Disney Has Forgotten How To Write Good Villains

Disney villains, a tale as old as time... or is it? Because recently it seems that Disney has been abandoning their villain tropes for more nuanced characters, no villains at all or just terrible writing. Which whilst some of those have merit, it's clear it's become tired and audiences want the Disney they know and love. A clear character with no moral ambiguity that it completely and utterly hateable with a fire soundtrack recorded by people that can actually sing for a living. You know, like in the 90s... and Frozen. So clearly the internet needed by take on this mess and I'm sure this will completely turn around the Disney writing board. Anyway, enjoy.

[@spy_penguin28.5]

I think Wish’s villain (King Magnifico) mainly fails because he had no evil plan or anything until near the end when he becomes a “villain”. I think a better way to write his character would be to have him secretly keep the wishes to use their power for some massive scheme (maybe like turning his people into an army to take back his former land or something) and have Asha try to expose him. This is how it could work: 1)King wants people in his kingdom to build an army 2)Creates a kingdom free of rent and grants wishes to bring in the most desperate kinds of people 3)Doesn’t give back wishes that he won’t grant so he can use its power in the climax 4)Gets enough people to enact his plan and take back his former land. Simple.

[@nikitabreslin4568]

Talking about bland heroes and interesting villains - most of the early heroes just had the motive of "be good" and the plot happened to them. Meanwhile, the villains wanted to gain power, be the most beautiful, gain revenge on the kingdom. Magnifico didn't seem to have a motive or a plan aside from rule the kingdom, but he also didn't have someone to bounce off of since Asha also didn't have a plan aside from stop Magnifico from ruling the kingdom. They almost touched on it with the crashed ship and Asha's dad, but then just forgot about it for the rest of the film. Everyone was just sort of along for the journey, no one was propelling it.

[@taliagmail.com2005]

I feel like he was a kind man once

[@rosverlegaspo6752]

That doesn't paint Magnifico as a bad person at all. This actually sounds like Magnifico is a Hero. I mean, we got lot of stories about heroes who build a team or an army to defeat their enemies and take back the things they have lost. What you have written is a typical heroic story. And this is set in ancient times and war is a thing back then (Like what happens in Mulan). Building an army and being a soldier is a very good thing. Heck, all these people Magnifico helped would actually gladly fight for him, and that includes Asha. And heck, Kings should have armies, whole military in fact.

[@spy_penguin28.5]

@@rosverlegaspo6752I know what you mean but when i said “Turn his people into an army” i meant as in mind controlling them against their will. In my post i said that Magnifico would try to gather as many DESPERATE people as possible to steal their wishes for himself. If these people are desperate, then they wouldn’t willingly fight in wars considered they probably fled from war-torn countries or something similar to this safe haven. In short, Magnifico FORCEFULLY creates an army using all of his people and is fuelled by REVENGE. (I admit i could’ve been a bit more clear on why that made Magnifico evil in the first place tho)

[@SpiderkillersInc]

Looking over the deleted scenes, one of Magnifico’s early incarnations had the goal of bringing a star down from the sky for himself because he feels empty inside. This is when he and Amaya were evil together. Also, to compensate for when his attempts fail, he eats the wishes, with Amaya having to stop him from being too brazen about it. That’s an interesting dynamic, Magnifico wanting the wishing star because he feels empty and hollow and thinks only by getting it will he be satisfied while Amaya helps him out of sincere love while preventing him from going too far.

[@DragonGoddess18]

Genie from "Aladdin": *doesn't grant every wish that he hears* He's a good guy Magnifico from "Wish": *doesn't grant every wish that people willingly give to him* Main character: "😱 You're a heartless, irredeemable monster!!" 😒...Sure

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Her problem was that he was keeping the wishes for himself. And without they're wishes they will forget they're wish and won't accomplish it on they're own because they can't remember this wish

[@barbararab6390]

​@@Simbala-bq5vy didnt she say that in the rosas song tho? Só she knew, everyone knew, not his fault

[@taliagmail.com2005]

poor king magnifico

[@alexandru5369]

Yeah whoever wrote that POS movie are clear narcissist Lord forbid you don't get what you want all the time

[@DragonGoddess18]

@@alexandru5369 Exactly 💯

[@TPRules17]

The 90s Disney movies had the best villains. Change my mind. Let’s just stop with the remakes and go back to the GA Disney.

[@txwtw]

90s was peak Disney era

[@AnnStyle]

ikr

[@OpticalSorcerer]

I feel like nowadays they wanted their villains to feel a bit more human (ie not completely evil) or simply wanted to try a new approach to villains. Sometimes twist villains worked, like in Zootopia, since it was a mystery film.

[@owenharrison761]

But they also have the more simple main characters, with a few exceptions

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@owenharrison761 Gotta disagree on that. Hiro, Moana, Anna, Elsa, Judy, Mirabel, Tiana, Ralph, Rapunzel, and Raya are pretty complex. Asha is the only simple one thus far, imo; she learns nothing new and doesn't change, being exactly the same person at the beginning and ending of the film.

[@superfanmusicmaker]

Magnifico has a lot of issues as a villain, but probably the biggest one is that, when it comes to the main conflict, his stance actually makes more sense than the heroes' does. Which in itself wouldn't be an issue if they were actually trying to do one of their more nuanced, "no real bad guy" plots like they've been doing recently, but it doesn't work because the filmmakers clearly didn't even realise this nuance. There's certainly flaws in Magnifico's ideas, but on the whole his system works too well for it to really feel like a problem that needs to be solved (especially when they actually changed and removed the scenes and concepts that actually would have shown it in a worse light). And even with the issues that are there, Asha never really gives much of a valid or pragmatic alternative to them, but the film treats her as unequivocally in the right and ends up using a literal magic book to turn Magnifico fully evil so they can avoid having any kind of nuanced conflict or discussion over it. The filmmakers wanted Magnifico to be a throwback to their classic, irredeemable villains, but in execution he ends up looking more sympathetic and reasonable than Abuela from _Encanto_ did.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

Also why was this movie a secret origin for the magic mirror in Snow White? Did really need an origin story for the mirror?

[@Kaelronpa4299]

Bro didn't do anything wrong and the writers force him to be a villian. Imagine if Frolo did every evil action in the movie and suddenly he became the savior of the day. Litteraly scrap and rewrite at the very last second

[@OcraStars]

I agree with a lot of this, but I’d argue that Magnifico shouldn’t have been a villain at all. For context, I have complex-post traumatic stress disorder as a result of extensive childhood trauma - I live every single day in a state of fear for my own safety and literally anything can be a threat for me. So when I saw Wish, I was shocked to see a character who almost perfectly portrays what trauma does to a person. I’m not kidding! He had it all: the obsessive overanalysing, the tendency to lash out when prodded a little too hard, even his initial reaction to Star’s arrival - the man almost fainted in the presence of pure, unbridled joy! I *adored* Magnifico’s portrayal and would probably hug Chris Pine for giving me this fully relatable character. My personal take is that Disney had no idea what they were creating with Magnifico. Either they made him and realised he wasn’t evil enough, or they leaned too hard (yet not hard enough) into his moral reasoning. Whichever the case, Magnifico isn’t fit to be a villain any more than Alma was in Encanto. This feels a lot like “he’s evil because mental illness”, which is the last thing anyone should do with a villain.

[@superfanmusicmaker]

@@OcraStars From what we do know of their original plans, Magnifico being an irredeemable villain was always the idea, but in the earlier drafts he was actually way, _way_ worse. There was no trauma or sympathetic backstory, he was already abusing his power from the start (e.g. destroying/consuming wishes, which he doesn't resort to until much later in the finished film) and while his main subjects were fooled by his propaganda, everyone else clearly saw him as a monstrous tyrant and the kingdom wasn't prospering until his rule. For whatever reason, they decided to heavily tone him down to make him less scary, but the changes they made and the subtext that comes with them - like the fact that everybody _is_ legit happy under him or, as you mentioned with his tragic upbringing, a lot of his actions can easily be read as PTSD-related - completely contradicts the irredeemable, evil monster that they still wanted him to be.

[@bearerofbadnews1375]

@@OcraStars also now that Magnifico becomes the magic mirror it makes me think of a boss fight in a video game called Kingdom hearts birth by sleep in Terra’s campaign where he fights the magic mirror. Which spoilers Terra loses his body to Xehanort and is transformed a transformed into his guardian. Maybe I’m thinking to hard about this.

[@meghanbarry3489]

To me, Gothel in Tangled was the last good villain in a Disney movie. You knew her motivations from the beginning. They didn’t try to make her ambiguous in her actions. It was a simple motivation. She wanted the golden flower to keep herself young. The flower was taken from her, so she tried to get it back by cutting a piece of Rapunzel’s hair. When that didn’t work, she did the next thing she could. She took Rapunzel and did everything in her power to keep her there. Did she have powers/magic like Maleficent? No. But she still bullied Rapunzel into staying in the tower and manipulated her. And that was it. That was all you needed. There was no moral ambiguity. She like the other Disney villains of the past was evil and that was it. I feel like they tried that with Magnifico. I don’t know, maybe one more rewrite could’ve helped.

[@kozhcaelum8495]

Precisely. And the complexity of the relationship comes from rapunzel instead of gothel. When she plummeted to her death, it was rapunzel who only reach out her hand, even though she's supposed to hate gothel. I really like that particular moment because it shows how hard to instantly fully hate/not care about someone whom you love and care about for year

[@alexandruulesan7009]

feels like there was a period after the renascence when Disney TVA had the monopoly on amazing Villains: Bill Cypher, Emperor Belos, King Andreas, even the episodic villains from the Ducktales reboot. It's almost as if the Studio got embarrassed of one of their biggest success factors and passed all the talent in the category down

[@blinkowarner3117]

Bill Cipher, imo, is the last TRULY great and epic Disney Villain. They've never topped him and I doubt they ever will. He was over the top, bombastic, insane, and sadistic! Not to mention literally the most powerful Disney villain ever.

[@alexandruulesan7009]

Topping Bill without literally breaking the laws of physics is not possible. You can see all those classic Disney Villain traits in him turned up to 11. Great performance, iconic design, sheer unapologetic joy in his villainy. All the others I listed came after him and seemed to try to emulate aspects of him

[@olleselin]

​@@alexandruulesan7009 IKR! DTVA villains are superiorly better than the modern film ones

[@ExtremeWreck]

In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if some DTVA employees decide to just create their own studio entirely, breaking out of Disney's hands.

[@rhapsody2612]

They havnt made a good villain since King Candy. The villain from Big Hero 6 was decent but they havnt written a good villain since then

[@WolflaChan]

They should look back at their movies and analyze each villian that was an A to S tier cause of how great they were.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

What about Tamatoa? 🗿

[@blinkowarner3117]

@@skrappothemonster1436 Tamatoa was GREAT and had the potential to be as memorable as the old classic villains. He also was in the movie for about 5 minutes, did one musical number, and was out.

[@barbararab6390]

​@@blinkowarner3117 in his defense, he had a youtube channel to manage

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

I have to agree on this. Mabey they have made a good villain since then I can’t remember. But the point is, Disney doesn’t care about quality they’re too scared to frighten the two-year-olds. So they forgotten how to make a good movie

[@ERinna_05]

bring back villians like master frollo. I miss downright evil and deranged villians

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

You would like Valdashal; she is the villain-protagonist of my audiobook, you can find the first part on my channel.

[@SevenEllen]

I agree. Frollo was the bravest villain Disney has ever written. That film was so dark, remove the gargoyles, and you'd think it wasn't Disney.

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

@@SevenEllenFrollo is one of the inspirations behind Valdashal. Not the only inspiration but one source of inspiration.

[@d4red3v1l8]

Asha and Magnifico are so much better in the deleted scenes it’s annoying.

[@cjgamer6356]

I know

[@cjgamer6356]

Disney's Wish could have been the first Disney movie with a villain couple that could be Disney's version of Bonnie and Clyde but they scrapped that for no reason. That story wouldn't even scare the kids

[@DragonGoddess18]

Or the Disney version of Morticia and Gomez

[@js66613]

I mean, Disney never once scared me as a kid, so this is not a new experience for me. Spiderman was honestly more terrifying -- though I couldn't tell you why.

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@js66613 I agree honestly. Heck, not even Sonic.exe scared me as a kid & this was during its original days. Heck, I don't think even Pet Semetary scared me when I watched it.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

It was revealed by Amaya's voice actor that during auditions, Amaya was a villain and Magnifico was a good king. By callbacks months later, it was just Magnifico who was an evil king. This explains A LOT.

[@cjgamer6356]

Who is Amaya

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@cjgamer6356 Magnifico's wife.

[@cjgamer6356]

@@OpticalSorcerer Ohh 😯😮 okay

[@superfanmusicmaker]

And before that point, the original plan was to make them *both* evil and be Disney's first villain power couple. Which not only would have been way better, but also further shows why Amaya's role in the finished film makes absolutely no sense without it. This entire setup was clearly conceived with her being in on his scheme, so having Amaya say that she was somehow completely unaware of what he was really like - after what's implied to be literal _decades_ of being married to him - just makes her look like a dumbass. Or even worse, it suggests that she actually _was_ in on it all along, and only abandoned him to join the heroes when she didn't benefit from it anymore.

[@OpticalSorcerer]

@@superfanmusicmaker Actually, evil Amaya came BEFORE the villain couple idea.

[@theadaptationstationmaster]

0:12 I'd say Alice had a lot of personality. She was curious, imaginative, tried hard to be polite and friendly but found it hard when everyone was being the opposite.

[@phoenixshadow6633]

The music in this movie is frankly a crime. Then you realize they are pop writers with no experience in musical theater. That's not bad in and of, but they didn't know the plot of the movie. In contrast, the songwriters for Little Mermaid, Hunchback, Encanto, and basically every Disney movie with music in it knew the plot. In some cases, they actually changed the plot to fit the lyrics.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Didn't they use AI to write the songs?

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

@@MASTEROFEVIL nah

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@MASTEROFEVIL AI would've actually known more about the plot than the songwriters, so NOPE.

[@kalzium8857]

A good villain can salvage a bad story. Disney seems to be hesitant to use them, because they are "problematic" or whatever. A hero is only as good as the villain they overcome. I think often weaker movies have weak villains. They feel more like a strawman when the writers should play devils advocate.

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

The key is to make a villain simultaneously competent and memorable. Some villains are perfectly competent but are forgettable; whilst others are memorable for being incompetent (we are looking at you Gabriel Agreste and stormtroopers). In order for a villain to really work they must be a blend of fashion and function. Too many times people think that making villains not as wicked makes them better, but in truth you risk making them less memorable and less charismatic. The villain must fit the setting (you wouldn't put a Disney villain in The Walking Dead), serve a meaningful function in the plot, must be competent, and must be memorable. If these elements are absent, it will definitely hurt someones work. I am in the process of writing a villain whose primary ambitions are fulfilling all of her hedonistic vices and becoming a powerful witch; she is not morally ambiguous in the least but I am hoping she is going to be iconic.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

Hmm, so basically Tamatoa?

[@matityaloran9157]

Good luck with your story

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

@@matityaloran9157If you are interested, the first part is on my youtube channel right now. ; )

[@ReginaMacKenzie1994]

@@skrappothemonster1436I never saw Moana so I do not know. Like I said, so long as a villain is competent, memorable, setting-appropriate, and plot-relevant, a villain works and may even be the star (intentionally or not) of the feature they are in. If any of those four elements are lacking so too will the villain be lacking and so too will the art itself suffer from it.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

@kenivethrexxon5264 Well then yep, I guess that means Tamatoa was the last good Disney villain.

[@alexmouse5758]

I watched a documentary about the production of Wish, and one thing grabbed my attention: Magnifico started as a tyrannical king that wanted to devour wishes from everyone outside of Rosas and wanted to steal a star from the night sky to gain power to rule over them. While practicing imperialism over everyone else, he used propaganda to gain the support of his own kingdom , Rosas. But then Jennifer Lee and the other producers and directors got cold feet. They literally wanted to "Justify his actions to the audience". They didn't believe someone could be just greed and selfish with selfish and greedy motives, or that anyone could support an openly greedy and selfish leader. He then was rewritten to be a narcissistic king with a sad backstory that was corrupted by pride in the end. They described the film as his villain origin story. Disney as a company isn't scared of villains. We still have villains in other divisions of the company. The real reason why we don't have any good new villain from Disney Animation is because its creative leadership think they have to justify the existence of a villain to the audience.

[@js66613]

Disney used to have villains, now Disney *is* the villain. /j

[@ExtremeWreck]

@@js66613 They have been the villain for DECADES. It has become increasingly more obvious as time goes on.

[@riotkitty]

I think Disney has forgotten how to write in general, or rather is afraid to write actual villains who are actually evil. The new context with storyboards of the king and queen in Wish being an evil power couple that was cut and changed only brings credence to this theory that’s been in the back of my mind.

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

Encanto was released 2 years ago

[@matityaloran9157]

@@Simbala-bq5vy Encanto doesn’t have a villain

[@Simbala-bq5vy]

@@matityaloran9157 I meant the part "how to write in general"

[@matityaloran9157]

@@Simbala-bq5vy Fair

[@taliagmail.com2005]

​@@Simbala-bq5vy3 years ago 2021 is now 3 years ago

[@InksDoesArts]

2:43 honestly as much as we like to hate on the dark ages, they genuinely had some great villains, the highlight for me is Ratigan from The Great Mouse Detective who is just amazing. He is very entertaining, he moves the story along AND his rivalry with the main character makes them both more interesting as a result. Like the lack of his mention kinda sucks for this reason alone because I genuinely believe that the relationship he has with Basil is the best hero- villain dynamic in any Disney film lmao

[@cherrylimeali4393]

Bro the opening scene of the Great Mouse Detective scared the fook out of me as a kid.

[@blinkowarner3117]

Not to mention The Horned King. Yes, I know The Black Cauldron is the Disney movie they pretend doesn't exist, but that dude was friggin horrifying.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

I don't think I'd group Moana in with the movies that don't have a real, compelling villain. Moana has Tamatoa, who's literally the best character in fiction.

[@inkonsistency]

Its kind of weird that disney doesnt bring back villains. Like they even have a "Disney villains" brand like they do for the "disney princesses" lots of people still want to dress as Ursula or Maleficent for Halloween. So why don't they want to add more options? Its like they dont remember how to make villains. But like, who would want to dress up as the sheep lady from zootopia? Its kind of not the same effect as Ursula, Maleficent, Gaston, Scar, Frollo, Jafar, etc. Like these villains have presence and presentation compared to modern villains...

[@skrappothemonster1436]

Tamatoa was the last good Disney villain, and he was just a *miniboss.*

[@awsomerebel55]

I'm gonna be honest here, the latest 'movie' villains Disney has made have been pretty bland to bad. But their cartoon villains have done justice to the villains of the past. Look at Bill Cipher, Lord Dominator, The Core, King Andrias, heck, Belos. All of these villains are incredible and they bounce off the heroes in ways that makes you want to hate them. Bill wanted to reach the material world and unleash chaos and was willing to make deals and trick people into doing what he wanted, playing on their deepest and darkest desires to his advantage. Lord Dominator bounced off Wander and the other heroes so well because she is such a legit threat but isn't serious all the time, instead she just loves being the bad girl of the story and when she wins she is bored. Magnifico doesn't really have that much in terms of what he does is considered evil or understandable. The movies just have to pick up on what the cartoons have been putting out.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

Tamatoa was the last good Disney villain, and he was just a *miniboss.*

[@kamarismith9422]

Disney recently failing to write good villains is exactly why people loved Jack Horner so much. He felt like a throwback to classic Disney villains with how comically evil and entertaining he was.

[@hissy3325]

Jack Horner is honestly better than Velvet and Veneer.

[@js66613]

I won't lie, I didn't care for Jack Horner. Death stole the show, if only because I like a force of nature villain - the likes of Rattlesnake Jake or, arguably, even Pitch Black - and to me, Jack Horner was weirdly... corny (?) (Or maybe overdone?) as a villain.

[@taliagmail.com2005]

that's by dreamworks not disney

[@DORAisD34D]

Encanto having a villain would have ruined the movie

[@MissJJoan]

For me Magnifico wasn’t evil enough. Easy way to make him a better villain: 1. Magnifico creates that rent-free wish granting system of the original. 2. He sells the kept wishes as data to the nearby kingdom of Cambridge Analytica without people’s permission.

[@yep1486]

or just make him so strict people he will stop people from seeking to grant their wishes themselves, like he remain meaning good but by the end is though to let go and instead of his magic being a short cut, it'd be at most a push towards letting people work towards what they wish for

[@queendsheena1]

I agree. Disney needs better villains in their movies. Along with less studio intervention (Wish's original concept was so much better than the movie we got) and better writing.

[@annien.1727]

They'll write good villains again once I get a job at Disney. I'll create compelling stories with villains that are so terrible you can't deny they're brilliant!😉

[@skrappothemonster1436]

Until the higher ups change your story because they don't like it.

[@ziggyzoo9335]

So many people actually love some of the villains more than the heroes (Hades being the best example) - if that doesn’t tell you how much enjoyment people get out of villains in stories then I don’t know what will

[@mxka-b5m]

Ikr?? It's always the villains that are somehow the favorites

[@ExtremeWreck]

Exactly. Heck, in some cases the villains are like the ONLY tolerable characters in a piece of media(The Woolies from Bubsy for example).

[@fataleflare]

I wish you would have talked about Professor Ratigan. We need more Disney villains that play off of the protagonist super well to the point that they are obsessed with our doing one another.

[@TheYoky01]

Magnifico is not a lame villain, he’s a hero done dirty.

[@DragonGoddess18]

Yeah. He's a bad villain because he is not a villain

[@suenicole8979]

Not gonna lie, I was expecting Magnifico to be something of the ultimate combination of villains like Jafar, Evil Queen, Hades, Ursula, Mother Gothel, Frollo, Scar, Captain Hook, Clayton, Dr. Facilier and all those iconic villains which would have made him like the Grand Master of Villainy and the one who wrote the book on being a villain. However, Magnifico seems more like a frustrated dad with lots of ego and issues who's trying to teach his kid a life lesson instead of being the main villain. Actually, with how the story went, it made it seem like Asha was the bad guy for wanting all wishes to be granted even though not all wishes would have good intentions while Magnifico is trying to get her to understand that not all wishes are supposed to be granted which just confuses the characters' roles as Asha is supposed to be the protagonist and Magnifico the antagonist but how it's portrayed is mixing it up.

[@superfanmusicmaker]

The earlier drafts and deleted scenes actually do show Magnifico (along with his Queen, who was also a villain) as a corrupt merciless tyrant, which not only would have made him way more enjoyable to watch, but also made Asha and the other characters way more justified in working to bring him down. But the final product tones him down so much that he just comes off as a fairly decent guy with a lot of tough choices. So instead of being a brave, selfless revolutionary, Asha just comes off as an entitled brat who didn't great special treatment and stole his job over it.

[@DragonGoddess18]

Plus, Asha having the power to grant wishes makes her the good guy,in spite of the fact that Magnifico had that power It was basically a "It's only right when I do it" mentality

[@taliagmail.com2005]

also he has a lot of screen time so it kinda made him look more like another protagonist than a villain

[@bdariamihaela]

Disney really needs to look at their series villains better: The Core/Darcy has some twisted sense of superiority but it's unapologeticly evil, Andreas, he gets his redemption at the end but he still did a lot of shit, Belos, he thought he was the good guy, he was intoctrinated as a kid and his only fault was not listeing to his brother diving deeper and deeper into his beliefs, and other show like Avatar legend of Korra, Zaheer considered the best villain of this whole franchise resorted to anything to reach his goals that he thought would be the best for the world. Motivation doesn't equal redemption

[@NedIsForever]

Bill cipher is also great, although he has no real motivation known now (although that may change when the book of bill comes out)

[@lavaninja1042]

I will say belos was souped to be tragic villain but no one cared I think and zaheer was not redeemed I think he just made peace and accepted his ideals consequences.

[@owenharrison761]

Something that Korra was always better than TLOA was the villains and their ideologies, I wish the development of each arc had been just as good 😅

[@DORAisD34D]

Alos Iwaju

[@bdariamihaela]

@@NedIsForever Bill deffinetly has a mothivation: Chaos

[@EonTheAien]

I clicked on this expecting some teardown of wish but I'm halfway through the video, and so far this is actually an amazing primer on Disney villains and what makes them amazing. Great video.

[@sparxstreak02]

3:53 Uh, I think that’s Atlantica Lol

[@maverickhanecak1682]

If Disney’s ghost were here, he’d remind us.

[@mintyaquagreen1675]

And just the other day you were saying how good this movie was.

[@TheSpawnfan]

Meanwhile at Dreamworks we have Big Jack Horner, a real psychopath that still manages to entertain by being completely unapologetic about how evil he is, not even the cuteness stare works on him because he's "dead inside"

[@kaekaesam6240]

Disney goes back to return to form and then after the villain dies they give them a statue in their honor(witch honestly I hope never happens! o wait, :|)

[@karamixon5815]

Fandom needs Disney's in the BIG SEEN! In Disney's TV VILLAINS, they whipped the butt. Toffee (Star vs. the forces of evil) Bill ( Gravity falls) Philp (The Owl House) Chuckle the evil silly piggy ( Dave the Barbadian) Shego ( Kim possible) The Core

[@moon7shinev150]

At first I was saying that the worst thing Magnifico did was keep the wishes instead of giving them back but then I realized that the people knowingly gave up their wishes to Magnifico knowing that they ain't getting them back unless they get their wishes granted so really the worsy thing he did was get possessed

[@magdam1508]

And he got posessed because his kingdom was threathened, so honestly, even that is not that bad. It is bad, but honestly I can't see how he's the bad guy.

[@prowolf633]

Hopefully someday soon Disney will regain their knowledge of how to write villains again and then give both movies with new classic villains for their lineup AND movies without them (which they should’ve been doing this whole time!)

[@IJ24676]

19 MINUTES AGO WOAAAHHH and yes they haven't made a good villain since wreck it ralph. turbo was great

[@skrappothemonster1436]

*Cough Cough* Tamatoa *Cough Cough*

[@OneandonlyFaye-bb7dx]

Now these days, Disney is too scared to frighten the two-year-olds, that they forgotten how to make a good film. Maybe some of you would disagree with me on that regard that they haven’t made any extraordinarily good villains as of late, But since they’re so scared to frighten kids with movies that are engaging, they make their movies and no central story. Wish was just one of the examples that Disney has lost their touch. They only care about how much money the film is making them(and most of the time their new films have been bombing so they haven’t gotten any money anyway!). There too scared to upset people and they’re too scared to make creative decisions so they turn to making bland dialogue and songs that have no rhythm

[@forrestdupre87]

Keep in mind Most Disney movies came from books with the villain already in the story.

[@taliagmail.com2005]

those were fairytale by hans Christians moana encanto and wish are definitely original disney movies

[@forrestdupre87]

@@taliagmail.com2005 I was referring to the Silver age( 1950-1967)

[@forrestdupre87]

@@taliagmail.com2005 I was referring to the ones from Walt’s time.

[@saritasteel3178]

I just hope that in the movie of Shrek 5, once Disney buys DreamWorks, all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses appear, especially the most important character in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea, Melody, The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, with her best friends Tip, Dash, Kiera and Catalina, and besides, they will be the new main characters of the movie of Shrek 5 so that they help Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Dulcinea, The Three Diablos, Goldilocks, The Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and The Others to defeat Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks, as Queen Grimhilde, Lady Tremaine, Maleficent, Marina del Rey, Ursula, Gaston LeGume, Jafar, John Ratcliffe, Shan Yu, Dr. Facilier, Zhan Tiri, Judge Claude Frollo, Mother Gothel, Tamatoa, Kakamora, Drago Bludvist, Grimmel The Grisly, Mor'du, King Runeard, Prince Hans, Pitch Black, The Druun, The Soldiers, Dr. Zara, Queen Nerissa, King Magnifico, Morgana, Evil Rapunzel and Drizella Tremaine, and to prevent Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks from ruling and destroying all The Multiverse Forever, especially The Kingdom of Far Far Away, Shrek along with his wife named Princess Fiona will need help from their new friends which are all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses, as Prince Florian, Princess Snow White, Prince Charming, Princess Cinderella, The Baker, Anastasia Tremaine, Prince Philip, Princess Aurora, Prince Eric, Princess Ariel, Prince Adam, Princess Belle, Prince Aladdin, Princess Jasmine, Prince John Smith, Princess Pocahontas, Prince Li Shang, Princess Fa Mulan, Prince Naveen, Princess Tiana, Prince Flynn Rider, Princess Rapunzel, Varian, Cassandra, Maui, Queen Moana Waialiki, Hiccup Haddock, Princess Merida, Kristoff Bjorgman, Queen Anna, Jack Frost, Princess Elsa, Jin, Yi, Connor, Ruby Gillman, Starboy, Princess Asha, Mateo, Queen Elena, Prince Desmond, Princess Amber, Prince James, Princess Isabel, Prince Hugo, Princess Sofia, The Futuristic Four, Princess Raya, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Namaari, The Other Six Princesses of The Kingdom of Atlantica and Melody, but actually, Melody is The First and Only that she is not a True Official Disney Princess, because Melody made her debut in the movie of The Little Mermaid 2: Return to the Sea and it is also because she is The First and Only Daughter of an Official Disney Princess, but Shrek, Princess Fiona, Donkey, Dragon, Puss in Boots, Kitty Softpaws, Perrito, Dulcinea, The Three Diablos, Goldilocks, The Three Bears, Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany, King Artie, Princess Guinevere, The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and The Others also need Melody's help to protect and save all The Multiverse, especially Their Kingdom of Far Far Away away from Rumpelstiltskin, Death, all The Official Villains of Disney and all The Official Villains of DreamWorks, because Melody is The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, but also The Death of Queen Lillian, because since her husband named King Harold passed away in the movie of Shrek 3, she has felt heartbroken and that caused her own death in her Kingdom of Far Far Away, and all The Inhabitants of The Kingdom of Far Far Away are saddened by The Death of Queen Lillian, because now she is with her husband named King Harold in heaven, and now they have lost their queen, that means now The Kingdom of Far Far Away needs a new queen and King Artie said that his love interest, girlfriend, fiancée and former classmate from Worcestershire school called Princess Guinevere would be the one to be The New Queen of Far Far Away, so King Artie decided to return to his old school called Worcestershire along with Shrek, with his older cousin Princess Fiona, with Donkey, with Dragon, with Puss in Boots, with Kitty Softpaws, with Perrito, with Dulcinea, with The Three Diablos, with Goldilocks, with The Three Bears, with The Children of Shrek and Princess Fiona: Fergus, Farkle and Felicia, with The Children of Donkey and Dragon: Bananas, Parfait, Peanut, Eclair, Coco and Debbie and with the Others to meet again with their friends from their school who are actually Prince Lancelot, Princess Tiffany and his love interest, girlfriend and fiancée Princess Guinevere to take them back to his Kingdom of Far Far Away, and also The Romance of all The Official Disney Princes and all The Official Disney Princesses, especially The Romance of Maui and Queen Moana Waialiki, The Romance of Hiccup Haddock and Princess Merida, The Romance of Jack Frost and Princess Elsa, The Romance of Varian and Cassandra, The Romance of Starboy and Princess Asha, The Romance of Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany and The Romance of King Artie and Princess Guinevere, because I think that Maui will be Queen Moana Waialiki's love interest, boyfriend and fiancé, while Hiccup Haddock will be Princess Merida's love interest and boyfriend, Princess Tiffany will be Prince Lancelot's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée and Princess Guinevere will be King Artie's love interest, girlfriend and fiancée, because Queen Moana Waialiki is going to fall in love with Maui, Princess Merida is going to fall in love Hiccup Haddock, Princess Tiffany is going to fall in love with Prince Lancelot and Princess Guinevere is going to fall in love with King Artie, but they don't know how to tell them their feelings towards them and neither how to win their hearts, because every time Queen Moana Waialiki gets too close to Maui when it comes to true love, she gets very nervous with him, while which in the case of Princess Merida is also the same, because whenever Princess Merida gets too close to Hiccup Haddock when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous with him, in the case of Princess Tiffany it is also the same, because whenever Princess Tiffany gets too close to Prince Lancelot when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, and in the case of Princess Guinevere too, because every time Princess Guinevere gets too close to King Artie when it comes to true love, she also gets very nervous around him, but luckily for them, Princess Fiona will help Queen Moana Waialiki to win The Heart of Maui, also Princess Merida to win The Heart of Hiccup Haddock, also Princess Tiffany to win The Heart of Prince Lancelot and also Princess Guinevere to win The Heart of King Artie, and I also want that Jack Frost will be Princess Elsa's love interest and boyfriend and Varian will be Cassandra's love interest and boyfriend, because Jack Frost leaves fall in love with Princess Elsa, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Jack Frost gets too close to Princess Elsa when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, because Varian leaves fall in love with Cassandra, but he doesn't know how to tell her his feelings and how to win her heart, because every time Varian gets too close to Cassandra when it comes to true love, he gets very nervous with her, but fortunately for they, Shrek will help Jack Frost to win The Heart of Princess Elsa and also Varian to win The Heart of Cassandra, except Goldilocks, Namaari, Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, because now they will be The Only Official Disney Princesses who do not need to have love interests and who can remain single forever, and also the same for Melody, The Daughter of Prince Eric and Princess Ariel, because like her new adoptive aunts Goldilocks, Namaari, Princess Raya and Princess Mirabel Madrigal, she doesn't need a love interest either, but also The Rivalry of King Artie and Queen Anna because they both want to compete in a challenge to see who is The Best Ruler of a Kingdom, because both want to do what is best for Their Own Kingdom, because King Artie wants to do the best for his Kingdom of Far Far Away because now he is The New King of Far Far Away and Queen Anna wants to do the best for her Kingdom of Arendelle because now she is The New Queen of Arendelle, but at the end, King Artie and Queen Anna become best friends in the world, because at the end, they both learned from their mistakes that they have made since their challenge to compete to see who is the best ruler of a Kingdom, and that at the end, King Artie and Princess Guinevere see their first true love kiss and that they become a romantic couple, just like Prince Lancelot and Princess Tiffany, and also that at the end of the movie of Shrek 5, Shrek becomes The New Leader of The Official Disney Princes and Maui, Hiccup Haddock, Kristoff Bjorgman, Jack Frost, Varian, Jin, Connor, The Baker, Starboy, Mateo, Prince Desmond, Prince James, Prince Hugo, Prince Lancelot and King Artie become The New Official Members of The Official Disney Princes, while Princess Fiona becomes The New Leader of The Official Disney Princesses and Queen Anna, Princess Elsa, Cassandra, Yi, Ruby Gillman, Anastasia Tremaine, Princess Asha, Queen Elena, Princess Amber, Princess Isabel, Princess Sofia, Goldilocks, Namaari, The Other Six Princesses of The Kingdom of Atlantica, Princess Mirabel Madrigal, Princess Tiffany and Princess Guinevere become The New Official Members of The Official Disney Princesses and that one day, Princess Tiffany will be The Wife of Prince Lancelot and that they have a family in the future, and that also Princess Guinevere is The Wife of King Artie, that they also have a family and that she becomes The New Queen of Far Far Away in The Future.

[@edgyelectrokinetic6761]

...What?

[@Mazanity]

Maybe Disney should notes from Hazbin Hotel. The villains are so good and the music!

[@js66613]

Agreed. Adam, Lute and the Vees were such fun antagonists to our protagonists, with fun designs, good songs and being unapologetically douchey.

[@Mazanity]

@@js66613 Adam song rocks and Lutes vocals are so good!!! 😊

[@edgyelectrokinetic6761]

If Disneys next movies took notes from Hazbin, they'd be a step up from what we have now, but I wouldn't call it *great*

[@crazyhairsinger]

​​@@edgyelectrokinetic6761 The sole fact they'd be more mature would make them great already. We're getting brainrotted crap for braindead children as of recently.

[@henrymockingbird9645]

I kinda agree with on the fact king magnifico sucks as villain because they give him backstory and it trop by third act and they tried evil just to be evil you go with one or the other Disney used be great at making villains they made some greatest animated villains ever they suck doing just that

[@AnnStyle]

yes

[@Lotion_Lamp]

We need more supporting character deaths, and big fight scenes. It's fun to me 🤷🏿‍♀️

[@BlackClaw2]

The villain of the show Iwaju was really good.

[@ExtremeWreck]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if some behind-the-scenes drama going on at the main Disney studio causes more people to leave & thus the animation quality of their next animated movie would be more along the lines of Foodfight. And that is IF they make another one themselves because I feel like a fair bit of the people who work on these movies have seemingly given up at this point.

[@kevinvalentefunfilmsclub3484]

Just to be clear, not every story by a movie studio whether it’s animation or live action doesn’t always have to follow the hero-villain story arch. There are many Disney movies that doesn’t require a villain and it’s fine such as Bolt, Encanto, Ralph Breaks the Internet, or even Inside Out. Even other animated movie studios have a mix stories of hero-villain stories and non-hero-villain stories. So, in other words, Disney doesn’t have to always follow the hero-villain narrative formula since there are many Disney non-Disney movies that don’t follow that kind of formula. Non-Disney animated movies that don’t follow the trope.

[@shadethesharp]

No, but this is all so true

[@silvertrees6421]

They didn’t forget. They’re just purposefully choosing not to. The deleted scenes are all the proof you need.

[@DORAisD34D]

Encanto didn’t need a villain

[@amourtabb7859]

I think its funny that disney really seems to go through eras. Like they don't decide what kind of villain they'll make by the movie but whichever trope they've picked for the decade 😂

[@IloveElsaofArendelle]

I want Frozen 3 and 4 a powerful villain against Elsa and the Frozen gang

[@js66613]

I will say that twist villains - especially Disney twist villains - tend to suck in general. I am not surprised that Magnifico, who is technically one, also sucks. Also, making a villain irredeemably evil I believe came with other perks too - like cutting down runtime and having to squeeze in less character building/development because you didn't need to create sympathy for the villain or redeem them or to twist them into a villain or make them become a villain. And when you have an animated movie, that can make a huge difference in how long that'll take to animate. This is turn not only saves money, but ensures that if you suffer a loss, it's a lesser loss and also that you can then go onto making another movie sooner. It's not just fun to sometimes have them; it's practical too. Because it takes time to build up complex characters -- sometimes multiple movies or a series -- so it can be easier just having them being blackhearted and pure evil. The other alternative, I think, is making them a force of nature villain. But with sympathetic villains and twist villains, as well as villains that spiral into villainy, I'd argue you need more screentime than most family movies can afford, because it is doubtful that most kids will sit through 3 hour movie, and even then, that can still feel like not enough. Outside of modern remakes that actively turn villains into, well, non-villains, really (like Cruella or Maleficent), there aren't really many examples of movies going for complex character depictions, especially when it comes to villains, and the aforementioned examples, aren't, even really villains anymore. Maybe there's Joker, but like, he's not so much complex, as an unpredictable mystery, and any sympathy or complexity added to him was still added through multiple adaptations and not just one, so again... Also, in doing so, you'll probably find yourself sacrificing screentime for the main character's/protagonists development, which is not something creators tend to be willing to sacrifice. Even some of my favourite villains that have potential to be complex, never ended up being all that in execution, or at least not in such a way where it came across like so to most of the audience. If you're gonna do a movie with villains that are twist villains or complex characters, or something else, unless you're truly out to make a franchise, you're 90% likely to be setting yourself up for failure, far as I'm concerned. Or you make a series -- that's an option that I think creators should look into if they want to make something grander. Especially if it's Disney. On the other hand, if they genuinely want to make their good old fashioned villains, they should go for it, and make a movie that actually has a good old fashioned villain. Not Hans, or the Big Hero 6 villain, or Magnifico. Oh, and, a story clearly doesn't *need* a tangible, full-force villain to do well - Frozen, Encanto and Moana are obvious examples of this - but if you're gonna include a villain that is supposed to be a focus in the story (which, arguably, I mean, the twist villainy of Hans suggested that it was meant to be a focus, but it failed in execution, so while popular, it wasn't exactly well-written, imo - but if you're gonna have a full on villain, then OWN it.

[@martijnklaassen3536]

The King is not the villain. He grands wishes and the people live there for free. The main character who's name I forgot doesn't agree with the King for not granting every wish. But like... you can't give everyone always what they want. The King is NOT in the wrong here... to fix this the writers made him a psychopath...🙄

[@DragonGoddess18]

Plus, there are wishes that have bad after effects For example: "I wish it was sunny every day" could mean that the sun never sets again,which could mean "Midnight sun" (real thing), or it never rains again so the fresh water evaporates and crops die out.

[@taliagmail.com2005]

exactly those people are spoiled who think they can always get what they want

[@cocopuffs1234]

To be fully honest disney hasnt had a good princess or family film since Ralph breacks the internet because its just all been super sanitized and made strictly for kids and not even 7-10 year olds its all just been for toddlers and its kinda hard to say when disney will come out of this phase but something that will help them today is if that make a new disney princess movie and not one were she's "QUWERKY" or "BUBBLEY" or any of that. If they make another movie they have to make her story to be based off an ACCUAL fairytale and the one fairytale disney hasnt toached is Swan Lake, disney can make the princess be a combenation of Pocahontas Mulan Aurora Cinderella and a bit of Snow White. BUT ABOVE ALL SHE HAS TO HAVE A LOVE INTREST, A REAL VILAN AND SHE CANT BE ADORKIBLE! im sorry for any misspellings

[@LauraM96829]

It would’ve been way cooler to have Magnifico’s wife also be evil. Especially since in the concept art, they look like Xanatos and Fox from Gargoyles, the original Disney villain power couple. Also the lack of any concrete goal or endgame for him. He really only starts acting evil after Asha steals the wishes, making me feel like she is responsible for most of the problems in that movie. Especially since the people of Rosas were perfectly content without their wishes, so her quest lacked any real urgency. Imagine if to make Magnifico more evil, he and his wife were using magical illusions to make the people think they were in constant danger from monsters. So Magnifico needed to drain the power of wishes in order to be strong enough to protect them all. The people are in a constant state of misery and heartbreak without their wishes, but to them it’s worth it. After all, what good are hopes and dreams if you’re dead. And if you want to shove in more callbacks to past movies, you can him battle illusions of Chernabog or Maleficent dragon. And after each battle he tells the people he needs more wishes to “keep them safe”. I don’t know, just something to make him more obviously evil rather than him have the more reasonable motive of not wanting to grant wishes without considering long term consequences.

[@Joshua-ud8zl]

To keep it short as I can. The present-day Disney falls short of the standards set by its past. The portrayal of its heroes and villains is simplistic, and the "misunderstood villains" concept is a mere ploy. It is disappointing to ascertain that the current management of Disney has veered off from the values upheld by the previous administration. Race-swapping is also a notable concern that cannot be ignored. It is crucial for established organizations to recognize that today's children are more proficient than ever, equipped to handle the darker themes that were once ubiquitous in Disney's 90s films.

[@thegoatriderfromthesands2646]

A.I. makes the movies now. I've learned to expect nothing even decent of Disney. They'd have to actually try really hard to get me back. I used to think that their films were so punk. So anti-establishment. So unique. So fun. JUST SO THE BEST I EVER HAD!!!

[@lineliebst7661]

I wish they could go back and cook up villians like they used to, because as a child villians were the last test for the hero to get their happy ending or prove themselfs and for adults villians are funny versions of desires or goals we can node along to. But i think disney can't cook them up anymore, in the sense of (parten my frence so to speak) they dont have the b*lls to steam on ahead with that kind of idear today like they could back then. Its all watered down today, has to include everyone, only be skindeep instead of fokusing on the whole charater, rewrite history and so on and on. Its like they are tiptooing around instead of taking a solid theme and going the full mile, magnifico is a good exsample of in disneys case to pick a lane and stick with it instead of this two sides clash, that dont mix well, either he is "evil evil" or he is the "evil because i thought it was the right way" no mixing the two.

[@jknetwork6211]

Speaking of musicals have you watched hazbin hotel? I’m curious on what your thoughts on that will be

[@douglaspope-gz1eq]

Honestly I'm just disappointed at this point

[@jeremy1860]

While I generally agree that Disney aren't as good as they used to be with their baddies, I have seen examples in more recent years that they haven't completely lost their touch. Characters like King Candy are those you love to hate, and villains like Tamatoa, while certainly brief, were lots of fun 😊

[@alexandru5369]

Fact is, Magnifco was never a villain his rational is completely sound in giving everyone their wish leads too chaos and debauchery. His goofy song made him even more sympathetic as his Kingdom turning on him showed how ungrateful they are

[@jamestolbert1856]

What if Asha was the main villain and the king was the good guy. Think about it. She finds keeping the wishes to himself and acts as a revolutionary figure and is slowly being corrupted by her power

[@Deka-Kaizer]

I think we can all learn a thing or two from Lair of Voltaire’s King of Villains.

[@BadGuyRants]

For a modern more cynical audience a character like Snow White isn’t going to hold up. She was more of a symbol of hope and survival for a group of adults that just suffered through the Great Depression. The Queen was symbolic of self destruction and the path we shouldn’t go down.

[@panzamarco3205]

Million dollar question: is it King Magnifico or The Chameleon better characterized?

[@majormccoy2659]

Disney has just lost it's mojo. They have forgotten how to write villains, plots, and some of the messages they have put in some of their movies have been bad.

[@redfox555]

Disney has forgotten how to write good anything....

[@Buy.YT.Views.677]

Your positive energy is exactly what the internet needs. Thanks for making a difference!

[@kaekaesam6240]

9:26 thats the same queen design from (Nimona)! HELLO!?!?

[@forrestdupre87]

You should read the books that inspired these movies.

[@Joshua-ud8zl]

After careful consideration, I have come to the conclusion that Disney's current productions are significantly less engaging than their previous works. They tend to create characters that are one-dimensional, portraying heroes and villains in a way that doesn't reflect the complexity of real-life situations. The concept of "misunderstood villains" that Disney often uses is a shallow attempt to add depth to their characters without actually fleshing them out. Through my research, I have discovered that the current management at Disney has a different perspective than their predecessors, which may be why there is such a stark contrast in the quality of their content. Additionally, the recent trend of race-swapping in Disney productions is a cause for concern. While diversity is an essential component of any modern story, it should be approached with care and sensitivity. Unfortunately, Disney seems to be using race-swapping as a way to check a box rather than an opportunity to create more authentic, diverse characters. Nonetheless, I believe that children are smarter than ever before, and they can handle darker themes that were once commonplace in Disney's 90s films. It is essential for Disney to recognize that kids today are more capable of understanding complex narratives and nuanced characters than they were in the past. In conclusion, I am hopeful that Disney will listen to its audience and take steps to improve the quality of their productions. By creating characters that are multi-dimensional and reflecting the diversity of our world in a meaningful way, Disney has the potential to inspire generations of viewers to come.

[@shawnaisme226]

I wanted so badly to like Wish more than I did. I mean, this movie was meant to celebrate the 100th anniversary of Disney. Not only that, it was the origin story of the whimsical "When You Wish Upon A Star, Makes No Difference Who You Are" mantra. It could have been much better. That having been said, King Magnifico reminds me of another tantrum-throwing royal villain from this cartoon I used to watch on YTV when I was little. Especially when it comes to the moments they each get their comeuppance. King Magnifico, when trapped inside of his own scepter: No. No Amaya. NOT THE DUNGEON! IT SMELLS SO BAD DOWN THERE!!! Prince Lazuli from Rupert upon hearing he will be sentenced to hard labour in the mines of the Crystal Kingdom: BUT I DON'T LOOK GOOD IN OVERALLS!!! Both are lame.

[@d4red3v1l8]

I enjoyed strange world, not every film has to have a villain.

[@SevenEllen]

A movie is only as good as it's villain.

[@brandongreene6175]

To be honest, I still think Disney does great villains even for today. I thought King Magnifico to me is an okay villain. He's not a great villain, but he is cool to watch. Again that's just my opinion.

[@sasha1mama]

Well see, the thing is, King Mag might actually be the based one, insofar as I've heard.

[@MrLightningLord143]

5th, btw love your vids

[@kaekaesam6240]

Honestly I want more love/action stories like (Elemental) and (Zootopia) or video game/action movies from Disney they did so good with og (Wreck IIt Ralph)!

[@shanevinzant6935]

He also sucks because he made the skip ad button vanish 😂😂😂

[@SPAnComCat]

IMO; Judge Frollo is THE BEST Villain! Because he is so Realistic!

[@Firefox-jz3hs]

Can you do a review of jujutsu kaisen?

[@maxleroux]

If you're looking for well-written, irredeemable Disney villains, look no further than Emperor Belos from The Owl House. I'll never forgive Disney for screwing over their best show.

[@griffysfnafchannel]

Disney has forgotten how to be successful.

[@Dmgladiator2642]

I know you did not diss King John he belongs with the greats

[@blinkowarner3117]

I do love Robin Hood very much. But King John was kind of a whiny cry baby. He wasn't really the great Disney villain of that movie. The Sheriff of Nottingham was

[@MrLightningLord143]

5th comment, btw love your vids

[@callmethecommentcountess9329]

I had to agree if you

[@genshinimpact7794]

Korean comic explains wish problem really good

[@plushmakerfan8444]

Prince Hans suck tho…

[@WolflaChan]

If only we had Anna as a twist villian in Frozen, and instead of being frozen completely, she could've somehow conquered the magic from her heart and use it to battle Elsa in some way as a form of betrayel or revenge for all the times she had been shut out.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

100%

[@taliagmail.com2005]

prince hans is a fucking narrcist at least long magnifico didn't pretend to love the protagonist

[@js66613]

As a twist villain, yes, yes, he sucks. He could've been reasonably solid if they didn't try to force a villain reveal. But no, they just couldn't go without.

[@darkjaguar789]

I don’t know about you, but I don’t remember a single truly interesting villain from classic Disney cartoons.

[@BadGuyRants]

It’s kinda of mind boggling how hard nostalgia for 90s Disney has duped an entire generation.

[@octolia2024]

Cruella's a good villain!

[@ionasappy2732]

I wonder if htese new villains from Disney are either a result of writers either attempting to make the villains bland to avoid being accused of promoting "queer-coded" homophobia, or a lot of new artists and writers growing up wacthing anime and Studio Ghibli and arrogantly thinking they can copy Miyazaki's more nuanced style of storytelling. Disney and anime do things very very differently, but I don't feel Disney can ever be as nuanced or mature in its themes like anime.

[@CxN-xs6ls]

🦜

[@movies798]

In my opinion, Doctor Faciler, from The Princess and the Frog, is the last great villain in the Disney Animated Canon films in a while.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

*Tamatoa has left the chat:*

[@movies798]

@@skrappothemonster1436 Who?

[@hadassah.2010]

First comment!!

[@aaronyang64dragonproductio88]

The song is so bad I prefer peaches

[@Hughesy313-f1y]

First