Common Questions About Tiling Window Managers

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4 жыл бұрын

The channel keeps growing and, with so many new subscribers, I keep getting a lot of the same questions about tiling window managers. So I thought I would answer some of these on camera.
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@MyurrDurr
@MyurrDurr 4 жыл бұрын
Turning on the Android 10 live captions was pretty funny this video. My favorite part was "you don't need to be a programmer to use Italian window managers"
@marcoriggirello4740
@marcoriggirello4740 4 жыл бұрын
Gestures supported very well
@MyurrDurr
@MyurrDurr 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcoriggirello4740 hmm?
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyurrDurr There's an old stereotype about Italians gesturing a lot when they talk.
@MyurrDurr
@MyurrDurr 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthropomorphic ohh :') That doesn't make sense. Everyone gestures a lot
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 4 жыл бұрын
@@MyurrDurr It's an especially strong cliche with Italians, though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWnLcoKuqLmjjLs
@jcwl70
@jcwl70 4 жыл бұрын
0:55 Which TWM are you using right now? 3:03 Which TWM is the best? 4:12 Which TWM is the best for beginners? Which is the easiest? 6:08 Is a TWM worth it, specially to a non-programmer? 8:08 What is the most customizable TWM? 9:00 I Heard that Python is slow and sucky. So why do you like Qtile? It must be slow, right? 11:15 Does using a TWM make a terminal multiplexer obsolete? 12:15 Are there any other TWMs that have tabbed layout? 14:28 All TWMs look the same. So what's the differences between them? 16:00 Can I get a prencofigured TWM? 18:18 Thanks Patreons
@jcwl70
@jcwl70 4 жыл бұрын
@Poo Guy hehehe fixed! :)
@juarez1011
@juarez1011 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@umka7536
@umka7536 4 жыл бұрын
I accepted your challenge. I switched from Windows (over 20 years of Windows desktop experience) to my first Linux PC and my window environment is Xmonad & Xmobar. :) It works fine. Xmobar consumes more RAM than Xmonad. :)
@LusidDreaming
@LusidDreaming 4 жыл бұрын
Qtile is built on top of Qt, so it's at it's core just a bunch of C++ calls. It's true that python itself is slow, but it's interoperability with C/C++ makes it about as fast as you want it to be (given you want to take the time to write the underlying C/C++ which can be tricky at times). Numpy is a perfect example of this.
@KookoCraft
@KookoCraft 2 жыл бұрын
You may as well just write it in C++ then
@barutaji
@barutaji 2 жыл бұрын
It is c/c++ inside the library and python on the interface. Fast on the inside, but easy to work with on the outside. What's the problem with that?
@LusidDreaming
@LusidDreaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@barutaji nothing, if you want to take the time to wire up your C++ to python to make it more script friendly I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I worked on a project where we did that to offer a more familiar interface to the engineers who used the product.
@AhoooY1
@AhoooY1 2 жыл бұрын
@@KookoCraft why use C++ when you can use a way easier language to work in and modify AND accomplish the exact same thing
@MasterHigure
@MasterHigure 2 жыл бұрын
@@LusidDreaming The idea is that you can make small modular pieces of the heavy processing in C/C++, then use python to glue then together to make them do what you actually want (which can be less straight-forward to program correctly, and much easier for the computer to process, which is where python shines). Or you can use libraries that have already done the C/C++ part for you. Again, see numpy. Or Tensorflow. Or any of hundreds of other libraries.
@logiconabstractions6596
@logiconabstractions6596 Жыл бұрын
The question about " being slow" is funny. Comes up in a lot context/topics. From a programmer, (runtime) speed of languages rarely actually matters for a few reasons: 1 - Few programs really run your process at high CPU % for any length of time. Or more precisely, few programs actually need to run a high # of operations in the context. Things like I/O doesn't matter (because your OS/harddrive is going to be the limiting factor for i/o, or the change of context if you do a high # of i/o ops for small files). 2 - how the thing if program will matter much more as a 1st approximation than actual runtime performance of the language. Things like using caching or not, minimizing or batching calls to external contexts and just generally using a more efficient algo (e.g. something that runs in O(1) vs O(n)) will matter much more.
@shawnh8498
@shawnh8498 4 жыл бұрын
Derek, I sometimes have no idea on something linux and lately it's DistroTube video's I go to since unlike other video's Derek speaks proper english super clearly and you explain why and what about what you recommend and even in an distro installation you give the step by step like when you did an Arch install so I not only saw Arch installed by an explaination on the steps that you did not "just do this" and that's it. Your channel educated the users that need real answers to common stuff no one gives a clear answer to or you find a site with code and not discription of what is happening or how the code works together. You look intimidating at first sight but after listening to you we realize you might be the most helpful person out there for taking the mystery out of basic and not so basic functions of linux and making them simpler for a person that is not an expert to actually use and become a more functional user and expand our skill sets. Keep up the great work, I always look for the distrotube video's since I actually get my questions answered and likely will learn more by the end of your video's.
@Fr0z3nS0liD
@Fr0z3nS0liD 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very useful video with a great approach to this topic. Thank you. People often have this mindset of looking for "the best" in most large changes they have to make, but what they are really looking for is validation that the choice they would like to make is good value, worth the time investment and respected (or at least doesn't bring shame to the user) among other users. This is true for starting to learn programming (people will often reject for instance Java for this purpose because it's "bad"), making a large purchase like a car or a house and sometimes even when choosing a profession.
@tobeypeters
@tobeypeters 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be too harsh on people. I think, most of the time when someone asks "What's the best blank?". They're asking what's the simplest, most powerful, flexible,etc ... Blank. Like, someone says I use blank to do this. Then, someone says if you use blank, instead of doing 10 things to do that, you only have to do 5. Stuff like that. You ARE correct, most of the time, it IS just personal preference. Guess, easiest way we can respond is "For a noob, I might recommend blank and for everyone else it's personal preference.". Then, if we wanted, we could recommend a small list for them to KZbin.
@auroradraco9974
@auroradraco9974 4 жыл бұрын
Tiling WMs are a blessing. I truly am not sure if I can really go back to a floating wm, this is just perfect for me. And the best thing is that it is incredibly easy to port to other PCs if you want (oh sorry, there is no best thing😂😂).
@pranjalgupta2072
@pranjalgupta2072 4 жыл бұрын
This is Beauty of open source software it allows to create your OWN config with some sense of simplicity. It respects everyone choice which makes questions like "which is best" redundant. You make your system yours. On contrast it might not be easy for up and running but once done it is easy to reproduce.
@juanfelipemonsalvevargas602
@juanfelipemonsalvevargas602 Жыл бұрын
I love your channel man, I've learned a lot with this video
@twodogsdave66
@twodogsdave66 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Thanks DT!
@RonnieNissan
@RonnieNissan 4 жыл бұрын
In qtile, if you use the tasklist widget you can see the names of the opened windows while in max layout and can switch between them using your mouse.
@13thravenpurple94
@13thravenpurple94 2 жыл бұрын
Great work 🥳🥳🥳 Thank you 💜💜💜
@edjupp6643
@edjupp6643 4 жыл бұрын
I wish that someday, I get a notification about DT's new video and when I click to watch it, I see him looking at the camera :D. Man, please do it
@wilfridtaylor
@wilfridtaylor 4 жыл бұрын
If he does that though we will be overrun with fangirls :p.
@rochr4
@rochr4 4 жыл бұрын
U fall for a fallacy that person on a screen looks at You, no it is not, person is staring at a wall, want to become a wall? DT stares at the topic He talks about, DT is true, don't be a wall, become a lobster!
@pepijnkrijnsen4
@pepijnkrijnsen4 4 жыл бұрын
@@rochr4 "Don't be a wall, become a lobster" that was deep
@riseabove3082
@riseabove3082 3 жыл бұрын
@@pepijnkrijnsen4 But lobsters are boiled alive. Well, I guess this proves he is a Linux god where one is not proven enough to look at him in the eyes. Boil me now.
@AnzanHoshinRoshi
@AnzanHoshinRoshi 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Derek. I have yet to try Qtile but will in a few months.
@warhawk_yt
@warhawk_yt 4 жыл бұрын
I think you should. I use qtile as my daily driver and it’s amazing. Even if I have multiple tiling window managers installed I tend to always use qtile.
@dlol.
@dlol. 3 жыл бұрын
My progression for TWM's was i3 (disliked it) to dwm (❤️) i have tried other wm's and the second contender is qtile since i like python and i can use different bars with it I found it actually pretty ok to set up! idk why, maybe i just know how to google well XD
@mumk
@mumk 6 ай бұрын
omg i genuinely though you are a programmer of some sort, at least dealing with computer for job. It was mind-blowing and keep up the great content!
@matthewweber4162
@matthewweber4162 4 жыл бұрын
I was an i3 user for years and I never used the tabbed layout.
@marioschroers7318
@marioschroers7318 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I get irritated every time I accidentally hit that key combination, and it throws at me some obscure layout 😀 I like i3 though 🙂
@RP-kr2mg
@RP-kr2mg 4 жыл бұрын
Plasma is better. Why act like it doesn't exist and use Wimdow Managers???
@auroradraco9974
@auroradraco9974 4 жыл бұрын
@@RP-kr2mg this is an incredibly long discussion. TWMs are way more lightweight, and you can do things incredibly faster. But DEs are better if you dont care about the advantages of a TWMs.
@agenttank
@agenttank 4 жыл бұрын
i also dont use tabbed with i3/sway. i dont miss using it.
@marioschroers7318
@marioschroers7318 4 жыл бұрын
@@RP-kr2mg It's not really about what is better. Plasma is totally awesome and would be my DE of choice, as I absolutely prefer it over GNOME. However, some people might prefer a more minimalist approach. For instance, after almost a year using i3-gaps on Arch, I don't see myself returning to anything that is not a tiling window manager, especially since in the process, I have replaced most GUI applications with terminal applications, and I'm not even done with that yet. And in my opinion, a tiling window manager is a perfect companion for terminal applications and a 100% keyboard-centric workflow. I can only report from my personal experience, but I assume that most tiling window manager users will name similar reasons. In essence, it all breaks down to choice and personal preference. It doesn't mean that anyone deliberately ignores the awesome desktop environment that is Plasma.
@pdote
@pdote 4 жыл бұрын
My first TWM was DWM, I had no problems at all. I find the config files actually easier to use than most other configs. Currently I'm using SpectreWM, because it's the only TWM, I could find that handles my six monitors in the way I want, and the config is so bad, everytime I change something, I want a config.c file...
@philipprescott-decie1078
@philipprescott-decie1078 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying you content please keep it up. Could you do an episode about making youtube videos on linux? Easiest screen capture, audio, editing, etc software? Or maybe your process for your videos?
@ericl1421
@ericl1421 4 жыл бұрын
Small correction, xmonad has tabbed layout in contrib: XMonad.Layout.Tabbed. If I remember, xmonad tabbed works better with compton than i3. With tabbed i3, the transparency shows another window and tabbed xmonad transparency shows the desktop background.
@pixxel17
@pixxel17 3 жыл бұрын
I am running pop_os and using kde and trying to configure an i3 install. Having a full DE is so helpful in trying to configure a WM for a beginner like myself. Just a recommendation :3
@migue7490
@migue7490 4 жыл бұрын
My first twm was i3, probably like 95% of people, and then switched to xmonad, it's harder to configure but it works better with scratchpad, layouts and floating windows for me, although I miss a little bit the binding modes of i3. It can be done in xmonad but my skills are not good yet. I stole dt's xmonad configuration, it saved my weeks of trial and error, it just works.
@mattjclay
@mattjclay 4 жыл бұрын
I really like Awesome wm. I3 was nice too. But awesome works well out of the box and is easier to config.
@AlbeyAmakiir
@AlbeyAmakiir 3 жыл бұрын
"Are you opening programs and then forgetting what's open? I think not." You underestimate those of us with ADHD.
@hotdog9259
@hotdog9259 3 жыл бұрын
ayy ADHD gang
@KookoCraft
@KookoCraft 2 жыл бұрын
Ur not quirky stfu
@AlbeyAmakiir
@AlbeyAmakiir 2 жыл бұрын
@@KookoCraft You're exactly right! I'm not quirky! I'm disabled. We disabled people can learn to laugh about ourselves, and frequently do. Also, in the 5 months since I wrote the comment, I have in fact shut up about the topic several times! For real though, if you need to relieve stress by yelling at a stranger on the internet, I get it. A lot of things really suck right now. It'll be ok. You're not alone.
@gimcrack555
@gimcrack555 4 жыл бұрын
Right there is no best. But we all have preferences, like we can list of the top 3 favorites or top 5 favorites from our experience with a few of these programs. My top three favorite Tiling Window Managers are i3, bspwm and herbstluftwm. Other Window Managers that I like are pekwm, openbox, fluxbox, and JWM.(Stacking)
@LazyLoneLion
@LazyLoneLion 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the instructional video about how to combine all those (most common) components into a whole thing. Like how do I change login manager? How do I configure a specific window manager in the (?) login manager ? How do I switch desktop environment? How do I take something from one DE and something else from another and use it -- like use Nautilus in GNOME just for example?
@thingsiplay
@thingsiplay 3 жыл бұрын
Normal hopper: hopps distros DistroTube: hopps window manager
@gl0sek
@gl0sek 2 жыл бұрын
I actually prefer tmux. Since it runs in a background as a service I think only once it crashed on me but had multiple instances of desktop environment crashing and once it happened all terminals and work on them closed... Besides I like that I can connect via ssh from any machine attach tmux and all my work is just where I left it. The only thing that bothers me with tmux is copying to and from it.
@grimfistgaming7694
@grimfistgaming7694 4 жыл бұрын
I actually use KDE Plasma as a twm, because I always use the keyboard shortcuts to arrange the windows in a tiling fashion. So I do not need a "real twm" :D
@fiatamen9235
@fiatamen9235 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same with Gnome. I mainly work with full screen or half-screen apps, set up with keyboard shortcuts. Then, I use "jumpapp" to instantly switch, again with keyboard shortcuts, between the about 20 apps that I always need. So I never need a mouse to move to apps.
@Spartacus69
@Spartacus69 4 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get i3 function buttons working right on my X1Carbon. I installed Regolith-Linux and it got me jump-started and now I feel like I'm ready to build my own config.
@kevinkane1234
@kevinkane1234 3 жыл бұрын
@ 03:08 Hey DT! there is no stupid question !
@Esc0bar0ni
@Esc0bar0ni 4 жыл бұрын
I would've like to know about tiling window managers that operate using Wayland, instead of Xorg. Been thinking about switching to Sway, but don't know yet if it is worth it.
@valentjedi
@valentjedi 4 жыл бұрын
This is a wild offtopic, but I absolutely love his accent. Where is DistroTube from?
@666sinney
@666sinney 4 жыл бұрын
valignatev Texas
@rochr4
@rochr4 4 жыл бұрын
I am xfce power user, mono screen all my life, I became intrigued, came about a second screen, vanilla xfce is not good at multihead, can't make second screen a worskpace, I installed awesome, now I will rice it, down the drain goes my productivity, TY.. :p
@rochr4
@rochr4 4 жыл бұрын
Log entry: I am integrating awesomewm into xfce for now, solved key conflicts, looking to vim'ify it all, goes smooth so far, love it's dual screen behavior, all good so far)
@samokidam8306
@samokidam8306 4 жыл бұрын
@DistroTube When editing /etc/pacman.conf and adding the line ILoveCandy we get a Pacman (represented by C and c) eating dots. My ? is: Can Pacman (C and c) be changed into real Pacman icon? Thanks and thanks for the videos. All the best!
@tonn333
@tonn333 4 жыл бұрын
Bspwm is the best at sticking to the Unix philosophy. (on non-tiling side, xfce is also good at it)
@rochr4
@rochr4 4 жыл бұрын
XFCE can place new windows in somewhat broken tilling manner itself, myth is broken.
@tonn333
@tonn333 4 жыл бұрын
@axl Dev are you familiar with unix philosophy?
@tonn333
@tonn333 4 жыл бұрын
@axl Dev ah then you are aware of the differences between unix philosophy and suckless.
@tonn333
@tonn333 4 жыл бұрын
@axl Dev so you think theres no differences?
@tonn333
@tonn333 4 жыл бұрын
@axl Dev my point is they're not the same
@bahathir_
@bahathir_ 4 жыл бұрын
My first X Window, window manager was twm, in early 1990's. Then I 'switched' to fullscreen GNU Emacs.. :) and stucked in it. :)
@bahathir_
@bahathir_ 4 жыл бұрын
Then one day, I saw a new very interesting workstation in the computer lab. Very graphically GUI ... and it called "NeXT Setp".. Yes, the workstation was the NeXT Unix workstation. Many years after that, I 'emulated' the feeling with OpenStep window manager on Slackware Linux.. Then, I tried as many window managers as possible, including a very rare "Text window manager;; TWin. Yes, we can make text console as windowig UI. Then after I found GNU Screen, I stopped looking anymore.. :) Personally, I prefers tiny lightweight window manager, such as, lwm, aewm, tinywm, swm, ... and I loves evilwm. until today . :)
@cuttlefishn.w.2705
@cuttlefishn.w.2705 Жыл бұрын
I moved from i3 to qtile a while back and I"ll be honest, I kinda miss the tabbed layout. You know the columns layout that qtile offers? That's closer to how I used the tabbed layout than the max layout demonstrated here. What that person was talking about has more to do with the tree-like structure i3 uses to contain its windows within containers and subcontainers, and then apply the tabbed layout to a subcontainer for a cleaner look while also keeping everything you immediately need in one workspace.
@Darkest_of_Winter
@Darkest_of_Winter 2 жыл бұрын
I dig that skull ascii in the thumbnail 👀
@gogogogogogogogogogog9
@gogogogogogogogogogog9 4 жыл бұрын
i started with dwm and it was fine it was my first wm comming from gnome now i use sowm and it is crazy fast
@thecashewtrader3328
@thecashewtrader3328 3 жыл бұрын
😁
@Gornius
@Gornius 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using i3 for half a year. Although it's completely next-level experience from floating window managers, I can see its flaws. I'm looking to switch to either DWM or Awesome. I've tried st from suckless, and actually used it for a while, but switched to kitty, because it was either buggy and "fix it yourself" approach wasn't really for me. Therefore I'm afraid of using DWM. Is it still worth tring DWM before Awesome?
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 4 жыл бұрын
It's worth trying both dwm and awesome. Both are good and awesome was originally a fork of dwm. If you want suckless, go dwm. If you want "everything and the kitchen sink included", then awesome is what you want.
@diegof4083
@diegof4083 2 жыл бұрын
Hey DT. I use i3 and often use tabbed layout in split layout. You said "tabbed layout is just a monocle layout with tabs on top". Can I split and tabbed in other window manager?
@brunomello7499
@brunomello7499 3 жыл бұрын
13:15 well what if I want a "master/tabs" layout? one window on the left half of the screen and one stack of windows on the right half of the screen?
@Pikoro09
@Pikoro09 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone finds weird he is not a programmer and does not even work with computers?
@razbeats8242
@razbeats8242 4 жыл бұрын
This is the beauty of Linux. You have to learn if you want things done even if you aren't a programmer
@Reliktish
@Reliktish 4 жыл бұрын
if you ask me, he could take a job like that without trouble
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 4 жыл бұрын
@@razbeats8242 Makes me think of something people in the old school shaving community like to say. Straight edge razors are better, but they also require you to basically make shaving a hobby. If you just want to shave, you'd better turn elsewhere.
@razbeats8242
@razbeats8242 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anthropomorphic I believe everyone in the world needs some level of computer knowledge to work or study more efficiently and if you're using Linux, you're more than likely going to know more about how things work. It's harder yes but hard != bad.
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 4 жыл бұрын
@@razbeats8242 Sure, though the common denominator between more widely known and adopted systems seems to be that the threshold of entry is fairly low, and there's no real requirement to climb higher. The shallow end, while suboptimal, is viable on its own. Of course, I'm kind of assuming here that wider adoption is desirable, and many would disagree.
@AndyPandy33
@AndyPandy33 4 жыл бұрын
Well DT, as you said you are KZbin personality so you need to accept that a lot of people want to copy you, that comes with fame. I get your point, but it is what it is.
@eegoal
@eegoal 4 жыл бұрын
Drink every time he throws shade at luke smith hahahah
@pgoogler
@pgoogler 4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@chillshobe8147
@chillshobe8147 4 жыл бұрын
I'd pass out
@learningbird9940
@learningbird9940 4 жыл бұрын
Please, to you all, stop the paranoia! I've never seen Derek Taylor and Luke Smith engaging in mutual attacks!
@learningbird9940
@learningbird9940 4 жыл бұрын
@@minhajshovon9789 I think one can learn lots of things with both and, of course, many others.
@minhajshovon9789
@minhajshovon9789 4 жыл бұрын
@@fossegrim287 sorry man! i am not a fan boy because i don't agree with everything he says and i think he's cheap in a lot of ways. But that's not why i wrote those comments. I wrote those because i felt irritated by someone just toying around all day and say "getting my WORKFLOW right" "getting WORK done" words. No strong feelings and probably i won't comment something like that in future but i felt like it and i said it.
@mrAirsoft953
@mrAirsoft953 4 жыл бұрын
The tabbed layout in i3 does not force you to be fullscreen like the monocole layout, so I don't see how they're the same. You could have a set of tabs take up just one corner of the screen, which is super helpful for multiple vim instances, opening multiple PDFs, etc. Not saying xmonad can't do that because I don't know, that's just not what you showed.
@astralfields
@astralfields 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason I use the tabbed layout on i3 is that I can click the tabs with my mouse. Can't do that in any other WM. I mainly use the tabbed layout on my second screen to combine Firefox, Spotify/other media players, Discord... basically applications that are primarily mouse-driven. When I'm planning to interact with one of these applications, I'm already using my mouse, so it makes sense to switch between them with my mouse as well. I don't often use the tabbed layout for terminals or other keyboard-driven applications. And of course, as you said, tabbed containers don't have to be fully maximized. You can have one window occupying one half of the screen, and a tabbed container with multiple applications occupying the other half of the screen. It's not at all comparable to a monocle layout.
@smorrow
@smorrow 3 жыл бұрын
"Qtile is just as fast" Ah, the "just as good" meme from gun KZbin.
@luluslovebear
@luluslovebear 3 жыл бұрын
Hey DT what is the best chocolate? I prefer DarkChocolate.
@bahathir_
@bahathir_ 4 жыл бұрын
I tried many window managers, and I prefers eveilwm; tiny stacking window manager. Bery small, fast and versatile. Not need to use mouse to operates. Thank you.
@GreyDeathVaccine
@GreyDeathVaccine 4 жыл бұрын
Never heard of it.
@bahathir_
@bahathir_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@GreyDeathVaccine www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/ or wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Evilwm
@Aldodo91
@Aldodo91 2 жыл бұрын
hey DT how you create the skull i see in the thumbnail of this video ?
4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by dwm is not usable out of the box? Pretty much the only thing that has to be changed is in the key bindings, changing Alt to Meta. After that, dwm is perfectly usable, no need to patch it at all (unlike st).
@reduxred9309
@reduxred9309 4 жыл бұрын
DT if you could able submissions of closed captions to your videos I'd like to help making them. Thanks!
@Artoooooor
@Artoooooor 2 жыл бұрын
I actually used DWM as my first tiling window manager. And from just laziness I didn't change it to anything else. I tried i3 but didn't like the tree structure.
@Rahul99876
@Rahul99876 4 жыл бұрын
I am trying to find a right way to configure Awesome WM on Manjaro KDE. While I read that KDE plasma is integrated extensively on vanilla Manjaro, wanted to know some basic steps to follow to configure it on my desktop
@foji-video
@foji-video 2 жыл бұрын
treetab in qtile is basically a tabbed layout, just the tabs are on the side
@Your_Degenerate
@Your_Degenerate 4 жыл бұрын
I've been using Arco Linux to try out different environments/managers because it has such an easy way to install them with it's tweak tool. It's a bit too rolling for my taste so I'm fine with using it for exploration.
@sourav_-_7038
@sourav_-_7038 3 жыл бұрын
xmonad was my first wm. i had no problem.
@sourav_-_7038
@sourav_-_7038 3 жыл бұрын
so i had dont agree with dt.
@mylinuxgr5050
@mylinuxgr5050 4 жыл бұрын
I usually suggest i3 as the most suitable tiling wm to start...
@bschlueter
@bschlueter 4 жыл бұрын
Sway. Waybar is in my option just so much better than all the other bars available on i3
@froge8121
@froge8121 4 жыл бұрын
Benedict Schlüter i wanted to use sway but is there a way to get a different layout than columns preferably one like fairv in awesome
@Linuxdirk
@Linuxdirk Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a use case for a tiling WM. Sitting in front of a 28" 4K screen and not liking pretty much all windows in fullscreen ... I would end up configuring all windows to float or use dozens of "padding windows" to resize other windows.
@ewout4890
@ewout4890 4 жыл бұрын
This guy... master of Computing😂
@michaelchalupiak7272
@michaelchalupiak7272 4 жыл бұрын
And maybe just a video on micro, it's like the vi improved of nano like editors
@noponn8007
@noponn8007 4 жыл бұрын
I use it all the time, it is amazing for scripting and it is suprisingly powerful.
@fmash1686
@fmash1686 4 жыл бұрын
How do I get those cool looking terminal banners?
@jacobhinchliffe6659
@jacobhinchliffe6659 2 жыл бұрын
I think on his gitlab?
@jonmhayden
@jonmhayden 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see TWM, I think "Tom's Window Manager" running on X Windows back in the early 90s on Sun/Solaris.
@mingyi456
@mingyi456 4 жыл бұрын
When you say Qtile appears to be just as fast as other wms, is it because it is configured minimally? I have a feeling the Python backend may not scale well when a lot of stuff is added to Qtile's config as compared to adding the same amount of customization to other wms.
@mingyi456
@mingyi456 4 жыл бұрын
@@fossegrim287 So Xorg has an API that window managers call for most of the functions? Is that how it works?
@alphabennyrosy5068
@alphabennyrosy5068 4 жыл бұрын
How do u deal with tearing in tiling window managers? Do u use just use picom or do you play with the xorg. conf.d file and add TearFree option?
@riseabove3082
@riseabove3082 3 жыл бұрын
Compton
@alphabennyrosy5068
@alphabennyrosy5068 3 жыл бұрын
@@riseabove3082 let me tell you right off the bat, that is not a great solution.
@crab_aesthetics
@crab_aesthetics 2 жыл бұрын
I think you misunderstand the utility of the i3 tabbed layout. When your windows are full screen, it's not useful, it's superfluous, like you demonstrate. Where it really shines is when you already have the view split. I will describe an example. Part of my job requires answering phones, and the phone interface is a web page. On a small window that takes up maybe the right 15% of the screen, I keep the phone system web page open. The other 85% of the screen I use 5 tabbed windows: - Browser for ticketing system and research - Chat client - Remote Windows machine for applications that I need that can't be installed on Linux - Notes - File browser The tabs at the top of the left split allow easy access to any of these windows, while still allowing the phone system window to remain open on the right side of the screen. One other thing that probably many people do not know is that you can split windows inside a tabbed view. This is useful for like keeping many windows open but only one of them focused, taking up the full screen, but then still having the ability to open a split on that window while leaving all the others on their own tabs out of the way. I find myself using this often when needing to reference a web page and open terminals but I still have other web pages open in their own windows that I don't necessarily want to close, but I don't want to have on the screen at the moment.
@migue7490
@migue7490 4 жыл бұрын
I use tmux in a floating window (luke Smith idea) and with fuzzy finder.
@XDjUanZInHO
@XDjUanZInHO 3 жыл бұрын
Tmux is very useful to avoid having bloated and big terminal emulators but also having those tabs on tmux and having the saved sessions in it, so I really can't see myself not using it, it's specially useful when you wanna search for error messages and correct them on the same screen
@ronobvious1785
@ronobvious1785 4 жыл бұрын
I have wanted to get into qtile for a couple of weeks now but no matter if I try it on Debian or Manjaro or pure Arch I can't get the default config to work. If I try to start qtile with the default config it tells me that there is an error in the config file. If I try to run that file from CLI with Python it looks to me as though it is calling out some methods which the libraries do not contain. I haven't had time to dig into that and wind up going back to XFCE just to get things done. Anyone else have issues with that?
@LDavis
@LDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Same for me
@sishomot2548
@sishomot2548 4 жыл бұрын
Even locally, your X-windows can crash or freeze, or you nay accidentally close the terminal window. But tmux session keeps running.
@celestialadministration
@celestialadministration 4 жыл бұрын
Python is a great language to learn for beginners. It's not statically typed language. It's interpretive dynamic language.
@mattjclay
@mattjclay 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with python, it's a fully capable language. People are just stupid.
@x3mboy
@x3mboy 4 жыл бұрын
It's ok to ask for a suggestion, but "the best" is not a question to ask. I love i3wm, but I don't think is the best, it just works for me
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut
@ImNotQualifiedToSayThisBut 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have time to customize it right now. Already completely behind in uni because of Arch not liking my gpu.
@chillshobe8147
@chillshobe8147 4 жыл бұрын
What is that program that gets ran everytime you open the terminal?
@twodogsdave66
@twodogsdave66 4 жыл бұрын
Put in .bashrc ### RANDOM COLOR SCRIPT ### /opt/shell-color-scripts/colorscript.sh random
@luluslovebear
@luluslovebear 3 жыл бұрын
I use stock WM s mostly but I can switch.
@boblol1465
@boblol1465 3 жыл бұрын
Well, dwm was kinda my first wm
@ewout4890
@ewout4890 4 жыл бұрын
People ask questions like whats the best because they are scared to start with a “bad” WM
@michgingras
@michgingras 2 жыл бұрын
ham the best !
4 жыл бұрын
Luke Smith made me switch to DWM and I have been unable to use anything ever since. I feel like there's a slight delay between pressing a button and something happening in awesome. Also it's a bit annoying that the good WMs usethe most annoying configs. C code that you have to compile into the binary, haskell and Lua. Might try out qtile at some point though.
@fuseteam
@fuseteam 4 жыл бұрын
i believe you mean anything _else_ :p but yeah dwm is great
@celestialadministration
@celestialadministration 4 жыл бұрын
DT I thought you was a sysadmin.
@JuanEsquitin
@JuanEsquitin 4 жыл бұрын
DT, I tried deleting my KDE for an I3 tiling window manager and I screwed up my install because I didn’t know what files you needed before you install any tiling window manager and deleting your DE.
@twb0109
@twb0109 4 жыл бұрын
Actually you don't need much xd
@twb0109
@twb0109 4 жыл бұрын
You'll miss features from the DEs obviously
@TheToniz4
@TheToniz4 4 жыл бұрын
Just backup your files and make a clean install
@muCephei_
@muCephei_ 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a programmer but extremely interested in Linux
@dredfolly3514
@dredfolly3514 4 жыл бұрын
Any1 know how Dt does those graphics in his terminal on startup ? Pls
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 4 жыл бұрын
Go to my GitLab and check the shell-color-scripts repository.
@dredfolly3514
@dredfolly3514 4 жыл бұрын
DistroTube ur awesome. Ty 4 reply. Stay safe amigo 👍
@joaopauloalbq
@joaopauloalbq 4 жыл бұрын
14:15 yes
@AtomToast
@AtomToast 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't awesome actually show the open windows in monocole layout in the top bar as tabs?
@oobie3193
@oobie3193 4 жыл бұрын
Out of the box, yes you are correct. If you want to change it (aesthetics wise or even removing it if that is your thing), all you need to do is look for the "task list" in your configs. By default it is in the rc.lua file at lines 157 - 169 (and then implemented into a wibox at line 183). In a majority of the reddit rices, most people split the rc.lua file into separate config files so you just need to do a little looking to find it if you go down that path and download the dotfiles.
@dezznuzzinyomouth2543
@dezznuzzinyomouth2543 Жыл бұрын
what de are you going to use tomorro
@Scrubzei
@Scrubzei 4 жыл бұрын
The only bad thing about i3 is the jkl; bindings. It's a pain having to remap everything
@mattk6343
@mattk6343 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, but it takes like 3minutes to change that, so...
@shawnh8498
@shawnh8498 4 жыл бұрын
An Arch coffee cup, didn't know those were a thing, kind of jealous now.
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 4 жыл бұрын
www.redbubble.com/shop/?iaCode=u-mugs&query=arch%20linux
@samokidam8306
@samokidam8306 4 жыл бұрын
Luke Smith dwm gang where ya at :D?
@minhajshovon9789
@minhajshovon9789 4 жыл бұрын
Luke makes better video than him. Ask me why
@roylastname9367
@roylastname9367 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was memed into dwm, too.
@bendover4728
@bendover4728 4 жыл бұрын
Serious question up here: If every single TWM can be configured as every single other TWM... Why even move away from i3wm?
@froge8121
@froge8121 4 жыл бұрын
dark whisperer layouts awesome has many preconfigured layouts like fairv and i dont know how to get fairv on i3 i would switch to sway (wayland i3)
@KookoCraft
@KookoCraft 2 жыл бұрын
Cuz i3 sucks
@edjupp6643
@edjupp6643 4 жыл бұрын
4:00 But there is one except about "the best" question, no doubt you won't find a video player better than VLC. :D
@TheB3n0
@TheB3n0 4 жыл бұрын
MPV
@DistroTube
@DistroTube 4 жыл бұрын
Movie Monad is the best: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIWaeoN9dpiYjs0
@MarkHobbes
@MarkHobbes 4 жыл бұрын
SMPlayer for some, it's the best.
@bahathir_
@bahathir_ 4 жыл бұрын
MPLayer.. Period. :)
@torspedia
@torspedia 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to learn WMs with Arco Xtended. Question though. What WM are you running now? And now? How about now? 🤪
@zenithium2585
@zenithium2585 4 жыл бұрын
WINDOWS managers
@TarebossT
@TarebossT 4 жыл бұрын
I bet after this clip the Lenin looking unaboomer ranting ina woods will come with a dab...
@henry-rs9zq
@henry-rs9zq 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if twm is a twm... :)
@theharbingerofconflation
@theharbingerofconflation 2 жыл бұрын
I personally use i3. It's like awesome but better
@jazzochannel
@jazzochannel 4 жыл бұрын
You are in error. I am the universal best.
@lucastperez
@lucastperez 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really curious about DT's actual job now 😅
@jacobhinchliffe6659
@jacobhinchliffe6659 2 жыл бұрын
He works in retail as a supervisor last I heard
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