DIY 8 Year Coating Failed After Just 11 Months! Was 100% Installed Correctly / Maintained

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This is a short video showing how this coating has failed. We have installed almost 300 coatings over the years, but was the first for this coating (luckily only ever installed it on 2 vehicles)
Take with this what you will. Not trying to bash any company but the truth is the truth here.
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[@bige7322]

Thanks for the video. I'm looking forward to DYI's response on this. I subbed and will watch for an update.

[@knightautopcd]

Thanks for the feedback and watching / subbing!

[@davidboyce6427]

Can’t wait to see how DIY handles this. Appreciate you sharing this video 👍

[@knightautopcd]

I'm in the process of collecting some info and recommendations and we'll have to strip the protection we did put on it in the meantime - so we we'll see 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@diydetailofficial]

@@knightautopcdwhat toppers were used?

[@knightautopcd]

@@diydetailofficial ceramic gloss ... one time may have been Brian / Apex Detsils BC3 but I'm not 100% sure on that ... I'm 99% sure it was always Ceramic Gloss

[@dekkerlundquist5938]

Looking forward to seeing how DIY respond to this...

[@knightautopcd]

We have a couple responses but want to do one thing in the next video before going public with them - thanks for watching!

[@user-oe2dc6ow8q]

Wow. Thanks for being honest, but yet still giving the manufacturers a chance respond prior to running their name through the mud. Stay honest and true and don’t turn into a product pusher on here and let your business and honesty bring you success.

[@knightautopcd]

Thanks for the great feedback! We don't intend to! We want to be just an honest no bs no frills kinda channel! Thanks for watching!

[@danielarthurs4173]

Did you use diy panel prep before install or did you mix products?

[@knightautopcd]

Did not use diy panel prep, as you cannot buy it in gallons - you're strapped to pint bottles and as a business model paying $250 a gallon via 16 oz is insanse but, even take Brian over at Apex he uses one brand of prep for any coating he does so that doesn't worry me that much - and we either used fireball reborn or pdp panel wipe - done 100's of coatings with either never an issue

[@lrocco]

Water Spot remover to fight the layer of minerals and coating will be back.

[@knightautopcd]

That's going to be in the next video, and like we keep saying, if we owe any apologies they will come with my face on camera doing a proper apology - thanks for the feedback and watching!

[@diydetailofficial]

@@knightautopcdno need for an apology, in this video there is clearly an issue, we will work together to solve it.

[@knightautopcd]

@@diydetailofficial well I just wanted to reiterate it in the comments - not trying to bash anything it's not the way we roll however IF we've made a misstep and owe it to whomever for whatever that's just what we do - so as a business owner I do appreciate it and we can figure it out

[@nenadbokan5758]

Great vid , unbaised. Thanks

[@knightautopcd]

Thank you! We try to have all our videos be unbiased! Only way to be! Thanks for watching!

[@rubenharris9241]

This coating is probably on thousands of vehicles globally by now…..with as many happy customers. Gotta love the internet…

[@knightautopcd]

Appreciate the feedback but with all due respect the same can be said about everyone who buys F11 and it doesn’t last one wash and claims to be some form of ceramic protection - but with that being said we have reached out to DIY and will be doing a follow up video - thanks for you feedback and for watching!

[@tommyholt3465]

That’s completely true. But my experience tells me that most people don’t know if their coating has failed or not. Concerns about contact angles, beading, fast sheeting, slow sheeting etc. are more the concerns of detailers and rare hyper enthusiasts who add tend to use toppers religiously.

[@05xrunner]

You mentioned its not clogged but did you do all the steps to unclog after a winter. Iron with decon towel and then hit it with a proper water spot remover. The steps you mentioned I would not consider a decon to unclog a coating especially after a winter. To me it looks like its still clogged. Id be interested in seeing after those steps on how its reacting.

[@charlesbrasington7599]

Noticed how he responded to the people that was praising him and not the ones that asked him about doing all the other steps i unsubscribed from his channel because their videos suck

[@05xrunner]

@@charlesbrasington7599 yea something odd. 1 he didn’t do a decon at all and I am wondering about the install. He said it was perfect but never gave a break down on what. I have done DIY 3 on mine and 3 and 8 on buddies car and over a year later the 3 year still beads great.

[@clints8888]

very strange, why does the front fender look so good? did you use any topper in 11 months? might be worth a water spot remover like “jamie the cleaner” just did.

[@knightautopcd]

It is and yes it's been maintained 3x in 11 months plus the topper on top of the install so I don't get it - I was in a severe time crunch today as we were getting to drive it out of town so I'll be removing the topper we put on it for the meantime (I mean why not at least try to protect what's there if anything) and trying a few things and if they don't work I'll have to consider it failed and thanks for watching!

[@DelgadoDetailing]

That's so weird man! I installed one 8 months ago and it's still beading like day 1. Maybe you got a bad batch

[@AmirAbdullah]

Did you use the Waterspot remover after the wash ? I didn’t see a follow up wash I’m just skimming through the video. Did you do a formal decon wash ( no clay, but iron remover and a normal wash followed by a waterspot remover ? If so then yeah this particular coating died. And sometimes it happens, sometimes the coating goes on good and adheres but somewhere along the way panel prep doesn’t get all wiped off, the coating took a substantial beating from weather , hard water , a sealant was used prior and it’s sitting flat on the coating. Or sometimes the coating just fails for whatever reason and the brand needs to take responsibility for it ans help make the situation right.

[@knightautopcd]

Not yet but we are going to, we did use our strip wash on it to remove any existing toppers off of it to see what we were working with so when we did the equivalent of carpro descale we knew there wasn't any existing toppers present - We did top it with Ceramic gloss then just to give it some sort of protection if the coating had truly failed It's the vehicle I'll get it back here as soon as I can we've exploded with business so it might be a few weeks before I get the follow up filmed and posted

[@AmirAbdullah]

@@knightautopcd Yeah just know Descale isn’t the best at descaling. In fact if I was you I’d use Owners Pride “Spotless” after a full chemical decon before declaring it dead. Especially if you used a topper on it which are significantly weaker and will clog and hold on to minerals. Which need to be cleaned monthly unless it has signs of proper protection. But yeah man good luck to you on your mission.

[@knightautopcd]

@@AmirAbdullah it was actually Fireball PH3 but yeah the full chemical decon has been done minus the water spot remover… i did look at it after driving over the weekend it did have some water spots BUT it did rain so idk if they were just fresh from the rain or were already there, but I doubt the latter I would’ve seen them 🤷🏻‍♂️… we shall see

[@tylerboss7792]

An 8 year coating should definitely last the first year 100% with quarterly maintenance washes

[@knightautopcd]

Yes indeed it should! We are going to be trying a thing or two that was mentioned by DIY next week and a few other installers, and while we are hopeful we are wrong, and I'll be honest, if we're wrong I'll say it in the next video on this coating / Jeep face to face with the camera and apologize but if we aren't wrong.. it is what it is sadly... Thanks for watching!

[@The1Music2MyEars]

Scott HD's KZbin channel. Just going to leave that there

[@attomicfpv122]

Acid based shampoo? I think this might be your problem.... "shampoo with a stronger pH value can neutralize paint protection, including ceramic coating."

[@knightautopcd]

That was used AFTER your normal ph neutral and is meant to unclog a coating, now certain shampoos that are formulated to remove waxes and sealants will def get removed depending on tbe ph scale but typically those are in the 9-10 range on the ph scale which actually makes them alkaline but this was ph 3 ... and for watching!

[@05xrunner]

you are terribly wrong. An acid based shampoo will NOT damage a coating in anyway. Even if the shampoo claims its a low PH of say 3 by the time you add in the water its probably closer to a pH of 5. Most acid based shampoos I would consider are for light decon and do not dig in deep to unclog or remove minerals like a water spot remover will do for the coating

[@CouchAssault]

That's all water spot remover is, acidic soap. It may kill some weak coatings, 8 year should not be considered a weak coating.