DISPROVING MOLTENMCI, ONCE AND FOR ALL! | FNaF Theory (OUTDATED)

[@meganKT]

it's interesting to see an animator make fnaf theory other than that love the production quality also for my lil opinion i do LIKE to think the sister location anims are not possessed making ennard not possessed but that's just not canon but that's okay.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

The beauty of theorizing is that everyone can have their own thoughts!

[@raysandrarexxia941]

In the let's count section, you counted 7 souls. Since Golden Freddy was never dismantled (on screen), that eliminates 2 from that count, making 5. There are 5 funtime-ish animatronics: Freddy, Ballora, Baby, Foxy, and Chica. So, 5 things do become 1 in that game.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Technically you're totally right. However, MoltenMCI is in reference to the Missing Children's Incident where 5 children were murdered by William Afton (Hence the MCI part of that nickname for the theory.) We know the fifth victim resides in Golden Freddy, and popular belief is that the Crying Child from FNaF 4 does as well. If MoltenMCI is referring to the MCI, it's a package. However it's worth noting that there's totally an argument to be made about the Crying Child not actually possessing Golden Freddy, although in my opinion he probably does (Hence the "It's Me" messages to Mike and the Survival Logbook.) Baby also gets ejected from Ennard after SL, but semantics.

[@xM0nst3Rx]

I feel like Withereds were supposed to be like the intended appearance for the robots, hence why they were used in the pixel minigame. Even Phantom Freddy and Funtime Freddy has the same looks as Withered Freddy with buttons. And I agree that Remnant in game is different from book Remnant. 6:42 I think that it's because he is a springlock suit and unless the suit is returned to robot mode, he stays slumped down like that. Which also makes it impossible to remove the robot from the suit because the robot parts are all connected to the springlock mechanisms, which are existing inside the suit parts. 9:05 I agree. If they also had multiple souls in them, then I think it would have been referenced at least once somewhere. 11:55 Like I said, it could be a model change too. Just like how Springtrap turned into Scraptrap. There are huge differences, and yet they are still the same character. Like Burntrap, and Glitchtrap, and even the Entity from Ruin. Also why I don't think we should use the appearances of the robots is because like you said, FNAF 1 animatronics are still possessed. And if they were dismantled before, considering that because FNAF 1 place was abandoned when William went there to dismantle them, no one put them back together. It's why Phone Dude has the dismantled FNAF 1 parts around in FNAF 3 location. However, I agree with other things. MoltenMCI always bugged me anyways.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

This is why I love theorizing with people, because your comment and someone else's has given me some new perspective. I never thought about the Withereds possibly actually being a redesign in the same vain as Scraptrap. You make an interesting point there with the model change, the only issue being that in FNaF 3 we also see the Classic Models from FNaF 1 in the building. I think that in itself could lend further evidence to the idea that the Withereds were originally the suits William Afton stuffed the children into, but when FNaF 1 rolled around they were remodeled. The Phantoms appearing as the Withereds (mostly) could be because they are appearing as the suits they were stuffed in. However Chica would be the odd one out there. There's also a valid point in that in FNaF 3 the animatronic parts are hung around the attraction, and those are the FNaF 1 models. If they were dismantled post FNaF 1 then that explains why they're in pieces (barring the fact it's been 30 years since the pizzeria shut down.) Another commenter pointed out the fact that MoltenMCI might very well be the intention Scott had with Molten Freddy, which I think is possible. There's a lot of details/semantics that go against it, but the narrative itself might be saying otherwise. Also, thank you for watching the video! I love having these sort of conversations.

[@xM0nst3Rx]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 No problem at all! You're an animator that I love to follow and I'm glad that you're also into theorizing. And yeah, I agree that they were remodelled. FNAF 1 crew are still the same as the Withereds, just a remodel. Yes, Scott could have intended for that. I also think that MoltenMCI or just MCI Spirits could still work because William could have just taken their remnant when he first killed them. Makes more sense to me that William would take the MCI Remnant when he killed them because it's the whole reason why he killed them. He wanted to experiment on Remnant and he needed to collect it. So he killed the MCI to collect their Remnant. Then he probably experimented around with his robots. Mangle is actually the first robot to be found in the Afton household in FNAF 4 minigames. And if we say that Circus Baby's Pizza World opened after FNAF 2 because of the voice line of HandUnit at the start of SL, then it would make sense that he first experimented on his robots and then gave them the ability to lure in and kidnap/kill children for him to collect their Remnant later on. We know that he knew about Remnant before CBPW opened because Baby and the other Funtimes already had the ability to kidnap children. And we also know that Remnant can be torn to pieces. While souls' consciousnesses exist in the FNAF 1 crew, their soul parts went on to be used on the Funtimes, thus connecting them to Molten Freddy because we know that, unless all of the Remnant of a soul is gotten rid of, then their consciousness will just go on to possess their remaning Remnant. I also highly believe that game William consumed Remnant in some form, hence why he possessed Spring Bonnie after dying inside of it. He knows the properties of Remnant too much and he also used it to regenerate his corpse as seen in Burntrap. To me, for him to be able to know this, he must have had experience with it before. And we know that he could use it on no one but himself. If we think about it, him injecting Remnant to the robots doesn't show him that it can regenerate him. But if he consumed Remnant as a human, then he would know about its regenerative abilities. And we need a reason for him to turn into Springtrap by making his soul possess the robot that he died in. Phone Guy also died inside of a robot, his body literally got crushed on the endo, and yet he didn't come back. There must be something making William special. Different than all the other adults.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

@@xM0nst3Rx I'm not sure about William consuming Remnant, although I wouldn't say it's impossible either. He definitely was experimenting with it as seen in The Fourth Closet, his whole motive was wanting to achieve immortality after all. I don't actually think it was Remnant that allowed him to haunt the springlock suit, but as seen with the other animatronics it's just how possession can work (They were stuffed in the suits, so they haunt said suits. Afton died in that suit, so he haunts said suit.) I've seen the idea thrown around that the souls of the children could still be haunting the originals while some of them is also in the Funtimes, which is possible. It just makes the whole "5 things becoming one" weird still because we still never see Afton dismantle Golden Freddy, and even if he did the popular belief is that it's not just Cassidy in there, but the Crying Child. It also bugs me that we don't necessarily know exactly when Afton became aware of Remnant. When Matpat did his timeline he deposited that it was when he was working as the guard in FNaF 2 which I can definitely see making sense, but at that point he'd already killed 6 kids and they were haunting the Withereds+Puppet. That's why I like MoltenDCI a little more because it gives the children that died in FNaF2 more purpose in the story and it lines up a little better (Admittedly, there's very little evidence for it.) Also, in the case of Phone Guy, there is a fun little theory that suggests he actually possessed the phone he'd been talking through before he died. Reason being that he is a character you can go against in UCN and that there's precedent for souls possessing objects/Remnant being in objects.

[@xM0nst3Rx]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 But like I said, if possession worked on normal adults also, then Phone Guy would have haunted the robot that he died in. The endo as we see when we get killed in FNAF 1. And it was always children who possessed stuff, even in the books as far as I know. Like, Kelly died on top of Mimic by being crushed by it, and yet she didn't possess it. And she must have been around 15+, closer to an adult because she's a high school student. So I think it's safe to say that after a certain age, Remnant is not produced enough to make someone come back to life. William died when he was at least 42. I doubt that he didn't consume Remnant to come back. Even in the book trilogy, he still talked through his own body, not through Springtrap like game William does. He still had his organs intact and he could still bleed to death, so he didn't die in the book trilogy. He was always alive, hence why CharlieBotBaby in TFC tells Jessica "Hurry up, do you want him to die?" while she's cutting William's kidney before putting it inside of the MoltenMCI mesh on the heated-up table. If you haven't read TFC, or read it a long time ago, I'd suggest doing that because that book has very interesting things in it. 😊 Thanks for replying!

[@Bodoque.Benedicto]

I'm going to go insane. Why doesn't this have more views and likes🦀🦀🦀 The visuals used to a company the theory crafting goes along great, and I thought the theory in general was very interesting too. You did amazing 🛩💥

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Thank you! I want to do more in the future. It just takes a lot of work but it's really fun.

[@Z3r3na202]

But theres one thing... ✨No✨

[@molamola9723]

I disagree with theories that try to disprove moltenMCI through a narrative perspective. Theories like this that are against moltenMCI are so excessively semantic and nit picky, counting buttons, twisting dialogue, and trying to figure out specific rules for something like remnant. I believe regardless of those semantics and details Scott’s intentions for molten Freddy is to be the MCI straight up. Why else would Scott write the part of the insanity ending speech where William lures all the MCI back together and sets them to a new purpose used in ways never thought imaginable. Why else would the completion ending show the gravestones of the MCI and Charlie after the fire. Narratively Scott is trying to show that the completion ending leads chronologically to the gravestones scene meaning the MCI were in the completion ending, as who else but molten Freddy. This is further backed up in Henry’s speech when he mentions it’s time to rest for those that Charlie has carried in her arms - showing specifically on screen the MCI. Point being is to look at the bigger picture and story. Henry’s plan specifically HAD to include the MCI whether we’re looking at the insanity speech or the completion speech and the one animatronic that fits the bill of possibly being the MCI is molten Freddy. Narratively it’s satisfying this way and what Scott most likely intended even if it caused some minor retcons in the story like Bonnie’s and Freddy’s buttons being wrong in the fnaf3 minigames.

[@molamola9723]

Ok that was a long rant so I’ll split this section here into a separate comment. Like think about it from another perspective. It’s so narratively LAME for molten freddy to not be the MCI. Like he’s one of 4 baddies in this game, there’s JUST these 4. He’s also required for this huge narrative finale which is a big deal for this franchise. The other three are Charlie daughter of Henry and the one who transferred the MCIs souls, William the killer of the MCI and the main antagonist, Elizabeth daughter of the killer who had an entire game dedicated to her, and then molten Freddy is supposed to be just what? Some nobody kids that presumably were caught by the funtimes and died offscreen?? Some kids we know literally nothing about, and never showed up before nor after this ending??? That’s such a dumb route to take narratively and it just doesn’t make sense for molten Freddy to be such a pointless character when the other 3 are huge deals.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

You know, I don't even necessarily disagree with you. Actually I think narratively MoltenMCI DOES make the most sense. You're totally right, all the evidence in reference to Molten Freddy clearly seems to point to the Missing Children, especially the graves at the end of the Lorekeeper/Completion Ending. The Insanity Ending monologue also clearly seems to be in reference to the Follow Me minigames. Contrary to the title I'm willing to believe MoltenMCI is possible because, let's face it, the simple answer is most likely the right answer. It's just a shame not all the details line-up, or at least not in an in-depth way. Like I brought up in the video, "5 things becoming one" makes clear sense when you have Ennard in mind and the MCI. But then you actually count and it's the MCI+Two or so other kids (Elizabeth and Crying Child.) Now to be fair, there's different ways to spin that, obviously one aspect being that Elizabeth is ejected and I know there's a theory that suggests CC could've been freed at the end of FNaF 3. However, I'm not so quick to throw out small details, because I've always been someone who thinks small details can really make or break a theory. If we say MoltenMCI is the case then that what about FNaF 1? The animatronics in FNaF 1 are clearly still haunted. Ok, but that could just mean Follow Me takes place after FNaF 1, which could be. However the logbook already makes references to SL ala exotic butters and bongos, so SL has already happened meaning Ennard has already happened. All in all, going back to what I said before, I don't even necessarily disagree with you that MoltenMCI makes narrative sense, I just wish that if it were the case it made a little more sense from other perspectives. Thank you for leaving your thoughts!

[@molamola9723]

@@TheDoctorIsIn101 I didn’t rlly try to delve into these details, but the idea is since we can establish moltenMCI to be the most likely case then with that foundation it’s easy to work backwards from there and answer these such questions. With candy cadets stories the one relevant to moltenMCI is the one where the man stitches the children together and puts them into one coffin. Realistically all that’s important in this story is that the five kids eventually end up in one coffin. Sure in reality the five kids souls first become 5 animatronics then mashed up into 3 then finally into 1 but I don’t think those semantics are the point of the story. The main message is that Henry brings these five missing kids souls together into his one pizzeria/coffin, regardless of the form the kids souls took along the way whether that be in 5 or 3 or 1 animatronic there’s still only just 5 kids souls in the end. For the logbook, it could simply not happen during fnaf1 but rather fnaf3. There’s a mess of arguments for fnaf3 logbook but the main one I point to is that the office shown in the book is the fnaf3 office. It even has the box with the scrapped toy animatronics which can ONLY exist if fazbear frights has been established. That would then make the timeline fnaf1>followme>fnaf5>logbook>fnaf3 which works perfectly fine for moltenMCI. And yeah maybe we can keep debating about details that might seem off here and there but my main point is that with moltenMCI established we can piece everything else together coherently even if some bits are a tad shabby but then again I doubt there’s any 100% perfect theories in this franchise.

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

​@@molamola9723 If today is any indication, it's very difficult to get definitive conclusions in this franchise. The book debate is stronger than ever now after what Scott posted to Reddit. The FNaF 3 office being in the logbook is definitely a good point, the only rebuttal I would have is some of the other drawings Mike draws and the fact that by FNaF 3 Fazbear Entertainment isn't a massive corporate entity anymore (Barring FNaF 6 being a trap of course, and eventually the company's revival in the SB Era.) Mike does drawings in reference to Sister Location and FNaF 1 (I.E. The "POWER!" drawing), the latter being just a tad strange considering FNaF 3 has nothing to do with using power. Also, the reason I bring up Fazbear Entertainment is because of the yellow sticky notes in the Security Logbook. On the very first page there's a note along the lines of, "Looks like this used to belong to someone else, you don't mind, right?" and then another note that goes something like "Don't mention the Springlocks bruh", as far as we know there were no active Fazbear joints after the FNaF 1 location closed so why would the company feel the need to leave said notes. That said, I'd concede that such details obviously don't concretely disprove MoltenMCI. The only 100% perfect theory I can think of in this series is that we play as BonnieBro in HW2, that feels immensely clear.

[@CALLEDIT456]

Good job doc

[@Chills-zb9lj]

In the follow me mini game foxy has fur on his legs and is undamaged, but foxy could not have been attempted to be repaired after the springlock on Afton because the foxy go go go minigame shows foxy with metal legs just as he has in fnaf 1 and 2 and afton is in the foxy go go go minigame. So why in follow me is a fully repaired foxy there at all 🤔

[@TheDoctorIsIn101]

Most Foxy designs depict him as actually having no fur on his legs, Rockstar Foxy is the exception. In FNaF 1 Foxy has no fur on his legs of course, and in Follow Me the building is very clearly in bad condition which probably means it's either abandoned/has not been repaired. I don't think the Foxy in Follow Me is necessarily a repaired Foxy, more so just a design decision. To be fair that can also be used as an argument against what I said in my theory, but Foxy having red legs in that minigame is a bit different from buttons. We know the Withereds had buttons, though Foxy ever having suit-legs is a different story. Most likely just the fact that when you're doing these 8-bit minigame you lose some detail.