Diving Deep into Hmong History with a College Professor

[@jackjohnson1255]

I'm enjoying this podcast a lot, I'm not Hmong but I grew up in a part of Fresno CA with a big Hmong community and had some friends that were Hmong. I remember going to my friend's house, seeing the Hmong new year celebrations, etc and recognizing how deep the culture and history was but not knowing the context of where they came from and how they got here, so this has been really good to learn about some of that. I'm a son of Mexican immigrants and we have a lot of the same problems of identity and trying to find the balance between conserving our culture while also fitting in here in America so that was very relatable as well. Thanks for the knowledge and I hope you're all doing well!

[@brianlevine5213]

My Dad had a lot of respect for the Hmong he met in Vietnam.Anyone who hunted tigers with wooden spear was someone you wanted as your friend.

[@takumithao1992XD]

That is an ancient tradition of the Hmong, back when tigers were prevalent in all territories in China and southeast Asia, they're a pest & a killer that hunted the elderly & children of the villages. we modern Hmong don't practice that anymore as you can understand, instead we explore other avenues in this modern world. N the wooden/bamboo spear or dull metal tip as explained by my father, most remembered by the Jungle Hmong, is due to the fact we wanted them to die slowly, to etch into their soul that actions have consequences. But in return, many myths & legends comment that the tigers/spirits/gods/GOD, have decided to curse the Hmong people, that the worse of us & the gifted, may turn into Tigers, either during their next lifetime or at this lifetime, lost to insanity, extreme fanatic individualism or misfortunate psychotic tendencies to balance the karmic scale.

[@domluminati427]

I also cried watching this and other documentaries about Hmong people. We, the Hmong folks have been through so many trials and tribulations from China, Vietname, Laos, Thailand and even here in the states. I think by now we should have learned our lessons but we haven't yet learn to love, help and support our own people. There are countless Hmong heroes that paved the way for all of us here in the states, Australia, France and other western countries yet I am sadden that many well educated Hmong folks today refused to acknowledge these folks that died so we can be here today and enjoyed the American way of life and be where we are today. Many Hmong folks viewed and hated leaders and heroes like GVP, Lao vets, elders, USA as evils, villians, killers ,etc thats we, the Hmong, never had any heroes in our lives so they would say TGX is a hero for us Hmong people. He is in a sense that he was a voice for many as an activist when "applicable" and a "comedian" if you will a d not to discredit him for the few protest he went to or gone to see any of his comedic performance. My point is HEROES come in many shapes, sizes and forms and all of these folks are our heroes. To some, a hero can be an actress/actor, to another, a police officer or a politcian but to the majority of folks, a true hero is someone that made a big impact in the lives of so many, saved countless lives, sacrificed his/her/their lives for many and lived out their remaining life as a good human being or a role model for all of us to see and follow. But to say we had no heroes is just simply very ignorant and disrespectful to those who died and paved the way for all of us. In life we have to take to bad along with the good as the saying goes, you can't have the best of both worlds just as there is no perfect human being. As a college educated Hmong male in the states, had my own businesses for two decades, studied Hmong history on the side (not an expert), from China to the U.S, enjoy my many privilleges as an American citizen, I honored and respected the GVP, Lao Vets, the elders, teachers, doctors, lawyers, professors, police officers, soldiers, a good mother/father, son, daughter, and the U.S that took us into their country. You all for your services and blood sacrifices and you all are my heroes as each of you had made a differrence/impact one way or another. Thank you all and please continue to be a good human being.

[@unalienablejustice7137]

TGX is and was never a hero whatsoever. Maybe to the few ignorant poorly educated Hmong kids he seemed entertaining like Barney or Elmo? But to anyone who is educated, dignified, and of sound mind TGX is nothing more than a charlatan, joke, and an imposter. Some claim he is a comedian. More like a fool because none of his slap stick jokes or nonsense was funny. Just immature childish BS. It is why the fool met a fool's fate. But good to know you acknowledge true Hmong heroes like the elders, leaders, and intellects including GVP who all made monumental sacrifices for all the Hmong to first and foremost still be alive and secondly to prosper today in the West. Too many ungrateful uneducated and disrespectful Hmong especially today are just too narrow-minded to appreciate value and avow their sacrifices and heroism.

[@NC-oc3ld]

Thanks for this podcast. I'm Vietnamese and my family escaped Vietnam with me when I was 4. We never knew about the Hmong. Through out my life, I've only heard faint references to the Hmong people in the context that the Hmong people were just some small indigenous uncivilized group of people living in the jungle. Sort of like the tribes in the Amazon that have never had contact with the outside world. It wasn't until recently that I started to research my own history that I learned more about the Hmong people and their rich culture and how our paths were parallel. I'm learning about the Hmong culture through the Vietnamese Hmong living in the northern part of Vietnam, such as Sapa and Lao Cai. I'm just amazed that there's this culture that exists beyond borders of several countries and the world seems a lot more beautiful with the Hmong people in it.

[@leeaznmode]

well...one of the last big leader of the hmong vietnamese fought with the last Nguyen king , he called himself the king of hmong in vietnam and was a Vang,his descendant are still living in the house/mansion preserving his part of hmong history

[@GeneralMoss]

soon I'll have a Hmong Vietnamese dog

[@luevang9801]

I genuinely enjoyed this episode. I was a baby when my parents came to the US. I grew up with American culture, but now in my 30s i find the importance of trying to retain my hmong cultural practices. It was very educating on how the history of war linked the hmong people in to world history. I would hope to see an episode on the history of hmong people from and in China. We hear so much of we came from China, but we've never heard who we were in China. I'd like learn about that some day if possible.

[@WRaven055]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpC2mmehe9utha8 not too sure how accurate this video is, but it should be a good starting point.

[@aliasdoe007]

I would highly recommend you do the fact-finding and research yourself when it comes to Hmong/Miao history in China or in SE Asia or the West. This way you will intimately be immersed to not only appreciate the knowledge acquired but have first hand accounts and experiences by your own efforts versus being spoonfed by second hand or somewhat bias narratives. More importantly you will have gained scholarly facts and not hearsay or wives' tales which are all fantasies. This way you can defend support and reference whatever knowledge facts and historical findings you acquired whenever questioned. I speak from my own personal research and experiences. As I matter of fact I encourage all Hmong to take this approach as intellects instead of being ignorant bystanders.

[@smellsFlSHY]

I'm australian vietnamese, 1st generation born and raised in the real land of opportunity and the hmong people and their lost history is fascinating. They're the south-east asian gypsies that were forgotten.

[@sherwpinkhair]

I have a Hmong friend. I enjoy this to have better understanding; that i may be a better friend.❤

[@stevewhitton8671]

I too am enjoying learning about the struggles that the Hmoung people have had in Laos and this country. I was stationed at Ubon, Thailand in the Air Force in 1969. I had no idea about what was taking place in Laos during that time and into the '70's I did know that the North Vietnamese were using the trails for supplies. But that was it. I did not know about General Van Pao. What a visionary and hero to the Hmoung people!! I applauded you for educating as many as you can. I wish I could have done something myself in the mid 70's and '80'

[@Pennie123]

The first two minutes resonated so much with me. I am Hmong trying to learn the American ways. So much truth in this statement. I remember vividly being 3 years old in one of the refugee camps. Food was scarce, so I would walk to this tiny market when my parents weren’t watching me. I would stare at the food until the owner took pity on me and gave me a snack. I also recall my first American meal on the flight over to the US. It was a hamburger. Thank you guys for sharing. ❤

[@bluebunny0921]

i just ran across this podcast episode and basically crying 😢😢

[@northbay4619]

You know who would be an interesting person to have on this podcast? Hmong teachers who teach Hmong culture and language to the youth. They will give you a real perspective about the future of Hmong culture as they're the ones who know the attitudes of the next generation. Let me be the one to tell you all that it's very gloomy. By the time Hmong youths realize how important it is to retain their native tongue and history, it's almost too late. It is an eye-opener for anybody whose ever cared about the Hmong people and their progress.

[@longlee2098]

I just found out about this podcast and I'm loving it! Cant wait to listen to the rest. Keep up the good work and thanks so much for being a big inspiration for us hmong people.

[@maythao3977]

Thank you for hosting this podcast. It gives a lot of hope that some parts of our Hmong history will be learned and passed on.

[@beedic]

This is so true growing up as Hmong American and marrying to non-hmong. I’m searching for what makes me hmong and what is our history.

[@stevewhitton8671]

I wish you blessings

[@RHCollector]

Do you hate yourself?

[@bnyang84]

This was amazing. So much new info to take in. Keep up the great work. The only thing I wasnt sure was, what was so funny??!!. 🤣

[@kkato7885]

Lee Pao Xiong, keep up the good work.

[@maisiafang]

Such a great, informational, and eye-opening podcast. Thank you Yia for bringing Professor Lee Pao to share his knowledge of our people.

[@blongthao7845]

This was such a amazing podcast. I’ve learned so much and had a emotional epiphany of realization. Thank you guys

[@jonyang6982]

Thank you for having this podcast! Keep up with the good job!

[@takenname8053]

Being the youngest of 14 I’ve got the story of my parents from my older siblings. I’m really happy that I found this :)

[@yingvang406]

When we, Hmong, were fleeing the country in May 1975, our fellow Lao folks siding with Royal Lao government were so happy in celebrating the unification of the country in major towns and cities until they came to realize months later in December that the peace agreement to reunify the country was fake and then ran after us, the Hmong.

[@n.listeeb1955]

Yes. ALL Vietnam War "Lao refugees" left Laos on the backs of Hmong/GVP loyalists. #HMOOBtsidogdig

[@chormoua1]

This is my first podcast that I've listen from you and this is amazing and very inspirational. Thank you!

[@ccramit]

I regret not asking my grandmother more questions when she was alive. She passed away in 2001 when I was 16. I made sure to ask my parents questions after that. And I got some info from them, but even my dad doesn't know my grandmother's entire story. Young people, ask these questions while you still have time. Don't end up regretting it later on. I also feel angry with myself about how I acted as a child. I was 1 when my parents came to this country. I got angry when they would parent me differently from my American friends and got impatient often with them for not knowing the answers to everything. I was so stupid and naive. When I think about all the fights we had because we had culture clashes, it makes me sad. I didn't realize how difficult it was for them to entwr a country they knew nothing about and start a brand new life. As an adult, it sometimes brings me to tears when I think about how ungrateful and selfish I was. I have a brand new appreciation for my parents and am doing everything in my power to make sure they are comfortable for the rest of their lives. I used to complain about not having the best clothes and shoes, and then realized later on how spoiled I actually was. My parents spent so many years hiding in the jungle fwaring for their lives and there I was complaining because I didn't always have new shoes. God, I was so stupid. My parents had to worry about not having enough food to eat or soldiers killing them and I am complaining about shoes.

[@harryv6752]

Just came across this podcast out of the blue. Good stuff there. From one Hmong brotha to another, keep on rockin'! Subscribed.🤙

[@IveBeenChris]

Awesome podcast. Keep it up brothers. ❤

[@bboyshinny]

Thank you so much i learnt so much here :D So if my father fought in the secret war as a soldier but lost all his document afterwards can he still regain some type of benefits like all his Hmong veterans??

[@RoseNZieg]

interesting session. as with all things it's condensed and missing many things but was still pretty accurate. young people who forget their history will never learn.

[@cxiong2]

Loved the video keep it up 💯👍🏼

[@thungchang1888]

Reason why I subscribed! #proudHmong!

[@MikeyLee559]

Most of this stuff Hmoob kids should know already its sad that alot of Hmoob kids don't know or want to learn these days, the struggles of how our parents and grandparents had to go through for us to be here. The real question is where did Hmong people really come from in China and before China.

[@jamesxiong8475]

Chinese archeologist found earliest Hmong DNA by the yellow river in South China and there are still a large population in those areas as well, so it's highly possible that's where we settled until the Han came. Before that, noone knows

[@MikeyLee559]

@James Xiong also another topic that alot of Hmoob professors don't speak about too much is we can't trace is our individual family trees, for example meeka people can trace their genes and history all the way to their great great great great grand parents Meanwhile we barely dont even know who our great grandparents were and only hear stories of them if we were lucky.

[@MikeyLee559]

@@jamesxiong8475 there needs to be some DNA testing from Hmoob all over the world to see how much different we are compared to Hmoob Chinese. I can guarantee you that the genes and the test will shock all of us.

[@SuperShogee]

Wow, so much Hmong history to digest from this podcast. Thank you for doing this chef Yia Vang and for being a shining example to look up to. I wish you many blessings and future success.

[@vangthao4624]

I would love to talk to this man. The smart one.

[@skv23]

Thank you! Beautiful and inspiring.

[@Soso_moi]

Where can I find their first conversation?

[@chynue]

Great video

[@inm2967]

I'm surpised a lot of hmong don't know much and i've travel around the countries. One thing about our hmong people is that we don't go out exploring and understanding the whole world in general. Our hmong people tends to just like staying in their circle and not expand their knowledge nor horizon. We had been around way befor their were countries back in the kangaskhan era. We were mostly in the jungle/forest building our own villages and got caught up in the kangaskhan conqueration with the mongolians. After Kangaskhan past away, the mongolians got push down south where they now have a country. our people were scattered throughout asia and mostly in china til then china started to push the hmongs that didn't want to lived in a country of dictatorship, cantonese, taiwaneses all of the minorities that's not chinese out of the country. So a lot of hmong people here will hear that story that some of their ancestors came from china or used to speak chinese. That's just during those decades but like i've said befor that the hmong people were already scattered throughout asia living peacefully in the jungles/forest away from all the crazy country dramas and expanding their family/villages. Nowadays, our Hmong people has been soo scattered that our accents and dialects has changed into soo many sounds and pronouncation. (Just like how english can be different when you go to british or australia even though that's they main language. They may be spoken the same but some terms/words may be different in definition nor pronouncation.) So there fore, as you guys see the white dialects is more dominate in america but it's due to the environment that they now lived in. But if you Look at the hmongs that's scattered to other countries and has expand their hmong family branches there, they'll sound different too due to their environment. For say, like in china there's a hmong chinese with the last nam ziang, xiang and are mostly known as the miao and Some of the Hans. We have hmong people in Norht vietnam, Thailand due to the vietnam war that we've gotten involved with, Laos and some of cambodia (Which was one of the country that got mostly bombed during the war). Anyways, Nowadays there's hmong people all over the world, even in africa. After the war a lot of the hmong that took the plane has been scattered even more. So you can pretty much find hmong people throughout the world know due the chanllenges and struggles our people has face due to the wars and dictatorships. Our people and ancestors just wanted to lived in Peace but due to all that it made our circumstance hard and has made many changes throughout history. I know this is irrelevant tp what i said about hmong history since it's my personal opinion but I might as well say it and POST IT HERE. So they can read it. *Our ancestors has fought many wars and dictatorships just to have a peaceful life and good upbringings. But it breaks my soul, to see our own hmong people that's involved in gangs fighting and killing each other after the world peace that our ancestor had to fought so hard against to bring us to where we are here. It's a Shame that the war the younger hmong generations (hmong gangs In general) fighting against isn't for peace but with each other instead of uplifting and helping each other.* Here's some fun facts that might change a lot of people's horizon and knowledges about our hmong people in general. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYevgpmhZ8SFgZI&pp=ygUNaG1vbmcgY2hpbmVzZQ%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKnKqJKterSod8U&pp=ygUWaG1vbmcgY2hpbmVzZSBuZXcgeWVhcg%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3mmh5qel6Z6jac&pp=ygUWaG1vbmcgbmV3IHllYXIgdmlldG5hbQ%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXvYgaN-f9uGZ7M&pp=ygUYaG1vbmcgYXVzdHJhbGlhIG5ldyB5ZWFy kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH7JXnmIoZiZpqs&pp=ygUTaG1vbmcgc291dGggYW1lcmljYQ%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn-0lWV4rdOIkNk&pp=ygUTaG1vbmcgc291dGggYW1lcmljYQ%3D%3D kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4O0q6Jonpl-iac&pp=ygURaG1vbmcgaW4gdGhhaWxhbmQ%3D

[@Gotfish]

18:46 𞄅𞄪𞄲𞄚𞄧𞄴𞄤𞄚𞄤𞄰𞄨𞄈𞄨𞄳𞄂𞄤𞄳𞄬 𞄐𞄦𞄰𞄤𞄎𞄫𞄰𞄚𞄧𞄲𞄤𞄔𞄬𞄱 𞄅𞄨𞄳𞄀𞄤?? 𞄎𞄨𞄲𞄗𞄄𞄦𞄤𞄎𞄫𞄰𞄎𞄬𞄱 𞄁𞄦𞄴𞄃𞄤𞄨 𞄃𞄤𞄴𞄼. You have not heard about the Nyiakeng Puachue script? Also, you might have missed a lot of details about the Hmong history.

[@OhGodisaLiar]

Go read Harvesting Pachay’s (Pachai) Wheat by Keith Quincy. When I was 22 in college and could not stay focus on reading even when I was in the library. Then one day I discovered Quincy’s book, and since that day I became a reader. I studied Hmong history with Chinese history and I realized that many of our sufferings were caused by our own people who wanted to profit by siding with the enemies. Because 99% of Hmong during this time were illiterate, the few smart ones exploited the illiterate ones for their own benefits. Hmong we’re coerced and exploited by our own and Vang Pao was manipulated by French and American imperialism. There are two sides to the story of Vang , the Hmong and the Secret War in Laos. The most popular one is that Vang Pao and the US CIA were right. But that is not the true story. Some of the things these guys talk about are on point with factual history. But they are missing the other side. If I was born during the Secret War, I would not have sided with Vang Pao but the other side.

[@leeaznmode]

i'm a lor from lor kiatoob clan ,his son lao blia yao faydang was a complete A hole too greedy of power... i know that from asking my elders ..they told me during WW2 he sided with the japanese and hunted men from his own clan because they didn't want to fight , my grandfather and his father had to hide among Touby lyfoung 's family just to survive that hunt....and history showed that lor bliayao faydang ended on the communist side,only earning a medal given by the pathet lao when he died

[@aliasdoe007]

A lot of Hmong old and new alike who has biases towards GVP is missing (ungrateful to) the simplest facts of facts. Foremost is that before GVP's leadership all Hmong regardless of political and/or economic status specifically Npliaj Yob Lauj and Tub Npis Lis Foom were merely puppets and pawns of both Lao and French who were exploiting the Hmong for personal gains. Two GVP provided academic opportunities that never had existed for all Hmong and even paved the way for a few Hmong intellects to get a Western education namely Yaj Dao who in turn became his primary adversary to this day. Three if not for GVP no Hmong person living freely and thriving in the West would not even be alive today period. These are facts which cannot be detailed nor justified in simple paragraphs or narratives. Why do you think Hmong revere so much except his enemies? The level of ignorance and bias towards GVP is not only appalling but utterly pure narrowmindedness. I have read Harvesting Pachay’s (Pachai) Wheat by Keith Quincy among other East and Western scholarships by Hmong and non-Hmong during my Hmong history research so unlike a lot of Hmong I am quite familiar with most if not all of Hmong history. Additionally I have had intimate conversations with many Hmong elders leaders and intellects who had firsthand knowledge account and experiences to gain insight further into Hmong history that is undocumented in any scholarships. All the Hmong who did not side with GVP or in your words "I would have sided ... the other side." are all dead (the Lao King and royal family, Tub Npis Ly Foom, Faiv Ntaj Hawj, Npliaj Yob Lauj etc. To this day all their descendants (the other side) in SE Asia are no better than their impoverished neighbors. This is fact.

[@27gv]

We don't have much information about Hmong's role in WWII. That's the beginning prior to General Vang Pao and the Vietnam Era.

[@jamesxiong8475]

You need to do more research. We have documentation from Hmong before WW2. The beginning was Pachai Vue who fought the French because of taxation and racial oppression from Laos and Thais. After that the French recognized Hmong and gave them a bit more freedom so that they wouldn't revolt anymore. This caused Hmong to side with the French during WW2 because the Lyfong family issues and wanting power.

[@jamesxiong8475]

And yes we did encounter the Japanese and fought against them but it wasn't long because the French gave up on Indochina. We Hmong have a word for Japanese, if we have a word for it, it means somewhere down the line we have encountered them. Same for Mexicans and blacks and other races we have a word for.

[@RHCollector]

​@@jamesxiong8475yipoon sounds Laotian. Idk Laotian but it could have come from Lao language.

[@stephaniecha4898]

Wow… our English is so good now.

[@DJsaintpaulstudios]

Nice channel bro

[@ABGDIVINE414]

But didnt they kill shong lue yang in 1971?

[@Juicycandt]

This professor laughs at the odds times

[@_FunctionONE]

Some people just have the laughs.

[@TinSher2013]

I am Knyaw, also know as Karen, fortunate to be in US and brought here as refugees. But one thing I am scared is, the history of Karen people will fading after generations.

[@virtuaguyverify]

Hmong is slowly fading here in the US, so that's normal and there's nothing you can do

[@drama4you_]

My parents told me the Chinese took our hat. As I researched the Qing dynasty hat belongs to us.

[@brucelee5576]

Live this podcast. But I disagree you don’t have to sacrifice your language to learn English, honestly little kids can learn 5 languages at one time. Also this OG know his stuff.

[@Pokefanatics06]

My kids didn't even know their hmong I told then their hmong and they say what's that

[@takenname8053]

So true, asked my nephew what race he was in front of his mother (my sister) and he said he was white 💀 Corrected him really quick.

[@RHCollector]

This is mostly your fault tbf to the kids

[@tranquilitybase7860]

I am here because of Clint Eastwood. 😂❤

[@jillianngunzel9897]

I’m not Hmong. I was raised in Nevada as a Baptist by my southern mama then found Islam. There weee a few Hmong in the area not a large community like cali. My husbands family fled war and multiple times in their history. My father in law had a Kalashnikov pointed at his head at 8 by a grown man and marched with his widow mother & 6 other siblings. And many more and even worse stories. It kills me knowing so many millions of children are paying the price for

[@V1CT0RY]

Yall still Miaos to us!! 🐱

[@KevinVang1000]

As I recall, we came from China because of Emperor Chiyou/Huab Tais Txiv Yawg.

[@virtuaguyverify]

It's confirmed per Ancestry DNA test, we are mostly Chinese

[@KevinVang1000]

@@virtuaguyverifyNot everyone! Just because Abraham had sex with Haggar, the Egyptian slave, to bring out Ishmael, that doesn't make them Jews. You can say that they came from Chiyou, who had three wives, while the other wives were concubines. Hmong and Han Chinese are cousins by blood, but that doesn't mean they are 100% the same. Ishmael and Isaac are still killing each other today by looking at the tribe. Han Chinese are the bastard children of Chiyou, while the Hmong and the Koreans are legit married.

[@bassqueens]

hmong not miao/mongolian kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHKpko2ggZijZ8Usi=d4JBjxv6m_qkuOCz

[@stoneaged5064]

Dude we all know we came from China, we are natives to that land even before the Han came down. And Chiyou wasn't an emperor, he was a warlord/general of the Miao tribes which implies that he could have not been Hmong. Miao were composed of many ethnic tribes such as Mien and early Thais. No one will truly know

[@KevinVang1000]

@@stoneaged5064 Chiyou had many wives, I agree; however, he prefers down to three while the rest were concubines. He was a king at best.

[@vuetube4558]

I've always said....anyone who is born in the refugee camps and move here are are rightfully call HMONG AMERICAN....but anyone who is born here should be called AMERICAN HMONG.

[@beaniegamer9163]

This is all politics... to stay in position and get free pay. 😮

[@Luis-y3w6w]

Thank you for sharing the Hmong history. 😡

[@sheenalauj8441]

wait til we tell the our story of the orphan hmong king of hmong's kingdom: Tuam Tsaoj (Da Chao)... Hint: it's definitely Genghis Khan.!

[@stoneaged5064]

Its surprising to me how illiterate people are when it comes down to history. If you are proud to be Hmong, you should at least know Hmong history at least starting from Pachai Vue's war. These are the events that will shape us to who we are and what we are today. It didn't start with GVP, he was actually the most recent figure only for us. Yal need to learn about the Lo and Ly clan and how they shaped Hmong up to become what we are today.

[@aliasdoe007]

Lor (Lo) and Lee (Ly) did not shape Hmong up to become what we are today. Any Hmong worthy of deserving that accolade is exclusively GVP despite anyone's bias or hearsay rhetoric. When you say Lo and Ly pretty sure you are referring to Npliaj Yob Lauj and Tub Npis Lis Foom and/or their family lineage. Perhaps you need to further explore their history for better insight because one can easily argue they definitely did not shape Hmong on any positive spectrum except to line their pockets and exploit Hmong for their own personal gains and opportunities. It is ashame all the elders with intimate firsthand knowledge and accounts are all gone otherwise you would be retracting every word in posturing them. Why do you think very few Hmong except their direct descendants speaks fondly of them in any way. That in itself is self-explanatory.

[@AdymonLeer]

Other KZbinrs are usinf rhis as reference. But where the fuck was mom and dad befire u came into the new world?!

[@johnxiongnu8789]

This guy don’t know hmong history.

[@Boxerdogg02]

Yia is a scam loll

[@johnxiongnu8789]

Lee Pao Xiong doesn’t know our Mong Hmong history. This is facts.

[@aliasdoe007]

Lee Pao Xiong is not a Hmong historian or even a history professor for that matter. His basic Hmong history is on par with any layperson. He has a Masters in Business or some Social Science program. Definitely not history or Hmong history period. To my knowledge there are only two Hmong women historians who actually studied Hmong history. One is a professor in Milwaukee and the other in the Twin Cities. There may be others nowadays but they are the only two I know of when I was doing my own amateur research awhile back. And Yia knows even less to provide any constructive insight or narrative. All his Hmong food talk is utterly fantasy without shame or dignity purely for commercialism.

[@johnxiongnu8789]

Lee Pao is wrong by label Mong Hmong as Miao Maab dong Yee. Hmong Mong Dna test. Mong Hmong is not Miao suave. Mong Hmong dna related to as far as norther China Inner Mongolia.

[@MrJoshuacx]

Do you have data to back up your claim?

[@johnxiongnu8789]

@@MrJoshuacx we have data DNA proof. Yes. Those believe Mong is Miao doesn’t have any proof to support. No history data say Mong Miao maab.

[@MikeyLee559]

Yeah , I also would like to to know the difference in DNA of Hmoob Thai, Loas,Vietnam, difference from the Miao in China. First thing is the difference in language, second is the cultural aspects, and then the shaman activites. The one thing I know for sure is that Hmoob in America, Thailand, Loas, Vietnam speak the same while the Miao in China have different languages.

[@OK-cp2sp]

Mongolia Turkish KHAZARIN dna

[@johnxiongnu8789]

@@OK-cp2sp Hmong Mong dna closely related to Inner Mongolia Mongolia. Not related to Miao Nanman Maab tong Yi suave Yi Han suave Chinese.