DISSONANT/ATONAL GUITAR PLAYERS:VIEWER'S CHOICE

[@banjoyogurt1798]

John Fahey used both avant-garde classical music and indian raga as an inspiration, i think that is song The Waltz That Carried Us Away and Then A Mosquito Came and Ate Up My Sweetheart is one of the most strange and dissonant solo guitar pieces ever

[@wallac11]

Love John Fahey

[@oscarpinho9828]

Excellent list! There's a couple of guitarrists that came to my mind that are missing from your lists, even if they are quite comprehensive: one is the Zoogz Rift (an american weirdo who should be quite aclaimed but unfortunatly is very unknown) and the other one is Elliot Sharp (this one surprised me that is not mentioned here - he is a monster).

[@wallac11]

Two amazing choices

[@DanielSClouser]

Good thing Henry Kaiser has those special frets that let you hit your notes more exactly because it sounds like he really is all about hitting exactly the right note

[@wallac11]

He is an amazing player

[@WizardofFuzz]

😆

[@acornsonata]

Let’s not forget Bruce Anderson from MX80 Sound.

[@stevendimmock4791]

A minnow trying to swim with salmon.

[@solitaryman777]

@@stevendimmock4791 in which case, there's quite a few minnows in this vid

[@wallac11]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6nMgISpbKtnlck

[@acornsonata]

@ funny , I somehow forgot i watched that while I typed about Bruce Anderson and MX80. It must have planted the seed though . I also knew Bruce and played with him on several occasions .

[@Xylus.]

This video was a great way to thank viewers and highlight even more wonderful musicians. Its always fun finding the artists that "color outside the lines" so to speak. Looking forward to more great videos!

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@hamupinhere]

As an aside here, I love your intro. It reminds me of a video I used to have favorited on here called "Zorn Against Neoliberalism" and it was the music of John Zorn (I think it was something from "Improvised Music New York") set to split-second violent, blood & gore-soaked imagery of 60's/70's Hollywood gangster films, Italian horror/giallo etc. I don't know what happened to that video, but I miss it.

[@wallac11]

That video sounds awesome. Thanks for watching

[@IndolenceIncK]

Just found your channel this past week--great stuff man!

[@wallac11]

Thank you for watching. Please check out my other videos.

[@tombarnes7846]

Was hoping to see Sonny Sharrock and James "Blood" Ulmer get a mention.

[@alfonsomango_suyu]

I think he was included in the previous video

[@wallac11]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKm6nIVubJyspbM

[@tombarnes7846]

@@wallac11 thanks.

[@Xcalator35]

What a great idea!!! This is producer-viewer interaction at its best!!! The list shows the quality of your audience (and I am NOT including myself in that set, ok?). You're gonna take of James!!!

[@wallac11]

Thank you for supporting my channel

[@seivadmj]

I really enjoyed both videos. Derek Bailey, Fred Frith, and Henry Kaiser were all crucial to any list of experimental guitar players, and I was delighted to see Kiko Dinucci get a look in. Hans Reichel was unfortunately missing here but he probably also deserves his own video, given the range of his artistic endeavours. Thanks for the vids. If you like experimental guitar, you could make a video about the three volumes of Guitar Solos - the first one was only Fred Frith, but many of the musicians you included here showed up on volumes 2 and 3. How these three records came to be and their impact - or lack of influence, given the quality of the musicians - would be worth exploring.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for the idea and watching the video

[@houseofquiet]

Hell yeah Keith Rowe. Great list and very interesting. Great humility to say fair enough and learn from it. Everything is a learning experience and I think you've done a brilliant job. Well done!

[@wallac11]

Thank you for watching

[@Cankersaurus]

This was a nice idea. The audio clips you've been adding to the vids really elevate them.

[@wallac11]

Thank for watching and supporting my channel.

[@deaconddd]

Great additions on this one from the viewers! More channels should do this. Would’ve loved to see Bill Orcutt, Luis Lopes,Noel Ackchote , Eivind Aarset, Terrance McManus on this list also.

[@wallac11]

Great choices

[@waltersmetak]

Woe, you really dug in quite deep! Amazing! Even got Kiko "Samba Sujo" Dinucci on the list! And the late Snakefinger, who I haven't heard since the 80s! Lost in my memory from the time I was a Ralph Records aficionado! Great work! Keep it up!!!!

[@solitaryman777]

Snakefinger flew beneath the radar then, and has been dead for an awfully long time, and that contributes to his obscurity. Saw a show in a small club in Chicago, and he pulled some twisted sounds out of his gtr. A shame he died so young.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for the support and watching my video

[@TUN3RCOM]

I like how you turned this viewer feedback into a musical buffet. Much of this is an acquired taste, but these guys instantly sounded good to my ear and are now in my playlist. Always good to find new music. Keiji Haino Keith Levene Fredrik Thordendal Bill Frissell --- Also, not sure if you mentioned Pig Face? They did some dissonant atonal stuff.

[@wallac11]

Love Pig Face! Thanks for watching.

[@davestagner]

Excellent list! Great to see so many of my critical perceived gaps from the last one filled!

[@wallac11]

Thank you for watching

[@MattH-c2z]

If anyone is interested in atonal/dissonant/left-field and experimental playing, you should look up and listen to the "$100 guitar project" album

[@wallac11]

Cool

[@jeremyacton4569]

I enjoyed the first Atonal Video. You raised a debate and tapped into the collective knowledge of commenters, and this new video opens sonic doors for all of us to explore. I would like add 3 further suggestions: Jandek. Loren Connors. John Fahey.

[@wallac11]

Don't know Connors. Love Jandek and John Fahey

[@brianw7502]

Derek Bailey is the guitarist that is closest to Atonal music. Dissonance perception changes with time. Beatles and Black Sabbath were both thought of as dissonant when they first came out.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@jeffxpmdisc]

Great! Gonna check out some i don't know. Would add Sonny Sharrock, Terje Rypdal, Caspar Brotzmann.

[@wallac11]

See part 1

[@johnmcintosh7784]

Anything with jazz metal and classical will have lots of examples of a dissonant style of music. The only ones here I recognize are Frank Zappa Vernon Reid, buckethead, shawn lane, john ambercrombie and alan holdsworth,

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@mk-cx7ov]

Hans Reichel, David Tronzo, Michael Belfer, Viv Albertine, Peter Creese, Joe Gore, Steven Mackey, Nick Didkovsky

[@wallac11]

Amazing choices

[@snooz64]

Ok, now Geordie is here. And you even picked one of his best riffs. Good ! The guy influenced so many players and style, it was a crime not to mention him.

[@solitaryman777]

When Jimmy Page himself heaps praise on ya, you know you got something

[@jackperri3186]

What song is the riff from? It’s awesome!

[@snooz64]

@@jackperri3186 Intravenous from the Extremities, Dirt And Various Repressed Emotions album. The entire song is a collection of incredible riffs. Well, the entire album in fact.

[@Mactatio]

@@snooz64 I'm a huge KJ fan. Extremities will always be my favourite.

[@snooz64]

@@Mactatio Same here ! KJ fan and Extremities is my favourite. Such a great album... sadly often forgotten when people mention KJ best work.

[@SteveR63]

Well done my friend. You've given me lots of new rabbit holes to go down. Thanks for including Chadbourne, and Helios. And if you do another one of these, I'd again suggest Richard Bishop of the sun city girls, and Trey Spruance of secret chiefs three, and Nils Frykdahl of sleepytime gorilla museum. Thanks

[@wallac11]

Cool, thanks

[@johnbaker542]

Got a whole lot more to explore now. Thank you for making these 2 noise guitar videos. 👍

[@wallac11]

My pleasure

[@MistahZeus]

That was AWESOME dude! I hope you're going to have a Part 2 because there's still more guitarists that fall under this catogory. Great job though!

[@wallac11]

Thank you for the support

[@frankfellhauer5136]

My favourit guitarists are Buckethead, Shawn Lane Allan Holdsworth and Henry Kaiser when it comes to Atonal playing

[@wallac11]

Amazing players

[@Johnnysmithy24]

Buckethead and Shawn Lane are my two favorites

[@stephanvenner2939]

I would also mention Andy Gill and Daniel Ash.

[@wallac11]

Love Gang of Four and Bauhaus

[@GCSoundArtifacts]

Thanks for the inclusion of my suggestions! There are certain names I wasn't aware of and I am going to look at them. I could have even mentioned some more other ones. I could, even, have quoted myself in this list, but I don't want to let my ego fly...

[@wallac11]

I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching.

[@UnitedEffect]

Just discovered your channel tonight. I can really appreciate it! I enjoy the music of all of these guitar players... and then some! Liked & subbed! Will be sharing as well.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for the support

[@UnitedEffect]

@@wallac11 It's my pleasure!

[@TheAnadrome]

Excellent idea James. Looks like your channel is starting to get discovered! Keep going!

[@wallac11]

Thanks Byrne

[@Mactatio]

Starting to look like a very exhaustive list! If I may add a few others: Loren Connors and Elliott Sharp (USA), Oren Ambarchi (Australia), and René Lussier (Québec). Also: Norman Westberg (SWANS), Justin Broadrick (Godflesh), Stephen O'Malley (Sunn O))), Khanate) Chris Reed (Red Lorry Yellow Lorry), Jim Jarmusch and David Lynch (both film directors that play guitar), There's also a bunch of guitarists in the Dissonant Death Metal, Dissonant Black Metal, and Noise Rock genres.

[@wallac11]

Great selection of players and directors.

[@stevendimmock4791]

and everything from the last couple of years. And in their record collection you will find throbbing gristle albums, but these fakers will claim they've never heard of them. Phoneys.

[@waltersmetak]

Very nice addition! Oren is brilliant! Didn't know that Lynch played the guitar!

[@Mactatio]

@@waltersmetak Thanks! Lynch has released a few albums, calls his style “avant-blues” 😅

[@faunoram]

Wow !! Amazing video response !! Lots of crazy guitar players I didnt know and some of them Ive already knew. Sure I will check them all to see if i find something I like !! Cheers !!

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@davidscher4303]

Bern Nix, Douglas Henderson with DAVID SCHER, Steve Gnitka with Milo Fine,

[@SVNG77]

Very nice list, lot of players Ive surprisingly never heard and now have a lot of stuff I genuinely wanna check out. Which is something I dont say much of these days Been binge watching these vids, wish more music channels were like this instead of giving fake "reactions"

[@wallac11]

Not a fan of the reaction channels. Thanks for watching

[@guzmanhc]

Great series of videos. I'm surprised Marc Ducret hasn't been mentioned, or maybe I missed him. An excellent guitar player and composer in my opinion

[@wallac11]

I need to check him out

[@matthewcurran5669]

Another great episode!

[@wallac11]

Thank you

[@officialpierluk]

Love the idea of fan list with some snippets its really coool and sweet .. more interesting players to discover I was wonderin if adrien belew had been suggested enough after i did and there he was at the very start hehe anyway have a nice holidays cheers

[@wallac11]

You too. Thanks for watching

[@Mister_Jahn]

Great stuff, obviously this channel has great viewers too. Just found you, excellent.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@Mister_Jahn]

@wallac11 I'm doing some things you might find compelling.

[@jfdblues]

Steve Albini

[@wallac11]

Love Big Black and Shellac

[@CuebogoW]

Chris Whitley on Din of Ecstasy LP. No one talks about him in general, very underatted imo. Uses some odd chords and tunings,plays a resonator guitar through distortion so also a unique tone

[@wallac11]

Need to check out that album

[@CuebogoW]

Anyone mention Dr Know from Bad Brains. Nice list good to see hellos creed etc.trying to think of ones u missed theres not many

[@wallac11]

Love Bad Brains

[@rockitmorton]

Never heard of Ollie Halsall, he sounded awsome.

[@freddymodad5431]

Boxer was his band. Also John Hiestmans Tempest

[@AnthonyMonaghan]

@@freddymodad5431 Patto and Timebox and Kevin Ayers also. A wonderful musician.

[@geraldfriend256]

Some crazy shred with unreal note choices waaay before Van Halen

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@ChrisUK5150]

Good starting points for Ollie are Patto's Loud Green Song, Give it All Away, Air Raid Shelter and the live version of Teachers. He was briefly in Tempest with Allan Holdsworth and there's a BBC live recording of a gig with both of them thats also worth checking out.

[@davidespinosa1910]

Music starts at 2:30

[@greedo69]

you might be interested in some of my work. i play a very off kilter, out there kind of alien sound. always trying to get myself out there yk

[@wallac11]

Cool

[@schizophreniagaming4058]

Loved that Omar Rodriguez Lopez was on here, but you did forget one of my all time favs, Ben Weinman of The Dillinger Escape Plan. He’s a fucking AWESOME guitarist that can do some wild shit with the Locrian scale

[@wallac11]

Dillinger Escape Plan are amazing.

[@schizophreniagaming4058]

@ “TAKE A BOW, YOU EARNED IT EAT SHIT, YOU DESERVE IT” 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@alfonsomango_suyu]

That Henry Kaiser uses the same "detuned" effect of Mary Halvorson

[@wallac11]

Cool

[@bernmahan1162]

Mr Bailey absolutely! Also Hugh Metcalfe... Tabata Mitsuru... Eugene Chadbourne.

[@wallac11]

Great players

[@JohnSmithiuyytw]

Nice. How about the dude in Tom Waits ' band.

[@wallac11]

See the first video

[@Passion535]

I saw a couple Great guitar players in there! One is called the greatest!! Not quite understanding what this is all about. Some sounded like they start playing guitar yesterday?

[@evantheeggplant6164]

Richard benson

[@mikerophone235]

Solmania/Diesel Guitar/High Rise ( Munehiro Narita). Lots of good stuff here though. Thanks

[@wallac11]

Thanks for watching

[@jfdblues]

Zoot Horn Rolo

[@wallac11]

Love Beefheart

[@nickthabit420]

What about Lydia Lunch, and China Burg of Mars?

[@wallac11]

No Wave!

[@thelaughingeyes6686]

Haven’t watched it all the way yet or the other video so feel free to roast me if he’s in here or there, but for me it will always be Jojo Hiroshige from Hijokaidan!

[@wallac11]

Didn't include him sorry

[@CuebogoW]

Cosey Fanni Tutti from Throbbing Gristle?

[@wallac11]

Love Throbbing Gristle

[@Grisu.]

no Steve Albini?

[@wallac11]

Love Big Black and Shellac

[@bhhNC]

Bravo!

[@wallac11]

Thank you

[@BFry-l2n]

Great mention of piggy man!

[@wallac11]

As a Canadian, I am required to

[@tysonbrinacombe]

No Syd Barrett? Or did i miss him in part 1?

[@tysonbrinacombe]

Great Videos!

[@wallac11]

Thank you

[@CuebogoW]

My mom

[@wallac11]

Lol!

[@ascendedalchemist2551]

Joshua homme is often atonal, especially during his solos. Some of the songs from his band queens of the stone age that have atonal guitar solos are almost the entire album rated r, aswell as hanging tree and turning on the screw. It makes a lot of sense since he's directly inspired by Greg ginn, who appeared in the first episode of this series.

[@wallac11]

Love Kyuss

[@reidums]

What Keiji Haino song do u use in the clip

[@wallac11]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYjao62qhbppec0

[@richardhastings489]

Ted Falconi is my all time favorite.

[@wallac11]

Flipper!

[@davidscher4303]

Aron Namenworth

[@CuebogoW]

Xasthur!!!

[@solitaryman777]

An unusual list, one that forms the backbone of much of underground music. It might be helpful to include the band name for which they'd be most associated with, such as Ted Falconi of Flipper. Seeing Paul Leary of Butthole Surfers was a correct inclusion.

[@wallac11]

Thank you

[@Johnnysmithy24]

Nice to see Buckethead here

[@wallac11]

He's awesome

[@CuebogoW]

Both guitarists from The Shaggs

[@wallac11]

Watch this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKm2qJ97o5qfsKs

[@pascalsolal]

Fred Frith is my favorite.

[@wallac11]

He's awesome

[@pascalsolal]

@wallac11 I participated in a master-class that he did in France ten years ago. Then, at night, he gave a concert with a French percussionist he'd never seen before. Total impro. Great moment. Great guy.

[@randygray8921]

Love frith,Keiser and rolo.

[@wallac11]

Me too

[@stevendimmock4791]

Thank you for the intro which went on so long that I couldn't watch the video. The best of this kind of guitaring was Cosy Fanny Tutti. Nobody else came close to the work that she did in the 1970's. Others were just copycats. Long live Throbbing gristle and Cosy!!!

[@waltersmetak]

True - Cosey! Number one master of dissonance!

[@user-yh9sn1ye1j]

good call was away to post her name the power of P A D at ATP camber sands or anthony at brighton poly 1978 leather trousers and negative ion generators lol then watch her dance at some boozer stroll on

[@wallac11]

Love Throbbing Gristle

[@geraldfriend256]

I saw Keith Rowe and I gotta say it was pretentious garbage. My date who was admittedly a bit daft had to leave the room because she couldn’t stop herself from laughing.Reminded me of my own e -bow into a four track fop n fap that I would not present to the public as music. This video was inspiring where’s my e -bow?

[@wallac11]

Thanks for the story

[@giovannidisimone8867]

I must reply to this: Keith Rowe with his work on AMM records did great ,great atonal work , very inspirational to Syd Barrett and Steve Hillage of Gong ...Foolish if you are criticizing him are not aware of his history and results ! Very interesting and appropriate the owner of this channel included this great early British musician interested in other kind of music.Bravo!

[@CuebogoW]

Marc Bolan from T Rex lol

[@wallac11]

Love T-Rex

[@return2sender791]

Im sure some people are thinking "morbid angel???" kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHergYtnZaudatU Listen to some of those solos. Another great list.

[@wallac11]

Thanks for sharing and watching

[@jfdblues]

Roland s Howard

[@wallac11]

Love the Birthday Party

[@ericgendell8874]

Some really interesting choices, however many of the atonal and dissonant passages are taken out of context in the sense that many of these guitarists use atonality and dissonance as part of their of oveure which does not musically define them, but is an aspect of their musical vocabulary. The ones who never play melodically or harmonically are generally psychotics expressing their disturbance and are not musicians, put on mentally ill people who picked up instruments.

[@greedo69]

what

[@solitaryman777]

"Generally" is a broad characterization based on opinion, which is inherently questionable, not evidence. All of these players bothered enough to get the patch cord into jack, so there's, at least, intent. If it sounds like mental illness to you, they've done their job conveying something to which you're relating.

[@Vretens]

For a lot of people with mental health issues, being creative, in whatever media, is a way of coping, understanding, keeping under control and/or improving their mental health. If that doesn’t suit you, so be it, but your comment is seriously lacking in humanity and understanding.

[@wallac11]

noise can be beautiful and authentic. Thanks for watching

[@Mactatio]

The psychotics who have no skils are usually branded as "Outsider", a whole genre in itself, Wesley Willis as an example

[@buzzawuzza3743]

I hate guitar players because most of them are so lousy and uninspired.