DIY High Performance Smoke Device

Instructions for making a high performance canister-style smoke device that dumps white smoke for 3 1/2 minutes. Be advised there are better formulas throughout my channel. Especially TPA formulas.
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White smoke is ideal for concealment because it reflects the most visible light.
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Composition Ratio:
6 parts Potassium Nitrate
4 parts Powdered Sugar
3 parts mineral oil
#diy#airsoft #paintball #smokebombs #smokegrenade #fireworks #homemade #survival

[@JuggernautJo]

Would love to see an IR Thermal Blocking smoke grenade

[@Anonymous8317]

Good luck😅

[@ryanmckeever7530]

Videos like this is why i used to come to KZbin in the first place.

[@beargillium2369]

Unfortunately now it's full of garbage rules, not a free platform for freedom of information anymore .

[@PROFESSIONALCRASHOUT]

Me too. It’s a shame they censor a lot of this stuff.

[@bigpeepeeboiz2801]

Are there platforms that are just for this stuff like survival outdoor tactical guns and hunting stuff like KZbin? Surely someone’s tried making guntube already

[@BuckF0eJiden]

Try adding a little sulfur to your mix. You're essentially making black powder with sugar instead of charcoal, but the chemistry is the same. Sulfur lowers the ignition point, and increases your burn rate, up to a certain point. You can get sulfur at any store like Lowe's in lawn & garden.

[@jtcustomknives]

Sulphur would create a faster burning smoke device and he wants a slower device.

[@BuckF0eJiden]

@@jtcustomknives he was wanting more of an initial smoke plume. Increasing the burn rate is the best way to do that. 🤷‍♂️

[@jtcustomknives]

@@BuckF0eJiden that would be from a faster ignition not faster burn rate. This coukd be achieved by creating a center hallow core and adding a priming mixture into this section so it lights it much faster.

[@desmondblack5339]

Amazon sells 99.8% pure sulfur for chemistry.

[@InventionIncarnate]

@@jtcustomknives word. My issue was the oil permeation into the primer comp, initially I used 50/50 potassium nitrate sucrose as a primer in center, however, it didn’t store well. It’s already burning hot enough, I’d add magnesium bicarbonate before sulfur. I’m revamping mix using potassium chlorate for oxidizer

[@lukearts2954]

I really don't want to be the Safety Susan on the block, but I have some personal experience to share that you might want to consider. You often hear rotary tools and gloves don't go together. I learnt that the hard way in EXACTLY the same situation as you put yourself in for this video: using a disc on an angle grinder while holding the object you're grinding in your hand. And just like you, I used heavy duty leather gloves... The edge of the glove barely touched the disc, and it got pulled in, resulting in a deep gash in my finger. Just that fraction of a second was enough to cut the flesh down to the bone. "Luckily" it was the side of my thumb, right next to the fingernail, where no important muscles or tendons pass. And luckily my reflex pulled away in the right direction so that it didn't cut any deeper. There was also barely any blood because the speed burnt all the flesh and vessels shut. You can imagine that it could have very easily been a lot worse. So message to you, or to anyone who turns to KZbin videos to learn DIY practices: whenever working with rotary tools, use thin latex gloves, or no gloves at all. It's better to have a burn or a splinter or a dirty hand, than having only half a hand. Or like one of my best youth buddies always said: better having one bird in your hand, than no hand.

[@rohawaha]

I recently took the hand grinder safety course for a welding class , the photo's of grinder accidents at the end will set anyone straight. fingers cut off , wires from wire wheels buried in eyeballs . pieces of cut off wheels stuck in the forehead and eye. 6 inch long cuts to the bone of the arm . Your point is valid and well taken .

[@milesrost6674]

appreciate ya

[@BroncoBob3113]

👍👍 thanks

[@niccosaur7778]

As someone who uses a grinder every day for the last 20 years I would NEVER recommend NOT wearing leather gloves with any disk OTHER than a wire wheel DO NOT wear gloves with a wire wheel but be attentive but please please wear gloves for ALL other wheels

[@lukearts2954]

@@niccosaur7778 sorry to break it to you, but having 20 years of sheer luck does not exempt you from accidents. My accident was NOT a wire wheel. It was just a regular metal grinding disc. There's a fiber glass mesh in it to hold the abrasive and it must have been one of those poking out that pulled my glove in. My reason for wearing gloves was so that I wouldn't burn myself holding the item (which was stupid, because one should always just clamp it down and have both hands on the grinder, especially the high rpm grinder I was using - the gyroscopy on the thing is bananas), and perhaps I thought that I would be safer somehow. Give me the reasoning why you think you need leather gloves and what they are protecting against.

[@billypoe3703]

3 minutes can create a lot of hope.

[@reluctantlemming]

I subscribed when the vibrator came out. I'm all for finding alternate uses for common household tools!

[@josephwilliams1915]

Since we're all here for similar reasons. Just wanted to throw out that those paper match books you can get from the gas station can be turned into priming agent for reloading ammo Powderize all the sulfur match heads, and scrape off the red phos from the strip. Mix VERY carefully, and you can make around 50 primers. Not sure if the youtube video is up, but a guy reloaded some 9mm ammo and even used spent primers and loaded them up with the matchbook priming agent. Seemed like he was shooting normal ammo

[@stephensumpter5311]

It was an old The King of Random video but the original creator of that page died and the video seems gone now

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

Alternatively, you can use primers to activate smoke bombs. Better yet, get primer compound and use it to make a easy ignition system.

[@quijybojanklebits8750]

How's the watch list can I join?

[@Fordgroup00]

This would have been a hoot back when we played unsanctioned paintball games!

[@InventionIncarnate]

Exactly

[@tomtruesdale6901]

If your girl friend will not let you use her toy, use a detail sander without sandpaper on it to vibrate the can.

[@jec020468]

Would love to be a fly on the wall for that conversation, "Honey, an I borrow your vibratory? I'm about to shoot a video..."

[@InventionIncarnate]

Bahahah!

[@glbaker5595]

A couple of months ago when the Chinese were come to see how their boy was handling their country California the federal government said that smoke bombs were illegal or something like that I didn't hear the whole story I just heard a little bit of it but can anyone tell me what the real scoop is on. I would appreciate it and thank you for the update

[@MrFarmerfran00]

Thank you. Having a hard time figuring out how I was going to explain that purchase.

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@glbaker5595 they've always been restricted based on whether or not there was a delay mechanism. You could have grenade style smoke bombs as long as they started smoking as soon as the mechanism activated. I've not seen anything about the new version other than "smoke grenades a now illegal" There's no definition of what constitutes a smoke grenade and exactly where the line is now drawn. The strictest reading would outlaw even the classic match lit smoke bombs as the basest definition would be "hand throwable pyrotechnic or explosive devise" Personally I think they were just restating current law in such a manner as to make it sound more restrictive than it is for the benefit of foreign vistors

[@paramotorhead]

By far the best smoke grenade I’ve seen on KZbin, thanks!

[@InventionIncarnate]

Thank you too!

[@wijpke]

Smoke grenades are very underrated in terms of a gunfight to me it is the best way to disappear when you are pinned down under cover when people are shooting at you😊

[@joshp1486]

I'm not trying to get in your business and someone else may have already mentioned it but 10x powdered sugar has cornstarch in it to keep it from caking so grinding your own out of table sugar may change your burn for the better. Those fuses are on point though. Great video.

[@InventionIncarnate]

You’re right, 3% cornstarch! This device is child’s play compared to this one: TPA Smoke Grenades, Blows Commercial Out of the Water! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ3aomBmZtOajLs Also, if you subscribe, please take a screenshot because KZbin is unsubscribing my subs. I’ve had like 20 people tell me. Yt customer service is just gaslighting me asking for screenshots from subs acting like they don’t do it all the time

[@JamStph]

Zahn cup is the word you were looking for, for testing viscosity. Great video.

[@matthewcorrea4278]

This is the best video on the internet

[@visamedic]

I like that’s there’s a gas can within a few feet of where youre testing it. Really cool deal. I’ve messed with smoke grenades for years. Love having a huge area of smoke when you set off those strobe type fireworks. This is by far the coolest video I’ve seen. Gonna have to try and make a few for the 4th. 😁👍

[@InventionIncarnate]

I know, the gas can is real bad. I thought about lying to everyone and saying it was full of water and it was my 🧯. But no, I was really that unaware😵‍💫

[@orionphoenix8918]

😂 insert Ralph Wiggum voice (oh no im in danger) 😂😂​@InventionIncarnate

[@wayne-oo]

I wonder what adding a chunk of black rubber to it will do ?

[@bluewinterwolf]

You can get individual stretchy pouches that conform to different grenade sizes, same as you used to get with universal phone pouches back in the day, can't remember the name for the stretchy part but rubber string is used. Also, if your going to this much effort to make HMSG's for say Airsoft/Paintball, (considering how expensive that can be), you might as well pay someone with a sewing machine to make your pouches for you and / or a pouch bag speciffically for the HMSG's. Alternatively, you could get them to make a HMSG belt like you would have for shotgun carts but instead be big enough for HMSG's and can also add in the feature of having the belt hold removable pouches if you wanted to move them to a Molle vest or just not carry as many and not carry the belt. If you know someone with a sewing machine, all you would really need to pa for is material which they could most likely get cheap for you and then just give em a bit extra money for their time. Edit: Just remember, not all Airsoft/Paintball arenas allow HMSG's or Smoke Grenades in general due to insurance or safety policy or both so always check with the event organiser before going or before taking your SG's on the field. (HMSG = Home Made Smoke Grenades)

[@InventionIncarnate]

Most places don’t allow them anymore

[@abraxas9340]

Just to let you know, I've heard that superglue applied onto cotton can supposedly cause fire. I've put super glue on cotton before myself and it began to produce smoke. I don't know why it does that, but I've seen enough that it'd make me a little apprehensive when doing it with something like that in my hands. Otherwise, this is a great video and would love to see more of your designs

[@Jack-Tactical]

Superglue creates heat when curing and thinner superglued create more heat. Cotton allows the glue to wick out and cure even faster. Cotton also has a relatively low ignition point. That said, I’ve never actually seen it start a fire. Using anything besides “extra thin” should prevent it from happening, and for his purposes medium probably works better anyways.

[@Anonymous8317]

Activator helps too

[@vohawk]

When grinding explosive/volatile/flammable materials, often just keeping it damp with water will prevent ignition. The result can then simply be set out to dry afterward.

[@topfeedcoco]

Tech Ingredients is a rad channel, God bless the both of ya.

[@BuckF0eJiden]

Also, molding a hole down the center of your fuel will increase your burn rate too. You'll want just the tip of your igniter to touch your fuel. Both that, and adding sulfur should increase your initial smoke volume and decrease the overall burn time.

[@CallMeUbba]

Just the tip and only for a minute. Got it 👍

[@nicholashodges201]

If you want to *really* increase the burn rate mold you smoke mix into several hollow rods. I do this by mixing small amounts and putting it on wires to harden.

[@OFFCODEV2]

Shutup an make your video coach quarterback

[@ArcaneTinker]

What if you stabbed about 6 generic crayons into the compound like birthday candles before pouring the top layer of plaster? You can either pull them out or maybe they would just burn out and contribute to the overall smoke output as well as blocking the mineral oil from pooling?

[@luckyomen]

The issue is the excess heat can touch it off and make it into something more dangerous than a smoke generator. not intended. Smoke generators that you can use in most places without risk seems to be the goal. Even this safer version probably shouldn't be used inside or in dry weather. a forest fire will definitely ruin airsoft fun.

[@cyberbeehive2224]

Ordered the pull string kit, the man said he would deliver and he did! This kit is legit and pretty awesome. Be safe and responsible.

[@ljaysperspective1775]

This type of science project would definitely have contributed to keeping me in school 😂😂😂 fun to watch, awesome video thx for sharing 👍

[@visamedic]

It would have definitely got me kicked out sooner 😂😅🤣🥲🥹

[@ljaysperspective1775]

@visamedic 🤣🤣🤣 Yeah, I can see all kinds of hell taking place.

[@visamedic]

@@ljaysperspective1775 Yeah. Let’s just say I didn’t graduate in the conventional sense. 😂😅🤣

[@ljaysperspective1775]

@@visamedic No kidding 🤣👍

[@101stgrunt6]

You Sir are an American patriot! Thank you for doing all the leg work and experimenting. I laughed when you said "i did this -and it exploded, then i did that - and it exploded"

[@CaptainRon1913]

Made a huge one with my son. Lit it off in our back yard of the neighborhood. A massive amount of smoke bellowing up out of the neighborhood. It's a wonder nobody called the FD

[@theRPGmaster]

You sound like an awesome dad.

[@dickdastardly5534]

I bet you were popular lol 😂

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

Find some dye next time. Always best not to attract the FD.

[@RemoteAntidote]

Did you need to use an equally as big vibrator to make it?

[@glennturner4807]

Your vibe reminds me of doing Geoteck Slope Indication testing on roads. We used to tape vibrating Love Eggs to the gauges so their needles wouldn't stick and give false readings...LOL

[@Subgunman]

Get yourself some disposable pastry bags. You can use one to fill the mixture into the can and another bag to add the final topping of plaster.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Amen to that!

[@brarrab4876]

idk much about smokes but when you do the baffles gluing some wax paper over it so they have a better shelf life unless it makes it go into grenade mode

[@phillip6083]

Here's a fun upgrade. Use nilereds method of extracting capsaicin from peppers, add the concentrated oil to your smoke bombs... I'm planning to grow reapers this spring..

[@neilhightower2270]

I tried something similar, with store bought extract and basically had no effect.

[@phillip6083]

@@neilhightower2270 extract capsaicin from peppers. It vaporizes when heated.

[@SacredHeart0520]

Doesn't heat destroy the capsaicin

[@phillip6083]

@@SacredHeart0520 have you ever fried peppers?

[@neilhightower2270]

@phillip6083 thats not the same level of heat this is throwing out. But I tried and it didn't work.

[@viewatyourownrisk]

Thanks for the video. And a big shout out to Tech Ingredients. That guy is awesome I wonder what the difference between the wax and the mineral oil is. I have used the wax version with powdered ingredients and didn't experience any of the issues you described. I did add about 10% wax by weight, in order to slow down the reaction and it produced a TON of thick white smoke.

[@lukearts2954]

I think using oil instead of parafin makes it easier to properly mix it beforehand, keeping the whole thing more homogenous during the burn. And if you have to heat up the parafin for the initial mix, I'd say I don't like heating things up that are intended to make a self-sustaining burn, even if it's at a much lower temperature than the ignition temperature. If you want to see how crazy parafin can behave, make a pyramid of lit tea lights 3 levels high (so 10 tea lights in total) in the middle of a large fire resistant surface, perhaps for demonstration, put a wooden board under the tealights. Sit back and enjoy the show. It'll start slow, but give it a few minutes.

[@InventionIncarnate]

@@lukearts2954 I’m doing that, it sounds awesome!

[@InventionIncarnate]

I wonder if I kept the heat on the melted paraffin too long. I think if I shut off the heat, then added powdered ingredients to cool the wax, it may work better.

[@viewatyourownrisk]

@@InventionIncarnate The way that I did it, for what it's worth, was to melt the wax at a low temperature and then slow stir in the ingredients. Which were already throughly blended. Once it was all mixed I'd stir for a minute or two longer and then put the mix in the container. Once in the container, stir every once in a while which will prevent the solids from sinking to the bottom. Once the consistency is like glue paste, a 1/2" dowel was inserted in the center. After solidification was complete the top was covered in armstrong's putty and when that was mostly set the dowel removed. The whole in the middle was filled with a 50/50 mix of powdered sugar and kno3 with a fuse. The top was sealed with a melted together 50/50 mix. an older experiment, but pretty consistent with the results of the final product. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWKuXo1_lN19idE

[@InventionIncarnate]

@@viewatyourownrisk dude! That was awesome!!! At around 1:47 your device started pulsing, that’s the inconsistency I’m referring too. However, I think that I’d trade that for the shelf life and durability offered by paraffin. I had a number of paraffin smokes burn only partially. What did you use as your potassium nitrate source and powdered sugar or granulated?

[@ghostedyoutuber263]

I like the fact that it is NOT spewing sparks. GJ!

[@gaiusoctavian8278]

It would not supposed to, he made a smoke grenade not a thermite incendiary device which you could do by adding magnesium or shaved aluminum.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Thank you

[@ivymcgrowgreen1079]

I have to confirm, I purchased the kit from website and received a confirmation same day, and the product a few days later!! Online store is legit! Question- I have a dew small pencil size tube's with other tube's within them... what might that be for, sir?..for primers? There are 10 of them. I bet they ate featured in an updated video that I haven't seen yet

[@InventionIncarnate]

@@ivymcgrowgreen1079 thank you. The tubes are there if you need them for whatever reason. I use them all the time and they’ll likely be useful once you start making different types of igniters. They are in the kit instructions that I should have printed out and put in the kit. Here’s a link to the PDF in the case that I didn’t include instructions, Password is “chuckinclouds” : img1.wsimg.com/blobby/go/8b39f855-56fa-4c90-bc71-8fdba34c64ef/downloads/Pull%20Igniter%20Instructions%20(Locked).pdf?ver=1721337875153 This video was the first one that KZbin algorithm promoted and it’s there are many newer and much better videos. Check channel because there’s a lot of ways to use this kit Also, video that include tube-style ignitions will be most of the pull-string/pull ring igniter videos. Check channel bc there’s a bunch. Feel free to ask any questions in this thread

[@ivymcgrowgreen1079]

@InventionIncarnate I thought they were for pull string igniter. I plan on using for that anyway even if that wasn't the thought behind it haha I definitely plan on spreading the news of my order on other videos but this on just popped up in my feed first today. I'll be making pull string igniters first off and the see where it goes from there. I am interested in timed fuses (ordered) and working that in. I love your channel! Good stuff! You did include instructions but tube's were not on the paper. I looked quickly haha all good!

[@Mattys556]

Awesome video! Getting all the materials to make my first one. Looking forward to the next video

[@InventionIncarnate]

Uploading now good sir

[@Mattys556]

@@InventionIncarnate sweeet!

[@undercoverfarts9741]

@@Mattys556 Don't forget the vibrator

[@willzone0295]

Don't forget the viberator

[@julienciampanelli3149]

At work they changed brand of mineral oil a while ago and the new drums of oil came with the label "smoke oil" cause it is actually the same as the oil used for airplanes to make the smoke trails. Maybe you should look into that kind of mineral oil?

[@phillip6083]

A few tips for more smoke faster... Surface area. Your granulated mix detonated because there was... 1 too much surface area. 2 to robust a reaction. You can either add an inert compound(sand) to slow the reaction down or use a compound that burns slower and cooler. And instead of granules try casting a hollow compound.this can greatly increase surface area. Also.... Add some paraffin, just enough to make the mix solid at room temp. And your whole mix may mold better warmed up.try putting it in a ziploc and warming in hot water.

[@convictednotconvinced]

I experimented with the Tech Ingredients formulation with 2 observations: burn rates fluctuated despite thorough mixing and grinding, and they all produced a fuckton of smoke. Controlling heat and back pressure could get tricky with some of the designs chuffing like a rocket engine. I was also able to to use as much as 14 parts wax.

[@InventionIncarnate]

I noticed that my paraffin blends performed better in narrower vessels. Like coors light screw-top aluminum cans.

[@jamesgreen2]

I think you did an awesome job and well explained.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Thank you!

[@MickeyMetalmjl]

would you consider using a sieve or tea strainer to mix the sugar and potassium nitrate. it does great to mix powders well.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Good idea, screening is much better than shaking around in a bag like a dumbass

[@Thebloodylies]

Nice video man, I've subscribed specifically because you not only explained the whole process, but actually took steps for safety and fire prevention! That's something I feel is overlooked far too often. I hope to see more!

[@DDowling06]

Also, cricket vinyl cut circles work well for sealing the vent ports. Cut, sticks on and then burns off quickly when initiated.

[@karnesmotorsports]

You can use RIT dye for different colors. Made some to smoke out ground hogs years ago. Caramelized the sugar and stump remover. This method looks easier.

[@chthulu27]

I'm not sure if there was too much wind in the area where you tested your smoke grenade, but it seems likeit would be more suitable as a signal device than for the purposes of providing cover/concealment.

[@ezrabraman6437]

It would be a bitch indoors though

[@TM450FI]

Well i Guess you would want multiple of them outsider anyways

[@chthulu27]

@@ezrabraman6437 , I suspect that is very true.

[@chthulu27]

@@TM450FI , that's fair. And maybe you can tweak the mixture to get a higher yield.

[@dannyguitardrums]

@@chthulu27 what ingredient would achive more of a smoke for cover??

[@mvtorigian4364]

There's cornstarch in powdered sugar. I don't know what that does for the chemistry or resulting heat but have you experimented with super fine sugar. It's a product I didn't learn of until professional work with confections

[@Thecarcissist12]

Bold of you to assume most guys making home made smoke grenades are going to have a girl

[@InventionIncarnate]

BAHAHAHA!!!

[@AConservativeView]

Dude your honestly hilarious! Ive laughed so many times watching you videos!

[@guloguloguy]

.....WOW!!!!!!!! THAT GAS CAN, (AT ABOUT 28:20+...), ...SHOWS THE LEVEL OF.... "LIVING DANGEROUSLY"!!!...

[@wienerwagon1126]

Hey Thank you bro..for sharing your "Knowledge is Power..."

[@rikflare7970]

Finally I can make a smoke grenade like Mcgyver would , child hood dream achievement unlocked lol👍 my kids are gonna love this.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Haha YES! Man I loved that show MacGyver. Check out the ignition system video I’m uploading in a couple hours. It’s a significantly easier and waterproof design

[@sonicsphincter6]

Fun fact that I'm not sure has been mentioned: liquefaction using vibration is also used in concrete pouring to aid in flow and to help clear the chute so it can be moved.

[@calvinquallss4905]

Excellent video. Thank you very much for putting out this creative work. I look forward to more videos like this

[@InventionIncarnate]

Thank you for your comment. Subscribe (if you haven’t already) for more fun!

[@ChainsawFPV]

Serious question, would a model rocket electric fuse ignite the mixture instead of a pull ring? The reason I ask, I fly RC planes, Electric ones, not gas. So I can not do a "smoke show" ( done by injecting oil into the hot exhaust of the engine). There are not a lot of options for smoke for a electric plane. This would solve that problem. This material can be put into a different container, (long skinny tube would work great) that would be ziptied to plane. But would be better to have a electric ignition source so could ignite when flying.

[@andrewh1600]

Cool idea, great video, have you considered a cake piping tool to inject your composition into the container? Thank you for sharing!

[@Rifleman1964]

Im thinking standard old DOT break fluid instead of the oil. Makes a ton of smoke on tires at the drag strip

[@Richarddragon22]

It may be easier to put the final bit of plater in if you treat it cake icing and pipe it in with a sandwich bag with the corner cut to ease it in the top. less mess and faster.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Amen to that! You are absolutely right

[@DCIV333]

Reloading vibration tumbler for case cleaning would work if you roll across top lid

[@InventionIncarnate]

You talking like harbor freight vibratory tumbler?

[@mattcampbell4777]

I love when someone says "Military Grade"....the Military always takes the lowest bidder so Military grade actually means "Junk".

[@L0wSkiller]

Clicked on this video purely because i ruined one of my grandparents pans with this and wanted to see if it was made out of potassium nitrate (more or less to make sure my long term memory works lol), but I'm really excited to see the mineral oil addition! It wasn't in the recipe i found so it wasnt quite as pronounced, so this is cool to see and good to know for the future! Haven't watched the video through yet, but i remember having it fill a toilet paper roll, and making a pull-pin with strikers and matches 😂 😂 those were the days man...

[@chrissapp9243]

Wonder what would happen if you added capsacin or cayenne to the oil first...🤔

[@InventionIncarnate]

You’d get a spicy meatball

[@marcisaacs9407]

I wonder if it would burn eyes or throat or lungs mmmmmmmm

[@SALTYCOMBATDIVER-ExInstructor]

Skylighter sells paper tubes/rolls that insulate the reaction enough you could hold a proper mix during the entire burn. And you can use their tools (from Skylighter) to make both end caps as well as 'nozzles' with things like kitty litter or a similar material.

[@larrymcgarage2152]

Have you thought about adding color to the smoke?

[@InventionIncarnate]

You bet! I was going to make that as a different video. These screening smoke grenades use potassium nitrate as an oxidizer which burns too hot for solvent dyes. They decompose and the smoke 💨 is dull and ugly. Potassium Chlorate is the preferred oxidizer for colored smokes because it burns much cooler and disperses vibrant color especially when the reaction is further cooled via bicarbonates. Military colored smokes use potassium chlorate, sugar, magnesium bicarbonate, sodium bicarbonate, and solvent dyes and some colors have a solvent dye decomposition ratio of as low as 3% If I just added that dye to this composition, nearly all of it would decompose on its way out of the canister.

[@ianlarson517]

What is the shelf life on one of these? If stored at room temp will these ingredients expire quickly? I would like to add a few to a bug out bag.

[@robertbanks8870]

I have used wax instead of oil. It works very good.. just add a bit of water to your sugar and potassium, gently heat on hotplate with wax and mixing until dough like. Press in container. Should harden as it cools.

[@chuckbailey6835]

Is that similar to how they make c4

[@TM450FI]

​@@chuckbailey6835 yeah, i think you Need to add sulphur or something like that

[@Pogo-A-Gogo]

Might I suggest that an electric sander without the Velcro sanding pad would be a great vibrator replacement.

[@ErrorOptik]

How does the fuse hold up to being tossed on hard surfaces? Also, is it safe to have that burning off next to your gas can? 😅

[@honeybadger660]

How did you solve the problem of the oil soaking into your fuse/ignition source?

[@CharlesVanNoland]

Seems like it would be more convenient to just have a dowel or something in there, an arbor, to maintain a channel in the center for the ignitor which you can then just remove the dowel and screw in after the plaster is set in the headspace.

[@chrisripley154]

That's how we used to make homemade rocket engines back in the day

[@InventionIncarnate]

Just received a bunch of delrin rods, you are correct

[@shovelchop81bikeralex52]

LOL! I use beard trimmers or hair clippers as a source of vibration when casting moulds to get rid of air bubbles. I can see why the rubber on a vibrator would be preferable on hard surfaces (trying not to smirk..) but my moulds are silicone etc.. great idea!

[@dragonhealer7588]

So sad that ATF just put consumer use or possession of smoke or flash on the forbidden list. Freedom is getting harder to find these days in the land of the free😕

[@InventionIncarnate]

I talk about that letter here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n16mXoKKpd-oeck&si=EhMHWRGCFUD36gH8 the atf lists specific products in Table 1. Watch that link and tell me if I’m misinterpreting something. Also, in that same video description I link the letter. Can you check that out, and tell me your interpretation?

[@jtcustomknives]

Thy listed the ignition sources as controlled not the device them selves. But a bug manufacture of these that sell to airsoft and paint ball told them to go get F and is still selling them.

[@therealmichaelnelson]

And the funny thing is they probably don't even know why to use smoke

[@vwmuscle]

They don’t want their own tactics used against them when they’re overstepping as usual

[@majinwookie]

There is no freedom

[@faustteufel9727]

At 20:03 you could use a piping bag to fill with plaster of Paris for the head space you mentioned. It's easier and less messy than using a spoon.

[@InventionIncarnate]

You are absolutely right

[@nooneofconsequence3847]

Or a regular plastic bag with a corner cut off

[@aivarasdarulis]

My girlfriend would be pissed off if I use her magic wand for chemistry stuff. It is bad enough I screwed up numerous coffee grinders.

[@ripcurlreadiness8777]

You should check out the ones I made and how thick the smoke was especially with how small the container was. To make it thick smoke I added Parafin wax to the sugar & stump remover mix. Try it. I think you will be impressed. It also slows the burn. Maybe try adding some mineral oil to my wax mixture…. It might be even better. I also have one I haven’t tested yet that I added chilli pepper to in order to see if I could add a mace / CS gas type irritant to the smoke so if your enemy tries to advance through your smoke barrier it will make their eyes water and irritate their lungs like mace so they can’t see or breath well wich would take them out of the fight ?? Using the wax will slow the rate of burn so you get a longer thicker smoke.

[@kylefraga5550]

Love the gas can by the test at the end

[@InventionIncarnate]

Yeah, I noticed that too and meant to note in video. Terrible awareness on my part

[@kylefraga5550]

@@InventionIncarnate hey have you checked out the reloadable spoon style canisters from pace defense? I picked some up and I like them.

[@kenmccabe6701]

I saw those, I wish they weren't so expensive. Do they work well? ​@kylefraga5550

[@kylefraga5550]

@@kenmccabe6701 they do, I use the Paraffin mix recipe for them, works well. They use federal spp, to set off 3 gr of smokeless powder, which ignites the fuse. The guy Scott is cool.

[@E85_STI]

I like this but I make legendary smoke mix but with wax and it makes a lot of smoke like this but I’m curious about this mineral oil as I have an automotive smoke machine and it uses baby oil or mineral oil to make smoke. I do use a different formula than tech does but I do make his color smoke with excellent results. It’s on my channel but I do make a lot of whistle and black powder rockets.

[@bluewinterwolf]

You can also add food colouring to your mixture to get different colours if you wanna use Smoke Grenade for SOS signals/Search & Rescue Landing Signals if you get into trouble while hiking or in remote areas and can let emergency services know what colour your smoke is so they know its you and not someone else playing around if your in an Airsoft/Paintball field. For example, if a few of you have white smoke grenades and each of you carry a red one then people will know that the red one means your in trouble/injured.

[@printingwithpeek4897]

Bullshit. This myth has been busted time and time again food coloring evaporates because it's water based. You saw an early 2000s video and repeated the misinformation

[@nobodynoone2500]

How flamable is this mineral oil vapor?

[@660woodworkingandreno8]

You know the feds are writing down all our names just for watching this 😂😂😂😂

[@stevewheatley243]

No doubt about it.

[@LostCloudx4]

Good, they should be SCARED

[@LostCloudx4]

@12A4-30-TranHungThanh lol, in Australia you go to jail for having a picture of a Swastika let alone chemicals and experiments

[@LostCloudx4]

@12A4-30-TranHungThanh I used to, I left 4 years ago. BEST THING every lol & never going back

[@MikeNewman-ss3kq]

Amazing info. To have a bit of an irritant effect, would adding a little capsaicin or something have a negative affect on stability or performance?

[@InventionIncarnate]

if it were in oil form and that mass were deducted from the mineral oil portion it would still work, however, idk if the heat of the reaction (particularly high with potassium nitrate oxidizer) would denature the capsaicin. if a powdered form of capsaicin were dispersed with a potassium chlorate-based dispersal mix it would certainly work. I'm shooting a video now about a dispersal mix for permethrin (aka a massive bug-killing smoke grenade) so you should sub for that if you haven't yet

[@5thsurvivor350]

Would adding squeezed jalapeño oil to the composition create a tear gas effect ?

[@stephencaparelli7733]

one of the first rules of fireworks DO NOT GRIND OXIDIZER AND FUEL IN THE SAME GRINDER!

[@InventionIncarnate]

Yeah, agreed. Where in the video do I do that? I only grind up the Potassium Nitrate alone

[@jaybee1570]

Awesome project! Have you experimented with coloring the smoke?

[@dwmaddawgs]

Confidence can get you in big trouble. I've seen smoke grenades go frag in a split second, and those were military ones. Be careful 🎉

[@jdgower1]

What if you drilled the baffle holes in the lid before putting it on the can and while the lid is still off, you put the igniter through the center hole of the lid, do all the things with the cotton strip and CA glue, then screw the lid on before you pout the 'head space' plaster mix? Pour the plaster (or better yet, push it through with a plastic bag with one corner cut out like folks do when decorating cakes with icing) through the baffle holes a little at a time at each hole while shaking the can to keep it leveled out. From this point, you could either let the plaster set and drill through it toward the center, or take some some kind of dowel (coated with the same mineral oil as a lubricant for later extraction) and push them through the still wet plaster to the igniter core, and extract them when the plaster firms up a bit - leaving a clean hole with out the mess a drill bit leaves.

[@lokeshtak3795]

Brother have you ever tried to use castor oil instead of mineral oil and how do you think it will work

[@InventionIncarnate]

No I have not, that’s a great question though. For the last year I’ve researched these formulas and device design. When I look back at this video it’s laughable, in comparison to where I’m at now. Check out my channel page for dozens of better videos that aren’t being promoted by yt

[@lokeshtak3795]

@@InventionIncarnate In my opinion your channel is the best on youtube . It is just sad that KZbin does not even notify me when you upload new videos even though I am subscribed and have the bell notification on.

[@InventionIncarnate]

@@lokeshtak3795 thank you, and the censorship is debilitating. I woke up this morning ready to give up. KZbin/google uses SO MANY techniques to suppress channels (or gatekeep info) that aren’t ideologically aligned with their whatever. I’ve experienced so much of this bullsh_t that I’ve accumulated a pile of irrefutable proof. Irrefutable proof that does me absolutely no good. YT Creator support gaslights me and switches me from chat to email so they can just send me a cut and pasted template response that they must send out by the thousands to other creators dealing with the same issue. Gaslighting is a science to them. If finally they do get busted and have no way to deny it, the just say it’s a “technical issue” and it can’t go any further because no one understands the ai/algo at that high of a level who doesn’t work for them. I digress.

[@molonlabe5090]

Dude this is waaay more effective than most potassium nitrate-based smoke devises on YT.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Absolutely agree. But you’ve got to see this one! TPA Smoke Grenades, Blows Commercial Out of the Water! kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ3aomBmZtOajLs

[@molonlabe5090]

@@InventionIncarnate Ordinance Labs also has a fairly good recipe. Been a minute since I watched that one, they go over the recipe and making smoke candy and everything

[@babygorilla4233]

Aah, interesting it is in the vein of a potasium nitrate sugar smoke device. Same same but different we've got a helluva refinememt by adding mineral oil and getting the ratios just right. If im not mistaken the a ball mills really quite a simple machine to 3D print.

[@NicholasQuintero-ti1mi]

Use a rubber grommet to hold the fuse in place at the opening to the screw top. Also, why not use a longer match or several matches together and drill out ports in the bottom like a Def-tec grenade?

[@frozennorth6527]

Maybe put a wax paper barrier between the baffles to help weather proof it and should pop when there is enough pressure. Have you tried adding any dyes?

[@milesvalerius8423]

15:08 Hi. I’m a little confused here. I’m trying to do this myself, but I’d obviously prefer not to lose an eye or something. I noticed that you ground the potassium nitrate into a fine powder, and I was wondering if you need a specific particle size to keep it from exploding? Aside from that question, I’m making sure to follow your directions as closely as possible.

[@InventionIncarnate]

Not specifically, as long as the potassium nitrate is not clumpy. The objective is to increase surface area and allow it to mix with the sugar as intimately as is reasonable.

[@milesvalerius8423]

@@InventionIncarnate I see. Thank you!

[@stalker6617]

Use silicone instead of sugar to make it waterproof and shelfstable, also increases burn rate

[@InventionIncarnate]

Get outta here! Like caulking gun silicone? Type 1 or type 2, hopefully you don’t mean silica.

[@stalker6617]

@@InventionIncarnate caulking gun silicone, not sure what type is the best but I saw it used in diy rockets where it replaces the sugar.

[@GenX-Grampa]

When things go sideways, I want you on my team!!

[@InventionIncarnate]

Haha YES 👍

[@luizfelipefracassochavesba5921]

Great video, I'll have to ask. The plaster on top is for mechanical integrity? And, have you tried using plastic straws on the top plaster while it's still wet to prevent the drilling? Also, you can pre-drilm the top cover, without the ignition in the way.

[@InventionIncarnate]

the plaster is to provide an additional baffle, the more circuitous (I hope that’s a word) the path out, the less sparks fly

[@scienceMicroguy77]

That is a great reaction and if you can speed it up about 400% so that you can eject all of that volume of smoke in 1/4 of the time then you will have something that burns for about 30 seconds and that will be approaching a military smoke grenade but the reaction has to speed up so the fog is more dense because the military smoke grenade can pump out so much smoke you even with a pretty good wind you cannot see through it.

[@krisgibbon2199]

The military uses a phosphorus compound for their smoke grenades. The resulting smoke produces phosphoric acid on contact with water, so it can be pretty irritating to the eyes and lungs. Using the materials he had here, he needs to be careful with increasing the burn rate. Get it going too hot, and you may accidentally start some fires.

[@BertRowe-b3l]

The reason lactose:chlorate is used in colored dye type smoke devices is because lactose is a LOW FLAME TEMPERATURE FUEL, those dyes need a LOW TEMPERATURE of combustion to vaporize without pyrolyzing them (breaking the chemicals down by excessive heat). They even add carbonates such as baking soda to lower the flame temperature even more. You are boiling some fog oil, mineral oil is a lot more durable vs. beeaking down from heat than those complex organic dye molecules.

[@HILLHOUND.]

So i made the mashed potatoes and put them in the bean can but where do i put the beans and secondly does the gravy go in the same can or

[@thebattlefieldproject6013]

So theoretically. This smoke is simply particles suspended in air, the heat generated is quickly dispersed shortly after the smoke is generated. My question is this, what is the potential of seeing through this with a thermal imager? Would this cloud the image up or could an imager be able to get past the particulates? IMO the particles don't seem or act very endothermic else the leaf litter would be charred or ignite so there is the possibility of popping these in a space and still viewing through it with a thermal imager.

[@mimi7a24]

Any option to include chilly to desperce crowd quickly

[@AllTheOthersWereTakn]

So, hypothetically, what would happen if someone added capsaicin oil to this mixture?

[@imnottheonlyone9171]

Either use a frosting bag for the top layer of PoP or even put a sandwich bag in a cup fill it then make a small cut in 1 corner dies the same thing and should make application easier in the can

[@isaacrather8452]

Just curious, how well would something like this store for? Is it shelf stable? And if so how long can it be stored for?

[@InventionIncarnate]

I’m dropping a video soon on TPA smokes, shelf stable for 25 years…these kinda suck to store because the mineral oil permeates anything with a seam

[@Codename-B]

Does the igniter starts a self sustaining reaction or it has to provide heat throughout the entire consumption of the mix?

[@InventionIncarnate]

Self sustaining