Graphene Coatings VS Ceramic Coatings

Graphene coatings are now being sold in the detailing world as an innovation over Ceramic Coatings. They claim to have better protection and water spot resistance than Ceramic Coatings, but is it all hype? Join me as I test Ethos Graphene coating against Gtehcniq Crystal Serum Light and learn as much as I can about this new coating.
Correction 6:24 Ethos recommends waiting 1 hour before applying second layer
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#graphene #ceramic

[@nospam-hn7xm]

Never in a million years would I have imagined sitting through an hour video of product testing for an auto coating material. This is the most fascinating, comprehensive, understandable, and unbiased product test I've ever seen. Jason, you've done an outstanding job. I am truly impressed. Wished you lived and worked in the Miami area.

[@andrewsaint6581]

There is a twenty minute video on washing microfibre cloths somewhere. Brilliant, like this. PS, I got the Mrs to get liquid detergent for the washing machine and not powder because of that video. Don't tell her why though.

[@charliegoodwyn9792]

Fantastic job thank you so very much

[@stevenstockman6894]

Same here.

[@stevenstockman6894]

I learned a lot from that video

[@firewoodtime2]

Project Farm is another great source.

[@Daemonblade]

If I've learned anything from this video, it's that the best protection for your vehicles bodywork is purple tape.

[@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow]

Bruh!! they do make vinyl..like that stuff your girl put's on her nail's...

[@kmabike718]

@@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow That was hilarious!!

[@papagen00]

or don't drive the vehicles.

[@charchindotcom]

LMAO!!!

[@SanGerman59Holguin79]

@@papagen00 Maximum Garage Isolation!

[@nicksdragon6929]

Jason, after watching all six different videos by the KZbin superstars on the 303 graphenes, and so many others about the newest product in ceramics, the graphene, I think Ethos represents all of them in your example. My take is that your video has far surpassed all the others in its depth, scope, and conclusions. From what I can gather over the last couple of months and more specifically the last two weeks, Graphene is more of a new "Buzz" word than an actual new product that covers your car in graphene for protection. It is more of a different recipe within the ceramic world. AMMO NYC explains it better than anyone I have read or watched. Your test validates exactly what he explained on his charts, graphs, and chemical analysis. After everything has been said and done, my conclusion is that the "new" ceramic we are now calling "Graphene" are a little easier to apply than some of the other ceramics, but when it comes to all the other attributes, gloss, protection, water beading, water spot issues, and durability, well, they seem very similar indeed. The greatest video I have seen in a long time and I would love to see you and AMMO NYC join in producing a video. Thank you so much.

[@randylee7557]

Can you link the video or article where AMMO NYC talks about graphene? I can't seem to find it.

[@GoGreen041]

@@randylee7557 look up his Reflex Pro video, he talks about it a few minutes in

[@garykish8951]

This reminds me more of the investigative journalism stories that used to exist years (decades) ago. How refreshing to see this kind of reporting hasn't been lost like so much else.

[@Greg_P611]

That chemist from Dr. Beasleys impresses me. You can tell he's honest to a T and doesn't have that corporate salesman type of talk. I'm definitely going to look into their products

[@johnweichselberger314]

(With a Southern Belle charm) Amen! ;)

[@marjoriemorrison5004]

Another good stuff. I always think that the advancement of technology is getting more and more remarkable rapidly. In the near future, ceramic coatings may get the feature of bulletproof.

[@laxbeach2381]

The chemist seems knowledgeable, however there also seems to be a small hint of bias in his explanations, since he’s got a coating as well.

[@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow]

I'm just going 2 drink the whole sweet bottle...

[@grantperkins368]

He's a salesman, to my mind; he could have said no it's not going to stop a bullet ... giggle ...

[@ObsessedGarage]

Jim is so fun to listen to when he is talking chemistry. Thanks for digging into this. Someone needed to do it! Well done Jason.

[@TotalDetailing]

I appreciated what Jason did here. He put the industry first, as a whole, over individual profits. The responses from the various Graphene coating companies is very telling of what is going on with these underdeveloped products. He saved me from buying $500 in coatings for my business that truly hasn't been properly vetted or developed.

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Jim is a straight up, down to earth, intelligent dude. Thanks for the support Matt.

[@demonslayer8085]

Appreciate CAP for making this vid on graphene! After watching the entire vid, I’d have to agree with the chemist from Dr Beasley, this is more marketing hype than an actual new product that is superior to ceramic coatings. I also take it that CAP came to the same conclusion as they mentioned in the description that they no longer carry Ethos Graphene!!

[@richardpowell723]

No need to go down that rabbit hole now...

[@ScottHD]

Agreed. Great video.

[@BradleyNilsen]

Now coat half of a car in Graphene, and the other half in CSL. Live with it for 6-12 months, and report back monthly. This is the only real way to test a coating in my opinion. From my hands on experience with CSL that slickness you love will diminish quickly, as well as the crazy hydrophobicity unless topped with EXO. This is a great starting point, but I think it needs to be expanded and tested further for a true conclusion.

[@cp5472]

Agree!

[@EclisseDetailing]

I have my vehicle with one side Avalon king and the other side Adam’s graphene. It has been over a year. Both are doing well but I think graphene is not as slick to me. I don’t think graphene makes much of a difference from what I experienced so far talking to other retailers and my own experience.

[@DriveItRyan]

Thank you for taking the time to compare these 2 coatings and really put them to the test. Well done!

[@bear5446]

As a newer detailer I appreciate the testing and the content on your channel... saves my business a ton of time and money. Money I'll probably spend at one of your classes/courses.

[@wittawatter]

I'm more impressed with that tape holding up then both the coatings 😅

[@franksattler6053]

I had the same thought as I watched this.

[@reavis1474]

Same here. That tape is impressive

[@WASTED__POTENTIAL]

Exactly what I came to say. That tape needs to be sent off to Project Farm for testing.

[@a111z]

3M Automotive painters tape for curved surfaces. It’s good stuff.

[@littlefishinggoat5409]

I'm going to try the tape as a full PPF wrap! (No not really! 😉🤣)

[@TheCarDetailingChannel]

This is one of the best videos on the internet when it comes to facts, knowledge, and just common sense when it comes to Graphene. I could listen to Jim explain things all day long

[@gobiexploring]

"I got out of the coating industry drama but I decided to create a new coating" LOL okay guy.

[@3toedSloth75]

I appriciate the investigation format of this video. This is one of the biggest questions in the industry right now and there are no clear answers. All this investigation and info is greatly appriciated. Thank you.

[@AndysAutoCarePlus]

Absolutely great information and great testing at the end! I appreciate all your hard work on this Jason!

[@BJP719]

Thanks for taking the time to create this video. Looking forward to the days when Graphene coatings can protect against door dings! For now I'll continue to park in BFE!

[@Whissht]

I wish every mechanic, store, shit I buy, other services, doctors, etc was as honest, transparent, thorough, curious and as detailed as this guy. What an amazing video

[@kd8227]

I have been waiting for someone to explain graphene coating for some time, much appreciated guys great video

[@zahidmerchantali3560]

Adam's UV Graphene Ceramic Coating is a clear, nanocrystalline coating that protects your vehicle from weather, chemicals, and UV rays while repelling water, dirt and other contaminants. Providing 9H hardness, 7+ years of protection even in the harshest conditions.

[@samharmon4692]

Our industry needs more of this level of education. We as pros are not immune to the marketing buzz words (in fact, most of us probably use them, i.e. "hand wash" etc.) Thanks CAP for this video! I'm always looking for the best for my customers and feel that I stick my neck out hoping these products live up to the claims. At the end of the day, I'm the one that the customer will hold responsible. Thanks again.

[@clintonmiller4917]

Nice to know there are companies out there that still strives to do the best work possible and cares about their customers. Where are u located bro. I'm an Birds fan so you must be Philly/ South Jersey

[@gcam474]

Rock star dude! One of the best You Tube videos I’ve seen on ANYTHING! You really dig in to the tech. Thanks a million - or at least for the cost of my paint job. Cheers

[@cbeserra]

Excellent research! I was not expecting this level of commitment in a product review.

[@caseycampbell245]

Great video. Thanks you Jason for putting this together.

[@ianhawkins4132]

Jason, a message from a real coatings chemist with a PhD: Hydrofluoric Acid of any strength is potentially lethal if splashed on your skin. I would not do what you did unless I was wearing a specialist chemical protection suit. Bare arms and exam gloves are a trip to your local chemical burns unit. Always have calcium gluconate cream to hand if you must use HF.

[@deepinmythots752]

For real… That’s what street bombers use to etch tags on windows cause it just eats away at the glass leaving a permanent cloudy surface behind. But it’s well known that it’s VERY dangerous to deal with…if you accidentally spill some on your hand or arm it’s gonna melt away the flesh instantly. It’s literally the acid you think of when you see monster movies where they dissolve bodies in barrels of acid lol

[@rhengst22]

Hydroflouric acid does NOT burn skin silly. It is odorless and looks like water and goes through the skin and starts eating the calcium in your bones. You are thinking of hydrochloric acid maybe.

[@allen5202]

Been researching to learn more on ceramic coating for my car and saw this greatly put video. Informative yet entertaining at the same time. Subscribed right after the video! 👍🏻

[@I_Am_Jesse_James]

This was awesome! Best hour I spent watching KZbin. Very excited to try this on my Audi

[@MarkusKleis]

To clarify, because I don't think Beasley property answered your question about graphene in relation to the strength. The notion that graphene is 200x stronger than steel is ONLY true when you talk about a ONE ATOM thick layer, which is how graphene lays out, compared to one atom thick of steel. Steel, like "bullet proof glass," is not actually bullet proof until they reach a certain thickness. Furthermore, the "strength" of graphene is based on a linear force test, since graphene itself is 1 layer thick, and means that pulling it apart from both ends (effectively) makes it the strongest. But the question then becomes, how then does that play a role in a coating when the formula obviously contains 98%+ NON-graphene material. Still waiting on that answer.

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

The answer is that he has not seen any benefit of adding Graphene into a coating because it’s not creating the lattice structure needed to create the “barrier” layer.

[@MarkusKleis]

Maze to confusion But we don’t know from what. I have been asking this question since graphene was first toted. Nobody has given even a basic explanation for HOW the graphene itself causes that. It *could* be helping, but we don’t know if it is something else in the formula.

[@amounifnd]

Great point. You would still poke your finger through 200x atoms width of steel.

[@sthildas4857]

The notion of producing that structural chicken wire layer has yet to be explained. We know Graphene as a product entity has great potential, adding it as a ratio does not in itself improve strength..or function.

[@jev2867]

Graphene is being explored in the bike industry for thinner thus lighter frames. But, they have difficulty of forming the material in whatever process they have available. I can imagine graphene can only be added for coating a surface in the smallest amount that it has no advantage over a ceramic.

[@KevinD-WRX]

TL DR: "Graphene coatings" are not graphene coatings. They're ceramic coatings with graphene/graphite additive.

[@rhodesianwojak2095]

So what's the difference?

[@KevinD-WRX]

@@rhodesianwojak2095 watch the video.

[@jamesmeyers8384]

Rhodesian Wojak nothing. It’s a marketing gimmick

[@arapaimagold8088]

They're using the same carrier, only MSDS will be able to tell if there's any silicon dioxide or polysiloxane in it.

[@sooocheesy]

Hate to break it to you, but ceramic coatings aren't ceramic coatings. They're coatings with ceramic additive.

[@jwayneair]

THIS kinda content is what my brain NEEDS, regardless of subject matter. I want to get the deep dive to know why and how a product works.

[@alfredojuarezaguilar304]

I liked this very much tbh. I put off learning about the science behind graphene and Im glad you brought up points to think about for detailing needs. This helped make me choose what the company needs for what we are looking for.

[@OtterRose1]

I became a Graphene "fan" immediately upon hearing about it. I have been so excited about the MANY applications and developments, and THESE interviews with Jim and Tim are among the most helpful for me out of a couple of hundred videos!!

[@tristengarrett2722]

I use graphene ceramic coating on all of my clients vehicles and I’ve found out it that it keeps it’s water heading for years. I had a previous ceramic coating on my personal vehicle and i polished again and applied the graphene coating and it goes on very easy, it wipes off easy and so far after a year it looks like the first day that I put it on

[@GSP-76]

How has your graphene coatings held up? Your message was 3 years ago so id be interested to hear your opinion on graphene now that a lot of time has passed...i personally love the 303 nano graphene spray...it applies so easy, doesn't require a ton of orep work and can easily be reapplied as needed. Do uou orefer a specific product?

[@reflectonauto]

Appreciate the time and effort you took to help us all with an eye opening video on the graphene coatings. Kudos to you. Heartfelt Thanks.

[@mitchellgross6982]

One of the best and informative videos I've seen. Congratulations on your attention to detail and integrity.

[@JamieTheCleaner]

Thank You CAP for the deep dive into this subject learned a lot!

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

thanks for watching!

[@trevormangus7832]

I like that the wait time or cure time for gradine is much quicker. I don’t have time to wait for a week for a product to cure before it gets wet

[@shaynewilliams727]

The BEST video yet... Keep up the great work... Thanks for the honest review!

[@nomis9052]

Congratulations for being at a point in your business where vendors need to call you when they find out your testing there products.

[@dineshd1793]

Appreciate the effort and scientific content that went into the video. I wish more manufacturers offered actual chemistry and testing data rather than buzz words

[@middlegaautomotivedetailin1350]

Ethos seems kinda worried. Everything will be tested it's just a given. Owner doesn't want drama?? Well it's the detail world it's very competitive. Jason you are badass!!

[@BT-fn6eh]

The Ethos owner is a drama catalyst

[@jshrawder49]

that was so well done! Thanks fo riding that test and getting the details about the products.

[@kylechow6072]

I've been looking at Dr. Beasley products and this sealed the deal. Well done Jason, this is the best video about graphene coatings out.

[@detailpeoria]

Absolutely love it, thank you for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive review! I learned a ton and I think you had the right guys for the discussion. The graphene can be stronger than steel and kevlar and still not be bulletproof. A single atom layer of steel or kevlar is not bulletproof either. You need a good thickness of those materials that are millions and millions of atoms thick.

[@ctuna2011]

Everything about graphene is dependent on you having it in one big sheet . Not a little pieces.

[@anthonyalbury5390]

Very thorough and informative. You have a new subscriber here

[@malachi0420]

Most informative and enjoyable detailing video i have seen in awhile. I really appreciate the time and effort you shared with all of us making this video. Two thumbs up easy!!

[@weliftnation2418]

Wow great video. I just subscribed. Thank you for the time you toke to discover everything possible knowledge to understand every product you work with, and to help you and all of us understand what works and what dosnt. Thank you bro again.

[@canwefixitdiy3337]

Thanks for doing this, I just recently have been looking into getting something like this done to my vehicles since we plan to keep both of them for a long time to come. I was also considering on ttempting to apply this myself but my detailing skills are no where on point and I lack the patience and time to do it properly. So from a consumer perspective your video gave me plenty of information to decide to get a professional to do the application in order to ensure the prep-work is handled properly. Also what would make me consider spending more on a product that currently does not show that extra cost is worth it. And even though I'm not a detailer by any means but if I was, what would this extra cost of materials which will funnel down to my customers really provide? I take it down to a simple process that was explained to me when I was shopping for my wife's engagement ring and I was getting caught up in all the meticulous details of diamonds. What do people look at first? Answer: The size. In the cast of these coatings, what are people looking at first? Answer: How long they last for my cost. All the other items fall into place when that initial aspect is taken care of first. Thanks again for the video.

[@wyaldkingdom]

I have come to the conclusion that I should apply blue tape to my vehicle in order to protect it. Lol Awesome video, you really do have an analytical mindset when it comes to evaluating products and I appreciate the time you took to talk to experts from the world of coatings.

[@shadowwalker255]

Super impressed with the detailed analysis! Great video.

[@billhale3293]

great video. New to you guys. Found you in the how to start a detailing business video. Also a great one. Keep doing what your doing.

[@samcas707]

the real mvp is that painters tape

[@barrybij8079]

Amazing how chemical resistant they both are,,,Makes me feel good that if I have a little overspray they won't peel right off. Ethos makes really good products at least from my experience ... It would beinteresting to see Gtechcniq compared to a 50 bottle off of amazon.... Cost vs benefit etc..great info..thankyou for the time spent putting this together

[@ctsvmapper]

Amazing? They are the same chemcial product one just happens to have graphine included so you buy their product and are charged 30 more for it. Grpahine is snake oil talk. Its impossible to distribute speicifc molecular requirements for the benefits of graphine to be utilized. Whats next aerogel coating?

[@AngelGonzalez-ni1pe]

Jason thanks very very much for your time ... learning more

[@frederickfitzwilliam5909]

I love the detailed information in this video. Great questions! This channel is more than just washing cars 💪

[@tdfpublic886]

Thanks for the video. It very clearly demonstrated that overall there is little difference between graphene and ceramic coatings. And the little difference there is, seems to be in favor of ceramic. But the most important metric is the price to performance ratio. And Gtehcniq Crystal Serum Light beat out Ethos Graphene with ease.

[@joeysultan3621]

You can't accurately measure the surface temperature of the hood with a infrared thermometer without knowing the emissivity of the coating. The one used in the video isn't adjustable either. Best to use a thermocouple fastened to the bottom of the hood below each coating. It's unlikely that there'd be a measurable difference however given that they're both on the same metallic substrate. The middle of the hood itself would transmit heat between the hotter side and the cooler side. I better test would be to use to separate hoods (1 per treatment).

[@melvinmontes3505]

Hey Bud! As a professional looking into these products, I cannot stress the gratitude to you for doing this video! Thanks !!

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

You’re welcome!

[@One_Guy]

Great Video.. Lots of details here glad you took the time to make this!

[@henryfreeman6113]

I’ve been waiting for this!!! Ty Jason!

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Cheers!

[@vorox7658]

Chicago Auto Pros ok

[@Deriggs007]

Thanks Jason for taking the time to conduct this unbiased review. I'll tell you what, the best thing about the video is the new Rupes line ;). I love CSL and can't wait to give Ethos's Grapehne matrix a spin. One thing not mentioned often is that Ceramic coatings aren't going to get much better and that Graphene coatings (however they are made) are arguably nearly as good as the Ceramic that have been tested/proven with R & D over the years. Graphene is still in its infancy and overtime, I believe that it'll be better than Ceramic coatings, but it's not there yet.

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Dylan Riggs I agree 100%

[@Chris-dv7ie]

@@ChicagoAutoPros what would you recommend for a matte black paint?

[@thehdlookstudio]

Jason, thanks so much for this brother. This kind of information is gold, and this video needs to make it's way throughout all of the consumer/prosumer groups.

[@frelmar]

I've been detailing just short of 12 years. Been using graphene the last couple years and absolutely love it thus far.

[@cpfb68]

I know this is a 1.5+-year-old video and many things have changed in that time (or has it?) Can you possibly do an update on Graphene coatings today in 2022? THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! Great information! Subscribed and Notified for all new ones!

[@davidnguyen4888]

Great video, I am doing a test on my personal vehicle with SPS graphene vs Cquartz vs CSL. It is a bit unfair test since its pro vs consumer but its what I had access to at the time. Enjoyed the inclusion of Ethos and Dr. Beasley, I like seeing both sides of the story but in the end... The results are what we are after.

[@razz2o46]

Let me know what you come up with! I am a SPS installer and Love it!

[@skmg2888]

What was the winner? CSL?

[@davidnguyen4888]

@@skmg2888 CSL by itself has failed already. july is 1 year mark. cquk 3.0. sps. csl+exo cquk+gliss are all still beading

[@jorishnathanael1812]

Been waiting for these kind of review, thanks mate

[@MS-vl3im]

Thank you for your video! Very informative and really helped me to decide the coating on my new car.

[@nathansherman1366]

So, I take it a ceramic coating is still the way to go. Just real ,honest , straight forward info. Great video!

[@fishingmedic1]

I put the ethos graphene matrix on about three months ago on my tundra. It was the first coating I ever applied. What I can say about it is amazing. It was easy to apply, great gloss and slickness but again this is my first coating. Great video though love to see honest educated videos! Keep it up Jason

[@themfu]

Wow that was a thorough set of tests and interviews. So much effort yet so easy to watch.

[@michaelalberson126]

Absolutely awesome presentation of the two products and this helps me to make a decision on which one to get. THANK YOU.

[@mell3109]

Love the phone call, not kiss ass at all, straight to the point, top marks.

[@alexjensen990]

As a car guy I want to thank you for the videos that you make. My detail game, which didn't exist until I started watching your channel and Pan the Organizer, will never be the same. As a chemist, I have a couple issues with your episode. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet (forgive me, but I didn't read all 250 comments); however, to measure the temperature resistance of the coating you would need to measure the temperature from the bottom of the hood. Preliminarily, I would suggest that the higher temperature of the graphene side is actually encouraging. It's tells you that there is more energy being repelled on the graphene side than on the ceramic side. This should occur whether the uninterrupted layer is intact or not because the conductive properties are inherit to the particle (as far as I've read anyway) if connected to another particle or not. In other words, it should offer the heat displacement as long as the suspended particles are present, random or latticed. Secondly, when you were using chemicals at the end you used Hydrochloric Acid, not Hydrofluoric Acid... Or you would be dead... For reference look up the SDS on Hydrofluoric Acid. It's really nasty stuff. I helped stabilize a coworker who had concentrated HF splashed on her neck. I'll spare you the details, but even now I can remember the scene as if it just happened. So, HCl, not HF. Otherwise, keep up the good work!

[@arapaimagold8088]

Yeah, HF is really nasty. And I still can't find any chemical resistant sprayer able to withstand it.

[@alexjensen990]

@@arapaimagold8088 honestly, you're better off not using it unless absolutely need to. What are you using HF for?

[@alexjensen990]

@@arapaimagold8088 I'm sure there's an alternative... That is unless you're doing compliance radiochemistry like my coworker was. 😉

[@arapaimagold8088]

Mostly for cleaning mineral crust around door jamb and emblems. The minerals in my country is nasty. There's no single deposit remover made for car detailing able to cut through it. And I already tried most of it, from Optimum HDR to Modesta M5 Flame. Anyone who use it should be a higly trained professional, and remember not even nitrile gloves able to withstand it.

[@alexjensen990]

@@arapaimagold8088 let me think about it a little and reply once I come up with an idea. Using HF for car detailing seems... Well... Just not worth it. That being said, there has to be a solution (pun intended 😁) to this problem. One that doesn't require you to handle an acid that eats the calcium from your bones when soaked in through your skin. Okay, so what minerals and metals are giving you problems. The more exact you are the better. Also, how do you keep it from eating the aluminum and/or whatever other metal it's being sprayed on? How are you neutralizing it?

[@pedenmk]

Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate the differences between the two products.......

[@CJBarbour]

Nice video, a very interesting discussion. I would love to know which companies offer a pro grade product direct to the enthusiast. As you said with so many companies offering a version of ceramic and or graphene coating it’s hard to decide which one is best in the end. And in terms of variations which companies offer a full strength product, not a lesser product then what they offer to detailer shops.

[@trentsdetails3589]

CSL + EXO is where it's at. I think of CSL great for durability with EXO boosting the water behavior.

[@bbdetailing9123]

Thank you for this VERY thorough review, research, and testing. GREAT stuff. And I agree, it's best to test products ourselves. I try and do so myself, as my environment (Southern California) is much different than yours, or others out there testing products. Thanks Jason

[@MikeGDetailing]

And here I am still waiting for my ethos test bottle 😂. Sorry I couldn’t resist. Seeing Jim come in was cool.

[@bbdetailing9123]

@@MikeGDetailing haha. Don't wait. I got some other coatings we can try out.

[@verdantacres4460]

Awesome video great to hear from both Ethos and Dr Beasley.

[@haidenmorgan]

Awesome content! Keep these long in depth boys coming and keep I interviewing supplier experts!

[@moschef9089]

He said that the Kevlar reference wasn't put there to mislead. But that's precisely the reason it was used, to plant that seed.

[@andrenj1970]

Would be nice to see Adam’s graphene coating tested. I used it on my cars recently and love it but the time will show more. Also I used avalonking ceramic coating on my tv, monitors etc, great results. Now I will compare these two side by side on my spare car door.

[@MoistShot]

I tried Crystal Serum Light and Avalonking Armor Shield both, and the durability from Armor Shield seems better to me. The car with Crystal Serum Light on it is starting to slowly fade, but not the Armor Shield IX car. Let me know your results

[@andrenj1970]

Avalonking has a great reputation and so far my coated tv, monitors and few other items look amazing after 2 months so far. I will have to test it on car paint next to Adam’s graphene coating as I mentioned before, long term.

[@virtusgtmt]

been 2 years now and whats ur opinion on graphene coating long term?

[@andrenj1970]

@@virtusgtmt The graphene coating seems stronger on our half license plate cover compared to the other half with ceramic coating. Its a real life test, also on one of my cars being outside all year round: There are water spots still, little hard to remove. Overall I’m happier than waxing the cars. Paint still needs protection and care no matter what coating we use, no magic bullet;)

[@richardpowell723]

Thanks Jason. A perfect insight and a well made production.

[@AndreasSchwarzinger]

Thank you so much for this video! It is so necessary, especially what Pan the Organizer put out in his review about 303‘s graphene product, to educate consumers about what graphene is, where it comes from, how it is (and isn‘t) incorporated into derailing products and what it can and can‘t do. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

[@Salvaba]

I’m a student taking biomedicine and I love this. I would love to chat with tim about the chemistry of this. If Jim sees this, can he answer some of my questions on the chemistry of this? So with a polysilizane for traditional theromosetting, the aging process after it starts to adhere is due to ammonia reacting, creating R3si-NH2 (R being something that IDK because I’m not too sure on what can form the best adhesion). Is that what is used in ceramics as well? Because I would assume it would require ammonia in it which isn’t that present the smell of some ceramics. Is inorganic silizane ( H2Si-NH) a useful compound? I hypothesize this is not a strong enough compound because upon contact with water, the water will try to stick to the h2SI due to cohesion (the oxygen atom being attracted to the negatively charged SI, but also the H). I’d really like to speak to Jim and get to know different properties of chemical compounds with different structures, differing functional groups and the effects in a compound in the real world. For now I’m just learning the basics, but I sure would love to learn about it. I think it’s really cool

[@absolutewisdom77]

Damn bro you are invested lol Impressive nonetheless.

[@petef717]

What a great informative video. Great content, thanks for doing this 👍

[@antonioartis6778]

One of my new favorite Detailing videos. Full of knowledge and passion. I love science too! Thanks so much! From Dream Auto Detailing and Services LLC in Columbia md

[@dougrobinson8602]

That was an interesting comparison. My takeaway is that both seem to be good options. I'd need a couple years of actual use and exposure to the harsh conditions we endure here in northern Illinois to decide which is better. Maybe time will tell. When ceramic coatings first came out, the claims were overblown in my opinion. Ceramics are great, and I've had good luck with the one I chose, but you can't just apply a ceramic and expect it to hold up. Booster products help maintain water beading or sheeting properties. After two years of road salt, semi frequent washing, various bird bombs, and brake dust, it's time for a paint correction and re-coating. While Jason may have been bummed that both coatings polished off quite easily in the bonus footage, I'd consider that a plus. I'd hate to have to be too aggressive with compounds just to remove a previous coating. Gentlest test spot that produces the desired result wins.

[@RWallyb]

I work for Artdeshine who manufacture SPS Graphene and Artdeshine Nano Graphene Coating. Many levels of this are true, but there are many generalisations as well and it isn't fair to speak of the entire industry when we are looking a a few manufacturers. 100% graphene is a buzz word and is being used by companies to generate hype around their new products and some of these products offer minimal benefits over traditional SIO2 coatings, but it's not fair to the rest of the industry who actually have good products with graphene that DO provide real benefits to customers. If people want to talk chemistry that's great and offers a level of insight, but EVERYONE remember the best test you'll ever see is side by side testing of coatings, and from that we've deduced that our coating outperforms major brand ceramic coatings. So take everything you see with a grain of salt, just because on chemist or a few groups don't know how to work with graphene doesn't mean the entire sector are in the same ball game.

[@pgill2682]

Boom! I agree.

[@jimrogiokos9690]

Just finished in mid September applying Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light and topped it with C2v3 not EXO . I know living in Toronto Canada that this is at best a 2 year real world coating . I will be maintaining the coating with toppers and proper washing techniques but at the 2 year mark , September 2022 i will have to decide between ARTDESHINE METAL OXIDE , ADAMS GRAPHENE COATING, OR OWNERS PRIDE CERAMIC COATING.

[@premiumxstudio]

Great work! Only time will tell... maintenance will also be a factor to take in to consideration

[@resQ-av8r]

Fantastic video. Thanks. I'm a DiY detailer just taking care of my dozen or so vehicles but since 2000 my company in Poland has been engaged in nano science primarily conductive materials for microelectronics (silver, copper, gold, Ti, etc.) and you caught my eye with the graphene (which was super over hyped in conductive materials ... conducts really well in 1 axis and absolutely dead in the other so molecular alignment was essential and expensive since the material doesn't auto assimilate bonds). You've got to understand that nanometer is just "scale" which is equal to 1000 microns ... the material Si, Ti, graphene, ceramics, etc can be any size from gobs measure in millimeters to microscopic/atomic sized particles measured in nanometers.

[@jamesfink680]

I wanted to see him put some Blue Dawn dish detergent on that hood for a durability test.

[@johnwatson8192]

Thanks for a great video, I particularly liked Jim from Dr Beazley, he was honest, coherent and owned up to his own limitations; yes he could have been clearer on the strength of graphene vs steel but why exactly do you need something that is stronger than steel, wear resistance, corrosion resistance or something else? I got very nervous when you started with the Hydrochloric acid, bare arms and shorts for heavens sake! Spraying all sorts of chemicals with no mask on surely can't be the best thing for your health.

[@--JYM-Rescuing-SS-Minnow]

It's great 2 see this man running it down!! rock-on bruh....🍒

[@tanduay64]

Thanks so much for shedding some light on this....great video.

[@neildorrity9507]

Good video Jason, but i really do think you need to try Artdeshine Graphene Coating, very viscous and a very good coating indeed

[@jjbhwajabuseva1909]

I'm all Graphene Coating in the United States currently is coming from the same manufacturer and has been relabeled

[@natesales5880]

Well not sure what happened in your test. My wife drives a black dodge charger had been doing ceramic coating. Had water spot problems but with the ceramic but since i switched to graphene her car doesn't seem as hot and water spotting has been night and day. So idk what happened maybe you got a bad batch from ethos. I used adams graphene coating so idk if they are that much different.

[@connermurray1633]

I love KZbin, you can learn so much for free. Thanks for video I had not heard of graphene coating until recently. Always looking to sharpen my skills, thanks for sharing!

[@zaydabbas1609]

Not a regular on your videos at all (yet!), but damn this level of effort and detail is sick! You basically made a documentary and I actually learned something!

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Correction 6:24 Ethos recommends waiting 1 hour before applying second layer

[@Jayg80]

Ethos Car Care does this mean it was an unfair test of the product?

[@ChicagoAutoPros]

Jay G not at all, it just means it’s one layer vs one layer.

[@Jayg80]

Chicago Auto Pros I totally agree but the test was manufacturer recommendation, which is two for Ethos

[@MatheusSantos-wn9io]

@@ChicagoAutoPros who take the best ?

[@satulytman]

If graphene exhibits certain magical properties only when it is one atom thick, why would anyone recommend putting on 2 applications?

[@TC-vx9yv]

Interesting video. Btw, Graphene is going to be massive in battery technology. Lighter, lower temps and twice the capacity for the same size battery

[@jdisdetermined]

👆 This! 👆 Just its ability to disperse heat alone is incredibly promising. Not only a lighter more powerful battery, but a safer and more durable battery that can be pushed much harder with a much longer life cycle and greatly reduced charge times. It has the potential to finally bridge that practical performance gap that still exists between gas and electric and corded and cordless tools.

[@Clynikal]

Meh I’ve had many graphene lithium polymer batteries…nothing to write home about.

[@geraldnau425]

This was phenomenal. Wish I still lived in Chicago to have you work on my vehicles. Would the exo topper on the Crystal help it last longer since that is part of it or no?

[@LeeMacfarlane]

first time I have come across you videos and WOW I'm sold I'm subscribing.

[@MrCanadiandad]

Would be nice to see a comparison of the Ethos Graphene Coating and the Adams Polishes Graphene Coating.

[@tomasaro4910]

I would also add Artdeshine (SPS) Graphene Nano