Disney's New Star Wars Films: Controversy and Apathy

A new Rey film, with a director keen on feminist themes, and a Mandalorian and Grogu film.

[@robertpaul50n]

Artax did nothing wrong

[@JustAboutTime]

Artax was a quitter. 😂

[@brandonscott5544]

STAR 🌟 WARS OPENING GARBAGE 📦📦📦🗑🗝 DISASTER.

[@Soup-man]

"Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects." -Darth Traya

[@chasehedges6775]

Kreia is awesome

[@Soup-man]

​@@chasehedges6775 I've heard so, I can't wait to play that one. I just played the first one, and I've heard Kotor 2 is even better.

[@Samaritan38]

​@@chasehedges6775Kreia is cool, although she's an hypocrite though.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Samaritan38 Yep

[@turkN9NE]

such a great game

[@captaindan3456]

"I enjoy making men uncomfortable".... I'm pretty sure she just played that clip at Kathleen Kennedy's job interview and was instantly hired.

[@richardscathouse]

Making anything with eyes uncomfortable 🤮🤮🤮

[@Snowboardjedi892]

It’s about time we had a Gungan director to shape the galaxy.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

Shar-Shar Obid: "Mee-sa presenting to yousa, with great great joy... Poopy - A star wars story!"

[@Snowboardjedi892]

@@MariaIsabellaZNN very well said!

[@deeesher]

"Time we had a woman come forward to shape a story in a galaxy far far away". Well, sure other than: Marcia Lucas Leigh Brackett (screenwriter ESB) Katie Lucas (writer/director of many Clone Wars episodes) Bryce Dallas Howard Deborah Chow Carrie Fisher (as script doctor) Patty Jenkins... Oh wait nevermind And sure Kathleen Kennedy I guess too. But other than those, plus the hundreds (thousands?) of other women involved in the production of the franchise, fiiiinally, we have one. I'd love to hear her say in an interview that she grew up on Star Wars, and regularly watched the movies and tv shows, and always dreamed of being involved. Then I'd be willing to see what she can do. But as someone who has no experience with making blockbuster movies, she'll have no idea what is really involved. Like most of us. At that point, gender really doesn't matter much.

[@jonathanyaloussa]

Please don't forget former Harvey Weinstein's secretary turned director Leslye Headland, you istophobe!

[@ineffable0ne]

Unless you're talking about making humans rather than films, gender really NEVER matters much. Or, at least, it shouldn't...

[@sabatheus]

Rest in peace, Star Wars. You used to be so great.

[@michaelhixson6939]

Star Wars has gone from the cultural Icon of the Western Mythological Hero's Journey to a dumpster fire of indolent, pretentious, post-modern, undergraduate film-school project.

[@BixRibene]

I mean it's not like The Original Trilogy no longer exists...Well I mean the superior version that Lucas gave us in 1997, then again a bit better in 2004... Yes Jabba HAD to be there in person and could not have been a hologram, right?

[@WantonMyth]

Yep. Kathleen has infected the franchise with her agenda of libtard wokeness

[@alexeysavelyev]

@@BixRibeneoh hey good point, that alone makes original trilogy garbage. nice

[@Paidonthedaily]

It has not, yall need to stop. Its not that bad.

[@michaelhixson6939]

@@Paidonthedaily "Not that bad". Meaning that at some level you do agree that it has dropped in quality. Was it the CGI over practical? Was it lack of archetypal characters? Was it the breeching Star Wars fantasy tropes for science-fiction tropes like the Holdo Maneuver and Hyperspace Fuel? Maybe you noticed how they stopped making movies to make "TV Shows" that neither airs on TV, nor follows an episodic structure that resembles a 'show'. Maybe none of that matters to you, because...you just like it when characters...Vader? Glow Red?

[@AshCosgrove]

I'm still not convinced this POS is going to actually be made. More Star Wars projects have been canned than have actually come out, how's this any different?

[@gregorysaugustine5236]

Because this year, Lucasfilm and Disney by extension are desperate for success, any success. Their boards members are getting replaced and so the activist investor will get more power to dictate the direction of the company. Iger, Feige and KK needed to release any product they can to show that they're still productive. And that's why I will have no doubt that the quality will suffer even more.

[@Baulderstone1]

It is suspicious that they rapidly announced this in response to backlash the Rey movie is getting. It feels like an attempt to change the subject.

[@TheNefastor]

​@@gregorysaugustine5236If they were actually desperate for actual success they'd make the sort of movie the fans want to see. They wouldn't keep going in the direction that everyone clearly hates. Unless they are desperate _and_ stupid, of course.

[@chpsilva]

At this point I *want* they keep doubling down, it's like watching a slow-mo train wreck in 4K. /popcorn

[@Goldenspiderducck]

The identity thing is a smokescreen. Don’t fall for it. Disney/Marvel is doing the same thing they’ve done for the last decade or so - 1. Find an auteur director with a few artistic successes. 2. Use their name for clout. 3. Behind the scenes, exploit their relative inexperience to bully or flatter them into submission to the corporate mission. 4. Churn out the same pre-made, generic, bland, corporate product that can be loosely called a “film”. 5. Rinse, repeat.

[@YouSuprised]

No it is called social engineering, the spread of the Marxist cultural agenda, the demoralization of western audiences and the blatant falsification of European lore, culture, mythology, legends and fantasy.

[@sciencefaction2646]

This is one of the most accurate statements I’ve ever read.

[@tedflips1501]

Worse, now that committee driven drub is not self aware.

[@marcmarc1967]

I watched (painfully) the full uncut 43 minute panel where she made the quote "I enjoy making men uncomfortable". She was NOT referring directly to the men in the film, and it was not really taken out of context. It was referring to any men watching her films and seeing things about themselves that they may not have otherwise seen, and getting uncomfortable about it. There seems to be an almost reverse gaslighting about that quote, where she's given a pass because it's "out of context". It's not.

[@WebOSDevelops]

Losing 55% of an audience, not the most financially thought out decision as a film maker in my opinion…

[@GenJuhru]

And she's handpicked obviously for competence...

[@autisticlegionnaire3624]

Making men feel disinterested would be more accurate. She's going to need more than a few interested women to fill the empty seats. I hope for her sake they exist.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

And I hope they don’t. For the lolz.

[@RandomYTCommenter]

"this will have a stoic guy in a mask of few words and a grogu" Brilliant!

[@lucymiau5700]

Every 6 month KK comes with "new" StarWars Movie projects that are forgotten faster than the "new" projects she announces.

[@backthatthingupyoyoy]

SHAH R is sadly mistaken. Not scared, not worried, just do not care. Listening and watching Shah speak on how to bully thru making a movie is like watching a Donkey talk about how it escapes its surroundings in the middle of the night just to amble around the neighborhood randomly gorging the way thru their gardens and flowerbeds. Eventually the donkey will be found out. That's when the torches and pitchforks come out to play; meaning when the time comes to buy OR NOT, tickets. I choose the OR NOT.

[@michaellanger5671]

I think Disney is doing a great job by providing YT channels with great content and in turn us with super Entertainment! And the best part is, it’s for free because it will be a cold day in hell before I go back to the movies for a Disney flick

[@balthazarasquith]

Got to love those Disney economics 😅

[@tudorstef5941]

Are u high ?

[@godmaentertainment4375]

Hollyweird over all is pretty bad bad bad, the whole industry is folding.

[@chasehedges6775]

Star Wars is a shattered shell.

[@jakeviolet2195]

I think it's about time we bring same male sensibilities to the reality TV show "The Batchelor." It's been going for 28 seasons and it's still following the same femcentric romance formula. Let's get some car chases and explosions in there!

[@sockhopsinger]

In honor of George lucas, we should not call this Disney iteration Lucasfilm, but give it a truer name and call it Mucusfilm.

[@agentsmith2378]

These women have ruined entertainment and thers still no accountability thy actually lean into ther nonsense as if ther ideas make money or happy customers.

[@SpectreStatus]

Only thing left to do is make fun of their content.

[@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775]

Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy wasn't supposed to be the first female director of SW, Patty Jenkins was, and there were hardly any complaints. Heck, her movie of Rogue Squadron might have been interesting, especially with it dealing from a pilot's point of view. Nope, canceled. Instead, they'll make an Episode 10 after the disaster of the recent trilogy. Disney doesn't care anymore. They're doing it on purpose.

[@KMort]

The thing that did surprise me was Ahsoka getting s2. It was objectively a financial failure.

[@ToeCutter0]

Has anyone heard Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy express a single independent thought on Star Wars? Just ONE will suffice? I’ve not heard her comment once on Star Wars, other than to say it’s about time a woman made a Star Wars film. Why is now the time? It’s farcical that Disney considers a *documentary* film maker capable of directing a film based entirely on fantasy, which is on the opposite end of the film making spectrum compared to documentary films, that literally document reality. 🤷‍♂️

[@asaptenebrae2240]

That's like having Andrew Tate directing the next Barbie movie 😂

[@killgriffinnow]

What we see happening in fandom today is actually part of a very ancient cycle. In most ancient cultures, they would set aside one part of the realm for one political group, and one realm for the opposite group. Then, they would have a third realm, set aside for nature, and this was considered the “realm for all”, to prevent tribal warfare from destroying the land. “Fandom” used to be this “realm for all”, where people from varying political isles could get together and agree to respect each other. That time has passed. The “realm for all” is no more: it has been bulldozed and mutilated by those who wish to claim it for their own political side. The result, of course, is that the land is doomed to be destroyed in a mindless, never ending tribal war.

[@avalond1193]

Outsiders, grifters and none fans have highjacked everything considered nerd culture and changes and tarnished it for political garbage

[@JoeyChilango]

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- attributed to Albert Einstein

[@advancedtheoreticalresearc6992]

When you die you feel nothing, you don't realise that you are dead, but it' hard for the rest. The same thing happens when you are stupid. Atrributed to Albert E8nstein as well.

[@PertinaxMaximus]

It's also the definition of stupid.

[@ZeopoZero]

The one thing that always makes me laugh at some of these female hero that are doing all this stuff on screen. Is that they will have perfect makeup on a lot of the time. Especially when they show Rey living in the desert all her life by herself. And she still has makeup.

[@richardscathouse]

That is annoying. Not as bad as trying to sell herself as a mechanic with those pristine hands 🤮

[@BIZARBIES]

Nobody anywhere is asking for a Rey movie, nor will they ever.

[@aragmarverilian8238]

"Nothing built by weaklings lasts."

[@olpossum5186]

pretty much every new announcement from disney: "your biopsy was positive"

[@sudimara7731]

Today's trend in the film industry was started as an inclusivity for underrepresented groups to borderline discriminatory for how hellbent they're on pushing this ideology. They pick and choose whoever they want based on gender and race, not their actual skill in the given field of work.

[@tglake2894]

What was old is new again, it has somehow become acceptable to screen actors, employees, etc. based on their race and their sex once again.

[@3Overhaus]

This is like watching Frasier Crane dissect Disney Star Wars.

[@vegasdutch]

It doesn't matter that she made her comment on men in a non-Star Wars setting. It matters because she is bringing this attitude to Star Wars with her.

[@Oliver.Verdant]

Disney hasn't realized they have more in common with the Empire than they do the Rebellion

[@tajklair]

I have never seen a more accurate video title

[@floydffrogfloydffrog7453]

Disney's new tagline: "Much Ado About No One Gives A Shit Anymore".

[@stephenvanderberg9084]

At this point kk should replace the johnny williams star wars theme with helen reddy's "i am woman".

[@LWVH81]

How much trash can they make?!

[@floydpepper8289]

Star Wars is finished as a brand. Lucas knew hed already milked it for every penny when he sold it.

[@MillywiggZ]

1:15 Wait, what’s that in the background? Computer, enhance!

[@willem1642]

Disney has taken on board the themes of the prequel trilogy, betrayal, and the rise of darkness.

[@theJFdragon]

"stygian" is a word I don't hear enough of. thankyou.

[@zeroman614]

Mando and Grogu get a food truck, serving the best Bantha Empanadas on Tatooine.

[@bobcharlotte8724]

I wonder how a documentary filmmaker directs actors

[@davidkwong3369]

You know I kind of saw this coming after the news of George Lucas selling Starwars!

[@vertigo2894]

I'm glad you are being honest about her comment and it's context.

[@chasehedges6775]

The Mandalorian S1 and s2 were great, tbh and it was well-made.

[@balthazarasquith]

So true, there was once a slight glimmer of hope with star wars where in reality that was just a death bounce lol

[@autisticlegionnaire3624]

@@balthazarasquith As soon as KK found out The Mandalorian was exhibiting potential signs of quality she submerged and drowned it in woke.

[@SpectreStatus]

Held my interest until real-world politics forced out a certain actor. That was before it exploded in woke confetti.

[@TheRagdollrejects]

“We’re going to do Rey’s Jedi academy, we didn’t do Luke’s because no one wanted to see that” - this genuinely could’ve been said in a board meeting.

[@theproplady]

After writing LOTR, Tolkien briefly considered writing a sequel series where another dark threat rose, and then decided not to go through with it. George Lucas should have done the same thing, ending the Star Wars story where justice and the Jedi had been restored. These weren't stories that needed continuations. These weren't like historical, real life epics taking place in messy worlds where happy endings don't happen. There's nothing wrong with liking that sort of thing, but LOTR and Star Wars exist in the realm of myth and theme. They exist to show watchers that evil is real, and that it can be defeated with friendship and determination. Unfortunately, we live in a world where stories are owned by big corporations who want to cash in on them, and/or use them as vehicles to promote their twisted political ideologies. The story of Star Wars is ultimately the story of how a culture went from venerating its heroes and passing on positive values, to a culture that elevated Victimhood and envy to supreme moral goods.

[@unclerukmer]

Years ago, probably around the time of The Force Awakens, Rich Evans made a comment that remains extremely relevant and few people seem to appreciate: "Star Wars is played out and there's nothing more to do with it." Yes, everything Star Wars in the Disney era is just pastiche and recycled garbage because LucasFilm is filled with talentless identify junky hacks who hire the same to make trash. But beneath that is the fact that the themes were explored and the were stories told in the Original Trilogy. Even a talented writer would struggle to come up with where to take the franchise creatively and thematically. Which is why you need a lot of extremely talented writers to try and crack that nut. But that would require hiring at least a few white men and you can't have that.

[@Deathsyth-ks8uz]

You could literally have threats from outside the galaxy coming in, or you could have the characters going to a different galaxy. Or get this, star wars galaxy has been slowly colliding with another and blah. Anything would be better than a Rey movie....

[@thepunchableface1506]

From 'A New Hope' to 'No Hope'.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

People that still don't believe Star Wars is dead must be the same kind of people who still think Elvis Presley is alive somewhere. Disney has killed and buried SW and now furiously stomps on the grave to prevent it from ever getting up again.

[@gnarlin4964]

Unlike Hotel Californa, I checked out of Star Wars years ago.

[@ryanrockers]

The Madalorian was always just Lone Wolf and cub in Star Wars costume. The movie will be fine I'm sure

[@henrikfisch]

I already deny to watch any Star-Wars-movie or -series ... no matter how hard Sharmeen Obdai-Chinoy is trying to make men uncomfortable. Please go ... you have my blessing.

[@umbrellacorp.]

1:24 You forgot to mention she doesn't have any experience in film making, she Never made a movie. She said herself in "It's a Gundam" channel. A well written script and you didn't research if she ever made any movies.

[@joern2842]

Star Wars are the Skywalkers. 💯❤ But Disney killed all the Skywalkers, down to the last real one - Kylo Ren. No Skywalkers - no Star Wars. It's just a fact. Everything else - Asoka, Mando, Finn, Rey, etc. - these are just fillers.

[@danelynch7171]

Oh wow. A creator that actually put that directors quote into context? Ok ... Im watching.

[@InvUnk]

this will be a overpriced trainwreck that proves once again that DIsney has no clue what the fans want. The worse of it is that this Mando movie is just going to be a way to age Grogu up and place him in the Rey movie its the only cash cow they have had and think people still care.

[@TrineofFire]

If she was such a strong woman, she would've stayed in Pakistan to help fight for something that actually matters. Women in the West have more rights than Men.

[@simcard027]

grogu has to be one of the stupidest overhyped characters of modern cinema

[@martinb2213]

Her qualifications = she ticks all the boxes that's it

[@philipmetts8831]

Space science fiction is supposed to be a commentary on what it would be like if we explored space. Maybe star wars doesen't qualify.

[@scottgun]

You are being way more lucid and thoughtful than I can about Disney Star Wars, which doesn't deserve lucid and thoughtful analysis but a rhetorical shotgun to the face. Favreau's Mando movie is Stage III Star Wars Grief: Bargaining. And Shareem blah blah's movie? That's just Disney telling everyone that they don't care about money, good art, or the audience. The movie instead will be a _ritual_ made to honor Disney's bizarre and insatiable gods.

[@robfut9954]

They’re killing off the entire franchise, a waste of future billions

[@grayfox6518]

We haven't had a single director come forward and try to tell an original story in good faith for the Star Wars universe. Anyone who has even remotely tried has been reeled in or fired. If it's not propaganda it's fanservice or base-level fanfiction and those are no good to the Star Wars universe either. Good Star Wars is invisible because when it works you never notice it.

[@guilhermeosti9526]

At this point we don't care anymore, Star Wars is Undead right now, just waiting for a headshot out of mercy. Katelyn Kennedy and these people live in a bubble, and Disney can't fire them because they're afraid of the backlash

[@mongohotline]

And you put her comments into perspective too. Good on you mate.

[@Dave_McKansas]

I have no feeling for either film. They won't, but they would need Cara Dune back and a team up with Greef Karga. Maybe even an Ahsoka appearance in that time line. Grogu needs to get blown up. Even with that it's a "hard sell" for me. Maybe when the disc comes out.

[@ChrisPierce-y1r]

And I bet she has never sat down and watched a single star wars....that's one of the problems no one they get to write or direct these films or shows loves ,has watched, and respects star wars what so ever

[@sethledford9612]

"Remember how everyone got mad that we ruined Luke's Jedi Order? What if we have Rey make a Jedi Order now after ruining the one thats supposed to exist? And since Rey stole Luke's name for absolutely no reason then itll stil be started by the Skywalker" "Oh thats a great idea." I imagine the meeting where this idea was putvhed went sometbing along those lines.

[@johnmoorefilm]

its so much worse: its about grotesque expectation-management- we’re all poised for a stomach-churning disaster, so watch the raves if it is barely competent.

[@thecloudtherapist]

In one word, its going to be a DISASTER and Favreu would have lost any crumbs of credibility left with the OG fans.

[@weswolever7477]

I was pretty much done after the original trilogy and the only reason I watched the prequels was because my friend said wanna go see a movie and had no interest in the sequels before any of them were out. So they can do whatever they from here on out. I don’t care

[@avatar6699]

She did not say "I like making the men who do evil things to women uncomfortable".. she said "men". Point taken.

[@Tomax_Bren]

If people don't like what Disney is doing to Star Wars, then don't watch any of it. Over time, they'll get the hint and either sell back to George (one can only hope) or start taking the Star Wars Universe serious. That will only happen if a majority jump on board, which I doubt will ever happen. Personally, I haven't watched or followed anything Disney has done since they removed the Expanded Universe from cannon, and I won't. They made me choose between the EU and whatever they come up with, I chose the EU.

[@richardscathouse]

Done and Done. I've moved on to Books and the occasional Anime. Never Dubs! 😢 Long ago.

[@BoomTribeEntertainment]

Star Wars has been completely dead to me for years now. It’s absolutely jarring to have watched what was formerly the greatest film series ever get turned into a lolcow propaganda machine.

[@AlternicityBlogspot]

If they turn her (Rey) into a dictating bad guy, then have the mandoverse be the new rebellion, they could make it work.

[@ThereIsAlwaysaWay2]

I hope they go forward with the Ray movie ...... I love to see money burn.

[@anadmirer8789]

Let Disney make their appalling movies. You have the power not to pay for them and not to watch. And all the trolling on social media will never change your mind.

[@johnmoorefilm]

It’s 2024 - it’s about time a woman stepped forward and shaped the craft-service table…

[@yahnatanlevi6894]

Star wars marvel alien and Predator franchises need to get away from Disney

[@rocoe9019]

Imagine if a man said they enjoyed making women uncomfortable!!!

[@123mandalore777]

"The Mandalorian is kitsch Star Wars" 100% this. I've been saying this since 2019. Even the first season was just a kitschy knockoff full of member berries. The show just went from being an okay knock off to a bad one. It's never actually managed to be good for longer than a few scenes. I have no interest in the new Mando movie, because as you said, it's going to have a bunch of dumb Nu-Mando's flying around in awkard cringe capesh*t tier "battles". Mandalorians went from being one of the coolest factions in Star Wars to possibly the lamest faction. If Jango, Boba and the Clones aren't Mando's, then Mando's don't matter and aren't interesting at all. Dyn Jarron himself is a boring wokiefied knockoff Boba Fett.

[@chrishuber3372]

At this point, Lucasfilm might as well just remake Star Wars A New Hope with a trans-gender Luke, multi-coloured stormtroopers, & flamboyantly gay Han Solo, and destroy the last remnants of our childhood love of Star Wars. I am not interested in anything Star Wars anymore.

[@craignedoff991]

She'll expose the space alien patriarchy 😂😅

[@vegasgone07-dh4lb]

All Disney Star Wars is a Spin Off and Side Quests. Move Along.

[@Segaton]

World economic forum..... Fuuuuuuuuuu

[@turkN9NE]

I've been checked out. one day movie will be good again

[@captainalex157]

exactly, plenty of good old movies out there.

[@dearthditch]

Did no one learn from the Eternals? May as well pick directors from a world sized hat

[@Eincrou]

I recently explained the problems with this response to Obaid-Chinoy on a Robot Head video, which made the same arguments that try to have it both ways - praising her pro-woman activism, but that she shouldn't use Star Wars as a platform to do it. That isn't how activism works and leftism didn't progress into "woke"-ism by restraining itself. Obaid-Chinoy herself explained how this works, but these centrist commentators don't want to listen to her. The fact that multiple people can independently make the same case shows that there is a general mindset about the anti-"woke" centrist movement. This mindset should be heavily criticized until it's discredited. But it's safe for KZbin and channels that promote it will always be bigger than channels advocating for proper anti-"woke" positions.

[@QuantumSqueeb]

0:15 the most lukewarm character😂

[@a.g.6224]

Why does she love to make men uncomfortable,does she mean men in general or bad men or what? Most men have not done anything bad to her i guess. This is just childish talk.

[@scifigeezer5271]

Season 3 of Mando was Obi Wan levels of bad. I have ZERO interest in a movie and am disappointed in Favreau.

[@YogicBarrister]

You are spot on as ever. Thank you!

[@godmaentertainment4375]

So much money and effort, spent on 2 and and a half great movies from a long long time ago. I wouldn't spend a penny of anything made by Dislame.

[@inkermoy]

I think the Mandalorian would have to have some kind of sidekick like in the film Dredd with Judge Anderson. The only problem with that is you may get a sidekick like Rob Schnieder's character in Judge Dredd instead.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

It’ll be a strong independent female character who’s better at everything ….

[@sterling7]

Jon Favreau is capable of making good movies. Also bad ones (see the "live action" Lion King). But he has a better track record than most. Whatever he produces, though, is probably going to be used for cover for whatever else Lucasfilm tries to shovel out the door on the sputtering fumes of remaining nostalgia and goodwill. I hope they pay him a lot for it... And he uses that cushion to direct projects he actually cares about, far away from Lucasfilm, Disney, and all the other diseases on the skin of creativity.

[@bestlexluthor7596]

Star Wars completely rebooting post return of the Jedi is s goldmine. Correct the mistake made by everybody and that’s Leia not being a saber wielding Jedi. Let Mon Mothma and sone other characters handle politics.

[@andrewbrennan2891]

It will not end until the money stops funding such terrible movies as The Rise of Skywalker and The Dial of Destiny and I'm doing my bit as I didn't spend a dime on either.

[@ereini0n]

The only sequel movie i enjoyed is TLJ but then Kylo Ren is the only character i remember from the trilogy, and don't imagine caring about Rey or whatever new garbage these faketivists come up with.