Diving Disaster

A advanced training dive on scuba that went badly wrong!!

[@chimpdongs]

1) regulator wheezing like a dog chew toy 2) BCD’s not inflated before exiting boat 3) OP doesn’t ever surface after entering water , just sees people near the dive line and swims over 4) When descending , someone literally inverts 180 and starts finning down 5) Descent far too fast with no buddy system cooperation or communication. Everyone doing their own thing. 6) Ruptures ear drum but carries on anyway instead of stopping and ascending when first feeling discomfort 7) OP has bad vertigo despite being able to see the bottom and the descent line, doesn’t end the dive 8) Everyone finning like madmen even using their hands to try and stay neutral - horribly overweighted and or zero bcd control 9) NOBODY checks their pressure gauges or dive computers 10) Waseem dragged out of water unconscious and left to die on the deck. Forget oxygen, nobody even bothers to get him into the recovery position. This is a good training resource - did I miss anything.

[@talulahcherries592]

Thank you . Well said

[@colesscubadiving8316]

Also split fins are a little shit in my opinion. Waseem was bound to have trouble he put those janky things on 😂. Granted their inability to generate substantial power allowed the instructor to catch up to him while he was making a break for the surface so maybe they were a blessing in disguise?

[@MsLina625]

sounds like you have been quality diving for a while, nice recap of mistakes. i just got my license last month, have done one dive with no instructor and am very gratefull that my diving buddy is overly cautious. we had nearly zero visibility and were as deep as alowed (18 m) , I had trouble with buoyancy because I couldn't see the bottom untill I touched it, but we stayed together and didn't panic, checked air, turned around and at a lesser depth with more to see had an enjoyable dive then finsihed with reserve in the tank...LISTEN TO YOUR INSTRUCTORS! We were given instructions on how to avoid this whole scenario step by step. I know I am still green, but I just can't understand how they could forget the basics...future dive masters...really?

[@izzojoseph2]

Someone checked a monitor once. He looked at it, anyway. 😂

[@izzojoseph2]

Seriously, why would someone knock out a mouth piece?

[@reubenjensen]

"Nothing you can learn in a text book could prepare us...." Literally everything in the textbook would prepare you for that.

[@j0sie627]

Reuben Jensen fr

[@ricardocruz4235]

Just got my OW cert and I can confirm, literally every issue was mentioned in the textbook, in the videos, and tested multiple times on paper, in the pool, and in OW.

[@ajcook7777]

Your right, he meant to say nothing I learned or remember from the textbook helped me

[@zentime8047]

And now the are all gonna be dive masters. Great

[@ajcook7777]

@@ricardocruz4235 people like to believe they were in a life critical or life saving incident and got out of unscathed, it boosts their ego, and rightfully it should, but when people's life critical or life saving ordeal was created by their own ignorance, carelessness, or recklessness it makes them look like (pardon the harshness) but idiots, or completely unprepared. You don't get credit from fixing the problems YOU created....remember that people... If the problem was totally uncontrollable and you had no part in creating it and you solved it then yes, you deserve the credit. This video should be a reminder to people of how quickly things can escalate and if these people were more experienced, would not have got past issue 1 or 2 and snowballed into a near life changing incident...

[@MargoIndigo]

if you’re ever losing control of what’s up or down on an open water dive, look at your bubbles and follow them. they always go up, unless you’re in a very strong current.

[@JackyDacky]

But in australia they go down

[@MargoIndigo]

@@JackyDacky 😂😂😂

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Seems like some of these people go so deep they get narced and are too delusional to even realise they need to stop going down

[@MargoIndigo]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss oh definitely a possibility

[@daisycate]

@@JackyDacky 😆😆😆

[@conradbonorchis]

The amount of things wrong with this dive is astounding. Chimpdongs did a good summary of the issues. For me that reg screeching like a parrot being throttled was painful. That reg hadn't been serviced in years. Waseem is lucky to be alive. And the ignorance of the skipper and DM to just leave Waseem unattended on the deck without providing O2 and FA is unforgivable

[@auditamplifier8493]

"chimpdongs" 😂😂

[@mudbob1]

My folks always said if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. That looks like a nice boat.

[@killar222]

haha - good one :)

[@frankskinner9806]

God bless

[@TheDukeOfSaudi]

Hahaha

[@sabrosa1mami]

lmao

[@henkenilssons3196]

😀😀 nice weather ...

[@mikekepshire1260]

God forbid i ever hear "this is your divemaster, Waseem!" I'll be sitting that dive out

[@johnnyjerseyshardest]

Hahahahahah

[@kaim1810]

😂

[@circle4922]

Lol.

[@JTMarlin8]

Good thing he's dead.

[@johnhodzic9578]

If he did that to me i would do the same to him and hold hes arms for few seconds so he really panics and then he will realise how fun it is next time he think of doing it to other peoples diciplin for those people

[@non_brewed_condiment]

I've never been diving in my life but is it fair to assume that the constant wheezing isn't a good thing?

[@zoewashburn4678]

bing bong it’s not necessarily dangerous per say, but the regulator should definitely be serviced

[@sektasheirk6412]

Kader is that you? haha

[@lifeofabarista1580]

I'd be freaking out too 😂

[@brianaxb9429]

@@non_brewed_condiment I'm watching a random diving video at 2 am only to find kader in the comments? no way it's really you! lmao

[@KatGlos]

@@brianaxb9429 Who is Kader?

[@qraee]

4:50 all of the viewers

[@catrmr8]

LOL!!!!

[@ahassan7]

EXACTLY

[@chocotaco1225]

Lmao i had to look twice.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@TheWarrenhulk]

Even if those were 3 pounders, do you think he had enough of them? Geez! He was carrying enough weight for everyone...

[@Blumiberta]

@@TheWarrenhulk They are 1 pound each. He's probably wearing 7mm suit, maybe even a long john or second suit underneath, because it's quite cold in Cape Town area. Ok, he's not a big guy, so might be overweight, but not like an anchor.

[@stevec6642]

"advanced training dive " ??? 1 Burst eardrum, 1 panicked diver, 1 guy knocks the reg out of another guys mouth....more like the three stooges try scuba

[@horaciomlhh]

lol! true

[@stevec6642]

+Horacio Hidalgo all they needed was the circus music and they would have a pretty funny video

[@horaciomlhh]

+steve nunya totally!

[@horaciomlhh]

+steve nunya totally!

[@MrAbdulazizJ]

hahahaha true

[@waynemia07tx]

As an instructor (Master SCUBA Diver Trainer), that dive was a total disaster. Everything that happened was preventable. These divers were not properly prepared for this deep dive, they did not observe proper buddy contact, they did not descend appropriately, they did not maintain contact with the descent line, they appeared to be grossly over weighted - even in full wet suits and sea water, and, personally, I would not have my students so dispersed and out of my view on a training dive. The response to the emergency on the video appeared inadequate. If I have a questionable diver, I have firm contact with that diver to ensure I can control the ascent. We frequently encourage new divers to continue with their Advanced course immediately after Open Water. There is a lot of emphasis on self-led training. Many people need help with the academic part of the training. The "books" identify the possible problems and corrective actions. Understanding these and adequate training can minimize the potential risks. The buddy rule, for example, would have minimized the effect of the burst ear drum. The buddy should have been with him. He should have aborted the dive with his buddy. With three divers, I would have assigned them as a team of three so they all stay together. They should all been aware of each other and prepared to help their team members if a problem occurs. This dive would have been over for everyone at that time. Proper descent and ear clearing would have prevented the ear problem. Head down descents make it harder to equalize. When wearing hoods, it is necessary to pull the hood away from the head to help equalize. The hood can seal around the outer ear creating another airspace. I don't know if they were properly trained on using a full wetsuit. I don't know if they did a weight check to verify the amount of weight they wearing was appropriate but it looked like they were too heavy. I did not see a check on this dive. Videos like these scare potential divers. It does NOT have to be this way.

[@TheFlashadams]

Very well said. I am just a scuba noob but what terrifies me is that group are all on their path to DM.

[@MyNameIsBertram]

Thank you for writing this.

[@elliotroyce280]

I think this is spot on. From the very beginning, the instructor failed to exercise any real guidance or control. And his reaction when the problem occurred was grossly negligent. I found it difficult to discern any difference in behavior between the instructor and the students.

[@jaykoreman1405]

looks like someone certified to 60ft took his buddy's diving!

[@PatriciaGarcia-ip6ge]

Wayne Morris I'm scared of the open ocean and have zero diving training. But as I watched video I thought the same why if he didn't know up from down did he not abort dive and everyone was spread out to far. And that panicked diver should have got out of water he is a liability to all of them. And the mouthpiece hit out if the divers mouth what that about if you could let me know. Was he mad?

[@gamernick1533]

On my fourth ever OW dive I had a whole train wreck of a dive. I had a buddy with me that was really struggling with buoyancy control whilst we swam along a wall and had a 35+m hole beneath us. I needed to reseat my mask as it was constantly filling, I partially took it off and took a face full of sand as my buddy kicked off the wall. The sand got into my mask and at the same time my weight belt dropped to my knees. I was stuck, trying to sort my weight belt out with my eyes closed but I had also started to sink, I could only tell this because it was getting darker... over that 35m hole. My instructor attempted to push me into the wall so I would stop slipping but I felt it as her trying to remove my weight belt and it had gotten a lot darker (probably because I was up against the wall). I took this as time for a CESA (emergency ascent). I kicked for the surface, eyes closed, one hand on my weight belt at my knees and one on my LPI deflate button and then, I had a free flow (probably triggered by the heavy breathing from starting to panic) AND my left fin popped off. I'm now at 18m ish, freeflowing, blind, no spare hands and only one fin to kick with. Thankfully, 18m ish isn't too far but in 10C water (wetsuit + oversuit), no air and one fin, whilst screaming (for CESA, not from panicking, although I definitely was) it felt like forever to get up to the surface. I was absolutely freaked and needed to get on dry land. Thankfully my instructor was just amazing. He waited at distance to get me to calm, towed me back to land, allowed me to regain control and did the right thing, told me to get back in the water. If I didn't get back in, right there, I don't think I could have brought myself to carry on diving and I'm super glad he had the patience and absolute chill to get me back in and the decency/courtesy to allow me to finish the OW dive as a duo to be signed off on that section. I spent hours running through what happened and determined it was the best thing for me. It was one hell of learning experience and, before I'd get back in the water, things had to change. I researched and picked out better fins, I bought a backplate and wing BCD with integrated pockets to remove the need for a belt, I cancelled my plan to buy a set of regs and save a bit more for something beefier (MTX-Rs in the end) and less likely to free flow and, have run drills in my mind and in training pools to calm and drill reacting better to mishaps.

[@bipo819]

It’s like An introduction in a theme song Nikki “the one who keeps everyone calm” Doug “ The one who bursts his eardrum”

[@jfisher80020]

I feel like Nikki didn’t really do her job on this dive.

[@Bluecheese1400]

Waseem useless ass didn’t do shit

[@chocotaco1225]

You forgot Waseem 'the one who nearly died' 🤣

[@sahirdamani1264]

When he was panicking nikki just went 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ze2004]

@@jfisher80020 yeah you saw that?

[@larryd9068]

Looks like scuba certification from Dunkin Donuts 🤪

[@antonygonzalez1672]

Lloyd Dehn 😂

[@flipnotrab]

How dare you insult Dunkin Donuts THIS much...

[@larryd9068]

@@flipnotrab Thats funny!😁

[@lulubelljingles9701]

7 11

[@adangochez8400]

🤣🤣🤣

[@daringdarius]

Why did you continue your decent when you failed to equalize your ear pressure? Even after your ear drum burst you continued to descend.... why?? I'm baffled!

[@jetlee3379]

errrr... the answer is obvious.... hahahaha

[@ricardomontalban6004]

Coz he’s an idiot. I don’t even dive.

[@jt_on_youtube]

Because they had no idea what to do honestly :(

[@red2977]

because they had crap instructors and should have never been in the water doing a deep dive until they were squared away.

[@Anna-tc6rz]

@Charles exactly. If I remember correctly burst eardrums are fucking painful. He could've been in do much pain his brain decided to stop working

[@ScubaMoto]

I've been paired with other Divemasters and watched them panic. I've seen instructors break for the surface and end up in a chamber. Evidently, all the experience in the world can't predict one's behavior when panic takes over.

[@richardotto6643]

Best way to deal with panic is to prevent it.

[@ryand4533]

You don’t need much experience to get certified in this very dangerous field. Ironic as shit.

[@denissssss8579]

I never panic

[@methdxman]

@Terri Caton Art Yuri was not that experienced.

[@intothemystic5223]

@@denissssss8579 Here's a cookie 🍪

[@FluxCondenser]

“Nothing in a textbook could have prepared us for this...” All of that could have been prevented by following the guidelines in the basic open water textbook. Dealing with panicked divers is well addressed in the rescue diver course textbooks.

[@craigfoster5470]

I have never commented on a KZbin video here but I just have to jump in. If you are watching this as a new diver or thinking of learning to dive or just wondering about diving, this is NOT anything like normal diving. These divers apparently learned very little in their dive training and were not close to ready for this fairly simple dive. The diver with vertigo should have aborted the dive immediately, ascending with his buddy (tho it was hard to tell if he even had a buddy) following the upline and bubbles for orientation and safety. No problem there. Not sure why the diver panicked but I'm betting it was a buoyancy issue caused by too much weight. Again, good buoyancy control and proper weighting (all open water lessons) and this is a non-issue. I'm totally confused on how the videographer had his regulator knocked out of his mouth except all the divers seemed to have little to no buoyancy control and spent the dive flailing with hands and feet to compensate and move. Proper buoyancy control and efficient movement are both basic OWD requirements. Finally, I'm not clear why a simple arm sweep wasn't used to recover the knocked out 2nd stage. This is a 1st pool dive skill that is repeated and tested over and over - and super simple and really hard to screw up. Seriously, please do not think this is scuba diving. These folks should never have been let out of the pool and/or given open water certification cards. None of these things should ever happen to divers who have passed the open water course instruction and/or whose divemaster/instructor/dive boat operator was doing their job. Maybe this could be a first post-certification dive with a new dive operator but if the instructor took these folks down this way, knowing their skills, his certification should be suspended.

[@darrenlinderman5079]

+CH Foster everything you said is thumbs up! its a shame that videos like this get nearly 1/2 million likes when videos portraying the joy in diving don't come close.

[@Victimize010]

+CH Foster This was defenitely a Buoyancy problem.. if he was balanced enough, he would have been able to float with his breathing, not by acting like a flappy bird all the time.. The instructor should have seen that!

[@JohnSmith-qg4rt]

+Darren Linderman Couldn't agree more my man.

[@Digger121954]

+CH Foster -- I agree that this dive was a real cluster fark! Burst and ear drum and keep on diving with vertigo! And all that skulling and flapping around! I hope the certifying agency for the open water instructors involved reviewed this.

[@sdcofer52]

+CH Foster Right, these guys are dangerous. Hard to believe the instructors let them out of the pool.

[@braders696]

"nothing you learn in a textbook could prepare you for what happened that day"?!Everything you learn from your textbook's could prevent let alone prepare you for what happened that day :/

[@MicheleMigliorini]

Indeed. They did everything wrong!

[@chrish6412]

That and paying attention to the confined water training. We don't teach the class because we like powerpoint presentations. That "textbook bcrap" is the knowledge that becomes the foundation to act appropriately (as Bradley stated). To put in non-diving terms, watch Apollo 13 -- the reactions of the astronauts (as portrayed in the movie) was based on the info they learned in the classroom.

[@jamespuliin2847]

Bradley, that's exactly what I thought. Whilst it's true that a textbook cannot *really* teach you how to deal with panic (which is an issue in many diving incidents), a textbook can teach you how to follow good principles, many of which do not seem to be adhered to in this dive/video.

[@andyhuggett7790]

You are joking right?....i REALLY hope your joking

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

OMG! I sincerely hope not -- but if he is, we hope he learned some valuable lessons of what NOT to do so that he can pass on what he obviously did not learn or know on the above video. Dive training with a proper instructor for as many dives as it takes BEFORE attempting what they did above is imperative. Pool training is necessary, I remember my dive instructor had us do MANY things that were not in the books (IN THE POOL) BEFORE we even attempted a open water dive and even then, we were one-one-one with an instructor in the open water. The above video showed an absolute disaster IMO!!

[@RegularDude]

The comments on this are great, considering I know nothing about diving, I'm going to take that the 10/10 people telling you guys that you made laughable rookie mistakes are right. Lmaooo

[@dhruvnarain3948]

"Nothing you can learn from a textbook could prepare us for this" is the most shit sentence i could have seen. Yes it cant prepare you for the panic but it has everything you need to do. Unconcious diver? THE OPEN WATER TEXTBOOK HAS THAT, the texbook says take long deep breaths, which op wasnt doing, the textbook says to equalize very often. which the dive instructor didnt do. It also say if you feel discomfort or panic end the dive. If you feel discomfort or pain in ears stay where you are or go a little up and equalize. Thats how you dont pop a eardrum. Also something the dive instructor didnt do. The texbook has everything they need to know. They just ignored it

[@glenn2745]

Drhuv makes a great point about equalizing. But there is an even more basic problem. When you get in the water, you don't descend immediately. You are to inflate your BC and stay on the surface and wait until your buddy or entire dive crew are in the water, floating just like you are. And THEN only begin the descent once everyone is sorted out in the water. You do your final safety check of your regulator etc while in the water floating safely, not in the boat, lol. And then when you descend you do so by deflating your BC (buoyancy compensator) - the inflatable vest they are wearing that you don't see them inflate or use at all - and do a gradual descent, equalizing ear pressure as Dhruv lays out below. The way you manage buoyancy when diving is by having enough weight to sink you without your BC being inflated but not enough that your BC can't make you float to the surface. Controlling buoyancy is a key skill one learns when taking the PADI "Open Water Diver" training and certification. That you don't see any of this in an advanced certification dive is incredible. It's astonishing. You might see a little more free styling in a crew of seriously experienced divers who dive together a lot in an area they feel very comfortable diving in. There is a time for relaxing the safety paranoia a bit but in a cert dive? And in bad vis? Fyi, I never relax the safety angle, I don't care who I 'm diving with. There is also a procedure for non-buddy diving that some folks do, a 'self-reliant" model but again, that's for a very experienced diver. The other screw up of epic proportions is related to the buddy thing. When buddy diving, you maintain regular visual contact with each other doing safety confirmations. You give a thumbs up when things are okay. When something is wrong, you extend your hand palm down and wobble it side to side. Your buddy should then come face to face with you. You should then signal to surface by a fist with a thumb pointing up, maybe you'd point to your ear to signal an ear problem but it's not necessary. Once either buddy signals an ascent is required that's really all one needs to konw. You and your buddy should immediately go to the descent/ascent line and begin a controlled ascent to the surface. If either buddy seems to be having difficulty, the functioning buddy would grab one strap of the other buddies BC and control their ascent and direction for them. A SLOW ascent. Okay, I'll stop now. The only person who didn't seem to be a total idiot was Niki but I'm not even clear who the diver's buddy was to begin with. This is just a total shit show.

[@N4jss]

@@glenn2745 i just read your comment and i 99% agree. i just disagree that thats bad vis (maybe i understood that wrong) and you said that for safety check you give thumbs up :D

[@glenn2745]

@@N4jss Of course you are correct. Okay sign - not thumbs up!

[@Frank-ih9ew]

Panic attacks are no joke... glad everyone survived that trip

[@o.antonio]

This was an ugly dive. And the conditions were amazing! I can't imagined what would happen if they tried European waters. The worst part is "soon to be dive masters"

[@999racing]

The problem in recreational diving is that no one ever fails any course

[@ze2004]

@@999racing my uncle did fail

[@jonathanbradley4896]

"Divemaster" is a joke of a term really, you can get it with as few as 60 dives which is absolutely crazy.

[@katiem3626]

I’ve had better dives in a quarry with 2 foot visibility. Who let these goons get certified?

[@jasontownsend9460]

Yeah I don’t understand why they struggled so much. No swell, no current, good vis. What the fuck

[@matthewhobson4609]

As someone in training. (Have only done 4 pool dives) I am amazed that they let these people out of the pool. My instructor would have aborted the dive if any of us even tried to go down headfirst or without a slow controlled decent and verifying every 3 feet that we were comfortable and hand signalling to us that we were using the Valsalva maneuver. Doesn't discourage me because I'm determined to make gradual and comfortable steps to become an experienced diver. I love learning to dive. I hope this doesn't discourage anyone.

[@HRM.H]

Yeahh ive only dived (?) Once and had great non verbal communication with my instructor. I didnt feel unsafe at all and was a great experience. But videos like these really make me re consider ever diving again.

[@diverdan557]

@@HRM.H Im in my rescue diver course right now to complete my master diver cert. dont let something like this scare you away from diving, instead use it as a learning tool to not be that diver. Do research and find a quality shop with quality instructors and it will serve you well. even at this level we still practice and train our basic skills to the point they become muscle memory. the most important skill to practice until you are super comfortable is BUOYANCY, This will do so much for your diving. it will teach you to use less weight, you will use less air, less energy, have more control and over all enjoy the dive more. A vast majority of diver related drownings happen because the diver is over weight and fails to maintain proper buoyancy, (especially on the surface) . Training should drill into you the importance of keeping your skills sharp, your equipment maintained and to dive within your limits.

[@shantelhb9054]

This has actually reassured me that there are actual good instructors who would help this never happen.

[@Fred5612]

Hundreds of dives, never met idiots like these.

[@stevesandford1437]

"I'm determined to make gradual and comfortable steps to become an experienced diver. I love learning to dive..." What a great response. You are exactly the kind of trainee/student that diving instructors pray for! While good and measured training is paramount, the attitude and attention of the trainee to such instruction is all-important. You'll make a fine and safe diver, Friend. Enjoy. xx SF

[@wintxryoon]

4:51 "Why on earth did I even agree to come with u guy's?"

[@gotahgemini6415]

rofl that was really funny - she's the best part

[@jankoweise2428]

Thank you for sharing this. I had a similar experience doing my NAUI Rescue Divers course. We did the deep dive ice cold and dark, but clear, sweet water, at 32m in flooded quarry. I was teamed up with a young fellow who became increasingly unresponsive as soon as we settled on the quarries floor for some simple exercises. Then he spit out his regulator, repeating this after I stuck it in again. I was also slowed down considerably in my reactions. The diving instructor, a german ex-Marine educator, quickly reacted to my signalling and the situation, leaving us to a controlled and normal surfacing procedure while ascending in an accelerated manner with the unconscious guy. Later, the told that during the ascend, the regulator iced after using the purge button for each attempt to reinsert it, making buancy control a pain due to the guys tank blowing empty rapidly. On top of that, the guy awoke and struggled violently. Security stop was rather short due to these circumstances. The guy went directly into a pressurized emergency tube, while the instructor submerged again. I went as deep as 45 meters in clear warm water without experiencing any of this. Might have had to do with the cold, or maybe the adrenalin due to the dark - I dont know exacltly. But respect depth.

[@charyog7]

Very scary ! Cold and dark are factors that increases narcosis, it might have been because of that

[@Pat2296]

"Advanced"? omg. How did they survive the beginner's classes?

[@kartracer127]

Pretty sure they didnt.

[@alima34]

😹

[@murfdog19]

Have you ever been diving?

[@GoatyHerps]

"$50 and I'll print you a certificate." That's how.

[@GoatyHerps]

@Pagani Zonda - I agree. That's my point.

[@shahidullah5983]

If only there was a big great white shark watching all of this laughing and then at the end it made an appearance

[@TanyaLazenby]

Hahahaha

[@flipnotrab]

No, sharks were smart enough to NOT want to consume pure stupidity.

[@2011blueman]

If it did, I would hope the great white takes out the dive master for running this farce of a school. Not a single person on that dive should have been doing an advanced course.

[@lykankcallahan9609]

Haha Thats what I was waI5ting for

[@narcis3720]

Someone bursting their eardrums happened once in my diving school's 10 year existence..

[@Nikl434]

How is the ears?

[@narcis3720]

@Pagani Zonda the high pressure of the water does that easily if you don't properly equalize your ears.

[@peterjulianphotos4659]

I got my C-Card close to 40 years ago. Every Wednesday night we would spend three hours at the Dive Instructor's house for quite a few weeks learning how NOT to scuba dive, we ended up calling it 999 ways to die underwater.....But it stuck with me. I still dive using my original C-Card, I still plan my dive base of a table profile (but let the computer assist me), but the first Wednesday night way back then was titled "Failing to Plan - Planning to Fail" and that still resonates with me today. These guys don't even deserve to be OW qualified let alone DM's.

[@riparianlife97701]

Diving is just like any other activity. When it becomes extremely uncomfortable, people want to simply stop. Stopping the activity of being underwater means a hasty, dangerous trip to the surface in every possible wrong way. I was 60' down, and was attacked by a large Remora who wanted me to be his shark. I pretty much lost my shit, and wanted to return to the surface immediately. It was my calm, professional dive guide who kept me down, and helped me regain my composure. I actually enjoyed the rest of the dive instead of dying.

[@riparianlife97701]

***** It felt like high-quality duct tape being ripped off my hairy chest, and that was when it attached. They don't hold on with their mouths. I's a boot-tread-like patch on the top of their heads.

[@drrnfl]

You should have offered to be his shark for just a little bit to be polite

[@riparianlife97701]

***** It's damn hard to say a safe word underwater. Threatening to move to Idaho sounds like a better ploy to keep women from moving in.

[@dannygjk]

Docktor Jim One of those getSCUBAcertifiedin3days things?

[@riparianlife97701]

Dan Kelly Oh hell no. I dive for work. I have extensive training, and hundreds of dives, but that didn't prepare me for a fish trying to become my Siamese twin.

[@ferocious_r]

Wow. That vid is making me realize why ppl are so, so careful about checking out potential new buddies for signs of stupid behaviour.

[@jennylee5003]

I skydive and interrogate people I jump with.. this is why. People are arrogant and cocky and do unsafe shit that puts the entire group at risk... its the same with scuba

[@siamosht]

So professional, look at the help and support given to the panic diver. You guys are amazing, just drop him on the bottom of the boat and he will be fine.

[@sophielorber4571]

You gotta love the Woman, Niki, at 04:51 She didn't know what these fools were doing either.

[@meancupofchili1916]

"Soon we'll be Dive Masters''. What are you talking about? you just did an ''Advanced Dive'', and in 5 minutes you blew an eardrum, had your friend panic, then you knocked the one thing he needed to survive out of his mouth.

[@sandraclark7771]

meancup ofchili Padi divers all want to be Dive Masters. They're a joke

[@tammywhite6639]

meancup ofchili How did he pop an ear drum, is that normal?? Why did the guy panic?? They didn't give the guy oxygen, well wasnt that oxygen in the tank? Or does he mean after he came up to the boat?? Whats vertigo? Sorry for all the questions but i want to know more about it!! Didnt really understand what was going on exactly!!!! Someone please answer me!! Lol.......

[@Catinnor]

Tammy White he burst his eardrum by not equalizing properly which is odd as equalizing is one of the easiest and most basic things you learn, the tank contains air which of course does Include oxygen (could also have been nitrox which has even more oxygen) but they meant when he got out onto the boat as it's administered in a variety of emergency situations though I don't think it was needed in this case anyway

[@Catinnor]

Tammy White and vertigo is essentially being dissorientated and is often associated more commonly with heights

[@Catinnor]

Sandra Clark I beg to differ, me and my dad both got qualified with padi and neither of us care about whether we have some fancy title we just want to enjoy It and so has everyone else I've dived with- and almost all of them were padi too

[@dharmaboy75]

My last dive of my trip, I was running out of air and my Dive Master who was leading the dive didn't seem to care. Through out the whole dive he never asked any of the 4 of us diving what our remaining air was. I decided to make the decision myself, do my own stop time and told my buddy I am going to start my accent. I am lucky i did as I was under 200psi and I knew I was going to be in trouble at the surface with strong waves. I ended up doing my own decompression stop and then barely had enough air to inflate my BCD. This was a good call on my part and my wife who is a very experienced diver said I did the right steps to safeguard myself. In the end, you have to do what is right for you, that's the motto of my Dive Master who certified me.

[@carlmills400]

Spot on,you should never do a dive you can’t finish by yourself. You’re buddy or other divers should be a last resort. I would recommend you get yourself trained on twins (redundancy). And perhaps. Go for self reliant.

[@richardotto6643]

well the divemaster isn't responsible for your air supply or usage. Unless you've informed him before the dive, that you are a beginner and need help, he should be able to assume you can monitor that yourself. You are the diver, you have been trained, you should know your limitations. Unless I'm diving with beginners, I will not likely be asking them how much air they have left. After your certification, you are responsible. "I dicided to make the decision myself", that's what diving is about.

[@MikeHalsall]

Yeah, just to add to this while on a bit of a diving trip currently with a few different shops/dive masters: I thought it was expected of you to tell the DM when you need to head up. If we’re at a mooring, at around 1k psi I’ll let the DM know where I’m at and want to be somewhere near the line… then can putz around there for a bit. At that point I’ll head up for my three minutes around 400-500. I feel like I’ve been lucky to have never dove with people who weren’t anywhere between solid and incredible, and there’s always been an air of self-reliance but still everyone’s keeping a watchful eye. I only have about 85 dives so I feel like I’m just starting to get a sense of the balance between what I can expect from DMs and the self-reliance piece, but I sure appreciate DMs who don’t treat everyone like toddlers.

[@glenn2745]

@@richardotto6643 This is some total horseshit. The divemaster should be establishing visual contact with all the divers he/she is leading on a regular basis. The divers should remain buddied up and be giving the okay signal in response to the visual check in, and the divemaster should be looking for a response when checking in with each set of buddies. Otherwise you are on a solo dive with lead diver - not a divemaster. There is a huge difference. The divemaster is responsible for the safety of the divers being led, not just for running the tour. That you don't understand this. well it's hugely problematic for you and anyone wh dives with you That you'd run your yap here is even worse - spreading misleading info. Sure, in your precise wording, you are correct - the divemaster should not be checking the air gauge or dive comps of certified divers. But when "leading" a dive, he/she is responsible for getting the divers back to the effing boat safely. And if for some reason one of the divers has gone low on air (can easily be an equipment problem) he/she should make sure they get to the surface safely and know how to get back to the boat. That you are like "you are on your own, the only job of the dive master to be leading the way through the dive' is astonishing. You should never be a dive master on any dive again. Where do you work? What dives do you lead? I want to report this to whoever it is you work for and see what they think of your attitude about your responsibility for diver safety as a dive master. You seem so sure you are correct - let's put it to the test with the people who certify you and/or that you work for and see what they say. Jesus, there are so many macho a-holes in the diving world. One has to be super careful who they dive with. Fyi, the only life endangering mishap I had under water was due to an overreaction by a dive master, lol. It was only the fact that my dive buddy and I stayed calm and followed all safety procedures that we got the surface safely on a 110 ft depth dive.

[@michaelbee2165]

@@richardotto6643 I've always monitored my air, depth, dive profile and decompression time. I've always let my buddy know if I needed to ascend. But as the Master Diver YOU are the "boss" of the dive. I took my training seriously. How can you, however, know that an Open Water diver is really serious about those things? You can't. You will lose a diver one day because you fail to understand redundancy. This from an Advanced Diver to a Master Diver. Sure hope I never dive with you.

[@BltchErica]

"Soon to be Dive Masters" wow, it's sad that a lot of people would assume a person with this title has actual experience and end up badly hurt or dead going diving with them

[@Shellieb013]

Thank you for this. I feel a little less bad about panicking a little when we did our first attempted scuba dive into the ocean in my gap year - it was out first dive into the ocean itself instead of a practice pool, and upon starting our group decent, I could not pop my ears at all. I had to unhook my arms from my diving partner to prevent him from pulling me down further, alerted one of the few instructors with us, and she helped me ascend and get back to shore. I started to panic when I couldn't equalise and the group continued descending without us, but the instructor kept me calm and even towed me back to shore when I started hyperventilating. I love the ocean and I love swimming in water, so I could not understand why I panicked over such a simple test dive. I have always had anxiety, so it must have been triggered by things not going according to plan. The rest of the group managed their controlled test dive just fine, but I was unable to continue with scuba diving because I just could not get my ears to equalize even at a 2m depth. I might try again someday for shallow dives in clearer water, but at least now I know anyone can become panicked even if they have actual open water experience.

[@charyog7]

I don't know if it's due to the same thing, but if you use Q-Tips, stop using them and let the natural lubrication works, you should be able to pop your ears easily after one or two weeks. After it might just have been a cold or some running noses ?

[@Shellieb013]

@@charyog7 thank you very much - that might actually be a problem for me. It was also quite cold (which hurts my ears in the water anyway), but I also use earbuds to clean the wax out my ears because I hate how the wax feels in my ears. When I have the opportunity to dive again I will try leave my natural lubrication for a while. Thank you so much! I didn't realise this would be a consideration.

[@goodlifewithweed]

if you dont know if it is up or down. fallow your air bubbles.

[@rabahhammadi1369]

Read your comment again when you'll get the alernobaric vertigo for the first time !

[@janvandermerwe4649]

You know, there is this problem with a rebreather.......

[@khalification87]

Jesus, whatever "school" you were in should have their creds revoked. Looked like 3 COMPLETE beginners.

[@garlicflowerzzz]

Alex Khalkhali i’m a beginner and i dive better than these fools

[@patrickp4384]

I've been diving my whole life I'm certified OWSI with several advanced certifications including rescue diving. This is a textbook example of how panic can turn bad real quick, and the person in panic will grab and try to get your regulator. I've been in this same situation with my own regulator failing. You have to control the panic and do as taught . There's a reason you have training perhaps this young man didn't have the training he needed and was pushed through the class to make money ? It happens I hope not ..

[@George-ej6lt]

The same thing happened to me back in the 80s. I was diving. I was around 66 feet deep. When I sneezed into my regulator and blew my ear drum out. I almost drowned it was the worst thing I've ever lived through. Now I can only go no deeper than 6 feet. And that's just in a pool, my ear is screwed.

[@NotTheeAlice]

Ugliest dive I've ever seen. Looks like you guys were fresh out of the pool on your first open water.

[@colecorrigan6376]

lol

[@nthlevel]

I was thinking the same thing they should never have gone that far down without checking he was ok. Hes very lucky that he was with experienced divers and kept his regulator in

[@maxm7202]

Sounds like they just ran a marathon...

[@redskuller2375]

Alice sounds like he's sucking soap through a kazooh

[@connor55653]

Matt Out haha

[@crankycanuk]

Wow. Can't believe no one died during that fiasco. Whoever the instructor was, he should be removed from teaching status. I've been diving for 20 years and seen a lot, but that vid left me speechless. No checks on the way down to make sure everything was green to go, terrible buddy communications at depth, everybody vertical in the water, flapping their arms about like a pack of albatrosses knocking regs out of each other mouths..........seriously, I'm surprised there wasn't a body recovery later. For the record, if you're experiencing severe vertigo, you are having an inner ear problem as you are not equalizing effectively. Ascend. It's that simple. Not sure why the other dude was in panic mode, assuming he was simply overwhelmed for whatever reason. Here's the Golden Rule pal. When it's all going to shit for whatever reason, stop. Stop everything. Breathe regularly, and think. Adjust your buoyancy, make contact with your buddy, and think of the solution to your problem. Every problem has a solution underwater, and may be as simple as doing a controlled ascent and scrapping the dive. And seek out competent instructors!!

[@linaabubakr]

noted

[@taraloker6045]

Do you believe that they didn't ascend to avoid scrapping the dive? They had to be looking forward to this day.

[@ryand141]

It's all very well saying seek out competent instructors, but how do you know what competent is if you've never dived before? It seems to me this industry is badly regulated and people/divers do not report companies who are basically doing things illegally (to make money). This lowers safety standards and it's just a question of time before somebody ends up dead. So, what could be done differently? Putting safety and training first imo, but again how is the beginner diver supposed to separate out the good dive companies from the bad? It's crazy. Seems like this should all be heavily regulated.

[@_Revuelto]

@@ryand141 By not going with a small operation with the lowest price, you will avoid a lot of bad actors. Looking at reputation and experience of the school will also be a good marker. There are a lot of fixed costs involved in diving. Magically being able to undercut this will lead to quick bankruptcy or frequent (constant) safety violations, most probably both...

[@michaelbee2165]

@@taraloker6045 Irrelevant. Your life is more important.

[@stellaburgoyne9473]

Thankyou for this video. I did my deep dive advanced in 2020 aged 69 yrs…. It went well but I do know I have never done so much self talk in my whole life as I do when at depth…. I am now 71 and hope I can continue to dive for a few more years yet, how many I don’t know , but it was a dream I had for many many years to dive and it finally happened when I was 65 yrs of age. Seeing what can go wrong is not scary, it is a reminder to me always to be a little scared every dive…. It makes me concentrate more…… xx

[@alexanderblackie6704]

I’m sorry this is not a “regular dive” this dive was so scuffed it’s not even funny. Reg seems faulty, divers are woefully unprepared, procedure isn’t followed and that’s just the beginning of it. It’s blatantly obvious that this dive should not have taken place, both due to the poor practice from both divers and instructors.

[@Securitydude83]

When she made the "I don't know..." gesture I laughed outloud.

[@megamichael4021]

You know they could've died

[@joebevf]

--\__O__/--

[@subman719]

WOW... no doubt... WAY too fast of a decent! Never had a chance to equalize properly going down that fast! This definitely is a great tutorial of what NOT to do on a dive! EVERYTHING was just WRONG! Everyone should have descended SLOWLY and TOGETHER as a group, having time to equalize and monitor each other for early problems. You can't tell who was who's dive buddy! Also, shame on the instructor for not having or administering oxygen.

[@EbiAtawodi]

Exactly my thoughts! Took so long for anyone to identify he had a problem. The reg sounded painful! Could barely see the DM, a panicked diver and one with vertigo! FUN!

[@bomberman7269]

Agree that as students they went way too fast (I've gone down the line like a brick but it was with a team that had the experience). The biggest offense is that everyone was weighted WAY too heavy. Everyone in the water (instructor included) is vertical and having to kick to keep from sinking, having proper buoyancy and trim (horizontal) is a critical skill for any diver, especially those who wish to go beyond the "PADI limits". Don't let this scare you from diving, just make sure you have your fundamentals down before going "Advanced". Hopefully these folks have come a long way if they're about to be Divemasters. -Divemaster, CCR Cave Diver

[@emmahyatt2082]

I"m surprised it says it's their "advanced" dive. Like is this their first deep dive, or their first advanced class deep dive. Because yeah, those are basics. This is why I guessed pissed at "learn how to scuba in 4 hours, or one hour!".

[@jimkinner]

I didn't see much of anything good there. Awful decent, heads down, not on the line, no checking with each other, no adding air to the BC during decent, 2,& maybe 3 divers hyperventilating( Doug and Waseem,for sure). I always thought shops and charters push advanced agendas too quickly, and I believe it"s about the money.

[@emmahyatt2082]

that's good you can equalize quickly. I guess going down more than 1 ft/s isn't as bad as going up faster than that. I just don't risk it, some say I'm too meticulous.

[@TheHannes]

I agree a lot of things were likely done wrong here, vertigo and narcosis possibly played a role as well. I have dived False bay in Cape town and have never struggled with vertigo or narcs but had my first ever vertigo on a dive out there. Visibility isn't glassy like a tropical vacation. I think if that is all you have ever dived in, this will be an eerie experience the first time. At about 15m it feels like you are in a bubble, you have to look at your bubbles to guage up and down, suddenly the wreck appears, vertigo disappears and you realise you are now dropping like a rock. If you stay calm all will be okay, panick and you have this. Growing up average vis was 5m, so 10m plus feels like paradise. I think a proper history of where people were trained and typically dive should be done before doing a course down South in South Africa, else go up the East coast for clear water.

[@FelineEmpath]

As the late, great David Bowie sang, “This is ourselves, under pressure… den de den de de den den. “ I’m glad everyone’s okay. Niki was a rockstar. Such composure.

[@travisjaso6556]

Kind of amazing how OP comes across as very condescending towards Waseem in the captions when OP is the reason this entire thing happened in the first place. You say none of this can be learned in a text book, but I'm pretty sure it says very clearly in the text book to descend at a slow, controlled rate and to equalize early and often. OP did neither and blew out his ear drum

[@matthewp1682]

OP?

[@teddyruxpin3811]

@@matthewp1682 OP = original poster

[@tonyvelasquez6776]

@@matthewp1682 come on man. I sniff my stink hole 3x a day minimum. my stink puffs are nothing but joy. I LOVE my sweet stink nuggets and I inhale my stink like its going out of style. You should know things like this, MATTHEW

[@alexhuerta6164]

Right. He's the reason Waseem freaked out and didn't get oxygen in his tank. Because his ear drum burst. Its his fault. Don't become a police officer or hold ANY amount of power please for the love of christ.

[@alexhuerta6164]

Lets hope in these 2 years since you posted this you got a brain

[@jeandubern5147]

"What can happen on a normal day, normal dive"? You're kidding, right?! Everyone on the video is panicking and the instructor has both hands full! Not talking about the appalling surface assistance on the water exit. A normal dive for me is not "who's first at the bottom", and involves a controlled descent ... and ascent. You are dangerous man!

[@kvnblnd1]

I totaly agree, this has to be one of the most worste decents i have witness. well over wighted, and sinking like a battle ship. this causes all the panic, and not enough experience around to control the situation. We know how eger people can be to take the next step in diving, but patinece is needed for experience.

[@Jakedegaye]

“Ok Guys now remember what I said,the treasure on the wreck is long gone,so it’s not a race to the bottom. Doug I know Nikki is pretty,but no 180 * navy seal dives today,let’s buddy up and descend slowly,equalising as we go,you with the solid gold weight belt,lose half pal.. Go pro lad ,inflate your Bs a little.. Ok safety first,nice and easy,let’s have a great dive.. 1 2 3 ...”

[@felcas]

I want to share: my last dive a long time ago, I got vertigo too, I was almost certain I was going to pass out, my double (don't know how say dive partner in english) was a bit ahead, I tried to catch his attention but he was too distracted, I was about to panic, I knew I was going to pass out and would probably die, I tried to swim up, something was wrong, I was not going up. In a last attempt to I inflated my jacket just a bit, I knew this was not correct procedure but I had to do something, need just a bit of air in the jacket to help bring me up to surface, even if I had some kind of decompression consequences, as I got near surface my vision got a tunnel black, when I surfaced I was still having tunneled vision. I fully inflated my jacket and recovered from my incident, hopefully got no decompression problem. I never dived again, lost my interest, forgot about it until I saw this video. I am glad that God helped me, I was on the verge of loosing it but I got clear instruction in my mind to get me out of the situation. 🙏🏻

[@carolannburke5450]

Yes sir; I understand. Sounds like a miracle. I knew after failing the pool it was not for me. Great swimmer; we swam across the Hudson River on a choppy day, but no thanks. Diving is not for me. God bless...

[@carolannburke5450]

Yes sir; I understand. Sounds like a miracle. I knew after failing the pool it was not for me. Great swimmer; we swam across the Hudson River on a choppy day, but no thanks. Diving is not for me. God bless...

[@heywoodjablowme1624]

This was an ADVANCED training dive?? With all that arm-flapping, you guys look like you've never had fins strapped to your feet before.

[@scubamarilu]

exactly!

[@vlamsamsam]

And by now they're probably dive master... I wouldn't dive with them for sure!!! I wonder how many dives they had looking at their armflapping and reactions. It simply strengthen the idea we (CMAS divers) have about the PADI (Pay And DIe) system. And where was the 100% pure Oxygen they should have given to the victim? Man oh man, what a tragedy!

[@raymondedge8889]

Samuel Adelaere No where in the article did it state it was a PADI dive.

[@handymatty9343]

Samuel Adelaere I was certified through PADI and its all about the instructors not the organisation. My instructor was very thorough and absolutely would not let us do anything unless we knew what we were doing and we could prove it. I agree with you on the O2 point you made, you should never refuse oxygen, always give it if in doubt.

[@raymondedge8889]

Samuel Adelaere Just where did you get the idea it was a PADI dive? Take your unprofessional crap somewhere else.

[@knightm27]

As an instructor globally for over 10 years this is one of the worst conducted deep adventure dives I've ever seen. Absolutely shocking. If you're a new diver, this is what NOT to do. ALL of the divers on this video should be hanging their heads in shame, not posting it on KZbin. New divers - don't worry is there is a safe, well managed way to conduct deeper dives.

[@mommy2libras]

I disagree. It should absolutely be posted to KZbin. If the only videos are of totally successful dives then you don't get the community conversations about what not to do and what you should do in very specific situations. But that's what's happening here. People are pointing to exact times in the video, saying what is wrong and what should have been done instead. It's a great learning tool. You can tell people all day what to do when this or that happens but them actually seeing the wrong thing happen in a video is more helpful in identifying when it's happening to them.

[@michaelbee2165]

@@mommy2libras Absolutely correct!

[@kevculmstock1]

actually posting this video was smart. so we can learn from it.

[@elchibrolito4217]

Im a new diver, (20 dives) but well trained.Cant believe this can happen... "advanced training" my ass.

[@Maxknell]

Diving master for a dude who burst his eardrum, experienced vertigo, yet continued to descend. Wonderful...

[@nobbytang]

…I’ve been a qualified diving instructor since 1985 and a tech instructor since 1993…I’ve seen many many students come and go in that time and the best were undoubtedly ones who were already “rum” lads (or females) ….l once did a trimix course in 1997 for Royal Marines …they were excellent…calm ,level headed , fit , strong and ate the course …..im sure that if you are from a different extreme environment then it doesn’t matter if you try your hand at BASE jumping , cave diving , parachute diving or bare knuckle boxing you end up taking too it quickly and competently….

[@Drazbot]

Best advice one of my dive instructors gave me was to pretend I was on the moon. Everything to be executed in relaxed, slow motion manner.

[@MrJayVFX]

"i had no idea what was up or down." meanwhile your floating above a reef floor.

[@barpleboy7773]

Alex Schuppel it’s actually confusing. i went scuba diving and when you go over a deep spot, your body tricks itself into thinking that you should swim down as far as you can, then you can’t tell which way is up or down sometimes, it’s not as easy as it seems.

[@AlexA-xi3xd]

You just have to calm down, stop and see where the bubbles go ...

[@Divingbigpete]

Well I've done over a 1000 dives and not once have I not know which way the surface is🤣🤣

[@Spoons7414]

PETE RIDDY 36” deep in your pool doesn’t count, Peter.

[@Dharma_Bum]

The guy had vertigo from the burst eardrum. Vertigo makes you disoriented and puts your balance out. I can see how vertigo under water would result in an inability to tell up from down.

[@aplap230]

Some people just aren't built for diving. Keeping calm is #1 rule, you are brave for continuing dive after bursting ear drum. You should of notified your dive buddy and surfaced.

[@leov60]

seeing this video I must be thankful to my instructors for advising me to build a lot of experience before deep diving. I am currently a rescue diver and waiting the end of the lockdown to do the deep practice. I saw so many errors in the dive. I can't blame you for all of it, but I can blame who took you there.

[@bloodylaugh]

Maaan this ain't flappy bird, tuck your hands in and move with your legs god dammit

[@chonker5725]

Ahmad Al-Shafai he didnt have oxygen can you even read?

[@bloodylaugh]

I am talking about everybody

[@Jose-mp4mk]

+Reserved Noodles ahahah do u at least know what you´re breathing? they had at least 6cylinders 12 regulators wow trust there was enough air, that was poor training..

[@MrMbetzold]

+Ahmad Al-Shafai Yeah, I agree, this was the first sign that they were on a dive that they should never have been on. The Divemaster should have recognized this and stopped the dive. If this is your opinion you shouldn't be teaching people to dive!

[@IDNeon357]

+Michael Betzold Well let's not be pricks. The diver master should have recognized this, surfaced everyone, gave them some reminders, and then guided them on a decent rather than let them taco-down and fin kick their way into the depths. He should have walked them through the basics one more time it would have mellowed the situation out.

[@buminbeer2]

I hate to add, but ALL of you should practice until you are sick, skills. Lay in 3' deep water. Take your mask off and on, a 100 times till it is second nature breathing without it. Learn to take your tank off/on, why? Because maybe 40' down and a dive buddy left you and the tank slipped, can't panic then or death. This takes a lot of skill since most BC's have weights in them and your wetsuit will make you float. There are many ways to do this, Ask your dive master or look up videos, too hard to explain here. Try taking off just one fin and see how you react, remove both and see as well. Remove your weights and hold them in your hand and put them back in, why? Because you may need to drop one for an emergency to come up/maybe not as you'll shoot like a rocket without them, but need to have the skill. NEVER stop exhaling or breathing, practice that as well. If you hate snorkels, carry a folding one in your BD. Carry a small knife on your BC for cutting the line you never thought you'd get tangled in or fending off that marine life coming at you. Carry spare air in case of a BC blow out or your octopus free-flows at 100' down. Why am I telling you all this, because all this has happened to me in over 200+ dives at some point, hell a spare mask is not a bad idea as well. Carry 3 flashlights in dark, I've had two go out before and a nightstick on your tank. Called the dive after 1 went out and on the way up, second went, I did not have a third(but my dive buddy did). Again, so rare, but it happened. Now on night dives, I carry 3 lights. It's not a scary sport, but shit happens, be prepared for it. For the new guys. Simply put is this. Most Marine/Freshwater things/creatures worth seeing is about 30' to the surface. Freshwater usually above the thermocline, IE 30'. Make sure there is bottom you can touch to feel safer. Worse case, a long breathe out to surface, little scare of embolism and about 0 chance of the bends, even skipping the safety stop. If really worried, stay above 15' until you have the skills to feel safe deeper. Remember, you can throw up through the regulator if needed, never remove it. We call that feeding the fish :)

[@ricardomontalban6004]

I’m gonna start with the basics. So, breathing, in and then what.....?

[@IntrebuloN]

A perfect example of what happens when people with a casual mentality do not respect the dangers of the activity they are participating in. Ego kills.

[@wjohnson858]

That is 100% on the DI and the dive shop. From the first it was very evident none of the divers had mastered the basics of buoyancy control, proper breathing and control of their arms during the dives. Several more dives with experienced divers willing to closely monitor the students was needed before moving on to the advance training courses. Great comment from Reuben "Nothing you can learn in a text book could prepare us...." Literally everything in the textbook would prepare you for that." very true statement. I have been diving for 48 years and have logged over 6000 dives. That dive was typical of the dive industry today, especially with PADI's model of "if the student has the money we will get him/her thru the course. The academics of todays courses are far and away better than when I certified in 1973 but the modern classes want the students to do the work online beforehand and then show up and take the academic test and then hit the pool and get started. Very little chance for explanations if a student is not clear on a subject.

[@chasehammock]

Guy had wayyyyyy to much weight on. He was sinking FAST.

[@jtrickard]

The way these guys were hyperventilating from the outset should have been the first clue that they were in a state of high anxiety about this dive. The utter lack of buoyancy control, flailing of arms, desperate kicking, etc., should have told the instructor this was likely to be a disaster dive.

[@gabrielex]

This is the main reason that stopped me from wanting to become a scuba master, too many responsibilities, too many people that are totally unprepared. I might someday reconsider and become a scuba guide but I don't think I'll ever go for instructor.

[@joem2130]

He said "nothing in textbooks could've prepared us for what happened that day" LITERALLY EVERYTHING LEADING UP TI GETTING IN THE WATER COULDVE PREPARED YALL FOR THIS!!!

[@buminbeer2]

Man , Been a diver since I was 15, now 40's. Most of these divers seemed like they never did more then 3 dives? Good God, no BC control, panic(get you killed more often then not), Swimming like a dog paddle, What the hell? I have in over 200 dives Never lost control, even in some bad situations. I am surprised most of them got certs, at all. In the 80's, you had to swim 300 yards, float 10 minutes, tread 10 minutes with arms only and so on. If you were not 100% at ease in the water, you flunked big. Advanced divers my ass.

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

I got carted last year. We had to float/tread water for 10min and swim 300yd. None of the divers in this video would have been citified open water divers by my instructor. I'm no great diver but I'm better then this.

[@imilkdude]

It's mostly holiday instructors that are very lax with the requirements because they want to get the cash rolling in. My instructor 6 years ago was very strict and I've had to do what you did in the 80's. He is now the director of tech diving diveSSI. My point is, each instructor differs. And those negligent instructors should have there licenses taken off.

[@TuureSiliamaa]

From my point of view, as a rookie diver, we certainly got a heck lot a better SSI advanced course with Big Blue Divers in Koh Tao than that hesitating, disturbingly wrong-went dive. (Thanks to Matt Waters!) 200m, 10min were the least we did and our instructor said that was the least we could do (at the start of the open waters). I hope nobody has to go through anything like that during their courses.

[@buminbeer2]

***** SSI here as well and trust me, in the 80's when I was certified, was a lot harder then now :)

[@58myemccm]

buminbeer2 Good Grief!!!! I agree with you. I started in the late 70's. Had to join the YMCA and practice 4 times a week for 6 months before scuba training, it was still difficult. Some people dropped out. Being from New England we were called mud divers on our trips south. I'm 63 and still go to R.I. on occasion. Still have my old style "dashboard". 8)

[@diverbob8]

When I talk about scuba diving, there are two points that I refer to as the most important. First, divers must develop a firm grip on their imagination and second, they must have be able to manage their ears. Early in my diving experience, I had reverse blocks occur on two seperate occasions. In these cases, I was able to equalize my ears on decent and then had blocks occur when trying to ascend. The first occurred in a pool while snorkling in about 7 feet of water. The second happened in a quarry at about 50 feet. In both cases, the vertigo that occurred caused nearly complete debilitation. Complete disorintation, nausea, racing heart beat, and in the second case, an urge to hyperventilate. Fortunately, I recognized what was happening and decended to relieve the pressure imbalance. I then worked carefully back up at a very deliberate pace. I can seriously feel this guys pain here, even though it was about 45 years ago since it happened to me. Thanks so much for sharing the information. As divers, there is always more to learn. I'm curious to learn about how his eardrum recovered. Best Regards, Bob A

[@kmartin8025]

Man. That is absolutely insane! I. Petrified of open water in general lol so obviously never done anything like this 😂 but on the real. This gave me such anxiety watching that craziness lol Great video brother. Glad everything turned out alright! Stay safe! Much love from Vermont!!💯🤙🇺🇸

[@YamahaR12015]

Can't wait for Dive Talk to cover this buffonery

[@jimb4404]

As an “Open Water Diver” I know my limits and capabilities. This was sad to watch. They were way over their heads from the start. Every time you enter the water you have to be 110% sure you can handle the depth, tides, currents and any other factors that you may encounter. Surprised no one was killed.

[@michaelhodgson8272]

I feel that a lot of divers can benefit from freediving first. The calmness and confidence in yourself gained from freediving will help reassure you when your equipment malfunctions and by just generally being more relaxed in the water.

[@mizzorian]

freediving has more deaths than scuba. Each have their own problems, they can't just freedive so scuba would become easier

[@michaelhodgson8272]

Mehran Mahdi competitively yes. Spearfishermen are also culprits to those numbers, however, freediving teaches you to be more at ease and comfortable in the water. When I took my scuba class I was the only student there that didn't panic or have issues when we had to practice buddy breathing or clearing the mask. As a Freediver I had a lot more confidence in myself vs in my gear. So when my gear fails, which even the best designs will, I can rely on myself to get out of a bind

[@chrish6412]

More knowledge is always a benefit, but free diving and SCUBA are different animals: one requires a breath hold, the other says don't hold your breath. The common factor, in my opinion, is understanding the mammalian dive reflex (free diving takes FULL advantage of it, whereas the in SCUBA it helps prepare the body for immersion, but one must override the MDR instinct to hold one's breath.)

[@hugosubmerso7355]

totally agree with you. I was a freediver passing the advanced open water scuba padi deeps and when i tried scuba i found it very easy, and also very dangerous....... it´s the easy that makes it dangerous, people forget the safety measures.... and that was what happened here...... i believe the guy that panic was experiencing nitrogen narcosis not panic due to overweight as you read here since e does not remember much....the overweight was also obvious on all of them........ by descending that fast he didn't realise it on time....... I hope you still freedive. Cheers

[@veraprokic3131]

just my thoughts...in aim to prepare for scuba, they wouldnt have to go so much deep freedive,into the danger zone, they should focus more on to the way to descent, way to balance, right attitude for buoyancy, FEEL the ways of the under water natural rules, and to get trained to endure and handle short term apnea ??

[@gabrielex]

This happens when scuba certifications get given away too easily, too fast and with too little training both theoretical and practical. I am deeply against the 3 days diving certifications, and even worse when people think going advanced when they have essentially no expert at all and they're clearly not comfortable in the water.

[@unclemilton815]

There is no way that these people are certified divers!

[@smburgess07]

How is this an Advanced Training Dive? All the divers look like they havent been below 50ft before. Most of the divers on this video have very stressful fin kicks...just my thoughts

[@PVCLime]

+Chaz Dingo PADI divers on thier Advanced course? ;) Doesn´t require much dives Before "Advanced training dives / Advanced OW".

[@mitchellchase6667]

Thank you, someone thinking the same thing I was.

[@thebryan3]

how do you handle people panicing worse than this as an instructor? especially in a deep dive...nevermind the fact it was supposed to be a training dive : /

[@andidixon-mould2299]

I have been doing my advanced SDI open water over the last month ensureing that each dive is not rushed. You cant become advanced just by having 5 extra dives. Since starting my advanced course I have had 15 dives each one utilising whats been tought in that session and the previous. When I dive I want to come up alive and just doing it for the glory of a title is stupid.

[@michaelcornette3127]

You can also tell that they’re inexperienced from their doggy paddling

[@greg77389]

Vertigo is a sign of inner ear barotrauma during diving. Poor sap didn't know how to equalize properly or control his descent. After his ear drum bursted, the pain would have subsided as pressure between the outer and middle ear was equalized and cool water rushed into his middle ear, leading him to believe his ears equalized when actually he just suffered middle ear barotrauma. Then he made it worse by going further down and attempting to equalize again. Middle ear barotrauma is the precursor to inner ear barotrauma, which caused his vertigo. He also might have experienced a reverse block and worsened it by forcefully trying to equalize, which can also cause direct inner ear barotrauma. Then the fool who knocked the regulator out of the disoriented diver's mouth didn't even give him his own regulator and switch to his secondary. These guys aren't fit for diving... They need more instruction.

[@0oTHEJACKo0]

at the end they say, nothing you could learn from a textbook. wtf? I mean they did like 50 things wrong what they tell you in every textboook. Guess the biggest mistake for doug was the he probably had a cold or a narrow eustachic tube and/or doesn't know how to equalize properly. no offense, but guys, which one of you has a certificate and if where did you get it from?

[@LordSolidusI]

English? 😂😂😂

[@superhacker35]

So if my eardrum bursts I should stop equalizing? Can I continue descending, or abort the dive? It sounds practical, the way you describe it. Burst eardrum, might as well finish a dive without the hassle of equalizing every 5 meters lol

[@greg77389]

superhacker35 You should abort the dive immediately. Sure it sounds practical if you want impaired hearing and risk of further ear damage...

[@superhacker35]

Thats what the guy in the video did, he aborted the dive as soon as he could. But what if It happens to me at 20+meters depth? Just skip the safety stop and emergency ascend or can I equalize until Im up?

[@paulcook7986]

I worked with divers in the North Sea. During coffee breaks I would talk about football, Coronation Street and beer, the divers talked about death! It was at the forefront of everything they did when they were working. Diving is for fish......

[@thechozen_rsa]

Thanks for showing us this man true legends will soon be with your guys dream of becoming a diver one day

[@spirossouliotis8263]

This video makes me love my diving center and instructors soooo much

[@CarMoves]

First off, none of these divers should have been doing their Advanced. * they all swim with their hands -- a sure sign they haven't mastered neutral bouyancy * they all came down the line too fast for newbies, not giving enough time to equalize their ears and pump up their bcs * if you feel vertigo half way down the line -- stop -- and sit on the line -- there should be zero stress to keep descending if you're not comfortable

[@chiaweilee1378]

right!

[@clucluc6]

CarMoves i

[@TRolla82]

Think you mean neutral buoyancy ;)

[@Sbeve_One]

Your either the first real diver here or the first to use Google either way I commend you!

[@finnrombaut5962]

I did 2 dives and yes i still suck but use my BCD and not my arms

[@ChristopheBOLLIGER]

The guy that had the major problem is not the guy who had a burst eardrum. Obviously the eardrum burst whilst going down, at that point the person concerned signals a problem and dive ends for all, his instructor or dive master takes charge and brings him to the surface. The second guys problem has nothing to do with the first but with one dive master or instructor things become complicated , looks like he was out of breath ( too much CO2) due to improper breathing. There again instructor ends dive and takes the diver to the surface making sure the mouth piece is in his mouth, correct ascent speed and making him exhale correctly. Often happens to us in tech dives.

[@CSJiGSaW08]

Thank god I got NAUI certified through a 3 month college course. The details and training will last forever. None of that 3 day training crap to get your cert...

[@jlm993]

the dive should have ended when the bloke lost his ear drum.......

[@bullsharkdb]

The dive operator with in the instructors are the ones to blame. I am an experienced master s d instructor who ran 2 dive shops for many years. Those people were not ready for that type of dive, not to mention the psychological or physical side. Before you will go for the adventure be sure the diving operator is the right one. Cheers

[@f.9658]

Ever did dives with TRIMIX?

[@ze2004]

How you know who is the right one if you dont have experience like does idiots? Same principle..

[@bullsharkdb]

@@ze2004 You may not have experience but you may listen to those who have experience and/or do your own diligence. You may be an ignorant in something but that does not make you an idiot. Ignoring is the first part of learning. Obviously this principle does not apply to sheeples and zombies, unfortunately the world population is becoming that.

[@ze2004]

@@bullsharkdb your opinion

[@ze2004]

@@bullsharkdb Being in dangerous situation without knowing what the basic principals are to survive is a little cowboy or an idiot.

[@soljawaiian]

OMG!!! The Waseem's rate of descent was ridiculous, but directly due to the extreme amount of weight he was carrying. It appears he was either taught wrong or completely blew off his leasons on bouyancy by his first instructor. On the same token, this instructor should have seen that coming. 🤷‍♂️

[@scubasteve2169]

I hope you're still alive 9yrs later. I also hope you got some really good lessons following this. Like, literally everything in the text books, tell you what to do in these situations. It's not hard. There were no gear checks, no one was watching out for one another, neutral buoyancy wasn't achieved, dive emergency wasn't immediately handled, no safety stops..etc. all of that, could've prevented everything that went wrong there. Most importantly, critically important, you didn't have a competent instructor who took charge of his group.

[@inoakey]

those divers were not yet experienced enough to dive deeper than 20m ... look at their trim ... look at their kicks... look at their bouyancy... holy crap! That's exactly what the problem is about PADI, SSI and all those "cheep holiday trainings".. learn to dive before you go deeper.. just take proper training until you feel comfortable...

[@jlm993]

Put Another Dollar In=PADI. ( after you sign the waiver)

[@waajman5181]

padi isn't that bad if you have a good teacher and not some dumbass also if this was AOW they need to go back to the first course again because they are idiots even the girl was wondering what the heck was going on i like the PADI near me because they have people that know what they are doing though it may just be the shop near me that isn't run by idiots

[@wulanrussell]

will james I agree. People just judge each other. My instructor didn't let me pass the exam when I'm still having bad bouyancy practice and movement

[@ryanbedwell2144]

I learnt to dive on holidays, With an SSI, then went back and got my advanced certification the next year. ive only done 15 dives. but it looks like these guys are makign the most basic of errors. I dont get how u blow an eardrum. i mean i know it can happen but only if you are struggling to equalize. in which case you just dont go any deeper. u wait till u can equalize then go lower. a lot of this doesnt make sense to me. You can learn from Padi or ssi, as long as you have a good teacher and common sense you should be fine.

[@GiskardRevenlov]

The RAID course in Thailand was pretty damn good

[@felixarbable]

you guys descended so fast

[@lookatmyright]

ikr lol I would get my ass whooped if I did that, like literally.

[@saidalex]

Whats wrong with a descend speed? If everything is ok and you know what you doing going down is usually quick.

[@lookatmyright]

@@saidalex everything explained... they don't know what theyre doing.

[@yasseenmoussalli9581]

@J S I'm still in my training, and my worst fears are lack of contact with other divers and accidental rapid ascents.

[@teri4608]

Descended too fast so didn’t take enough time to equalize properly, resulting in burst eardrum... And then at the bottom, they’re flailing, swimming erratically, not controlling buoyancy, stepping on the coral, knocking out regulators, no sense of calm or logic - wtf - bunch of buffoons... They are lucky no one was seriously hurt.

[@Rickoshay]

I'm Naiu certified and I've dived there numerous times - it's not that deep - certainly well within sport divers limits and conditions were ok. Looked like some of those divers weren't properly trained and the buddy pairs weren't checking on each other.

[@34siegfriedgamaliel65]

"I had no idea what's up or down" Good tip, observe the air bubbles

[@michaelstrike1533]

Your regulator sounds like sponge bob. ;-) I'm a certified diver, and all of my dives have been peaceful. Thanks for posting an actual video on what a panicked diver looks like so that we can learn to recognize the signs.

[@camerontweedy8885]

Michael Strike yes you get it I thought it was saying shit the regulator

[@lookatmyright]

I could even hear his heartbeat lol, this video kind of makes me scared of diving again. But then I remembered I've never had any problem underwater, even if I had I could sort it out myself. But idk why, what makes me panic the most when diving is when I don't have my mask on, as long as I got my mask on, I could just dive without the regulator for like 10 minutes.... no that's a lie, I could probably dive without regulator for just 3 minutes.

[@DavidMiller1]

The primary problem here was buoyancy control. You cannot be comfortable if your buoyancy is not correct. Everyone with problems was negatively buoyant and too eager to get down. Does not at all look like an advanced training dive where divers should be comfortable 15 feet down and give an okay sign to a safety diver before going on. Was the water cold? Was that the reason for your vertigo? Might have cleared up by just adjusting to the water at the surface for 5 minutes.

[@realfortin]

The vertigo is because the diver burst an ear drum which then begs the question-why wasn't the dive aborted? WTF

[@timschumacher9254]

im doing my advanced dive right now.. and your acactly right boyancy control is a big point in he whole advanced dive package.

[@ankurshah23]

Seems like everything went to hell due to buoyancy issues. The fast descent, the ear drum, the crazy feet flapping, the panic of having no control and continuing to descent, the breathing pace increases......etc

[@karlozfox]

I don't even have my open water certification but even I know that I can clink something to my tank to make noise and have the divers attention, tell them something went wrong. Also, they seem so distracted and confident they forget about their buddies

[@davidstagg9898]

who does a duck dive to descend. these people shouldn't be diving

[@luislizard2626]

That's what I thought ... Not even bothering if someone was near .....

[@fareskhrais5203]

Fins ERRWHERE

[@thebryan3]

the best part when he did that is i think he kicked the other guy in the face....or at least got really close to it. im pretty sure if i take a fin to the face because someone deciedes to duck dive almost ontop of me were gonna have a word or two after the dive.

[@connor55653]

Fares Khrais no kidding even on the thyssenkrupp signa 5 or signa 6

[@connor55653]

Fares Khrais no kidding even on the thyssenkrupp signa 5 or signa 6

[@Heart2HeartBooks]

If you are close to becoming a dive master then I am scared to go diving with a "Dive Master"

[@Moodymongul]

I'm just a PADI advanced open water certified diver. Which I did over 30 years ago (and haven't used it much since). Even I noticed/saw most all the issues. One thing that really stands out; judging by belts and the speed of descents. They were way overweighted. Which is dangerous for so many reasons, but less time to balance your ears (before they 'pop') is one. Glad everyone survived!

[@bigpop-popsmurf]

I know this is a very late comment but thanks to your dive master and Niki for keeping a level head. I hope your recovery was sound and you healed from your injury. Diving is classed sometimes as a sport. It is a life changing event each dive. You and your diving buddy are each-others priority but EVERY diver in your sight is your responsibility and your obligation to look after. I hope you serve well as Dive Masters and the best to each and every one of you. Incredible video. Just an observation: I did not see one person check their tank pressure nor did I see organization. Also when your eardrum burst, why was the dive continued? NO BUDDY SYSTEM. All diver seem really out of control and each person swimming for their lives. (appearance in video), why was your injured diver left to fend for himself? There is a recovery position that must be followed. Who the heck was the Diver Master on this dive? I hope you got your money back and I do not want to hear they told you the almost death of 4 divers was priceless. You all need to stay with another Diver Master and find someone who knows what they are doing before you dive. This could have been your life brother. Thank you for this video/evidence...