DIY BLACKLIGHT FOG? Can I make it a reality? WIN or Fail?|Cobwebs And Candlesticks

Ok Haunt Fam, this DIY is something I've wanted to try for a few years now. Why isn't thier blacklight fog in the stores? Why isn't it a " thing" ? Inquiring minds want to know!!! I'm inquiring!!
Is it possible? Will it destroy my fog machine? Will it actually be uv reactive? If it does work Will it stain everything it touches?
I'm putting it all on the line cause I gotta know! Win or fail you will see my thoughts and process and hopefully take away something for your haunt. Until we meet again.....keep it evil!
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[@steeloscursehauntedhouse47]

"let's go for broke" Keith's famous last words

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Oh yeah, fock that machine, we're doing it!

[@ikecamacho3892]

The pump went out. Its Chinese and you toss it on the roof. Hilarious Cobs!!!

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I actually tried replacing the pump but it wouldn't work so I had to send It back. Turns out it's some kind of espresso machine pump!

[@chungafea1879]

Bummer! It’s a great concept. Too bad it didn’t work. I totally lost it when you chunked that machine on your roof. Too funny. And I think you might want to start a neighborhood watch. There’s some seedy looking dude creepin around. Lol

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I took a shot but im not deterred. It might choke out a few machines and fill up the roof but I really want safe blacklight fog. I'll just turn the hose on that d bag next time I see him perpetrating up in my yard.

[@devilman2465]

I belong to a haunters club here in Michigan and the founder is a chemistry professor and he says that dyes are too heavy to be suspended in the fog.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I wouldn't doubt that. The amount of concentrate I would have to add probably wouldn't vaporize due to density. I'll have to try something else.

[@Great_White_Shork]

I dig the shirts, dude. Ookla the Mok rules. And Thandarr too, I guess.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I've loved Ookla since I was a wee lad. I always loved how when Thundaar and the Sorcerer rode around stuff on horseback Ookla just rode through it! Hahaha. Classic. The other two had a sun sword and spells but Ookla would just throw a car at the bad guy! Such a great toon!

[@berlinadavis7928]

Awesome excited to see

[@raymitchell9736]

Blacklight Fog... Interesting concept, perhaps it requires a higher concentration but then at some point that might not be good to breathe? But I like the experimentation aspect of it as you know I like to do things like this. But this gave me an idea: What if instead you used a colored lights... for example, say you choose green, and you put them behind the tombstones, shine them upwards into the sky so it is not directed at anything except the sky, and they aren't super bright, you don't want to give it away that they are there... But when the fog is introduced it will scatter the light causing the fog to glow... now here's the effect part, if this can be done, create a short controlled burst... the idea is to make it look like a spirit/ghost that floats across the graveyard? Kind of like a slimer (if it's green) Wouldn't that be a cool effect!?!?

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I hear ya. At that point using lights to " light" the fog would be basically an uncontained laser swamp. The burst Idea is great though! To much additive might not vaporize and clog my heating element. If it did go through there is always the thought of breathing the vapors which is why I want to do it outside. They add scents to fog, why can't I have blacklight fog? Lol. Im not deterred. I know the machine will vaporize distilled water,vinegar and fog juice so i need a medium soluble and light enough to vaporize but yet dense enough to glow, lol. I think Im asking for too much,lol.

[@raymitchell9736]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks Well, it would be a uncontained laser swap if you have the fog constantly blowing in... but it would be basically the same thing if you had a blacklight fog and it was glowing. It's one thing to make the fog glow, but then figuring out an effect to use it with. If you had one fog machine that low hanging ground fog that could be in the graveyard all the time, then have second machine do the spirit effect higher up with "normal fog". Well, I'm not sure if that's something that can be done... I'm just brainstorming...

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

They do make specifically low lying fog machines which the flood lights could make glow but if I could blow fog across the top of the low lying fog to blend them maybe? I'd have to start playing around with it at night and see what I can come up with. I'm gonna have to get a second fogger anyways cause you can't have just one. I might grab a low lying machine and play with layers

[@raymitchell9736]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks Well I made 3 or more DIY low hanging foggers and even got 1 store bought one... they all sucked... But last year I got the design from someone on YT and made my own low hanging fog machine with a 10 or 12 head pond mister and I got the floater to simplify the design so you don't need a pump and other stuff. Anyway That all floats in water that's in a very air-tight tote fog goes in and takes on all that mist... then a low-speed fan sucks it out and distributes it through a long slotted 3" drainage pipe. I got amazing low lying fog.

[@knowyourjoe8826]

So looking forward to this !!! You have no idea, but then again, maybe you do !😃

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Stay tuned!! We will find out tomorrow!

[@apriljohnson8650]

Can you not leap further than that🤣 by the way I just replaced that roof 4 years ago 🤔 SAVAGE!!!

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

No I can't leap further than that, Im old and frah-gee-lay!

[@knowyourjoe8826]

I’mmmm waaaaitning…… lol. T minus 20 minutes….. not gonna miss this one!

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Coming soon to a screen near you!

[@genesanford9412]

...Better than my "look at it glow " gig on my channel...

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I'm a sucker for glow in the dark and blacklight stuff! I think cause I was born in the seventies when that stuff was at its zenith. It just never gets old to me, ever,hahaha. Post your vids on C&C on Fb Gene!

[@louisracick2406]

Solid effort

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Thank you Lou! I had to try.

[@apriljohnson8650]

Ohhhhhhhh your sneaky!!

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Not really, your just not watching,lol.

[@steeloscursehauntedhouse47]

The moment we've all been waiting for

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I'm still working on it! Lol

[@costumesforalloccasions]

Can you make giant tarantula out of pool noodles, Kieth

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I could but it's been done. I'm actually gathering stuff for a spider build for my yard. I think I have a pretty cool spin on one.

[@mljezierski]

Good effort. Too bad it didn't work, that would have taken using fog machine special effects to a whole new level. I wonder if you made your own fog juice and add tonic water to it since it naturally glows in black light or, wonder if you let a highlighter soak in fog juice if that would make a difference?

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Lol, I have highlighters in fog juice, hahahaha. That's my next try just to see what happens. I know if any additive doesn't vaporize it will collect in the heater and clog the machine. I'm gonna keep working at it.

[@normanvincent1217]

Not a fail its a starting point.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

It's definitely back to the drawing board!

[@knowyourjoe8826]

I whole heartedly agree. I am glad he did this and shared the info. Now I don’t have to try this method.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Save yourselves,lol!

[@dryrotdryrot9908]

The quinine in tonic water will fluoresce in UV light. No idea if it will come out in the mist. IDK what this will do to you fogger.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Not sure. Anything not vaporized will end up staying in my heating unit probably clogging it lol.

[@dryrotdryrot9908]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks yes, that's what I'd imagine. Tonic water still might work. The trick would be to find something that will fluoresce AND will be present in the fog. Something non-toxic would be nice. :-) Using an ultrasonic mister might help? If you run fog juice through the fogger and run that fog through a box of mist made by an ultrasonic mister, you get heavy mist. I know this works. Now, if the mister was in unsweetened tonic water, might enough quinine cling to the water molecules to react in UV light? IDK, but might be worth a shot, AND won't ruin the fogger.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I totally get your idea. It's usually 50 degrees here for Halloween so I never use a chiller and misters will vaporize blacklight ink so your not hurting your machine with an additive. I'm gonna play around with a few more things to see if I get any closer.

[@13ghosts54]

Haha! Yeah, I see what you did there. You told your wife that you were going to do a video to see if you can create glow in the dark fog, but your “old” fog machine broke and have to buy a new one…………. I gotcha…….(wink, wink.😉😉)

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Lol, I was all set to go at night and my original machine wouldn't put out fog. I pulled it apart and tore the pump apart and cleaned it and still nothing. I bought a similar pump on Amazon that wouldn't work. I could not find the exact pump even with the part number on it! Oh well, the new Chauvet machine works great!

[@raymitchell9736]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks Could have been the thermal cutoff switch not the pump... maybe ping me on FB for "tech support" I've fixed these machines before... Hope that homeless dude didn't bang it up too badly with that hammer LOL. A Hurricane Foggers is better anywho...

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

I pulled the pump apart and soaked and cleaned it but it was still d.o.a. if I squeezed fog juice through a syringe into the feed tube and squeezed it past the pump the machine smoked. It was 5 years old too. I did order a similar pump from Amazon but it was to big. Turns out they use espresso machine pumps,lol. I even had a part number on the original pump and couldn't find a new one! Then the magic word popped into my head....Chauvet!! And they are rebuildable!!

[@raymitchell9736]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks I understand, I had the same trouble with a fogger... the vapor chamber worked, but the pump died... it was too close to Halloween to F* with... so I got a Chauvet Hurricane 1400, my trusty go-to, Except there's always a false empty tank glitch I have to deal with every year. But essentially I ended up doing the same thing you did. Honestly though, I think I could fix it, not that many parts to go wrong. Anyway, I gave that broken piece of *$#% to a neighbor that likes to fix things. And in the end I still have 2 working foggers. Happy Haunting Bwahahaha

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

So far the Chauvet is awesome even though I put additives in the machine out of the box,lol. Nothing like a harsh break in. It has good reviews and is rebuildable so I'm hoping to get a bunch of years out out if while I add secondary machines. If they don't make the cut they are ending up on the roof!

[@colinbarnes705]

I wonder if this could work with an ultrasonic fog machine instead of the heat-based machine

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

It's possible but I think the concentration of dye would need to be higher since your technicaly blowing up the fog versus vaporizing it, lol.

[@SaraJames-zr8iy]

OKAY KZbinS

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Hell yeah!

[@user-gv6xu9wi7k]

did you try highlighter juice?

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

In the past yep!

[@user-gv6xu9wi7k]

I ordered a bubble fogger, going to try regular fog juice, highlighter in bubble mix with a uv light. Hopefully I can get glowing fog bubbles for a halloween cauldron@@CobwebsandCandlesticks

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

@@user-gv6xu9wi7k I sooooo want a Froggys foble machine!!! They don't shoot straight up though, they tray is at a 45 degree angle so the bubbles won't go straight up if I put it in my cauldron. I'll probably have to build a cauldron around it.

[@apriljohnson8650]

9:21

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Im very spry for an old guy!

[@FatalKeystroke]

I feel like this encourages people to give trick or treaters fatal respiratory failure...

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

Nope, nothing poisonous is dispersed through the machine. I think the reason there's not colored fog is because of possible staining. There has to be something that works.

[@FatalKeystroke]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks Respectfully, are you a chemist? Because whatever chemicals make up those pigments, gets flash boiled, which changes their properties in some way that would require chemical/medical analysis to ensure breathing the resulting compounds as a vapor is safe. And the two things you never mess with are people's kids and people's money. Parents get mad sometimes simply that you're running a fog machine because chemicals (this is a world where they don't even want you to inject their children with vaccines sometimes), then you're adding things to it that are going through a secondary chemical process before inhalation. The idea is cool, but the risks are severe enough to practice extreme caution and honestly just not do it unless you know the full chemical process and its medical implications. People have suggested for years to try things like highlighter ink (very toxic), tonic water or pure quinine (safe but toxic going through a fog machines heating process), and miscellaneous UV reactive inks that all ultimately have gotten the same result. If there was a safe way to do it, it would be all over the market because it's cool, but people fall back on just using creative lighting schemes because even the big companies producing commercial fluid with professional chemists and large resource pools don't really have any commercially viable options besides a few and they need special machines usually, have limitations on use, or just don't work very well.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

@@FatalKeystroke nope, not a chemist at all. I do read MSDS sheets though although that doesn't mean somethings non toxic. I've seen the tonic water and highlighter approach but wanted to find a different way by using uv alcohol inks in the fog juice which is glycerine. I always try to do something different. I don't want to do the same old stale status quo. I feel like nothing will advance. I don't mind spending my own money to do that. If it actually worked then I could have looked into the binding agents and started shaking trees to see if I had a legit product before pumping it onto trick or treaters. I run regular fog almost every year depending on weather. I don't feel I'm hurting the kiddos as they walk up the driveway through some fog otherwise they outlaw fog machines. Im " that" house in my subdivision for Halloween so I'm always trying to be extra and up the ante every year for the kids if I can but never at their detriment. There's probably more chemicals in food and milk and clothing than than produce on Halloween night. Not that that's an excuse being the lesser of 2 evils. I understand your angle. I'd rather push the envelope then turn my lights out and disappoint my trick or treaters who grew up coming to my house. I want to build the next generation of Haunters. I understand your concern though and I'm glad you were open about and voiced it openly.

[@FatalKeystroke]

@@CobwebsandCandlesticks I feel you, I'm "that" house too, likewise been trying to find a way to do this and lighting is the only comfortably safe option I've found (lay a grid of string lights beneath fog chiller fog best I've managed, works great visually but not ideal), just be careful, cuz I messed myself up for a few days just through unresearched experimentation and... well, everyone has a lawyer now. My personal effects were from UV inks too, not the exact same ones as you though.

[@CobwebsandCandlesticks]

@FatalKeystroke ohhhh that's cool!! My kiddos cone back every year. I really want to try a laser swamp in my front yard since I have a slope..I think I can contain the low lying fog with thick landscape fabric and put lasers on posts. It's another thing I want to do to keep the kids guessing.