Ditch Your Old Thinking (with Roger L. Martin)

Today, Commander Divine speaks with Roger L. Martin, best-selling author of A NEW WAY TO THINK: Your Guide to Superior Management Effectiveness where he urges leaders to toss out the old ways of thinking, and instead try new models in every domain of management. In the episode, Roger shares his expertise and rich experience working with the world’s most powerful CEOs and businesses to rethink how they think.
Key Takeaways:
Create like a designer. Today’s markets require less structure and more culture. A culture of creation and designing, which requires employees and leaders to think of new possibilities constantly. This is the way of the future.
Be ready to pivot, like a SEAL. The elite teams and business leaders all think similarly - they know that plans are only temporary and the real work comes when they get into the field. Real leadership requires agility & trust in your team to create the next answers.
Imagination, visualization, and clarity. Mark and Roger connect on how the SEALs use imagery to ensure the team has a collective vision of how the operation will work. By using imagery, visualization is possible, and cohesion is achieved.
The best leaders attack VUCA; they don’t wait. Roger shares his angst for leaders that wait for VUCA to disappear to act, which Mark agrees makes for a block in information and productivity. Instead, act amidst VUCA to attain information more quickly. Expect to fail, and iterate.

[@harryzumaque9125]

Awesome and full of insights. Clear takeaways: - VUCA is here to stay. We need to step up to it and lead. - how do you do strategy in VUCA: make bold choices, document your assumptions and expectations, observe during execution, and adjust if anything you held to be true isn't - how do you create the matching culture: model it for the team, and trust them to take the right decisions under pressure. You need to get results fast, not have nice, backward looking PowerPoints. Thank you Cmdr Divine for sharing, and Prof. Martin for the new book!

[@Elisaelias25]

I have learnt more in the hour it took to listen to this podcast than in many years at business school!

[@gerlindechristina238]

Love the interview - there's a lot of subtle depth to both your inputs, thank you for offering up the conversation!

[@jtrubkat]

This was a fantastic interview!

[@vikmanik704]

Love the show Mark, thank you

[@Tordaws]

This is really terrific. I'm watching as many Martin videos as I can and this is so deep. Have and read the book as well as many others. Thanks!!

[@cassadams1404]

Went from listening to Jeezy interview to this… soaking in all information

[@everythingisfake7555]

46:23: If something would have had to be true, turns out not to be true, we don’t just plow through, we say what way would we adjust for that. But if you didn’t think in advance about the things that would have to be ttue, you don’t know if something that happens is undermining of the logic of the model or not.