Disorganized Hebephrenic Schizophrenia Interview from 1980s Psychiatric teaching film

[@jeffknott1975]

The brain is an amzing thing but when broken can be so terrifying.

[@-VOR]

Right? A Harvard lecture, here on KZbin, mentioned that schizophrenia is an example of the brain evolving. It's evolving for "emotional pain" just as it helps with physical pain by releasing natural pain killers, the brain is trying to do the same with emotional pain. This video is a training video, so this woman is an actor. She does pretty good

[@jennross6466]

Their brains are wired differently. Yes it can be frightening and confusing, yet beautiful at the same time. A neighbour that I befriended 6 years ago suffers with paranoid schizophrenia. At first I was highly judgmental with them and I know this is wrong but through speaking with them, I am learning to be less critical and just to listen to them. I feel bad that they are tortured in their mind, it must be so difficult, they have a hard time socially.

[@K1lostream]

@@-VORI suspect you mean ‘developing’ rather than ‘evolving’. Developing is a process that can occur in an individual within a single lifetime. Evolving is something else that is much slower - for a fast-reproducing organism like a virus, it takes months, for a slow-reproducing organism like a mammal, it takes hundreds, thousands, even tens or hundreds of thousands of years. In both cases it is tiny, incremental changes over many, many generations - individuals do not evolve, species evolve.

[@ncbwztcw]

@@-VOR This is a training video, but neither of those women are actors.

[@ronwilliamson-uz7kb]

Yes and there are many broken brains on the streets of our country. We are horrible at helping the mentally ill.

[@Lawh]

I once met a lady who was like this at a hospital, and there was this little thing I noticed about her, and the lady in this video as well. When they speak, they seem to sort of realize that they are not making sense, but they say it anyway, with a hint of confusion. It's difficult to describe, but it's like a part of them is there, but then some parts of them are offline.

[@calliehilbert]

Yes

[@CeskinaNardo]

I did a search to figure out which hospital existed in Bloomington but nothing turns out. The doctor is very good I would like to know who she is

[@Lawh]

@@CeskinaNardo It would be interesting to find out more about her career.

[@dennyTruffles]

I know exactly what you mean. Theres a lil sane part of them up in that sea of senseless chaos. it must be horrifying.

[@Lawh]

@@dennyTruffles Yeah. It gave me great comfort though to see the woman I mentioned become completely well after a few days on her medication. One day she was planting teabags and sugar in potted plants, with feathers on her eyeglasses, the next we were discussing the local election like nothing happened. It is amazing what we can do these days.

[@bigbasil1908]

'Has anyone ever put thoughts into your mind?' 'Only the television' - great answer and very true lol

[@jodyhill5624]

Yes it’s called programming

[@hmq9052]

Everyone here watched TV without going nuts. I think it might be her

[@cincarevic]

Television. Tell-a-vision. Project Mockingbird. Project MK-ULTRA and Monarch. Predictive programming. Mass hypnosis. Subliminal messages. Psychological operations. False flags. Trauma induced events.

[@reelfly]

​@hmq9052 If you can't tell the majority of people are nuts, you need to turn off the TV. ⚠️ Even this schizophrenic patient could see that.

[@nicton_T]

@@hmq9052i dont think she meant that the tv have put negative thoughts into her mind . But its 1980s so people are not educated yet about propaganda and propaganda tools . Also she previously mentioned that a women’s party have put thoughts ,That makes sooo much sense .

[@earthling8585]

The Doctor Is amazing in her effort to connect with this young lady. It's heartbreaking to see this young lady struggle to comprehend and answer. 💔Everyone there is struggling.

[@Acemechanicalservices]

They are acting. Both of them. This is a produced teaching video.

[@PraiseTheSun2023]

​@@Acemechanicalservices I hope they are, its sickening that these questions are asked to someone who is in a mental unstable situation. Its most likely creating a self-image thats very harmfull. The "doctors" urge to create a disorder or trying to find a "recognizable" diagnosis are affecting the patient by doing so. These questions are way too agressively focussed on mental "sickness" You cannot and should not do this but I doubt things are really better today.

[@Chaiwithdhanya]

​@@PraiseTheSun2023 are you in psychology profession?

[@itsmjeezy2596]

They have very intricate tools A profound statement

[@handlesshouldntdefaulttonames]

considering the rest of the gibberish and barely related to the question stuff she was saying, that statement was uncanny.

[@Sugarsugar-24]

MK Ultra??

[@tekn9n]

It was there , before. Which I guess is the case. It's always close to you , if you look

[@CapricornSunSagRisingLibraMoon]

With Schizophrenia, the person has little, if any, control over their auditory, visual and/or thought processes; its involuntary. Some research suggests that an imbalance between certain neurotransmitters and chemical imbalances in the brain are the primary causes. This type of schizophrenia typically develops when you're 15-25 years old. Symptoms include disorganised behaviours and thoughts, alongside short or lasting psychosis (delusions and hallucinations). It's hard for people to understand what they can't see. The public needs awareness and better education on the various types of mental illnesses.

[@marcellomancini6646]

I really don't know why people hate me for having this, they probably want me dead

[@obeliskaba]

There is no evidence linking any mental disorder to a chemical imbalance, it is just words in internet studies, many other studies contradict this belief because there is no test to perform to see which "chemicals" are "out of balance" it doesn't exist. Research Jerry Marzinsky on youtube.

[@obeliskaba]

There is also direct evidence on google: There are no reliable tests to diagnose a chemical imbalance in the brain. Doctors can perform tests to assess the levels of serotonin and other chemicals in your blood. However, this is not an accurate representation of the amount of these present in your brain.

[@wasblindbutnowsee]

I was schizophrenic from about 14 , until I was 65 years old in 2017. God healed me instantly after someone prayed for me. The general public won't ever understand schizophrenia because no one gives a sht. I was always socially unattractive like the guy in this video. I spent a great deal of effort trying to avoid being around people, and I met only to kinds in my 50 years of being crippled. There were the "Good" people who saw there was something wrong with me and avoided me , then there were people who saw there was something wrong with me and found some way to use me or trouble me. I spent a life time, not at the bottom of society, but beneath the feat of the lowest sort of humanity. May 10th of 2024 will be exactly 7 years since regained control of my thoughts. I couldn't make sure decisions or form sure opinions on anything in all those years of being sick. When I was healed I had no favorite way of dressing, I had no favorite foods, I had no sexual preference. I've spent the last 7 years consumed with basic decisions, all the while cursing, screaming and, crying. I was hurt and disappointed imagining what my life would have been if I'd had a chance to live. I was alone in my frightened world and then suddenly brought into the world you all have lived in, a world that seems to be going crazy around me. I could write an interesting book or two from my point of view, but I don't want to remember that world that took me seven years to forget. It could be a really great book if it had a happy ending. It will have a happy ending, but I don't see how I'll be able to write it the day I die.

[@JohnDoe-hr4xj]

​@@wasblindbutnowseecheck out prof. Sam Vaknin. He might have answers for your questions. Maybe search for' Sam Vaknin Schizoid'. Sounds a lot like the 'feeling' you are in now. Good luck!

[@MidnightNeonLabs]

She is absolutly right about the television. Yes they can put thoughts into your mind.

[@jodyhill5624]

It’s called programming tel-le-vision

[@alangrant5684]

News media does it everyday.

[@gerrym.9354]

TV and religion

[@shadetreader]

That's part of how a few rich people can convince hundreds of millions of poor people to remain their slaves....

[@majorfaghot4158..]

shes referring to her delusions, like the tv actually implanting voices in her head, ive had those as well, not the same as whatever you are talking about, its terrifying

[@senor_dos]

Case 1 1. Disorganised behaviour (Disinhibited) 2. Disorganised speech (Loss of association) 3. Early onset 4. Thought broadcasting + (Disorder of possession of thought) 5. Neologism + ( Disorder of form or flow of thought ) 6. Mirror gazing + , Grimming + 7. Affective flattening + ( Negative symptom) 3 out of 5 DSM 5 + D/D = Disorganized Schizophrenia ( Hebephrenia) Bad prognosis Case 2 ...... 8. 3rd person auditory hallucinations + 9. Loss of pleasure (Anhedonia)+

[@IndieSamurai101]

Lord Sayantan

[@sophiesince1995]

What causes one to mirror-gaze and why grimace?

[@cryssstalz]

thank you

[@audreyhepburns]

thanks 💋

[@audreyhepburns]

​@@sophiesince1995catatonia, perhaps?

[@lolah3838]

Wow. I've never heard of this type of schizophrenia and never seen this presentation before.

[@barryholt488]

It's been around

[@wormsnake1]

God bless this woman. I hope she had some quality of life and people to love her. ❤️🙏.x

[@lunarbeauty]

This is for educational purposes both of them are actors.

[@enmukeeenmukee3254]

This was a different time when you could actually admit someone to a mental hospital for quitting his job. You cannot do that today. A mental hospital will not involuntarily admit a patient without a risk of suicide or harm to others. And even if they admit, it is tough to find out what actual diagnosis, treatment and progress is made because of HIPAA laws. Eventually families move on with their lives and the patient once discharged often becomes homeless. That is probably the story of a quarter of the homeless in America.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

No, you couldn't do that in the 80's either. Getting someone admitted against their will is very difficult thanks to something called the constitution.

[@austinballard6815]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 he is right....up until about 40 years ago it was not particularly hard for someone to be involuntarily committed, especially if a family member was the one pushing for it. Laws changed and more protections came about due to abusive use of the commitment statutes. The US Constitution never made it "very difficult" to commit someone where there was good cause to do so. Again, up until about 1980-1990 committing someone was not particularly difficult, tho specifics varied state to state within the US, but generally it would be considered quite lenient by today's standard. At least back then there WAS help available...now, there is hardly any even for the most mentally sick in our crumbling society.

[@christimorris387]

So he is obviously delusional, but the one thing you believe is when he said why he was there?

[@N0ctisGaming5749]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Incorrect, the constitution provides no such protection. Laws out into place in the 80s do however. There was a time not so long ago where it was not that hard to get someone committed, especially women. And if you go back a liiiiittle further even, simple things like being gay or a woman having too many opinions could get you put in the bin. The history of mental health and mental health hospitals is an absolutely fascinating even if terrifying topic. I highly recommend looking into it!

[@eileenhetherington3704]

@EmmukeeEmmukee. No. Families do not move on. I have 3 schizophrenic siblings. The only reason families would "move on" is due to heavy street drug use, refusal to take prescription meds, or extreme violence. There are now very helpful drugs for stabilizing schizophrenics. Schizophrenic s can live on their own and develop relationships. They qualify for SSI. Most are not stable enough to hold jobs but they can make friends. Most of the mentally ill that are homeless were kicked out of their homes because they were stealing money or harassing family members, or they don't live living with others, or they have severe PTSD and are fundamentally unstable, or they have had a psychotic break, or they have dementia or alzheimers and keep wandering away.

[@sponsler]

That was profound, when asked if she was like a robot she said Jehovah's Witness...exactly.

[@shellyo.1725]

When I experience stress psychosis, I noticed that what I think I'm saying is not what others are hearing, because they appear to be the ones that are responding to me with nonsense. I only realize I'm having an episode when I notice time has passed but I have no recollection of what happened during the time that passed.

[@gavinvalentino1313]

MEDS, baby; meds.

[@casadefreedom3836]

I have watched a number of these videos but I can honestly say that this one is truly bizarre. It's hard to wrap my head around a mental illness such as this. I often wonder the point of the doctor's questions since the answers are so nonsensical.

[@Newengland1966]

They are actors its a test not real

[@hmq9052]

She's just asking questions to placate the witch. And give her time to plot an escape. If you watch closely you'll see the interviewer slip into a pair of running shoes.

[@Spectrophia]

@@Newengland1966 They are NOT actors lol.

[@marcellomancini6646]

the answers are not nonsensical, they are just disorganized thoughts that their brain thinks are true, just as a paranoid schizo might think the government is poisoning them

[@jonweman6128]

@@Spectrophia some of these educational films are made with actors. If information is lacking who exactly we see, you can't know.

[@saltyberserker4235]

My hear breaks for these people

[@kmeeks92987]

Well, the TV does put thoughts in people’s minds.

[@bigbasil1908]

It might be correct to say that it puts most thoughts into peoples minds and shapes their minds and beliefs.

[@jodyhill5624]

@@bigbasil1908 he was being sarcastic he knows the TV programs people

[@JeremySawdon]

Can you tell me what makes the television come on? Long space ..........when i push the button.

[@majorfaghot4158..]

thats. ot what she means. please dont bring your conspiracies into someone experiencing psycosis, it is not the same thing.

[@sorrywrongplanet8873]

They’re not wrong

[@SuperFlowback]

This must be a really sad existence for these people. I can’t imagine what their day must be like.

[@ricktherrien8235]

The mind adapts very well it’s called neuroplasticity and it will create the sense of being normal even when a person is not. Neurotic patients have an illness yet are completely aware of their illness but can’t control or alleviate the illness. But even they adapt by learning the illness is part of them even though it’s not comfortable or desirable and although distressed by the symptoms of their illness they willingly commit the acts knowing their an issue. This is because the brain learns that this type of behaviour is normal and will remain committing distressing acts rather then face the stress of changing because they are use to their behaviour and are comfortable with it even though the symptoms are distressing. Just like a person would rather be in a bad relationship then face the fear of losing the comfort that comes from the predictability of their life’s. People can suffer pain everyday then fear being cured of that pain because their minds get so use to bring in pain. I know it sounds weird but these people probably know they don’t make any sense but they probably think it’s just how it is and accept it.

[@torturachina6452]

They don't (actually they can't) GAF

[@atrumshutrum4032]

even extreme disturbing for the doctors to deal with it and come back normal.

[@hmq9052]

She sounds like the internet

[@Ibadegmail]

​@@ricktherrien8235wow... this hit me hard on my personal experiences and perceptions of self, It makes so much sense and is exactly what I must of been doing to cope but being unaware or unwilling to see what I was doing, please can you delve deeper I'm massively curious and hopefully by this self awareness and understanding I can maybe manage myself better.... please.

[@iVenge]

“Religious means to wear glasses or spectacles.” Brilliant.

[@JonCampos-e6e]

The look on the doctors face when she said that.

[@kristenkern4247]

Yeah exactly really cool

[@JijiLedger]

😂😂​@@JonCampos-e6e

[@videosyoutube115]

Why weare glasses?

[@Molotov_zen]

because a human in disbelief that can see without them

[@bartmacaluso]

This lady is somewhere else from the direction of the questions!!! This procedure is not up to the what the patient needs!@ I am horrified that the line of questions are so distant from what the patient is actually experiencing!

[@Samantha_Dulcibella]

Yeah and then there was the doc who was shaking her head every time she answered - wasn’t a very reassuring reaction to someone going through that

[@AccordingToWillow]

the interview isn’t for the purpose of administering therapy, it’s a training video for students. These are actors who are just illustrating schizophrenic speech patterns. the point is for the therapist to see how well the patient can hold a linear train of thought in a conversation because it’s the only way we can tell if someone has disorganized thought patterns. the content itself is arbitrary.

[@MohamedMahmoud-ey9tj]

@@Samantha_Dulcibella exactly my thought

[@lindamcharie1264]

I wonder if these people are still with us..if they got help with their illnesses and were are they now?l

[@yovannitorres1370]

This is extremely interesting

[@sourgummiez]

This is how i feel when im sober and around someone who took lsd

[@PaulLoveless-Cincinnati]

Same and in reverse.

[@mamaj4002]

I took too much acid one time in the 80's and when i got home my parents said I was talking like these people.. I made no sense at all. I only recall flashes from that night, but I remember in the moment everything I was saying made perfect sense to me. The next morning I woke up fine and my parents were still awake waiting to see if they were going to have to call in the white coats and have me wheeled out in a straight jacket. Luckily I woke up with my mind in tact, but i was grounded for a month.. no phone, no tv and no more acid.

[@NathanShaw-sv9xe]

I've never seem anything like this before. I didn't know existed. Makes me feel sorry for her.

[@claudiacarvalho2773]

It is very sad😢. Only people who have loved ones going through know 😢

[@dba4292]

I too hope the woman in the glasses gets the help she needs.

[@rebeccamariscal8091]

What do yu mean?

[@sallyraynor8984]

What on earth are you on about! Are you Schizo?

[@kasia2636]

To samo pomyślałam😅😂

[@eloiselebler3045]

😅

[@RYRHYMES]

Agree. Where's her sessions 🤦‍♂️

[@djsgravely]

I could watch these for hours. Fascinating.

[@rfink222]

These questions would drive me crazy.

[@623-x7b]

I had time travel experiences: close my eyes fall asleep in one psych ward wake up a week later - try not to fall asleep in the past back at the other one a week before. Tried telling my friend but the memories were gone (hadn't happened yet.) Also had an OBE standing outside car while was inside it being driven about. You don't know the brain's power until you've experienced it.

[@MarkPloppin]

No you haven't. Those are delusions.

[@623-x7b]

@@MarkPloppin That's what I was saying.

[@MarkPloppin]

@@623-x7b it sounded like you were serious.

[@BradleyBeauchamp-fu3rr]

Yeah I have a voice box too…nearly everyone says it is psychosis yet certain people have also heard it. It’s hilarious to me as she has said the exact same thing as me “voice box” if I’d real schizophrenics don’t get voice boxed (hint hint bugged by police) they would go really insane, the weeks before I was voice boxed I was whispering my thoughts out loud,.,thank you for posting this this is the first time I’ve ever seen somebody else say “voice box” and thank you police fir the voice box

[@Lyssa0095]

?

[@spurrr6812]

@@Lyssa0095he is schizophrenic probably

[@Ryanbutcher123]

do you also have hebethrenic schizophrenia

[@wayfaring_stranger1413]

​@@Lyssa0095afraid someone is recording their talks

[@wepsychoit2002]

My mummy's got a squeeze box she wears on her chest when daddy comes home he can't get no rest

[@loralabelless6875]

Is it weird that i think i inderstood some of what she was saying? She studied in another ST. Religious means to wear glasses or spectacles 🤯 they have very intricate tools to put things into your head 👀

[@Eirinen_E34]

Religion, means ' to bind '

[@almondtea4704]

@@Eirinen_E34maybe she “religiously” wears her glasses out of necessity and she picked up on that

[@BLKDAWGZ]

Mku

[@dbenson3114]

Her voice is soothing.

[@WormBurger]

I was almost like this lady... Disorganized schizophrenia was my diagnosis. 😢 I hope she got the help she needed.

[@Lindsey-hb6wo]

I think this young lady is more advanced than the therapist! She is ina different dimension

[@xTintenherz]

Humans can only comprehend 3 dimensions. Scientific research suggest there may be much more. I believe some people are able to connect with other forces but our human brain is not made for that. It's like overheating a computer processor If you know what I mean. I usually get headaches after my psychosis starts knocking on the door

[@Nightmarepizza]

Tv does control your mind

[@ronlentjes2739]

it's the ones that say not control me they got (har)... how much coke do you drink?

[@KaSpErNeNiN]

Watch Tv and drink your Beer Mr Charles Manson RIP

[@martinfpavey]

They're called programmes for a reason.

[@majorfaghot4158..]

she is experiencing psycosis. please dont bring your qanon conspiracies therories into someone going through something terrifying because their brain is sick.

[@andrewtoland2873]

It was as if what they were saying wasn’t matching what they were thinking but were still trying to get the thoughts out anyway. The lady in the beginning even seemed to be frustrated at times, like she knew that she wasn’t making sense

[@DJ_PROMO_PR]

Marjorie Taylor Greene talks exactly the same... and still she's a Congresswoman. Amazing.

[@inthejcurve7968]

@DJ_PROMO_PR At least she knows what a garbage disposal is, MTG is a patriotic America, and I’m curious how many Haitian migrants you’ll house in your home.

[@Parrotgirl-tattoo]

​@@inthejcurve7968Trump won!!! 🇺🇸💪✌️ World/Peace 2024 ✌️🇺🇸✌️🇺🇸✌️

[@jamillos22]

She's awesome and actually makes a lot of sense in a way, albeit mysterious, if not ominous.

[@MikeGervasi]

It's almost like a rewiring of the grammar where what they think to say and what comes out are 2 different things. The first girls was understandable IF you translated what she said keeping the question in mind i.e. "Made me see" could be spoken as "glasses".

[@danielthemaniel7934]

Some of these questions seemed more like a job interview for an X Man

[@anattablue]

She cannot think but she knows what she means. Even if the actor is slightly flawed

[@uriahstone2209]

What happened to the man who associated the number two with homosexuality? Anyone know his name ? It was a fascinating case study

[@pertsa9967]

I mean he is right because number two means the exit hole

[@jonathankyle7112]

That guy was great.

[@usel7226]

What u talking about

[@Mikey30202]

Bro there gotta be hidden truth in that

[@ronlentjes2739]

i' researching this. hard to sort out, but it's like spirit taking over but hitting wrong brain switches, not mapping correctly in, strange. just need to watch a lot more cases...

[@walterkersting9922]

I’d really love to know Gods heart on this lady and other people who have issues that seem to preclude them from understanding God as I do.

[@hara1245]

This broke my heart....😢😢😢

[@MarkPloppin]

Not me. I was chuckling

[@Jeremy-dy5zv]

Humm I don't see the problem she makes perfect sense to me.🤷‍♂️

[@LethalBubbles]

the way it almost makes sense disturbs me. Like are these multiple thoughts put together or is the original thought distorted? Take the first thihg said for example, being asked about the hospital, she replied "to teach" does she mean "teach to the nurses" or is she replacing "patient" with "teacher". Sometimes theres a pause as if shes trying to give one thought out, and then she seems to blut somethimg unrelated out to end the pause. This illness is scary because I am not sure if theyre just giving randomness that happens to be in their mind or if shes conscious in there, trying to give good responses, but her mouth gives somethihg else. I think its the latter and thats terrifying to me to be trapped like that.

[@lilv8761]

My experience is i thought i was making sense, but people said i spoke in riddles or something, now adays i wonder if half of what i tell people is still just some kind of broken up language, a grasp for or loss of syntax. With the desire or craving for “sunapsis” with another person being my driving force for staying sane.

[@RedStorm.]

They don't tell us how much drugs are in them, given by the doctors. I have talked to schizophrenics many times without meds, and they are never this subdued.

[@martinfpavey]

I know this is going to sound inappropriate but the chap in the second half of this video has a genuinely sweet aura to him. You just want to reach out and hug him, wishing that everything could be okay. I wonder if the 2 or 4 rounds he mentioned might have been referring to ammo?

[@mjayb83]

Maybe 2-4 rounds of drinks, he did mention getting pulled over, and that might explain being fired...

[@henryrollins9177]

Do you know that these are actors, dont you?

[@Spectrophia]

@@henryrollins9177 They are not actors.

[@henryrollins9177]

@@Spectrophia Ok, kid. But description says so...

[@Spectrophia]

@@henryrollins9177 The description is wrong and the video is taken from another source. See what happens when you believe descriptions on KZbin videos? lol

[@uofm4life735]

What a beautiful young lady...I hope she is ok.

[@scatdog1]

She’s just fine because she’s an actor, these aren’t real patients.

[@rexxx777]

​@scatdog1 no way are these people actors. They carry on and on with meaningless, disconnected ideas and are not reading off a script. They all have that blank emotionless look about them.

[@andiepants1840]

This reminds me of a time in downtown Cleveland when I was sitting on a bench listening to a guy in a suit who was just kinda talking to nobody, and it was like the random shifting imagery of dreaming only awake.

[@Nitephall]

The interviewer gives that condescending shake of the head after every meaningless answer.

[@miked8227]

One evening I visited my grandfather at the hospital and he was talking gibberish. He was all over the map like this and it turned out he had a urinary track infection. A couple days later he was totally normal and could not recall his episode.

[@user-ik4br3nk2w]

I like how the Dr allows the weird older patient to continuously ask random questions

[@videosyoutube115]

This doctor seems like a machine and very emotionless to deal with theirs patients, showing no sensitivity nor anything. Deal as if he were an interviewer for hiring people of a company. Strange way to deal with others health, as if he were dealing with a machine. 🤔

[@tjpj111]

Are these actual patients or actors in a training video?

[@Gngatho]

As a person who once had an episode the tv putting thoughts in my mind felt like the dimension came out of the tv into my reality and the two get blurred.

[@Gngatho]

@@xTintenherz yes it feels like your translating reality or having some sort of deja vu..

[@xTintenherz]

@@Gngatho Exactly, it feels like everything repeats itself at some point

[@akashsunil7464]

What students are like after they finally graduate

[@redclover1027]

I just thank God that medications have been developed since then to help these folks live a mostly normal life. My grandma died from manic depression in 1980 because lithium was the only thing they were given. So she had to decide between being a medicated zombie or an unmedicated human. So sad.😢

[@kumkwat3555]

I feel like the questions should be simplified when treating a person with such disorganised thoughts and speech. If there are psychologists in this comment section could you lend me some knowldge on working with such person?

[@pabloassante5360]

Are these real patients? If there actors, do they have a script or what makes them answer the way they do?

[@Johnnyjingles87]

Re upload. The guy with the glasses talking about the number two

[@malerie123456789]

The right hand and homosexuality

[@ronlentjes2739]

i think he's confusing smoking for juster...

[@truthseeker8072]

This is the saddest thing because if you recognised modern day society at all for what is, TV, advertising, retargeting, etc you could be deemed as schizophrenic when in fact the TV literally does put thoughts into your head. It tells you what to desire, what to do to keep up with the joneses, what agenda you should be following, who you're not allowed to listen to, your facebook does it, your instagram does it, your twitter does it.

[@jf2801]

I'd say that's quite a reach. While it is true that media and society do impact certain mindsets and behaviors, schizophrenia is a complex disorder, characterized by things much more severe than just being like "you know the food in advertising is fake." Because, ya know, it actually is fake. Or "the news is fearmongering." Because they often do. It's what sells. Schizophrenia is more along the lines of thinking things are there when they aren't, hearing voices, delusions and hallucinations of all types, paranoia, disorganized speech and thought, behavioral disturbances, dissociation, catatonia, in some cases. And many other symptoms. To say that somebody could be misdiagnosed because they're "woke" is trivializing a serious mental disorder that afflicts many people.

[@showt1me133]

Imagine getting socially conditioned

[@ronlentjes2739]

something told me to... to buy... something told me you can buy 2 or 4... cans of coke... it was the TV...

[@TibbersandTvStatc]

the psychiatrist i seen asked me sepcifically if the tv had spoken directly to me,, and not to anyone else

[@ronlentjes2739]

@@TibbersandTvStatc considering how tech is personalised these days - it wouldn't surprise me at all if the TV only told you to $buy$ that car!

[@Christian-qu9ml]

These people are the sane ones in an insane world...

[@c.j.1089]

Wow, you're so enlightened.

[@chrisbinckes2732]

tim leary had an assessment phrase 'insincere knavery' which does fit hebephrenia cases

[@Canuckchick32]

The human brain is very scary! Hopefully these people are doing well today. 🙏

[@ivia_ol8356]

She actually started making sense at 4:10.

[@jflsdknf]

This looks more like aphasia than schizophrenia. She's having trouble getting her words out right not necessarily having delusions

[@jakedaviscomedy]

My thoughts exactly

[@eileenhetherington3704]

This is classic hebephrenic schizophrenia. This is the worst type to have (except for paranoid schizophrenia). She is in a world of her own. She doesn't know what she means and is kind of a lost, fractured soul. She is no longer grounded in reality. This type of schizophrenia can be very hard to treat with medications. I grew up with 7 siblings. 3 developed schizophrenia. I have had to learn a lot about this disease.

[@jakedaviscomedy]

@@eileenhetherington3704 thank you for the clarification Eileen; I had no idea that schizophrenia could get this extreme. How would someone in this condition be able to communicate or perform regular daily tasks?

[@eileenhetherington3704]

@Jake Davis They can't. It is a torturous, cruel disease. Their actions are as disordered as their thoughts. They can eat and get themselves dressed, usually, but are not oriented to time, place, or situation. My older sister deteriorated more and more as she aged. She would walk out of my folks' house and go missing for hours. When found she would have a suitcase, and explain she was meeting her boyfriend. (No boyfriend). My parents eventually had to place her, and my youngest sister, in a nursing home just to keep them safe and make sure they take their meds. Most diagnosed schizophrenics are on heavy medications because their fractured reality can cause them to behave in very unpredictable ways. They qualify for SSI so that helps with their care. My brother with schizophrenia is higher functioning, has an apartment and a girlfriend, but will always be on medications. Very very few schizophrenics recover. Medications, however, have improved somewhat over the years. When my brother was in his violent stage in his teens, he was on heavy doses of thorazine, which turns you into a zombie. My schizophrenic siblings are aged 55-67 and are probably as mood stable as they have ever been, though my oldest sister is completely out of her mind.

[@mapleext]

Incredibly sad for all involved. I’m so sorry.

[@paalsbrook]

Any back story on this girl? How/when did this start? Wonder what her childhood was like?

[@JahBreed]

I get like this after Seizure. I can think clearly but the words I want to use don't come out and get even more scrambled the harder I try to make sense.

[@RJFP67]

They seems to be heavily medicated to me ? Is it the only way to get to speak with them where they’ll sit there and converse ?

[@dariansdoor7098]

Huh. I understand her completely. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@kmeeks92987]

Completely???

[@strongindependentblackwoma1887]

Oblivion conversation.

[@gavinvalentino1313]

"Do you sometimes feel as if you're a robot?" "That is a Jehovah's Witness, yes." *NAILED IT*

[@shelbysmama4974]

As a former JW, yes she most definitely nailed it😂

[@mylamberfeeties875]

​@@shelbysmama4974i find them to be nice and do a lot for the community they are in. They also are literally the only people who actually read the whole Bible 😂 which when judgement comes I bet they get less punishments than most 😂

[@shelbysmama4974]

@@mylamberfeeties875 there's a huge difference between reading the Bible and perverting it to justify your twisted, perverted idea of what it means to be a Christian. JWs are the textbook definition of a CULT. Period. End. Of. Discussion.

[@StuffBudDuz]

I've watched a number of these. These two "subjects" seem to be acting. Of note, the description says "Teaching Film" and makes no claim that these are actual patients. I doubt they are.

[@JonCampos-kh2bw]

3:19. Looks straight into the camera after the question.

[@codereddew1539]

Her word association is mind boggling.

[@w.okkerse915]

Very sad to see. Completely devastated life. 💔

[@francescamuci7896]

What is the name of the doctor?

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Pretty sure this is just actors.

[@ronlentjes2739]

Dr Green, follow the yellow brick road to MkUltra street...

[@CeskinaNardo]

@@ronlentjes2739 I did not understand

[@ronlentjes2739]

@@CeskinaNardo That's ok not many people aware they were doing experiments on people to use them to perform acts unknowingly. One of the old programs is called MkUltra. Newer programs also include microwaves weapons and techniques to torture people and make them look crazy so that they are out away into psych wards or prisons. It's a military thing. Very evil.

[@ronlentjes2739]

Not many people aware they were doing experiments on people to use them to perform acts unknowingly. One of the old programs is called MkUltra. Newer programs also include microwaves weapons and techniques to torture people and make them look crazy so that they are out away into psych wards or prisons. It's a military thing. Very evil.

[@ghostdogzx-1474]

Now I’ve heard “word salads” from mentally ill before, but they’re usually random words put together that don’t go together. However, with the first woman it seemed she was answering a question somewhat coherently, its just that her “answer” had nothing to do with the question. Fascinating.

[@tiekbane]

They make perfect sense.

[@ferrosjewellers4558]

I used to get spam emails like this. !!.. Sentences strung together with no meaning and no direction.

[@rainonsuburbs]

Really xd ?

[@ronlentjes2739]

political speak, you mean?

[@alexk7442]

Is this real?

[@21stcenturyoptimist]

She brings a message from the demiurge

[@kathleenmckenzie9500]

Sorry I was 10 minutes into it. So terrifying we can get to that stage. No relief in sight.

[@societydwellingifd766]

*_I felt a little nervous when she looked at the camera after being asked if she could read minds and a couple other times. Idk why but it was strange._*

[@fadingdimension]

These are not real patients. It's a dramatic educational production. It would be used as a classroom tool to initiate discussions and observational note-taking.

[@clancycavnar2400]

They are indeed real patients. Maybe that would not happen today, but there is no way these people are such good actors. See others in the series; a certain genius is shown and a poetic interpretation of reality that you only see in schizophrenia

[@gerrym.9354]

Dr. Artie Ziff before transitioning?

[@steghuman9063]

Already saw this ages ago. Anything new to upload?

[@steghuman9063]

@Elle - ??? I am not entitled, that was a simple a question to the uploader, who had previously uploaded this video ages ago. Interested as to why it was reuploaded.

[@tomasviane3844]

I'm not sure if this is just a temporary fase she's going through or it's something constant. In the latter... oh my!

[@LavalletteLavallette]

What drug(s) do they give these patients before they interview them? The seem sedated.

[@FloyDJode]

When he mentions Manson that's terrifying. Given the time period of this, the patient could have actually been part of some circle where Manson was affiliated, be it H&Ash or MKUltra

[@jhonny3053]

Man 1: "Two rounds or four rounds." Man 2: "Give them four." Man 1: "Sir, this group is showing early signs of psychosis already, four rounds might push them over the edge!" Man 2: "If we can't produce a shared consciousness this time, the entire project gets defunded and warehoused. If that happens, the subjects will be freed and become the public's problem anyways, it's out of our hands at that point." Man 1: "Yes, sir."

[@liamskywalker6591]

This is wild... there's something deeper going on here that we don't truly understand.

[@_krimzen_]

Are these actors reenacting real interviews?

[@julesmpc1314]

As real patients can not be exposed and those with such conditions can not give consent....I wonder

[@KellyB.-wi9nf]

Opening seconds, no idea which one is nuts.

[@bibifatima3479]

Do anyone with this disorder feel like people are hating you and ignoring you ? 😢

[@JenClair]

Do you?

[@hailesalassierasterfari6218]

My uncle is going through this 😢😢😢

[@mmurray1963]

The nerve endings in her brain that processes meaning of what she hears is not connected. Lack of electrical stimuli possibly caused by a head injury/trama when she was a baby or the nerve never fully developed.

[@eileenhetherington3704]

No. She hears but cannot make sense of what is said, cannot relate to it, and her thoughts are a tumbler of word salad. I have 3 siblings with schizophrenia (out of 8 children). This is exactly what they sound like.

[@francescamuci7896]

Other clip ?

[@SSS0510]

Блин, ну мне тоже иногда кажется, что телик на меня так влияет 😅

[@marcellomancini6646]

I am diagnosed with psychosis and I get these kinds of thoughts pretty often, I might not think they are true but I always wonder if they have a meaning and sit on it for a while, should I be worried?

[@xTintenherz]

Keep good care of yourself brother. A lot of modern neuroleptics are really effective. They will Help you. Always try to get enough sleep, eat and sleep Well, avoid stress and have good friends or family looking after you. While these thoughts can be interesting and exciting it's always important to keep a healthy distance and not get lost in them. Hobby's and sport Help. Good luck and don't be scared :)

[@FloyDJode]

Tha annotations and inflections of a normal, iambic conversation are there, it's just the actual phonetics that are jumbled, almost like you think one thing but say another