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@danderson8431
@danderson8431 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a “Strong Black Woman”, and this week my supervisor publicly shamed and ridiculed me over something that I actually did correctly at work. I was visibly upset. I even went home and did a vague post on Facebook about the incident. I thought about reporting the incident, but chose not to. What I didn’t know until later is that someone who saw it go down went and reported the incident on my behalf. That man is no longer my supervisor, and I received a formal apology from the company. I feel incredibly blessed that even though I am the walking embodiment of the stereotype, my coworkers still see my humanity. I think it because that was the first time they ever saw me get that upset.
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy that it worked out for you.
@alumpyhorse
@alumpyhorse 2 жыл бұрын
💙
@MysticLiquidJade
@MysticLiquidJade 2 жыл бұрын
I jumped with happiness inside when I read that it was reported on your behalf! Just that someone saw how wrong it was and felt the need to say something. I found joy in your comment because of how it worked out in your favor. Remember, no matter how strong you are, never forget that includes standing up for yourself especially when you know you are in the right. You are an adult, no one has the right in a workplace to make you feel small, its transactional - a paycheck for my service not my self-esteem. Keep your head up girl!
@LakeishaMonique
@LakeishaMonique 2 жыл бұрын
Be blessed
@jaijai5250
@jaijai5250 2 жыл бұрын
@D Anderson. The “strong black woman” trope isn’t a compliment for us. It was coined and perpetuated by black men, in order to condone, legitimise and propagate the neglect, abuse and mistreatment of black women. It has now been adopted worldwide. It’s basically saying that black women are undeserving of the love, protection and support, that all other groups of women in society take for granted. Remember, strong things only last for so long, and they break eventually, if they’re not maintained or cared for appropriately, or adequately. Why do you think so many black women suffer from obesity, and other lifestyle related illnesses and diseases, such as high blood pressure and diabetes.
@BendyBecky
@BendyBecky 2 жыл бұрын
As a white woman coming from a very white small community, it's shows and podcasts like these that help me better understand the black experience in America. Love this show.
@icanseeyou755
@icanseeyou755 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for wanting and actively seeking to understand.
@jrunnels04
@jrunnels04 2 жыл бұрын
Love this
@getoffmycashews3197
@getoffmycashews3197 2 жыл бұрын
Last time y’all wanted to “understand” us we ended up in chains stop tryna experience us and go talk to the ones who look like you to change things
@BendyBecky
@BendyBecky 2 жыл бұрын
@@getoffmycashews3197 Dang this comment is assuming a lot. Assuming I don't talk about it. I do. How do I talk about something I know nothing about. Oh that's right, by educating myself first.
@getoffmycashews3197
@getoffmycashews3197 2 жыл бұрын
@@BendyBecky it’s so many other nationalities why are you so interested in ours? Why not Mexicans Asians etc etc what makes white people so “interested” in black business
@monicaspigner4179
@monicaspigner4179 2 жыл бұрын
I have had that experience. I was pregnant with my youngest @ the time. I knew something was wrong. I was lucky though, it was the hospital staff that I had an issue with & not my actual doctor.I kept going to the hospital, they told me if I come back they would kick me out & request I get my prenatal care elsewhere. My doctor was out of town that week. Turns out I had something that could have caused a miscarriage. Turns out my doc has 7 daughters, so if a woman tells you something is wrong you better believe it. The staff that told me that he had them fired.
@Kick0a0cat
@Kick0a0cat 2 жыл бұрын
I applaud that doctor
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a black woman, and one of my motivations for leaving the States was the complete lack of empathy in the healthcare industry there. It's always bad in the South for black folks, but I also had unempathetic "care" outside of the South too. I had a condition so serious that it was debilitating and ended up requiring two major surgeries, but I got no help. I wasn't even seeking it, but I remember one of the doctor's looking at me coldly and saying, "I can't give you pain medication." They'd hang up on me when I tried to make an appointment; they wouldn't return my calls, etc. They wouldn't arrange for me to get things like an MRI without a lot of wrangling. They wouldn't let me arrange to see a specialist. Etc. Mind you, I was never annoying or rude. They just didn't care. Now that I live in Japan, I have national healthcare AND I can legitimately say that I've always been treated with kindness. I've gotten three major surgeries here and they like to keep you in the hospital a week afterwards and are always super kind and patient. Whereas I would just suffer in the States, now I go to the doctor/hospital for EVERY ailment. And I'm always treated like a human. Ironic that I can't even get that back home because, whether they'd admit it or not, they think we don't feel pain like they do (because they don't care if we feel pain like they do).
@getnkosi
@getnkosi 2 жыл бұрын
Beyond the scene has become my favorite part of the show. Thanks Roy!
@missyoungallday
@missyoungallday 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this conversation. As a BW who suffers from anxiety the corporate work space is very toxic at times. Setting boundaries and trying to explain my anxiety has always ended in me having "behavioral issues" and me being terminated. And that creates more anxiety of course.
@AngelaAngelicaWarren
@AngelaAngelicaWarren 2 жыл бұрын
Miss Young, Stop telling them you have anxiety. That's none of your employer's business. Don't give them ammunition to use against you. Truth be told, there are a whole lotta toxic sick sisters in Corporate. Particularly, sense many BW here came from single family homes and struggle life. Sometimes they are emotionally stunted and don't know to communicate well. They keep each other down. We don't know how to treat each other well, to have each other's back. Plus we're kissing up to other groups to be accepted. I enjoyed this podcast.
@Towiaetalks
@Towiaetalks 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this. I swear most TV shows about black women are always showing the struggle, no happiness, no fun scenes, it's always damaged and broken episodes. Like y'all we are also happy beings. Sigh!.
@LaChanceuse
@LaChanceuse 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, despite all that we have to deal with!
@sheldeon
@sheldeon 2 жыл бұрын
WITH HAPPY ENDINGS
@sherrisolomon8673
@sherrisolomon8673 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheldeon Happy endings too.
@Zeebo216
@Zeebo216 2 жыл бұрын
Like Tyler Perry…
@shottashabazz6721
@shottashabazz6721 2 жыл бұрын
Happy beings that hate BM but worship whte men. 👍🏾
@MistressDay
@MistressDay 2 жыл бұрын
The medical field is a mess. I complained about weird symptoms-headaches, dizziness, weakness- for years. Thinking aloud, I asked the physician. She told me, "well if it was lupus, you'd be in more pain than you're in now." Last year, while studying Islam, I started having those same exact symptoms. I walked into the ER with pain behind my eye and a severe headache that I put off for 10 days because it was so familiar. I threw on my little hijab and my heels and although she berated me for not keeping my routine appointment with the eye doctor. she did a cat scan and found that I had a huge brain bleed. I went to surgery that day. It could have been found years ago, had some of those doctors listened and acted.
@TNDCBaby
@TNDCBaby 2 жыл бұрын
Is the headache on and off or constant? I've had the issue for a while but mine is on and off but the same area and they're always acting like it's stress only.
@billithekat2742
@billithekat2742 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry they did not find it earlier. Why are they not taking us seriously? Do they think we go to the Emergency service for fun? …in Spain, doctors send everybody home with a Paracetamol. Or Ibuprofen. One of my coworkers went to the hospital at three in the night, because of pain i the abdomen, they gave her paracetamol and sent her home, -she walked home, a 40 minutes walk, in pain, at 4h in the morning, and the next morning at 10 o clock, her appendix broke.She needed emergency surgery. Another friend went to the doctor because she felt sick, her lungs hurt and she felt weak. Without any test, they gave her Paracetamol and sent her back to work, they did not even want to give her 1 day sick-leave. When she took the metro after work, she passed out, and the other passengers called an ambulance. It turned out she had a bad case of pneumonia.(happened before covid) And it goes on, i have heard many stories from friends not being taken seriously, but the two above could really have ended badly.... none of us is a person of colour, but I just realise we are all women.. I had to fight for years to get an MRI, due to my recurring back-pain, and the MRI finally showed I suffer from a recurring disc herniation. I got ibuprofen. I wonder if doctors would take our stories more seriously ,and believed how much pain we suffer, if we were men
@Zeebo216
@Zeebo216 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because they still see us as 3/5s
@FBombFitzgerald
@FBombFitzgerald 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zeebo216 What really highlighted this to me was when Serena freaking Williams' doctors didn't believe her during her pregnancy and she almost died. Yes she's a celebrity and an athlete and rich...but since she's still a black woman the doctors didn't believe her. Insanity.
@gregory5261
@gregory5261 2 жыл бұрын
@@TNDCBaby am a medical doctor , what area of head do you feel the pain ? And how often do experience the pains?
@MorganMingo70
@MorganMingo70 2 жыл бұрын
Not just in a community together, we see our brothers, partners and children when Black males are brutalized, But on the flip most Black men do not see themselves or their own when Black women are struggling. But this unfortunately extends to men in our own families as well! Sometimes my conversations with my father just make me even more grateful for my Grandmother having been there to counter his machismos attitude towards our issues!
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 2 жыл бұрын
Their ability to compartmentalize oppression to include mainly themselves can be downright scary and disheartening sometimes.
@romae6182
@romae6182 2 жыл бұрын
@@carrington2949 FACTS! That amazes me too.
@nikjonestravel
@nikjonestravel 2 жыл бұрын
This episode.... Whew, we are TIRED! This is a conversation that needed to be had
@AishaRaison
@AishaRaison 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to school, working, and constantly making sure that family and friends are okay. Then I had a breaking moment. Cried a lot. Even broke down in my boss's office. She was caring enough to give me a therapist and told me that I had the right to feel. That was a first in near 50 years. After I started seeing the therapist, my white girlfriend dismissed my feelings by calling it a "so-called breakdown"...she wanted to put a super cape on me, dismissing my feelings. Though I'm in a better space, I had to separate myself from her and others while I'm organizing my life. Boundaries are important. So important.
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you don't deal with your girlfriend anymore because she doesn't sound genuine nor empathetic.
@charnellrichardson124
@charnellrichardson124 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this podcast. My 3 friends and I have been discussing it for the last day and a half and realize we have to change and we have to change for not only us but for our daughters. I think we were all surprised on how deeply this hits home for us. Enough is enough we have to love ourselves and love each other.
@nmaope
@nmaope 2 жыл бұрын
Roy, I commend you for the delicate manner in which you handled this topic. Podcasting is certainly your calling.
@SharondaAllen
@SharondaAllen 2 жыл бұрын
I am a strong Black Woman. I have to be! I Can’t afford to fall apart when attacked. This stereotype is not a myth. Society does not give us any slack. Our tears don’t pull on heart strings. I am very grateful for my strength because when my victory comes, I will continue to be grateful for my resilience. There is no other way when we have to keep going.
@dennis771
@dennis771 2 жыл бұрын
You are 20 years behind
@SharondaAllen
@SharondaAllen 2 жыл бұрын
@@dennis771 you have a different reality. Your mates live a damsel life.
@KaiaMar
@KaiaMar 2 жыл бұрын
"What can I do to help?" That is the best thing to ask. ...and then follow through and actually do the thing.
@somebodycomelistentothispo7217
@somebodycomelistentothispo7217 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t want to have to be strong to exist in white spaces anymore. I’m tired. I just want to be soft and feminine like I am!! My last job made me never want to work around whites women again. I was the quietest, nicest person in the office and they came for me like a pack of wolves. It was so traumatic. BM have no idea what we go through as a result of their failure to protect,provide and build for us. These white women cussed at me in front of the owner when I was training and had no idea what I was doing, I stayed silent for over a year because I needed my job and it was 5 of them against me. My husband did nothing to help. I was on anxiety meds and drinking because of it.
@tiffanymclymore
@tiffanymclymore 2 жыл бұрын
Many black men are singularly concerned about access to ww. The only thing they ever fought for.
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
I was verbally attacked by a white female colleague (who even went so far as to threaten me even though I'd not done anything to her -- I think she'd just been stewing in the fact that I wasn't responding to her bullying) right in front of the white male manager and he did nothing. Nothing but say "Back to work" when SHE was finished. And they didn't fire her or anything. They couldn't care less about our feelings.
@shottashabazz6721
@shottashabazz6721 2 жыл бұрын
You just had to throw a few jabs at black men didn’t you. If your wig catches on fire in a rain storm that’s a black man’s fault to isn’t it?
@MorganMingo70
@MorganMingo70 2 жыл бұрын
I LOOOOVED EVERYTHING about Harlem! I put it off for a couple of weeks fearing that it would be full of stereotypes, but I was wrong; It was a breath of fresh air.
@BarLadyy
@BarLadyy 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@MirageAtPlay
@MirageAtPlay 2 жыл бұрын
I was told in 4th grade that i representated black people and need to behave accordingly. By my teacher. It was very formative and horrible pressure that I put on myself for years. It hurts.
@sadie1606
@sadie1606 2 жыл бұрын
I might be overly sensitive but this comment made me cry. Why would someone say that to anyone, much less a little child?? That's so horrible 😓 You deserved better than that.
@emmacoleman4644
@emmacoleman4644 2 жыл бұрын
oh honey
@maljalcol
@maljalcol 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it horrible pressure?
@mrb2643
@mrb2643 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we represent our ethnicity like it or not judged by many, takes a bigger person to separate the individual from the group or issue and also not base things on Primary factors like race religion or gender
@zhig11
@zhig11 2 жыл бұрын
That is so much pressure. As a white woman I have never felt the weight of upholding an entire race. I can't imagine the pressure you have felt. I am so sorry that wax placed on you.
@blackberry4life482
@blackberry4life482 2 жыл бұрын
But they have been seeing us as a thing. They see our children as adults. They don’t see our frailty, our fears, our innocence, our joys, our congratulatory moments. And they don’t want to!
@TheTrulyTracyT
@TheTrulyTracyT 2 жыл бұрын
Harlem was excellent and accurately addressed many of the issues Black women face.
@vinniemascaro6649
@vinniemascaro6649 2 жыл бұрын
Harlem is written by a black crew. That's like conflict of interest to the 1000 degree
@blackberry4life482
@blackberry4life482 2 жыл бұрын
I say that all the time.😀 Men need to be invested in the women in their families and communities. We need their help and support the same way we help and support. And it creates the atmosphere for partnership and branding.
@aibeginnertutorials
@aibeginnertutorials 2 жыл бұрын
We need more of these discussions. Insightful and healing. Thank you!
@stringer2295
@stringer2295 2 жыл бұрын
The grand crew on nbc is a black show that just shows black people living everyday life. It’s not perfect, it’s only had one season but fleshing it out more and adding a couple more writers might make it better
@i_am_aash
@i_am_aash 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes dispalying weakness seems inevitable...and that's heartbreaking...
@JinxedJoker
@JinxedJoker 2 жыл бұрын
Why? Showing weakness isn't a fault, it's a normal part of the human experience. What's heartbreaking is those who fight and deny it because they don't feel they are allowed to feel and express their weakness.
@aibeginnertutorials
@aibeginnertutorials 2 жыл бұрын
Truly excellent as always. Thank you, Roy, Chelsea, and Tracy!
@mccbern06
@mccbern06 2 жыл бұрын
I am a confident black woman who is respectful of ALL PEOPLE! But, if someone disrespects me, I will, in a firm matter correct them immediately! It may or may not be polite... I don't care WHO THE PERSON IS! Of course, we all have to work, but no one deserves to be outright disrespected under no circumstances or due to microaggressions!! No job is worth your dignity or draining of your Mental Health!
@createmillionairemind
@createmillionairemind 2 жыл бұрын
I nearly cancelled my Prime membership until I heard ya’ll talk about Harlem on Prime. Thanks!
@monettemoradi
@monettemoradi 2 жыл бұрын
Abbot Elementary has a maternal black character that is doing a great job at deconstructing the trope. She has her vulnerability and gets jokes in as well
@missjammehvishishdoll5907
@missjammehvishishdoll5907 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting.
@ShaGemDropper
@ShaGemDropper 2 жыл бұрын
This was a conversation that needs to get out to the MASSES!!
@LorraDeluxe
@LorraDeluxe 2 жыл бұрын
This was very insightful and full of empathy. Thank you!
@TV-fl9ul
@TV-fl9ul 2 жыл бұрын
"Strong Black Woman" phrase is a BURDEN. Some people even feel the "strong. Black. woman." doesn't need a man
@V4Now
@V4Now 2 жыл бұрын
Some? It's become a catch phrase leading to single parent hood
@sseraphim2818
@sseraphim2818 2 жыл бұрын
@@V4Now That is a lie. Point blank period. Single parent hood occurs because a multitude of reasons, not because of the"strong black woman". This is misogynoir plain and simple.
@V4Now
@V4Now 2 жыл бұрын
@@sseraphim2818 there's a video of a bunch of single mothers in high school from the 80s outwardly saying they don't need men to raise their kids. And there's several more videos saying their kids don't need there dads than not. And it's more then you'll ever have.
@kingfestus
@kingfestus 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks this Show was an Amazing Show ❤️🤩 Love from Kenya 🇰🇪 😌
@JinxedJoker
@JinxedJoker 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm Roy, that whole 'ignoring the pain and trying to solve the problem' thing is not specifically a black man problem, that's just a (raised as a) man problem.
@RobertClaeson
@RobertClaeson 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. When bad things happen, I do despair for a few seconds, then suddenly becomes very determined, quickly begin planning towards rectifying the issue and begin executing that plan. My (black) wife always wonder how I can be so determined in light of trouble. I just realise that dwelling in the trouble doesn't solve anything, and I better begin working towards getting rid of the issue. Life's too short for anything else than ignoring the pain and trying to solve the problem.
@amorosogombe9650
@amorosogombe9650 2 жыл бұрын
People confuse strong and mean. That's the problem. Being mean isn't being strong.
@sseraphim2818
@sseraphim2818 2 жыл бұрын
So, black women are mean now?
@amorosogombe9650
@amorosogombe9650 2 жыл бұрын
@@sseraphim2818 Huh? I said people confuse strong and mean. It's not a race or gender thing.
@cocaina4870
@cocaina4870 2 жыл бұрын
So true!
@racheljones4561
@racheljones4561 2 жыл бұрын
Well society is mean to black women.
@amorosogombe9650
@amorosogombe9650 2 жыл бұрын
@@racheljones4561 So being rude, hostile and obnoxious, to people whom you have never met and whom have never done you any wrong, is the answer? 💁🏿‍♂️
@rodgeryoung2040
@rodgeryoung2040 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great conversation. Very enlightening. Thank you for sharing.
@venusluv-i1v
@venusluv-i1v 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the type of household I was in my mother expected me to be strong. I was always really sensitive, but people around me would never know because my mother pushed for me to have a tough outer skin. But the moment I go home I end up crying about things I didn't address. I'm glad we are trying to dissect it nowadays for the new generation.
@nicoler.wunderink_2874
@nicoler.wunderink_2874 2 жыл бұрын
We owe black women more than this.
@crttsome7504
@crttsome7504 2 жыл бұрын
What? You do. Not everyone else.
@itiswhatitis4566
@itiswhatitis4566 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the term ‘strong Black woman’ was first termed verbally by Black women, but it has been visibly and overtly manifested throughout American history by other non-Black cultures. American Black women have been viewed as ‘work horses/mules’ that don’t get tired or aren’t entitled to get tired..almost animalistic in a derogatory sense. It’s been expected that Black women are to be selfless and take care of everyone’s needs in society but her own. Give birth on Saturday, back to the fields on Monday, and the breast milk meant for her baby went to other’s children. It’s been the same throughout history when she was left to scrub floors and take care of other’s children, walk home at dark, and still have to take of her own children while assuming the role of a single but married parent. Whenever we’ve attained some degree of authority, we still don’t get the manpower to help us unlike our counterparts. So this stereotype was forced on us because our children would suffer if we became as selfish as others. Period!
@ariannaturtles6489
@ariannaturtles6489 2 жыл бұрын
I've had people tell me I'm not the "black" that they wanted and that they're kinda disappointed. They thought I would be the strong black woman type that gives the pep talks and what not.
@titagee305
@titagee305 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode so much! While Roy does have his comedic moments, the questions were very insightful. Great job all.
@tylerhackner9731
@tylerhackner9731 2 жыл бұрын
People don’t always have to be strong
@misspat7555
@misspat7555 2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t weak to cry anymore than it is to throw up or have diarrhea. Sometimes something in us needs to come out in a forceful, messy way, and is an indication we need some support and care. We all have a need to feel strong and competent sometimes; we also all have a need to feel loved and safe sometimes. And that has nothing to do with our skin color or what’s between our legs. 🤷‍♀️
@ethannicolazdavidson6674
@ethannicolazdavidson6674 2 жыл бұрын
Not me, I feel strong all the time. Feelings are for wimps
@kakaololisco3106
@kakaololisco3106 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this interview that was really uplifting 💗
@jamilajones8328
@jamilajones8328 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy these segments so much! This one is the best so far. A thoroughly thought-provoking discussion. I always have to carve out time for these segments so I can give it my full attention. The sleep church poses an interesting idea: self care as a radical act, and in the face of living with this trope, I am TIRED. To think about the history of medicine and how little we have come as a society... the rates of forced sterilization, the lack of maternal care, not to mention mental health, is it any wonder that we suffer from higher rates of incidence for autoimmune and stress related disorders / diseases ?
@blackberry4life482
@blackberry4life482 2 жыл бұрын
We keep each other lifted as we climb. We keep each other lifted up in prayer and support in many ways, as we climb. Nothing wrong with when put in proper context.
@EbonyJoneskuye
@EbonyJoneskuye 2 жыл бұрын
I carried that strong black woman mentality into my marriage and it damaged it. He felt I belittled him and perceived like I didn't need him.
@EmmaEffa
@EmmaEffa 2 жыл бұрын
This episode means so much to me. The myriad of ways in which beautiful being labeled the strong black woman has cost me is overwhelming. The only saving grace is the fact that I use my journey to fuel my creative work. I am making a film on this exact subject matter. I love how Roy facilitated this conversation with respect, humor and grace. Trevor’s team is phenomenal.
@amehka5416
@amehka5416 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome and informative conversation.
@deirdrechilds2288
@deirdrechilds2288 2 жыл бұрын
Much needed conversation 😌
@dont_bother_me_kid
@dont_bother_me_kid 2 жыл бұрын
Yes to all of this, beyond the scenes is my church, a church of enlightenment. ❤️
@justine9047
@justine9047 2 жыл бұрын
"emotional pack mules" - exactly IT!
@breeskilove4817
@breeskilove4817 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this conversation. So needed. Loading Harlem now.
@sheawilliamvanderpoort5472
@sheawilliamvanderpoort5472 2 жыл бұрын
Tracy Oliver is THE TRUTH! Yeeeessss 🙌🏽❤️❤️❤️
@lanelledwards2225
@lanelledwards2225 2 жыл бұрын
I think patience is key 🔑. Don't expect me trust you immediately. I have been hurt too much for me not to expect the stove to be hot.
@kjb739
@kjb739 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes men, just don't seem to care. Our feelings are discounted as overreacting, making something out of nothing, or any version of that. If it doesn't make them upset, then they don't see why we should be upset. You know the phrase, "why are you trippin?" After dealing with that lack of empathy so many times, we just shut down and either don't show emotion or just deal with it ourselves. All this extra stress does is lead to more medical problems such as strokes, heart attacks, and obesity (not taking care of ourselves) and in turn causes early deaths for black women. I was married and now divorced from a white man that treated me this way, so yes all races can treat the woman they're "supposed to love" like this.
@becomingachristian
@becomingachristian 2 жыл бұрын
It’s great these topics are being covered on television. The clips from her show aren’t really my kind of show and the writing doesn’t really speak to me but it’s so important these topics are covered and I really hope more writers will approach these topics especially of shows styles that i watch because I think it would be great for these messages to reach a wider and wider audience.
@heathertea2704
@heathertea2704 2 жыл бұрын
Our EXISTENCE is not 4 Pain or as an Entity of Strength. We're NOT Infallible. Black females are Individuals, with a Singular path, even when others expect & or have Demanded the Opposite.
@TheEmbrio
@TheEmbrio 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard enough being a white woman constantly overlooked (health, work, family....), hearing it’s even harder for black women means it’s at an unimaginable level...
@88ashjen
@88ashjen 2 жыл бұрын
Really?! I would put white women at the bottom of struggling. Not that y’all don’t struggle but thinking it was worse than all other women is crazy. I would say next to black women indigenous women struggle. I can see your struggle is being a women as all of us women deal with but a white women is the so called standard.
@ISeeYouComeBackToMe
@ISeeYouComeBackToMe 2 жыл бұрын
@@88ashjen ☝This right here.
@LadyAstarionAncunin
@LadyAstarionAncunin 2 жыл бұрын
You're getting it from two sides: being a woman and being black. And a lot of people don't help even in the "community." There are constantly conversations about how black men expect black women to march and put our capes on but don't support us in daily life. And they even disparage us and contrast us negatively against non-black women, saying we're manly even though we're forced into less feminine roles due to abandonment. And there are black women who are self-hating as well. You have to fight multiple battles just to get through the day. And if you're attacked in public, you can't expect anyone to help you, not even another black person (especially not a black man -- there are countless stories of them just standing by and letting it happen or even seeming to enjoy the humiliation or being the source of the humiliation). The most frustrating thing of all is when black women say, "Okay" and do our own thing, we have to get attacked with people wanting to assign our accomplishments to "all women," disregarding the uniquely difficult road it takes for us to accomplish anything. No one wants us to have anything! Except pain. It's annoying and tiring. So, I just mind my own business. I don't have the will to deal with the nonsense.
@SR-dy5zm
@SR-dy5zm 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful conversation as always. This white male thanks you for sharing this education. We all gotta listen.
@ivybee347
@ivybee347 2 жыл бұрын
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia about 2 years ago and its hard to get anyone to understand that other a not a viable disease. So apparently I'm being dramatic or extra ans people ignore .e when I say I can't do something or eat something because ot triggers symptoms. I haven't identified all of my triggers but it took a while to identify those triggers...... only to be ignored because you can't physically see it.
@glenn-younger
@glenn-younger 2 жыл бұрын
Hey CHELSEA WILLIAMSON or ROY WOOD JR... don't know if you'll read this, but is there something you can do to turn on the Daily Show KZbin videos in Italy? When I try to watch them, it says the show has made them unavailable in my country. I'm glad this one was turned on for us over here. Thank you.
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 2 жыл бұрын
It hurts to not be able to show that you are hurt. Sometimes I wish I had just a touch of sociopathy in me. 🤔
@cruzpaez8047
@cruzpaez8047 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's deep. 💜
@sadie1606
@sadie1606 2 жыл бұрын
I started crying at the first clip of Harlem. That hit home hard. I feel like it's a similar experience in the Latina community, but I dont know if its a sterotype more an enforced part of our identity from our own community. We're not allowed to cry or be overly angry, we should be stoic and take care of our families. Put their problems first, then put the community after. Ourselves is the last person we're suppose to care for. We're just caretakers and its like we're not allowed to talk about our problems and thats where the burnt out angry latina comes from. We cant feel any emotion but anger or we're crazy and over the top. I know its not quite the same especially cause colorism still is prevelent and the lack of medical care is due to the sterotype of addiction and being drug dealers (in the latinx community especially women for some reason) rather than being a strong person (It may also be the same kind of reason as well for the Black, I forgot thats a sterotype between both our communities). All this to say, I cried and I needed to permission tbh so thank you, I love you ladies, you're amazing 💖
@AnonymousPersonAP
@AnonymousPersonAP 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like you are describing a mother. All cultures strive for strong women and especially mothers.
@somebodycomelistentothispo7217
@somebodycomelistentothispo7217 2 жыл бұрын
The Patriarchy is toxic and has taught us that women are to be slaves and assume the responsibilities of both sexes and the men don’t. This is why WW started feminism so they could do what they wanted. They were tired of being in the house being treated like trash so their men allowed them to work until they got enough money to not need them anymore 🤣
@MrUniq
@MrUniq 2 жыл бұрын
No cap…my wife is a strong black woman but at the same time she’ll definitely tell you she couldn’t have gotten where she is without us moving as a unit. She has never shunned or invalidated me as a man.
@lolitafalana
@lolitafalana 2 жыл бұрын
Wooo... Finding and maintaining an advocate in the workplace is rarer than diamonds. That's something I've been needing because based on anecdotal experience--both my own and others'--there's really no space to be anything other than strong in the workplace, and it's so rare to find a company, manager and team that wants to pour into you as much as you pour into it. I have more people building growing and building in their career off the back of my work while I stay stuck in the same position. It's frustrating to be not only routinely undermined, but also provoked.
@ahamed6702
@ahamed6702 2 жыл бұрын
"Alot of crickets" when it comes to Black women's problems. Yes! WE need to uplift each other in a major way!!
@Mack462
@Mack462 2 жыл бұрын
Great interview!
@jayvee2656
@jayvee2656 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this episode
@oliviakboateng
@oliviakboateng 2 жыл бұрын
Love this from the Daily Show!!!
@gabbymclovin6357
@gabbymclovin6357 2 жыл бұрын
This is really something to study. Honestly, my favorite podcast.
@eugeniesimms9033
@eugeniesimms9033 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video.
@jordanb7144
@jordanb7144 2 жыл бұрын
Why when Tracy talked about voicing her needs in a relationship I thought about that meme. “What do you want? It’s not that simple. What do you want?!” 😂🤣 I’m sorry.
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 2 жыл бұрын
Roy, I like I can really see you instead of the stereotypical portrayals of you as a black man.
@glenn-younger
@glenn-younger 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing this. There are so many jewels of humanity in this conversation for people of all colors, plus it gives insights to what issues the black culture is facing. @35:40 Men vs women: Men try to "ignore the pain and try to solve the problem." That's pretty universal. They didn't talk about the flip side of what women have a tendency to do. That would've been interesting to hear their perceptions. "What are the ways that we can extend grace to others?" Great question that both sexes can ask, regardless of culture. AND... hahaha!... Nap Church. "I'm going to join that church 'cos then I can nap at work and they can't fire me because it's my religion." Those were my take-aways. What are yours?
@Akilahfoye
@Akilahfoye 2 жыл бұрын
Men also have to be careful how they offer help to women in the workplace. Some ladies may read it as harassment unfortunately...
@Yolodiane
@Yolodiane 2 жыл бұрын
Great show and I learned a lot from your prospective
@StewChicken42
@StewChicken42 2 жыл бұрын
GIRLS TRIP!? THAT WAS HILARIOUS! Credit to her! Thank you for that awesome movie! Also introduced me/us to Tiff Hadd :>
@Ashia49
@Ashia49 2 жыл бұрын
I love these shows
@AfreekaLIVE
@AfreekaLIVE 2 жыл бұрын
awesome conversation!!!
@dama_shares
@dama_shares 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank You So Much. These points are so valid.
@Kick0a0cat
@Kick0a0cat 2 жыл бұрын
Chelsea's eyebrows, I have serious eyebrow envy
@mkilptrick
@mkilptrick 2 жыл бұрын
It is a lesson of judging people according to stereotype vs. judging them according to individual qualities. Stereotypes are for the less learned where little work is involved. White this black that is a stereotype behavior that goes counter to achieving equality if there is such a thing.
@ericboswell8863
@ericboswell8863 2 жыл бұрын
I never looked at it like that..I can definitely understand why Black Females/Women feel this way.. 😥🤬
@tiffanyevans8084
@tiffanyevans8084 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Beyond the Scenes...and I think one of the best things a man can do for women is to get their stuff together. Take stock of you, deal with you and then check on/aid me. Just like we tell women 'you can't pour from an empty cup" the same goes for men.
@ExTriv
@ExTriv 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this show I have a new TV show to watch. I love this show! 👍🏿✊🏿
@sandrar852
@sandrar852 2 жыл бұрын
Something that has become increasingly clear to me is that we need to redefine what we call strength. The assumption right now is that strength means to never break. Strength is not about never breaking, in fact, I posit that sometimes it is revealed when we break down and learn to put the pieces back together. But as long as we define strength as a purely masculine trait that involves the ability to not break, then we will continue to see a denial of our femininity...there is a lot more to be said and I am only addressing a single nuance of this issue. It is much more complex than what I stated here
@bobcharlie2337
@bobcharlie2337 2 жыл бұрын
Literally!! Really interesting.
@roots4140
@roots4140 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic.
@audioacc
@audioacc 2 жыл бұрын
Oh ok! So that’s the trope that Queen Latifah keeps on playing in movies……. I noticed something but couldn’t put my finger on it.
@jai0204
@jai0204 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate all of you blessings 🙌 🙏 ✨️
@buffaloniceguy7823
@buffaloniceguy7823 2 жыл бұрын
I love the "Strong Black Woman" I've been married to for 30 years! ❤❤
@sacredflowspace
@sacredflowspace 2 жыл бұрын
Shooooooo she earned her drinks 🍹 ☀️♾🖤🙏yassssssssss gurl get it love this sooo much thank u guys much needed
@martavillanueva1062
@martavillanueva1062 2 жыл бұрын
Roy researching how to get brownie points, LOL.
@braunsteinfreres8930
@braunsteinfreres8930 2 жыл бұрын
37:05 He did that one voice perfect XD!!!
@annec8127
@annec8127 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Roy, Chelsea, and Tracy (and TDS). This felt like a show that started off on the surface and then really dove deep. Your work is greatly appreciated! I noticed, even before this video, that Mia on The Morning Show season 2 is almost being stereotyped as a SBW, but the difference is that we are being allowed to see she is struggling with keeping her cool. (Justifiably so...)
@Raven-ug8uw
@Raven-ug8uw 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get how the strong black woman stereotype is a ''counter" to the Jezebel, mammie and Sapphire. O, I get now. U mean offered as an alternative to those stereotypes, portrayal of black women as competent. At all times, competent.
@thehoneyeffect
@thehoneyeffect 2 жыл бұрын
They shouldve had a dark skinned Black woman on this panel
@upcloselife
@upcloselife 2 жыл бұрын
Black shows like Southside, Abbott Elementary, Grand Crew and some of the best current sitcoms out.
@johnnycreighton29
@johnnycreighton29 2 жыл бұрын
Listening...
@blacktinkerbell2324
@blacktinkerbell2324 2 жыл бұрын
Men come at me hard at work. Not only am I black but I'm so tall. I get called out and accused all the time.
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