Why Do People Cheat At Online Games?

[@CosmeBenito]

I've known some people who cheated in online games and it's always about low self-esteem. They attach their self-worth to the result of the game, which is extremely bad for your mental health. It's really sad, to be honest.

[@salpertia]

i am bad at the game therefore suffer.

[@dappermuis5002]

My one grandfather liked to cheat at cards and hated it when we gave him a old computer to play it on instead. Lasted a few days and then he never played on the computer again. Think for him it was more of a power trip to be the winner no matter what. He had a very domineering personality.

[@arniejonassen]

This!!!

[@dermond]

Even more when most cheaters, when you call them out they just stop using cheats and leave. That is if the cheater is alone, because the often come in pair to support each other low self esteem

[@SIGSEGV200]

I cheat cuz I can, I like developing my own cheats and understand the technology behind the game and how it leverages the OS to detect cheaters

[@mrnadra6843]

"At some point it becomes unplayable" did someone say Tarkov?!

[@starrymohannad]

TF2

[@Germanssuchti]

cs2

[@emcclure933]

the closest i come to cheating in a games is to use a walkthrough.

[@WartimeFriction]

I argue that a walkthrough is not cheating, but a valuable strategy to problems that challenge your valuable time

[@StrikerEureka85]

(gasp) how can you look at yourself in the mirror?

[@Hyperboid]

oh no, i used a website instead of pen and paper for the stone age area in super paper mario. guess it's [comically absurd punishment] for me 🤪

[@alexcerzea]

same XD

[@bmmartin1684]

'What the hell is wrong with you?' A lot of people need to be asked this.

[@MG-qj2zh]

Why ? because he hit the nail on the head?

[@Straitjacket-Fits]

@bmmartin Yes indeed.

[@somethingcoolgoeshere]

i found it funny

[@Maxume]

I've been pondering this question for a while now and I think the answer is actually super simple. It's not because they absolutely HAVE to win. They simply get a kick out of the frustration of other people. It's the kind of people who love KZbin "prank" channels.

[@RubixCubed3]

I play strictly single player games except Mario kart. But what I’ve noticed for those who cheat is some people want to either win at all cost, or just troll other people.

[@salpertia]

astute observation

[@morli5301]

Didn‘t know DT was a Gamer. Now I want to see him play some games tbh 😅. Love your take on cheating btw.

[@renealbrechtsen9743]

Probably not going to happen unless they're open source.

[@vintovkasnipera]

@@renealbrechtsen9743 it really seems like he's a tarkov player

[@doctahjonez]

@@renealbrechtsen9743 open arena

[@gnulectures]

He's not, but he has demonstrated some FOSS games on the channel like 0ad, Xonotic, and OpenArena.

[@pw1187]

Because they can. It just boils down to that really. People have been cheating for millennium. When competition is involved... Nothing new and it will never change.

[@Rekseri]

They like the power trip

[@Zookegger]

I gotta say, I wasn’t expecting a video like this from you.

[@donjon61]

After having cheated in oh-so-many games I've always come back to that question, too. That is because I never one cheated in a competitive multiplayer game so that I could be "the best" player - that never made sense to me. If I found that I'm too bad against other people either I trained hard or stopped playing the game and switched to something more worthwhile. In other games it's as you said yourself. Cheating because of the all the time you needed to achieve a specific thing. For me that mostly was armor and weapons in offline or cooperative online games when possible. I like to collect stuff and simply don't feel more pleasure when grinding for days or weeks. The other reason is education. Getting to know how stuff works in games is really cool and is fascinating. It's tempting to develop an aimbot or such myself. But I'd never publish it so other's actually used it, alas myself. That's not fun.

[@cyberguy2025]

Exactly, It pisses me off bigtime when I am playing an online game and cheaters are on there, makes you not even want to play the game, then I call them out for it and they always come back and say "Get Good" or some stupid crap like that, and I'm like how the hell are you suppose to get good against a cheater,makes no damn sense, but I also realize what kind of life they must have that they would wan't to cheat at a game. And these so called Anti-Cheats they have in games(namely COD and battlefield) doesn't do anything, and when you report them they do nothing about it anyway, it's all BS. I game once in a while to escape the real world and relax for a bit and I don't wanto to encounter cheaters while doing it. Awesome video.

[@mrbloodyhyphen-5657]

I only ever cheat in Pokemon games by giving myself rare Candies because I don't like grinding

[@arniejonassen]

Hey DT, you're 100% right. It's totally a mental thing.

[@Jeff_Seely]

Oh, man! That's a sensitive nerve. My family and I love playing RISK (the board game). One week, after losing and losing, The family got smart and developed a strategy against me. Now they all throw in together and gang up to beat me. Many folks do not consider this a form of cheating since Risk is a strategy game and their argument is, "Dad, that's just the way the world works". To me, it is cheating and is punishable by added chores such as cleaning the restrooms😁. Sometimes cheating sucks for the cheaters. Thanks, Derek!

[@MorneBooysen]

That's not cheating, but that is exactly how world warfare works and part of the game design. 😂

[@Jeff_Seely]

@@MorneBooysen hehehe, agreed. Me declaring it a form of cheating is kind of like how the red coats considered the colonials cheaters because they didn't fight like "gentlemen". Win by any means necessary, is sometimes warranted.

[@dickjones9207]

your kids are going to put you into a retirement home the moment they can, can't cheat out the colostomy bag bro

[@SigSeg-V]

DT already getting frustrated at the state of CounterStrike 2 lol

[@The1RandomFool]

I think it's about having an advantage over someone else and knowing they can do nothing about it. They like causing harm to others.

[@occultsupport]

I use to play minecraft 1.8.9. I've used everything from blatant fly hacks to closet delay remover hacks. It isn't fun anymore. I've since deleted all my cheats and clients because it's more fun to lose from time to time.

[@KevinPencilDraw]

Cheating is unfortunate! It’s one of the reasons I don’t drive around in my super car in GTA online. There’s always the thought a cheater would explode my vehicle unfortunately. I keep it in the garage and just have it for show.

[@TheRealDarklight]

IMO there is 3 understandable reason to cheat in mp: 1, to punish cheaters and hopefully bully them out of the match - playing on an adminless server with good community, there were times where the quickest way to get rid of a cheater ruining the game, was to have a couple guys turn cheats on and focus only on the cheater until he leaves. Their ego usually don't last more than they would in bed... 2, to avoid excessive, potentially exploitive grinding where if you don't put in full time job worth of time you're just not competitive or you already done the work on a different platform (console, pc) and don't want to start over just to play with friends or something- of course only in games where this doesn't negativly impact others If the most efficient way to play a game is to flip burgers in McDonald's and buy the unlocks in a paid game, I can't fault anybody who cheats instead of feeding greedy companies for enshityfication... 3 if you agree with friends to all use cheats and break the game - it's still an even playing field + there is a lot of possibilities for ridiculous stupid fun - it's kind of like hunting for bugs...

[@PlaCerHooD]

Yeah and number 1 is how actual cheaters start out: They are new and/or suck, run into a good player.... Presume that person must be cheating, because the other option would be: they are bad. Their ego doesn't like that. So they start cheating, because "everybody" cheats.

[@TheRealDarklight]

@@PlaCerHooD You're right. This is only applicable in clear violation, e.g. where almost everybody in chat is talking about how to get rid of him. Otherwise, it can be a slippery slope. I also admit that I basically only game with friends now, and usually in coop so, I don't even know if this is something people still do or not. For me this came from a long time ago where we knew about 80% of the people any time on the server, anti-cheat wasn't great, and sometimes even admins could not ban or kick the cheater because of name changers and other exploits. So it's probably a really niche situation.

[@ashleyadam955]

I don't cheat in video games at all

[@cherubin7th]

I don't play online games. But I changed the source code of Pokete, because it just took forever to level the pokete monsters up and I got annoyed (but great single player offline open source game regardless).

[@stevepoling]

Vince Lombardi had something to say about winning being everything. And stock car drivers are reputed to have said, "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't trying." These competitive arenas are not the same as online multi-player games, but it's easy to see folks bringing the mindset to this arena. (I'm not approving this, just offering an explanation.) Malcolm Gladwell has written about how Davids win against Goliaths. In one example he tells of a soccer coach who takes on coaching duties for a basketball team of short white suburban girls. This team managed to beat much taller opposing teams by adapting a zone defense (from soccer) against the man-to-man strategy of their (taller, inner-city) opponents. In any competition, you are best advised to match your strengths against your opponent's weaknesses. Because the short white girls won unexpectedly and the taller girls' coaches were unwilling to abandon man-on-man they were accused of cheating. (Do they call it man-on-man in woman's basketball?) After they abandoned a zone defense, they lost because they couldn't overcome the obvious height advantage of their opponents. If the rules allow or cannot detect cheating, then the game is broken and it needs to be fixed. Or you could simply suppose that the folks who you accuse of cheating have undersized sexual organs. Yeah, do that. (But what if they're girls?)

[@RandomizerVidz]

I personally cheat in cod warzone only to unlock weapon blueprints & operators. It's insane what they charge for them 25$ for an operator bundle. I don't agree with using walls,aim bot ect...

[@ScottAshmead]

This is why I only LAN party multiplayer games

[@keksmlg]

Cheating in online games can happen simply because someone wants a game to die off quicker, due to their dissatisfaction about the game and its community itself. A good example is an FPS game I was into for years but recently gave up on, Planetside 2. The past 2 years the game designers flat out made it clear that they ignore constructive criticism about the game. They were not accepting of valid criticism before either, actively moderating it off the online communities, but these past 3 years they made this behavior feel extremely blatant and basically used the game as a vessel for every possible bad decision they wanted to "check out" for the sake of "checking something out". All while not fixing core gameplay issues that have existed since the very launch of the game and only wasting time adding pointless content and tweaking it to rot time after time. Well, the game lost its skilled playerbase and now it only consists of people that keep it on life support, by throwing their money away at its useless cosmetics, but also cheaters, that join just to make peak hours' gameplay miserably annoying. This is done in an attempt to drive off newer players, but also veteran players who are targeted community members, most often because of their controversially idiotic opinions about the game and their symbiotic relationship to its demise. In this case, the cheaters just do it out of spite and have a last bit of fun before the game fully dies off. Also cheating can overall be seen as a niche reverse-engineering/automation software development challenge.

[@cejannuzi]

Inherent to humans apparently is a strong urge to cheat--almost as much as the urge to play games. The same sort of mentality seems to have taken over online chess even.

[@zirkoni42]

I think it was on Reddit where one cheater explained they cheat because they enjoy ruining the game for others. Some people just want to watch the world burn.

[@Fred-oliveiriks]

Now imagine them IRL

[@rollerr]

In my experience there are 4 main groups of cheaters. First would be younger kids seeking validation, and using the cheats to get it. I want to believe most people grow out of this Second group would be for profit cheaters, whether that be in a game like Tarkov where you can sell items for profit, or perhaps someone that cheats in esports to make money. Any money involved in gaming is going to lead to something like this. Third group are the trolls, people that cheat just because they find it funny and they want to make people mad. Even though I find this annoying, this one pisses me off the least because at least it's honest. The fourth and probably least worthy of respect are the kids that never grew out of cheating and just stealth cheat as adults. It's highly likely these people have sociopathic tendencies, and are the biggest losers by far.

[@WartimeFriction]

I've never cheated in an online game, well.. except maybe Call of Duty World at War, where a group of friends and I found out we could exploit the bayonet charge to reach otherwise unreachable areas of the map. It was always fun shooting people from where they never thought to look. Id argue that it wasn't cheating necessarily, nor did it become an unfair advantage for too long as all the places we could exploit and reach would also inevitably get us killed. Good times, simpler times

[@NoLoginIdea]

They just have good gaming chair.

[@flamer_x2885]

I've only ever cheated on mario kart 7 for the 3ds and it was mostly because I kept encountering other cheaters who kept targeting people in specific including myself. The reason I cheated was because I had the mentality of "if you can't beat them, join them". I haven't cheated online in any other games and don't plan to.

[@vikingskuld]

You would think someone would come out with an anti cheating program? I dont know i quit playing Call of duty when i figured out how many were cheating. Thanks for the vid

[@-_-Girthbrooks-_-]

Cheating in PvP? Sounds like a skill issue.

[@DigitalMetal]

I find it weird that people like playing these games with stranger. But I guess I'm in the minority with that. It seems like most people hook to servers and play with people they have never meet or have ever even talked to. I guess my mind set is just different.

[@Ankhaz]

I sometimes cheat in GTA Online, but only in private lobbies, with friends, and we just goof around, what is, in my eyes the only justifieable reasons to cheat

[@kangaroochili]

Cheated in a ton of single player games, and usually it was for fun. I’m not always looking for a challenge, sometimes I just want to push the game to its limits for my entertainment. Now, competitive/cooperative multiplayer games, never been much of a cheater here. As a kid I dabbled with the little script kiddie mods in older Call of Duty games. Rarely was I malicious though, I just thought it was funny to pull the occasional prank and make everyone float around in zero-gravity or jump ridiculously high. Most people found those kind of things amusing. It was never much fun to use an aim bot or make yourself invincible.

[@chocolat5804]

with some friends we tried to play gta V on pc and the ammount of cheaters is stupid, so in the end we stopped playing because we just ended playing on private lobbies, and it wasn't just "insta win" cheats, it were also cheats that gave money and xp to other players to get them banned (funny how it's easier to get banned because a cheater inserted money into your acc, than to get banned because of cheating)

[@domjean2267]

Gta is a shit show I feel you

[@wateryevents960]

Thanks DT. I appreciate the video on this. I agree 100% with how stupid it is to put closed source software on your machine from known hackers. So dumb.... But its fun when you can play the game straight up and still dunk on cheaters with pure skill.

[@Hyperboid]

I fully agree that cheating in single-player games is perfectly acceptable. In fact, I should add that I find it extra-acceptable to cheat for the purposes of finding unused, inaccessible, and/or unseen content in games. Aw shucks, I just described the premise of Boundary Break, didn't I?

[@Tn5421Me]

I used to be a shitter who enjoyed ruining other people's good time. Now I only cheat in single player games, mostly to skip the grinding most games require these days.

[@Hyperboid]

Hey DT! Was 9:51, a joke about… you-know-what?

[@StrikerEureka85]

the problem nowadays is that, thanks to social media, we've become accustomed to quick wins and instant gratification. a lot of people don't want to put in the work that it takes to excel at something.

[@thomzwiefler6305]

In college I heard a similar talk with similar sentiments about an anthropology researcher postulating why some mischievous monkeys throw things at the regular monkeys that are just minding they're own buisness.. and at the end of the talk he basically minimized it too that some of the monkeys just wanna be mean to the other monkeys and there is really no other reason other than not caring abouy or realizing the social ramifications. Some people suck... and others follow the ones that sucks because monkey see. We are all just monkeys... well apes... we all throw shit once in awhile untill we actually hurt someone in the process... and then .... we grow up... or we don't haha nature is beautiful.

[@mariusskrupskis2042]

closed community servers is the only option we have against cheaters.

[@iodreamify]

I think it's a lot more than a "small percentage" of people who are aholes. Tournaments where you can win something for real are heavily monitored and they usually catch them. People cheat because they know they're ruining it for everybody else. Some want attention, others are just constant trolls online. For them ruining it for everybody else is almost like an extra game on top of the regular game and they get off on that feeling when somebody quits because of their cheating. And that's why unfortunately companies have to invest millions on anti cheats, which often ruin it for us linux folks.

[@mushroomcrepes4780]

I used to turn on moon gravity in mw2 lobbies, it was pretty fun

[@Supervideo1491]

Some cheaters, do so for monetary reasons. They will level up their characters or ranks, get certain items / rewards that most players highly sought after, so that they can sell their accounts to whoever seeking those rewards that were earned using cheats. Those sellers may hide the fact that they cheated to earn those ranks / rewards.

[@NiladriSarkar047]

These are actually rich father's daughter/son who were never said "NO" during their early days.

[@zaktheghost3289]

The only reason I can think of why someone would cheat in an online game is if they are disabled mentally or physically.

[@Sinthoras155]

I think the most important reason is that being better than the othersis fun If you for example have been sucking at this game, it's fun to be "the best" of the round and see the others suffering like you have. With the cheats, you are guaranteed to be better then the "normal" people. And thats not just with cheats. A lot of games may also have for example characters or weapons or something, that are hard to get but overpowered. the normal players will say "thats too op, nerf it" but the players who grinded for will enjoy playing it, bcs they have so much more kills with that weapon or whatever, the improvement to before is really satisfying. Cheating is just a way to skip the grind / get that feeling even if the game is just skill based and contains no grind. I got friends who play War Thunder, they always say "Hey i'm gonna grind that vehicle, its so op". They call them "bullying vehicles"

[@America_won]

The only cheat's I used in multiplayer was GTAV money glitches.

[@AlucardNoir]

There are a-holes that cheat to ruin other peoples fun. A-holes who are bad at the game and want to win no matter if it effects other people fun. A-holes who are lazy and just let the bot farm whatever it is they need for when they do play. They are A-hole who will acuse you of cheating if you're better than them. And then there are the people who provide a service - think shop bots in games that don't have an auction house because a bald New Zeelander thinks their ARPG should have trading but it should be a chore - but I digress.

[@demimob_]

Never expected DT to talk about this topic lol

[@hafihiafafggresgersgesgesg1293]

I wouldn't call this cheating but sometimes I use a hack in tf2 so that I can load some strictly visual mods in multiplayer, and since the game has a bit of a bot problem I can counter-cheat a little

[@jasonvega9942]

When I was younger playin hl online guys would cheat but quit before the match ended with the logic that their score didn't get recorded so it was ok. I pretty much gave up on mp because of cheaters.

[@Mrneilthompsonuk]

its why I rarely play online games anymore. some cheaters just build up levels in order to sell the accounts.

[@dreamer8973]

whenever i see someone cheating i just quit the game. it ruins the fun for me. i like putting in the effort to get good the normal way.

[@SwiatLinuksa]

Mr. Fluffy in real world, want be god n internet.... That's all. Thanks 4 video!

[@aemonwarrick4654]

I am certain they do it just to piss people off as a troll.

[@felchamp]

Guys. There are only 2 types of people cheating. 1. they are kids. 2. they are bad people, with mean character and personality. iF They cheat at onlines games most likely they will betry you as a friend or any situation in life. They cheat knowingly that they make others suffer and feel bad and dont even care. They are bad people.

[@Clobercow1]

Because their fathers didn't teach them sportsmanship and their mothers turned them into narcissists. It's a sign of a weak mind, cheating.

[@Mikkihiiri27]

I think they're just in it for ruining the game for everyone. You just discovered there exist people with malicious intent.

[@GmanForTheFreeman]

The more you cheat, the more draconian the anti cheat software becomes. The anti cheat software has become a the biggest barrier for Linux gaming.

[@fubaralakbar6800]

I think most cheaters are just trolls who enjoy pissing people off.

[@SIGSEGV200]

I accomplished the knowledge of reverse engineering the game technology without having the hassle to join the game studio just to view the source code and know how the game is working, and also the techniques its so called secret anti cheat system uses to detect the cheaters leveraging the OS functionality, however in case of opensource games , its fun to modify the code and make the game run according to your will, kinda gives ya the sense of power, I also agree that people shouldn't be jerk and ruin others fun just cuz they can, the people ik mostly does it cuz they wanna annoy other players lol

[@EagerEggplant]

Me after I lose my 6th warzone game of the day

[@PaulMrPKcom]

Cheating is multi milion business for those who offers those solutions. It's subscription based service that seems to be impossible to stop by the game makers. Games are "hacked" in teatime... As BF4 player since ages (always without cheats) it's extremely irritating of course. I think that to be able to play and be "good" it almost required to use cheats. :). Same story with many other games, terrible but no body seems to care... fps online games are basically destroyed and unplayable on pc at least

[@alexcerzea]

the most cheat I used was to lower the difficulty

[@AIC_onyt]

people do it for feeling superior. i play counterstrike with friends in a 5stack and we always have russian kids on the enemy team who cheat when they start losing. we are always winning 8:2 and then they start headshoting through walls, peaking corners you wouldn't peak if you didn't have cheats, having 100% headshot rate etc. some people are just losers who can't handle losing

[@next629]

I was cheating in gta san andreas multiplayer back in 2007 just for fun. People would get angry when I used minigun

[@SlavMachine]

You were a loser hopefully you changed.

[@t.mollov566]

game industry, same as sport industry, is a just another business, that is why.

[@MG-qj2zh]

Currently seen on CS2 the game is dead and unusable. 👎 iI agree with you 100%

[@gowenrv3762]

There is "Pay-to-Win"... I think this is also cheating. For example playing "World of Tanks".... if you pay real cash, then you can have better stuff. This leaves the skill out.

[@alpham777]

It is but everyone has the option to legally do it in the game. I just don't play them they suck anyway.

[@Hid4ri]

I have given up on fps online games. Pvp ones anyway. Some people cheat to be pranksters, because they are so bad they have to be fake and some just like to do it as they feel like hackers. Its boring so i just dont bother with it. I think the improvements of AI in gaming will make PVE rise up, games like ready or not or ground branch, will become king. But the AI needs to improve, which it certainly will very soon. Then there will still be hackers and cheaters, but its then like single olayer games, it is only affecting themselves.

[@robinheizler2828]

I wonder the most about Rainbow Six Siege cheaters. Watch 1 Video of Yo Boy Roy and theirs not a single second in which those Cheaters hide their stuff. I woud see Wallhacks or something but what they do is just so pointless. Its just ruining the games for 9 Others...

[@timlangley8926]

well said

[@frankcar5353]

Sounds like a more skilled player beat you and you could not handle it and started calling them a cheater. Do all people who pwn you badly cheat? I bet they do.

[@jackburton8352]

IDGAF about gaming cheaters the cheaters i worry about are those real life cheaters who cheated to get themselves into high positions making decisions or choices that affects peoples lives or life those individuals are the real despicable cheaters.

[@bigmikeobama5314]

a throne is only ever supported by peoples belief in its legitimacy. as long as there is a throne, as long as the belief in authority exists, humanity will never be free

[@Luclecool123]

Especially when taking someone's place by doing so

[@clockblower6414]

Thoseare probably the same people lol. Once a cheat always a cheat

[@mavfan1]

🙄

[@elvisoIiveira]

I cheat on RO because I want to overcome the tech challenges and improve the open-source tools used to do it.. writing code for the bot is like having double fun, besides, grinding is tedious lol And for those who are wondering.. yes, there are many open-source cheating communities

[@x0j]

yep, real programmers don't goon all day in a game. They tinker. I can already tell the OP of this video is not a real programmer.

[@damianateiro]

The majority of cheaters are people with very fragile egos and who do not want them in their close circles, be it family or work, and I say this because I know many like that, if you beat them they will all get fired xd. I only met 2 cool cheaters: one in tf2 who just started killing another cheater and a couple of bots and a crazy guy who out of nowhere in GTA v gave 40 million dollars as a gift (because the truth is I wasn't going to farm that xd )

[@Arnoud-nf6iz]

its just lazyness anti cheat is not expansive.. just look for sites selling that shit.. install it and change some codes in games so the game doesnt work with it and thats it. what / 100 dollar or something

[@thegreatboto]

Never cheated online myself, though, offline/single player "cheating" via actual cheats (as in, the ones the game has built in) or mods, that's all fair game because it's your game experience and it doesn't impact anyone else's experience. In a very very analog comparison, if you want to dig through the deck to find a card you need for your solitaire game, that's all you. Or, if you want to play with all the cards face up, that's also all up to you. The only online cheating I might understand is kinda subversive where someone that manages online gameplay servers recognizes who cheaters are and works to put them all in the same game together. Let them play by different rules; see who the better cheaters are. Then let everyone else who wants to enjoy the vanilla experience do so. I remember hearing about this happening in some games, but they weren't games that I played, so I don't have a ready example. I can understand the self-esteem deficiency aspect, but would rather they find healthier ways to boost that than ruin others' experiences. "Smurfing" in skills-based games where there's a ranking/tier system to help sort players into similar skill levels also fits in with ruining game experiences for others. I can understand it happening in a few cases, like if you want to queue and play with a friend who's at a different skill tier than you, it's unavoidable almost. Or if for some reason you needed to start all over and work your way back up to where you should be. Otherwise, I agree, cheating and artificially inflating your chances of winning in a skills-based game ruins the experience for everyone else. With a few exceptions, I mostly play single player or offline these days since there aren't many new games that catch my fancy and I've a healthy backlog of games that I haven't gotten to yet. Tangent comment, always-online single player can bite me. Also, unintentional mini essay..

[@Technopath47]

I remember, back in the day when I still played Mario Kart Wii, I got SO sick of the cheaters that I learned how to hack the game specifically so I could troll the cheaters into oblivion. I managed to give myself certain keybindings that let me switch my controller layout from the standard to a sort of macro-mode so I could bring up my "weapons" created from various items and tweaks to the game. I gave myself the ability to lightning, shell, speed up, go invincible, and all sorts of other attacks that let me target cheaters. I only ever activated the cheats when a cheater started using their hacks (and it was always very obvious) and I would give them a bad day letting the rest of the players actually complete the race like normal. I've got no problem with modifying the single-player mode, I found some really fun stuff in Mario Galaxy 2 for instance, but please please please do not mess with multiplayer while we're just trying to have fun.

[@wrathofsocrus]

A lot of it has to do with agency. Someone cheated them, someone bullies them IRL, or they can't get away with griefing people IRL without consequences, so they do it anonymously. Then again I remember playing a game with rampant cheating many years ago and I was always getting kicked for cheating when I didn't cheat. Everyone would run around crouched, so I would stand up around a corner and people would literally put their head in perfect headshot position. I had around a 50:1 kill/death ratio because people were terrible. I'm not even that good, they were just so bad and salty about it. Meanwhile guys crouched in the corner headshotting people as they spawn wouldn't get kicked. The internet is bizarre.

[@SerGlushko]

I've only cheated in an online game once. About 12 years ago I was playing this Minecraft server that had 2 separate leveling tracks based on the amount of blocks you placed/destroyed. There was a juicy unlock at about 350k blocks, so I found a speed hack and powered through the final 100k blocks in about a day after playing for a few months. A couple months later I got banned for 60 days for that and paid like 5 bucks to skip the time :D Kept my perks and enjoyed the game for about a year after that. No regrets

[@ashleyadam955]

I don't cheat at all

[@user-zn3zx6fk7u]

maybe they are bots? so the purpose is growing the community, i suppose

[@Drazo988]

it's in our DNA. How do you think we exterminated the Nanderthals? I don't support cheaters, but they will always be there

[@Fareke2]

There is also difference between cheaters. For example i have cheats for GTA V and some cheaters just spawn kill you and ruin your game. I use it so me and my friends can get some decent pay in the game and if you do the missions it feels rewarding withojt the cheats you get close to nothing for a lot of work. But we play in private lobby so we dont bother anybody.

[@tacticalcenter8658]

Sounds like a skill issue.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Those that cheat in online games just piss me off, but even worse is that they can ruin the game in other ways. I was playing an online team game and apparently one of the players on the team was a cheater. Something I wasn't able to confirm and don't understand how it supposedly worked, but I got lumped in with them and kicked and banned from the server. Kind of made me hate that game because every server I connected to afterwards only had bots to play against. I don't know if they had some global list and added me to it, but because others cheated I got screwed. As far as single player games are concerned, the only time I've ever cheated is to extend the life of the game, and in those instances it can make the game more fun to have weapons where the game designers didn't want you to have them in a particular level. Take for instance levels where you're never given a rocket launcher but having one would make it infinitely more fun. It doesn't matter if you can beat that level without it, it just makes it more fun. Hopefully, cheating in a few single player games doesn't get me lumped in with malicious cheaters, but people do like to generalize and shit on others for every perceived slight.

[@MerkDolf]

Oh wow aim bots.

[@Straitjacket-Fits]

"They" are ruining the game alright.

[@armanis1234]

most cheat make money

[@xeiAiex]

when I was a kid, I was really into programming, hacking, and stuff like that. I also loved this game that I was playing and I wondered if I had the skill to hack it. so I did that and I wanted to see if I could do more and more, get this to work and get that to work. I ended up with such a long list of crazy cheats for that game and I was proud that I had made it myself. But I also hated that I was contributing to ruining my favorite game and eventually I gave my cheats to the anti-cheat and many, many people got banned for using my cheats, which in a way, made me feel a little better about it lol. I shouldn't have ever released it to the public but I guess that if they weren't using mine, they would have been using something else. At least this way I was able to get them all banned eventually.

[@xperience-evolution]

Did you play "Beyond all reasons"? A pretty impressive community made strategy Game with Linux support (Appimage or Flatpak). Free of charge. Topic: Online Game cheaters need something to feel better. They cheat themselves and can destroy the Game they like to play

[@tostadorafuriosa69]

tbh sometimes cheating on a SP game is just fun. Did a a playthrought of pokemon pearl with cheats and i had a blast. It was a really fun way of playing though the game differently and more quickly. You can take usually 30H of playtime from start to completing the pokemon leage and i did it in 15. Also the pokemon events are locked by ojects you can only obtain throught events and now your oly way to accest them is by cheats. Also considering last time i used cheats in pokemon was like 10 years ago it was fun remembering those simpler times when i was a kid. I would not cheat on an onlie game unless we are all using mods or something but i dont see the appeal unless you could get money or something.

[@arandomfox999]

Come on, when you're a child cheating in DOOM was just more fun. You got all the cool guns and your childlike brain wasn't constantly wrecked by poor ammo or weapon management. SP cheats can also just be a different type of game. Sometimes skipping tedious mechanics just elevates the experience, probably because a lot of devs want to brag about how long their game is they artificially slow it all down.

[@humbledgaming382]

NPD

[@tambuchalinux]

I think the main reason is that it makes people look better than they actually are. Until they get caught that is. Funny thing is my son got called a cheater in Dota2 because he levelled up so fast in rank.. lol. No he's just very good and he follows pro players to get tips and tricks from them on KZbin. He is waayy above my level even though I've played for longer 😢.

[@iwanttoramble9545]

The only times i have cheated were in minecraft. Most of it being anarchy servers (hacker versus hacker, so no one is cheated in that situation.) The other times were when i used to join minehut servers to troll specifically players who would not white list their servers and when you join, tell you to leave. These minehut servers would occupy a huge portion of the server lists to the point joining a random server would just have people yell at you. Selecting the white list option was literally just a button press and it would allow people to play specifically with only their friends. Instead people were too lazy to figure it out. So i just used it as a way to speed up me griefing them. Which in retrospect might be dumb, but it gets annoying after a while when all you wanna do is play a game.

[@plutorocks1]

Back days I was obsessed with android gaming and was pretty darn hard for me to leap from 1 to 999999999 coins. Android more or less allows to break through through flashing and root with tools like SuperSU or King Root. Those let me grab infinite numbers of coins to buying bulks subway surfers keys to exotic cars and jets. Those were more than anything I've cheated to myself and game developers lol