it into a kids SNL for the second season, I LOVED the second season too but it wasn’t the same
@eclipsicalbluestocking1182
@eclipsicalbluestocking1182 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Brady left Pair of Kings and thought the body double was so unconvincing. For some reason I thought the actor died so they had to write him out.
@qmchale5130
@qmchale5130 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mitchell Musso got into some trouble in real life and had to be asked to leave the show.
@markly5460
@markly5460 2 жыл бұрын
@@qmchale5130 it's explained in the video that he got a DUI so they had to take him out of the show
@cecexoxoable
@cecexoxoable 2 жыл бұрын
This whole video made me think of Emma in H2O: Just Add Water, even though it isn't Disney Channel lol. But as far as Disney goes, Maddie being absent in season 3 of The Suite Life of Zack and Cody.
@mikaelaoliver9919
@mikaelaoliver9919 Жыл бұрын
OMG YES! H2O was so tragic to me as a child
@supervideomaker9136
@supervideomaker9136 2 жыл бұрын
I remember as a kid, I hated that Brady left the show. His replacement was also super annoying to even kid me. Honestly they should have just canceled the show. The third season basically had no soul and lost its heart.
@lilenwasnothere6867
@lilenwasnothere6867 2 жыл бұрын
i was SO pissed off. i could not watch the rest of the episodes.
@northdakota1150
@northdakota1150 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so sad about Ant farms 3rd season like they got rid of Paisley, Cameron, Skiddmore, and Gibson like that season just doesn’t feel right or have the same soul
@ondasundae8995
@ondasundae8995 2 жыл бұрын
The way Benjamin King's response was so well and respectful is amazing!! Your videos are always amazing !! Thank you Caitlin!! 💛
@elipsis7651
@elipsis7651 2 жыл бұрын
I remember actually shedding tears over Rachel leaving Stuck In the Middle when i was younger, I even cried a little again when I rewatched it recently
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
That was really upsetting to me. It's stupid but she was my favorite character. Then when I found out the actress was on On My Block I was like "NO WAY?!?!" ._. Short lived happiness
@vanessafulton6203
@vanessafulton6203 Жыл бұрын
After seeing this video a year later, I think that the absence and route they took for Cameron Boyce as Carlos is very similar to how Disney and Marvel handled the passing of Chadwick Boseman in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. I also agreed with you at first about wishing how Carlos could've at least lived on in the series as his character Carlos, but after seeing the cast interviews and the public's reaction to having T'Challa pass on when Chadwick passed I think it was necessary. It's nice as viewers to see a character live on even when the actor is gone, but I think the real-life cast and personal relationships they had with others would make it somewhat cruel to continue the character on as if nothing happened when the actor is who brought life to them. I think Disney handled it well, and took a sensitive subject and made it honest and real, and let the cast process and grieve the loss of their co-worker and friend in a very authentic way, and in the process gave the character a proper send-off.
@hikariuchiha977
@hikariuchiha977 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you included Disney XD shows because I feel like everyone talks about the Disney channel shows but often forget about the XD shows which in my opinion were low key funnier than the Disney channel shows 😅
@dancingintheraine
@dancingintheraine 2 жыл бұрын
according to the books, Lonnie was off at college. All of the characters (but Jane and Carlos) graduated in the last book
@descendaintss
@descendaintss 2 ай бұрын
Why did they not graduate?
@dancingintheraine
@dancingintheraine 2 ай бұрын
@@descendaintss they’re a year younger :)
@oliviamayer24601
@oliviamayer24601 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know this is an unpopular opinion or not but I much rather prefer when shows write characters out rather than replacing them with a different actor. I know these shows aren’t real but it just feels weird watching someone else play a character you’re already familiar with.
@nagelissevazquez5483
@nagelissevazquez5483 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know if you ever watch greenhouse academy but it’s on Netflix and that exactly what they did, they replaced some of the actors and it was so annoying
@tvfantatic3957
@tvfantatic3957 2 жыл бұрын
In A.N.T Farm, you hardly see the mom at all. It's the dad you see constantly. I hated Lonnie not being on Descendant 3! I loved her and wanted her and Jay be together. I hated Max leaving, and the whole Maxine thing in Wizards of Waverly Place. I haven't seen season three of Soy Luna yet, but I'm not ready for Gaston to leave and for him and Nina to break up. Carlos! 😭😭😭😭
@ayah2114
@ayah2114 2 жыл бұрын
i havent seen s2 yet and even though i went into the show knowing gastina wasn't endgame i still got heavily invested in their storyline
@tvfantatic3957
@tvfantatic3957 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayah2114. Same! They're my third favorite couple in the show.
@lunarialoonatic
@lunarialoonatic 2 жыл бұрын
Least Max came back tho
@tvfantatic3957
@tvfantatic3957 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunarialoonatic. True. But I still hated it.
@wwefangirl1154
@wwefangirl1154 2 жыл бұрын
I’m very happy that kickin it is finally getting brought up on this channel! I think it would be really interesting to do a ranking of your top ten favorite Disney XD shows!
@kat-fk7on
@kat-fk7on 2 жыл бұрын
oh my god don’t even get me started of how they handled raven in the third cheetah girls, I completely agree that them just mentioning her in ONE line at the beggining of that movie and then never again was not close to the exit she deserved. Like I get that raven didn’t wanna do that anymore and that’s totally fine but she literally was the leader and backbone of the group and idk I would have atleast liked to seen the girls mention her more in the movie. It felt like after that one line they just forgot she existed
@Oneasianpersuasion
@Oneasianpersuasion 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they didn't even make the third movie. I agree with everything you say and the third movie just wasn't the same for me without Raven. I also didn't like most of the songs anyway and my biggest association to the Cheetah Girls was with Raven because I watched That's So Raven.
@allinonechrista
@allinonechrista Жыл бұрын
I miss Hudson from Jessie so much😭 I don't know why he wasn't in more than three episodes, I truly loved the dynamic he and Jessie had. Both of them came to New York to pursue their dreams and became nannies by accident and I feel like that despite their differences, having that in common could've helped the two to be closer. I admit that I do ship them and I wish they would've dated for at least a little while - I MEAN even Jessie said that she's surprised that she hadn't dated him yet lol. And Hudson seems to like Jessie because he was so excited when the professor made Jessie and Hudson be partners on projects for the rest of the semester even after the two spent the whole episode not getting along. Aside from the ship, I always love those characters that are hyper, overly energetic, impulsive, playful, and fun-loving like Hudson is, so I just wish we would've had more episodes with him in it. There's other characters from Disney that I wished didn't leave, like Marci from Best Friends Whenever, Gunther from Shake It Up, Pete from Liv and Maddie (I also wish Holden and Josh were in the show more), and Oliver from Hannah Montana, but surprisingly, Hudson's character only being in three episodes of Jessie hurts me the most out of all of them. I feel like I'm the only one that actually cares about his character, but I really do like his character a lot and I wish we would've gotten to see his character develop. He said that he had a lot to learn from Jessie about how to be a nanny and I feel like that maybe, Hudson could've learned to be a little more responsible and become a better nanny if he would've been in more episodes.
@the_tangled_girl9494
@the_tangled_girl9494 2 жыл бұрын
Every character from My Babysitters A Vampire, because I'm still mad they cancelled it
@amandahealey2216
@amandahealey2216 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was addressed in the books that Lonnie became a professional ROAR player. But I do agree, they should have brought that up in the movie.
2 жыл бұрын
Until this day I'm just asking myself... Who the heck is Hannah?
@jandm4ever716
@jandm4ever716 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I get it if the actress couldn’t do it, but at least mention where she is. Even Audrey got a shout out in descendants 2
@girlmeetspup5778
@girlmeetspup5778 2 жыл бұрын
also im so sorry you felt so hurt about carlos! i completely get it! the whole situation of cameron and carlos is heartbreaking but dont worry, everything always lives on in the afterlife :)
@dragonsailorzero179
@dragonsailorzero179 2 жыл бұрын
Miranda from Lizzie McGuire is an infamous one from my childhood. And Raven from Zenon was a little lacking too. I also missed Artie from Liv and Maddie, and really a lot of the friend characters--they deserved a lot more credit than they got. Justin from Wizards and Sonny from Sonny with a Chance I agree with, though I thought Wizards handled it okay, not only for Justin but Max in the last season (who was also gone a few episodes). Both actors were missed, but not forgotten. With Sonny, though, I honestly wished we got a Mackenzie Falls spin off instead.
@fantasyfiction101
@fantasyfiction101 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh Miranda, I missed her when she was missing.
@UriosEditz
@UriosEditz 2 жыл бұрын
Artie don't leave
@AlexAswag14
@AlexAswag14 2 жыл бұрын
I felt that the way about Eddie from Kickin' It disappearing after season 1 was messed up since he was the only black character on the show. Back then I saw something that claimed he was deemed a boring character so that's why he was gone, but I still didn't like it. Also everything you said in the video completely agreed with.
@roseee9564
@roseee9564 2 жыл бұрын
It was after season 2, but yea I fully agree. I don’t get how they could write out his character. Oh and also how the other characters all just completely forgot about him and he was never mentioned again
@AlexAswag14
@AlexAswag14 2 жыл бұрын
@@roseee9564 Exactly I thought someone had said he went to London but that was probably wishful thinking on the writer's part.
@roseee9564
@roseee9564 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlexAswag14 yea I think so haha at least I don’t remember it either
@AlexAswag14
@AlexAswag14 2 жыл бұрын
@@roseee9564 If he didn't choose to leave then they definitely suck for how it went down.
@aynsleyyost5168
@aynsleyyost5168 Жыл бұрын
He was so disrespected in the show like everyone always says he sucks as karate but in the group fight scenes he is just as good a Milton and jerry but Is always talked down by the rest of the group mostly Rudy and it was so frustrating it was not clear why he was the joke the whole time
@stephaniereese4949
@stephaniereese4949 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining why those episodes of Andi Mack are missing from Disney +. Knew about the actor but didn’t realize that’s why they weren’t up. Thanks for making this video. There were so many people mentioned that I forgot about!
@dylanly6357
@dylanly6357 Жыл бұрын
bro im still mad they never gave a goodbye to eddie from kicking it.
@Ana_Paula.Frasson
@Ana_Paula.Frasson 2 жыл бұрын
-"The way you guys feel about the characters leaving the shows" Me: crying on bunk'd. -I was very happy they didn't divorce Liv and Maddie's parents, because even though would've been easier for the writters, him leaving for a job remembered me of a time when my dad had to go to another state for work and he and my mom made it work out well too, of course we missed him, but he needed the job and we supported. Nice they put it on the show. -Wait, wait, wait. You went to the set of zombies? The actress had a baby? What's happening here?! Lol I didn't hear these before I got super confused. -OMG, I always hated the way Braco and Napo were written out of Violetta. I was like 9 when s2 came out and didn't make any sense in my little brain why 2 friends of the group were gone and why nobody talked about it. -Kim and Jack were my babies and I shipped them for so long that hurted hard not seeing them together. But I was just very happy that because she left we didn't get drama in their relationship. They never broke up and every time Jack brought her up was with loving comments, so I was ok with it. -what happened with the andy mack guy? I didn't hear about it either. -I didn't like Carlos death either, felt out of place. I have a lot of respect for Cameron, but they could've used old records of him or make the character out for a little and be at the wedding without saying anything. But I couldn't be ok with one of my favorite characters simply dying without even knowing how or seeing a proper funeral.
@nathalief.1350
@nathalief.1350 2 жыл бұрын
The actor of Andi Mack, had a lot of charges including his pedophile behavior. He was arrested.
@Ana_Paula.Frasson
@Ana_Paula.Frasson 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathalief.1350. OMG that's horrible and he was in a kids show??!!! Thanks for telling me.
@JennyThePlatypus
@JennyThePlatypus 2 жыл бұрын
I just randomly remembered Doc Shaw left Suite Life On Deck to be on Pair Of Kings
@caitlinmckillop
@caitlinmckillop 2 жыл бұрын
i remembered this while editing too and had to take a moment
@JennyThePlatypus
@JennyThePlatypus 2 жыл бұрын
@@caitlinmckillop for some reason I completely forgot he was in that show
@chloesullivan2763
@chloesullivan2763 2 жыл бұрын
i was upset that in shake it up guther was took out randomly with no excuse
@haleywalker1640
@haleywalker1640 Жыл бұрын
5:17 Honestly, I was wondering why they didn't make Mackenzie Falls a real show (or make it a separate segment, if they couldn't afford to make both at the same time). I think a lot of people would have eaten up a parody of super serious teen dramas, even if it was a TVY7 version of it.
@AJ-xc4qe
@AJ-xc4qe 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that Raven's Home has a certain formula that the show barely tries to be creative with like Phineas and Ferb and maybe the fifth season is their way of shaking things up even though I don't agree with how they're going about it but I'll get to that. Every episode seems to be like this: Booker wants to do something stupid. He influences Levi to do the stupid thing with him. Nia refuses to do the stupid thing with him because she's the smart and mature sister but she ends up doing the stupid thing with him anyway or does something almost as stupid, making her a hypocrite. Booker gets a vision of a bad thing happening, he tries to prevent the bad thing from happening and the bad thing happens anyway. Making Booker less and less of an expert psychic like his mom, even after spending enough time with his powers to learn from that. Tess blurts out some cringe hip hop dialogue. And Raven and Chelsea go on a sometimes funny, sometimes not adventure that has nothing to do with Raven's own visions. That's pretty much the same formula from the entire show. Do I want the show to get cancelled? No, but it deserves better writers, tho. And for some reason, Tanya and Cory are still MIA. And it's not like Booker has NEVER prevented a bad thing from happening or making a good thing happen because of his visions. But either way, half or most of the time, it's like nothing he does matter because his visions happen no matter what. Making the vision twists feel pointless and not even exciting anymore. And they're supposed to be the best part of this whole franchise. And this is mainly biased, but the visions always led Raven or the other main characters into unpredictable and hilarious plots. Maybe younger viewers have the same feeling about Raven's Home post-vision plots cuz I've seen it all before. And it's even more frustrating when I read that the only time Raven Baxter has a vision in the ENTIRE fourth season is in a Bunk'd crossover! Yeah, how ironic for me that the only time the original psychic of this franchise gets even one vision is in a crossover with a show I hate. This wouldn't be so distracting if the show at least acknowledged it. What if Raven DID lose her visions? Would she be excited that she no longer carries any burden or would she feel lost and powerless next to her son who still has HIS visions? Also, maybe it's just me, but I feel like Nia is the only main character with no real development on the show so far. Booker being second since he doesn't have a better handle on his powers unless I missed something. So yeah, Season 4 was not my favorite season. That being said, the penultimate episode this season was the funniest episode in a long time and the last episode, while not as funny, was very strong with its' story and characterization. It was a nice just-in-case series finale. I say just in case because Disney sometimes makes their decisions on whether or not they renew their shows after the season has already ended. And considering their habit of screwing their shows over, it was great that the show acknowledges this and gives them a just-in-case finale that neither of its' predesscors got. Doesn't make the show's wasted opportunities any less frustrating, though. Luckily, it's getting a fifth season and regardless of this show's quality, they deserve a fifth season more than Bunk'd. On the other hand, I'm concerned about Raven and Booker leaving everyone behind to San Francisco. Nia may not be my favorite character but how are you going to separate her from her twin brother? Or Chelsea, the second best thing about this show? It doesn't even matter they're bringing Alana and Victor back. Where the hell is Tanya!?! Also I had a crossover idea with Sydney to the Max, the only other current Discom that's close to good, that had Nia and Tess involved. Long story, Raven has a vision of intercom announcing a girl named Sydney will be arriving at a Chicago airport, thinking it's the little girl Sydney from the original series, but ends up meeting a different Sydney who's vacationing with her dad and grandma. But the other Sydney shows up at the end of the Raven episode. In the Sydney episode, the Baxter-Carter-Graysons follow the Reynolds' to Portland where Max realizes the girl he babysat when he was a kid vacationing in San Francisco was Raven who in the flashbacks is getting her first visions. In the present, Sydney and the Raven's Home kids make music together and plan a concert at the bike shop but Sydney becomes paranoid when Booker is forced to tell her that he had a vision of something ruining the concert. That's how I would've made the crossover. Sigh. If it means the show will fix its mistakes, let's see it where it goes. And give Sydney to the Max another season while you're at it. That's the one recent Discom that's close to good. PS just wondering what your thoughts on Secrets of Sulphur Springs? It's a really good show and it sucks that no one on KZbin talks about it because most adults think all live action kids shows are cringey unwatchable sitcoms and this one show isn't any of that.
@luharrell1
@luharrell1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah most Disney stuff is cringe but I kind of like it too lol
@grace.duchess
@grace.duchess 2 жыл бұрын
that took some time to write didn’t it. congrats for having the patience :)
@AJ-xc4qe
@AJ-xc4qe 2 жыл бұрын
@@grace.duchess Most of the comment is a copy paste from another video from another Disney Channel review from another critic. But my thoughts haven't changed.
@jackpearce367
@jackpearce367 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I gave up on the show but then again I haven’t seen a single season 4 episode in its entirety so yeah
@hotpotatoeshotpotatoes6221
@hotpotatoeshotpotatoes6221 2 жыл бұрын
Secrets of sulphur springs seems interesting. I like that it takes a slightly darker approach to things then some current disney shows.
@rachelkenney8660
@rachelkenney8660 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also someone who is really really very mad and irritated with the way Gaston left in the third season. Even without bringing him back, the writers could have done so much better with his exit. Nina should have agreed to visit him and... well I could go one for hours and forever so I'll stop here. Oh but I do have a challenge for you Caitlin, My challenge to you is: to write a satisfactory exit for Gaston from the show, and share it with us.
@florentinenice9146
@florentinenice9146 2 жыл бұрын
Nice pfp. Doctor who
@neivilde.1242
@neivilde.1242 2 жыл бұрын
the way that the actress had a child but is playing a teenager lmao
@madisonyour5369
@madisonyour5369 2 жыл бұрын
While filming a DCOM I wonder what they are going to do with her character.
@ayah2114
@ayah2114 2 жыл бұрын
@@madisonyour5369 i mean billy unger (chase from lab rats) had a kid at 17 the year lab rats started
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayah2114 FOR REAL?!?!
@foxja1
@foxja1 2 жыл бұрын
@@obliviousfantasy633 yeah he was like 16 and the kid was born maybe a month after the show started. He’s still with the mother their married now and have another kid. Tbh kinda romantic
@bluishblow
@bluishblow 2 жыл бұрын
18:40 i was hoping you talked about that! besides the awful general situation, we can't whatch it legally 😣
@teenthings8015
@teenthings8015 2 жыл бұрын
Eddie from kickin it s1 and s2 was like never brought up again without a send off that made me mad
@The_Inferior_Retroman
@The_Inferior_Retroman 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@putonmyfavoriteshow
@putonmyfavoriteshow 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed the description of this LOL Great video, glad you didn't scrap it after the first filming. And I feel very much the same about Carlos
@ILoveCookie3
@ILoveCookie3 2 жыл бұрын
A show I'm still upset about is Bunk'd. After season two, Xander, Jorge, Tiffany, Griff, and Hazel are all gone during season three. Gladys was gone too, but her disappearance is explained in S2E1 (she took the money sent in from campers and left). There is literally no explanation for the others though. Not only that, but the show continued after the third season. I thought that that was the series finale since the Ross kids were leaving, and it was a Jessie spinoff after all. Plus, the new characters in season three (Destiny, Finn, and Matteo) almost felt like other versions of the Ross kids (Destiny resembled Emma; Finn was like Luke; and Matteo was similar to Ravi). But then the show came back with a fourth season, and the only person left was Lou.
@piperelvera
@piperelvera 2 жыл бұрын
I love the bangs on you!
@drewydecimalsystem
@drewydecimalsystem 2 жыл бұрын
I Googled the stoney westmoreland case because I wasn't sure what he had done, I feel like Disney is trying to keep it under rapps, you can find information about what he did and that he was on andi mack but everytime I looked up ' who did stoney westmoreland play in andi mack' I allways found that it would only show when looking at his actor profile that he played someone in star trek and had to look at a few websites to actually find out who he played wich was just strange to me.
@obliviousfantasy633
@obliviousfantasy633 2 жыл бұрын
@Jasmine N. Google results are very tailored to each person so idk
@margotheslideshowgal
@margotheslideshowgal 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a mention of Gunter from Shake it Up. It made me so mad when he left!
@Icespice1_
@Icespice1_ 2 жыл бұрын
i know!! i can’t even watch the 3rd season!
@jeonghansupremacist
@jeonghansupremacist 2 жыл бұрын
omg i went into the instagram of the violetta guy just praying he didnt became like a far right lunatic and was so relievied that he is just into drag and queer performance art 😭 i forget how soft/vanilla caitlin can be
@samezekiel9749
@samezekiel9749 2 жыл бұрын
being a massive lovatic for a few years now, i keep remembering the times i used to watch So Random! and wonder where demi was. But being 8 at the time, i never knew about what they were going through and honestly as much as i adored that show, listening to demi describe how deeply miserable they were at that time makes me happy that they left the show.
@LaurenLaass
@LaurenLaass 2 жыл бұрын
Halloweentown MUST be mentioned in the video. I'm still furious and I feel like no one talks about it. I AM UPSET and it's been over 10 years.
@JessicaLynn10
@JessicaLynn10 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so angry that they ousted Chelsea and everyone else from raven's home! It's ridiculous. Changing it so much and why like i just don't understand it.
@jassyjones
@jassyjones 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mia is going to be with Devon in Texas, I think I heard that Annilese is doing a broadway show and if I remember correctly Levi went to London with his dad in season 4 finale. I’m not sure why Tess not on it but Sky is doing music
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura 2 жыл бұрын
@@jassyjones yes so basically it’s a brand new show
@amberdennis7909
@amberdennis7909 2 жыл бұрын
After 4 seasons of a show Disney has to pay the actors more money. Usually they just cancel a show but sometimes they do these weird reboot things ( like Hannah Montanaa forever, Bunked, and the last season of Liv and Maddie).
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura 2 жыл бұрын
@@amberdennis7909 yup so will booker have his own show ?
@lateramae
@lateramae 2 жыл бұрын
​@@amberdennis7909 That's so cruel! Disney would rather fire the actors and ruin perfectly good shows just so they don't have to pay the actors?
@ryanmeneo6301
@ryanmeneo6301 2 жыл бұрын
My theory on Chad in so random: he joined the cast to get back with Sonny but Sonny had to go home due to a family emergency and now chad is stuck in his contract for so random
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I made this up in my head to try and explain it but didn't they say in the first episode that Mackenzie Falls got cancelled and he moved to there show.
@hikariuchiha977
@hikariuchiha977 2 жыл бұрын
I hate that so many main characters had to leave the shows abruptly : Brady, Sonny etc I feel like we never got closure on their stories
@rileyywhited
@rileyywhited 2 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely not watching season 5 of Raven’s Home. That’s literally what ruined Bunk’d!
@PinkGoesWellWithGreen24
@PinkGoesWellWithGreen24 2 жыл бұрын
Me either! It takes away the whole storyline of the show where familes came together to form as one, that was the whole point of the show, to show it didn't matter where they came from or if they shared blood, they were now one family and making it work. The idea of season 5 would have been great...for season 1 of the show, after four seasons removing everyone just to focus more on the visions and their ablites is awful, I for one never watched the show, or That's So Raven for that matter, because of the visions, they were fun and a bonus but that was not the main reason I watched the show, it was the characters and storylines I loved way before that. And I am not watching it as I learned my lesson. One of my favorite shows of all time had an awful third season, I hated it but finished it only to complete the series, no other reason. I can honestly say ever since I watched it, I never watched an episode of the series again, it totally killed my love for it completely and I could just never get back in to it again, and I have regretted watching the season ever since for that reason, I am not going to make the same mistake twice!
@movinggalaxy9655
@movinggalaxy9655 Жыл бұрын
Caitlin! You didn't mention Eddie from Kickin' It! He just disappeared and not one character acknowledged or even mentioned it. It was like he didn't even exist in the first two seasons.
@acetrainerj3277
@acetrainerj3277 Жыл бұрын
It always bugged me how Eddie just left Kickin' It with no explanation or sendoff. The first 2 seasons, he was one of the main characters, one of the group. But season 3 and onward, not only is he just gone but nobody talks about him. Like he was never there in the first place
@Gsr_automotive
@Gsr_automotive 2 жыл бұрын
I think carlos is kinda like Black Panther in the mcu. I'm excited for Wakanda forever and I'm curious to see how they're gonna take it. Kevin Feige said they don't wanna replace him so they might do the same take but idk. Anyways RIP Cameron and RIP Chadwick.
@viceroymarx406
@viceroymarx406 2 жыл бұрын
michael musso having to leave pair of kings ruined the show for me. it was my favorite show as a kid lol i used to watch it with my dad every day after school. not to bully the guy who played boz, but he just didn't work as well 🤷‍♀️
@jamisonutech5182
@jamisonutech5182 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the exact same way
@disneyqueen6319
@disneyqueen6319 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if they continued the character Carlos, it would have been too hard on the family seeing their sons face on the screens again. I felt that this was a beautiful way to do it. That wasn't Mal, Evie and Jay talking. Their real selves and you can hear it in Doves voice.
@Rubi0o0
@Rubi0o0 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the decision Disney made with Carlos was the right one. The main four of Descendants were the core of the series at the end of the day, their relationship was above all important to the stories and plot lines even if Carlos and Jay sometimes got sidelined a bit. Writing Carlos off to be gone for some arbitrary reason or even replacing his Voice Actor while keeping the character feels like Disney is purposely going against that true meaning of those four friends truly being friends. By paying tribute to Boyce in the short as well as touching upon the fact that the character Carlos has also passed away that core message can still be expressed while allowing the characters as well as the cast to continue doing Descendants as it's become something dear to them too.
@vryford4365
@vryford4365 2 жыл бұрын
14:19 wasn’t he also the jerk leader of the sophisticated wizard that Jerry wanted Max to join in season 4 or 3? And he also might be playing the same person idk
@madisonyour5369
@madisonyour5369 2 жыл бұрын
It really makes me mad when a character leaves a show and they never explain their absent why they are gone.
@salanaya8718
@salanaya8718 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 woah this is like the first time I'm hearing about this! I didn't know much about the show after not watching it for a while, lol. But that is kinda weird how Raven would take the kid with the psychic powers (Booker) and leave the kid without powers (Nia). But I'm looking forward to it too!
@rinkos3775
@rinkos3775 2 жыл бұрын
if we are gonna talk about people disappearing from kickin’ it can we just talk about eddie 😭😭 like we didn’t even get a goodbye or even a mention (that i remember) of where he went
@Crash7031
@Crash7031 2 жыл бұрын
The Ravens Home season 5 is probably what everyone wanted from the start. While the new take on the Chicago theme and living in an apartment was nice there just wasn't any nostalgic feeling so i'll be interested in how they take on the new season brining back some of the stuff from the first show even thou most of cast members wont be present from the past seasons.
@freakytostadacartoon
@freakytostadacartoon 2 жыл бұрын
but there will be no Cory, no Tanya, no Chelsea.
@Melted-Kuchi-kopi
@Melted-Kuchi-kopi 2 жыл бұрын
@@freakytostadacartoon please tell me that Tanya and Victor are still married and she'll exist off screen
@freakytostadacartoon
@freakytostadacartoon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Melted-Kuchi-kopi I think that they still married off screen.
@florentinenice9146
@florentinenice9146 2 жыл бұрын
Omg yess WoWp that was... Pain. He was a main character! I think it's because he has a family now and moved on but still I mean one cameo? Ahhhh. Like I needed some Alex X Justin closure. Something like "seems like you are doing just fine without me", "I always did!", "What about...." "Ok ok shut up. Gosh can't believe I miss that" "Did you just say you miss me?" "No?" "I miss you, Max and Mom and Dad too" "Alex Justin come here" It would have been so much better if all were there and what was with Juliette? That I wished Justin would have been in there for the whole movie. Damn it. That's a wound I didn't know was still there.
@isiaadiel3468
@isiaadiel3468 2 жыл бұрын
Removing a character when the actor passes is common (not always, but plenty) in anime and films in Japan. It has roots in superstition but mostly respect for their legacy. However, with it not being done in America to the point people know how to handle it, they added it which made it feel off. The one thing fans would want is to believe the character lives on in their memory and they took that away.
@piss7610
@piss7610 2 жыл бұрын
Which animes have that?
@bigonbooks4736
@bigonbooks4736 2 жыл бұрын
The Japanese actor of Phil had already passed away before the actor could record Kingdom Hearts 3, so while they had to keep him in the video game, they kept him silent.
@JennyThePlatypus
@JennyThePlatypus 2 жыл бұрын
The Sonny one doesn’t make me mad, it just makes me sad :( (cuz of the reason Demi left)
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura 2 жыл бұрын
I never watched so random . I only watched sonny for Demi
@bonza.inthestu
@bonza.inthestu Жыл бұрын
i remember brady leaving pair of kings and I couldn't even bring myself to keep watching after that
@emmaa_knapp
@emmaa_knapp 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like one that ruined the show was definitely king brady from pair of kings, the last season was just... off... edit: never mind i just saw further into a video...
@twilightsquire
@twilightsquire 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! I didn't even watch the third season properly because of that, the contractidictions to the plot ruined it 😬
@emmaa_knapp
@emmaa_knapp 2 жыл бұрын
@@twilightsquire yeah i had to force myself
@twilightsquire
@twilightsquire 2 жыл бұрын
@@emmaa_knapp I lost it at the fact that in season 2 they meet the lady of the cave who is never wrong and they establish she's never wrong and she shows Boomer and Brady are the 2 Kings of legend and then in season 3 it's like nah it's Boomer and Boz 🥴 like they literally broke their own rules 😑
@hikariuchiha977
@hikariuchiha977 2 жыл бұрын
Same I don't think I even watched s3
@girlmeetspup5778
@girlmeetspup5778 2 жыл бұрын
i think that's awesome that the 'Liv and Maddie' dad replied to you!!!!
@brennicolas3093
@brennicolas3093 2 жыл бұрын
Back when it was rare for a Disney Channel series to get a fourth season, Disney insisted on the last season being almost an entirely different show because they’re very keen on keeping things new & fresh which is why we got “Hannah Montana Forever” and “Liv & Maddie: Cali Style”, but now that almost every show gets that many seasons it’s rare for them to get FIVE seasons and that’s why Raven’s Home is overhauling most of its cast for the new season, it all has to do with contract negotiations and I’m willing to bet they couldn’t afford to keep everybody since they’d all want pay raises. But while Chelsea, Levi and Tess not coming back makes sense because why would they all follow Raven back to San Francisco, not having Nia is really weird and I wonder if the actress didn’t feel like coming back. I’m sure it will be explained well though because in the trailer we see Booker say “I’ve thought about it, and I’ve decided to stay in San Francisco!” So maybe Raven gave both of them a choice to live with their dad or come with her to San Francisco and I’m sure they’ll mention Nia.
@mariabelenvargassanmartin2314
@mariabelenvargassanmartin2314 2 жыл бұрын
17:01 I haven't seen this series for a long time and I'm not joking, I LITERALLY CRIED RN WATCHING IT AGAIN
@Heyitsann
@Heyitsann 2 жыл бұрын
I will never get over how in “Find Me in Paris” wrote off Max, Pinky AND THEA!! Plus the way they left their storylines and LOVELINESSS!! I will forever be upset over the 3rd season
@MARIE_MS
@MARIE_MS 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@annalivingtv
@annalivingtv 2 жыл бұрын
I think for Carlos and Cameron you could argue that a better ending for his character would have been like what they did for the fast and furious franchise when Paul walker died. He was a main character but they gave him a send off at the end of the movie they had been filming at the time where he retired to go live a peaceful life with his family. And they kind of made a big statement of “we are NOT killing his character” so his send off was super emotional essentially saying that he lives on in their hearts. And then they dedicated the movie to him and it was kind of an “in memorium” Anyways I think they did that beautifully and I think that’s kind of the gold standard for what to do when an actor dies so I totally get not wanting them to kill the character
@joce.islost
@joce.islost 2 жыл бұрын
In my descendants head canon, Carlos and Jane (as she wasn’t there either) were somewhere, and their flight or something got delayed to get back in time.
@faithjacqueline3351
@faithjacqueline3351 2 жыл бұрын
I kind a wish Disney did what they did in the last hunger games movie with the archived footage and they could’ve use some old audio of Cameron to even be in one or two scenes
@ethhers
@ethhers 2 жыл бұрын
i love the bangs ! i recommend watching eah and making a video on it, if you’d like - it’s very similar to mh and it’s a really good series
@yoongituan
@yoongituan 2 жыл бұрын
yesss i like raven’s home but it feels so odd for raven to leave one of her kids behind . even if they’re applying the four seasons rule (idk if it’s actually true but it seems that it is) i think nia deserves to still be part of the cast. also yeah i was also rooting for booker and tess and the new season killed my hopes for that but honestly those two aspects aside it does look promising
@Missmagazinebura
@Missmagazinebura 2 жыл бұрын
Nia went with her dad
@AntonWongVideo
@AntonWongVideo 2 жыл бұрын
well, at least "Sonny with a Chance season 3 / So Random!" gave us the real-life bromance of Shayne Topp and Damien Haas
@jonas8829
@jonas8829 Жыл бұрын
I always wondered what happened to Eddie in kickin it
@TheLrcoffey
@TheLrcoffey 2 жыл бұрын
I was so upset when Tanya Baxter left That’s so Raven, I kept expecting her to come back since she was only in law school. But even more upset she was never in Cory in the House or Raven’s Home, IS SHE STILL IN LAW SCHOOL???
@emmaa_knapp
@emmaa_knapp 2 жыл бұрын
is that a heartbreak weather sweatshirt... yaaaassss queen ❤️💙💚🇮🇪💛
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